2024 Best 4K Camcorder Under $1,700 | Panasonic X1500 | Test Footage with S5IIX
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super great camera. I bought mine about 10 months ago, 4K Camcorder Under $1,700 | Panasonic X1500 for 7,50 dollar at best buy. brand new, no refurnished. when i bought it, i asked the store manager why was half price, I was told that they only had a few in two stores i GUESS, AND IT HOAPPENE TO BE AT THE BEST BUY NEAR WHERE i LIVE, SACRAMENTO CA. ABSOLUBTLY LOVE THIS CAM. GREAT VIDEO, THANKS FOR SHARING IT.
I've owned a x2000 for 3 years. It's excellent for most uses and the i-zoom is sharp. I recommend the Spark Scene setting. The handle has a light usable to about one metre and a very smooth zoom rocker, great for handheld zooming. Stabilisation is also first class. It's a daytime camcorder, so put it to bed when it gets dark.
Im about to grab me one of these bad boys (the x2000 bigger brother variant). I currently use the UX180 for primary shooting due to its larger sensor, but the camera is so bulky and heavy, especially when you add a mic. The other issue being the new standard of putting the LCD screen on the grip.
This little guy seems like the the perfect Run-n-gun camera to just pull out of a backpack and shoot. Sure the sensor is smaller, but the 10bit color makes up for that. Just go in the menu and raise the master pedestal and everything flattens out nicely as Panasonic always does in their camcorder line. Then just crush the black is grading later and your low contrasty shooting issue is solved. But yeah....this little guy looks like a perfect quick shooting alternative for those of us with the more expensive bricks. Great review!
Your channel is great man 👍 great to hear from someone who actually knows what they are talking about 🙏
Do you use a X1500 for your vids?
@@daverowe4566 yes quite a few my podcast angles etc
That zoom range is very impressive.
Excellent review. Thank you so much,
Thanks for the video and elucidation.
It's my dream camera. But it will only be a dream... :) Nice review, man! 👍
great review im sold.........subbed
Great video, thanks for posting this and doing a comparison with one of the latest Panasonic hybrid cameras. Back when this camera was first introduced, I was set on getting one or the X2000 however, with the world locked down due to the pandemic, these were not available and I ended up with the XC-H1. Posted a couple of videos on it on YT to test it out. A couple years later, I started doing YT videos with, cutting my teeth on the video side of things. Since then I have been using hybrid cameras now (Nikon and Sony). I have wondered what Panasonic could do with the BSH1 internals, in a camcorder body, with updated AF and stabilization, while keeping the whole setup close to the X2000 size. I probably would get one if they also included Log and RAW capabilities. We will see if they announce any new camcorders or gear at NAB.
I don't think it's technically possible to put a full frame sensor or even an MFT into a camcorder body the size of an X2000. At best, Panasonic has tried things like this in the past. The AG-AF100 was their first mashup of a camcorder and mirrorless camera by having the body of an HVX200 with an MFT sensor and lens mount. Then in 2015, they released the AG-DVX200 which was the first ever camcorder with MFT sensor, but it was a huge body and wasn't successful for them.
The lens would be huge and cost a fortune. I don't think there's any way to do this on the cheap. I could see this costing $10K with a small zoom range.
Great review. I think this is the first camcorder I've actually desired in over 10 years.
Interestingly, I believe I like the way the X1500 handled highlight rolloff better than the S5 did. Of course, it's ungraded and the S5 would probably outshine it when pushing the footage, but out of camera? Really pleasing image.
I think many people get skeptical about a 1/2.5" sensor, myself included, but I believe that allowed Panasonic to pack in so many other features that no other camcorder in this price range could match. Some people only care about final image quality, but the X1500 is for people who need all the other stuff for a relatively low price. The X1500 sometimes drops to under $1,500 if you catch a sale.
@@VideoGizmology I've not bought a camcorder since the Vixia HV30 came out. Most of what I do doesn't require it. But I've often thought of getting one, particularly for "high risk" shots or more run-n-gun stuff. If I get a good deal, I might pull the trigger with this one.
nice video.. would love to see the camera footage on a sunnier day
This comparison is informative.
Thanks
Nice video! I own the Canon XA70 which has 1 inch sensor and comes with xlr top handle that I do use for the better audio quality but as you said, it cost a bit more. You can shoot LOG but colors look good right out of camera.
I like the Canon XA70 a lot. I've seen it hold up well to the Canon XF605 when comparing similar codecs. Canon image quality looks more pleasing to me than the X1500, but it gets difficult to pick which one is better overall depending on what your needs are. However, if the Canon XA70 dropped to $1,800 and the X1500 stayed the same price, it'd be harder for me to say the X1500 is better value.
