r/RecruitingHell | unfortunately, we are looking for someone better.
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I will never ever tire of Robin venting his frustrations about employers. I appreciate his honest takes on things, and frankly, the man's just funny. I wonder what video he'll be posting on his channel this week...
I love him ranting about anything in general.
Petition to rename Robin to 'Rantin'
@@EmKaythe council approves it
I wouldn't consider someone injecting their political opinion into every single video "funny"
@@EmKayLMAO
I once applied for a job that required 8+ years experience with a programming language.
Trouble was, that language had been available for only about 3 years at the time...
Stuff like that seems to be either to hire internally or HR just increasing the numbers given by the department.
@@evanchismark3092 I've worked HR. The reason for this, HR is specifically told to disqualify *ALL* candidates. The job doesn't actually exist. It's simply a resume farm to feed the resume AI the company is having internally. They are just wanting more data for the AI training. ITs sick.
@@kannonpq
Resume AI? What the fuck?
@@michaelgum97 These have existed in various forms for years. Back in the day big firms would scan paper CVs using optical character recognition against a list of key words and then read the 10% or so that came out. The key words could change. They still do this with electronic CVs but LLM AIs let them look at 'sentiment' scores, etc. as well as just the isolated words, so they can score each CV against a percentage.
Training the LLM AI is part of that, so they need a stack of data. You guessed it, they're not actually hiring, they just want applications to process and train the LLM.
Americans companies will set unachievable standards, make miserable working conditions, not pay workers enough, make hiring and keeping your job a complete pain to do, and than they have the audacity to pretend young people are just lazy and don't want to work as if they're not the problem.
As a non American this is utterly amazing and horrific.
I got denied an internship that would've paid 18$ an hour (really good where I live compared to my current pay at 11$ an hour) that I OVERqualified for because "you're not in an associates degree program or a junior/senior student in college. I'm technically a junior, I'm going to college part time, WITHOUT student loans, and I've worked the same job with more requirements before. Oh also in regards to the associates degree, I'm in an associates degree but didn't know if I'd like it or if I'd change to a longer degree path later on.
As an American, employers are bs and job searching is in fact horrific.
I had a judge increase my sentence because he was convinced it was easy to get a job the day you started looking, and only "criminals who don't want to work" are unemployed. I am disabled, and need strong opiates to even go to the bathroom.
it will bite the US in the ass soon.
@@circeciernova1712they were probably over the age of 60 huh?
Holy shit you hit the nail on the head lol
I so desperately want a reality show where boomers are forced to look for work in today's market
I need this
Not a show. But I'll give you a recent example. My pop got bored of retirement and wanted to do something simple to fill his day. Hes a simple man, but a good man..(sorta) He applied for 13 volunteer job positions. Not a single call back. Though tbf they may have emailed him and hes only heard of emails. Not ever had one.
@CT-yc4gd yep. My dad looked for something full-time for the insurance after he quit his teaching job and he applied to dozens of places with a master's degree and 30 years of experience working. Most ghosted him or rejected him anyway. I mean. Jesus. If someone with a MASTER'S DEGREE and multiple decades of work experience still has to struggle to get hired, then something has gone terribly wrong in the job market.
They were scared of him. He knows his worth.@@the13throse
My least favourite thing a boomer can say to a younger person who is trying to apply for jobs is "You just gotta keep hitting the pavement" and insist you need to get a paper application in order to get hired, the concept of everything being paperless and online makes them think You, the person applying is lazy.
My parents tried to make me do the same thing after I graduated college as a certified primary care paramedic, I was going to apply online (obviously) to the ems service that services my area, my parents insisted I go to their headquarters in person and give them my resume. My parents, despite both of them having worked in senior management positions until retirement, insisted that despite how everything is online, I should go in and give them a paper copy of my resume. Anyways, I shut them down very quickly, and applied online, got the job.
I work retail and a lady gave me a paper application. I gave it to my boss and she got so annoyed
@@alexanderthoms6704
How did you shut them down?
I had to explain to my dad that that'll get you blacklisted from most jobs these days. He didn't believe me until I showed him, first hand, that it was true.
i've had 6 jobs over the past decade- paper apps were the common denominator. (restaurant work). online applications just don't do it. i applied at target twice- that process took like 2 hours each because invasive questionnaire- immediately rejected both times (at least i knew i was rejected right away freeing me from further anxiety as per that app)
as a delivery driver, i sometimes make more than my mom who's in accounting for over 30 years... by delivering pizzas...
A job listing putting "back injury" in quotation marks like that tells me that it's physically demanding work where you're not going to be given the right gear for the job and they will 100% fight tooth and nail to not pay for medical leave when repetitive strain injuries inevitably happen.
Almost guaranteed they'll just fire you for "underperforming" too. (Been there done that).
6:58
Even worse than that tattoo thing is the way they treat back injuries like a conspiracy theory. 100% going to have you handling loads in unsafe ways, and blame you when it destroys your body.
Well of course they are, worker's comp is expensive for the company you know. If they can make sure that people can't definitely pin the injury to something at work then they can make it a lot harder for someone to claim worker's comp which saves the company money.
The job I'm in now dangerously loads their pallets of product, and my job is to treat it like a jenga tower as I put it away. I have issues with hypermobility. It's literally only a matter of time.
This wasn't the position I applied for either, this is just where I ended up because there was only one person left in the position, and I'm too desperate to leave.
@@triopsate3 Don't forget, sufficiently cowed workers can be classified as 1099 contractors, or even made "manager" of their job tasks to say they don't qualify for (mandatory) overtime.
