The Secret of the Golden Flower, by Wang Chongyang (full audio)

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  • @ArtByHazel
    @ArtByHazel 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Thank you for making it available on audiobook version. The West needs to embrace the Eastern wisdom. Blessings.

  • @aleksabu2
    @aleksabu2 6 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    Thank you for your work, much apprecieted. I would have maybe never read this without you making an audiobook of it.

    • @thinkneothink3055
      @thinkneothink3055  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks Aleksa!

    • @TheSopheom
      @TheSopheom 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I bought the book but my eyes are too tired to read, thank you so much for this! Hailing from the future, 2020

    • @mattjones6323
      @mattjones6323 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Did he say how to breathe? How to guide the light during breath?

  • @tingwilliam3747
    @tingwilliam3747 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    You guys are so lucky to know this real Chinese treasure.

  • @invisioner8472
    @invisioner8472 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    What a gift to humanity this knowledge is 🙏🏻

  • @GreatTaoSage
    @GreatTaoSage 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    i never knew about this but i found my own and basically created the same meditation and reached enlightenment.. later i found out about the secret of the Golden flower, which speaks of the same pattern and realisation. pretty incredible.
    who ever wrote this, understands and saw what i saw.

    • @tahliamaree
      @tahliamaree 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's amazing

    • @GreatTaoSage
      @GreatTaoSage 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@tahliamaree ya i started the journey when i was about 21.. 35 i found it.. same age as buddha did. Its a hard jouney many are awakened but nirvana aint easy strength faith and pure hard work dedication pain and tears.
      This book is as close as youll get, everything else is missing parts, for example all religions contain different information, and incomplete, this book cuts out all and combines the same religions i used mainly buddhism taoism and Christ.. hinduism for example contains alot of what new age people use which can lead ppl astray and even more egotistical. I stayed away from hinduism and used the taoism buddhism values of chi and still meditation.. jesus is also very important as he is the light.
      🙏🙏

  • @gregoryford3531
    @gregoryford3531 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Umm, humbly speaking, for dedicated seekers and practitioners of this masterwork of true genius, without a multi lingual Master teacher this work -(however tantalizing!) Will remain a hidden treasure. Umm, I only mention this because this teaching is a symphony of true communication bequeathed to us by the cognoscenti. For which I am truly inspired and grateful.

    • @d1ssolv3r
      @d1ssolv3r ปีที่แล้ว

      That is hard to find

  • @BrigittePatrice4750
    @BrigittePatrice4750 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I can not stop listening to this reading, thank you so much

  • @alankuntz6494
    @alankuntz6494 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Think Neo Think is right. I 've had this copy of 'The Secret of The Golden Flower" around for decades translated by Richard Wilhelm with Jungs Commentary with a preface by this guy named Cary F Bayne's.Jung and Bayne's.Apparently they both like giving this some psychological symbolic meaning and significance but neither of them have actually done the practice for 100 days.Thomas Cleary being the great translator that he was, i don't think he ever practiced this either . It's Zen Master Hakuin's Golden duck egg meditation for people with Zen Sickness that led me here.You know how one thing leads to another online ,right? It's quite fascinating too .There's even a zen roshi who leads you through the golde duck meditation which really blew my mind because you know as soto zen people say, there's no aim, no goal we just practice zazen Shikantaza.If there is an aim i think it would be refered to as the Dharmakaya Body or dharmakaya and not some subtle body to slip off into as Gurdjieff taught his followers on that need to attain that Kesjdan body which all seems to be something driven by an Ego based body, a raving need and attachment to some tangible entity and identification.Saying all that it would make sense if one is ill in some way to gather up ones jhanas and chi to help nourish the physical body from sickly body and mind to something as healthy as possible for as long as you are still alive in the body.I'm just speaking out loud, rambling here and probably causing my self some zen sickness.haha The literature of the great Buddhist sages do suggest that all bodies are impermanent.What goes up comes down whether it's form bodies in the human realm or deva and brahmin realms.This stuff is all relative though.As for promises of eternal life? When you get to the formless mindless realms though, theres no body there. Anyway's thanks for sharing this.I'm just assimilating, trying to digest it all.Happy microcosmic orbit and golden duck egg meditations to ya.

