Reminder bc some people seem to need it: people voicing their concerns over children debuting into an overly harsh and critical industry is not an attack on them or you personally.
Me too In the dp Asa, Ruka and Ahyeon stood out to me..haram did pretty well and I love Rora's deep voice. I hope she's being trained well with this voice and technique. And Asa's performance is 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Considering BoA was still just 13 when she debuted and it still seems to be considered the "norm" today, almost 23 years later, I'm not convinced the industry will ever change sadly. I think the best we can hope for is that the companies have learned from previous generations and have support structures in place to be there for the younger members when they need it. As a Blackjack, my faith in YG's ability to do that is somewhat lacking, but I will be very happy to be proved wrong 'cause it's undeniable that these girls are incredibly talented and they deserve a shot. On a more positive note, for me Pharita absolutely blew me away with her performance with Haram in a close second.
Ruka already captured me during the dance video and then her performance came out and reminded me of CL and I was just sold. Potential bias. Same sentiment with some idols debuting so young. I am really hoping YG gives them concept that are appropriate for the younger members and protect them as much as possible.
📌🌟CHIQUIT - 🇹🇭 A was born on February 17, 2009. She is the younger sister of young artist Copper Dechawat Porndechapipat or Copper The Star IDOL. She has been a trainee at YG since mid-year. 2021 (trained for about 1 year and 6 months), after which he debuted as a member of the new girl group BABY MONSTER at the end of the year 2022 🇹🇭 ❤🔥 📌🌟PHARITA 🇹🇭 -17 years old (born August 26, 2005) -Thai nationality -Trained at YG at the end of 2020. - Winner of Street Dance Junior from IDO WORLD DANCE CUPSin Korea -Miss Popular Vote (Miss Teen Thailand 2018) - Talent Kids & Teen 2018 -Asia Junior Fashion Runway 2018 - Grand Prize, Shell International Fashion Show 2019 in China -Cash Asian Pacific Art Fest 2019 -Global Fashion Show 2019🇹🇭❤🔥
“BABY MONSTER” was a concept that YG wants to do for a long time now. And if YG will not debut them now and wait for few more years ,then they will not fit in the concept he was trying to do
21:22 RORA (Lee Dain) of BABYMONSTER - 🇰🇷 - 14 years old - was in a same group with NewJeans' Hyein when they were younger - a low tone vocalist with a husky voice
Good to see your thoughtful review. These girls are not only super talented, they are passionate about their art, highly disciplined, especially the youngest of them, who have been pursuing their goals and accomplished much even before becoming trainees. I get the sense that they are having a great time in each other's company. I can picture them working together on their choreo. I think it would be so unfair to them to tell them they have to wait 2 more years to debut, or that they should debut without the youngest, who will be a very important part of their ensemble. There's a lot of strength when you have a team where all are of this high caliber. Someone pointed out that a phrase in Ruka's rap was "YG 3G" and guessed that this referred to YG's slow pace... if true, it means they're really impatient to get it on! Will there be exploitation or even child abuse? Not unknown in kpop. As you say, everyone should be watching out to see that this doesn't happen. Then there's the stress of being an idol, meeting expectations, beauty standards, intense schedules and all the rest, not to mention the ever-present haters waiting to pounce and disrespect. I don't think it will help lessen the stress to prolong a broad public conversation about whether they are too young. I know that some sports allow child athletes to become professional, but carve out special regulations, like restricting the number of tournaments they can play in a season, making sure they can get a good education, etc.
It's been so hard for them, leaving their homes, countries, families, their friends, learning a new language to communicate, spending their entire childhood training, that I don't understand how many people hate them just for being the next girl group of YG, if the entertainment industry is tough I hope people don't make it worse
I think that the issue - with Kpop - is that there are no legal guardrails. In the U.S., there are laws about how long child actors can work, how they must be treated, insuring that they get their education, etc. Of course, that doesn't always work, but it's far better than it used to be. My opinion, for what it's worth, is that the first step would be to insist upon such laws in S. Korea. Right now, there don't seem to be any regulations protecting these kids from stress, overwork, hate, etc. My hope for Baby Monster is that YG learned from what Blackpink went through and will build a bigger wall around these young women. Plus, I'm sure that the BP members would be available to offer their experience and advice. I agree that it's a tricky balance - you don't want to crush someone's dream, but you don't want to ruin their future either. The best were ever going to do, given the amount of money involved, is to insist on legal protections for child performers and insist on enforcement of same.
