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UCI Illegal TRIGON AR01 | Ollie’s Taiwan KOM Challenge Bike
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 18 ส.ค. 2024
- This is the ultra lightweight bike Ollie rode at the Taiwan KOM Challenge 2023. The frame is the super light carbon TRIGON AR01, which he paired with the ROTOR 2INpower SL dual-sided power meter and 40mm carbon Drive wheels from Elitewheels. He takes you through the full bike specs, does a freehub soundcheck and weighs this UCI illegal set-up!
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00:00 Intro
00:25 TRIGON AR01 Frame
04:12 ROTOR 2INpower SL Power Meter
07:00 Elitewheels Drive Wheels
09:16 Accessories & Saddle
10:47 Weight
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Do you have any questions for Ollie about this bike? 🚲👇
Yes! How does it climb?
0:40 Hey! Hey! Rings mysteriously go from biggie-smalls, to smallie-smalls, back to biggie-smalls
Is there a way of figuring what saddle is best suited to you, without trying different ones? (i.e. having g to buy or borrow lots of different ones to find one that works best!?)
Love the setup. My favorite bit is the engine pushing those pedals. Much better than the engine pushing my bike's pedals😂😂😂
Will it fall apart if it's cleaned with Fairy Liquid?
It's great to see that the EliteWheels brand also being shown off in mainstream. DRIVE are their top end performance range but I have had one of their more budget carbon wheelsets for over a year now, and they are fantastic.
Elite is just cheap Chinese junk that might be safe enough going slow up hill once, but would be foolish to ride fast downhill or ride every day. Just more AliExpress shilling 😂
yeah man! i’m really impressed with them
Agree, the only downside I have with them is that after ordering via the official shop at Ali, they force you to upgrade to expensive shipping because the standard shipping (they themselves offer in the shop) is not available (?!). And after that, they say they cannot deliver in the provided timeframe and say you have to extend. Feels a little scammy to be honest.
@@jwstoop Where are you based? I had no issues with delivery.
@@matt_acton-varian The Netherlands, and let me be clear: i'm really happy with the quality of the wheels (i have 4 Elite sets) and WAS an advocate of them. But I've had this same discussion with two orders now and im honestly finding it quite disturbing that they force you to pay extra and extend timeframes as a no choice option.
Elite wheels on GCN - shocker!!! Using their products for 5 years now, about 4 or 5 sets
I did not expect this
How have you found them over the last 5 years?
@@gcntechexpensive 🥺 (especially when one is living in a country that the-Minimum-Wage is “less-than $1-per-hour-before-Taxes-&-Deductions” 🥺).
Fully agree on brake rotors on road bike being too small. Especially large frame sizes should come with adapter-free mounting of larger rotor sizes.
Needs to be 622mm really
Maybe braking on the rim would be a good option. And instead of oil just a cable and easy to replace brake pads
Do you think bigger rotors will become the norm on all road bikes?
@@gcntech I don‘t think so because bikes are built for 60kg pros. Maybe on gravel bikes.
It’s a well know fact that trigon is: Great Go Cycles which has been making frames and components for companies like Pinarello, Blue, Leopard and FSA for years
The certainly know how to make a great bike! This one is no exception 👀
I'm happy to hear Ollie say non pro ride could be better off using larger disc rotors. I have a hybrid which I have had for a number of years. It originally had 160/160mm rotors. I did change the brakes not long after I got my hybrid. When I did change the brakes I went for 180/160mm rotors. When I recently changed the brake again. I still went for the 180/160mm rotors. I currently have Goodyear Eagle F1 tyres in 32mm. I have had no issues with stopping on this tyre and brake set up.
Yes very good point must maximise stopping power on a hill climb 😂
I'm still managing just fine with lightweight rim brakes without problems ......
There needs to be a press here to purchase this bike feature. Mega cool Ollie!
A bare carbon saddle is a great indicator of bike fit... if you can't ride one comfortably, your bike may need adjusting.
been riding elitewheels SLT for a couple of years now! a very good brand and super prices too.
When he did the free wheel sound test the waterfall behind him made it look like smoke was coming out of the BB 😂
Ollie really does have some crazy power 💪
I have Elites Drive 50’s on my lightweight Aethos. At 1300g the little extra aero comes at a small price.
GCN presenters and Worst Retirement Ever times at the Taiwan KOM Challenge
Benjamin DYBALL AUS 03hrs 16 (Record time)
Vicenzo Nibali ITA 03hrs 19
Simon Yates GBR Jayco-AlUla 03 hrs 35
Oliver Bridgewood GBR 03hrs 56
Emma Pooley GBR 04hrs 08
Simon Richardson GBR 04hrs 11
Matt Stephens GBR 04hrs 19
Need Phil to take on this climb
@@lordalfa600phil did it the same year as Si and Matt. He came in 6th at 3:28:58. He's in the GCN video, but also did his own.