Thanks for review /comparison... These small sensor Camcorders are great for long range shooting outdoors, but everything else is no match in terms of image quality for even the basic APSC mirrorless cameras Eg. R50. So, I suppose if image quality is your number one priority (it is with me) I would say a 1 inch sensor camera is the starting point.
Yes, I agree, but depending on your needs, a camcorder is a more effective tool than a mirrorless camera. If you're filming certain types of live events, conferences, journalism, nature documentaries, etc. a camcorder with a long zoom range is more useful. The X1500 stands above other options in this price bracket. Of course if you have more money to spend, then yes, a 1 inch sensor should be the starting point.
For some use cases upmost image quality is not the key focus. Pro level ports, i/o, ethernet connection, DC in, built in NDs, long zoom with par-focal capabilities, general exposure controls, zebras, waveforms, accessibility to XLR inputs and so on are more important. You can get some of these features on APSC mirrorless but often not all. It's just a different tool for different styles of video production.
@@VideoGizmologyLOL... My Samsung S22 do more!!!
I would argue that a great ENG- Sony Z90 is way overpriced for having the 1 inch…
@@frenchcoupon3391 I totally agree with that. The Sony Z 90 costs double... Unacceptably expensive for the better amateur.
I always loved those camcorders. Affordable, with professional features (such as ND or zoom rocket) and ergonomic. Why mirrorles and prosumer camcorders meet a miidle point.
There have been attempts to merge the camcorder with mirrorless like a JVC LS300 and Sony NEX-FS100U, but it wasn't as popular, so now what you get is a cinema camera like a Canon C70, C100 series, or Sony FX6/FX9, etc. Then for the camcorder, they started making 1" sensors and I don't see them upgrading sensor size anytime soon.
What size is the sensor ? I own a Sony AX700 camcorder with a 1 inch sensor and the IQ is great outdoors but indoors I shoot with APSC or 35mm cameras
Gr8 Video man! I'm looking at getting a camcorder and narrowed the choice down to this Panasonic and the Canon XA60 - they are about the same price but, what is your opinion of the Canon? And forgive my basic tech knowledge but does a smaller sensor not give a greater depth of field which makes focusing on moving subjects easier? thanks!
I like the 1" sensor Canon cameras the best. The smaller sensor cameras don't look as good to me as the Panasonic X1500, however, the 1" Canon cameras are fantastic. So based on image quality, the X1500 is better than the XA60. There are only two advantages I see with the XA60 - if you have other Canon cameras and want to match them, then stick with Canon. Secondly, if you want better audio features with XLR, get the XA60. The X1500 has an XLR handle, but you have to buy that separately, so the cost goes up. And yes, a smaller sensor generally means greater depth of field.
@@VideoGizmology Thanks for such a quick reply! I think the Panasonic would be the better camera for my purposes :)
I'm curious about the x1500's close-up capabilities
Normally, Leica lenses will provide very close magnification
great review! was it supposed to end abruptly like that?
Yeah. I'm not great about concluding my videos. but thanks for watching to the end!
What would be your opinion of this as an option for a video podcast studio camera? I know some big shows like Joe Rogan use camcorders to record. From what it sounds like, if you can control the light, this could make an excellent option.
Yes, the X1500 is great for podcasting, but you might want to consider the X2000 or CX10. Those are basically the same as the X1500, but are better designed for live streaming, if that's what you do. In fact, the CX10 has extra live streaming features that the X1500/X2000 does not have.
However, depending on your podcast filming setup , there are much cheaper cameras to use. For example, there are PTZ Webcams that are under $500 that can all be controlled with a computer. The Pat McAfee show is one of the most well produced livestreams and they use PTZ cameras, albeit, the most expensive ones with thousands of dollars of other gear, lol. But you can apply the same concepts for low budget variation.
Great review, thank you! I'm still hesitating between a second hand AX700 and a X1500. What would you recommend?
If you find the AX700 for half the cost of the X1500 and price matters to you the most, then I'd get the cheaper AX700. The X1500 has a better zoom lens, both from wide angle to telephoto, better codecs, and better battery life compared to the AX700. If those matter to you significantly, then the X1500 is a better tool for you.
@@VideoGizmology despite that the X1500E has such a small sensor? It's really tempting, but considering that it has the size of an iPhone sensor, I'm really hesitating... the AX700 has a 1-inch sensor and also a very good lens - though not 4k60p and no 10-bit...
Wow 😮
I have a VFX990 and although I like it a lot, even in manual mode it auto exposures. Does the Panasonic X1500 allow to lock the exposure?