  • @OBE_PLZ
    @OBE_PLZ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I listened to the Gospel of Thomas recently and it spoke about creating "another body outside your body", which really blew my mind because I heard of it in this book first. Then I found it mentioned in other Taoist books as the Yinshen and Yangshen spirit body. So very interesting!

    • @letang6772
      @letang6772 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      1 Corinthians 15:44

  • @ganeshchandran3952
    @ganeshchandran3952 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Very grateful for sharing this..

  • @faunwillow
    @faunwillow 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Such excellent information for mankind.

  • @tokyotrap2579
    @tokyotrap2579 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    So many gems!

  • @markgamble7699
    @markgamble7699 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    This is what Revelation is in those bibles but many do not understand this... Revelation is about finding your right mind before one dies...

  • @VincentvanFlow
    @VincentvanFlow 6 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Holy hell.
    This has so many things I've seen in dreams in it.
    I must get a hard copy of this book ._.

  • @scouter6926
    @scouter6926 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Having had good results from this practice I can recommend Thomas Cleary's translation with confidence.
    With all due respect to Carl Jung his introduction to the first translation by Wilhelm's makes clear the essentail understanding/experience to open the meaning of the SGF i.e., Awareness of Awareness was unknown to him. This is not the case with Dr Cleary and why his translations is so appreciated.
    Speaking of appreciation many thanks for your audio reading. As one commentar says they would have never read the SGF but for having heard your audio. 🖖

    • @ianmccartney990
      @ianmccartney990 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Another option by Sell: thesecretofthegoldenflower.com/index.html
      If found Cleary is a bit cold compared to Wilhelm and Sell, also he is not kind and compassionate in his attack on Jung, so Cleary seems to lack 'actual proof' of the benefits. Read Jung's commentary carefully, in one place he describes the visions too, independently of Wilhelm's comments and translation. Jung did well for the 1920's. Like most modern practitioners on the internet, he had his own public image, practice, and security to look after.

    • @alankuntz6494
      @alankuntz6494 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes I'm just reading it now. Cleary really beats Jung and Wilhelm up really bad here.haha

    • @mattjones6323
      @mattjones6323 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I didn't catch where this guy said how I am supposed to direct the light during breathing meditation? Anyone help?

    • @scouter6926
      @scouter6926 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ianmccartney990 The SGF is not information, entertainment mood creator. It is precise guide for those that are willing to face the two principal dargons that make it near impossible to practice. Between them they take wanna be mediators and easily drive them off the mediation mat. The Dragon's name? BOREDOM and DISTRACTIONS and they seldom lose the fight. Those few who do overcome the dragons immediately understand the neither William or Carl had any experience of mindfulness so it was impossible for them to understand awareness which first must be experienced before Awareness of Awareness (SGF) can be practiced.
      For those interested in better understanding the SFG check out the Tibetan equivalent instructions called "Mahamudra"

  • @pietervink961
    @pietervink961 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Wow - great! thanks so much for this!

  • @yunniehe7185
    @yunniehe7185 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Respect your work. Thanks.

  • @ohthatsfrog806
    @ohthatsfrog806 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice to come back n hear

  • @grandpamy1450
    @grandpamy1450 ปีที่แล้ว

    Without decyfering the codes,,,whatever the meditation we do
    That will nothing but self hypnotism ,,..
    We should concentrate on immortal, feet of our sathGURU,,,

  • @Streamwalker1000
    @Streamwalker1000 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thinking of the Breath as light and circulating it upward through the spine to the inner chamber in the middle of the head. Inhale up, exhale down. exhale down the inside front of the body, passes through the heart and back down to the Tanden (between the navel and pubis) and then back to the base of the spine and start over. This is similar to Kriya Yoga. This has to be done without strain.

    • @mattjones6323
      @mattjones6323 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      So up through middle down through the front and repeat?

    • @Streamwalker1000
      @Streamwalker1000 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@mattjones6323 Yes, middle of SPINE, to middle of head, then down the inside front of the body back to base of spine (kind of curves backward to the spine) ....that's the Golden Flower method. inhale up, exhale down. If you were doing Kriya Yoga, you would stay in the spine, cold current up, warm current down all in the Spine. I don't know which technique came first, but there are about a dozen of these spinal breathing methods that came out of both India and farther east.