50-34 chainrings are probably the best for the terrain in Taiwan
I would go even smaller, even a decently fit rider needs something like a 46/30 11-34
@@astrayagrarian I’m currently running 48-31T rings with a 11-34T cassette, and it helps me keep my cadence going up those 10%+ roads. I can probably go back to 50-34 rings after I lose 10kgs
Brilliant. What an effort…. Good on ya, mate.
Ollie smashed it! He also had the perfect bike for the the job 🙌
Very nice. And I completely agree with you about 180mm rotors. Very few people saying that so thanks for speaking up about it. Even most XC bikes are still coming with 160mm rotors on the rear and those bikes are quite a bit heavier. But we just love to emulate the pros.
Bigger rotors for the win! 🙌 Do you think 180 should be the new standard?
@@gcntech Not until the pros do it because we all want to be like the pros to our own detriment.
100% agree on the rotors. I’m a heavier guy and run larger rotors with 4 pot callipers on my trail mtb. Its an older bike that an upgraded myself but I think a lot of brands are going that way too now
It'll be interesting to see if bigger rotors become the norm soon 👀
Wow!! Good Luck & Welcome to TW !!
I like watching these kind of videos. I have dreams of building an extreme weight weenie bike sometime in the future. The UCI has no jurisdiction on the streets!
We love a weight weenie wagon! Let us know what you build, if you need some inspo our hill climb hot tech is the place to go 👉th-cam.com/video/S39O4AI32uI/w-d-xo.html
Ollie's "love you, bye" never fails to make me smile!
He's full of catch phrases this lad!
Unreal 💪🏻💪🏻 looking forward to the challenge video more 😍
The wait is over 👉th-cam.com/video/GG3Cs-xZ1Cc/w-d-xo.html
@@gcntech yes I saw both on Sunday when I commented
Nice bike. Good luck with the KOM challenge
super light!
& pretty color!
Congratulation'sand and Well Done 27th out of 1000 very Impressive
yes indeed, a lovely bike olli,
This frame is over $4,000 with a handlebar/stem and seatpost. That puts it in the same price bracket as some well-known, top-end bike shop sold competition. I'm sure the Trigon is a quality product, but that's absurd pricing for a DTC frame from a brand no one has heard of. For comparison, the excellent and proven Winspace T1550 aero frame costs $2,070 with Winspace's aero one piece handlebar/stem.
6.66 with pedals and bottle cages is super sweet.
6.66 is indeed super impression and lighter than any bikes on the tour, but years ago, the Factor bike that his buddy Sly's rode was only 6.2.. people tend to forget that after we all switched to riding disc
This color is way better than bronze/gold. It reminds me of the sea. Very nice.
LOVE the color.
Dr O Bridgewood Esq, has been banging on for years now that weight doesn’t matter it’s all aero this that an’ t’other, but when the chips are down he runs for the lightweight. Sensible choice, just like for those of us that live ‘oop north (England) where it’s only hills 🤣 The ride looked absolutely stunning!!!
In his defense, he was talking about road race, not climbing.
@@williamko4751 nope, definitely when it comes to climbing. You can watch all the GCN content on it.
weight matters in hill climbs
Overgeared Ollie, should have gone compact, 50-34, no one ever said I wish I had higher gears whilst climbing a mountain 😂. It would have saved weight too 😮
Exactly
People and their ego.
The way I see it, even if you were on compact 50/34 and an 11-32 cassette, realistically how often are you going to be using the 50/11,12,13,14 combo? If you want to go faster down hill, just tuck.
@@astrayagrarian
Well maybe he wants to go somewhere flatter after, or even descend the mountain 😂
50/14 is only 28 mph at 100 rpm. I'd still be peddling then and would be grateful for harder gears if conditions allowed. Heaven forbid you'd ever want to sprint 😂
Love this color way better than the other, gorgeous bike
We all know colour is the most important thing! 🙌
Fully loaded to be precise, I would say, fully loaded bike! 🙌🏾✌🏾
Another upvote for larger rotors on road bikes here. But for me it's stopping power. While bike touring I have an extra 25kg on my bike and I am bombing down mountains up to 90kph with 38mm slick tyres. In those cases I could to with significantly more stopping power. Why do we reserve this for mountain bikes which have less grip and are going slower?