Yes, the Panasonic X1500 allows you to lock exposure.
i like the zoom
nice video. the canon G70 looks pretty good. the canon XA50 is great - w/ the 1" sensor.
I wasn't as impressed with the Canon G70. I liked the Canon XA50, though. I had it for a few months, but had to sell it when I upgraded other cameras. Now I can't find a good used price for an XA50 that hasn't been heavily used.
@@VideoGizmology yeah, I found a good used XA50 from B&H for around $1400. I shot a fiction feature w/ an earlier XA50 that I had - very happy w/ that camera. obviously if buying new I'd go w/ the XA70. anyway, great channel - have seen a lot of your videos in the past. I also did a sony x70 vs. canon g70 vs. canon xa50 footage comparison video on my channel. the zoom performance on the X1500 as shown on your video is amazing.
Thanks!
In low light, you'd really need to have equivalent depth of field as well. It would be interesting to put the S5iix at f/13 (equivalent DOF at f/1.8 on the x1500). Of course, in this setting the S5iix will trash the x1500, but you'd need to be more selective with your focus.
Yeah, that would be interesting to compare equivalent DOF as a test. It would be nice just to see that as a cinematography experiment.
@@VideoGizmologyactually, I think it would be more like f/11.
For cinematography, the large sensor is often a creative necessity. But much of what you're shooting with a camcorder is going to suffer from shallow DoF. That's a big reason why even today, modern, very expensive ENG cameras are still based on 2/3" sensors.
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I like the image out of the x1500 more. If it had the dynamic range and probably up it to a micro 4/3rds I'd probably buy.
The dynamic range would improve if it had LOG, but camcorders are not getting MFT sensors. Panasonic released the DVX200 a few years ago, but it was not a very popular camera despite being the only camcorder to ever have a MFT sensor.
Interesting! I finally sold my old Panny camcorders last year, after basically finding myself entirely on "hybrid" cameras. That an HMC40 and TM700, back in the even smaller 3-chip HD days. The annoying thing isn't system cameras, even though I get better video on my Olympus gear, even not intended as primarily video or even a hybrid market series.
But I also have a Sony RX10 IV, which delivers really good video off a 1" sensor, with the same 25x zoom range you have here, okay f/2.5 to f/4.0, Zeiss vs Leica design, but better DR and Log modes. But okay, also not that videocentric. But the the FZ2500 from Panasonic, with the 1" sensor, zoom out to around 480mm equivalent, built in NDs, very video friendly... Like a baby GH5 with Log and higher bitrates... And it's only around a grand!
I get the value of a camcorder for pure video work: available XLRs if you want on-camera audio, a better functional shape for video shooting, more buttons, larger battery, etc. But would it really have killed Panasonic to deliver essentially a camcorder version of the FZ2500 at the price point of the X1500?
Don't get me wrong: I shot great video on Panny back in the day, and this looking like a 2024 update of my old gear is what brought me in to watch the video. You must live pain if you try any run-and-gun on a hybrid/stills-for-video rig versus a self-contained camcorder! This is clearly a good tool for many jobs... Just why won't they cross pollinate the best of both product lines?
The left side of the last content is covered by the next video introduction pop-up, so I can't see it... (14:50~)
ok, I deleted those end screens.
would love to see a comparison to HC-X20 not fair to compare against a full frame S5
I was more interested in seeing if I could intercut the X1500 with the S5IIX when I do multi-cam. I used to intercut GH4 and GH5 with a Panasonic AG-UX180 and FZ2500, which I have footage of on my channel. I thought it came close depending on how I used the cameras.
I'm probably not going to get the HC-X20, but I have my eyes on the HC-X2, which is basically the same thing, so a comparison between the X2 and X1500 may happen.
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How would you compare this camcorder to Canon XA 70 ? Which is better in your opinion?
If you are in the Canon ecosystem, then I would stick with Canon. If you have no other camera brands, then the differences between the X1500 and XA70 are as follows:
X1500 has better zoom range, better internal codecs with 4:2:2 10-bit, better battery life, smaller more compact body, better image stabilization, 4K/60p, and is usually around $600-$800 cheaper than the XA70.
XA70 has a bigger sensor that will give you better dynamic range and low light performance, it comes with an XLR handle and has better audio features with 4 tracks of audio, it is heavier with better build quality, better autofocus, can shoot in LOG, and has a more pleasing cinematic look to the image quality than the X1500.
@@VideoGizmology Thank you for answer.
Another flaw with teh X1500 is that if you're running & gunning then *sometimes* the record button doesn't register when you push it to stop recording. This can mean you end up with hours of footage of nothing because you pushed the button to stop recording but it kept going and then, even if you close the LCD and the eyepiece, it just keeps recording until the SD card is full. I thought this might have been a fault but I've had two of these and they both had the same problem.
