“Not enough questions about peace”, that should send shivers down everyone’s spine. We’re so focussed on more conflict rather than a strategy to bring it to an end.
Wall Street's think tank & policy creator is the Council on Foreign Relations - Blinken and many of his family are members. The State Dept and the big Donors are the ones pushing this war to the max, for max profit & control - the Pentagon & even Biden are more realistic - so far. The Grayzone - an interview with top pentagon adviser Doug Macgregor. Don't miss it - for a more realistic view and some real issues of concern.
reporters would not let even ppl to surrender. let it be their choice will they save ppl and historic place and fight another day and surrender. be under seized and get bombed rejecting the surrender offer. they are not in caves bulidings may collapse. who knows let them decide. the reporters want blood more blood.
I remember when Jon had a recurring segment about Yemen on the Daily Show. Since then US media dropped to a complete radio silence about that conflict, which by the way, is still raging.
It almost boils down to Shiites and Sunnis hate each other and it's going to continue wither without anyone's involvement. And Saudi Arabia is determined to have a say in whatever government comes out of the Civil War.
@@serronserron1320 It's almost as if it was a genocide in which Saudi Arabia is massacring children in hospitals and schools with bombs given by the US.
"They're trapped in a business model that creates news as narratives. It's one thing to tell stories, it's another thing to direct them and start to try to shape them". Perfectly said.
I worked for a local newspaper when the London Underground bombing happened, and I have never seen a room of people respond to tragedy with such *glee* before. It put an end to my aspirations to make a career out of journalism.
We think we're civilized because we drive cars and have these incredible devices called smart phones but nothing could be further from the truth. Being civilized is a behavior pattern born of learned empathy. It's heartbreaking to see that total lack of empathy and it robs your soul. Sorry you had to experience that.
I was covering the Peace Talks in Colombia back in 2016. A bunch of reporters from everywhere in Cartagena. One day, there was this huge demonstration, thousands of people chanting for peace and so on. And then one reporter says 'it would be rad if police charges now. A bit of running, a bit of blood and this would be fantastic'. That's the moral standards in the job...
I absolutely love how much follow up there is to this show's features. It offers a lot of nuance and demonstrates how much Jon cares to understand the subjects he's bringing up.
He is full of crap. He knows that attacking the media is good for ratings. That is all he cares about. Its disgusting because this is exactly what he attacks the media for.
the moment the reporting adds anything commentary, it's not news. why can't america just stick to being news? there's many other countries with things happening all over the world worth reporting.
Thank you Nick, yes, the emperor has no clothes said the little kid, while the foolish adults gasped in horror! The CIA claims openly that they own the media and the reporters, what does tell you.
@@acasccseea4434 There's a balance. People want and need 'accurate' commentary from people who have nuanced takes on the matter. Nobody watched or liked Kronkite because of his ability to blindly read the news letter for letter as dry as the sahara. We humans are a species who likes connecting to other humans.
Worked for an NBC affiliate and I can confirm everything Henrik said as fact. I experienced the same thing while working in the late 90's early 2000s and at that time it was becoming even more of an issue as news was transitioning alongside the rise of the internet to become more sensationalized than it was in previous years. In the late 90s it hadnt become quite the ad driven monster it is today but you could see how it was changing due to a shift toward newsertainment or infotainment and that was spurred by the changing landscape of information in general.
That's the strange catch as well. Old enough to see the change occur but mention that change to the world today and get called an old republican conspiracy theorists.
I don't think Warhawk propaganda has become any more extreme that it has in the distant past. I was reading some of the old newspapers that justified the Civil War and the Spanish-American War in the conquest for the Philippines. The media has always been Sensational and in my opinion it's not as extreme now, and that's the scary part.
@@serronserron1320 I very much agree. I've been saying "people are people and always have been" for a few years. I'm only in my 30s so I don't have decades of experience but I've been in many different aspects of life. Only technology is new, not a single thing else about life is new. Same stuff different day.
such a great discussion. For me, the moment the I noticed this trend was the Virginia Tech shooting. First is was raw coverage, true news gathering. By 5 PM it was being called "the Virginia Tech Massacre" and by 9 PM it was nothing but roundtables and expert guest speculating. I was stunned by how quickly the event went from news coverage to new entertainment. Ever since that day I've noticed the same approach to any newsworthy story...only it's gotten much worse. I don't want to make this a free speech argument, but the media does have laws and regulations it must follow. The adage that you can't yell fire in a crowded theatre should apply, in it's own way, to news. News gathering vs new entertainment/opinions. there has to be a better way.
I noticed this when watching the 9/11 coverage unfold. They brought Tom Clancy on for comment. At that point I left to do other things and figured I come back in a day to find out more.
As a Syrian, watching the Ukrainians suffering I can only feel dead towards the response I know it all too well. Condemnation, and fake care from leaders and just prolong the conflict for whatever gains I honestly can't see.
Yes, let's gang up on Russia. Let's end this stupid war in Ukraine by starting another war with Russia and kill way way way more people in the process, right?? Let's start World War 3, people, c'mon!! Nice idea OP, you're a fckin genius. 👍🙃 . PS. Incase you didn't get it, I was being sarcastic with my comment there. Ok bye.
It's multilateral. US Isolating Russia politically and tiring them out with war and sanctions, making Ukraine a new Afghanistan. Severing EU ties and energy dependency with Russia, thus revitalizing NATO while also hurting EU economically, making them contribute militarily more to NATO while being more dependent on US. Generally rallying NATO countries around US for the upcoming global struggle against China-Russia. And of course the propaganda US=democracy=good, Russia=China=the devil himself
As a Syrian you will remeber how inaccurate john was on the story, accepting the narrative that everything was bashers fault when it was the salafi rebels, we now have proof that the chemical weapons where used only by the rebels and the western news hid the story as opposed to appologising.
I started using the term "Speculation Journalism" back in the early 2000's. I remember right before we went into Iraq, I was watching CNN, and they actually had military consultants on talking about "What Saddam Hussein is thinking about what the U.S. could be thinking about doing next." I remember yelling "Are you f***ing kidding me?!" The next hour was nothing but pure speculation from not only the show's anchors, but also the panel of "experts." Jon's description of "mission creep" is spot on.
@@matthewsocal2540 wow, a lot of assumptions there. For the record, I didn't sit through the whole hour. I changed to something else, and every time I flipped back, they were still speculating away, so I eventually gave it up. I still check out cable news from time to time, but not much during the evening, when it is mostly opinion. I stick to local newscasts and the local paper online for a lot of my news. If there are major events, the nightly national news is pretty short and sweet without an overwhelming amount of huff and puff. Sensationalism is par for the course, but I prefer the highpoints and straight reporting over the "what are they thinking" nonsense.
Now, speculate about why John Kerry (Skull and Bones and Sec of State) and Kirill, the Patriarch of the Russian Orthodox Church, both visited Antarctica between Trump's November 2016 victory and his inauguration in 2017. I'll start: The Archangel Base reported by Adm. Byrd, is real.
"Speculation news" -- that hits a sore spot. Watching that 15 minutes of data stretched out on CNN for a 24 hour news cycle as they interview the neighbors hair stylist for how they think Norman Swartzkopff's crew cut would affect a bombing campaign. The deeper story was that both Iraq wars were some machinations by the Bush cabal, but, they can get a lot more hours of viewers rambling on breathlessly about speculation based on what the state department says about Saddam Hussein -- without actually investigating the real Saddam Hussein. Who might not have been a great guy, but on balance, not a worse monster than when we supported him and he didn't kick out the oil companies. There was PLENTY of story to actually cover, but I think, everyone gets the unwritten message of where it's safe to tread, and nobody gets fired for reporting what the Pentagon says. If it's Madonna, they can investigate to titillate. If it's war, there's plenty of explosions to point the camera at while they ramble on about sorties and smart bombs. Three stories a day to sort the B-Roll into, ignore the rest.
This is truly excellent conversation. This issue has plagued me for decades as a visual journalist since I started working in the newspaper biz. Im so glad it is being properly discussed.
This must've been happening for a long time but the first time I noticed it was when CNN covered the Malaysian plane disappearance for like two straight months in 2014. Really opened my eyes when I saw their ratings were through the roof, that's why they were making a conscious choice to cover (and speculate on) it so much.
A lot of what is being discussed here reminds me of my early career. I entered the teaching field with some of the same young person idealism. I wanted to make a difference in the lives of my students. I ended up leaving the profession because that idealism was extinguished by the reality of every day roadblocks. I so much wanted to provide real world experiences and my proposals were constantly shot down by the powers of administration and rules that governed the profession.
This would be a perfect correlation to western journalism if what you were teaching was creationism. The big problem with journalism is not stories getting pulled or hushed, it is that the profession is populated by people who peddle nonsense because they believe it to be true.
My fiancé felt the same way and had to pivot to the other major of his double major. He expected it to be bad, but it was so much worse than he thought. It’s not just the reading level, but they basically had the minds of kids two or three years younger in terms of reasoning and ability to focus. Then the administration cooking the books to not get funding cut, reclassifying students. It was absolutely unbelievable.
I've worked In life skills classes many years. I wouldn't go back into the field. Not because of politics, but because of my first and only "active shooter drill". I'd never felt so insecure.
This is what you end up with when you have 24/7 cable news stations. They need 24 hours of content 365 instead of the Walter Cronkite days of 30-60 minutes. This leads to a lot pundits and contributors filling the airwaves with opinions instead of purely known facts. We need to go back to the Walter Cronkite days but it will never happen. Lots of advertising dollars when you're on the air 24/7 and that is all that any of them care about.
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I bet if they reported on the details of Hunter Biden's laptop, there would be a lot of interest in that story. There is plenty of news. Just very little of it useful the progressive agenda, which is what the media cares about most. It is so bad out there, they need Jussie Smollet to create fake news for them to gush about. Stop blaming cable. The media puts out a shit product.
Cronkite lived in a time when the networks lost money on news. They were able to do that because the networks made so much money. Its a different time. BTW, Stewart is on TV because Apple thinks he will get more subscribers for Apple TV. He needs to show he brings in viewers, i.e. he is ratings driven. Attacks on the media bring in viewers. Everything Stewart does is informed by ratings.
@@nidodson Apple TV is profit driven and Im quite sure Stewart is driven by his own ratings. He is on Apple TV because Apple thinks he will bring in subscribers. He attacks the media because that is a popular thing to do.
"The city whereyou lived your whole life is in ruins. Everything you own is gone. Everyone you know is either dead or missing...... How do you feel right now?" If that's journalism then it is something that I won't miss.
same goes for school shootings for years. I still remember this newspaper political comic shortly after the columbine shooting depicting parents sobbing next to the corpse of one of the kids killed....and a reporter standing on the corpse sticking their microphone in the parents faces...asking them "how do you feel?" This isn't new and will always continue as long as the press is subject to profit motive.
FreeDumb's just another word for "Nothing Left to Lose. Of course, "Nothing ain't worth nothing, but it is FREE." "You will own nothing, and you will be happy." Great Re-Set on 09/23/26. That's when we unveil the NEON GAUD.
I was a freelance print journalist for over 20 years and the structural professional model I think had changed to some extent across the board but it really seems to have hit the TV industry head on. I never envied the TV people at all. They had to cater to ratings. I never had to.
The point they made about news creating a narrative and driving it with speculation is even more important than they made it out to be. In my opinion, the narrative point is also at the core of the political devide of the media. People *feel* that theres a narrative, and if its a narrative they dont agree with, they turn their backs more easily and listen to a narrative they agree with more. Narratives inherently include more subjective opinion and transport bias more easily.
Have you heard of the phenomena of "manufacturing consent"? Chomsky's term & he wrote a detailed book about it. Highly recommend reading about it. Once you learn what that is, a lot of things the corporate media(as an extension of the State Dept) do make horrifying sense. It's basically what you've just described here. They manufactured consent for many wars in the past. So many people have died bc of it. For profit & American imperialism & continued global hegemony.
