I worked on VOX amps all my life and can add a few bits to this video. Hank Marvin came into the shop where I worked with a faulty VOX amp, when we stripped it down we found that the tone circuits were modified and it turned out that Hank took it to VOX after hearing Fender amps because he wanted more treble and this inspired the "Top Boost" model which uses a tone stack similar to the Fender Bassman funnily enough. The other thing is I believe that when VOX had amps made in America the contract was flawed and the American company started making VOX themselves and changed the circuitry so they were cheaper to make. I worked on an AC30 that I was told was from America and it was hybrid with a transistor preamp and a valve output stage. It actually sounded very good and in fact some of the best guitar amps I have heard were hybrid including Music Man by Leo Fender. One more thing VOX amps had a bias resister and capacitor in the op valve cathodes whereas most other amps had negative bias on the op valve grids
I read that the Gibson GA-77 Vanguard high-gain channel inspired Denny's top boost mod (link above)..? The top-boost is more of a boost than solely a treble booster, similar to how the high-gain channel on the GA-77 boosts the signal, which boosts the treble of course. As for the hybrid Music Man amps: when I saw Eric Clapton in the early 1980's at the LA Forum, he had Albert Lee on guitar too, and let me tell you - Clapton has never played that good before! I think the fact that the Forum wasn't even half full, because Clapton had been out of the light for almost a decade at the time, "Money and Cigarettes" (I love that record) was his latest recording. Having Albert Lee on second guitar, that really helped too, and Lee played brilliantly too - they got each other going, and took it to the stratosphere, so to speak. ANYways, my point is that they were using a combination of Music Man heads, and Fender cabinets. Johnny Winter loved the Music Man amps too - the one with 4 x 10" speakers. Excellent amps indeed....!
@@pharmerdavid1432 Most guitar amps have the Fender tone stack or something similar because it sounds so good, when the tone controls are in the middle position there is still a massive top and bottom boost either side if 400 Hz so the amps sound good "out of the box" so to speak. I've worked on amps since I was 15 and I'm 71 now electronics, music and performing have been my life's work,so I've made a living doing my hobbies is that to be envied or am I just a sad old bastard ?
There was a time in the mid to late 1970s when Vox AC30s were out of fashion and most players wanted a Marshall stack but when some pals and I were starting a band I suggested AC30s would be ideal for the pub gigs we were likely to be playing. We went to a second hand store in the Westgate Road in Newcastle and bought three for £95, £85 and £60 plus a huge 4x12 cab for me as bassist to use. I had to borrow an amp for a while longer until I could afford one. The battered £60 AC30 had been stripped of all its covering and had the wrong knobs on plus one channel not working but it was bought for another guitarist pal of mine as I didn't have the money to get one myself. He used it for about 10 years but it was way too loud for home use and eventually he let me have it back for the £60 paid. Eventually it died due to a duff repairers using a wrong crappy valve socket and I got it properly fixed and restored to the original circuitry by a really good amp tech, John Chambers. Then I got a new cab built by Matamp to the proper 1963 spec. as Matamp confirmed it was a 1963 model. It still sounds wonderful with its original speakers, transformers and Mullard valves and it no longer looks like a post-apocalypse wreck. The JMI AC30 is one of the greatest amps ever made.
Still got my late 1963 one bought in 1976 for £50. I was a huge fan of Rory Gallagher (and Brian May) but managed to persuade my dad to lend me the £50 largely by 'casually' dropping into the conversation the fact that the AC30 was the appliance of choice of the Shadows, an ensemble whose attention to tunefulness, strict adherence to choreographic symmetry and well-pressed stagewear, along with the origins of their key members in the northeast of England, had earned his cautious approbation.
To Mr. Pentium: This is the perks of the job, being a reporter and interviewing the classic stars. It is good to do what one loves. Fascination often comes from the studious and aware.
robert ovens in 1989, someone offered me a genuine 60s AC30 for £20 cash as seen - and it was completely battered with a dirty great coffee stain down the front so I walked away, and I regret it to this day. If I had known what it meant, I would have bought it on the spot. I would have had it restored as the electronics all worked perfectly and sounded amazing - it was only the case and cosmetics that were battered. And it was on sale for £20. I'm gutted. Of course I did eventually find a mint original '65 Grey Bullet, but it cost me £1700 in 2004. I had a guitarist come in the studio once and offered me three grand for it and I said no. Not selling it for any price.
@@RB747domme I sold an AC30 twin (had since 1967) for £10 in 1975 as a student, thinking it was too big to cart around from flat to flat and could easily get another... :-(
@@RB747domme isn't hindsight always 20 20..sorry brother..but I also have similar regrets ...we learned didn't we...cool story ...thanks for sharing .keep playing friend.
I purchased a Vox Essex Bass amp in 1966. It was my second amp & a real upgrade for me at the time. As amazing as it sounds, I was in hot demand simply because I was playing a Vox amp! The Beatles had made the Vox "Super Beatle" amp popular a year or so earlier, but not many American "garage" bands (as they're known today) had a Vox on stage. It seemed to immediately give your band an air of respectability in those early days & I got a ton of gigs just because of my amp, lol.
Sadly, a film about the Vox AC30 and not one mention of the greatest guitarist who ever plugged into one, the late great Rory Gallagher. He used his treble boosted AC30 and occasionally a Fender Bassman right to the very end. I'll never forget seeing him playing live on several occasions.
Cliff W.. I read an interview with Rory where he states on one night he was in the middle of his set & whatever song he was playing when he began to smell something burning. Turns out as he turned around his AC30 was in flames. They managed to get the amp off & put out the flames but the amp was history. Fortunately he had a back up & the show went on. Still one of Rory's favorite amps he was the ultimate pro. I used to see him in the early 70s when he was opening for i believe Deep Purple & he played here many times in Washington DC at this small club called My Mother's Place . Some of the best acts went through that club like Roy Buchanan & Link Wray. That's how Rory was ,on his days off he would find somewhere to play instead of lounging around. Saw him several more times when he was here in the mid 70s & he was always the ultimate showman & one of the greatest players in Rock.
Very cool... So awesome to see Brian May playing the solo. My reaction was the same as the interviewer. Just made me smile... My first amp was a Vox Pathfinder that I bought for $25 in the late 60's. I wish I realized what I had and wouldn't have sold it!
Scott, rest easy if you can.. we are always forgetting the future : I sold my 72 Les Paul Custom in 81, I think. American made, white w/ chrome finishes. a sound that would put birds asleep - or wake 'em with a start! On a beautiful Orange. Gone too. oh great woe!!!
One thing they don't mention is the Vox AC 30s sound better when they running on 230 Volts than they do at 115 Volts. They also had these bizarre three position tone switches that would boost or emphasize different mid-range frequencies. You can hear it on the Piano they put through it on the tune Birthday from The Beatles White Album.
Many years ago, one of my buddies who was a key performer in one of history's all-time greatest Supergroups played me some early recordings of the band done for the BBC's Top of the Pops radio show. They were unbelieveable on many levels, and he had hours of them. One of the most amazing things was the extremely high quality of the recordings, and the unadulterated shimmering crystal clear sound of the band's guitars through early Vox AC30 amps. He made copies on CDs for me, and I believe no one knows to this day (besides him and me) that copies of those recordings still exist.
This is the most underrated comment on rock and roll I’ve read on TH-cam. Would LOVE to know more- fantastic!!! You’re so lucky to have heard them. 👍🏻👍🏻
8:53 The Fender sound is all _clean?_ Maybe at low volumes. Put any guts to 'em at all and they break-up like gravel, especially in the low end. That was why I switched to Music Man amps (112 RD, and 112 RP) back in the '80s. Loud & solid-edged clean like hitting an anvil. I actually couldn't give f***all about Vox amplifiers, but the Continental II (and arguably their wah pedal) practically defined the sound of the '60s.
I’d rather have my Vox AC30s than a music man amp which was over hyped and how many pros use them now. As a pro touring guitarist the AC30 is a masterpiece better than any Marshall, Fender or Facebook marketplace Musicman amp lol
@@deanlunn1969 How many pros (define that term for me) use AC30s? None that I know of. I mainly see them in church worship bands. The Beatles used them, of course, and The Knack used them because of The Beatles, but beyond that I can't think of any big names using Vox amps. But you know why I initially chose Music Man? Because that's what I saw Dire Straits using at the time. And they're no slouches as far as I'm concerned. Buck Dharma used a Music Man 410 to deliver one of the all time great guitar leads on Don't Fear The Reaper. But, to be fair, he also used AC30s on other tunes. It's all a matter of taste, my friend. I found Music Man the best at delivering full, mostly-clean sound at volumes that belied their RMS wattage ratings.
@@BigBri550 Wow really most of the 60 bands I toured with in the 90s used VOX AC30s Rory Gallaghers main amp was a AC30 the shadows used them on there anniversary and Cliff shows then there’s the Searchers, The Honeycombs, The Kinks, Brian May gets his sound through a bank of modded AC30s, Ritchie Blackmore used them for years as did Status Quo and U2s the edge. Not as many pros used or use Musicman amps
@@deanlunn1969 Yeah, Music Man didn't even rival Peavey in sheer numbers lol! But I stand by what I said: Music Man combos were the best amps I ever used for live gigs, and this is coming from a devotee of tube Fender combos.