You can just tell the last guy who quit did so because the job ruined their back
@VeraBrightfeather I never claimed it was about malice. It has nothing to do with malice. But it has everything to do with profit.
I hate when older generations say, after submitting an application, to just walk in or call back to get the ball rolling. At my first job, if someone came in to speak to the manager or called in regards to their application, the manager would immediately throw it away.
Just recently got denied for a Saturday job at a convenience store. Apparently I did great in the interview, but wasn’t chosen due to lack of experience in retail. I have no idea how I’m gonna get experience if I can’t even get a saturday job due to lack of experience.
Now that I have a small business, any friend that needs "job experience" I let them use my name in their reference.
It's not like the companies actually care about the experience, they just need to feel good about "not hiring a clueless kid"
@@lieutenanteclipse9975 don’t suppose we could be friends? Jokes aside, your friends are lucky to have you.
@@quno5174 I just do my best to help those who matter to me, especially when the world is cruel and unyielding.
I for one hate office jobs, so I’m lucky to escape the job hunt rabbit hole.
So I’m looking for internships/first year jobs rn, and I swear, every “entry” level position required multiple years of experience 😢
hiii
I'm trying to find a job as a 3d modeller that uses blender but i find mostly none
As someone who tried to apply to a zoo caretaker position (As 20 year old stuyding for ecology degree (knew I was quitting because I didn't like the waay it was taught) and experience with a lot of animals) I've been told they require expereince from other zoo or finish the degree. 20 year old, who wants to work there, can prove he knows he knows his stuff, and is willing to move for the job. No that wasn't enough.
This wasn't even in the US.
I don't understand why you don't have 70 years work experience at 13. I had 70 years experience fresh out the womb. Kids these days.
@@AIHumanEquality you built a time machine?
Okay here is a good one. Tried putting in for my dad’s friends company as a project accountant. I have my Masters in accounting. Turned down. He tells me two months later with the most “I am so sorry” expression ever that it was he feared I’d leave as soon as another offer came along. Mind you that job pays the same that my current job does. The person he did hire instead claimed they knew the system, which I didn’t but admitted that, and wasted their time for two months before they had to hire a new person.
I’ve also been rejected because they said my Masters makes me overqualified for even entry level. Yes, I have a Masters degree, but I needed more work experience.
"I have a Masters degree, but I needed more work experience." Ahh, the classic Catch 22 of modern job-hunting... As a side note, does anyone else find it interesting how similar the current state of society is to the state of the Roman empire while it was collapsing? Just a quirky lil thought...
@@hauntedshadowslegacy2826 Indeed, especially how public services were being strained by so many foreigners.
Good lord. Never before have I related so much to a subreddit so much. Hundreds of jobs applied for, most of which I was ghosted, and I have to deal with my mom CONSTANTLY nagging at me to "Apply for more jobs", "Change up your resume again", and "You need to get a full-time job, you are going to be off our insurance plan", "If you actually GOT a full-time job you could pay to live in an apartment."
UHHHHHHHGGGGGG!
SHE IS THE REASON THAT WHEN I MOVE OUT I'M GOING NO CONTACT AND GETTING THERAPY!!!!!
My manager had the funds to put a down payment on a house about 10 years ago. His mortgage is 917/month. My rent is 900 flat for a fucking bedroom rental.
Good for you!
I tried applying to work at car washes that were offering between $17-$20 an hour. They were Club Car Wash and Splash Car Wash mostly. All of them came back with a "you do not meet the qualifications to work here."
What qualifications does one need to work at a car wash? Bear in mind that these weren't managers positions either. They were the basic jobs like the people who check you in to the line or the people who wave you in so that your tires line up with the track on the ground.
You have to qualified to be a Space Marine or some shit nowadays
That garbage collector thing is a serious issue. I feel like the main reason parents tell their kids to be willing to put into debt and work to death for the rest of their working years is so that THEY (who had it much easier) can have BRAGGING RIGHTS over their friends saying "my child just became an engineer and makes $15/hr " instead of saying "my son just became a garbage collector and makes $15/hr)
Except the difference here is that the engineer is in more debt than the garbage collector which makes him POORER.
My aunt in her mid 60s went back to work and despite having decades worth of experience, it didn’t mean shit. She was stuck at a dead end job where she could’ve run circles around her coworkers but she was too red-taped to be able to move up or get a better position. All because she didn’t have a degree.
Edit: not to mention she was probably discriminated against for her age. She was incredibly intelligent, smart, and looked younger than she was! She could’ve done so much more. She passed away 1.5 years into that job, two states away from her friends and family
Its bollocks. Systems Ffd. Its not right
FUCK THAT.
Current studies show, its actually the opposite. Younger people, between the ages of 19~32 are actually discriminated against by employers. Older people in general are more likely to receive positions.
@@kannonpqboth can be true. Trends indicate that young people are more likely to be denied work because of their age, but maybe this particular company or industry thought of a 60 year old woman as "washed up".
Depending on how long ago it was I bet her being a woman was a reason too.
The request for a drawing is probably a trick question to see who is actually reading all the directions and isnt an auto fill bot. Like those tests at school that say read all directions carefully before you begin the test only to find out the very last question says write your name and flip it over for a 100
That sort of thing is also why you hear stories about musical artists having super weird requests for their room. Like a bowl full of Skittles with all the green ones picked out. It's a test to see who's actually doing their job.
And for the musical artists example, those sorts of odd requests are usually buried in the technical and safety section to act as an alarm to know if more important things were followed.