    • @mattjones6323
      @mattjones6323 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Streamwalker1000 and can you have eyes closed when looking at tip of nose? And then you focus on 3rd eye area with your mind and you try to keep your heart and breath quiet? Is that the basics?

    • @Streamwalker1000
      @Streamwalker1000 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@mattjones6323 The idea is that when you do this breath circuit several times, it quiets the mind and breath. Your eyes should be closed during the breath circulation. After about 12 circuits, the mind should settle into the third eye, which is actually in the center of your brain, even though they will say it is in your forehead between the eyebrows. If a line in drawn from the middle of the brows back through the head and out the back, and another is drawn from just in front of the ear going across the head, where these lines meet is where the third eye is located. After running the circuit, we sit quietly, while letting the mind stay at the spot just described. Focusing the mind on the tip of the nose is only said because in Zen, the eyes are half open during meditation. With the Golden Flower or Kriya, the eyes are closed. After a time, when you get settled in the third eye and your mind has stopped, you will notice that you can't find your breath.....this is a very good sign. Also, the body may feel like it's made out of rock or steel and is unmovable, like a mountain. This occurs when Manolya, or stoppage of all though occurs and you are in a state of pure awareness within the now still body-mind. Consciousness is not thought, Consciousness is pure Awareness. Once you are in this state, your Consciousness will begin to travel within, and you will be in Samadhi....Mystic trance. This will take some time and effort to occur, but if the effort is persistent, steady and relaxed, it will occur. You are not your body, or your thoughts, not even your history and personal story. You are the Atman, and the Atman is directly from God. God is infinite Consciousness, and you are part of that infinity. Before each session ask God and the Masters to be with you and help you and the help will arrive. practice twice a day, more if you can manage it. Find Meditation retreats that have ads online and go to one at least one a year. Work toward living only as the Atman, as an enlightened, awake Being. An emissary of God.

    • @goldenpeanuts9
      @goldenpeanuts9 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      beautiful, gratitude - grace

  • @Ballinwithqi
    @Ballinwithqi 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thanks for that, well presented

  • @BrigittePatrice4750
    @BrigittePatrice4750 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you so much for this audio, I've read this book many many times and have dreamed of having the time to put it to practice.

    • @N1CKSKILL
      @N1CKSKILL 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Brigett Price who has the time?

    • @thevapingauditfrog2387
      @thevapingauditfrog2387 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@N1CKSKILL Everyone. It's just a breathing pattern consolidated with the cultivation of the beatitudes. Love up the six healing sounds, dragon and tiger breath, and the microcosmic orbit/ circulation of the light. Mantak Chia teaches this.

    • @ianmccartney990
      @ianmccartney990 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Wilhelm omitted Chapters 9 to 13. The last Chapter sums up with the following: "You should each practice diligently; what a pity if you waste your time. If you do not practice for a day, then you are a ghost for a day; if you do practice for a single breath, then you are a realized immortal for a breath. More effort ! More effort !"

  • @dadaoascension5909
    @dadaoascension5909 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you 🙏🙏

  • @shicheng8599
    @shicheng8599 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    光易动而难定,回之既久,此光凝结,即是自然法身,而凝神于九霄之上矣。

    • @scouter6926
      @scouter6926 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Shi Cheng can you translate your comment into English? I am going to Taipei once the C 19 virus wanes to visit the only Chinese practioners of the SGF I have been able to make contact with.
      Having asked literally hundreds of both Manderan and Cantonese speaking Chinese over the years it appears this ancient but eternal jewel from China is far better known in the West than in China and Taiwan.

    • @shicheng8599
      @shicheng8599 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Scouter Yes, of course I can do the translations and explanations. This article is well known only among Taoism practitioners in China. Nobody know who the author was. The author purported to be Lu Dongbing. Compared with other Taoism mediation articles, this one is straightforward, not encrypted into special terms, also easy to translate and explain.