Host: "It was Rock 'n' Roll that brought us the electric guitar." Charlie Christian, T-Bone Walker, Les Paul, Chet Atkins, Oscar Moore, Muddy Waters and B.B. King: "Are we a joke to you?"
Not only WAS Mick born in a crossfire hurricane (World War II), he and Keith also DIDN´T form the Rolling Stones. Brian Jones and Ian Stewart did, and they joined afterwards. Otherwise, great documentary.
Brian May's tone is one of the sweetest sounds ever created on earth. The live recording they did of Brighton Rock will literally make your ears bleed in pure joy.
I have never seen this program before today...Wow Brilliant. I played lead guitar with Shades of Grey in 1980's I had three VOX AC 30 1 x 1982 Rose Morris made Vox AC 30 and 2x 1960's Jennings made VOX AC 30's (with Blue speakers) a great lovely warm sound. Very good work horses...Sadly sold them all a few years ago now.
First gig I ever played, in a very large school hall in Southport, there was pretty much an empty stage apart from - a 4 piece drum kit, an Orange valve amp + Marshall 4x4 cab and me with a Vox AC30 on full volume! Blasting out 'Sheena is a Punk Rocker' felt like I could conquer the world!
As an aside [although I didn't know it at the time] the valves use in the AC30 where also made in Southport www.effectrode.com/knowledge-base/mullards-empire-of-rust/
@@cpcnw Not exactly. Blackburn was the valve factory. As the author says in his intro "Although the Crossens works didn’t manufacture vacuum tubes, it did produce ferrite pot cores and magnets for loudspeakers..."
Vox amps. Without any doubt are TheMost Versatile sounding device! It truly responds to the way you approach playing it ! Softly, and she will sparkle clear and transparent! Hit her hard and she will bark right back at you like a scorned woman! And this is without Any pedals. Sick an overdrive device in your chain and look out creamy compressed sonic Marvelment! The Vox will sound like any Thing you wish it to! I've owned Marshalls,Fenders,Laney,...and they All have fell short of what these wonderful tone monsters can and will deliver!
absolutely. every other amp is just a repackaged Fender in some way, nothing sounds like Vox. my epiphone casino, into my ernie ball mvp, into my AC15 is the sound I've always heard in my ears
Wonderful doc. Great fun and perhaps has introduced the Vox legacy to new fans. A couple of mild mistakes (The Beatles indeed did use other amps i.e. Fender, but late in their career) hardly dampens the tribute here. And I have owned a few recent Vox products including my current AC15C1 and that came from auditioning several different amps. There is a Vox sound, but even a single model number will have a variety of different sounds based on year of manufacture, manufacturer, components used and design changes. They are all approximates and you find the sound you like best and go with it. It's a tool and the player really makes the difference. But Vox gives you a great platform to launch. Thanks for uploading this video. Nice to see the heritage.
I had a Vox Pathfinder 15R amp. Great amp. Sold to a girl in Sacramento CA. She loves it. I bought a Marshall. Love it. Then bought a few Fender amps. Champ and Super Lead. Was lucky to get them. Then bought a Marshall Valvestate 80. After that it was all over for other amps. sold everything and kept the Marshall Valvestate 80
I've watched this multiple times as I'm a big Vox fan, but I never noticed that at 12:57 the amp Mick and Bill are standing by doesn't appear to have any speakers in it hehe
I have both a Fender and a Marshall, never played a Vox. But I really like that Marshall sound. It sounds great in a bar or an auditorium, and it'll crank way beyond anything you need.
The interviewer's awe-struck look starting at 19:00, and then his turn to the camera man ("are you freakin' getting this??") at 19:04 is THE best thing on You Tube.
0:16 Drovers (from the side) 0:17 Drovers (from the front) The Drovers “Today Magazine” Competition Cavern, Liverpool Third place in a country wide competition . AC30 Mike Hooper Singer Terry Parker Lead Guitar Ron Baker Bass Guitar Ray Maher Rhythm Guitar Chris Gutsell Drums
Great documentary on one of the most iconic amps of all time. From the Beatles and the Stones to Queen and many bands of today, an AC-30 is the real deal!
Bruce Dumes - thank you for posting this Vox video. I NOW have an interest in hearing an AC30 in the States, My nephew has an interest in valve (tube) amps and showed this video to my brother in law and at 0:17 he exclaimed THAT’S MY BAND THAT’S MY BAND!!!!! We were at a family gathering so word spread fast to the family . The two clips of the “Drovers” were fast but fantastic! I recently heard a 1960s story about when the Drovers played down the street from an overflow Stones performance not only did the Drovers get some of the overflow - AND the overflow was really pumped! BRUCE >>> The archivist for this doc is Tiffany Baker and I assume no relation to Ron Baker of the Drovers. Hoping to find a tribute band with an AC30 to hear.
Hi Bob. That's a great story about your brother-in-law! If your nephew has a local guitar shop, he might ask them if they know of a band locally to him that uses an AC30, or they might even have an AC30 in the shop. The modern AC30 amps don't have all the amazingness of the originals, but over the years they have put out some very good hand-wired tube versions that sounds really great. Best of luck and so glad to hear you and your family enjoyed this.
I’ll get word to my nephew. A Queen tribute band is appearing down the street from me - but from their videos they’re not Vox. (With the music we get to see the documentary Bohemian Rhapsody) Great idea I’ll follow through - a guitar shop a stones throw away. I’ll report back.
I play a recently made Vox AC15. The name is owned by Korg now. The high-end amps are very well made in Vietnam. Very simple upgrades like the speaker change to the Blueback, custom valve set will give you that same 1960's sound. The Korg amps are well made from decent wood, weigh a ton! They really have but very faithful to the Dartford made amps! I would not fancy gigging with an AC30 due to the weight. Those early amps are amazing. The Beatles cab being wonderful. The vox wah-wah was a total gem! The AC50 didn't get a mention, but it was a great valve head amp. They forgot to mention key components such as the Mullard tubes use. They were killer tubes. We made the best tubes in the world. They were amazing, plus the speakers being Celestion blue/greenbacks. Both were British made. They could have written in 20 minutes on those two key parts!
The stock greenbacks sound great, a more forward sound. The modern ac15 is a lovely gigging amp, real vox tone at a price and availability that doesn’t make you cringe when you throw it in the back of the transit, half drunk and sweating, on a Friday night. There’s no way you’d put a hand wired JMI from the 60’s through that ordeal 😂
@@nicksalt4346 Yeah, it was the shock Grenbacks, I went for a pair of the 30 watt ones. Gave me more room on the top. I never liked the Bluebacks in the end, I found them less warm, more chimmy
At 12:20, Mick Jagger sings "I was born in a crossfire hurricane..." then the BBC presenter says, "No you weren't Mick. You were born in Dartford." Well, being born in the middle of WW2 in Dartford, Kent with R.A.F. "Hurricane" aircraft flying overhead sure sounds like being born in a "crossfire hurricane" to me. Somebody tell this guy and Terry Doolittle (Whoopi Goldberg's character in the film "Jumpin' Jack Flash") that is what Mick's on about... but it's all right now. In fact it's a gas!!!
Who is "Jack Flash"? His name is Jack Dyer, and he was Keith Richards' gardener. Richards explained to Rolling Stone in 2010: "The lyrics came from a gray dawn at Redlands. Mick and I had been up all night, it was raining outside, and there was the sound of these boots near the window, belonging to my gardener, Jack Dyer. It woke Mick up. He said, 'What's that?' I said, 'Oh, that's Jack. That's jumping Jack.' I started to work around the phrase on the guitar, which was in open tuning, singing the phrase 'Jumping Jack.' Mick said, 'Flash,' and suddenly we had this phrase with a great rhythm and ring to it." reprint kindly songfacts.com
Cool. I noticed that too. We built our amps in the early sixties. Dual parallel push-pull means UNRELIABLE. But you can't beat valves for warm harmonic tones.
Dartford is on the border of London/Kent. The battle of Britain was fought a bit further on down the same railway line, towards Dover. It was probably bombed just like anywhere else in the south east,but nowhere near as much as say,Chatham Dockyard,or the east end of London.
In addition to how great the music was, I always loved the *sound* of the Beatles. And the Shadows as well, when I was turned on to them (I'm a Yank). Appreciate the story of a key part of what made the *guitars* sound so great.
im actually a bigger marshall fan to be honest but there is no denying Vox amps. I own a Vox AD50VT and though it is solid state with a 12AX7 in the pre amp section it happens to be one of my favorite SS amps next to the marshall lead 12. the AD50VT sings with warmth for an SS. I love it.
chuck jones I like both kinds of amps for different instruments. Marshall for HB guitars and Vox for the telecaster and my ukulele. Marshall growls but the Vox cries and sings.
What a great video. Grew up in the ' 60s but never saw a Vox amp in person until '82 when a neighbor had a Buckingham. Far cry from the real deal but apparently good enough for The Heartbreakers. Saw Tom during the '97 Fillmore 'marathon' and a wall of Vintage AC30s were there. Me, just owned a ss Pathfinder that i ran out of room for. Great little amp.