Information 1. Name : Shin Haram Nicknames: Haram • 15 years old (born 17 October 07) • Korean nationality • Trained for 6 years (entered YG 2017) • Former child model • she is an actor and model for commercials. • Has a younger brother • she speaks Korean and English • She is good at sports and dancing. 2. Name : Jung Ah-yeon Nicknames: Ah-yeon • 15 years old (born 11 April 07) • Korean nationality • Trained for 4 years (entered YG 2018) • she passed JYP Entertainment and Banana Culture auditions. • she is fluent in Korean, Chinese and English. 3. Name : Riracha Phondechaphiphat (ริรชาพรเดชาพิพัฒน์) Nicknames: Canny, Chikita, Chiquita • 14 years old (born 17 February 09) • Thai Nationality • she speaks Thai, Korean and English • she studied at the Sarasas Witaed Nakhonratchasima School, in Nakhon Ratchasima province. • She is the sister of Copper Dechawat from The Star Idol, Actor and 789 TRAINEE. ( 2006) • she was in the cover group RedRose 4. Name : Enami Asa (榎並杏紗) Nicknames: Asa • 17 years old ( January 06) • Japanese nationality • she did Musical Theatre •Trained for 6/7 years entered YG 2016 / 2017) • she speaks Japanese, Korean and a little bit of English • She participated in LADYBIRD, LADYBIRD Green Musical in 2017. 5. Name : Lee Dain Nicknames: Rora • 14 years old ( born 5 Agustus 08 ) • Korean nationality • She is a USSO Girl member under the name, U.ha. with Hyein NEWJEANS . • speaks Korean, English and a little Chinese. • she appeared in China's Weibo music videos. • participate in international science contests and piano contests. • participated in a student music festival (12th Yulgok Student Music Festival). 6. Name : Pharita Chaikong (ภาริตา ไชยคง) Nicknames: Pharita or Prae • Thai nationality • she's a big fan of anime • speak Thai and English fluently. • she studied at the Ruamrudee International School
• Trained for 2 years old ( entered YG 2020) had several awards before her debut: • Miss Popular Vote ( Miss Teen Thailand 2018 ) • Talent Star International GALA 2018 • International Model Contest 2018 • Asia Junior Fashion Show Runway 2018 • Shine On Stage 2018 • Winner of Street Dance Junior from IDO WORLD DANCE CUPS in Korea • Talent kids & Teen 2018 • Global Fashion Show 2019 • Cash Asian Pasific Art Fest 2019 • Grand Prize, Shell Internasional Fashion Show 2019 in China 7. Name : Kawai Ruka (河井瑠花) Nicknames: Ruka • One more month 21 years old ( born March 20, 02 • Japanese nationality • Trained for ~5 years (entered YG May 2018) • She is a member of the Japanese girl group, Shibu3 Project. • She was under Platinum Production between 2017-2018. • she starred in "Happy Halloween!" Ueda Atsumi's music video • she speaks Japanese, Korean and English. • Oldest in the group
IF YG is targeting the west... the young ages ARE not a factor.. because in Canada and the US it doesnt matter we're used to it over here.. AS long as they have the wow factor and are talented which these girls are insane we will get behind them
Can't wait for your reaction to their "Introducing (member name)"!!!! I hope you react to it here on youtube. You'll get to see more clips of their performances in that video. And you'll also get easily attached to them for how cute and great their personalities are.
I also think some members are too young to debut, but fans can't really do anything but boycott the group and no one wants to do that. You ruin a persons dream, you ruin a group... I hope the company takes responsibility for their decision and protects and supports them the best they can. While things have worked out for Treasures Maknae line, (Junghwan being 13 when YGTB ended. Jeongwoo and Haruto 14) they had the advantage of gradual growth and popularity. BaeMon will be big immediately. The public will be very critical of everything they do and they'll get no room to make mistakes...
my bias opinion 1. ahyeon she is so strong voice and she's swag like a boss 😎🤘... 2. Haram looks so Innocent 😇 , 3 . chiquita she is my line she 17/2/2009 , me 14/12/2009 😆 🥰 no hate lots of love all member's....❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
Your concern of how they would be more in the future if they r already monsters now. Same for treasure, its only been 3 yrs but the boys have marked their place in the artist category. With all the songs they have produced and now their younger sisters will definitely be the same!
8:58 YES!!!! I think you're the first person, besides me, that said that. They sound so similar, her voice is incredible🤌 (also, what's up with Haram's being vocally cracked?!?!) Asa definitively got me floored, like DAMN GIRL OOOOOK POP OFF Rora's voice is soooo smooth! I need her and SAAY to work together
Pharita for me. It was honestly an easy one (for multiple reasons). Second contender is probably Ruka, but we will see. I'm probably not gonna stan them much (at least their first few years) due to the ages but I do admit they are all talented and hope everything goes over well for them.
along with nmixx the babymonster for me are the most complete and talented groups of the fourth generation, the Baemon still stands out for being very very strong in rap and vocal, if these girls are already strong young imagine when they grow up
@Suyash Sarang I agree, Gisele still doesn't have much flow and live diction but I agree with the rest, baby monster's rap line is insane, korean and western rappers themselves so surprised by their technique, it seems underground rappers
@@KpopUnniesUwU vocal new jeans?for me they are so low of many groups, performance I put the baby monster they seem to be expressive and with little presence
@@liglotanana the reason i put New Jeans in the vocal category is becuz they don’t have much rap lines, and they are known most for vocal, but I agreed they still need more time to improve. And for Baby Monster, they are definitely leading in rap, I know they are great in vocal as well as performances, but to pick out one category would be rap.
Talent wise...they are all ready. YGE really can't wait any longer. YG himself asked that we judge Baby Monster by what we see and hear. What I see and hear is omg great. Now YG the ball will be back in your court to make sure YOU use wise judgement in the direction of the group and protect these girls in the toxic world of Kpop. I hope that the girls of BlackPink will also have Baby Monster's back as older sisters. The Pink's experience can be of great help for these new girls.
YG won’t protect anyone. Thats the sad reality, also im not talking about you here but i freakin’ hate it when people compare them to Blackpink… This is a new group, not Blackpink 2.0
@@Elenea__21 especially considering teddy isn't producing their music. Teddy is even releasing his own gg at some point, and I would assume that group will be similar to bp. People keep thinking that baemon will have similar vibes but with different producers and stuff, we just don't know.
@@Elenea__21 given to their age. The comparison of bp and bp wont be a big issue esp when the members are involve with bm. Theres even speculation that jennie might try to be one of the producer for bm..cause why not
The best we can do, as bystanders to the harsh k-pop industry, is to do our best to prevent hate, especially when it’s because of weight shifts or eating habits.