An 'ultralight' bike the same weight as a 13 year old aero Cervelo. Im sure those rotors were useful going uphill! I think it would be interesting if you included the 'all in' price of the bikes you're reviewing for context?
Exactly what I was thinking.
you have to consider the stiffness. I doubt the stiffness level of a bike 13 years ago is the same as a tier 1 bike in 2023. Or else carbon fiber tech really haven't improved at all in 13 year? I don't buy that.
@@conceptcs that point is moot, because even strong riders are not able to feel flex in carbon fiber frame, nor have been able to for frameset that have been produced for the past 15 years or so
@@astrayagrarian you can't feel it, doesn't mean it's not there.
Fun videos to do next year would be to do both the Tour des Stationes and this one with the Eurobike. Those would be some fun videos 😊
Hahahah we'll rally up the troops but don't be surprised if there aren't many takers 👀
@@gcntechwaiting for you guys to upgrade that bike then push it to its limits
great video Ollie!666 the beast Six so sick😂
Was that a bit of a dad 'oof' when you got up? Peak physical fitness in every other way, but still can't stand up without making a noise?!
My next bike....for sure....
1st saw this frameset from chinacycling, cant wait for a collab with Joe!
The blue one would suit you more that's my opinion
I can’t believe Ollie gave up 30g on the saddle. 😅
Best of luck
How much heavier was Si’s bike when he completed the KOM?
Are you calling for a rematch? 👀
That bike looks good.
I would have chosen the blue like colour.
I love the colour blue.
Combined with black and silver it would look perfect.
Just like it choose for the Orbea GAIN M10i. The time you had to design you own bike.
Was hoping you were going talk about your stem sticker. Did you use a particular app or site?
That hidden charge port at center of chainring is really cool... but cool enough to accept a proprietary plug, which everybody hates?
AR01 makes it sound like an alloy frame.
This one is way better looking!!
Super performance, Ollie! I'd opt for 50-34 chainring but hey - if you have the legs... Really impressive. One question regarding the handlebars with the integrated climbing shifters. Found them online but cannot find out if they're gonna work with 11-speed Di2 Ultegra...yours is 12-speed, clearly. Would you help, please? Thank a lot!
As a big guy (86kg), who's been bigger, let me also jump on the bigger rotors wagon. 160's are ok, but, geez, 180's would make me feel better.
I could then also standardize my rotors across my mtb, road and gravel bikes.
Ollie learned to say Selle Italia properly 😱 not Seller Italia 😅
British people add an ‘r’ after a word that ends in a vowel if the next word starts in a vowel. I had a British professor that used to do that & I guess it’s pretty common.
I know, intrusive R it's called. It's like italians adding "e" after every word. Every country has a thing i guess 😅
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I would like to see a video of GCN presenters riding bikes they would have to buy them selves with out sponsorship from the likes of Pinarello Canyon etc this would be real world cycling for most us
That won t happen….
Great Bike my Emonda ALR is at 7,5 KG not bad for Alloy. When comes the The UCI has no restriction Here?
622 rotors for the win.
Where does Trigon take their 38cm measurement from, O-O, C-C or from the outside of the drops?
China Cycling just talked about this bike last week
Is there a version of this bike that doesn't say Trigon on the downtube?
Omg. *Looks at the weight.*
*Proceeds to pray*
#ASKGCNTECH Can installing tubes into a currently tubeless setup be a long term option? I have ridden a current gravel tire and wheel setup as tubeless for about 3 years but the TWI still shows lots of available tread remaining on the tires. I recently removed the tires from the wheels to clean out the old sealant but now they will not reseat even though I removed a lot of sealant and the bead seems clean. After many attempts to remount the tire I am now consider just installing tubes. I know installing a tube works as a puncture repair to get back home. But, is it advisable or not to use them long term?
"nice narrow and aero" haha cool phrase
What's the size of this frame?
Ollie how did you go down the mountain? This should be a worth descent, unless you do it in a bus.
Looks like it has a speed sniffer
On rim brakes, the rotor is 29 inches in diameter!
BTW I also produce frames for UCI teams. Can't say which, sadly.
Should start posting the Strava links to the rides you're talking about in the details of the video. Don't you guys have some kinda partnership with Strava??
Anyone know which BlackInc handlebars these are?... I can't see any with holes for integrated button shifters?
black tec
the super secret way, isn't stikers under paint ?
Why is there a UCI sticker on the bike? Im confused.
Is it a coincidence that the weight of 6.66 kg and the waterfalls behind you stop over the course of the video? As for the bike build, well thought out though you must be strong to use a 52/36 crank on a hill climb.
When Ollie talks about handlebar width, does he mean outer to outer or centre to centre? Only ask as there’s no standard for companies which is annoying
Are they half the price of the known, brands that we have heard of ?