I am witness of everything shown and said in this documentary except Brian May words on VOX AC 30 problems. In my band during 1970-ies both guitarists had VOX, two models , one quite new at the time, second "TOP BOOST". And to one happened exactly the same case: We were playing in one theatre lower ground than the entrance. And guitarist had frozen hands so AC 30 fall off from quite high steps. We expected that's "THE END". But it played perfect and there was no scratches. I played bass (Sometimes 100W Fender Bass Master, or 100W Hiwatt both with 200W Celestion Box) and FULL POWER, otherwise I can't be loud enough. VOXes gave great sound with Italian ECO and Fender and Gibson guitars. Changing Tubes regularly, and in just one case a resistor,...That's all.
Good documentary. The Beatles, a little inaccurate that they would never use anything else besides vox. By the time the later part of the mid sixties came about many of they're hits were recorded on Fender amps. The Vox is definitely the voice of the early Beatles for sure though.
They said that the Beatles would never use anything other than Vox while Brian Epstein was manager of the Beatles which they didn't since Brian died in 1967 anything like let it be was when he wasn't their manager. However on the odd occasion I believe that in the studio they may have begun to use other makes like Selmer and Fender before Brian died.
Selmer! My old man had a Selmer amp in the mid 60's... I have a '71 Fender Twin Reverb, but have always wanted a Vox AC15/30- whenever I get to choose a backline hire amp, it's always a Vox!
@@RoyceLerwick None of the Beatles played Vox guitars or toured with a different amp. However, the rooftop show from "Let it Be" you can see the glowing red power light of George's Twin Reverb and his Telecaster guitar.
I'm farming your comments for ideas, so thank you all so very much and Merry Christmas! I'm about to undertake a rebuild on a Peavey Austin 400 to make it sound a bit more Fenderish. Not a bad sounding amp already but I've had it since 1983 or so when I bought it used from a guy at work and I think it's due for a restoration. Tips are appreciated, by the way. Blessings!
the old ones r a nightmare to keep running..... the chinesd re-issues sound fantastic n last alot longer...... Vox ac-30's modern offerig are true to the old sound n much easier to own.....( m just don't get fooled n buy the sngle12 ac-30... who thought that was a good idea???!!!!!!!)........ that is not my opinion, it is billy duffy's comment on his new ac-30.... he bought the chinese model n uses it on-stage..... if it's good enough for the Cult it's ok 4me as well :)
One of my guitar players had a Russian amp...or so he said it was. Wish I could remember it's name. He gave it a very unique sound. Loudest amp of it's size I ever played beside. My right ear still rings as proof!
@@japhygoldman8856 That's it Japhy! I went to bed that nite and thought about it an that name popped into my head. Then found a bunch of Soviets on YT, but none like it. I think the head mighta been built-in. Maybe even a bass rig for all I know. Anit was old. Looked early '70s, an was a industrial looking bluish covering. Cloth/vinyl sorta texture. Any clues???
The VOX Guidebook is the source of most of this information - it was created in the early 2000s by Jim Elyea. I believe it's sold-out now. Dick Denny and many former employees of VOX told their stories for that book, which is filled with hundreds of amazing photos and details.
Just for the record -- Brian Jones recruited Mick Jagger and Keith Richards for a band he, Brian Jones, was putting together and which he, Brian Jones, named the Rolling Stones.
I really enjoyed this. The Vox Continental was my dream back in the 60's. It's black keys were white and white keys were black. It audaciously had drawbars as if it were a Hammond. It was actually a Thomas Organ like Lawrence Welk used to advertise - but no one made that association. It was just very cool. -but I survived with my farfisa.
Brian May seems like a real gentleman. Love the VOX; the history, the sound. Not so happy when on stage and my amp is not working... Can't afford a back up, so I'm on a thight rope with no security net.
Nothing to do with made in China. Vox amps are inherently unreliable do to the circuit, even the British made stuff had problems. The original purpose of Matchless was to design a reliable AC30.
My Vox AC50CPH (the recent classic plus) doesn´t have a fan. Maybe it should. But I also don´t think it gets as hot as the old Voxes. I had an Ashdown Peacemeker 60w a few years ago that had a fan. I think every tube amp should have 1 or 2 PC fans. Some of them are very silent and don´t even suck tone :-)
I can't confirm any word on "AC30 low reliability". During the seventies, both guitarist in my band had this amplifiers. We travelled frequently by no mean of luxury. Once, happened exactly the same shown on TV. Carrying AC30 down the stairs, guitarist slipped and amplifier rolled down. We were astonished of the fact we could not use amp for his guitar and PA (we didn't had separate PA). But, he switched on VOX and,...Worked fine. During this six-seven years history, only one ECC 83 was replaced and one resistor. Amazing reliability!
sad story, sometimes it's good to just stay where you are. you want an amp. wait for it. lol WE will make it when your order comes up. Sad story in the end. thanks for posting. I never knew.
P240, we meet again... ☹️ Awesome video, though! Absolutely amazing! I didn’t know any of us history, and I have been a professional guitar player for about 38 years. By the way, did anyone else notice at 12:58 the box cabinet is empty without any speakers in it? You can see the circles, you can see their legs through the holes. 😉
Since the mid-60s Vox guitars were built by the Eko factory in central Italy, which at that time was the biggest guitar factory in Europe. For instance the 12 strings acoustic used by bands such as the Hollies was actually the Eko Ranger-12 with the Vox label on
I enjoyed this, but there are a few inaccuracies. First, The Beatles most certainly did use other amps in addition to Vox (Fender, to be exact - in the studio, later in the their career, and also in the famous 'Rooftop Concert'). Second, the implication that Mick and Keith finally met on the train when they were in their teens ignores the reality that they knew each other when they were kids. Also, I do recall Mick Taylor (Editor, featured in the video) saying on his TH-cam 'That Pedal Show' (with his co-presenter, Dan) that the first 25 (I think it was 25) AC 30s had some circuit which made their sound unique, and The Beatles had some of that run of AC 30s, I think.
I believe that the promise from Brian was that they would never use anything besides Vox in their live performances. Personally, I don't think you can count the "rooftop concert" as a live performance, because it was not an organized concert. There were no tickets, and most people who heard them couldn't even see them.
I own an EKO 2 channel amp combo with twin 12 speakers. Made in the early 70's. It seems to be about 40 watts. This amp was made in Renati Italy who also made Vox amps. Excellent amp. Very clean sound. I am sure that it is a Vox clone. It has a spring reverb and a fantastic tremolo. Perfect for gigs in bars. Those that don't like the clean sounding Vox are the younger players who are accustomed to a much more distorted sound that is much more common these days. If I want distortion, I use an early Rat distortion pedal. If I want a more controlled bluesy sound I use my old Ibanez Super Tube Screamer. I also have a very early Dunlop wah pedal with the Thomas Organ company circuit board and the brown Mexican dime stack.
Classic story of British innovation, then success, then failure through being shafted. How many brands from aircraft, through motorcycles could this same story apply to?
The lesson is: don't screw with success. If Vox couldn't keep up with demand... so be it. Supply and demand would just increase prices. But they tried to become huge and went down in flames, never to emerge again as a creative force. They just didn't realize that their 'secret sauce' was their small size. They could control parts, quality, design, sales... everything! They sold their boutique company for some magic beans and a promise of fortune. When I went to my local music store in Philadelphia in the sixties to buy a Vox amp, the price was almost double what a Fender amp cost. As much as I wanted 'the Beatles sound' I couldn't pay $800 when I could get a Fender for $400. The amps sounded completely different, but money is money. I still have my Fender Twin Reverb from back then. I wonder what it would be like to have a Vox from back then. Maybe in another life, lol. This documentary was one of the best I have ever seen. Well done, well done!
Classic story of British innovation coupled with stupid management and what was in effect a bitter resentment of enforcing quality while upscaling production. It killed the once magnificent British motorcycle industry. (I've two Commandos and a Trident.) British cottage industries are wonderful, but the management practices do not scale. QUALITY IS A CHOICE. There is nothing about an amplifier whose production cannot be easily scaled while maintaining quality and millions of tube televisions (Motorola) and radios (Grundig) proved it. There is nothing about an original tube amp which cannot be precisely measured and duplicated with the same parts today. Electronic systems involve choices. Marshall made the right ones. Unfortunately Vox chose differently.
I wish a scholar would ring in on how tf this happened. Why not go to a bank? That's the kind of situation they love. High demand, need to build a bigger factory. He sold a controlling stake to an airplane parts company? He HAD to have been in major debt. It's the only reason I can think of why he would behave that way. Plus the "workers carried on, unaware..." bit. The "came out crying" when it all fell apart bit. What was really going on my man? Fascinating to me.
Excellent video. Thanks for uploading it. Of course, 'Rock Around The Clock' was a 1955 hit, not as you might think from hearing this, from the sixties.
In ‘68, I bought a Vox Continental keyboard and AC30 amp. I loved the amp, but couldn’t keep the Continental tuned because of the reeds. I traded it for a new Yamaha Electone YC20. Never had a problem with it. I added a Farfisa keyboard since I was really into the Doors music at that time.