It is a difficult but if you also see how good they are especially CHIQUITA w/ stage presence? (at her age like this topic) Like you said, they are young but they can make their dreams happen despite their age. In the same fact, if you were in their place and that they have to wait more before debutting just because of when they were born. It kinda sucks. Idk if you watched the Last Evaluations and Introducing Videos cuz I don't see it in this BABYMONSTER playlist. This video is a year ago anyway lol but knowing what they view this debut as ahaha. the determination others don't even have at whatever age. We really just gotta protect them cuz that's what we CAN do T-T - REI from IVE mention wooo it's so true tho. two of the rappers in BAEMON are both Japanese xD - YG really be YG. me hearing that as a YG stan since BIGBANG and 2NE1? they're honestly better with other things like the usual
It's still crazy to me that the maknae is my age. I never thought in my three years of being a Kpop fan that some my age would debut so soon. Anyways they are all really talented and so far my potential biases are Ahyeon, Asa and Pharita. EDIT: Also idk if you know but Rora is friends with NWJNS Hyein.
You should react to their introduction videos and their character playlist on the BABYMONSTER's official channel It gives you more information about them and I think you would like it
If I am YG myself or any upper position in YG and seeing these kids/teens talents, I probably be also not minding their age. Yes, it is kind of exploiting them. But the mere fact that being able to debut as an idol is their girls wanted when they are still young (yeah technically they are still young today 😅) I will make it happen considering how talented they already are at this young age. That is what the girls wants and their parents supported them. That is why their names really suits them "BABYmonster". Lol. Also, BaeMon members are not the only idols who debuted this early. Actually, even in 2nd gen. and in first gen. there are already minors that debuted as an idol. So, I guess it is kind of got normalize, tho it shouldn't be. Probably, why YG said to their introduction to BaeMon that we should judge this group through what we sees and hears.
As a parent I think the argument goes both ways. What if your daughter is THAT talented and wants to be in the indistry? Is it right to hold them down and take away their dream to ‘protect’ them? I don’t think there is a good or right answer to this. Answer will be different on every single individual.
I get it what you're saying with ages but believe me if you have such gems at such young ages doing what they're doing you'll prolly debuting way younger, lol But all this aside, this is the group that I've seen probably the most completed overall, from vocalists to dancing to Rapping to Visuals, Babymonster has it all. Eagerly waiting for their debut.
Personally hoping what happened with nmixx wont happen with baby monster bcus both pre debut content was so good. Also its concerning how young they are because of how harsh the industry is no one is hating on them by talking about their age + we all know how sexualized they might become it is not hate its genuine concern. My problem is how people will be worried over their age but then 4months into their career they wont care at all. That happened with New jeans, leeseo, and classy. The maknae of baby monster will be the same age as new jeans and classy maknaes when they debut (a few months after their 14th birthday) but look at the fanbase now no one talks about that. The kpop industry has and will always debut 14 year olds its a horrible thing but its something we cannot stop but we can talk about it. I wish people would stay consistent on their opinion of underaged idols but as we know a few months after their debut no one will care about Chiquita's age I just wish the people who are going to do that would not act like they have a problem with it if theyre just gonna switch up in a few months. Anyways the girls are really talented the age gap between the youngest and oldest member is also interesting (20 and 13 developmentally is an age gap when theyre older it wont feel like that but rn to me thats a gap) but Im so glad theyre debuting Ruka bcus some companies literally stop after they turn 20 as of rn I think shes my top 3 bias's but not sure will have to wait for their debut
I don't fully agree with the debuting of super young idols but I will say that baby monster members are extremely talented and strong vocally and rap wise. Ruka has a lot of stage presence but could do with some work on pronunciation too.
Yeah. Because of this little snippet of the members' skill level, the burden of making their debut successful falls on the shoulders of the producers mostly. How can they blame it on the girls now, when all these pre-debut clips are absolute hits.
They are ready. They can't hold Baemon anymore because there's been leaks abt them yearssss before + if they delay it more some fans will leave just like what happened in TRS and maybe some members might leave.
I think disney has shown us all that introducing children into this type of world is not such a good idea, and kpop is like even more harsh so I get it, but at the same time bcs this industry is so competitive, maybe if YG didn't debut chiquita bcs of her age, she wouldn't be able to debut later on, she is good but even yedam had to stick to the company timing. And this is not just YG, is every company, they wont care about the age of a person if they think she/he can be profitable bcs anyways, the younger, the longer they can be in the industry, just look at queen IU
They have a supposed 4th gen who also trained for many years but maybe YG was not that satisfied so he didnt debut them and still looked for more trainees. Even the thai line was newer trainees in YG but debut them.
I think they're subjected to incredibly difficult and harsh industries from a young and very impressionable age. I think a not insignificant amount of them end up struggling with mental illnesses, drug and alcohol addictions, eating disorders and more by the time they reach their late teens/early adulthood. And I think some of them are absolutely fine. Same as with idols. But here's the thing, in this video I'm not talking about child actors/models. I'm talking about idols. Because I'm a kpop fan. Yes there's every possibility that young idols grow up with zero issues and that's great. Yes adult idols can end up experiencing those things regardless of the age they debut. But if I were a parent would I want my kid exposed to harsh critiques from the industry and fans alike? Would I want them to be sexualised before they've even finished going through puberty? No I wouldn't. I'm not gonna fight every fight and comment on every difficult and complex issue in the world because that's exhausting. But this is something I can and will continue to comment on because it's directly in line with something I have a vested interest in. If you don't have an issue that's your deal, you do what you feel is right. Continuing this conversation is what *I* feel is right and I hope people will respect that. I went on a tangent there but you get it lmao
People act like they forced to sing. All members gave audition, trained for years and finally have their debut. People who have problems with age are usually the one who think of them as objects of entertainment ( like looks, and being cute) and not as a artists who sings. Nobody thought about Billie eilish age when she releases her first song, people who liked it listenerd to it. There was no talk like she is good but she is young so I will not listen to her music.