@@JaseekaRawr American society is an oligarchy and the American motto is show me the money. If you want to understand why things happen just understand that.
You are very correct about the narrative building contributing to the political divide we are seeing today. Building narrative is the job of a propagandist. uncovering truth and delivering important facts to inform people is the job of a journalist. Unfortunately our "news" is more propaganda than journalist.
Aren't every story is a narrative regardless of whether it's true or not. The Oxford dictionary defined it as: *"a spoken or written account of connected events; a story."* . I think what people needs to pay attention more is to learn to differentiate between *Facts* i.e. the actual reporting of what is happening (which sadly sometimes can also be manipulated nowadays) and *Opinions* which is what someone (usually the pundits' job) thinks about it. For me personally, I watch/listen to the opinions especially from the people that knows about the topic, but not to believe what they say, but to gather ideas and knowledge to form my own opinion about the topic being reported. That way I don't just blindly believe in what these people says and also not to outright dismissed their ideas cause its against my *bias* (you've got to keep em' in check if you want to be objective about it).
@@thedduck you underestimate what impact the gatekeeping of what and how much of it gets covered has on how you form your own opinions. Objectively the suffering inflicted by Saudi Arabia with US weapons and US support (or, at best, looking the other way) on the Yemenis is much worse. Yet you wouldn't know that from the volume of the reporting. Anyway, the atrocities against brown people is boring old news by now isn't it.
You do realize thousands of us have been breaking this for 5 yrs and we were told to “shut up” or were banned on all platforms. You do realize that correct? So while these clowns, jon included, were directly attacking US talking about THIS EXACT thing amoung many others…JON was all in at that time. WHY? Simply because it didn’t line up with HIS views. Now? The stance has shifted, MILLIONS now see through ALL OF THIS… But JON is “amazing”, “brave” for speaking out? Proof the message ONLY matters when it’s delivered by “certain people”. It’s the “certain people” WHO GOT US TO THIS POINT!! Jon is a play thing. And will swing wherever he has to WHEN HE IS TOLD HE CAN DO SO.
@@401RISaint You're quoting words that the OP didn't even use ... You might want to chill. People are just happy that Jon is speaking about these things because very few high profile people are. And in this land of celebrity-worship ... apparently people need to hear it from a celebrity of some sort. Sad but true. That's it. Jeez.
@@Brian-dg3kz The celebrities that endorsed Joe Biden, including this has-been, are responsible for the current situation. They've done quite enough, thanks.
@@Brian-dg3kz my statement pertains to HIM overall and his “hard pivot” once he realized how far in the back he actually was. Rats jump off a sinking ship. And that’s all jon is doing. Nothing he is saying is “new” or “ground shaking” as thousands of us have been saying this for years…and HE with others,led the charge to silence actual truth. He’s a f’ing clown. Bought and paid for. He will suffer the same fate as his cohorts in media. There will be “NO DEALS”
Totally spot on! After watching the heads on the Sunday shows hammer their guests to nail down a speculative response to a speculative infringement of a speculative "red line", as if ANYone would do such an irresponsible thing on a TV show, I had to pull back and stop watching for my own sanity. And my throat was sore from screaming at the set, too.
“The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ...We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." -Edward Bernays "Propaganda" 1928
I think on an even simpler level, with print media you have a choice over what stories to prioritize and consume. Televised news couldn't give you a choice even if they wanted to. The format combined with viewership totals being the only measure of success has made it inevitable that it would evolve in the direction it has. You could press the reset button, dissolve all the broadcasting companies, fire every producer and journalist ever involved with them, and start over with a completely clean slate, and the exact same outcome would happen again.
You, just as Stewart, forget one of the key drivers why things are the way they are: those broadcasting companies are owned by conglomerates that involve the likes of Boeing, Lockheed, Raytheon et al that have certain high ticket items to sell. Kind of like all the pandemic news "brought to you by Pfizer".
Can you do me a favor and watch television New Zealand news and then get back to me if you still feel like that? I know we have a lot of your coverage of Ukraine but still.
I feel like if Media Literacy was taught more to the public, we would start to see more genuine discourse about topics, and move away from these narratives that are manufactured from CEOS or other outside interference.
For sure. But then the problem would be that a lot of the idiots out there haven’t received any semblance of an education in the first place, and most likely that demographic would continue to not get education. You’d probably still have the same splits.
There just isn't enough news to fill a 24-hour pipe. When news was only a few hours a day, the quality was better, because they were more selective about what to report and how. The fact that they need to fill 24 hours a day every day is the root problem.
@@blackearl7891 only if you introduce some sort of schedule / programming… I.e revert to “headlines at 10pm”, local news and science news etc after that
It would be reasonable if people assumed that a 24-hour news station exists to be consumed _at any time_ within a 24-hour period, but not necessarily _all the time_ within a 24-hour period. I.e., run the same material over and over until there's new material to replace something that's due to be retired. I think the expectation of waiting until 10pm to find out what's going on with breaking news leaves a hole that can't possibly exist now. If the news isn't there, people will spread whatever information they have through social media, in a world-wide game of telephone. There needs to be a more direct line with whatever data exists from prime, confirmed sources to the consumer. BUT, building up a business model that expects that consumer to be engaged for hours at a time on any given day..? OF COURSE we're in this mess.
I also have to think; how great is it for these people in journalism to work for Jon Stewart? You can tell; this was their dream when they decided to become journalists, right? It's like being a doctor and curing people, and not having to walk around collecting bills or breezing by patients in 5 minutes and the nurse and the computer database are the main interaction. Everyone wants to be the good guy. Everyone wants to make a difference. What would it be like to have the opportunity to do that? It's a bit self-referential, but, I think it would be cool to do a show without Jon Stewart, and have everyone talk about what it's meant to have Jon Stewart create an actual news show that investigates and explains and educates rather than titillates.
@@mpjstuff This is what Jon mentioned at the beginning of the Ukraine invasion. CBS, NBC et al were built for war coverage and when there is an opportunity to do what they were built to do, they shine. It's when there is only Kardashian-like news stories to cover when true journalists get bogged down in the mundane.
@@jeanetteforister9295 We have to have more news delivered in the PBS model and not in the "for profit" ratings model. We are lucky enough to get some rich good guy like Jon Stewart doing the right thing -- but, we can't depend on that. Jon Stewart and Bernie Sanders are those anomalies that pop up DESPITE the system we have -- not because of it.
Washington Post was purchased in 2013 by the worlds richest man, Amazon founder Jeff Bezos, for $270 mio. Basically what Bezos earns in a couple of days. That's how much power money has. Are they doing honest reporting on the treatment of low-wage workers in Amazon, who have had to supply their wages with food stamps aka government subsidies? And how much is Bezos/Amazon paying in taxes? As for the past credentials of the Washington Post, they ran 27 editorials in favor of invasion of Iraq in 2003, according to Huffington Post, in the months leading up to the invasion. Now there were no WMD's in Iraq. I wonder who of the corporate interests behind WaPo could be so interested in regime change in Iraq, and why? 500.000 people died. Why exactly is "The Problem with Jon Stewart" so excited about news papers like WaPo? So much for Brinda and her insights.
Yeah, but she also knows exactly what she's talking about in regards to how mainstream media works behind the scenes AND is able to articulate it in a way that's digestible to the masses. That's invaluable in my opinion.
The Media is owned by the same Global Corporations that profit from War AND from our Division. Ewes vs Ewes -- what a laugh. Borrow + Bomb = the False Profit WE the Sheeple still follow since 2001, when that Born Again Christian President LIED us into two failed wars. "Fool ewes TWICE -- shame on Ewes."
It was sooo scary to hear them reiterating over and over again their "question" about a no fly zone while everybody who ever saw any action in the field over and over again had to remind them that this simply means WWIII
Sounds about right, but I hope and pray that you're wrong all the same. Thoughts and prayers, Ukraine! Stay strong and resilient. This too shall pass -.-
@@egm01egm No it isn't - and whatever your intention - its statements like this which are currently hightly dangerous. We need to keep our calm and strength of convictions at the same time in order to pull through this. As cynical as it might sound and as horrible as the current situation is. This isn't ww3 - not even close.
@@chriswinkler284 it's funny how many people skipped their lessons of history in school and don't remember how WWI and WWII begun, cannot see similarity
Jon hit the nail on the head here. It is kind of messed up that much of the media is so focused on an escalation of this conflict rather than on what options there are for peace.
Options for peace are squarely on Putin. Now maybe the west can incentivize the russians pull out but I doubt there are any ways? Maybe dangling the carrot of normalizing ties if there is a complete pull out; and future reparations paid to ukrain after Russia has recovered and normalized relations with the world. Pipe dream most likely.
I worked for the Washpost and I assure that it has corporate interest and biased reporting. Any media influenced by a corporate umbrella, owned by Amazon, will take a spin towards the opinion of the owner and not the reporters.
Being able to regularly listen to Jon articulating his thoughts and opinions makes my life infinitely better! I was so sad when he quit the daily show, even though I really like Trevor too.
Trevor is getting more comfortable with giving serious opinions.......I guess it is called growing up. But you are right, I had also really missed JS......there's so much comfort in his reporting/discussion..........
The Coverage from *Day-1* of the Putin-ordered "peace keeping mission" (same thing we claimed to be doing a dozen times ourselves) ...was ironically all about covering up how we got here in the first place... Putin's own State Television should be sitting there in an overly Ornamental chair giving us the "We're not so Different, you and I" speech / trope
Bloody invader here: they are absolutely doing that. There's no real emphasis on that, but it's the the thing that comes about every so often. Peace to you all.
There is a guy on the ground - a bilingual Russian-English, Donetsk-American reporter named Patrick Lancaster. He travels with separatist and Russian forces, but they do interviews with locals and assist with humanitarian aid, emergency evacuations (and medical treatment) when they can, to the extent they can. Lancaster is local to the Donetsk region. He seems to be starting to suffer from PTSD from living in that day in, day out. He's becoming visibly disturbed by the deaths. He is not okay with people dying. He is reporting to us, but you can tell it's taking a toll on him. I think the main reason he's doing that, is because Donetsk is his family's home. His people are the ones being killed. He is crowdfunded, yet not long ago, he asked that we donate instead to a family in Donetsk instead, because their house was destroyed in a fire from a shelling. Miraculously, the family survived. Lancaster may be biased in favor of the separatist / Russian forces, but he's also doing what he can to help. I believe that he would be MUCH happier if they had peace in Donetsk. At any rate, he would be able to sleep better at night. Kinda literally. As it is right now, he had to send his family away. Even when he sent them to the other side of the Sea of Azov in Russia, he says that a shell landed a couple of feet from his family. You can find his channel here on TH-cam, unless they delete it. So far, he has also been on Twitter (Patrick Lancaster YT channel, @PLnewstoday on Twitter, I think). Lancaster is on Ukraine's Myrotvorets public terrorist registry. Any journalist who reports from the Donbass tends to end up on that list. It's how Ukraine and the West control the narrative. (Check out the upper-right corner of the Myrotvorets website: myrotvorets.center/ . It is possible that someone has been subjecting his family to surveillance. Myrotvorets - translated as "Peacemakers" in English - is said to be possibly linked to the assassination of some journalists who cover "the other side".
There will be an epochal eclipse a CROSS the US on April 8th 2024, when more shall be revealed to those with "eyes and ears." Exercise faith, if you want to "SEE" anything besides an eclipse. Matthew 16: 4 Jonah 3: 4-5, 8 Great Re-Set on 09/23/26. That's when we unveil our NEON GAUD.
Media: Can you believe a country invaded another country? Me: Yes, that's shocking! Never heard of Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria , Libya, Yemen, etc...?
@@fogandmists3344 Crimea was very different. The Russians were hiding and denying their participation (little green men), the local population actually more or less welcomed them instead of resisting, and Ukraine's military was vastly inferior to what it is today in terms of experience and capabilities. So you didn't see the same kind of civilian targets then. Russia really had no sensible justification for this invasion, unlike Iraq and Afghanistan (although Iraq's justification turned out to be a big damn lie, at least we took out a dictator, albeit one we put in power in the first place).