If it's an art job, sometimes, employers ask for a specific piece so they can get the work for free. They also might take the artwork and use AI to complete it. That's occasionally just shady art industry shit
@@fryingpanvanapparently this is for a creative advertising editor position at goodr sunglasses.
THE BEST response to “explain the gap in your resume” is to say that you signed an nda and unfortunately cannot talk about it. What are they gonna do?
Make you say it anyway and refuse to hire you if you refuse to tell them
@@tylerbartlett28 Any company that would force you to break an NDA is unethical & breaking the law, so you don't want to work there anyway.
Slam you with a violation of contract charge. You aren't legally allowed to lie in the interview in 42 states. They are allowed to lie to you, but you can not lie to them.
@@kannonpqlawmakers do be a lil hypocritical
@@Cosmik60 well, when the companies are paying them to make hypocritical laws, i wouldn't expect any different
When I was looking at jobs out of college I found one job at IBM that was listed as not available to anyone who has worked at or interned at IBM before. I fit all of the job requirements except one, 3 years of experience with some software I had never heard of. When I looked it up it was listed as 'Software developed internally at IBM. Only used at IBM'
It wouldn't be Lotus Notes by chance, would it?
@@Xudmud it wasn’t that, I’ve heard of lotus notes. It’s been 12 years, I don’t remember what it was called.
11:00 If you get that job offer and start date in writing, you might have a case for what's called detrimental reliance. They promised you a job, you relied on that promise of a job and quit your old one, and then suffered a loss when they reneged. You can then usually claim damages for that. Same for if you move closer to your upcoming job, or drop the classes you were taking, etc.
Problem is that lawsuits take money and companies know that. They're banking on the fact that most people are probably going to be deterred by the thought of a long and financially straining lawsuit with a company because even if they win the lawsuit in the end, there's a chance they might be already bankrupt due to the lawsuit itself.
Only in washington DC and Oregon do you have this protection. Everywhere else in the United States, they can claim "Was a Hire and FIre at will."
No job is a promise in the united States. They can hire you and fire you at any time.
@@kannonpq Oh how wrong you are. How very wrong you are. You're correct in that they can fire you at any time, but wrong about that protecting them from detrimental reliance claims. Detrimental reliance applies in a lot more cases than just a job offer. Anywhere a reasonable person would think it's a reasonable idea to rely on another's promise, it can apply when that promise is revoked and the claimant suffered a loss due to relying on it.
"I can have your car ready for you to drive to work on monday" "I'll pay you before your rent is due next friday" "You won't be asked to work during the two weeks your vacation has been approved for", "Your reservation for a hotel room on the 14th has been confirmed" etc. All of those are promises that a reasonable person would be willing to rely on.
But if your car isn't ready when you'd agreed to have it ready, or you miss your rent bc your boss didn't pay you on time, or your vacation is cancelled after you've booked a flight and a place to stay, or your hotel reservation got double booked and so you have nowhere to stay, you've got a case. That's why most of the time there's compensation for an overbooked flight/hotel - it's either that or get sued into the ground.
It is nice to hear someone else be upset while I am out here struggling to get hired.
Same! I’m glad Robin is ranting about this. It’s so frustrating when my mom tries to rush me to get a job. It’s not my fault that people never wanna hire me. Getting a job is hard, no matter how much I try. ❤
Same here, brother. Got a certificate from a company partnering with my college. It's been nearly a year, and no luck. Maybe I should try looking for work outside the country and move there once I can afford it.
I have a theory as to why companies ask for so much info about your family/family's history is because they're feeding it through some sort of algorithm, or A.I., that's taking in that information to try and determine your "history". I think I remember a story where a resume consultant...advisor...person who helps people better structure their resume said to put down that they played lacrosse in high school to help at least land an interview. The reasoning being that the company was using an A.I. to scan resumes to single out more "desireable" applicants. But, the reference resumes that were given to the A.I. where from decades of hiring *_rich_* white people who most likely would have played lacrosse in high school.
Again, just a theory from a story I may be half remembering. But companies trying to obtain as much of your personnel history instead of you academic/working history in order to determine if you fit their idea of what a good employee via an automated system sounds like something they'd do.
Doubt about the AI but they definitely fed it to Data Aggregators somewhere.
It's "prime cut" quality information of a person and their families, which sells for quite a cash... Get 100 of those datas, and you already got about 200-500 bucks if not more
The only job that asked me about me and my family's history was law enforcement, which is one of the few that made sense in that regard.
(My parents are also law enforcement so I essentially got a fast pass in lol)
I felt that graphic at the end.
Australia has a really nasty unemployment benefits system, have to apply for a certain number of jobs each month, have to physically go into the city for a face to face meeting every fortnight where they just mark you present then you leave, and if you don't get a job fast enough you're sentenced to community service right alongside drunk drivers and the like.
I've applied for thousands of jobs, occasionally getting temporary work but nothing long term.
It's so much more work than having a job is, and on top of everything you're always worried about what the next change in the unemployment benefits is going to bring and just hoping you manage to get enough worked hours in the year to avoid the community service sentencing.
(A lot of the 'community service' requirements aren't met by doing actual community service, they do things like dump a bunch of rice on the floor and get you to pick it up, or get a whole bunch of beads and glitter from a craft store, mix it all up, and get you to sort it out.
You're lucky of you get told to pick up rubbish by the road, at least that is a real thing that needs doing.)
Bonus info, Australia offers a tax rebate for business that hire someone off unemployment for the first few months, depending on the industry the business can claim up to 100% of the wages.