3:42 I'd say voice our concern isn't the best thing to do. When voicing our concerns but still consuming the content (and therefor giving the companies what they want, money), it shows that it doesnt really matter for them whether they debut kids or adults. The best thing to do would be to boycott those debuts. Yes they already are gonna debut and there's nothing we can do about it, but if they are succesful, more minors will be debuted in the future because companies find out they can get away with it. The idols already debuted that are literal kids can disband and redebut when they are older, it's not like if their group now doesn't do well they have no chance in the industry ever again. But we as kpop fans should consider that with every stream and every bought album we are showing that it'll be a good idea for companies to debut these young kids, making it more and more normalized and also more harmful for these still developing kids to grow up in that industry
While to an extent I do agree with you, I don't think that approach is realistic for this group. Because they're from YG. Maybe if they were coming from a smaller company, sure you could perhaps rally enough people to boycott in a way that would make an impact but the fact is, people are gonna pay attention to them because they're YG, they're gonna support them because they're talented and from YG, they're gonna stream the music because they'll be intrigued because they're YG and this is their first girl group in almost 7 years. If people decide to boycott then all the power to them, I don't blame them. But to think that that's gonna make a dent on YG enough to shelve the group and maybe they re-debut later down the line? Very very very slim chance. When I say the best we can do is voice our concern and keep the conversation going, I'm not talking about stopping BabyMonster's debut. I'm talking about maybe eventually the conversation being loud enough that in the future we see a shift and a change. This is not something that's going to happen soon. We're gonna keep seeing kids debut and people are gonna keep supporting the groups because damn those kids are talented. It's happened for literal decades at this point and it will keep happening. And we as fans have to keep shouting about it. And yes if possible, boycott. But I highly doubt a boycott will impact this group's career in the slightest
@@SafeCave I do agree that with YG as well as with Hybe with New Jeans it's not realistic, but I do think talking about the idea of boycotting a debut is good cause it gives people the idea for future debuts from smaller companies that can be prevented. I think the most important thing though is like you said, keeping those who do debut and aren't gonna be shelfed safe from the hate and from predatory "fans"
@@Thil you are concerned about something that doesn't affect you anyway. You can choose not to listen to their music, but it appears you are obsessed since you are watching reaction videos about them. The hate you talking about, you are a part of it.
@@movieedits1017 no actually, I'm just a fan of Kaia's videos and saw she posted about them, so I wanted to hear her thoughts on it. No need to tell me I'm obsessed and that it doesn't concern me, the well-being of kids and them being exploited is something to be concerned about and I can wonder what a person I like online thinks about the situation
@@movieedits1017 also yes me commenting on 1 video where I mention my concern is hate. Criticism of systems in the kpop industry and bullying idols aren't the same thing, and the fact you instantly assumed I am obsessed and hating on these girls shows me you are not open to any actual meaningful discussion about the topic
Those aren't even the actual lyrics. There are a couple of lyric videos based on the song she covered and the only reason it sounds like that is cuz she has a slight lisp or accent.
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Reminder bc some people seem to need it: people voicing their concerns over children debuting into an overly harsh and critical industry is not an attack on them or you personally.
Ruka gives SO MUCH pre-debut hyunsuk vibes its actually insane lol
It's very YGish
i was thinking the same 😅
Rora's voice is so lit. How can others not love it? Myghad.
Exactly right???? Rora became the best vocalist in 4th gen for me.
Because it's sooo unique and difficult to find in Korean industry
@@_kim00006 i guess its harder to find people that has similar voice with haram and pharita than rora.
This is just a living proof that there are lot of monsters in YG's dungeon. Literal Talented monsters.
that's why it's called a dungeon 😂😂😂
You're the second reactor i have seen that watched Asa's part a second time 👏...I was really blown away by her performance 🔥🔥
im so excited for them theyre all insanely talented my top 3 atm are Asa, Ahyeon and Rora for potential bias and Pharita is a huge contender 🙂
This Group is insane so much at their young age.
Baby Monster is the badass group with multitalented skills, they will surprise the world 🔥🔥🔥😍😍😍💯💯
Rora has really so much potential in her voice😭❤
Me too
In the dp Asa, Ruka and Ahyeon stood out to me..haram did pretty well and I love Rora's deep voice. I hope she's being trained well with this voice and technique. And Asa's performance is 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
i just find it finny how the youngest name is “chiquita” which in spanish can mean young/small and the oldest is “ruka” which means old lol
i know freaking right. i think it wasnt the coincidence lol
@@TT-dk1mc spanish ^^
Considering BoA was still just 13 when she debuted and it still seems to be considered the "norm" today, almost 23 years later, I'm not convinced the industry will ever change sadly. I think the best we can hope for is that the companies have learned from previous generations and have support structures in place to be there for the younger members when they need it. As a Blackjack, my faith in YG's ability to do that is somewhat lacking, but I will be very happy to be proved wrong 'cause it's undeniable that these girls are incredibly talented and they deserve a shot.
On a more positive note, for me Pharita absolutely blew me away with her performance with Haram in a close second.
The first group ever which depends thier concept in talent skills not any like girlcrush or any other ....definetly gonna blow when release ..