Even more than half less. Have them for 1 year now and absolutely love them
A Pinarello F frame set (handlebars not included) is 7.000 USD
Trigon All rounder frame is 4.045.
Do with that info what you will.
I wouldn't buy neither.
the bronze colourway
If I had a reading of 666 👀, I would immediately change something… 😂
Yep lets go for really large rotors....700 maybe ;-)
6.66 for disc. How much if rim brakes?
Exactly, climbing with disc, not a single good reason.
Who cares
Take off 500g... Prob around 6.2kg
Do you really need electronic shipping for climbing bike?
Aren’t 180 mm rotors more likely to rub?
wow....
Could have borrowed Andrew Feathers new Cannondale? 🎉
You forgot to take out the water bottles & pedals when weighing. Plus you should have opted for the rim brakes and it would have been under 6kg
How did they grind up a t-800 terminator and turn it into carbon 😂
3:00 - it probably makes sense in the mountains - but isn't MvdP a guy who rides (and wins) on 140mm rotors?
With a dedicated bike mechanic that can swap the rotors every nights ^^
@@MaximEck96 I wouldn't be surprised if it was the case in cyclocross.
I do have 160mm and 203mm rotors - the former (paired with metallic pads) are on the winter wheels. I didn't notice a significant difference in wearing rates between them.
@@PrzemyslawSliwinski Maybe you also tent to ride slower, with more anticipation in winter time due to slipery roads/paths thus using less the brakes. My commuting bike has the original rotor and pads that look brand new after 10'000km whereas I had to change 2 times the pads and once the rotor on the roadbike.
Yup! @@MaximEck96, makes sense.
But did Ollie learn the Mandarin for;
THE UCI HAS NO JURISDICTION HERE!
The UCI has no jurisdiction in here !! Haha😅
So which brands?
Trigon!
i really effing hate it when people say "oh this manufacturer makes bikes for others but i cant tell you or sth along those lines" like eff me, 1. its not giving us any extra confidence regarding the qualiy, 2. if it really is of such high quality, why use other bike brands that you manufacture for to promote your own brand instead of making a name for yourself (by whatever means possible), sides no one can verify that statement, so using somethng that may or may not be true to promote a brand and its product that may or may not be good just sounds like a effing scam
My view is the UCI’s rules should be complied with even outside of competition 😃
Why?
All great 👍 why different rotors? That saddleback is unnecessary since he has support from the cameraman, it disrupts the look …
Because, sponsor.
Why such a heavy bike for a KOM ride? Why not go rim brakes and really get the marginal gains optimised?
Im a bike mechanic too. Disc is too much faff to travel with for zero gains on road race bikes.
Disc for dirt. Rim for road.
Aero dimples? Impressive! I'd love to see these tested in a wind tunnel with colored smoke, to see if they perform as described by the maker. I'd be quite disappointed if instead they are aero marketing bullshit... which I half expect. Please test!
If weight matters so much why fit a presumably empty saddlebag?
Chain has wax residue on it...gramms losted there are enormous
Aero dimples are bs. At the Reynolds numbers of the slow fluid velocities of cycling they will need to be much larger to trip the air. See Ganna’s hour record bike. There’s a reason they had to make that bike out of aluminum.
Bigger rotors meh....unless you a very large person flying down massive hills there's little need for 180mm rotors. I even ran 140 front and rear and I'm living in the hills at 86 kgs. I'm back to 160 front it's more than enough.i have 180 front 160 rear on my XC MTB purely down to the extra bike weight
Nah! You don’t say 😂 you left your inner tube in your car. I believe you but thousands wouldn’t LOL
Color? Call it: Celeste-Like
Belive the brand they made start with P
I looked up the cost, it is too expensive for a non mainstream brand. But I guess they are trying to break into the market by getting GCN to advertise.
Trigon are an established manufacturer who have made frames for OEM Western brands who have started making their own. They have the knowledge and local pedigree but have only just started selling to Western markets, along with Winspace and Yeoleo.
@@matt_acton-varian I know all that, plus the fact that they also produce for two high end brands begins with the letter P.
TBH my point is that bike brands, along with everything else, are charging ridiculous prices since COVID because..they can and people are paying for it.
2024 will be interesting, with wiggle/chainreaction, as well as a prominent USA distributor all going south.. market may be crashing.
Nice colour bike BUT RED BIDONS!!??
GCN merch.
This is an AD, don't forget.
@@Onigure Yes but many factors better than the ads from Facebook, "specially selected for you" ;-) but RED? they do have other colours in their shop