Also there are currently 26 unemployed Australian's for every job opening.
So the usual practice for businesses is to hire someone for a few months, get the government to pay for it, and when the tax rebate runs out, fire them and hire someone else to start it over again.
6:29 “you look-“
Yeah that right there is illegal where I live. Discrimination against appearance is grounds to be sued
The worst thing a recruiter can be is by far, looking for "someone who is positive each and every day." I'd rather be rejected for actual reasons than "giving off the wrong vibes." Hell, not even replied to is at least less cringy.
I theorize that the whole 'wrong vibes' thing is just another discrimination tactic. 'Oh, we didn't deny her because she's in a wheelchair, we denied her because of the viiiibes!' Kiss my ass, Becky from HR...
I just learned that somehow, that "Vibe" thing can be sent to another level. I just got FIRED bc of that stupid "vibe" thing. I worked 7 hrs and my boss had already decided to have me leave partway into my second shift bc apparently my vibes weren't outgoing enough and she doesn't want me to ruin her reputation, when I know damn well it's bc I asked about pay after training, which SHE brought up!
I love when places require information about my dad, because I get to rub that “not applicable” in their face for each question about him😭😭
One recruiter suggested that I remove or hide a degree or two from my CV when I apply for jobs. It will make me look "not over qualified, yet under experienced". They said that you should either remove degrees, certificates, and even some job experiences when you apply for other jobs, so that you look more "desirable" for that particular place you are applying for.
6:58 For the tattoo thing, the worst part about that is, they would be more accepting of men with tattoos, but not women.
I've actually had that happen. It was a warehouse position and they were like nope no degrees essentially. You might go somewhere else.
whut
the f***
How does being less qualified or less educated make you more desirable
@@geekgirl616 Because companies think it means you're willing to accept a lower wage/salary.
@@Xudmud and that you're not likely to leave any time soon
these are all hitting home for me right now; I have probably 20 different skillsets, and I get ghosted by everyone.
Video Editing, Proofreading, Cashiering, Writing, Art, Design, Retail, Food Service, Programming, Computer Tech, etc etc; it's absolutely ridiculous and I have literal chronic depression. Idk how people without any mental illnesses can keep going and do it when it's like this. Only places that have ever actually given me the time of day were understaffed beyond belief, or legit lied to me.
Wish that things were a hell of a lot better, but I don't see things improving quickly.
I once applied for a full time job with a meh pay, about as much as I made at walmart (a bit more), but a job I would like. Turns out their application lied and it was part time and I wasn’t told until the day I was hired. Told them it wasn’t ok to do that, asked them to fix their shit, and left. They weren’t even willing to give me full time hours
Edit: I went through so many things. A couple interviews, 3 medical tests (drug screening, HIV test, and a TB test, since it was an assisted living) and all that wasted my time for 2 weeks until that happened
If this was recent, talk with a lawyer, m8. Your time and money were wasted because they blatantly lied to your face. Keep ahold of all correspondence plus the application, note down all the times you interacted with them directly in pursuit of the job, and note down all the tests/screenings you took in pursuit of the job. It's slim, but there is a chance you could get something from them for it. Otherwise, just start pressuring your state reps and senators to make lying on job listings illegal.
@@hauntedshadowslegacy2826 this was well over a year ago and I lost the application and most correspondence. I may try that last one
@@hauntedshadowslegacy2826
The fact that it isn't already illegal is insanity.
The interview questions asking about things that don't relate to the job reminded me of when my mum applied to work at KFC. One question tested English abilities and then asked a question about displaying clothes in a store. She didn't mind but I couldn't get over how dumb it was, the bulk of the job is customer service and serving food so asking about basic food prep, hygiene etc. would make sense but no go ahead and ask if they know about advanced English literature and have a good fashion sense. XD
8:01 the next questions are definitely "what is your mother's maiden name? what street did you grow up on? what's the long number on your credit card and the expiry date and the 3 digits on the back? tell us about a time when you were in a leadership role"
Yea I have literally applied to everything that has even as low qualification requirements as "You need to have a pulse" still can't get hired. Going to be going on three years soon. The industries are crying that people don't "Want to work" or "They can't find anyone to do the job" and then people like me sit there like "I have a pulse, please hire me" and we get either A) Ghosted (Most common) or B) Outright rejected
I wonder if perhaps people should start putting "Failure to respond within 7 days shall be considered an automatic hiring with a minimum term of one month." on all applications? Not too unreasonable, but enough of an incentive to actually process your application and give a response or risk getting sued for failure to pay your wages.
@VeraBrightfeather It's just turning around the EULA and TOS ploy they've been doing to us for decades. Those aren't enforceable either.
Modern day employers have become Looky Lous. They'll browse the entire store, ask a dozen questions of the staff, pile up the cart... then abandon it and walk away. They never had any intention of buying, they just wanted to pretend to be the Big Important Spender who's Buying Stuff, Lookit Me.
As someone who's grandfather is still nagging at about the fact that "at my age i was already working for 6 years" hearing Robin vent about the fact that their times were different then now is so nice.
Like yea sure i get it you were already working at 14 sure i get it you didn't work in the field you wanted to but excuse me for still trying to figure out what the hell i want to do with my life, excuse me for wanting a job that i at least like somewhat. I don't want a job that i absolutely hate but my grandfather doesn't understand that.
Edit: and hell i don't even live in America! I don't even want to think about how freaking hard it has to be getting a Job in America when I'm already struggling in Germany.