Fortunately, that has never happened to me, but good to know this is a potential issue if you move too quickly. Thanks for your comment!
@@VideoGizmology It would be nice to have an audio cue that the button-press has been registered -- as is the case with my Sony camcorders. Another problem is that if you rotate the LCD screen 180 degrees so it's facing forwards such as when vlogging or talking to camera in studio without a cameraman, it becomes a naked feed so you can't see any stuff like audio levels, tally-light etc. Crazy! Also, the lack of a simple wireless remote is annoying -- you have to use the Panasonic app which is pretty cluttered on your average smartphone and doesn't even offer video preview for focus and framing.
Yeah, I can't believe all the display settings disappear when you flip the LCD 180. There are so many cameras that do that, not just the X1500.
A friend and I miss an audio signal. We often lose shots.@@xjet
@@iancruickshank9364 More details?
Does it has IR night shot setting?
Yes, that feature is buried in the menu. You can change the IR to green or white.
The one thing I'm having an issue with this camera is the focus. I shoot aircraft and before I bought this I would go to manual focus and set it to infinity. It was never an issue and the quality was good. When I do the same with this camera, the picture quality is very good but when you go to zoom all the way you lose a fair bit of the picture quality (it gets fuzzy). As far as I can tell the digital zoom is off. I do need to be able to use the entire range of zoom on the camera because some of the subjects are a couple miles out or above me.
Examples:
Aerobatic aircraft: th-cam.com/video/mNVdWvYTucM/w-d-xo.html
Fighter: th-cam.com/video/p1ZNpIAIbzM/w-d-xo.html
Giant plane: th-cam.com/video/KOi70HurE5w/w-d-xo.html
is good panasonic.. i use lumix g7
This camcorder is good if you need the features I listed. The X1500 is very different from the G7.
f 4 on 1 inch isn't f4 on ff btw, if u do f4 on ff u need to multiply by 3 due to sensor crop
can you mount on gimbal?
depends on the gimbal. I would say the smaller gimbals that are designed for mirrorless cameras might be too small for the X1500. The weight is not the issue, it's the length. As long as you have a gimbal that can fit the length of the X1500 (10" with hood), then it should work.
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anyone know if this camera does IR or night vision recording?
Yes, it has IR mode. It's buried in the menu system, so you need to activate it.
Which is your fave codec ?
I might switch frame rates, but I like the MOV codec at UHD 4K 4:2:2 10-Bit 150Mbps
@VideoGizmology Thanks. It's so confusing. Sooo many options. /But I'll go with this 1. THANKS.
Used the camera on a gimbal for college baseball at Globelife'
I have this camcorder under 2020.??
amazing camcorder but I expected better rolling shutter performance consider far less sensor size 😭
usually the larger sensors have better rolling shutter, not smaller ones. If you compare iPhones or other smart phone cameras, those have crazy rolling shutter issues because the sensor is tiny, among other reasons.
@@VideoGizmology yeah but how it translates to fuji gfx cameras and hasselblad electronic shutter.. I'm confused 😅
How does this work in full auto mode?
There is a switch by the LCD screen that changes the camera from AUTO to MANUAL. Once you switch it to AUTO, you loose all manual exposure and white balance control. As far as I know, you are unable to override any auto control when you're in AUTO mode. You can still manually set your codec, resolution, and frame rate, but everything else is automatic.
I think the auto mode handles the exposure pretty well, but I would personally never use full AUTO. And I don't recommend the X1500 if you're only going to use full AUTO mode. There are camcorders $1000 or less that are better designed for full AUTO all the time.
Having said that, I will use certain exposure settings on auto. When you are in MANUAL, you can tell the camcorder which exposure settings you want auto or manual, so I will often lock the white balance, shutter, and gain, and then leave the Iris on auto.
can the camera do a good bokeh??
Short answer is no. Long answer is: Like all cameras with small sensors, the way to achieve bokeh is a combination of zooming in the lens to around a 200mm or more, then distance your subject from the background, then light your subject brighter than the background. This technique has been used from the beginning of camcorders and still is the most organic way to create bokeh with small sensor cameras.
Thats a tiny little sensor. There are 20 year old point and shoot digicams with larger sensors. If you dont need 4K 60p, you are much better off getting the Panasonic FZ2500 for half the price. You get a larger, 1 inch sensor and a faster lens.