@@LtChamberz Saddam's personal kill list : a couple thousands. USA's kill list in Iraq : 500000, with 1000000 refugees, nation treasuries - looted. Yes, CLEARLY that was to everyone's benefit !
STEWART / ROGAN 2024 PEOPLE'S PARTY This is how they approach the topics of state run media propaganda and the manufacturing of consent. How's about a Chomsky interview?
The same way the FED prints money; out of thin air. Hmm! What a coincidence as coincidence theorists say. psst Al Gore rhythm A.I. does not recognize facetiousness; so you can know if your comment is being shh add dough band by a moderator in real time; ie ... you're being watched.
@@buttafan4010 Facetious -- Not Fascist. Sociopaths, with the best intentions, plan to end global warming, and to win the Nobel Prize, by turning off a few billion useless h-eaters with the Double-Whammy Virus. AND IF the Virus Fails, Psychopaths have promised to be ready in One Minute, with Plan B: Nuclear Winter -- man-caused global cooling. Ewes (that's US) won't stop borrowing trillions for war. Baaa'd?
👏👏👏👏👏👏 How refreshing it is to get a member of “mainstream media” calling out the manipulation and propaganda that US media relies on. I can’t say I agree with you on everything, but the fact that you are willing to call out this cynicism for what it is…..love to see it!
I'm very curious as to what newspapers Jon considers as reputable sources of information. Also when it comes to television, I believe that PBS Newshour has continued to bring sensible reporting.
..for the most part they do unless it's about anything that's strawman-covering people who prioritize 1st Amendment rights over say... immigration or LGBTQplusLMNOP whatever issues. ...and by that I don't only mean Trump supporters or conservatives in general. PBS has definitely begun to hold the working class in varying degrees of "Deplorability"
Jon, the problem is a lot more fundamental: the conflict of interest between profit making and broadcasting objective news. As a for profit news agency, keeping coverage objective leads to bankruptcy. News and journalism have to be seen as necessities in a democracy, not as TV shows to be consumed.
The problem is that even "news" that is supposedly objective and supported by the government, NPR cough cough, is highly subjective and sensationalized. My a-ha moment when I started to not care about NPR was in the early 2010s when there was the Toyota Prius recall because of unintended acceleration (that was the result of user error and people not knowing how their 3000lb.+ vehicles function). NPR was going berserk about how bad Toyota was and how many vehicles were being recalled, when in reality Toyota was one of the vehicle manufacturers with the least amount of vehicle recalls that year, and the Prius in specific was one of the safest vehicles in its class. In other words, rather than providing context and objectivism, NPR was being sensationalist and ignoring facts.
@@wesleybrehm9386 It sounds like they were trying to copy the private news channels. At the end of the day there is no perfectly objective news, but there are different levels of how objective a news agency can be.
There are multiple tragic aspects to the Ukraine conflict. For one, the mayor of Mariupol did not evacuate the residents - and there are testimonies coming out, of locals who were blocked from leaving, at least sometimes by Ukrainian forces, rather than Russian. I don't know how many of you realize this, but the Ukraine conflict actually started back in 2014. There was a US-backed regime change to a pro-Western government, but it came about through the civil unrest and violence of the Maidan Uprising. So, Crimea and the Donbass (Donetsk and Lugansk - Mariupol is in Donetsk) - voted to secede from Ukraine. Crimea voted first, and voted to rejoin Russia. After Donetsk and Lugansk voted to secede, Ukraine started bombing their civilians. Now, this led to the locals forming militias, that's true; but the purpose of the militias has been to stop the Ukrainian government from killing them off. The whole thing was concealed by the West, because it would have shown that the establishment of a "Western democracy" in Ukraine had not been as effective or thorough as the US and the West had desired. So, this led to a civil war in Ukraine - the Donbass War. It is still ongoing. Russia got formally involved for a couple of reasons. For one, the majority of residents of Crimea, Donetsk and Lugansk are ethno-linguistically Russian Ukrainians. So, quite a few of them do have a connection to Russia. The Russians got tired of the Ukrainian government bombing and sniping civilians in Donetsk and Lugansk, and they tried for eight years to work things out diplomatically. The international community didn't take the situation seriously. This was probably at least partly the result of US / EU / NATO pressure. Eventually, Putin got tired of the West not taking the pre-2022 Donbass genocide seriously. From early on in the conflict, Putin laid out his terms for peace: 1) That Ukraine respect the 2014 Crimean vote to secede and rejoin Russia; 2) That Ukraine respect the Donetsk and Lugansk vote to secede from Ukraine - as in, no more bombing or sniping of civilians; and 3) That Ukraine not join NATO or form a military alliance with other nations, due to the threat to Russian national security. (They share a long border. If Ukraine were to join a military alliance with the US or the West, this would result in a military buildup along the Russia-Ukraine border, which could lead to World War III. So, in reality, what Putin is asking here, is not as unreasonable as it might seem at first.) The main issue with Mariupol is that the mayor of Mariupol, an ally of Zelensky, did not evacuate the civilian population, even though Mariupol is surrounded by the Donetsk breakaway region. So, children, mothers and the elderly have been caught in the crossfire. The Russian / separatist forces have been working on evacuating civilians. They do have to go through checkpoints and end up thoroughly checked; but that's because that a number of Ukrainian combatants have switched to civilian clothes. It's a security issue. There have also been reports of false flags. Phones need to be searched, because quite a few clips have been used in an abusive manner. While I'm sure this could be said of both sides, it's especially problematic for the Russians, because of the West's prejudice against the Russians. Think of it this way: suppose the invading forces were the US, in Iraq or Afghanistan, and they were fighting Al-Qaeda or ISIS. Most locals are going to be peaceful; but you're after the combatants. It's nothing personal. You just need to do what you can to separate out the combatants, to keep everyone safe. That's what the Russians are doing. Mariupol has for some time been home to the right-wing nationalist Azov Battalion. Some of their members are known for being unusually violent, cruel and deceitful. That's what they're checking for. The Russian Ministry of Defense has also outlined criteria for a ceasefire in Mariupol, because they received communication from the holdout Ukrainian forces in a Mariupol plant, who have claimed that there are civilians among them. They claim to have provided a means for a ceasefire, on humanitarian grounds. They have also agreed to spare the lives of the Ukrainian troops, if they will surrender. What we are being told is that Zelensky is not allowing Ukrainian troops to surrender - that they would be at risk of execution if they did. I'm sorry, but I am of the opinion that Zelensky is more interested in the territorial integrity of his country, than he is in sparing human lives. That is my opinion. While you could say the same of Putin, that doesn't change the fact that Zelensky and his predecessors - Poroshenko in particular - have bombed the civilians of Donetsk and Lugansk. I don't think the Russians have done everything right. I think that some of them have been guilty of war crimes. But I would argue that the Ukrainian forces have been guilty, too. If you pay attention to what has been going on in Donetsk and Mariupol - if you listen to the stories of a number of residents and evacuees - you would find that experiences have been mixed. Some of them have been treated reasonably well by the Russian and separatist forces, given that they're in a war zone. Here is some information on this conflict and its background. I'm sure that not all of it is accurate, yet there are testimonies and footage to consider, within these documentaries and reports. Several of my links are strongly biased in favor of the Russian perspective, I admit; but a huge reason for that is because it's difficult to be a Westerner, and find the non-Western perspective in a language we can understand. Also included in my links are documentaries by French reporter Anne-Laure Bonnel, Italian director Luca Belardi and a couple of reporters on the ground, currently around Mariupol, going around sometimes interviewing locals (with English or French subtitles). Igor Lopatonok (2016), "Ukraine on Fire": rumble.com/vwxxi8-ukraine-on-fire.html Igor Lopatonok (2019), "Revealing Ukraine": rumble.com/vwy6pm-revealing-ukraine.html Russel Brand also provided links to multiple seemingly fairly reputable articles on Western involvement in Ukraine. You can find the links via his TH-cam videos on the Ukraine conflict. Eva Bartlett (2019), "Under Fire in Ukraine and Misperceived by the West, The People of the DPR Share Their Stories": www.mintpressnews.com/under-fire-from-ukraine-everyday-life-in-the-donetsk-peoples-republic/262363/ Anne-Laure Bonnel (2016), "Donbass" (age-restricted - sign-in required): th-cam.com/video/b8j0tJsKltg/w-d-xo.html Luca Beladi and Maya Nogradi (2021), "Per i bambini del Donbass" ("For the Children of the Donbass" - English subtitles): th-cam.com/video/scfNPKcm2aE/w-d-xo.html Mark Bartalmai (2015), "Ukrainian Agony: The Concealed War" (probably also age-restricted): th-cam.com/video/2A6z1fXWh5k/w-d-xo.html RT Documentaries - "Donbass War: Airport", parts 1 & 2, and "Ukraine: Heading East" rtd.rt.com/films/donbass-war-airport-part-1/ rtd.rt.com/films/donbass-war-airport-part-2/ rtd.rt.com/films/ukraine-heading-east/ Graham Phillips (2022), "Mariupol: Why Has This Happened?": th-cam.com/video/OubfGIupgWE/w-d-xo.html Phillips has been covering the situation in Ukraine off and on for some time. Patrick Lancaster (2022): "Mariupol Residents Accuse Ukraine Of Firing On Civilians": th-cam.com/video/zlokJAUKhFE/w-d-xo.html "Refugees Expose Mariupol War Crimes Of The Russia - Ukraine War": th-cam.com/video/X1b-RKDHZOo/w-d-xo.html "Church & School Targeted By Militants in Russia - Ukraine War": th-cam.com/video/C3h9Paoy-UA/w-d-xo.html There is also a third guy, Maximilian Clarke, who also has a TH-cam channel by his name. I have not yet observed his footage to offer decent subtitles, though. Also, if you know French: Donbass Insider (2022): "Volodarskoye - Témoignages de civils ayant fui Marioupol - 23 mars 2022": th-cam.com/video/HYsx7-F4Fw8/w-d-xo.html "Marioupol - Les autorités municipales ont fui et abandonné les habitants - 28 mars 2022": th-cam.com/video/NABiJZM4NqY/w-d-xo.html The main reason that Putin has taken things as far as he has, is believed to be because of the past eight years' worth of shelling of Donbass civilians. The politics leading up to the secession vote, along with the past eight years of shelling, has often been hotly contested on both sides; but the bottom line is that the locals will tell you quite plainly that it's been the Ukrainians who have been bombing and shooting them, if you will hear them out. So, it's been a mess for Russia to try to work things out with Ukraine and her Western allies, because the Russians have to destroy the military capabilities of Ukraine, in order to get them to stop bombing civilians in Donetsk and Lugansk. They tried diplomacy. For eight years. It didn't work. If it had not been for that, I would be inclined to agree that Putin should stop; but it would seem that the West has been ignoring the backstory. I will grant you that the backstory is highly-contested. But that doesn't justify bombing civilians for eight years.
There's some good independent reporters on the ground, Patrick Lancaster has been there for the last 8 yrs, also good coverage by the Gray Zone and The Duran.
Grayzone is garbage, they basically defense Putin and Assad and are part of the idiots online who basically go “America bad, non-western dictatorships good”, with no nuance. I’ll take the Intercept which has actual journalistic integrity.
@@ricardobarahona3939 Gray Zone has not lied to me or showed themselves to be beholden to anything other than the truth. Intercept lost Glenn Greenwald because they wouldn’t print his reporting on Hunter Bidens laptop, which now, has proven Glenn right all along.
@@ferociousgustafson4040 it's funny how Stewart brought up the intercept like it's a credible source of news. Stewart really is past his prime unfortunately, lots of better comedians they do much better work out there especially jimmy dore
Maybe Police benefit from this media environment? Peace officers are a little different even though the same, but policing missions benefit from covering more conflict for more funding. Instead of investing in deescalation, we fund police for that money shot arrest, pursuit, etc. This is my favorite online think tank
Jon is completely right. I’ve been watching the press briefings, WH, Pentagon, State Department, and all the reporters want to ask is, “ where is the Red Line?” And all the spokespeople ever say is, “ I’m not going to answer that.” Over and over.