Yes, but The Beatles used Fenders Twin Reverbs with 100 watts RMS and Bassman 100, they found these amps made in Fullerton, California after their last USA tour in 1966, and executives from the Rickenbacker Guitar Co., supplied guitars and a special bass made for McCartney which he`s left-handed without any charge, and after that they start to use that brand of amplifiers on the studio, and in their final time they played together at the top of the Apple building in London, a couple of Fender`s Twin Reverb amplifiers, Fender Bassman 100 and a Fender Public Address amp and speakers.
Lol, I use a Bass man 100 I modded for guitar and like Peavey supplied lynyrd skynyrd as a promotion the AC30 was a promotion amp for bands that came before, you are absolutely correct!
Then at some point somebody said hey we can just mic the amp and put it through the PA system. Then it didn't matter anymore how many watts you had, 30-35 watts is plenty
The Vox collaboration with Tony Bruno produced an amp that covers even more territory; the 2 X 12 version of the Vox Bruno gives you a Fender clean option, but the harmonic distortion is something else, a perfect amp for the Blues/Rock player!
Shortly after losing Vox, Jennings setup Jennings Electronic Industries, I have a mint condition AC40, which is virtually identical to the Vox AC30 Top Boost, layout is marginally different, circuitry is almost twin, these were only made for around 2 years 1971 to 74 I think So they are as rare as "Rocking Horse Shit" mine is a 73 one. When I acquired this amp, it was fitted with 1972 Fane speakers, whether they were original or not I'm uncertain, but it now has 1 Vox labelled Blue Celestion from 1964 and another of the same from the 90's UK made edition. It sounds just awesome, the range of tone from sparkly clean to absolutely mean and dirty, along with everything in between.
Have had my AC30 since '76 and the nearest I can date its manufacture from the various sources of info is November '63 and it still works fine. I got it because I was a huge Rory Gallagher fan and the amp (with a boost) delivered that sound . For the uninitiated I always recommend listen to the albums Live Taste (esp Same Old Story) and Rory Gallagher Live in Europe (esp Messin with the Kid) to hear what an AC30 can do. (And of course the amazing Mr May as on this vid).
I'll always remember the early years of Taste - Rory & his Strat + AC30 on a chair, with that treble booster - He then moved on to other amps in later years . . . What a player though !
Also Brian May has always stated that it was Rory who influenced his sound and use of AC30's and the treble booster himself after asking Rory after a gig at the Marquee Club, how he got his sound . . .
I put myself thru undergrad college in the 60s playing music. I remember some good guitarists who had the AC 30. Good sound! I had, and still have, a Vox Essex bass amp. Going to a Fender Showman was a definite upgrade. And as for the Vox Superbeatle, as one lead player put it, "100 knobs, each one sounding worse than the last". Vox wasn't the only manufacturer of radical guitars. I had (and wish I'd kept)a 66 Gibson Thunderbird, had a lead player with a Gibson Arrow and another with a Firebird.
Hmmm a friend of mine has two original Super Beatles. I've played through both of them with my 59 Les Paul Junior and they sounded great! Would love to see and hear your Essex bass amp.
The Essex and the Super Beatle were not genuine Jennings Musical Industries (a.k.a. Jennings Musical Instruments) amps. They are solid-state amps that were designed and manufactured by the Thomas Organ Company. Whereas the Jennings Musical Industries VOX amps were based on tube technology, the Thomas Organ Company quickly discontinued tube technology in favor of solid-state technology. Most of the early solid-state designs could not hold a candle to their tube-type brethren from a performance point of view and had reliability issues. There is a reason why tube technology still dominates analog guitar amp designs. Most of what has come to be known as good guitar tone is the result of the inherent flaws in tube designs and the non-linearity of the technology, non-linearities that were difficult to duplicate with more modern technology until the advent of digital modeling.
I made a sordid living with a nightclub band for the first year after high school, then got a communique from Department of Defense... my ass had had been drafted. End of my musical career --- always joked that the Army ruined my chances to be a rock star!
Remember, boys and girls, removing the negative feedback loop from your Marshall wont make it a Vox amp, it makes an unstable circuit prone to oscillation.
@@TheMentalblockrock Exactly my thoughts. It happens a lot. Artists, technicians, and scientists rarely have business acumen as well. They say Bill Gates was a notable exception. When he tried to sell Windows to IBM they declined. So he decided to just license it instead. The rest is history, as they say.
He sold the controlling interest to get enough money to expand the business. Banks would only lend at exorbitant interest rates, that's if they would lend at all, so it was the only way to fulfil the increased demand for Vox products. As the documentary shows, Royston then found themselves in trouble after they lost out on the flight recorder contract.
I worked on VOX amps all my life and can add a few bits to this video. Hank Marvin came into the shop where I worked with a faulty VOX amp, when we stripped it down we found that the tone circuits were modified and it turned out that Hank took it to VOX after hearing Fender amps because he wanted more treble and this inspired the "Top Boost" model which uses a tone stack similar to the Fender Bassman funnily enough. The other thing is I believe that when VOX had amps made in America the contract was flawed and the American company started making VOX themselves and changed the circuitry so they were cheaper to make. I worked on an AC30 that I was told was from America and it was hybrid with a transistor preamp and a valve output stage. It actually sounded very good and in fact some of the best guitar amps I have heard were hybrid including Music Man by Leo Fender. One more thing VOX amps had a bias resister and capacitor in the op valve cathodes whereas most other amps had negative bias on the op valve grids
thanks for adding your knowledge!
I read that the Gibson GA-77 Vanguard high-gain channel inspired Denny's top boost mod (link above)..? The top-boost is more of a boost than solely a treble booster, similar to how the high-gain channel on the GA-77 boosts the signal, which boosts the treble of course. As for the hybrid Music Man amps: when I saw Eric Clapton in the early 1980's at the LA Forum, he had Albert Lee on guitar too, and let me tell you - Clapton has never played that good before! I think the fact that the Forum wasn't even half full, because Clapton had been out of the light for almost a decade at the time, "Money and Cigarettes" (I love that record) was his latest recording. Having Albert Lee on second guitar, that really helped too, and Lee played brilliantly too - they got each other going, and took it to the stratosphere, so to speak. ANYways, my point is that they were using a combination of Music Man heads, and Fender cabinets. Johnny Winter loved the Music Man amps too - the one with 4 x 10" speakers. Excellent amps indeed....!
@@pharmerdavid1432 Most guitar amps have the Fender tone stack or something similar because it sounds so good, when the tone controls are in the middle position there is still a massive top and bottom boost either side if 400 Hz so the amps sound good "out of the box" so to speak. I've worked on amps since I was 15 and I'm 71 now electronics, music and performing have been my life's work,so I've made a living doing my hobbies is that to be envied or am I just a sad old bastard ?
fincaman2 ya can be both
fincaman...I guess you're not a fan of Marshall Stacks...
Can you still get the Valves for Vox Amps ?
There was a time in the mid to late 1970s when Vox AC30s were out of fashion and most players wanted a Marshall stack but when some pals and I were starting a band I suggested AC30s would be ideal for the pub gigs we were likely to be playing. We went to a second hand store in the Westgate Road in Newcastle and bought three for £95, £85 and £60 plus a huge 4x12 cab for me as bassist to use. I had to borrow an amp for a while longer until I could afford one. The battered £60 AC30 had been stripped of all its covering and had the wrong knobs on plus one channel not working but it was bought for another guitarist pal of mine as I didn't have the money to get one myself. He used it for about 10 years but it was way too loud for home use and eventually he let me have it back for the £60 paid. Eventually it died due to a duff repairers using a wrong crappy valve socket and I got it properly fixed and restored to the original circuitry by a really good amp tech, John Chambers. Then I got a new cab built by Matamp to the proper 1963 spec. as Matamp confirmed it was a 1963 model. It still sounds wonderful with its original speakers, transformers and Mullard valves and it no longer looks like a post-apocalypse wreck. The JMI AC30 is one of the greatest amps ever made.
Remember Max Shares in Westgate Road?
That’d be McKay’s. I got loads of gear there
Still got my late 1963 one bought in 1976 for £50. I was a huge fan of Rory Gallagher (and Brian May) but managed to persuade my dad to lend me the £50 largely by 'casually' dropping into the conversation the fact that the AC30 was the appliance of choice of the Shadows, an ensemble whose attention to tunefulness, strict adherence to choreographic symmetry and well-pressed stagewear, along with the origins of their key members in the northeast of England, had earned his cautious approbation.
when Brian May goes into the Bohemian Rhapsody solo, and the guy looks into the camera, like "wow, can you believe this".. it was priceless
Fantastic - the guy was completely star struck and rightly so! :-)
That was some great 4th wall melting.
I know. It struck me the same way. Can you imagine experiencing that in person?!
Guitar heaven, right there. Great to see the real spontaneous emotion.
To Mr. Pentium: This is the perks of the job, being a reporter and interviewing the classic stars. It is good to do what one loves. Fascination often comes from the studious and aware.
Even now, I am totally blown away that Brian May and his father built that guitar from scratch. Great musician and great father.
i bought one in 1963,still using it ,nothing can touch it for sound! and it,s built like a tank! best amp ever.