Cancelling people's employment after hiring them is such an American thing, about 25 years ago it happened to my mum (here in the UK) after she'd signed a contract, the contract stated she'd get 6 months pay if the project she was hired for was cancelled. She got paid, no questions asked, no dramas, she was peeved about not having a job, but it wasn't damaging to us finanically. I'm surprised it doesn't end in lawsuits.
Ikr. I got a job and I had surgery soon(months later) so I brought it up with my employer and he gave me the green light and I would still have the job when I got back. They literally fired me once I finished recovering and was ready to come back to work. 😭
Well, there's a very good reason there aren't lawsuits about this. In the US you are generally required to pay all of your own legal fees regardless of the outcome of the lawsuit. Most of the people getting screwed over by these companies cannot afford that since there Is also no social safety net of any kind so without a job you are basically fucked anyway. Hard to fight a lengthy legal battle when you can't afford rent or food, let alone pay the lawyers to do so.
@@Someonewhoprobablyexists Not to mention most employers now force people into arbitration courts, usually ones that are not impartial, and are heavily lobbied by the employer.
Yeah because if they don't do that in places like the UK and other developed countries it wouldn't be a lawsuit but the government coming down on you.
Because the corporate entity has more rights in the U.S. than the average citizen. We live in a corporate oligarchy essentially.
If I'd gotten an application asking about my parents' occupations, those recruiters would be in for a rude surprise when I put down 'being dead'.
I applied for multiple internal possitions at the company I work for. Other than the automatic email that happens for internal candidates letting you know your application was moved onto the hiring manager, I received no further contact. I only found out by going to the job website for employees and not seeing the job listed anymore. I talked with one of my old friends who used to be my supervisor, until he got a promotion and they moved him to a different location, and he told me for internal candidates, it is required for them to at least give you an interview. That didn't happen once for the multiple positions I applied for. I was pissed, but he asked me not to ask about it, since he said it was only info for managers to know. I decided not to ask my work about it as he is a good friend of mine and he was an amazing supervisor when we worked together.
It just pisses me off that even though you aren't leaving the company when you apply for an internal position for some people they still get turned down just so the company or your bosses can keep you in the same place. If they are going to just do that without even giving me a chance to interview, then to hell with the company and the job.
As a college student about to graduate I fear for what I’m stepping into. I applied to hundreds on internships and haven’t gotten more than 1 interview which they ghosted me on. My budget was very tight and I’m lucky to have my parents around to support me.
I talked to recruiters and others within my industry and they said I don’t have a path forward anymore unless I get very lucky, many of the entry level positions I would have gotten even 4 years ago don’t exist anymore since they were replaced with AI who can do the work for the cost of an IT guy that manages dozens. I am fucked so hard I have to get a masters in order to find any form of gainful employment and delay my student loan repayments long enough to not go bankrupt.
personally as a random internet stranger i say don't bother with starting that master's program- sunk cost fallacy- pivot your career, some work that's parallel to your major...
Would a position even be guaranteed with a masters? If you out those years into that masters, those companies can out years into automating the positions they havnt yet
You are running from the lava flow of automation, and it's gonna keep flowing faster
@@3bydacreekside man its either this or give up on life, I don't have the financial ability to switch paths. at least with a masters I can get a job teaching at a university which they cant really automate away.
Its not impossible. But you guys are in for an uphill climb. In short, you are going to be working harder for less.
Oh goodie, it was just about time to find a subreddit that completely and utterly hits, not close to home, but squarely on it.
I took a masters in Journalism and have been looking for a job that is not a pay-less/pro bono/do it for the resume internship at a press for about 2 years now and my dad still can't understand how I can't just walk up to the press, ask for a job and get it like he did to the factory he still works at since the 80s.
And then he tells me "just get a job in another area", like I can just deliver my resume to a finance or law office and they're like "Yeah, sure come on in, we're willing to take time to teach you the ropes!". He still can't understand that the work landscape has changed and no matter how many times we argue about it I'm just the lazy mooch to him.
It's funny. I've always assumed that the reason that companies tell people they're not hiring you or they've already hired someone else because the job went to someone who has little to no experience in doing that job, and the job was given to a friend or family member that probably did them favors.
This is all insanely relatable right now. I have been searching for jobs for ages and everything either rejects me or ghosts me, EVEN WHEN they ask me for an interview. Whats worse is i literally don't have money to pay my bills so the job market is really just like "die then."
My mom has worked for Raytheon for over 35 years now. She nags me constantly how I can't hold a job for more than a year let alone one that pays more than 15 an hr (minimum wage is 7.25 still here so gl with that) and she makes 28 an hr nowadays, has her own house and everything. Never went to college but if you want even a minor position far lesser than hers you need several degrees and like a decade of experience and training. Her? Literally walked in, asked for a job and got it. She is 63 now and I'm 33 struggling and stuck living with her because I literally can't find a decent job that isn't ghosting or outright laughing me out the door for asking for a living wage.
I'm from the country with supposedly the best job market (the Netherlands, you can provide for a 2 child family of 4 with just 1 parent working full time at McDonalds and all health insurance and such is covered) and even here it's pretty rough to find work and not get dicked around. I can only imagine the mountain of struggle it must take to do a job search in the US. I feel for y'all, having to apply to 1600 jobs to land 1? The hell, and then you still probably have to work a lot of hours, which with expensive housing/rental market and an insane healthcare system basically means you're screwed regardless if you ever get sick. I applaud you and anybody else that still keeps trying, it's brutal. Good luck!