Ruka already captured me during the dance video and then her performance came out and reminded me of CL and I was just sold. Potential bias. Same sentiment with some idols debuting so young. I am really hoping YG gives them concept that are appropriate for the younger members and protect them as much as possible.
Ruka's bonus
Stage presence
Main dancer
Gesture and vibe in rap
She will be the best in stage along with all members 💗🛐
📌🌟CHIQUIT - 🇹🇭 A was born on February 17, 2009. She is the younger sister of young artist Copper Dechawat Porndechapipat or Copper The Star IDOL. She has been a trainee at YG since mid-year. 2021 (trained for about 1 year and 6 months), after which he debuted as a member of the new girl group BABY MONSTER at the end of the year 2022 🇹🇭 ❤🔥
📌🌟PHARITA 🇹🇭 -17 years old (born August 26, 2005) -Thai nationality -Trained at YG at the end of 2020. - Winner of Street Dance Junior from IDO WORLD DANCE CUPSin Korea -Miss Popular Vote (Miss Teen Thailand 2018) - Talent Kids & Teen 2018 -Asia Junior Fashion Runway 2018 - Grand Prize, Shell International Fashion Show 2019 in China -Cash Asian Pacific Art Fest 2019 -Global Fashion Show 2019🇹🇭❤🔥
i swear the wagwan part was hilarious😂
Asa, Ruka, and Rora tho. Potential biases ❤️
“BABY MONSTER” was a concept that YG wants to do for a long time now. And if YG will not debut them now and wait for few more years ,then they will not fit in the concept he was trying to do
I love Rora's tone so much!
ASA and RUKA are going to be it for me, and CHIQUITA seems to have the best high voice
Rora❤️💯
21:22 RORA (Lee Dain) of BABYMONSTER
- 🇰🇷
- 14 years old
- was in a same group with NewJeans' Hyein when they were younger
- a low tone vocalist with a husky voice
Good to see your thoughtful review. These girls are not only super talented, they are passionate about their art, highly disciplined, especially the youngest of them, who have been pursuing their goals and accomplished much even before becoming trainees. I get the sense that they are having a great time in each other's company. I can picture them working together on their choreo. I think it would be so unfair to them to tell them they have to wait 2 more years to debut, or that they should debut without the youngest, who will be a very important part of their ensemble. There's a lot of strength when you have a team where all are of this high caliber.
Someone pointed out that a phrase in Ruka's rap was "YG 3G" and guessed that this referred to YG's slow pace... if true, it means they're really impatient to get it on!
Will there be exploitation or even child abuse? Not unknown in kpop. As you say, everyone should be watching out to see that this doesn't happen. Then there's the stress of being an idol, meeting expectations, beauty standards, intense schedules and all the rest, not to mention the ever-present haters waiting to pounce and disrespect. I don't think it will help lessen the stress to prolong a broad public conversation about whether they are too young.
I know that some sports allow child athletes to become professional, but carve out special regulations, like restricting the number of tournaments they can play in a season, making sure they can get a good education, etc.
It's been so hard for them, leaving their homes, countries, families, their friends, learning a new language to communicate, spending their entire childhood training, that I don't understand how many people hate them just for being the next girl group of YG, if the entertainment industry is tough I hope people don't make it worse
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I think that the issue - with Kpop - is that there are no legal guardrails. In the U.S., there are laws about how long child actors can work, how they must be treated, insuring that they get their education, etc. Of course, that doesn't always work, but it's far better than it used to be.
My opinion, for what it's worth, is that the first step would be to insist upon such laws in S. Korea. Right now, there don't seem to be any regulations protecting these kids from stress, overwork, hate, etc. My hope for Baby Monster is that YG learned from what Blackpink went through and will build a bigger wall around these young women. Plus, I'm sure that the BP members would be available to offer their experience and advice.
I agree that it's a tricky balance - you don't want to crush someone's dream, but you don't want to ruin their future either. The best were ever going to do, given the amount of money involved, is to insist on legal protections for child performers and insist on enforcement of same.
Information
1. Name : Shin Haram
Nicknames: Haram
• 15 years old (born 17 October 07)
• Korean nationality
• Trained for 6 years (entered YG 2017)
• Former child model
• she is an actor and model for commercials.
• Has a younger brother
• she speaks Korean and English
• She is good at sports and dancing.
2. Name : Jung Ah-yeon
Nicknames: Ah-yeon
• 15 years old (born 11 April 07)
• Korean nationality
• Trained for 4 years (entered YG 2018)
• she passed JYP Entertainment and Banana Culture auditions.
• she is fluent in Korean, Chinese and English.
3. Name : Riracha Phondechaphiphat (ริรชาพรเดชาพิพัฒน์)
Nicknames: Canny, Chikita, Chiquita
• 14 years old (born 17 February 09)
• Thai Nationality
• she speaks Thai, Korean and English
• she studied at the Sarasas Witaed Nakhonratchasima School, in Nakhon Ratchasima province.
• She is the sister of Copper Dechawat from The Star Idol, Actor and 789 TRAINEE. ( 2006)
• she was in the cover group RedRose
4. Name : Enami Asa (榎並杏紗)
Nicknames: Asa
• 17 years old ( January 06)
• Japanese nationality
• she did Musical Theatre
•Trained for 6/7 years entered YG 2016 / 2017)
• she speaks Japanese, Korean and a little bit of English
• She participated in LADYBIRD, LADYBIRD Green Musical in 2017.