No ads on this channel, I see enough that I don't have to subscribe to AppleTV+ and the segments are hard hitting and insightful. Fucking LOVE Jon Stewart!
"What would it take to de-escalate the situation?" - thank you, Jon. Let's pray that some day very soon, we'll see journalists with the integrity & strength of character to ask such peace-oriented / solution-oriented questions.
The difficulty is that Ukraine and the West have very different criteria than the Donbass and Russia for ending this conflict. That's why it's been dragging on. Ukraine and the West want the territorial sovereignty of Ukraine honored and Russia out. The Donbass separatists want their hard-fought freedom from Ukraine. That's believed to be the main reason Russia is there, although Ukraine seeking to join NATO, too. The West siding with Ukraine, in providing weapons and training, has been a massive national security issue for Russia. Yeah, I know the concern with Russia, with regards to former Soviet countries; but ultimately, the US is a greater threat to Russia, than Russia is to them. Do we want war, or peace?
@@lyndagruen2047 The west started providing Ukraine with training and weapons after the Crimean invasion when the entire world watched in silence as Russia literally annexed part of another sovereign nation. And what “hard fought freedom”? The so called separatist are literally Russian soldiers lmao, Igor girkin, the guy responsible for “Donbas mission” literally brags about it even today. His media wing literally proudly published the shooting of the civilian aircraft in Ukraine too. Nice way to parrot Russian propaganda though, tankie
GOD DAMN it's good to have you back Jon. Thank you for calling everyone out. I'm so tired of this view that one side is the devil and the other is some kinda saint. It's fucking nonsense. One side is clearly worse than the other, but it's the lesser of two evils and people just throw that away and ignore it. It's so fucking frustrating.
WAR is NOW. Every desperate nation, tribe, and peoples for themselves . . . in the Name of GAUD -- Grand Architect of Ur Destruction. THEN, the Great Re-Set on 09/23/26. All the people will CRY OUT, "No more war. Forgive our debts. Save us from OMEGA (the killer variant). We will do Anything!" That's when we unveil the NEON GAUD. In GAUD WE TRUST. Men and women will never Lie, cheat, steal, or murder again -- so help us GAUD. Resistance is fatal. Disorder will not be tolerated. And so ends our 250-year experiment in SELF government. EPIC FAIL. THEN, 10/12/26, "You have destroyed yourselves with your endless wars of Gods. Now bow down and worship YOUR BEAST." That's what Xi says. ONE LAST CHANCE: Epochal Eclipse April 8th 2024. Don't stare at the sun. Exercise faith, if you want to "SEE" anything besides an eclipse. Matthew 16: 4 Jonah 3: 4-5, 8 Jonah 4: 11 Are Secret Societies on your radar? They are the shadow-government.
the corporate news coverage from the "beginning" has been worse than iraq. no history no context. terrible. period. 100 % propaganda. Stewart better in this show but still pulling punches
Yeh blows my mind people don't see this. Jon was way too soft on CNN in the last episode. As far as Ukraine goes, the amount of straight Western propaganda is starting to put Iraq to shame and that's because we are detached here in the states from what is going on, both from a distance and context standpoint.
they have to because they sell their show to apple tv, same with Breaking points and many other "lefty" shows, they can't afford to lose face by getting smeared as "right wing and conspiracy". Remember Trudeau and the "unacceptable views", they'll label any show Alex Jones crazy and shut it down. Isn't cancel culture and hurt feelings police great?
@@grybnyx dnc/bush admin want to kill usa/europe by migrant crisis kill iraq to syria just to help china get cheap investment there=wesley clark kill 7 countries 5 years pentagon memo, 2 terms each th-cam.com/video/_pGkFMho6Co/w-d-xo.html
@@grybnyx Sure. You are getting fed lies. For example that Ukraine is a democracy. They were not a democracy, they are authoritarian. Why is that important? Well are you going to support a authoritarian dictatorship against another authoritarian dictatorship? Probably not. The narrative you are getting fed is bad guys versus good guys when it's more like one asshole invades another asshole. Theories that paint Russia in a kinder light? Well they were not the ones antagonizing the other for years. There's like eight years of backstory at least, if you are interested check out Mearsheimer's lecture's on the topic. Russians have a ton of reasons to go into Ukraine if they are going for nato and being openly antagonistic. You would have to be stupid to not look after your own interests. Bullshit cut aside was war inevitable and the only way? I don't know. Possibly not. But that is not the subject we're talking about, you were wondering about Western propaganda which is there. If you are interested in conflict beyond what some media want you to think, you should look into the backstory.
I'm a Russian citizen on vacation in Ukraine and I genuinely had no idea this was occurring. Thankfully I drove here in a T-72 with an AK and a few extra pairs of green fatigues
Chris Hedges was formerly a war reporter, and despite me agreeing with him on politics probably no more than 50% that man is a wonderful human being and approaches being a Saint
I studied journalism while in college and the way broadcast news in particular operates often does more harm than good. They seem more interested in creating the narrative that’ll lead to the biggest reaction thus creating a news story. A newspaper provides room for context and history, TV just gives pictures with little context, but technology of media also changes how wars are fought and viewed.
Something not discussed enough is the bias that goes into apparently reporting basic facts. For example there was a plane crash in China recently and the Chinese president and several other senior officials called for a speedy and open investigation. When it was reported they said what the officials said then followed it up with 'so Chinese officials, at least publicly, are calling for a speedy and open investigation'. The insertion of 'at least publicly' is a true statement, but it also implies there may be something else going on behind closed doors, which although it is entirely possibly is the case, it a reflection of how the journalist wants to portray China generally as a secretive society with subversive motives. The same journalist would never have said the same if the plane crash was in a reputable European country for example.
It's especially egregious because there's no need to do that for countries like Russia and China - they do enough nasty shit to fill a whole week of news every day. It's like adding salt to a bucket of salt for the extra salt. Totally pointless, but listening to actual Chinese reporters in exile isn't as "sexy" as conspiracy theories. Much as listening to Swedish teenagers telling the raw truth isn't as cool as taking money from Big Oil to pretend she's just a shrill (insert whatever misogynist slur they use this week here).
I hate to be the one to say it, but the Chinese government with the Orwellian style of government and total surveillance state with a social credit score controlled by the power BEGS to be considered sneaky and as if they have something to hide. There is no reason to have that type of government if you didn't want your people to stay in line and not ask questions.
its so unseemly to be '' watching '' a war...live... and getting into speculations about punishing, doing damage, revenge, sanctions, inflicting suffering. AS IF this can never come here. its so vulgar and unwise. AND NO TALK OF ENDING WAR AND CAREING FOR ALL PEOPLE
@@zorintoto1167the US doesn't want to end it either. Look what putin is doing is wrong, there is no denying that, but do a little digging into what the US has done and is still doing. Look up the 2014 Maidan revolution and our involvement, look up the azov battalion in Ukraine, look up what Ukraine has been doing to ethnic Russian and Russian speaking citizens in Ukraine for the last 8 years,, specifically in the Donbas region. This is more complicated than Putin bad Ukraine good. And our government and media will spin the narrative until we end up in ww3. The US isn't looking for peace and is using Ukraine and its people's suffering as an excuse to ramp up a war for profiteering. Believe me mate our government doesn't give a shit about people's suffering, just look at what we did to Iraq, Afghanistan and what we are still doing in Libya. Yemen, Somalia, the list goes on. Ukraine is just another means to end, as aweful as that sounds.
The first I have seen footage on the ground, where the person with the microphone is hyping what they are looking at, YET, what we can see behind them isn't happening the way they are reporting. I've been checked out ever since.
Honestly, everyone in this clip sounds like me about a decade ago. I don't think the former CBS/ABC producer is ready for the truth yet. Yes, I'll agree that the journalism career is full of good people who want to do good and important work. But I'll also ask you to agree that these people are pissed off, disillusioned, and basically divorced from the actual news. The ones who do care about clicks and ratings are the ones who get promoted, because we all know that's what the big bosses want anyway (profit motive). It's the same in any work environment - if you're not on board with what the bosses are doing, you're not going to get promoted, you're not going to have your career advance, and you're eventually going to leave the field and then gnash your teeth about all the "good people that were left behind [in the exact same miserable situation]." Corporate media is a scourge. Hard stop. Break up the monopolies, diversify ownership of media, and start actually enforcing antitrust laws. If we can do that, the whole system might start to normalize on its own. Spoiler alert - none of those things will happen while we keep electing incumbents from both parties who sit in Congress, professionally do nothing, and make 10-100x their salary per year in stock options, kickbacks, and lobbying fees. In any case, given that this feels like me a decade ago (2012/2013) -- I give it about two years before Jon Stewart realizes "wait... it actually IS all fake news."
Too right mate, in australia 59% of all print media is controlled by Murdoch's Newscorp (who also owns 32% market share in the UK and 39% in the US); in addition to 3 corporations incl. Newscorp control 80% of TV revenue + 90% share of the national radio airwaves.. so media bias here is pretty much at 'propaganda apparatus' status at this point unfortunately 🤦♂
A friend said to me today, “I don't think it's right for country to invade another country.” I said, “It's not that simple, it is very complex involving NATO's push to the East, ethnic minorities and,” We know that the narrative is managed and relies on omissions and distortions.. Both sides do it. My friend, like most people, wants simple and uncomplicated because it is easy and apparently conclusive... If you try to explain, their eyes glaze over or they become very angry and uncomfortable... In short there is no dialog...
Agreed, very good sources giving us an accurate and informed analysis of what's going on. Unsurprisingly they are reporting the opposite of the narrative presented to us.
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when the media runs out of content, they do what everyone else does: pad the ever-living bejesus out of everything they can. most of it is junk, but it keeps you watching to see if you can see some nuggets. more often than not, they aren't gold...
We're a drama oriented species and for some the violent drama is preferred. Horror movies had to get gruesome. Boxing went to full contact MMA. The Jackass group made millions intentionally injuring themselves. Even our housewives need to fight like alley cats. Tabloids only scratched the conspiratorial surface of what the Internet can think up and perpetuate. We eat up the misfortune or others to feel better about our own actual or perceived inadequacies. For some it the escapism of drugs and others it's information and emotional overload. So the extremes of too little or too much connection to reality. Moderation in all things? 🤔🤷♂️
@@kristopherloviska9042 on the surface it may appear that way because Americans such as myself are/were consumers but using Mexico as an example, we blame them but we also provide them with 70-80% of the weapons used in cartel wars. No one is looking to prosecute ppl who traffick weapons to Mexico nor are we trying to curb drug consumption in the states. The “easy” conversation is to just block our borders.
@@jex_one Weapons manufacturers aren't prosecuted like drug cartels because the weapons manufacturers are American companies and the drug cartels are foreign. Just like Perdue Pharmaceutical gets off scot-free for the opiate epidemic
My friends and I have talked about these critical thinking things for years. It is SO DISGUSTINGLY difficult to listen to any of the national news media on tv. The speculation and opinions from hosts and OMG their “experts” is so nauseous regardless of their views. We/I often “scream” just report what happened and shut the F up. Now, we also discussed local news and this is even worse. Can’t they simply report with a conversational voice and dump the lead ins. It may well be that the “news” is in fact, the very reason for so much divisive and division of our country. They are a form of propaganda that for many of us here find distasteful at best and “we” read and look for world news from other sources. Jon et al keep up this beautiful work! Have you thought of being our “nightly news”?
What questions of peace are there to ask of the US? Should we encourage Zelensky to "De-nazify", is that a question that should be asked? Maybe, Why don't we encourage Ukraine to stop perusing NATO membership? Is that a good question? Maybe, Why don't we stop supplying Ukraine with weapons so the war ends quicker and peace happens faster? What questions of peace would you ask, John?
Questions like: Putin is obviously in a bad spot domestically to stop the war without achieving anything. What "achievement" could he try to get to sell a "mission success" to his audience at home?