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> Dad left when I was 2 (my aunt says he worked in a casino)
> Mom was mentally and physically disabled, unable to work, and died when I was 13
> Tell me, how do those two facts decide that I, a college student who worked at Domino's, should be ghosted before ever talking to a recruiter? 🤔
I'm fv¢kiπg waiting. 😤
11:11 Happened to me a few years ago. I applied and successful pass a probation for a small start up company and was offered the job.
I was super excited as it would have meant having some pay during lockdown period.
I receive a call a few hours later from the recruiter saying the employers changed their mind and would no longer hire me.
The recruiter was visibly upset by their sudden change of heart giving how down to earth they were, but still didn't help rejection the employers did.
The response to gaps should always be "Sorry, I signed an NDA."
I still to this day remember my interview for Target and how pissed off I was with the hiring manager afterwards. I am generally the nervous kind of interview taker, so it baffled me when I gave answers to their question that all had to be “more specific”.
It still baffles me that I was immediately hired afterwards when K-Mart declined and then promptly went out of business.
8:07 i just got hired at spirit halloween. they're the only company out of dozens that ive applied for that ACTUALLY responded to me, let alone hire me. just that bare minimum and i have more respect for them than any other one of those companies i applied to
In Germany we have a lot of old people complaining that the younger generation doesn’t want to work anymore. I’m not sure if the US has it too but here you can learn some jobs at a company (If these companies ever respond to your application). Well it’s not really motivating to be treated like a lesser being while getting paid less than minimum wage. Combine that with the money being worth a lot less than it used to be and costs like rent and food having exploded. Then it’s no mystery anymore
And when you’re let go because you’re not mentally stuck in the 50‘s you’ll have two options. 1. Apply to companies directly and don’t get a response. 2. Apply to a company that lends you to the companies that didn’t respond but only for a few months at a time and worse pay.
When I was younger and looking for internships, it was normal to tell the company your parents names and jobs on your application...
Like why? Why do they need to know ANY of that?
Luckily that changes, but still
most likely to know if you come from a rich background or if your parents are someone they want to be "in" with
@@kaiseremotion854 Or to find out if your parents are lawyers, and thus not hire you because shady practices.
Watching this video made me at the very least TRY sending a resume to some company because surely... it can't be AS bad as some of these examples. (Which just feels sad because some people actually DO have it THIS bad...) The worst they'll say is no and at least I'll have proof that I at least TRIED looking for a job next time I go to the labor office.
This is probably the first and last time a sub-reddit meme reading will ever convince me to do that.
This assumes they even acknowledge your existence in the first place. Often times companies will only contact you if they're interested in interviewing you.
@@Xudmud I just really need proof that I even sent something anyway. And I did. So... I'm fine even if I'm not contacted back.
i hope they reply.
I'm interested: how is it going ? ^^
6:24 I would probably report the job listing if that does anything
Yeah, the one really frustrating experience I had, was interviewing for a software dev position, when I aced the technical portion, but was told I failed the soft skills part, because I "failed to answer too many questions". For context, the only question I failed to answer was "Describe an incident where you had a serious disagreement or confrontation with your team on a work related issue and how you solved it", to which I said that I have never had such issues in my team (which is perfectly true). Then again, it was Amazon that I was interviewing for, so I guess its all for the best
I work at a Tim Hortons on the highway, and they hired a bunch of temporary workers because they get to pay them less, and they're not required to train them. It's actually sad what companies will do to save an extra penny
This cheers me up after a depressing long day job searching. Shows I'm not the only one who feels this.
same, esp the one who said they were giving up, as i have done the same.
@@sigh_yuri same also.
I'm not sure if this cheers me up or makes me more depressed and hopeless. I was dismissed from Walmart ( a job that I completely hated) a few months ago and still haven't found a new job. I may be able to return to a seasonal job that I had in the past - maybe. But that is still a few months away, and seasonal, only lasting four months of the year.
I think once a job says that you are a possible candidate or at the very least when they actually have an interview with you, right there they should start paying those people minimum wage. It would force more places to actually try to bring people in and posting for hiring when they actually need it. Additionally, we need to stop with this range BS. If your range say $17-30, its 17 and that is what they should put with something like "If selected starting pay may be higher" without putting an actual amount cause we all know that places only do that to get the people looking at higher wages to look at their posting.
11:11 Yes, it's that they found someone who would do it for cheaper.
Its refreshing to know im at least not the only one with this issue i literally get aggervated when i get like 50 rejection letters
11:41 Wouldn't be surprised if the former employer called the new employer and talked poop about the employee because they were salty the employee was leaving. Never tell the old employer where you got hired on to.
5:30 - I just remember being told stuff like "even jobs like cleaners will get hired much easily if they have degrees"
so basically everyone tells me it's better to at least have a degree no matter what happens afterwards
For me, "competitive salary" directly translates to minimum wage. It's competing to see who can get the most labor for the lowest wages possible.
Absolutely! If they aren't willing to name a number, it's never going to be because they think people will be so wowed they'd be flooded with applicants, it's because they're hoping to find someone who will take the bottom of the barrel offer.
Every time this sub comes up I thank my lucky stars that I was able to find a job within a handful of applications. It sounds like sheer torture and it makes me apprehensive of trying to look for a better position.
I was out of work for 4 months after getting fired from my new job for getting sick twice. I applied to hundreds of places before resigning myself to go back to fast food. And I had to suffer that for another 3 months with threats of being fired because I'm immunocompromised and get sick often, I kept searching for a new job after putting in more applications, even did it the old fashioned way and walked through town for applications.