    • @shicheng8599
      @shicheng8599 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Scouter It would be much better for you to visit some Taiwan or China mainland practitioners than merely read the translated version. Just remember, the golden flower is not that easy to be seen at the beginning, it may take several years for your lights to congeal into the golden flower, and the golden flower is just the beginning for the next stage.

    • @shicheng8599
      @shicheng8599 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Scouter I translate it as: The light is easy to move, but difficult to fix. If you turn back your light long enough, then it congeals into the Dharmakaya Body of the true state of yourself. This congealed spirit is beyond the life form in our world.

    • @hase5015
      @hase5015 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      怎么感觉现在年轻人修道的怎么都这么多.......是各种道教漫画电影文化的影响么

  • @jasoncrump1886
    @jasoncrump1886 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wh0leness brother. Appreciate you.

  • @nickpryakhin779
    @nickpryakhin779 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    🙏Thank you.

  • @xd-gm1mq
    @xd-gm1mq 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    you sound like you ran here to read this to us and the whole time trying to catch your breath

  • @jessewarner7962
    @jessewarner7962 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you!

  • @gaanbuzz24
    @gaanbuzz24 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank u Thank u Thank u

  • @andrewsnowmon2586
    @andrewsnowmon2586 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Grateful 🤗😁 I am.

  • @alexmacman5044
    @alexmacman5044 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This Chinese Taoist book was not Wang Chongyang’s work. It was written by Lv Dongbing who lived 200 years earlier than Wang Chongyang

  • @db8799
    @db8799 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    When usefulness is devoted to uselessness
    The truth of the universe is grasped...
    A Watts

  • @cherispear3532
    @cherispear3532 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Is there anything else like this out there wow this was amazing?

    • @RhythmJunkie
      @RhythmJunkie 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Entheogen’s, Psychedelics, Sensory Deprivation (fasting in the dark for three or more days) .... there are many methods but I’ve found LSD the most efficient ✨

    • @LaoZi2023
      @LaoZi2023 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@RhythmJunkie , I would have to add an addendum to your post. And that is what you’re saying regards to simply an awareness of perception, what the Golden Flower points to is a Great Awakening, one that is not temporary. Your examples offer only temporary experiences. The Golden Flower meditation works better if you fill your lower dantien first with qi. This creates an embryo of consciousness that can move outside the body at will eventually. These practices eventually can make a person an immortal, or so they say. If this is possible, to become like a Buddha, we break the cycle of karma. And even choose to take on a future body at will at death. It’s very hard practice, if we don’t have a qualified teacher, and takes a lot of diligent work.

    • @mattjones6323
      @mattjones6323 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I didn't catch how I am supposed to direct the light while I'm breathing? Anyone help?

  • @melaniesandsslater41
    @melaniesandsslater41 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Dear, It is lead - as in the heavy metal - in the water region. Not lead -as in guiding. The is the point of that part of the technique.
    Thanks.

    • @ianmccartney990
      @ianmccartney990 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      yes I so much wanted to project that correction during the reading . Its "lead" (the metal - Pb), not "lead" (as a disciple of of a sage or worthy). Lead is the heavy metal that western medieval alchemists strived to turn into gold. 金花的秘密 is also a Chinese alchemical text.

  • @gregoryford3531
    @gregoryford3531 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Umm, correct me if I'm wrong (as I often am) but I believe the correct expression should read 'The 'lead" (as in the metal*) of the water region has but a single taste'. But, what do I know?

  • @SeiroosFardipour-wf4bi
    @SeiroosFardipour-wf4bi 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    They call it yellow castle,you remember my dream the golden castle,strange accident

  • @parkerjwill
    @parkerjwill 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    33:00

  • @avatar1867
    @avatar1867 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Everyone here trying to decipher. Me here lookin for tips on rejuvination. The red body.

  • @melaniesandsslater41
    @melaniesandsslater41 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I am very glad this script is recorded but you should try the meditation for a while and re-record. You did not understand the text in general. "Lead" in the water region (for one tiny instance) refers to the heavy metal lead, which is a certain gathering of energy in the 2nd chakra or 1st tantien, needed to power the orbit. And get a copy without the repeated sentences. In fact, Thomas Cleary did a much more accurate translation but I still think this largely inaccurate Willhelm translation speaks to the western mind very well.