5. Name : Lee Dain
Nicknames: Rora
• 14 years old ( born 5 Agustus 08 )
• Korean nationality
• She is a USSO Girl member under the name, U.ha. with Hyein NEWJEANS .
• speaks Korean, English and a little Chinese.
• she appeared in China's Weibo music videos.
• participate in international science contests and piano contests.
• participated in a student music festival (12th Yulgok Student Music Festival).
6. Name : Pharita Chaikong (ภาริตา ไชยคง)
Nicknames: Pharita or Prae
• Thai nationality
• she's a big fan of anime
• speak Thai and English fluently.
• she studied at the Ruamrudee International School
• Trained for 2 years old ( entered YG 2020)
had several awards before her debut:
• Miss Popular Vote ( Miss Teen Thailand 2018 )
• Talent Star International GALA 2018
• International Model Contest 2018
• Asia Junior Fashion Show Runway 2018
• Shine On Stage 2018
• Winner of Street Dance Junior from IDO WORLD DANCE CUPS in Korea
• Talent kids & Teen 2018
• Global Fashion Show 2019
• Cash Asian Pasific Art Fest 2019
• Grand Prize, Shell Internasional Fashion Show 2019 in China
7. Name : Kawai Ruka (河井瑠花)
Nicknames: Ruka
• One more month 21 years old ( born March 20, 02
• Japanese nationality
• Trained for ~5 years (entered YG May 2018)
• She is a member of the Japanese girl group, Shibu3 Project.
• She was under Platinum Production between 2017-2018.
• she starred in "Happy Halloween!" Ueda Atsumi's music video
• she speaks Japanese, Korean and English.
• Oldest in the group
IF YG is targeting the west... the young ages ARE not a factor.. because in Canada and the US it doesnt matter we're used to it over here.. AS long as they have the wow factor and are talented which these girls are insane we will get behind them
Can't wait for your reaction to their "Introducing (member name)"!!!! I hope you react to it here on youtube. You'll get to see more clips of their performances in that video. And you'll also get easily attached to them for how cute and great their personalities are.
I also think some members are too young to debut, but fans can't really do anything but boycott the group and no one wants to do that. You ruin a persons dream, you ruin a group...
I hope the company takes responsibility for their decision and protects and supports them the best they can.
While things have worked out for Treasures Maknae line, (Junghwan being 13 when YGTB ended. Jeongwoo and Haruto 14) they had the advantage of gradual growth and popularity. BaeMon will be big immediately.
The public will be very critical of everything they do and they'll get no room to make mistakes...
my bias opinion 1. ahyeon she is so strong voice and she's swag like a boss 😎🤘... 2. Haram looks so Innocent 😇 , 3 . chiquita she is my line she 17/2/2009 , me 14/12/2009 😆 🥰 no hate lots of love all member's....❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
Your concern of how they would be more in the future if they r already monsters now. Same for treasure, its only been 3 yrs but the boys have marked their place in the artist category. With all the songs they have produced and now their younger sisters will definitely be the same!
8:58 YES!!!! I think you're the first person, besides me, that said that. They sound so similar, her voice is incredible🤌 (also, what's up with Haram's being vocally cracked?!?!)
Asa definitively got me floored, like DAMN GIRL OOOOOK POP OFF
Rora's voice is soooo smooth! I need her and SAAY to work together
Pharita for me. It was honestly an easy one (for multiple reasons). Second contender is probably Ruka, but we will see.
I'm probably not gonna stan them much (at least their first few years) due to the ages but I do admit they are all talented and hope everything goes over well for them.
Roraaa 😭😭❤️
along with nmixx the babymonster for me are the most complete and talented groups of the fourth generation, the Baemon still stands out for being very very strong in rap and vocal, if these girls are already strong young imagine when they grow up
@Suyash Sarang I agree, Gisele still doesn't have much flow and live diction but I agree with the rest, baby monster's rap line is insane, korean and western rappers themselves so surprised by their technique, it seems underground rappers
Vocal leading: AESPA, NewJeans, NMIXX, BabyMonster
Performance leading: IVE, STAYC, KEP1ER
Dance leading: ITZY, LE SSERAFIM
Rap leading: (G)I-DLE, Baby Monster, XG
@@KpopUnniesUwU vocal new jeans?for me they are so low of many groups, performance I put the baby monster they seem to be expressive and with little presence
@@liglotanana the reason i put New Jeans in the vocal category is becuz they don’t have much rap lines, and they are known most for vocal, but I agreed they still need more time to improve. And for Baby Monster, they are definitely leading in rap, I know they are great in vocal as well as performances, but to pick out one category would be rap.
@@KpopUnniesUwU it's not because they don't have a rap line that I would put as fourth generation vocals, StayC purple kiss so much better vocals
Talent wise...they are all ready. YGE really can't wait any longer. YG himself asked that we judge Baby Monster by what we see and hear. What I see and hear is omg great. Now YG the ball will be back in your court to make sure YOU use wise judgement in the direction of the group and protect these girls in the toxic world of Kpop. I hope that the girls of BlackPink will also have Baby Monster's back as older sisters. The Pink's experience can be of great help for these new girls.
I mean as you can see Lisa and Jennie helping them train to Lisa going out with Thai members to eat out looks like they have their back
YG won’t protect anyone. Thats the sad reality, also im not talking about you here but i freakin’ hate it when people compare them to Blackpink… This is a new group, not Blackpink 2.0
@@Elenea__21 especially considering teddy isn't producing their music. Teddy is even releasing his own gg at some point, and I would assume that group will be similar to bp. People keep thinking that baemon will have similar vibes but with different producers and stuff, we just don't know.