Now if you would have been the one.. to walk in and suggest they give you the VoX... The Beatles took the cake... Dint they...
robert ovens in 1989, someone offered me a genuine 60s AC30 for £20 cash as seen - and it was completely battered with a dirty great coffee stain down the front so I walked away, and I regret it to this day.
If I had known what it meant, I would have bought it on the spot. I would have had it restored as the electronics all worked perfectly and sounded amazing - it was only the case and cosmetics that were battered.
And it was on sale for £20. I'm gutted.
Of course I did eventually find a mint original '65 Grey Bullet, but it cost me £1700 in 2004. I had a guitarist come in the studio once and offered me three grand for it and I said no. Not selling it for any price.
@@RB747domme I sold an AC30 twin (had since 1967) for £10 in 1975 as a student, thinking it was too big to cart around from flat to flat and could easily get another... :-(
@@RB747domme isn't hindsight always 20 20..sorry brother..but I also have similar regrets ...we learned didn't we...cool story ...thanks for sharing .keep playing friend.
I purchased a Vox Essex Bass amp in 1966. It was my second amp & a real upgrade for me at the time. As amazing as it sounds, I was in hot demand simply because I was playing a Vox amp! The Beatles had made the Vox "Super Beatle" amp popular a year or so earlier, but not many American "garage" bands (as they're known today) had a Vox on stage. It seemed to immediately give your band an air of respectability in those early days & I got a ton of gigs just because of my amp, lol.
Great history of the VOX company, and the AC30 amplifier. Very nice footage and those involved in the company. Cheers
Sadly, a film about the Vox AC30 and not one mention of the greatest guitarist who ever plugged into one, the late great Rory Gallagher. He used his treble boosted AC30 and occasionally a Fender Bassman right to the very end. I'll never forget seeing him playing live on several occasions.
Rory used a variety of amps through his career; AC 30, Fender twin Reverb, Fender Showman, Stramp, Marshalls, among others.
When asked about his sound a young Rory Gallagher told an even younger Brian May to get an AC30 and a treblebooster and he should be satisfied then.
Cliff W.. I read an interview with Rory where he states on one night he was in the middle of his set & whatever song he was playing when he began to smell something burning. Turns out as he turned around his AC30 was in flames. They managed to get the amp off & put out the flames but the amp was history. Fortunately he had a back up & the show went on. Still one of Rory's favorite amps he was the ultimate pro. I used to see him in the early 70s when he was opening for i believe Deep Purple & he played here many times in Washington DC at this small club called My Mother's Place . Some of the best acts went through that club like Roy Buchanan & Link Wray. That's how Rory was ,on his days off he would find somewhere to play instead of lounging around. Saw him several more times when he was here in the mid 70s & he was always the ultimate showman & one of the greatest players in Rock.
@Gar Goil At least some of us do mention Rory . I do agree they should have at least mentioned him in the clip.
Very cool... So awesome to see Brian May playing the solo. My reaction was the same as the interviewer. Just made me smile... My first amp was a Vox Pathfinder that I bought for $25 in the late 60's. I wish I realized what I had and wouldn't have sold it!
Scott, rest easy if you can.. we are always forgetting the future : I sold my 72 Les Paul Custom in 81, I think. American made, white w/ chrome finishes. a sound that would put birds asleep - or wake 'em with a start! On a beautiful Orange. Gone too. oh great woe!!!
One thing they don't mention is the Vox AC 30s sound better when they running on 230 Volts than they do at 115 Volts. They also had these bizarre three position tone switches that would boost or emphasize different mid-range frequencies. You can hear it on the Piano they put through it on the tune Birthday from The Beatles White Album.
Many years ago, one of my buddies who was a key performer in one of history's all-time greatest Supergroups played me some early recordings of the band done for the BBC's Top of the Pops radio show. They were unbelieveable on many levels, and he had hours of them. One of the most amazing things was the extremely high quality of the recordings, and the unadulterated shimmering crystal clear sound of the band's guitars through early Vox AC30 amps. He made copies on CDs for me, and I believe no one knows to this day (besides him and me) that copies of those recordings still exist.
This is the most underrated comment on rock and roll I’ve read on TH-cam. Would LOVE to know more- fantastic!!! You’re so lucky to have heard them. 👍🏻👍🏻
@@stayalivesweetheart Thank you.
8:53 The Fender sound is all _clean?_ Maybe at low volumes. Put any guts to 'em at all and they break-up like gravel, especially in the low end. That was why I switched to Music Man amps (112 RD, and 112 RP) back in the '80s. Loud & solid-edged clean like hitting an anvil.
I actually couldn't give f***all about Vox amplifiers, but the Continental II (and arguably their wah pedal) practically defined the sound of the '60s.
I’d rather have my Vox AC30s than a music man amp which was over hyped and how many pros use them now.
As a pro touring guitarist the AC30 is a masterpiece better than any Marshall, Fender or Facebook marketplace Musicman amp lol
@@deanlunn1969 How many pros (define that term for me) use AC30s? None that I know of. I mainly see them in church worship bands.
The Beatles used them, of course, and The Knack used them because of The Beatles, but beyond that I can't think of any big names using Vox amps.
But you know why I initially chose Music Man? Because that's what I saw Dire Straits using at the time. And they're no slouches as far as I'm concerned.
Buck Dharma used a Music Man 410 to deliver one of the all time great guitar leads on Don't Fear The Reaper. But, to be fair, he also used AC30s on other tunes.
It's all a matter of taste, my friend. I found Music Man the best at delivering full, mostly-clean sound at volumes that belied their RMS wattage ratings.
@@BigBri550 Wow really most of the 60 bands I toured with in the 90s used VOX AC30s Rory Gallaghers main amp was a AC30 the shadows used them on there anniversary and Cliff shows then there’s the Searchers, The Honeycombs, The Kinks, Brian May gets his sound through a bank of modded AC30s, Ritchie Blackmore used them for years as did Status Quo and U2s the edge. Not as many pros used or use Musicman amps
@@deanlunn1969 Yeah, Music Man didn't even rival Peavey in sheer numbers lol! But I stand by what I said: Music Man combos were the best amps I ever used for live gigs, and this is coming from a devotee of tube Fender combos.
Host: "It was Rock 'n' Roll that brought us the electric guitar."
Charlie Christian, T-Bone Walker, Les Paul, Chet Atkins, Oscar Moore, Muddy Waters and B.B. King: "Are we a joke to you?"
Yes you are
YES
Not only WAS Mick born in a crossfire hurricane (World War II), he and Keith also DIDN´T form the Rolling Stones. Brian Jones and Ian Stewart did, and they joined afterwards. Otherwise, great documentary.
Was he raised by a toothless bearded hag as well? He just used 'crossfire hurricane' because its a great image...
never met Mick's mother...
Was about to write an angry comment about this
Bingo
Lol
Great documentary. No mention of the Super Beatle amps or the solid state stuff..
Brian May is so laid back and so cool, a real gentleman!
Brian May's tone is one of the sweetest sounds ever created on earth. The live recording they did of Brighton Rock will literally make your ears bleed in pure joy.
Not literally, no.
@@MichaelRobinson-yq3rg why no? Its a really unique sound!
I have never seen this program before today...Wow Brilliant. I played lead guitar with Shades of Grey in 1980's I had three VOX AC 30 1 x 1982 Rose Morris made Vox AC 30 and 2x 1960's Jennings made VOX AC 30's (with Blue speakers) a great lovely warm sound. Very good work horses...Sadly sold them all a few years ago now.
Hey my step dad is best friends with Davey grey haha crazy how small this world really is
The metal band?
Great history commentary of Jennings/Vox amps
First gig I ever played, in a very large school hall in Southport, there was pretty much an empty stage apart from - a 4 piece drum kit, an Orange valve amp + Marshall 4x4 cab and me with a Vox AC30 on full volume! Blasting out 'Sheena is a Punk Rocker' felt like I could conquer the world!
As an aside [although I didn't know it at the time] the valves use in the AC30 where also made in Southport www.effectrode.com/knowledge-base/mullards-empire-of-rust/
@@cpcnw Not exactly. Blackburn was the valve factory. As the author says in his intro "Although the Crossens works didn’t manufacture vacuum tubes, it did produce ferrite pot cores and magnets for loudspeakers..."
What an amazing story of British innovation and design, absolutely brilliant!
Thanks for posting and best wishes.
Love Mick Taylor's demo at c9mins. Anyone here a fan of That Pedal Show?
Quite a surprise seeing a younger Mick Taylor from That Pedal Show here
I thought that was a horrible demo of both the Marshall and the Vox.
Just realised it's him :-) I thought he would give some Hendrix for the Marshall Demo. AC/DC with a Strat :-)
man i always overlooked Brian May until recent, I am now re-energized and have a new found love for that Vox type sound. Great video!
Vox amps. Without any doubt are TheMost Versatile sounding device! It truly responds to the way you approach playing it ! Softly, and she will sparkle clear and transparent! Hit her hard and she will bark right back at you like a scorned woman! And this is without Any pedals.