    • @LaoZi2023
      @LaoZi2023 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      And this translation does offer enough to realize kundalini awakening.

  • @nioalexander9000
    @nioalexander9000 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When you want the Secret of The Golden Flower yelled at you

  • @55tv40
    @55tv40 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for sharing, but wrong author was titled.

  • @danhartman6829
    @danhartman6829 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    19:55

  • @_zproxy
    @_zproxy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    the last chapters do sound like 72 virgins awaiting you in the afterlife. makes this text suspect.

  • @botney420
    @botney420 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Love&Light. ALLONE!

  • @222leeloo
    @222leeloo 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    sounds as though the reader is under duress

    • @Shalien333
      @Shalien333 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Or maybe the listener

    • @twelvepetaledlotus1721
      @twelvepetaledlotus1721 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah he's defo reading with a gun to his head.

    • @ianmccartney990
      @ianmccartney990 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      However, its symbolic language, words cant really capture, it comes by doing and getting actual proof. Its read from Yang, reading from yin would be a 3-4 hour job. Even if the reader has Mandarin skill, those archaic Wilhelm-Baines transliterations, (eg. Gold 金 appears as "chin" not the modern "Jīn", and chin has no clear meaning to a modern Chinese reader-speaker.

    • @222leeloo
      @222leeloo 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Shalien333 ...maybe all of us

  • @SA2004YG
    @SA2004YG 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great

  • @starkops
    @starkops 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks

  • @MrJamesdryable
    @MrJamesdryable 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    27:50

  • @michaeltrinh4394
    @michaeltrinh4394 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's pretty good, but not quite on the level of his Pre-Heaven skill, or his Art of 9 Negations. 😏
    Thanks again!

    • @longhuynh7887
      @longhuynh7887 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Cửu âm chân kinh? Where can I view this book from?😁😬🧘‍♂️

  • @EquipteHarry
    @EquipteHarry 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Brown Brenda Moore Steven Hernandez David

  • @fourtwentythree
    @fourtwentythree ปีที่แล้ว

    *gasp*

  • @henryreality6794
    @henryreality6794 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    For the sake of understanding my soul. From a child like state of heartfelt gratitude . I say thanks 🙏 namaste it works but not for this fox.

  • @MosesRabuka
    @MosesRabuka 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Alan Watts brought me here

  • @eutrivirtue
    @eutrivirtue 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why you breathing so heavy

  • @Proct3rPlease
    @Proct3rPlease 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    27:27

  • @etone8662
    @etone8662 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    💚💙💜

  • @randallisham6368
    @randallisham6368 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    3

  • @peaceofserenity1387
    @peaceofserenity1387 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have been exposed

  • @user-wo5bp2oi5c
    @user-wo5bp2oi5c 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Read Cleary’s trans instead.

    • @a-rod1527
      @a-rod1527 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      why?

    • @user-wo5bp2oi5c
      @user-wo5bp2oi5c 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Florida FM It’s more accurate. Translations are key and you can see how big a difference they make when you compare them.

    • @a-rod1527
      @a-rod1527 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@user-wo5bp2oi5c gotcha

    • @alankuntz6494
      @alankuntz6494 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      do the practice perhaps.Cleary was a translator not a practioner.

  • @UncleBiku
    @UncleBiku 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    He butchered the chinese pronouns so hard xD

  • @antiprismatic
    @antiprismatic 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Gosh i hate the psychological interpretation of the text. So much of it is well translated but some stupid trendy terms from 100 years ago just dont capture the imagination at all now.

  • @alvinkoh5556
    @alvinkoh5556 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your Chinese pronunciation is nonsensical!
    It is 太乙金华宗旨,and not tai yee zing woo zoong zi...wtf!
    And 易经 is pronounced as Yee Jing and not i ching.

  • @peacerespect98
    @peacerespect98 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    More than 2000 years old Chinese Taoism by 吕洞宾。Chinese are more civilized and humble than Uncle Sam.

    • @LaoZi2023
      @LaoZi2023 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Leave politics out of this. Because you will become a contradiction