@@Elenea__21 given to their age. The comparison of bp and bp wont be a big issue esp when the members are involve with bm. Theres even speculation that jennie might try to be one of the producer for bm..cause why not
The best we can do, as bystanders to the harsh k-pop industry, is to do our best to prevent hate, especially when it’s because of weight shifts or eating habits.
It is a difficult but if you also see how good they are especially CHIQUITA w/ stage presence? (at her age like this topic) Like you said, they are young but they can make their dreams happen despite their age. In the same fact, if you were in their place and that they have to wait more before debutting just because of when they were born. It kinda sucks.
Idk if you watched the Last Evaluations and Introducing Videos cuz I don't see it in this BABYMONSTER playlist. This video is a year ago anyway lol but knowing what they view this debut as ahaha. the determination others don't even have at whatever age. We really just gotta protect them cuz that's what we CAN do T-T
- REI from IVE mention wooo it's so true tho. two of the rappers in BAEMON are both Japanese xD
- YG really be YG. me hearing that as a YG stan since BIGBANG and 2NE1? they're honestly better with other things like the usual
There is no competition of new jeans right now but they definitely will be
Asa's def my fav
It's still crazy to me that the maknae is my age. I never thought in my three years of being a Kpop fan that some my age would debut so soon. Anyways they are all really talented and so far my potential biases are Ahyeon, Asa and Pharita.
EDIT: Also idk if you know but Rora is friends with NWJNS Hyein.
im tbh not suprised by the ages, like there are other groups like new jeans and stuff that have even yunger members
You should react to their introduction videos and their character playlist on the BABYMONSTER's official channel
It gives you more information about them and I think you would like it
Dance performance is from 2 years ago when the thai members hadn't joined yet
Age: 🤷😱🤔
Talent: 😱😎🔥
If I am YG myself or any upper position in YG and seeing these kids/teens talents, I probably be also not minding their age. Yes, it is kind of exploiting them. But the mere fact that being able to debut as an idol is their girls wanted when they are still young (yeah technically they are still young today 😅) I will make it happen considering how talented they already are at this young age. That is what the girls wants and their parents supported them. That is why their names really suits them "BABYmonster". Lol. Also, BaeMon members are not the only idols who debuted this early. Actually, even in 2nd gen. and in first gen. there are already minors that debuted as an idol. So, I guess it is kind of got normalize, tho it shouldn't be. Probably, why YG said to their introduction to BaeMon that we should judge this group through what we sees and hears.
As a parent I think the argument goes both ways. What if your daughter is THAT talented and wants to be in the indistry? Is it right to hold them down and take away their dream to ‘protect’ them? I don’t think there is a good or right answer to this. Answer will be different on every single individual.
I get it what you're saying with ages but believe me if you have such gems at such young ages doing what they're doing you'll prolly debuting way younger, lol
But all this aside, this is the group that I've seen probably the most completed overall, from vocalists to dancing to Rapping to Visuals, Babymonster has it all.
Eagerly waiting for their debut.
Yes i agree Haram voice is remind me of Seoyeon from Fromis_9, they both has a beautiful unique voice
Personally hoping what happened with nmixx wont happen with baby monster bcus both pre debut content was so good. Also its concerning how young they are because of how harsh the industry is no one is hating on them by talking about their age + we all know how sexualized they might become it is not hate its genuine concern. My problem is how people will be worried over their age but then 4months into their career they wont care at all. That happened with New jeans, leeseo, and classy. The maknae of baby monster will be the same age as new jeans and classy maknaes when they debut (a few months after their 14th birthday) but look at the fanbase now no one talks about that. The kpop industry has and will always debut 14 year olds its a horrible thing but its something we cannot stop but we can talk about it. I wish people would stay consistent on their opinion of underaged idols but as we know a few months after their debut no one will care about Chiquita's age I just wish the people who are going to do that would not act like they have a problem with it if theyre just gonna switch up in a few months. Anyways the girls are really talented the age gap between the youngest and oldest member is also interesting (20 and 13 developmentally is an age gap when theyre older it wont feel like that but rn to me thats a gap) but Im so glad theyre debuting Ruka bcus some companies literally stop after they turn 20 as of rn I think shes my top 3 bias's but not sure will have to wait for their debut
Thx for your honesty re age etc...
I don't fully agree with the debuting of super young idols but I will say that baby monster members are extremely talented and strong vocally and rap wise. Ruka has a lot of stage presence but could do with some work on pronunciation too.
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Yeah. Because of this little snippet of the members' skill level, the burden of making their debut successful falls on the shoulders of the producers mostly. How can they blame it on the girls now, when all these pre-debut clips are absolute hits.
ruka is the main dancer and main rapper
Just because you watch a training video does not mean that they are the same age today. Its called recording people.
So we are going to watch them growing up and puberty hits like NCT Dream.
They are ready. They can't hold Baemon anymore because there's been leaks abt them yearssss before + if they delay it more some fans will leave just like what happened in TRS and maybe some members might leave.
Girl has taste
asa and haram are my favs too
yeahh uri main vocalist and main rapper. They are my bias tooooo
2NE1 v3.0? Mebbe. Very impressive so far.
Don't worry about their age ...YG "coming soon " is means next year 🤣🤣🤣
dance style reminds of the jabbawockeez
I think disney has shown us all that introducing children into this type of world is not such a good idea, and kpop is like even more harsh so I get it, but at the same time bcs this industry is so competitive, maybe if YG didn't debut chiquita bcs of her age, she wouldn't be able to debut later on, she is good but even yedam had to stick to the company timing. And this is not just YG, is every company, they wont care about the age of a person if they think she/he can be profitable bcs anyways, the younger, the longer they can be in the industry, just look at queen IU
They have a supposed 4th gen who also trained for many years but maybe YG was not that satisfied so he didnt debut them and still looked for more trainees. Even the thai line was newer trainees in YG but debut them.