It depends on your needs. I've owned the FZ2500 and have made several videos about it on my channel, so I know that camera well: th-cam.com/video/qglzL-BOn34/w-d-xo.htmlsi=YgaoYocAt1k2eRLW
While having similar attributes, most of my reasons for why the X1500 is the best camcorder for its budget are still reasons to get it over the FZ2500, as long as those reasons matter to you. If you have other needs that don't require a camcorder, then get the FZ2500. I agree, the larger 1-inch sensor and much lower price can be a huge selling factor if that's what matters most to you. However, the FZ2500 falls short in battery life, zoom lens range, codecs (except DCI 4K), and XLR inputs with top handle. If those don't matter to you as much, then get the FZ2500 or something else.
Frankly the only thing that matters is the result. And camcorders with small sensors are able to deliver stunning results too.
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It’s a cmos sensor?
Yes. Most, if not all, camcorders only use CMOS sensors.
I wish Panasonic would do an S52 in this form factor. I never shoot stills and just want a camera that looks the part that has internal ND. I'm so done with alle these budget cinema focused slr's that make me look like a photographer.
There have been cameras like this. Check out the JVC LS300. I did a video on it: th-cam.com/video/iAs-otR8Dd0/w-d-xo.htmlsi=OcTi4g3OPREhTx0j
Panasonic looks at 4/3 and FF, I think, in cinema terms. They have made box cameras in both formats -- better suited to cinematic shooting that the still camera shape. But not camcorder style for FF yet, but they have for M43, like the AF100. So maybe not a lost cause, but it doesn't look good.
I don't really get where Panasonic or, really, anyone sees traditional camcorders going. I wrote elsewhere here, questioning why they used the tiny sensor on the X1500 when they sell the FZ2500, with 1" sensor and a tonne of video features, long lens, NDs, etc. for significantly less money... But the wrong shape for serious video.
I shoot with a Panasonic 1500 camera sporting events Enduro and motocross the perfect choice max satisfaction!
Yeah, this camcorder is excellent for sporting events.
manufacturers could think again about making this type of camera instead of focusing on hybrid and mirrorless cameras, this camera/camcorder body is much better than dslr and mirrorless bodies, a more robust body that has cooling capacity, that has a better grip for filming, as fimmakers we don't want to take photographs, we want to make films. so we need cameras in this more retro format and the camcorder standard.
While I agree with you, camera companies already make digital cinema cameras that are designed for filmmakers. The traditional camcorder was always marketed toward ENG, event video, corporate, documentary, and TV. Some filmmakers used camcorders, but it was generally viewed as a lesser option. So digital cinema cameras are the way to go for most filmmakers these days.
Looks like the Sony FDR AX 53 just met its match 👌🏽
When considering price, the AX53 can still be a good option for people. It's got great image stabilization and is best used on full auto, so it's perfect as a family camcorder, which is what Sony has been marketing that camera for.
handheld?
What is the question?
@@VideoGizmology there are a few shots that seem insanely stable, like the one of the ambulance. Was that handheld or on a tripod?
Every single sample video clip from the Panasonic X1500 in this video was all done handheld.
@@VideoGizmology stunning! This is some incredible stabilisation
@@VideoGizmology thankz
I'll wait for the Chinese version.
Can you run this camera off an external power supply?
If you mean plugging the camera into AC wall power, yes. It comes with an AC power supply, so you can plug the camera into house power and run it all day. But if you mean using an external battery, then also yes, but you'll need the proper DC adapter to connect your specific battery to the DC tap on the X1500. I don't know why you'd need that, though, because the batteries already last over 4 hours and with a few extra batteries, you can film all day.
I record baseball games. I run my cameras without the batteries in them to prevent overheating, so I connect external power supplies with usbc
The battery is not good after fiw time fall down
They need to put the 4/3 chip in
Panasonic has been the only camera company to actually do this with their AG-DVX200 back in 2015. No other prosumer camcorder has ever had a sensor that big before or since then. I used the DVX200 and personally didn't think the image quality compared to a GH4 at the time amongst other issues, but there are people that loved that camera. I think there are reasons why Panasonic has never made any follow up models to the DVX200. I suspect there isn't a huge market for it and it's probably too costly to produce.
clearly footage is 10x better with the panasonic Siix.
haha. Yeah, I was laughing a bit when I said which camera has better image quality. So that was sort of a joke. Those cameras are two different tools. However, I was curious if these two cameras could be intercut if you shot multicam. In good lighting conditions, I think they could match when using different focal lengths, so use the S5 IIX for a wide shot and the X1500 for close ups or vice versa.
J'en ai eu une, je l'ai revendue, trop grosse, stabilisation compliquée, trop grosse pour moi, utile pour un vidéaste pointu, je ne le suis plus, c'est la vie, j'ai deux autres caméras plus petite beaucoup plus petite, ça me suffit. Sinon très bon outil semi-pro.