@@scarpfish Zelensky banned opposing political parties and is pushing for nationalized media. There is no good side to this war, there certainly isn't any Democracy being fought for. There is 10's of billions of dollars being pocketed by the military industrial complex though.
Putin can create any narrative he wants at home after he pulls out. He has choked off the flow of information. "All of Europe has surrendered to Russia and sends Putin flowers for saving them from invading authoritarians.". Done.
Well, zelensky is already on record saying the Ukraine won't join nato. So, at face value that question has been answered. The 'why don't we stop supplying weapons?' Question is an understandable one. That said, if we (nato/us) stop what does 'peace happening faster' look like? I'd be willing to bet it looks a lot more like Russia annexing Ukraine territory while the 'peace talks' happen. Also, genuinely curious and not trying to be a dick, but how is zelensky a nazi? Everyone and their grandmother uses that word to describe anyone for any trivial reason these days. So is there an actual reason besides 'because putin said so'?
One thing I think is worthy of emphasis is that it is not simply news coverage that is not print that makes this environment but the twenty-four hour news coverage that increases a sensational perspective to keep interest. It diminishes stories as a result
Know how I know Jon's the journalist we both deserve AND need? Dude coulda stayed retired and been fine, no lost love, legacy totally intact. But when the world went crazy and no one knew who to trust any more, he saddled back up just because we needed him to.
"If you wanna make money dont do journalism..." That pretty much sums up the core issue with this and many other noble professions...they are treated as businesses and not social institutions.
She believes journalists don't get involved for clicks and ratings. Right after she said this she went on to say success was defined by ratings. So is she going to claim journalists don't want to be successful? If success is determined by ratings and/or clicks and being successful determines pay rate well.......do i really need to state the obvious?
I always remember when Jon back in his MTV show made a dog choose between barney vs Beavis and butthead. The dog chewed on Barney lol. Wut a great show
“Not enough questions about peace”, that should send shivers down everyone’s spine. We’re so focussed on more conflict rather than a strategy to bring it to an end.
Wall Street's think tank & policy creator is the Council on Foreign Relations - Blinken and many of his family are members. The State Dept and the big Donors are the ones pushing this war to the max, for max profit & control - the Pentagon & even Biden are more realistic - so far.
The Grayzone - an interview with top pentagon adviser Doug Macgregor.
Don't miss it - for a more realistic view and some real issues of concern.
Imperialism in a nutshell, smh 😟
Because most journalists are genuinely rotten human beings and utterly corrupt just like the politicians
Cuz they've spent american lives, years, and billions/trillions of dollars creating these situations.
reporters would not let even ppl to surrender.
let it be their choice will they save ppl and historic place and fight another day and surrender. be under seized and get bombed rejecting the surrender offer. they are not in caves bulidings may collapse. who knows let them decide. the reporters want blood more blood.
I remember when Jon had a recurring segment about Yemen on the Daily Show. Since then US media dropped to a complete radio silence about that conflict, which by the way, is still raging.
It almost boils down to Shiites and Sunnis hate each other and it's going to continue wither without anyone's involvement. And Saudi Arabia is determined to have a say in whatever government comes out of the Civil War.
For real. Ukraine is terrible, but Yemen is in absolute hell.
@@serronserron1320 It's almost as if it was a genocide in which Saudi Arabia is massacring children in hospitals and schools with bombs given by the US.
The difference is Yemen was a shithole before the war, unlike a modern country like Ukraine.
And jon was a part of that. Thats when i stopped watching tv altogether and never went back.
"They're trapped in a business model that creates news as narratives. It's one thing to tell stories, it's another thing to direct them and start to try to shape them". Perfectly said.
100% agree
This is how they approach the topics of state run media propaganda and the manufacturing of consent. How's about a Chomsky interview?
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Why can I picture Roger Ailes saying the exact same thing but with glee and to Rupert Murdoch
its because of so much corruption that i stopped watching news. Everything journalists say has lost value and any sort of interest in my eyes.
I worked for a local newspaper when the London Underground bombing happened, and I have never seen a room of people respond to tragedy with such *glee* before. It put an end to my aspirations to make a career out of journalism.
We think we're civilized because we drive cars and have these incredible devices called smart phones but nothing could be further from the truth. Being civilized is a behavior pattern born of learned empathy. It's heartbreaking to see that total lack of empathy and it robs your soul. Sorry you had to experience that.
So sad that humanity sinks to that level.
Recently I saw a man in a suit, allegedly a journalist, ranting about how great it would be to get out there and kill Russians.
I was covering the Peace Talks in Colombia back in 2016. A bunch of reporters from everywhere in Cartagena. One day, there was this huge demonstration, thousands of people chanting for peace and so on. And then one reporter says 'it would be rad if police charges now. A bit of running, a bit of blood and this would be fantastic'. That's the moral standards in the job...
How sad! Detached from human suffering all for a buck
I absolutely love how much follow up there is to this show's features. It offers a lot of nuance and demonstrates how much Jon cares to understand the subjects he's bringing up.
He is full of crap. He knows that attacking the media is good for ratings. That is all he cares about. Its disgusting because this is exactly what he attacks the media for.
@@peterstafford4426 Can you explain how you know that attacking the media for ratings is all he cares about? And what would you do?
Doesn’t it tho 👏🏻
@@peterstafford4426 Bot’s don’t understand that acting like bots makes us aware they’re bots. 🤡🇷🇺
@@peterstafford4426 You're full of it. Jon fought tooth and nail for first responders. You're just spiteful.
Correction: They are not journalists, they are news entertainment hosts.
I think we've strayed too far as Jackals from Seth Meyers' corrections!
the moment the reporting adds anything commentary, it's not news. why can't america just stick to being news? there's many other countries with things happening all over the world worth reporting.
Thank you Nick, yes, the emperor has no clothes said the little kid, while the foolish adults gasped in horror! The CIA claims openly that they own the media and the reporters, what does tell you.
@@acasccseea4434 There's a balance. People want and need 'accurate' commentary from people who have nuanced takes on the matter. Nobody watched or liked Kronkite because of his ability to blindly read the news letter for letter as dry as the sahara. We humans are a species who likes connecting to other humans.
The American model. That's it. Nothing to do with logic or facts. Pure entertainment. What shallow people.
Worked for an NBC affiliate and I can confirm everything Henrik said as fact. I experienced the same thing while working in the late 90's early 2000s and at that time it was becoming even more of an issue as news was transitioning alongside the rise of the internet to become more sensationalized than it was in previous years. In the late 90s it hadnt become quite the ad driven monster it is today but you could see how it was changing due to a shift toward newsertainment or infotainment and that was spurred by the changing landscape of information in general.
That's the strange catch as well. Old enough to see the change occur but mention that change to the world today and get called an old republican conspiracy theorists.
I don't think Warhawk propaganda has become any more extreme that it has in the distant past. I was reading some of the old newspapers that justified the Civil War and the Spanish-American War in the conquest for the Philippines. The media has always been Sensational and in my opinion it's not as extreme now, and that's the scary part.
It had nothing to do with the internet.
@@serronserron1320 I very much agree. I've been saying "people are people and always have been" for a few years. I'm only in my 30s so I don't have decades of experience but I've been in many different aspects of life. Only technology is new, not a single thing else about life is new. Same stuff different day.
Is there a story, or set of stories, that sticks out as a turning point to you?
such a great discussion. For me, the moment the I noticed this trend was the Virginia Tech shooting. First is was raw coverage, true news gathering. By 5 PM it was being called "the Virginia Tech Massacre" and by 9 PM it was nothing but roundtables and expert guest speculating. I was stunned by how quickly the event went from news coverage to new entertainment. Ever since that day I've noticed the same approach to any newsworthy story...only it's gotten much worse. I don't want to make this a free speech argument, but the media does have laws and regulations it must follow. The adage that you can't yell fire in a crowded theatre should apply, in it's own way, to news. News gathering vs new entertainment/opinions. there has to be a better way.
I noticed this when watching the 9/11 coverage unfold. They brought Tom Clancy on for comment. At that point I left to do other things and figured I come back in a day to find out more.
Happy to hear the topic being talked about,
I often wonder if media literacy should be taught in school, to every kid.
Only political science majors take those classes. Along with understanding misinformation these classes should be required.
As a Syrian, watching the Ukrainians suffering I can only feel dead towards the response I know it all too well. Condemnation, and fake care from leaders and just prolong the conflict for whatever gains I honestly can't see.
They want to tire Russia with our blood. That's it.
@@mishynaofficial I get that but they seem to be satisfied with this policy which seems very open ended and unpredictable.
Yes, let's gang up on Russia. Let's end this stupid war in Ukraine by starting another war with Russia and kill way way way more people in the process, right?? Let's start World War 3, people, c'mon!! Nice idea OP, you're a fckin genius. 👍🙃
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PS. Incase you didn't get it, I was being sarcastic with my comment there. Ok bye.
It's multilateral. US Isolating Russia politically and tiring them out with war and sanctions, making Ukraine a new Afghanistan. Severing EU ties and energy dependency with Russia, thus revitalizing NATO while also hurting EU economically, making them contribute militarily more to NATO while being more dependent on US. Generally rallying NATO countries around US for the upcoming global struggle against China-Russia. And of course the propaganda US=democracy=good, Russia=China=the devil himself
As a Syrian you will remeber how inaccurate john was on the story, accepting the narrative that everything was bashers fault when it was the salafi rebels, we now have proof that the chemical weapons where used only by the rebels and the western news hid the story as opposed to appologising.
I started using the term "Speculation Journalism" back in the early 2000's. I remember right before we went into Iraq, I was watching CNN, and they actually had military consultants on talking about "What Saddam Hussein is thinking about what the U.S. could be thinking about doing next."
I remember yelling "Are you f***ing kidding me?!" The next hour was nothing but pure speculation from not only the show's anchors, but also the panel of "experts."
Jon's description of "mission creep" is spot on.
@A_Sitting_Duck 😂😂😂😂
@@matthewsocal2540 wow, a lot of assumptions there. For the record, I didn't sit through the whole hour. I changed to something else, and every time I flipped back, they were still speculating away, so I eventually gave it up.
I still check out cable news from time to time, but not much during the evening, when it is mostly opinion. I stick to local newscasts and the local paper online for a lot of my news. If there are major events, the nightly national news is pretty short and sweet without an overwhelming amount of huff and puff. Sensationalism is par for the course, but I prefer the highpoints and straight reporting over the "what are they thinking" nonsense.
@A_Sitting_Duck sounds about right....LOL
Now, speculate about why John Kerry (Skull and Bones and Sec of State) and Kirill, the Patriarch of the Russian Orthodox Church, both visited Antarctica between Trump's November 2016 victory and his inauguration in 2017.
I'll start: The Archangel Base reported by Adm. Byrd, is real.
"Speculation news" -- that hits a sore spot. Watching that 15 minutes of data stretched out on CNN for a 24 hour news cycle as they interview the neighbors hair stylist for how they think Norman Swartzkopff's crew cut would affect a bombing campaign.
The deeper story was that both Iraq wars were some machinations by the Bush cabal, but, they can get a lot more hours of viewers rambling on breathlessly about speculation based on what the state department says about Saddam Hussein -- without actually investigating the real Saddam Hussein. Who might not have been a great guy, but on balance, not a worse monster than when we supported him and he didn't kick out the oil companies.
There was PLENTY of story to actually cover, but I think, everyone gets the unwritten message of where it's safe to tread, and nobody gets fired for reporting what the Pentagon says.
If it's Madonna, they can investigate to titillate. If it's war, there's plenty of explosions to point the camera at while they ramble on about sorties and smart bombs. Three stories a day to sort the B-Roll into, ignore the rest.
‘20 yrs’ - 😳 Brinda looks like she’s only in her 20’s 👏🏻
Um.. how old are you?
@@firstlast8190 5 you?
She either has long telomeres or she was able to get a hold of some telomerase.
@@buttafan4010 ALT-711 more likely.