Sick an overdrive device in your chain and look out creamy compressed sonic Marvelment! The Vox will sound like any Thing you wish it to! I've owned Marshalls,Fenders,Laney,...and they All have fell short of what these wonderful tone monsters can and will deliver!
absolutely. every other amp is just a repackaged Fender in some way, nothing sounds like Vox. my epiphone casino, into my ernie ball mvp, into my AC15 is the sound I've always heard in my ears
Wonderful doc. Great fun and perhaps has introduced the Vox legacy to new fans. A couple of mild mistakes (The Beatles indeed did use other amps i.e. Fender, but late in their career) hardly dampens the tribute here. And I have owned a few recent Vox products including my current AC15C1 and that came from auditioning several different amps. There is a Vox sound, but even a single model number will have a variety of different sounds based on year of manufacture, manufacturer, components used and design changes. They are all approximates and you find the sound you like best and go with it. It's a tool and the player really makes the difference. But Vox gives you a great platform to launch. Thanks for uploading this video. Nice to see the heritage.
I had a Vox Pathfinder 15R amp. Great amp. Sold to a girl in Sacramento CA. She loves it. I bought a Marshall. Love it. Then bought a few Fender amps. Champ and Super Lead. Was lucky to get them. Then bought a Marshall Valvestate 80. After that it was all over for other amps. sold everything and kept the Marshall Valvestate 80
We always saw Ritchie Blackmore with Marshalls on stage, but in the studio he played VOX.
I wish he played the same tune on the 3 Amps so we could actually tell the difference ...................... thanks for sharing the video ! :)
absolutly...... that side by side was worthless..... plus, brits never sound good on fender amps.... in my opinion only :)
Difference was night and day.
yea, that part was completely pointless. At least he could have skipped the distortion on the Marshall amp. And as you say, played the same tune.
Im a 39 year old Dartfordian guitarist and this is the most inspring thing i have ever seen.. time to play loud !
Fascinating, and very entertaining. We need more videos like this. Thank you
I've watched this multiple times as I'm a big Vox fan, but I never noticed that at 12:57 the amp Mick and Bill are standing by doesn't appear to have any speakers in it hehe
I have both a Fender and a Marshall, never played a Vox. But I really like that Marshall sound. It sounds great in a bar or an auditorium, and it'll crank way beyond anything you need.
The interviewer's awe-struck look starting at 19:00, and then his turn to the camera man ("are you freakin' getting this??") at 19:04 is THE best thing on You Tube.
That Brian May solo makes me want a Vox now. This was a great lesson
Go to 18:42 to hear Dr. May. You won’t be disappointed.
@@chasbodaniels1744 I did. I wasn't. I thank you.
Great story, the name you see on stage through the last 50+ yrs. that we all have grown up with. Wonderful. Thanx. P.S.
0:16 Drovers (from the side)
0:17 Drovers (from the front)
The Drovers
“Today Magazine” Competition
Cavern, Liverpool
Third place in a country wide competition
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AC30
Mike Hooper Singer
Terry Parker Lead Guitar
Ron Baker Bass Guitar
Ray Maher Rhythm Guitar
Chris Gutsell Drums
That whomp-whomp VOX sound, unique in it's day, and well-engineered. Definitely worthy of a Museum.
Great documentary on one of the most iconic amps of all time.
From the Beatles and the Stones to Queen and many bands of today, an AC-30 is the real deal!
Also, the James Bond theme from '62 was recorded on one.
Bruce Dumes - thank you for posting this Vox video. I NOW have an interest in hearing an AC30 in the States,
My nephew has an interest in valve (tube) amps and showed this video to my brother in law and at 0:17 he exclaimed THAT’S MY BAND THAT’S MY BAND!!!!! We were at a family gathering so word spread fast to the family . The two clips of the “Drovers” were fast but fantastic!
I recently heard a 1960s story about when the Drovers played down the street from an overflow Stones performance not only did the Drovers get some of the overflow - AND the overflow was really pumped!
BRUCE >>>
The archivist for this doc is Tiffany Baker and I assume no relation to Ron Baker of the Drovers.
Hoping to find a tribute band with an AC30 to hear.
Hi Bob. That's a great story about your brother-in-law! If your nephew has a local guitar shop, he might ask them if they know of a band locally to him that uses an AC30, or they might even have an AC30 in the shop. The modern AC30 amps don't have all the amazingness of the originals, but over the years they have put out some very good hand-wired tube versions that sounds really great. Best of luck and so glad to hear you and your family enjoyed this.
I’ll get word to my nephew. A Queen tribute band is appearing down the street from me - but from their videos they’re not Vox. (With the music we get to see the documentary Bohemian Rhapsody)
Great idea I’ll follow through - a guitar shop a stones throw away.
I’ll report back.
I play a recently made Vox AC15. The name is owned by Korg now. The high-end amps are very well made in Vietnam. Very simple upgrades like the speaker change to the Blueback, custom valve set will give you that same 1960's sound. The Korg amps are well made from decent wood, weigh a ton! They really have but very faithful to the Dartford made amps! I would not fancy gigging with an AC30 due to the weight. Those early amps are amazing. The Beatles cab being wonderful. The vox wah-wah was a total gem! The AC50 didn't get a mention, but it was a great valve head amp. They forgot to mention key components such as the Mullard tubes use. They were killer tubes. We made the best tubes in the world. They were amazing, plus the speakers being Celestion blue/greenbacks. Both were British made. They could have written in 20 minutes on those two key parts!
@@GCKelloch I kept the green, great middle sounds which seem to make my blues sound sweet.
The stock greenbacks sound great, a more forward sound. The modern ac15 is a lovely gigging amp, real vox tone at a price and availability that doesn’t make you cringe when you throw it in the back of the transit, half drunk and sweating, on a Friday night. There’s no way you’d put a hand wired JMI from the 60’s through that ordeal 😂
@@nicksalt4346 Yeah, it was the shock Grenbacks, I went for a pair of the 30 watt ones. Gave me more room on the top. I never liked the Bluebacks in the end, I found them less warm, more chimmy
wow, this brings back a lot of memories. my first new amp was a Essex Bass Vox. also aquired a Royal Guardsmen Guitar amp. wish I had kept them!!!
Brian Mays tone is so damn sweet. That hollow tone. Damn it sounds good.
Great documentary thanks for putting it on TH-cam
At 12:20, Mick Jagger sings "I was born in a crossfire hurricane..." then the BBC presenter says, "No you weren't Mick. You were born in Dartford." Well, being born in the middle of WW2 in Dartford, Kent with R.A.F. "Hurricane" aircraft flying overhead sure sounds like being born in a "crossfire hurricane" to me. Somebody tell this guy and Terry Doolittle (Whoopi Goldberg's character in the film "Jumpin' Jack Flash") that is what Mick's on about... but it's all right now. In fact it's a gas!!!
Damn. I never considered the lyric as bio at all thanks. WTF is Jumping Jack Flash? Kids playing games to being bombed? Do tell.
Who is "Jack Flash"? His name is Jack Dyer, and he was Keith Richards' gardener. Richards explained to Rolling Stone in 2010: "The lyrics came from a gray dawn at Redlands. Mick and I had been up all night, it was raining outside, and there was the sound of these boots near the window, belonging to my gardener, Jack Dyer. It woke Mick up. He said, 'What's that?' I said, 'Oh, that's Jack. That's jumping Jack.' I started to work around the phrase on the guitar, which was in open tuning, singing the phrase 'Jumping Jack.' Mick said, 'Flash,' and suddenly we had this phrase with a great rhythm and ring to it." reprint kindly songfacts.com
Cool. I noticed that too. We built our amps in the early sixties. Dual parallel push-pull means UNRELIABLE. But you can't beat valves for warm harmonic tones.
Jack Migger.
Dartford is on the border of London/Kent. The battle of Britain was fought a bit further on down the same railway line, towards Dover. It was probably bombed just like anywhere else in the south east,but nowhere near as much as say,Chatham Dockyard,or the east end of London.
In addition to how great the music was, I always loved the *sound* of the Beatles. And the Shadows as well, when I was turned on to them (I'm a Yank). Appreciate the story of a key part of what made the *guitars* sound so great.
I swear by my Fender champ 100, but those 60's voxs' sound really sweet!!
To have a private Brian May concert is lifetime memory.
im actually a bigger marshall fan to be honest but there is no denying Vox amps.
I own a Vox AD50VT and though it is solid state with a 12AX7 in the pre amp section it happens to be one of my favorite SS amps next to the marshall lead 12.
the AD50VT sings with warmth for an SS. I love it.
chuck jones I like both kinds of amps for different instruments. Marshall for HB guitars and Vox for the telecaster and my ukulele. Marshall growls but the Vox cries and sings.
What a great video. Grew up in the ' 60s but never saw a Vox amp in person until '82 when a neighbor had a Buckingham. Far cry from the real deal but apparently good enough for The Heartbreakers. Saw Tom during the '97 Fillmore 'marathon' and a wall of Vintage AC30s were there. Me, just owned a ss Pathfinder that i ran out of room for. Great little amp.