Thankfully I've found a new job that is a great fit for me, the pay is fantastic, the environment is *chefs kiss*, and its not fast food! It was incredibly lucky, and I'm thankful for this job always
maybe when companies say their family they probably mean that literally meaning the only way to get hired as if you're literally blood-related that's probably how terrible the job market is in reality
I'm going through this bull right now. So annoying. For an entry level job I can do remote (health issues and don't have a car or license) for like literally logging in data, it needs like 5 years experience doing it. How am I supposed to get experience if there is no way to? Like, I wish it could be random experience, because at least then I could use my art commissions I've done as experience, but nope. Even if I set my own rates and manage my time well, it's not "enough"
11:30 all I can tell you is to always, ALWAYS ask for a work contract as soon as possible when you get a position. A contract is the only thing protecting you. And for the love of everything, never quit your previous job before you have a contract, a solid one, for the next job.
3:14 Protip: "I'm not at liberty to explain what I was doing during that time" or "Sorry, that's Classified".
They probably won't check.
It’s better if on your resume you put Confidential during the gap. That way no questions will be asked in the first place.😉
Every time there's a question about a gap in a resume, my response is, "Because that's how long it took to get another job, stupid."
My dad told me not to go to college and not to go into the military for college. He told me to learn a trade instead. It worked out very well.
But hats off to everyone who went to college and those who didn’t. We are all just trying to make a living now. We can do this.
Agreed, NEVER EVER be a terrorist! And indeed… though I still take free online uni classes because I like learning and having achievements even if I can’t even afford the certificate
I had trouble getting a job out of college. YEARS rolled by, that freaking gap man...I was worried.
Then decided to list my time house/dog sitting that I occasionally did as well as the times I went to someone's house to clip their cat/dog's nails and boom I don't have a gap, I was a mobile pet groomer and house/pet sitter all that time. I had a select clientele (family lol) so how would they even check and it covered my gap from random times I helped family.
I even had references! lol
Yeah, interesting ways to fill a resume gap or jazz up a simple job on a resume are often fun to read. I once saw a woman who listed a few years as a stay at home mum as "running own business providing small scale logistics management for a select clientele".
Back when I was in my early 20's I really wanted to find a job. My dad, who had been working at Chrysler for about 25+ years, literally told me all I had to do was walk into any store, demand an application and/or ask to talk to the manager, and they would basically hire me on the spot.... Can ya guess how well that worked out? =P
The more I watch this subreddit the more thankful I become, I've worked for seven different companies in the last year alone, but I managed to get interviewed and hired by each one for a bare minium of one month for each company.
I finally got a job after A YEAR of sending out resumes after I lost my old job due to transportation issues. I've gone from working in an office setting to working at a pizza place. But, I have to say, the pizza place workplace culture is A LOT better than the office so far.
To be honest, some money is better then no money. The best thing to do is get a job of any type (as long as it pays the bills, even if you have to make sacrifices) while your looking for the job you want or are most qualified for. The nice thing is the crappy low pay jobs are fine to flat out walk out from too. I got an interview with Walmart (I was looking for a second job) and got hired. Halfway through the orientation, I decided I had no desire to work there (every question they asked and every test I purposely gave the worst answers and still was hired) and I walked out of orientation. Even waved to the manager as I walked out. I went home and never heard a word afterwards other then getting a check in the mail for a 6 hour day (the length of the orientation). A few years later, Walmart lost a class action lawsuit for failing to pay overtime. They had to pay out a certain amount of money to every employee who worked for them during a certain time period. The amount was based of the years you worked there. I received a check. All in all it ended up being the most money I ever made in 3 hours. I essentially made about $130/hr working for Walmart.
My take on college and some companies that list it as an expectation: they don't care what someone learned to earn that degree, they know an applicant that went to college likely accumulated a debt they won't soon pay off, so they won't be retiring young/at all and will need to commit more years working for them.
Not to say all college education is a scam, but many companies are predatory!
My grandfather used to tell he couldn’t understand why I couldn’t afford a house making $10/hr in 2007. He kept saying that he only made $7.50/he at his highest pay rate. I never really said anything but $7.50/per hour in 1975 (the last year he worked before he got injured) was the equivalent to $35/ hr in 2007 money. He also used to tell me and my father also still says the same thing that if they lost their job on Friday, they would start a new job by Monday. That only happened to me 1 time in my life. I had quit a fast food job and went to work at a printing company for more money. It didn’t work out and I was about to get my fast food job back the same day I lost the printing company job. I was 19 and fresh out of high school.
the moment you are 16+ and lose your first job ..it is easier to start your own business than to get a different job within 3-4 months.
the difficulty only increases the older you get.
That last point is so true in Engineering. A lot of the older guys were hired with no degree and little experience. They're great at their jobs now of course (most anyway), but these days starting out it seems like you have to have 5x the knowledge for a tenth of the chance to get a job.
There is a stigma against people who work manual jobs. Construction workers, plumbers bricklayer, sanitation workers, etc. It's sad to see because without those people life completely stops.
We’re looking for a 20 year old with 30 years of experience
My mum was going to leave a job she had been at for 18 years. She went in for her first day, she hadn't heard anything from them which she thought was a bit odd, but she hadn't worked anywhere else for close to 2 decades so she just went in anyway. She gets there and finds out they've already hired someone else because they found out she had some debt. (she was going to work at a bank.) they didn't tell her that was a problem just decided to go with someone else. Thankfully her old job took her back.