Right that really surprised me
This is truly excellent conversation. This issue has plagued me for decades as a visual journalist since I started working in the newspaper biz. Im so glad it is being properly discussed.
This must've been happening for a long time but the first time I noticed it was when CNN covered the Malaysian plane disappearance for like two straight months in 2014. Really opened my eyes when I saw their ratings were through the roof, that's why they were making a conscious choice to cover (and speculate on) it so much.
A lot of what is being discussed here reminds me of my early career. I entered the teaching field with some of the same young person idealism. I wanted to make a difference in the lives of my students. I ended up leaving the profession because that idealism was extinguished by the reality of every day roadblocks. I so much wanted to provide real world experiences and my proposals were constantly shot down by the powers of administration and rules that governed the profession.
This would be a perfect correlation to western journalism if what you were teaching was creationism. The big problem with journalism is not stories getting pulled or hushed, it is that the profession is populated by people who peddle nonsense because they believe it to be true.
My fiancé felt the same way and had to pivot to the other major of his double major. He expected it to be bad, but it was so much worse than he thought. It’s not just the reading level, but they basically had the minds of kids two or three years younger in terms of reasoning and ability to focus.
Then the administration cooking the books to not get funding cut, reclassifying students. It was absolutely unbelievable.
I've worked In life skills classes many years. I wouldn't go back into the field. Not because of politics, but because of my first and only "active shooter drill". I'd never felt so insecure.
This is what you end up with when you have 24/7 cable news stations. They need 24 hours of content 365 instead of the Walter Cronkite days of 30-60 minutes. This leads to a lot pundits and contributors filling the airwaves with opinions instead of purely known facts. We need to go back to the Walter Cronkite days but it will never happen. Lots of advertising dollars when you're on the air 24/7 and that is all that any of them care about.
It's what you get when you have profit driven news stations.*
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Corporate media have lied to you for your entire life, including Walter Cronkite, Barbara Walters and Connie Chung.
Watch the 1942 USDA video, *Hemp For Victory.* See for yourself why no one in America has ever told you about it before.
Your government has been waging war against the American people over the same thing that enabled the Greatest Generation to stop the Holocaust.
I bet if they reported on the details of Hunter Biden's laptop, there would be a lot of interest in that story. There is plenty of news. Just very little of it useful the progressive agenda, which is what the media cares about most. It is so bad out there, they need Jussie Smollet to create fake news for them to gush about. Stop blaming cable. The media puts out a shit product.
Cronkite lived in a time when the networks lost money on news. They were able to do that because the networks made so much money. Its a different time. BTW, Stewart is on TV because Apple thinks he will get more subscribers for Apple TV. He needs to show he brings in viewers, i.e. he is ratings driven. Attacks on the media bring in viewers. Everything Stewart does is informed by ratings.
@@nidodson Apple TV is profit driven and Im quite sure Stewart is driven by his own ratings. He is on Apple TV because Apple thinks he will bring in subscribers. He attacks the media because that is a popular thing to do.
"The city whereyou lived your whole life is in ruins. Everything you own is gone. Everyone you know is either dead or missing......
How do you feel right now?"
If that's journalism then it is something that I won't miss.
I'm pretty sure that sort of reporting is what inspired The Onion's autistic reporter character.
same goes for school shootings for years. I still remember this newspaper political comic shortly after the columbine shooting depicting parents sobbing next to the corpse of one of the kids killed....and a reporter standing on the corpse sticking their microphone in the parents faces...asking them "how do you feel?" This isn't new and will always continue as long as the press is subject to profit motive.
Getting people who are suffering to shed tears on camera is a staple of the "news" world.
FreeDumb's just another word for "Nothing Left to Lose. Of course, "Nothing ain't worth nothing, but it is FREE."
"You will own nothing, and you will be happy."
Great Re-Set on 09/23/26. That's when we unveil the NEON GAUD.
Excellent convo!
I was a freelance print journalist for over 20 years and the structural professional model I think had changed to some extent across the board but it really seems to have hit the TV industry head on.
I never envied the TV people at all. They had to cater to ratings.
I never had to.
The point they made about news creating a narrative and driving it with speculation is even more important than they made it out to be.
In my opinion, the narrative point is also at the core of the political devide of the media. People *feel* that theres a narrative, and if its a narrative they dont agree with, they turn their backs more easily and listen to a narrative they agree with more. Narratives inherently include more subjective opinion and transport bias more easily.
Have you heard of the phenomena of "manufacturing consent"? Chomsky's term & he wrote a detailed book about it. Highly recommend reading about it. Once you learn what that is, a lot of things the corporate media(as an extension of the State Dept) do make horrifying sense. It's basically what you've just described here. They manufactured consent for many wars in the past. So many people have died bc of it. For profit & American imperialism & continued global hegemony.
@@JaseekaRawr American society is an oligarchy and the American motto is show me the money. If you want to understand why things happen just understand that.
You are very correct about the narrative building contributing to the political divide we are seeing today.
Building narrative is the job of a propagandist. uncovering truth and delivering important facts to inform people is the job of a journalist. Unfortunately our "news" is more propaganda than journalist.
Aren't every story is a narrative regardless of whether it's true or not. The Oxford dictionary defined it as: *"a spoken or written account of connected events; a story."*
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I think what people needs to pay attention more is to learn to differentiate between *Facts* i.e. the actual reporting of what is happening (which sadly sometimes can also be manipulated nowadays) and *Opinions* which is what someone (usually the pundits' job) thinks about it. For me personally, I watch/listen to the opinions especially from the people that knows about the topic, but not to believe what they say, but to gather ideas and knowledge to form my own opinion about the topic being reported. That way I don't just blindly believe in what these people says and also not to outright dismissed their ideas cause its against my *bias* (you've got to keep em' in check if you want to be objective about it).
@@thedduck you underestimate what impact the gatekeeping of what and how much of it gets covered has on how you form your own opinions. Objectively the suffering inflicted by Saudi Arabia with US weapons and US support (or, at best, looking the other way) on the Yemenis is much worse. Yet you wouldn't know that from the volume of the reporting. Anyway, the atrocities against brown people is boring old news by now isn't it.
So glad you’re back, Jon! The world needs you.
You do realize thousands of us have been breaking this for 5 yrs and we were told to “shut up” or were banned on all platforms. You do realize that correct? So while these clowns, jon included, were directly attacking US talking about THIS EXACT thing amoung many others…JON was all in at that time. WHY? Simply because it didn’t line up with HIS views.
Now? The stance has shifted, MILLIONS now see through ALL OF THIS…
But JON is “amazing”, “brave” for speaking out?
Proof the message ONLY matters when it’s delivered by “certain people”.
It’s the “certain people” WHO GOT US TO THIS POINT!!
Jon is a play thing. And will swing wherever he has to WHEN HE IS TOLD HE CAN DO SO.
@@401RISaint You're quoting words that the OP didn't even use ... You might want to chill. People are just happy that Jon is speaking about these things because very few high profile people are. And in this land of celebrity-worship ... apparently people need to hear it from a celebrity of some sort. Sad but true. That's it. Jeez.
@@Brian-dg3kz The celebrities that endorsed Joe Biden, including this has-been, are responsible for the current situation. They've done quite enough, thanks.
@@Brian-dg3kz my statement pertains to HIM overall and his “hard pivot” once he realized how far in the back he actually was.
Rats jump off a sinking ship. And that’s all jon is doing.
Nothing he is saying is “new” or “ground shaking” as thousands of us have been saying this for years…and HE with others,led the charge to silence actual truth.
He’s a f’ing clown. Bought and paid for. He will suffer the same fate as his cohorts in media.
There will be “NO DEALS”
Indeed, the world does need Jon Stewart.
Totally spot on! After watching the heads on the Sunday shows hammer their guests to nail down a speculative response to a speculative infringement of a speculative "red line", as if ANYone would do such an irresponsible thing on a TV show, I had to pull back and stop watching for my own sanity. And my throat was sore from screaming at the set, too.
That was a great conversation and this is exactly the reason why the legacy and MSM are failing.
its good to have you back
“The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ...We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." -Edward Bernays "Propaganda" 1928
I think on an even simpler level, with print media you have a choice over what stories to prioritize and consume. Televised news couldn't give you a choice even if they wanted to. The format combined with viewership totals being the only measure of success has made it inevitable that it would evolve in the direction it has. You could press the reset button, dissolve all the broadcasting companies, fire every producer and journalist ever involved with them, and start over with a completely clean slate, and the exact same outcome would happen again.
You, just as Stewart, forget one of the key drivers why things are the way they are: those broadcasting companies are owned by conglomerates that involve the likes of Boeing, Lockheed, Raytheon et al that have certain high ticket items to sell. Kind of like all the pandemic news "brought to you by Pfizer".
Can you do me a favor and watch television New Zealand news and then get back to me if you still feel like that?
I know we have a lot of your coverage of Ukraine but still.
@@twntwrs truth
I feel like if Media Literacy was taught more to the public, we would start to see more genuine discourse about topics, and move away from these narratives that are manufactured from CEOS or other outside interference.
For sure. But then the problem would be that a lot of the idiots out there haven’t received any semblance of an education in the first place, and most likely that demographic would continue to not get education. You’d probably still have the same splits.
Couldn´t have expected anything else but this from Mr . Stewart .
Wow Jon’s been to Mesa before. We would love to have you
Back!
There just isn't enough news to fill a 24-hour pipe. When news was only a few hours a day, the quality was better, because they were more selective about what to report and how. The fact that they need to fill 24 hours a day every day is the root problem.
Also that occurred before only six companies monopolized news outlets
There is quite a lot of news to cover 24/7. It's just that it doesn't fuel the masses or gains enough viewership to continuously generate revenue.
@@blackearl7891 only if you introduce some sort of schedule / programming… I.e revert to “headlines at 10pm”, local news and science news etc after that
@@blackearl7891 If that were true they wouldn't be filling much of that time with opinion and other filler.
It would be reasonable if people assumed that a 24-hour news station exists to be consumed _at any time_ within a 24-hour period, but not necessarily _all the time_ within a 24-hour period. I.e., run the same material over and over until there's new material to replace something that's due to be retired.
I think the expectation of waiting until 10pm to find out what's going on with breaking news leaves a hole that can't possibly exist now. If the news isn't there, people will spread whatever information they have through social media, in a world-wide game of telephone. There needs to be a more direct line with whatever data exists from prime, confirmed sources to the consumer.
BUT, building up a business model that expects that consumer to be engaged for hours at a time on any given day..? OF COURSE we're in this mess.
Jon you are the perfect mix of intelligence, humor, and humanity. It's great what you are doing with this podcast. Keep up the good work!!
I also have to think; how great is it for these people in journalism to work for Jon Stewart? You can tell; this was their dream when they decided to become journalists, right?
It's like being a doctor and curing people, and not having to walk around collecting bills or breezing by patients in 5 minutes and the nurse and the computer database are the main interaction.
Everyone wants to be the good guy. Everyone wants to make a difference. What would it be like to have the opportunity to do that?
It's a bit self-referential, but, I think it would be cool to do a show without Jon Stewart, and have everyone talk about what it's meant to have Jon Stewart create an actual news show that investigates and explains and educates rather than titillates.
@@mpjstuff This is what Jon mentioned at the beginning of the Ukraine invasion. CBS, NBC et al were built for war coverage and when there is an opportunity to do what they were built to do, they shine. It's when there is only Kardashian-like news stories to cover when true journalists get bogged down in the mundane.
@@jeanetteforister9295 We have to have more news delivered in the PBS model and not in the "for profit" ratings model. We are lucky enough to get some rich good guy like Jon Stewart doing the right thing -- but, we can't depend on that. Jon Stewart and Bernie Sanders are those anomalies that pop up DESPITE the system we have -- not because of it.
More episodes with Brinda and her insights, please.