I watched all whole video and realized you're not talking about INR😂
What is INR?
Top handle in a hot shoe - is very bad idea! Приккреплен он обычно на 4 коротеньких, тоненьких болтика, которые совсем не рассчитаны на такие нагрузки. Бывают такие камеры на которых он особенно хлипкий...
I disagree, the cold shoe was designed for the Panasonic XLR handle, so another handle should be fine. It's only a problem if you attach a lot of heavy accessories to the camera body and then lift the entire rig with the top handle, but if you just use the top handle for the light weight camera, you should be fine.
@@VideoGizmology только XLR handle крепится винтом 1/4 и большим квадратным пазом, а в башмак она просто вставляется для дополнительной фиксации.
I would much rather hear about what people dont like about it.
I said what I didn't like about this camcorder at 5:11
I own two of them, the menu is a disaster, lowlight can't do anything. As a c camera yes, in good light outside it can score points again. Comparable to a smartphone with a large lens.
at this price there really is no better alternative, and you have to have studied the camera, logic is different.
Yeah, I agree. I think this is the best in its price range because we have no alternatives. haha. The current camcorder market has been clearly segmented, where manufacturers give consumers very little options depending on the features they need. I guess it makes sense from their business perspective, since once you buy a camcorder, you don't really need anything else, but when you buy a mirrorless camera, they can always upsell you on the lenses and accessories, so they make more money over time.
It has a smaller sensor than most celphones.. .LOL
If all I cared about and judged in a camcorder is the sensor size and didn't consider any other variables that are reasons for people to want the X1500, then yes, like you, I'd LOL, too.
So basically you need to study videography to use that one or any other ..
Not necessarily. The X1500 has a switch to go full AUTO, so if you know nothing and still want this camera, you can use it on full AUTO. This applies to most cameras. I personally use my iPhone's camera on full auto all the time and I'm satisfied with the results.
It's bonkers that they are selling small sensor and fixed lens for $1700😮
It's the lack of competition. There aren't many other camcorders that can do what the X1500 can do, so Panasonic can charge premium $$$. And it addresses a different video market than mirrorless cameras, action cameras, and cinema cameras, so it becomes an even smaller community who needs the features that the X1500 offers.
Thaer is no Audio Chanel sir
Sorry, I don't understand what you're referring to.
@@VideoGizmology audio section
23.98fps does not equal 24fps
I bought it about 3 years ago, I use it in church, and I'm not that happy with it, its quality when transmitting live is very poor.
Have you tried the Panasonic CX10? I believe that camera is better optimized for livestreaming with an included ethernet connection. Otherwise, when I livestream, I do it using HDMI through an Elgato capture device or a video mixer.
Good review. As you said, the picture can look crappy in high contrast situations. th-cam.com/video/oOjAjTczVno/w-d-xo.htmlsi=dl85QR5bHwojYAiI&t=334 looks really bad compared to the shots I got with my older Panasonic WX970. $1500+ seems a tad pricey for the few added features. Seems like all these cameras should be halved in price given what's out there these days.
If you're curious, I did a comparison between the Panasonic CX10 and VX1, which are basically like comparing the X1500 to the WX970. th-cam.com/video/nC3YNd9STKA/w-d-xo.htmlsi=xnlre02zAlvaITZ8
For certain situations, they look very similar. However, once you start filming in many different scenarios, the CX10/X1500 is just a more consistent and controllable professional-style camera verses the VX1/WX970. I wouldn't trust a VX1/WX970 on paying video jobs, but I'll trust the CX10/X1500.
Because the camcorder market is so small, these manufacturers can get away with charging high prices for those extra control/consistency features. I agree, the X1500 should be in the $1,200 range or lower, not $1,500+, but until another company comes out with a better cheaper camera to challenge the market, the price will always be more than we think it's worth.
Как всегда видео с микроматрицы ужасно: мылит, меняет цвета, динамический диапазон как у смартфона 2014года. Зачем это сравнение - не пойму. В 2024 году смартфон снимает лучше любого камкодера, если не зумировать.
A traditional camcorder is not for everyone. My video is for people who need what a traditional camcorder offers verses other types of cameras. I highlighted those features in my video. If you don't need those features, then this camera is not for you.
I made the comparison to a full frame mirrorless camera more to see if you could match the cameras under certain scenarios. Obviously, the full frame mirrorless camera with 422 10-bit V-LOG will be better image quality than the X1500, but under specific conditions, you could match them. Why would you want to? Well, some people, like myself, happen to own both cameras, and I shoot live events, documentaries, and music, so for me, it helps, for other people, probably not.