I am witness of everything shown and said in this documentary except Brian May words on VOX AC 30 problems. In my band during 1970-ies both guitarists had VOX, two models , one quite new at the time, second "TOP BOOST". And to one happened exactly the same case: We were playing in one theatre lower ground than the entrance. And guitarist had frozen hands so AC 30 fall off from quite high steps. We expected that's "THE END". But it played perfect and there was no scratches. I played bass (Sometimes 100W Fender Bass Master, or 100W Hiwatt both with 200W Celestion Box) and FULL POWER, otherwise I can't be loud enough. VOXes gave great sound with Italian ECO and Fender and Gibson guitars. Changing Tubes regularly, and in just one case a resistor,...That's all.
I think the Shadows were the first band to use the Vox AC30 Amp
Good documentary. The Beatles, a little inaccurate that they would never use anything else besides vox. By the time the later part of the mid sixties came about many of they're hits were recorded on Fender amps. The Vox is definitely the voice of the early Beatles for sure though.
They said that the Beatles would never use anything other than Vox while Brian Epstein was manager of the Beatles which they didn't since Brian died in 1967 anything like let it be was when he wasn't their manager. However on the odd occasion I believe that in the studio they may have begun to use other makes like Selmer and Fender before Brian died.
Selmer! My old man had a Selmer amp in the mid 60's... I have a '71 Fender Twin Reverb, but have always wanted a Vox AC15/30- whenever I get to choose a backline hire amp, it's always a Vox!
Yes, but yet, in many ocasions in '68/'69 a AC30 or AC50 appeared in the studio, George was guilty of that.
Harrison is on record complaining that he resented being locked into Vox and lusted after Fender and other guitars.
@@RoyceLerwick None of the Beatles played Vox guitars or toured with a different amp. However, the rooftop show from "Let it Be" you can see the glowing red power light of George's Twin Reverb and his Telecaster guitar.
I'm farming your comments for ideas, so thank you all so very much and Merry Christmas!
I'm about to undertake a rebuild on a Peavey Austin 400 to make it sound a bit more Fenderish. Not a bad sounding amp already but I've had it since 1983 or so when I bought it used from a guy at work and I think it's due for a restoration. Tips are appreciated, by the way.
Blessings!
24:40..... Vox indeed made a fuzz pedal, but it's accepted that the Stones used the Maestro Fuzz Tone for that song.
I had a Maestro Fuzz, it was stolen. Sad. 1968.
I had the Maestro FZ-1A reissue. I sold it on e-bay. It didn't work well with chords.
I bought a AC15c1 recently and I'll never go back, best amp I've ever played :)
Mick from that pedal show!!
Interesting. (Cool to learn 'the rest of the story', too.) Thanks for sharing this.
Those amps still sound great to this very day. I have actually never owned one. I need to change that soon.
the old ones r a nightmare to keep running..... the chinesd re-issues sound fantastic n last alot longer...... Vox ac-30's modern offerig are true to the old sound n much easier to own.....( m just don't get fooled n buy the sngle12 ac-30... who thought that was a good idea???!!!!!!!)........ that is not my opinion, it is billy duffy's comment on his new ac-30.... he bought the chinese model n uses it on-stage..... if it's good enough for the Cult it's ok 4me as well :)
This is the coolest show I have seen in a while on many levels. What a great story!
One of my guitar players had a Russian amp...or so he said it was. Wish I could remember it's name.
He gave it a very unique sound. Loudest amp of it's size I ever played beside. My right ear still rings as proof!
Sovtek!
@@japhygoldman8856 That's it Japhy! I went to bed that nite and thought about it an that name popped into my head. Then found a bunch of Soviets on YT, but none like it. I think the head mighta been built-in. Maybe even a bass rig for all I know. Anit was old. Looked early '70s, an was a industrial looking bluish covering. Cloth/vinyl sorta texture. Any clues???
The VOX Guidebook is the source of most of this information - it was created in the early 2000s by Jim Elyea. I believe it's sold-out now. Dick Denny and many former employees of VOX told their stories for that book, which is filled with hundreds of amazing photos and details.
Just for the record -- Brian Jones recruited Mick Jagger and Keith Richards for a band he, Brian Jones, was putting together and which he, Brian Jones, named the Rolling Stones.
A MUCH forgotten fact!!
Where by chance they'd met in a blues club opposite Ealing Broadway tube station.
I really enjoyed this. The Vox Continental was my dream back in the 60's. It's black keys were white and white keys were black. It audaciously had drawbars as if it were a Hammond. It was actually a Thomas Organ like Lawrence Welk used to advertise - but no one made that association. It was just very cool. -but I survived with my farfisa.
I actually own a Thomas organ. Amazing features!
Brian May seems like a real gentleman. Love the VOX; the history, the sound. Not so happy when on stage and my amp is not working... Can't afford a back up, so I'm on a thight rope with no security net.
(Made in China, you see)
Nothing to do with made in China. Vox amps are inherently unreliable do to the circuit, even the British made stuff had problems. The original purpose of Matchless was to design a reliable AC30.
IamMagPie Dr. Brian May is a scholar as well as a gentleman, he has a P.H.D in Astrophysics .
Good explanation TJ. You telt him!
My Vox AC50CPH (the recent classic plus) doesn´t have a fan. Maybe it should. But I also don´t think it gets as hot as the old Voxes. I had an Ashdown Peacemeker 60w a few years ago that had a fan. I think every tube amp should have 1 or 2 PC fans. Some of them are very silent and don´t even suck tone :-)
Just bought a 2nd-hand VOX VT80+, to accompany the crackly wee VOX Busker bought in London mid-1980s.Versatile, very fun! Thanks from Aotearoa-NZ
Vox. Marshall. Throw in the Hiwatt and you have the three greatest amps to be produced in the UK. Wow.
I'll take Orange over any of those.
Orange?
@Edward Oliver Played them all, many different models. Orange definitely come fourth in that race. He's gotta be kidding!
@Helle Fyre You're joking, right? My 65 8-tube AC-15 with a tube rectifier crushes Oranges for breakfast.
@@robertgraf9265 You haven't played many amps then.
If you want to do a Fender/Marshall/Vox comparison, please play the same piece clean or distorted.
Yep. I always hate non-comparative comparisons.
Though Fender's do have their own sound... defined largely by what you __can't__ do with them.
Very shitty comparison indeed
Definitely didn't expect to see Mick!!!
Neither did I. I recognized his voice instantly!
I know! I literally jumped in my chair like, what the hell xD
Ha! I wondered if that was him.
I involuntarily said, out loud, "Hello!"
Didn't expect it at all, but wasn't too surprised! Good representative, someone who knows his stuff
Had a VOX Amp in the early 70's. This video made a memory for me. Loved it. {^_^}
One little thing about Louie Louie, It was a Wurlitzer 200 NOT a vox
I can't confirm any word on "AC30 low reliability". During the seventies, both guitarist in my band had this amplifiers. We travelled frequently by no mean of luxury. Once, happened exactly the same shown on TV. Carrying AC30 down the stairs, guitarist slipped and amplifier rolled down. We were astonished of the fact we could not use amp for his guitar and PA (we didn't had separate PA). But, he switched on VOX and,...Worked fine. During this six-seven years history, only one ECC 83 was replaced and one resistor. Amazing reliability!
Jazz Forever l
sad story, sometimes it's good to just stay where you are. you want an amp. wait for it. lol WE will make it when your order comes up. Sad story in the end. thanks for posting. I never knew.
P240, we meet again... ☹️ Awesome video, though! Absolutely amazing! I didn’t know any of us history, and I have been a professional guitar player for about 38 years. By the way, did anyone else notice at 12:58 the box cabinet is empty without any speakers in it? You can see the circles, you can see their legs through the holes. 😉
i want an ac 15 but all i could afford was a fender blues jr, witch is a fantastic amp in its own right
Since the mid-60s Vox guitars were built by the Eko factory in central Italy, which at that time was the biggest guitar factory in Europe. For instance the 12 strings acoustic used by bands such as the Hollies was actually the Eko Ranger-12 with the Vox label on
I enjoyed this, but there are a few inaccuracies.
First, The Beatles most certainly did use other amps in addition to Vox (Fender, to be exact - in the studio, later in the their career, and also in the famous 'Rooftop Concert').
Second, the implication that Mick and Keith finally met on the train when they were in their teens ignores the reality that they knew each other when they were kids.
Also, I do recall Mick Taylor (Editor, featured in the video) saying on his TH-cam 'That Pedal Show' (with his co-presenter, Dan) that the first 25 (I think it was 25) AC 30s had some circuit which made their sound unique, and The Beatles had some of that run of AC 30s, I think.
I believe that the promise from Brian was that they would never use anything besides Vox in their live performances. Personally, I don't think you can count the "rooftop concert" as a live performance, because it was not an organized concert. There were no tickets, and most people who heard them couldn't even see them.
I own an EKO 2 channel amp combo with twin 12 speakers. Made in the early 70's. It seems to be about 40 watts. This amp was made in Renati Italy who also made Vox amps. Excellent amp. Very clean sound. I am sure that it is a Vox clone. It has a spring reverb and a fantastic tremolo. Perfect for gigs in bars. Those that don't like the clean sounding Vox are the younger players who are accustomed to a much more distorted sound that is much more common these days. If I want distortion, I use an early Rat distortion pedal. If I want a more controlled bluesy sound I use my old Ibanez Super Tube Screamer. I also have a very early Dunlop wah pedal with the Thomas Organ company circuit board and the brown Mexican dime stack.