Washington Post was purchased in 2013 by the worlds richest man, Amazon founder Jeff Bezos, for $270 mio. Basically what Bezos earns in a couple of days. That's how much power money has. Are they doing honest reporting on the treatment of low-wage workers in Amazon, who have had to supply their wages with food stamps aka government subsidies? And how much is Bezos/Amazon paying in taxes? As for the past credentials of the Washington Post, they ran 27 editorials in favor of invasion of Iraq in 2003, according to Huffington Post, in the months leading up to the invasion. Now there were no WMD's in Iraq. I wonder who of the corporate interests behind WaPo could be so interested in regime change in Iraq, and why? 500.000 people died. Why exactly is "The Problem with Jon Stewart" so excited about news papers like WaPo? So much for Brinda and her insights.
And she is pretty
@@Psicokass She's Hot AF.
@@Psicokass Exactly my point.
Yeah, but she also knows exactly what she's talking about in regards to how mainstream media works behind the scenes AND is able to articulate it in a way that's digestible to the masses. That's invaluable in my opinion.
This is why I love Jon’s input ever since the Daily Show. The American media loves sufferings porn and sensationalism.
The Media is owned by the same Global Corporations that profit from War AND from our Division. Ewes vs Ewes -- what a laugh. Borrow + Bomb = the False Profit WE the Sheeple still follow since 2001, when that Born Again Christian President LIED us into two failed wars. "Fool ewes TWICE -- shame on Ewes."
It was sooo scary to hear them reiterating over and over again their "question" about a no fly zone while everybody who ever saw any action in the field over and over again had to remind them that this simply means WWIII
Sounds about right, but I hope and pray that you're wrong all the same. Thoughts and prayers, Ukraine! Stay strong and resilient. This too shall pass -.-
Wake up, ww3 is already here
@@egm01egm No it isn't - and whatever your intention - its statements like this which are currently hightly dangerous. We need to keep our calm and strength of convictions at the same time in order to pull through this.
As cynical as it might sound and as horrible as the current situation is.
This isn't ww3 - not even close.
@@egm01egm You say that like it's a good thing :P
@@chriswinkler284 it's funny how many people skipped their lessons of history in school and don't remember how WWI and WWII begun, cannot see similarity
if by shifting to speculation mode, you mean standard operating procedure that is always occurring then ok.
Jon’s concern about Shawn and Camila’s breakup was so close to my own I can’t stop laughing
She looks like she's 20 and about to start her 20 year career
Jon hit the nail on the head here. It is kind of messed up that much of the media is so focused on an escalation of this conflict rather than on what options there are for peace.
Options for peace are squarely on Putin. Now maybe the west can incentivize the russians pull out but I doubt there are any ways? Maybe dangling the carrot of normalizing ties if there is a complete pull out; and future reparations paid to ukrain after Russia has recovered and normalized relations with the world. Pipe dream most likely.
I worked for the Washpost and I assure that it has corporate interest and biased reporting. Any media influenced by a corporate umbrella, owned by Amazon, will take a spin towards the opinion of the owner and not the reporters.
Being able to regularly listen to Jon articulating his thoughts and opinions makes my life infinitely better! I was so sad when he quit the daily show, even though I really like Trevor too.
Trevor is getting more comfortable with giving serious opinions.......I guess it is called growing up. But you are right, I had also really missed JS......there's so much comfort in his reporting/discussion..........
Trevor Noah is an unfunny joke.
Why? Do you lack the ability to form your own opinions?
Trevor is a sellout, signaling to the far left. That guy is the reason y I stopped watching the daily show.
@@RavenBorn93 He's not alone...
The Coverage from *Day-1* of the Putin-ordered "peace keeping mission" (same thing we claimed to be doing a dozen times ourselves) ...was ironically all about covering up how we got here in the first place... Putin's own State Television should be sitting there in an overly Ornamental chair giving us the "We're not so Different, you and I" speech / trope
Yep 8 year civil war with ethnic cleansing doesnt matter when " worse than hitler" is the narrative.
@@thorinbane absolutely and you will never hear about it in the mainstream media.
Bloody invader here: they are absolutely doing that. There's no real emphasis on that, but it's the the thing that comes about every so often.
Peace to you all.
@@thorinbane gobbling up that propaganda
Theres quite a difference.
"Knocking on doors of people whose kids got murdered" for publicity sounds inhumane. *I thought the anchor in Die Hard was sh**#t** !*
hollywood.... all the same thing
There is a guy on the ground - a bilingual Russian-English, Donetsk-American reporter named Patrick Lancaster. He travels with separatist and Russian forces, but they do interviews with locals and assist with humanitarian aid, emergency evacuations (and medical treatment) when they can, to the extent they can. Lancaster is local to the Donetsk region. He seems to be starting to suffer from PTSD from living in that day in, day out. He's becoming visibly disturbed by the deaths. He is not okay with people dying. He is reporting to us, but you can tell it's taking a toll on him. I think the main reason he's doing that, is because Donetsk is his family's home. His people are the ones being killed.
He is crowdfunded, yet not long ago, he asked that we donate instead to a family in Donetsk instead, because their house was destroyed in a fire from a shelling. Miraculously, the family survived. Lancaster may be biased in favor of the separatist / Russian forces, but he's also doing what he can to help. I believe that he would be MUCH happier if they had peace in Donetsk. At any rate, he would be able to sleep better at night. Kinda literally. As it is right now, he had to send his family away. Even when he sent them to the other side of the Sea of Azov in Russia, he says that a shell landed a couple of feet from his family. You can find his channel here on TH-cam, unless they delete it. So far, he has also been on Twitter (Patrick Lancaster YT channel, @PLnewstoday on Twitter, I think).
Lancaster is on Ukraine's Myrotvorets public terrorist registry. Any journalist who reports from the Donbass tends to end up on that list. It's how Ukraine and the West control the narrative. (Check out the upper-right corner of the Myrotvorets website: myrotvorets.center/ . It is possible that someone has been subjecting his family to surveillance. Myrotvorets - translated as "Peacemakers" in English - is said to be possibly linked to the assassination of some journalists who cover "the other side".
I also have a media degree and by the time I graduated in the 90's, I lost all faith in news organizations and how they control thought.
There will be an epochal eclipse a CROSS the US on April 8th 2024, when more shall be revealed to those with "eyes and ears." Exercise faith, if you want to "SEE" anything besides an eclipse. Matthew 16: 4 Jonah 3: 4-5, 8
Great Re-Set on 09/23/26. That's when we unveil our NEON GAUD.
Right on! Nobody talks about peace and the bloated military budget.
Media: Can you believe a country invaded another country?
Me: Yes, that's shocking! Never heard of Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria , Libya, Yemen, etc...?
@@fogandmists3344 Crimea was very different. The Russians were hiding and denying their participation (little green men), the local population actually more or less welcomed them instead of resisting, and Ukraine's military was vastly inferior to what it is today in terms of experience and capabilities. So you didn't see the same kind of civilian targets then. Russia really had no sensible justification for this invasion, unlike Iraq and Afghanistan (although Iraq's justification turned out to be a big damn lie, at least we took out a dictator, albeit one we put in power in the first place).
@@LtChamberz Saddam's personal kill list : a couple thousands. USA's kill list in Iraq : 500000, with 1000000 refugees, nation treasuries - looted. Yes, CLEARLY that was to everyone's benefit !
6:15 it is not " a narrative", it is PROPAGANDA.
It has been that way for quite sometime.
The documentary manufacturing consent aged so well
STEWART / ROGAN 2024 PEOPLE'S PARTY
This is how they approach the topics of state run media propaganda and the manufacturing of consent. How's about a Chomsky interview?
"They're trapped in a business model that creates news as narratives". Damn, Jon. That's a brilliant line.
The same way the FED prints money; out of thin air. Hmm! What a coincidence as coincidence theorists say.
psst
Al Gore rhythm A.I. does not recognize facetiousness; so you can know if your comment is being shh add dough band by a moderator in real time;
ie ... you're being watched.
@@buttafan4010 Facetious -- Not Fascist. Sociopaths, with the best intentions, plan to end global warming, and to win the Nobel Prize, by turning off a few billion useless h-eaters with the Double-Whammy Virus. AND IF the Virus Fails, Psychopaths have promised to be ready in One Minute, with Plan B: Nuclear Winter -- man-caused global cooling. Ewes (that's US) won't stop borrowing trillions for war. Baaa'd?
and contrary to that the trolls claim, Jon is referring to all media networks across the spectrum: Fox, CNN, ABC, MSNBC, EVERYONE!
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How refreshing it is to get a member of “mainstream media” calling out the manipulation and propaganda that US media relies on. I can’t say I agree with you on everything, but the fact that you are willing to call out this cynicism for what it is…..love to see it!
I'm very curious as to what newspapers Jon considers as reputable sources of information.
Also when it comes to television, I believe that PBS Newshour has continued to bring sensible reporting.
I’m glad he doesn’t do that though, would be ammunition for the unscrupulous.
@@slartibartfast7921 Could you elaborate?
They've lied about Russiagate and Hunter's laptop. Not to mention fail to mention candidates like Bernie, Yang and Tulsi.
..for the most part they do unless it's about anything that's strawman-covering people who prioritize 1st Amendment rights over say... immigration or LGBTQplusLMNOP whatever issues. ...and by that I don't only mean Trump supporters or conservatives in general. PBS has definitely begun to hold the working class in varying degrees of "Deplorability"
...come to think of it, it's probably somethign more to do with just how many ultra-wealthy corporate "underwriters" they have now
The media is beginning to talk about the "what if". The whole episode was about, what if this happens. 🤔
Jon, the problem is a lot more fundamental: the conflict of interest between profit making and broadcasting objective news. As a for profit news agency, keeping coverage objective leads to bankruptcy. News and journalism have to be seen as necessities in a democracy, not as TV shows to be consumed.
The problem is that even "news" that is supposedly objective and supported by the government, NPR cough cough, is highly subjective and sensationalized. My a-ha moment when I started to not care about NPR was in the early 2010s when there was the Toyota Prius recall because of unintended acceleration (that was the result of user error and people not knowing how their 3000lb.+ vehicles function). NPR was going berserk about how bad Toyota was and how many vehicles were being recalled, when in reality Toyota was one of the vehicle manufacturers with the least amount of vehicle recalls that year, and the Prius in specific was one of the safest vehicles in its class. In other words, rather than providing context and objectivism, NPR was being sensationalist and ignoring facts.
@@wesleybrehm9386 It sounds like they were trying to copy the private news channels. At the end of the day there is no perfectly objective news, but there are different levels of how objective a news agency can be.
There are multiple tragic aspects to the Ukraine conflict. For one, the mayor of Mariupol did not evacuate the residents - and there are testimonies coming out, of locals who were blocked from leaving, at least sometimes by Ukrainian forces, rather than Russian. I don't know how many of you realize this, but the Ukraine conflict actually started back in 2014. There was a US-backed regime change to a pro-Western government, but it came about through the civil unrest and violence of the Maidan Uprising. So, Crimea and the Donbass (Donetsk and Lugansk - Mariupol is in Donetsk) - voted to secede from Ukraine. Crimea voted first, and voted to rejoin Russia. After Donetsk and Lugansk voted to secede, Ukraine started bombing their civilians.
Now, this led to the locals forming militias, that's true; but the purpose of the militias has been to stop the Ukrainian government from killing them off. The whole thing was concealed by the West, because it would have shown that the establishment of a "Western democracy" in Ukraine had not been as effective or thorough as the US and the West had desired.
So, this led to a civil war in Ukraine - the Donbass War. It is still ongoing. Russia got formally involved for a couple of reasons. For one, the majority of residents of Crimea, Donetsk and Lugansk are ethno-linguistically Russian Ukrainians. So, quite a few of them do have a connection to Russia. The Russians got tired of the Ukrainian government bombing and sniping civilians in Donetsk and Lugansk, and they tried for eight years to work things out diplomatically. The international community didn't take the situation seriously. This was probably at least partly the result of US / EU / NATO pressure. Eventually, Putin got tired of the West not taking the pre-2022 Donbass genocide seriously.