1/2.5-type (inch) MOS Sensor ?? LOLLL
I know, that's what everyone criticizes. But according to a Panasonic rep, having that small of a sensor allowed them to pack in other features that you don't see in camcorders at this price range, such as a 25mm-600mm f/1.8-f/4 zoom lens, 5-axis image stabilization, which is one of the best on any camcorder, 4:2:2 10-Bit codecs, and 4K/60p. So there had to be trade-offs and they sacrificed sensor size.
The Panasonic x1500 image sensor size is too small, it's just more than a Mobile camera sensor. Atleast 1″-Type or 4/3 sensor is needed, costing is too high.
I am running Film Making Classes & Basic to Advanced Editing Class.
Yes, small sensors are not ideal for cinematic filmmaking. A traditional camcorder isn't the right tool for everyone. However, there are many situations where a small sized sensor doesn't matter or is actually preferred, so having a small sensor size needs to judged based on what you're filming and the style you are going for. And if you need a camcorder under $2k, the X1500 is one of the best options available today.
Too dark recording.
What did you find too dark? When filming outdoors, I wanted to show you the dynamic range of the camcorder in a standard filming mode, so I exposed for the highlights, meaning, I wanted the clouds and sky to be seen and not blown out. If I left this camera on autoexposure, the sky would be completely white with no image information. Modern cameras, and even your smart phone camera, have ways to fix this issue with HDR modes. However, those are done internally and depends on the camera to how good and natural that will look.
@@VideoGizmology - Thanks for reply. I am not in videography but my comment is based on my previous experience with Panasonic cameras. There dynamic range was similarly low ,with blown highlights. My point was I was expecting much more improved performance in today's time. Even my Samsung smartphone handle tricky lighting conditions with low light very well. So I was Just comparing dedicated equipment and outcome.
Why don't they put bigger sensors in these damn things?
Bottom line is cost and current technology limitations. If Panasonic put a larger sensor in a camcorder body with a 25mm-600mm lens, it would be, like $25,000 or more. Panasonic tried to put a larger sensor in a camcorder body with their DVX200, but that didn't sell very well, so they never improved it or released a newer model.
@@VideoGizmology The reason the Panasonic X1500 has such a large zoom is because it has such a small sensor. There is no need for it to have that much zoom, in exchange for increasing the size of the sensor. It would improve sensitivity and dynamic range.
Panasonic X1500 with a 1" sensor would be a much more attractive camcorder, like the old Sony AX700, or Canon GX10, from 2017.
I would buy it because I'm looking for something like that, like the Panasonic X1500, or the old Canon GX10. I also like the Sony AX700 a lot, but it records at 4K 30p in 8 bits, I think the GX10 also records at 8 bits in 4K.
I think that due to the shortage of semiconductors since 2020, manufacturers choose to put these very small sensors, but at the price of a larger sensor.
You may find no need for a 25-600mm zoom lens, but other people do need or prefer that. There is nothing like a 4K 422 10-bit camcorder with 25-600mm lens on the market at under $1,700, so the X1500 is filling that gap.
If you prefer a 1" sensor with a shorter zoom range, Panasonic offers the X2/X20, but with prices of $2,600/$3,200. If you don't like what Panasonic camcorders offer, Sony, Canon, and JVC are alternatives. Unfortunately, your perfect camcorder will never exist, the best you can do is find one with the least amount of compromises for your needs.
Very disappointing with my panasonic X1500, my 5 year old sony Ax700 is far superior Auto Focus and I am a camcorder guy
Interesting. I've never used the AX700. Could you expand on the features that makes the AX700 work better for you than the X1500?
I just don’t know why such a camera is needed.
This camcorder is for those who need 4K 4:2:2 10-bit at frame rates up to 60p with a 25mm-600mm zoom range, good autofocus, full manual exposure controls, and long battery life. Such filming scenarios include: nature and wildlife videography, outdoor sports, live events, family videos, documentaries, field journalism, church services, and multi-cam conferences and concerts.
Now you can use other cameras for those scenarios as well, but if you need one under $1,700, you're not going to have many options besides this one. So it really comes down to all the features I mentioned and the price.
@@VideoGizmology,This is understandable, but...
Who is its user?
There are better cameras for professionals. And professionals have money for a better camera; this is their main tool.
Would an ordinary tourist take such a camera with him on a trip? No!
It has no stabilization and is large in size. Yes, the zoom is good. But is it worth the money and size problems?!