Classic story of British innovation, then success, then failure through being shafted. How many brands from aircraft, through motorcycles could this same story apply to?
Hi Watt as well and a few other small amplifier manufactures
The lesson is: don't screw with success. If Vox couldn't keep up with demand... so be it. Supply and demand would just increase prices. But they tried to become huge and went down in flames, never to emerge again as a creative force. They just didn't realize that their 'secret sauce' was their small size. They could control parts, quality, design, sales... everything! They sold their boutique company for some magic beans and a promise of fortune.
When I went to my local music store in Philadelphia in the sixties to buy a Vox amp, the price was almost double what a Fender amp cost. As much as I wanted 'the Beatles sound' I couldn't pay $800 when I could get a Fender for $400. The amps sounded completely different, but money is money. I still have my Fender Twin Reverb from back then. I wonder what it would be like to have a Vox from back then. Maybe in another life, lol.
This documentary was one of the best I have ever seen. Well done, well done!
Classic story of British innovation coupled with stupid management and what was in effect a bitter resentment of enforcing quality while upscaling production. It killed the once magnificent British motorcycle industry. (I've two Commandos and a Trident.) British cottage industries are wonderful, but the management practices do not scale.
QUALITY IS A CHOICE. There is nothing about an amplifier whose production cannot be easily scaled while maintaining quality and millions of tube televisions (Motorola) and radios (Grundig) proved it. There is nothing about an original tube amp which cannot be precisely measured and duplicated with the same parts today.
Electronic systems involve choices. Marshall made the right ones. Unfortunately Vox chose differently.
I wish a scholar would ring in on how tf this happened. Why not go to a bank? That's the kind of situation they love. High demand, need to build a bigger factory. He sold a controlling stake to an airplane parts company? He HAD to have been in major debt. It's the only reason I can think of why he would behave that way. Plus the "workers carried on, unaware..." bit. The "came out crying" when it all fell apart bit. What was really going on my man? Fascinating to me.
Excellent video. Thanks for uploading it. Of course, 'Rock Around The Clock' was a 1955 hit, not as you might think from hearing this, from the sixties.
@ 9:00 you should of played the same tune on all three amps so you could hear the difference...
In ‘68, I bought a Vox Continental keyboard and AC30 amp. I loved the amp, but couldn’t keep the Continental tuned because of the reeds. I traded it for a new Yamaha Electone YC20. Never had a problem with it. I added a Farfisa keyboard since I was really into the Doors music at that time.
Brian Jones started the rolling stones. He put an ad in the paper and Mick answered it
Yes, but The Beatles used Fenders Twin Reverbs with 100 watts RMS and Bassman 100, they found these amps made in Fullerton, California after their last USA tour in 1966, and executives from the Rickenbacker Guitar Co., supplied guitars and a special bass made for McCartney which he`s left-handed without any charge, and after that they start to use that brand of amplifiers on the studio, and in their final time they played together at the top of the Apple building in London, a couple of Fender`s Twin Reverb amplifiers, Fender Bassman 100 and a Fender Public Address amp and speakers.
Lol, I use a Bass man 100 I modded for guitar and like Peavey supplied lynyrd skynyrd as a promotion the AC30 was a promotion amp for bands that came before, you are absolutely correct!
best echo I ever owned was a vox tape unit , had a great setting called "hall effect"
I’ve got an early 60s vox ac30 head with reverb , that I can’t get repaired here in France
Then at some point somebody said hey we can just mic the amp and put it through the PA system. Then it didn't matter anymore how many watts you had, 30-35 watts is plenty
the beatles had 100watts and they did put it through the pa in there usa tour,,but still no one heard them,,so no it was not enough,until modern PA"S
@@minstrelofMir When you have thousands of girls screaming all you're going to hear is thousands of girls screaming.
The Vox collaboration with Tony Bruno produced an amp that covers even more territory; the 2 X 12 version of the Vox Bruno gives you a Fender clean option, but the harmonic distortion is something else, a perfect amp for the Blues/Rock player!
The look the presenter gives the camera @16:55, when Brian May says, "That's halfway up."
Shortly after losing Vox, Jennings setup Jennings Electronic Industries, I have a mint condition AC40, which is virtually identical to the Vox AC30 Top Boost, layout is marginally different, circuitry is almost twin, these were only made for around 2 years 1971 to 74 I think So they are as rare as "Rocking Horse Shit" mine is a 73 one.
When I acquired this amp, it was fitted with 1972 Fane speakers, whether they were original or not I'm uncertain, but it now has 1 Vox labelled Blue Celestion from 1964 and another of the same from the 90's UK made edition.
It sounds just awesome, the range of tone from sparkly clean to absolutely mean and dirty, along with everything in between.
I know the AC40, played one years ago - it sounds perfect. Same thing, for certain. Jennings is as good.
A couple of spares says Mr. May with a wall of Vox amps behind him 😂😂
Have had my AC30 since '76 and the nearest I can date its manufacture from the various sources of info is November '63 and it still works fine. I got it because I was a huge Rory Gallagher fan and the amp (with a boost) delivered that sound . For the uninitiated I always recommend listen to the albums Live Taste (esp Same Old Story) and Rory Gallagher Live in Europe (esp Messin with the Kid) to hear what an AC30 can do. (And of course the amazing Mr May as on this vid).
Nice added info about your Rory examples.
I'll always remember the early years of Taste - Rory & his Strat + AC30 on a chair, with that treble booster - He then moved on to other amps in later years . . . What a player though !
Also Brian May has always stated that it was Rory who influenced his sound and use of AC30's and the treble booster himself after asking Rory after a gig at the Marquee Club, how he got his sound . . .
I put myself thru undergrad college in the 60s playing music. I remember some good guitarists who had the AC 30. Good sound! I had, and still have, a Vox Essex bass amp. Going to a Fender Showman was a definite upgrade. And as for the Vox Superbeatle, as one lead player put it, "100 knobs, each one sounding worse than the last". Vox wasn't the only manufacturer of radical guitars. I had (and wish I'd kept)a 66 Gibson Thunderbird, had a lead player with a Gibson Arrow and another with a Firebird.
Hmmm a friend of mine has two original Super Beatles. I've played through both of them with my 59 Les Paul Junior and they sounded great! Would love to see and hear your Essex bass amp.
The Essex and the Super Beatle were not genuine Jennings Musical Industries (a.k.a. Jennings Musical Instruments) amps. They are solid-state amps that were designed and manufactured by the Thomas Organ Company. Whereas the Jennings Musical Industries VOX amps were based on tube technology, the Thomas Organ Company quickly discontinued tube technology in favor of solid-state technology. Most of the early solid-state designs could not hold a candle to their tube-type brethren from a performance point of view and had reliability issues. There is a reason why tube technology still dominates analog guitar amp designs. Most of what has come to be known as good guitar tone is the result of the inherent flaws in tube designs and the non-linearity of the technology, non-linearities that were difficult to duplicate with more modern technology until the advent of digital modeling.
I made a sordid living with a nightclub band for the first year after high school, then got a communique from Department of Defense... my ass had had been drafted. End of my musical career --- always joked that the Army ruined my chances to be a rock star!
thank you so much for this half hour of tears in my eyes and goosebumps , wow wow wow wow wow what a story !!!!!!!!!!
Contrary to what this documentary hints at, a Maestro FZ-1 fuzz pedal was used in "Satisfaction" and not a Vox.
Made by bob Mayer I think
Probably the Maestro going into the AC30. You can hear Keith clicking on the pedal, and the reverb from the amp.
I wasn't interested in VOX Amps until the VOX Valve Tronix came out..simply Awesome Amps one of the very best..
Remember, boys and girls, removing the negative feedback loop from your Marshall wont make it a Vox amp, it makes an unstable circuit prone to oscillation.
So, a Vox then.
There are Marshall amps that don't have the negative feed back.
Thanks don, good information,
Don Rutter..Parasitic Oscillations around the Push -Pull Stage I presume?
Try a switch in the nfb circuit, works a treat, adds more sound variation.
19:00 The presenter keeps it together way better than I ever could have.
why would anyone ever sell controlling interest in their company. That's ALWAYS a dumb move unless they plan on retiring.
Its a case of a great electronics engineer being a very poor businessman.
@@TheMentalblockrock Exactly my thoughts. It happens a lot. Artists, technicians, and scientists rarely have business acumen as well. They say Bill Gates was a notable exception. When he tried to sell Windows to IBM they declined. So he decided to just license it instead. The rest is history, as they say.
He sold the controlling interest to get enough money to expand the business. Banks would only lend at exorbitant interest rates, that's if they would lend at all, so it was the only way to fulfil the increased demand for Vox products. As the documentary shows, Royston then found themselves in trouble after they lost out on the flight recorder contract.
@@chriswareham once you sell a controlling interest, don't put it back in the company for someone else to get rich off of. That's dumb as a hell.
What a great documentary. I learned a lot. I also have some Amateur Radio equipment that was made by the KW company in Kent.