Thai line was never trainess in YG? Is this confirmed? How can they debuted idols without training them under the label? 😭
@@user-jx9oi1xw4b The thai line are the last trainees in Baby monster to join.
@@user-jx9oi1xw4b Newer not Never
I think in a group this big, only the youngest couple of members should be under 18. And I don't think any of them should be under 16
Yaaah kinda agree on seoyeon somehow sounds they'll have yg technique/ style 🤍
Ikr
Anyone know whats the title of Asa sang?
I hope we see some interactions between them and NewJeans since 2 of them know each other.
What's your opinion on child actors /models?
I think they're subjected to incredibly difficult and harsh industries from a young and very impressionable age. I think a not insignificant amount of them end up struggling with mental illnesses, drug and alcohol addictions, eating disorders and more by the time they reach their late teens/early adulthood. And I think some of them are absolutely fine. Same as with idols. But here's the thing, in this video I'm not talking about child actors/models. I'm talking about idols. Because I'm a kpop fan. Yes there's every possibility that young idols grow up with zero issues and that's great. Yes adult idols can end up experiencing those things regardless of the age they debut. But if I were a parent would I want my kid exposed to harsh critiques from the industry and fans alike? Would I want them to be sexualised before they've even finished going through puberty? No I wouldn't. I'm not gonna fight every fight and comment on every difficult and complex issue in the world because that's exhausting. But this is something I can and will continue to comment on because it's directly in line with something I have a vested interest in. If you don't have an issue that's your deal, you do what you feel is right. Continuing this conversation is what *I* feel is right and I hope people will respect that. I went on a tangent there but you get it lmao
Just let them do their thing, at least they're not a little toddlers
People act like they forced to sing.
All members gave audition, trained for years and finally have their debut.
People who have problems with age are usually the one who think of them as objects of entertainment ( like looks, and being cute) and not as a artists who sings.
Nobody thought about Billie eilish age when she releases her first song, people who liked it listenerd to it. There was no talk like she is good but she is young so I will not listen to her music.
babies offcam monsters on stage ..
check Japanese rappers of Treasure. Haruto and Yoshi
3:42 I'd say voice our concern isn't the best thing to do. When voicing our concerns but still consuming the content (and therefor giving the companies what they want, money), it shows that it doesnt really matter for them whether they debut kids or adults. The best thing to do would be to boycott those debuts. Yes they already are gonna debut and there's nothing we can do about it, but if they are succesful, more minors will be debuted in the future because companies find out they can get away with it. The idols already debuted that are literal kids can disband and redebut when they are older, it's not like if their group now doesn't do well they have no chance in the industry ever again. But we as kpop fans should consider that with every stream and every bought album we are showing that it'll be a good idea for companies to debut these young kids, making it more and more normalized and also more harmful for these still developing kids to grow up in that industry
While to an extent I do agree with you, I don't think that approach is realistic for this group. Because they're from YG. Maybe if they were coming from a smaller company, sure you could perhaps rally enough people to boycott in a way that would make an impact but the fact is, people are gonna pay attention to them because they're YG, they're gonna support them because they're talented and from YG, they're gonna stream the music because they'll be intrigued because they're YG and this is their first girl group in almost 7 years. If people decide to boycott then all the power to them, I don't blame them. But to think that that's gonna make a dent on YG enough to shelve the group and maybe they re-debut later down the line? Very very very slim chance. When I say the best we can do is voice our concern and keep the conversation going, I'm not talking about stopping BabyMonster's debut. I'm talking about maybe eventually the conversation being loud enough that in the future we see a shift and a change. This is not something that's going to happen soon. We're gonna keep seeing kids debut and people are gonna keep supporting the groups because damn those kids are talented. It's happened for literal decades at this point and it will keep happening. And we as fans have to keep shouting about it. And yes if possible, boycott. But I highly doubt a boycott will impact this group's career in the slightest
@@SafeCave I do agree that with YG as well as with Hybe with New Jeans it's not realistic, but I do think talking about the idea of boycotting a debut is good cause it gives people the idea for future debuts from smaller companies that can be prevented.
I think the most important thing though is like you said, keeping those who do debut and aren't gonna be shelfed safe from the hate and from predatory "fans"
@@Thil you are concerned about something that doesn't affect you anyway.
You can choose not to listen to their music, but it appears you are obsessed since you are watching reaction videos about them.
The hate you talking about, you are a part of it.
@@movieedits1017 no actually, I'm just a fan of Kaia's videos and saw she posted about them, so I wanted to hear her thoughts on it. No need to tell me I'm obsessed and that it doesn't concern me, the well-being of kids and them being exploited is something to be concerned about and I can wonder what a person I like online thinks about the situation
@@movieedits1017 also yes me commenting on 1 video where I mention my concern is hate. Criticism of systems in the kpop industry and bullying idols aren't the same thing, and the fact you instantly assumed I am obsessed and hating on these girls shows me you are not open to any actual meaningful discussion about the topic
The lyrics at 17:05 are ‘getting ate out’ bro someone needs to double check the song choices wtf
Those aren't even the actual lyrics. There are a couple of lyric videos based on the song she covered and the only reason it sounds like that is cuz she has a slight lisp or accent.
@@mangovasco3296 ah right well that’s good then