I chose a camera for travel and other things the size of a chocolate bar, with excellent stabilization, with a price tag 3 times cheaper than this one, with 4K 4:2:2 recording, 10-bit HDR with frame rates up to 60p, and even 120 at 130 mGbps. Yes, it does not have a zoom, but practice has shown that there is no point in it. We don't constantly look at the world through binoculars. In the past, when video quality was poor, scaling would help bring out details. Now the quality is as if I see it with my own eyes, and there is less meaning in it. However, I used the zoom when all cameras had it to bring the static image to life. It's missing
Based on what you're saying you need a camera for, this X1500 is just not for you. You can't say no one will use this, because they do use it. It's just not for you. There are plenty of professional and semi-professional videographers who buy the X1500. There are professionals at every budget level. The X1500 has stabilization. I started this video showing you how good the stabilization is at 600mm. The zoom lens is exactly the reason why a lot of people buy this. Obviously, you don't need that zoom, but other people do. The X1500 is just not for you.
@@VideoGizmology ,
No, this camera does not have stabilization that would allow you to shoot on the go. So, basically, there is no camera!
I know this camera is not for me. I already use one that flies behind me while working as an operator and controls itself, while fitting into my pocket. And the price is 4 times less. And she will zoom just by flying closer)
And here it doesn’t even fit into your pocket, it’s just some kind of zoom
Therefore, I ask who these people are who need to... peep through the window of the neighboring house)))
WTF is gain?
Gain is like ISO on a film camera. It digitally increases the sensitivity of the sensor.
need at least a 1' sensor inside, the camera is over priced if you ask me lol
If you think this is overpriced, check out the 1" sensor camcorders from every current manufacturer on the market. Canon charges a ludicrous $6K-$7K for their XF705. None of them are cheap unless you buy used or an old model. The X1500 is priced fairly to what the market is. I don't like it either, but that's the reality.
The Signa fo is cheaper, 4k uhd cdng files
If the Sigma FP is the camera that works for you, then great. It's very different from a camcorder like the X1500, though.
@@VideoGizmology okay, just saying, from a price point perspective, the fp runs circles around the x1500
I'm assuming you're just comparing image quality and nothing else. So sure, the Sigma will look objectively superior, but so will a lot of other cheaper mirrorless cameras. The X1500 is a different tool from the Sigma FP. They do not have the same consumer market.
For example, you can't get a 25mm-600mm lens for the Sigma. It doesn't exist. You would have to buy a set of lenses for $$$$. Then compare your use case. If you shoot an all day wedding or concert event, the Sigma can't handle long form continuous filming. The codec is fine for small clips, but try shooting 6 hours straight for a 3 day event. The camera will overheat. Your batteries will die. And you'll max out your media or pay $$$$ for lots of cards and storage.
Now you may not film weddings or long events, etc. and that's your personal situation. But other people who film those kinds of content would much rather have an X1500 than a Sigma FP. So when you start factoring in other variables, the Sigma does not run circles around the X1500.
@@VideoGizmology You made some very good points!
no LOG means no buy. Rubbish. Thank you for great review!
Yeah, no LOG might be a deal breaker for some people, but putting this into perspective, LOG is fairly new to cameras in general and even when it was first available to the consumer market, LOG was in 420 8-bit, not 422 10-bit. There are very few camcorders that offer LOG with 422 10-bit color and the ones that do are thousands of dollars.
@@VideoGizmology Even 4-2-0 8bit is "okaish", much better then not having it. Most Sony product has LOG for long time, while Panasonic either didn't gave it, or ask additional money (as for some GH-series) cams.
I'd go for Sony RX10 instead of this
@@VideoGizmology And, it should be noted, the workflow associated with camcorders rarely does benefit from having a Log recording option. You want a crisp image in a handy format that can be ingested quickly, edited quickly, and delivered quickly. A newsroom won't touch the footage beyond some basic correction, and for that sort of thing, a flat profile like Cine-V will be enough.
Sure, it'd be great to have the option, but Panasonic knows that for most people getting this camera it's not gonna be a dealbreaker.
Alas, camcorder was the in product 2 decades ago. How time flies. Is it still a thing?
Smart phone cameras pretty much replaced the camcorder for the majority of users. However, there is still a market for camcorders for hobbyist and professionals that work in sports, live events like concerts/conferences/weddings, news, documentary, and nature. So yes, it's still a thing.
Why take pictures with a machine heavier than a hammer when you can take pictures with a smartphone? Isn't that crazy?
I don't think I understand what you're saying, could you clarify or elaborate?
Professionals laugh at you ,,
Hollywood won’t be going to smart phones because real cameras are far superior
sensor matters. 😂
Try recording at night time with your smart phone bro then your gonna see why you might need a real camera and lens