1:05 reminds me of this better preschool we tried moving our older one to and when we applied they snitched to the current one who caused us drama as a result…
Also to add, besides the toxic positivity, imagine saying to leave their ego at the door and then claiming they are looking for a Captain America kind of thing… what about the ego of claiming your hellhole country is all of America, he needs to leave his ego at the door too!
5:18 As Hank Hill once said "Find the job nobody wants, and then, do it better."
5:10 If you can handle cleaning minor grime occasionally and wiping surfaces or dry-mopping all day, be a janitor! Not only does it likely pay pretty good, you get FUCKING JACKED pushing that cart around all day. No one wants to have to do it, and it's kinda boring, sure, but it requires taking absolutely zero Karen Bullshit in any capacity. I worked Janitorial at an entry-level position at a Movie Theatre; Dustpan and Drymop, 2 passes per aisle, maybe 3. I could get a whole theatre clean of popcorn and debris in 30 minutes or less. The worst part was finding music to listen to to not go insane from the monotony, which, in the age of The Internet, is 2 hours to find 73 new songs for the playlist, especially with as wide of Tastes as I have. I genuinely enjoy Halestorm, Toto's Africa, Safety Dance, Wierd Al Yankovic, Skillet, Bruno Mars, Taylor Swift, dozens of Video Game Songs, and multiple tracks from Pacific Rim or JoJo's Bizzare Adventures, so I have a WIDE pool to pull from, but I digress.
Point is, Janitor Duty is NOWHERE NEAR as bad as it seems, gets you jacked, and lets you listen to music and not have to deal with a SINGLE customer.
Have been convinced that the job market and our society at large when a friend of mine, who went to college for a degree, and even became fluent in a different language to be more desirable, had to work at several chain restraunts because everything else ghosted her.
I’m fluent in 6 and learning more, I’ve got a certificate from Harvard in child protection and development too, passed my classes elsewhere too, have 25 years experience with kids of all kinds and in all fields… over 300 (not even exaggerating) applications including childcare ones… ONE parent and ONE company contacted me.
i applied for an IT possition at a company, i have recently gotten my diploma in IT systems, i recieved an email stating that they want to employ people who have IT diplomas. this was in the netherlands
Did you know a lot of companies now require credit checks these days? I’m a guy who never had student loan debt thanks to my grandfather, nor credit card debt as I only used debit. Because of this, I had no credit history. But as it turns out, this also means that the companies who run background checks, the ones you sign to let them reach out and verify your social security number and all that, yeah, couldn’t verify my number because I didn’t have a credit history.
3:16 Got asked about it, pointed out the fact I was working towards my Masters’ Degree during the three year long lockdown and the only work I could pick up was a contractor position helping out my dad’s office for several months.
I am on disability, and to be fair, I sometimes hate feeling like the US government and some citizens ("we pay for you to live with our taxes!" When I am a Disabled Adult Child, who was born to parents who were 18/19 turning 20 the year I was born and I get ~75% of the federal poverty line and have no one who is willing and the few that would be willing aren't able, so I am basically barely making it month to month, fun fun) but I do also have days when I am glad I'm not selling my time to barely make it anyway.
3:43 I use “I was providing end of life care for a relative” works wonders at making those recruiters uncomfortable. My business is my own if I decide to involve you I will talk to you
bro being a garbage man seems so fun, they get to ride around the back of a truck and grad things with a metal claw llike 500 times a day, random urge to just do both of those rn
I recall a story told of someone getting into a company with “I don’t know how excel works, but I can learn”
Hired idk if we younglings could try a thing like that today. That story is from late 90s early 2000s or so.
The guy who used to clean our bins was self employed, had several vans working for him, regularly holidayed at his house in Spain and made bank selling off the company in his 40s. Sanitation services can make you a lot of money.
I am recruiting everyone for a job. The job is to relax and have a nice day. The requirements to join is simple:
1. Reading this comment
2. That's it you're hired
Congratulations you are hired, have a nice day. :) 👍
Unfortunately i can't pay my rent with a "nice day" but i hope you find the applucants you're looking for
I have a friend in the uk who was sacked earlier this year, like over 6 months ago, and now employers are starting to reject him because he "has been unemployed too long". Absolute bullshit.
For me, it's not "if you don't go to college you're worthless". Everyone tells me if I don't go into a TRADE, then I deserve to be poor and suffer, nevermind those jobs are INCREDIBLY physically demanding so it's incredibly ableist
6:08 I'd like to point out that I'm none of those things and the people that interview me or hire me or I worked with often are. And when I point that out, their response is usually, "Well, we can't all be like you." or "We're not all overachievers like you."
Take from that what you will.
Companies want people in the building to justify paying the rent for the tax write off. The difference between thw rent and the write off is less than paying for billboards, so it is a saving on the marketing department.
The next one was even worse! “You can’t lift heavy stuff without sustaining “a back injury”” like just wtf hope they go out of business too
I'm going to assume the place that wanted a drawing of an octopus fighting a pirate is an awesome place to work
If it’s an art job, it’s annoying
If it’s anything else, it will be the best work community you have ever been in
TXT file extension on the list. So they accept ASCII art.
It's Goodr sunglasses that has the requirement in question.
8:50
real story tho:
dude hired at my dad's job
$30/hr
manager is confused bc he got a raise to 30 not too long ago
(minimum wage is livable in my area BTW, most places pay upwards of 10)
my dad, who is one of the most experienced people in the company, and one of the very few with the ability to teach about some of the airplanes, doesnt make that.
new hire is worthless.
mora of a drag than anything