From early on in the conflict, Putin laid out his terms for peace:
1) That Ukraine respect the 2014 Crimean vote to secede and rejoin Russia;
2) That Ukraine respect the Donetsk and Lugansk vote to secede from Ukraine - as in, no more bombing or sniping of civilians; and
3) That Ukraine not join NATO or form a military alliance with other nations, due to the threat to Russian national security. (They share a long border. If Ukraine were to join a military alliance with the US or the West, this would result in a military buildup along the Russia-Ukraine border, which could lead to World War III. So, in reality, what Putin is asking here, is not as unreasonable as it might seem at first.)
The main issue with Mariupol is that the mayor of Mariupol, an ally of Zelensky, did not evacuate the civilian population, even though Mariupol is surrounded by the Donetsk breakaway region. So, children, mothers and the elderly have been caught in the crossfire.
The Russian / separatist forces have been working on evacuating civilians. They do have to go through checkpoints and end up thoroughly checked; but that's because that a number of Ukrainian combatants have switched to civilian clothes. It's a security issue. There have also been reports of false flags.
Phones need to be searched, because quite a few clips have been used in an abusive manner. While I'm sure this could be said of both sides, it's especially problematic for the Russians, because of the West's prejudice against the Russians.
Think of it this way: suppose the invading forces were the US, in Iraq or Afghanistan, and they were fighting Al-Qaeda or ISIS. Most locals are going to be peaceful; but you're after the combatants. It's nothing personal. You just need to do what you can to separate out the combatants, to keep everyone safe. That's what the Russians are doing. Mariupol has for some time been home to the right-wing nationalist Azov Battalion. Some of their members are known for being unusually violent, cruel and deceitful. That's what they're checking for.
The Russian Ministry of Defense has also outlined criteria for a ceasefire in Mariupol, because they received communication from the holdout Ukrainian forces in a Mariupol plant, who have claimed that there are civilians among them. They claim to have provided a means for a ceasefire, on humanitarian grounds. They have also agreed to spare the lives of the Ukrainian troops, if they will surrender. What we are being told is that Zelensky is not allowing Ukrainian troops to surrender - that they would be at risk of execution if they did.
I'm sorry, but I am of the opinion that Zelensky is more interested in the territorial integrity of his country, than he is in sparing human lives. That is my opinion. While you could say the same of Putin, that doesn't change the fact that Zelensky and his predecessors - Poroshenko in particular - have bombed the civilians of Donetsk and Lugansk.
I don't think the Russians have done everything right. I think that some of them have been guilty of war crimes. But I would argue that the Ukrainian forces have been guilty, too. If you pay attention to what has been going on in Donetsk and Mariupol - if you listen to the stories of a number of residents and evacuees - you would find that experiences have been mixed. Some of them have been treated reasonably well by the Russian and separatist forces, given that they're in a war zone.
Here is some information on this conflict and its background. I'm sure that not all of it is accurate, yet there are testimonies and footage to consider, within these documentaries and reports. Several of my links are strongly biased in favor of the Russian perspective, I admit; but a huge reason for that is because it's difficult to be a Westerner, and find the non-Western perspective in a language we can understand. Also included in my links are documentaries by French reporter Anne-Laure Bonnel, Italian director Luca Belardi and a couple of reporters on the ground, currently around Mariupol, going around sometimes interviewing locals (with English or French subtitles).
Igor Lopatonok (2016), "Ukraine on Fire": rumble.com/vwxxi8-ukraine-on-fire.html
Igor Lopatonok (2019), "Revealing Ukraine": rumble.com/vwy6pm-revealing-ukraine.html
Russel Brand also provided links to multiple seemingly fairly reputable articles on Western involvement in Ukraine. You can find the links via his TH-cam videos on the Ukraine conflict.
Eva Bartlett (2019), "Under Fire in Ukraine and Misperceived by the West, The People of the DPR Share Their Stories": www.mintpressnews.com/under-fire-from-ukraine-everyday-life-in-the-donetsk-peoples-republic/262363/
Anne-Laure Bonnel (2016), "Donbass" (age-restricted - sign-in required): th-cam.com/video/b8j0tJsKltg/w-d-xo.html
Luca Beladi and Maya Nogradi (2021), "Per i bambini del Donbass" ("For the Children of the Donbass" - English subtitles): th-cam.com/video/scfNPKcm2aE/w-d-xo.html
Mark Bartalmai (2015), "Ukrainian Agony: The Concealed War" (probably also age-restricted): th-cam.com/video/2A6z1fXWh5k/w-d-xo.html
RT Documentaries - "Donbass War: Airport", parts 1 & 2, and "Ukraine: Heading East"
rtd.rt.com/films/donbass-war-airport-part-1/
rtd.rt.com/films/donbass-war-airport-part-2/
rtd.rt.com/films/ukraine-heading-east/
Graham Phillips (2022), "Mariupol: Why Has This Happened?": th-cam.com/video/OubfGIupgWE/w-d-xo.html
Phillips has been covering the situation in Ukraine off and on for some time.
Patrick Lancaster (2022):
"Mariupol Residents Accuse Ukraine Of Firing On Civilians": th-cam.com/video/zlokJAUKhFE/w-d-xo.html
"Refugees Expose Mariupol War Crimes Of The Russia - Ukraine War": th-cam.com/video/X1b-RKDHZOo/w-d-xo.html
"Church & School Targeted By Militants in Russia - Ukraine War": th-cam.com/video/C3h9Paoy-UA/w-d-xo.html
There is also a third guy, Maximilian Clarke, who also has a TH-cam channel by his name. I have not yet observed his footage to offer decent subtitles, though.
Also, if you know French:
Donbass Insider (2022):
"Volodarskoye - Témoignages de civils ayant fui Marioupol - 23 mars 2022": th-cam.com/video/HYsx7-F4Fw8/w-d-xo.html
"Marioupol - Les autorités municipales ont fui et abandonné les habitants - 28 mars 2022": th-cam.com/video/NABiJZM4NqY/w-d-xo.html
The main reason that Putin has taken things as far as he has, is believed to be because of the past eight years' worth of shelling of Donbass civilians. The politics leading up to the secession vote, along with the past eight years of shelling, has often been hotly contested on both sides; but the bottom line is that the locals will tell you quite plainly that it's been the Ukrainians who have been bombing and shooting them, if you will hear them out.
So, it's been a mess for Russia to try to work things out with Ukraine and her Western allies, because the Russians have to destroy the military capabilities of Ukraine, in order to get them to stop bombing civilians in Donetsk and Lugansk. They tried diplomacy. For eight years. It didn't work. If it had not been for that, I would be inclined to agree that Putin should stop; but it would seem that the West has been ignoring the backstory.
I will grant you that the backstory is highly-contested. But that doesn't justify bombing civilians for eight years.
You got a point John, News you get from the mainstream media is different from the kind you get from newspapers.
The propaganda machine is in full swing and the lies are insane and this is lame.
There's some good independent reporters on the ground, Patrick Lancaster has been there for the last 8 yrs, also good coverage by the Gray Zone and The Duran.
The Duran is a channel of two Greek gentlemen with international diplomatic and academic background, it's a very balanced and informative channel.
Grayzone is garbage, they basically defense Putin and Assad and are part of the idiots online who basically go “America bad, non-western dictatorships good”, with no nuance. I’ll take the Intercept which has actual journalistic integrity.
@@ricardobarahona3939 only problem with your argument is the gray zone actually gets the facts right, as much as that destroys your world
@@ricardobarahona3939 Gray Zone has not lied to me or showed themselves to be beholden to anything other than the truth. Intercept lost Glenn Greenwald because they wouldn’t print his reporting on Hunter Bidens laptop, which now, has proven Glenn right all along.
@@ferociousgustafson4040 it's funny how Stewart brought up the intercept like it's a credible source of news. Stewart really is past his prime unfortunately, lots of better comedians they do much better work out there especially jimmy dore
Maybe Police benefit from this media environment?
Peace officers are a little different even though the same, but policing missions benefit from covering more conflict for more funding. Instead of investing in deescalation, we fund police for that money shot arrest, pursuit, etc.
This is my favorite online think tank
When the Police discover that heir pensions are as worthless as yours . . . they'll be rioting in the streets, too.
Jon is completely right. I’ve been watching the press briefings, WH, Pentagon, State Department, and all the reporters want to ask is, “ where is the Red Line?” And all the spokespeople ever say is, “ I’m not going to answer that.” Over and over.
No ads on this channel, I see enough that I don't have to subscribe to AppleTV+ and the segments are hard hitting and insightful. Fucking LOVE Jon Stewart!
"i would not have expected that..." what news have you been watching and clearly not paying attention to?
"What would it take to de-escalate the situation?" - thank you, Jon.
Let's pray that some day very soon, we'll see journalists with the integrity & strength of character to ask such peace-oriented / solution-oriented questions.
The difficulty is that Ukraine and the West have very different criteria than the Donbass and Russia for ending this conflict. That's why it's been dragging on. Ukraine and the West want the territorial sovereignty of Ukraine honored and Russia out. The Donbass separatists want their hard-fought freedom from Ukraine. That's believed to be the main reason Russia is there, although Ukraine seeking to join NATO, too. The West siding with Ukraine, in providing weapons and training, has been a massive national security issue for Russia. Yeah, I know the concern with Russia, with regards to former Soviet countries; but ultimately, the US is a greater threat to Russia, than Russia is to them. Do we want war, or peace?
@@lyndagruen2047 The west started providing Ukraine with training and weapons after the Crimean invasion when the entire world watched in silence as Russia literally annexed part of another sovereign nation. And what “hard fought freedom”? The so called separatist are literally Russian soldiers lmao, Igor girkin, the guy responsible for “Donbas mission” literally brags about it even today. His media wing literally proudly published the shooting of the civilian aircraft in Ukraine too.
Nice way to parrot Russian propaganda though, tankie
Thank you guys for keeping it real. Your analysis of the news media was important for me to hear.
GOD DAMN it's good to have you back Jon. Thank you for calling everyone out. I'm so tired of this view that one side is the devil and the other is some kinda saint. It's fucking nonsense. One side is clearly worse than the other, but it's the lesser of two evils and people just throw that away and ignore it. It's so fucking frustrating.
This is what I always loved about Mr Stewart. Real and honest to the bones.
You all make me hella happy. Keep it going. I can see the msm getting ready to strike back at any moment.
Can I call you Ismael?
Who is Hella?
WAR is NOW. Every desperate nation, tribe, and peoples for themselves . . . in the Name of GAUD -- Grand Architect of Ur Destruction. THEN, the Great Re-Set on 09/23/26. All the people will CRY OUT, "No more war. Forgive our debts. Save us from OMEGA (the killer variant). We will do Anything!"
That's when we unveil the NEON GAUD. In GAUD WE TRUST. Men and women will never Lie, cheat, steal, or murder again -- so help us GAUD. Resistance is fatal. Disorder will not be tolerated. And so ends our 250-year experiment in SELF government. EPIC FAIL.
THEN, 10/12/26, "You have destroyed yourselves with your endless wars of Gods. Now bow down and worship YOUR BEAST." That's what Xi says.
ONE LAST CHANCE: Epochal Eclipse April 8th 2024. Don't stare at the sun. Exercise faith, if you want to "SEE" anything besides an eclipse.
Matthew 16: 4 Jonah 3: 4-5, 8 Jonah 4: 11
Are Secret Societies on your radar? They are the shadow-government.
the corporate news coverage from the "beginning" has been worse than iraq. no history no context. terrible. period. 100 % propaganda. Stewart better in this show but still pulling punches
Yeh blows my mind people don't see this. Jon was way too soft on CNN in the last episode. As far as Ukraine goes, the amount of straight Western propaganda is starting to put Iraq to shame and that's because we are detached here in the states from what is going on, both from a distance and context standpoint.
they have to because they sell their show to apple tv, same with Breaking points and many other "lefty" shows, they can't afford to lose face by getting smeared as "right wing and conspiracy". Remember Trudeau and the "unacceptable views", they'll label any show Alex Jones crazy and shut it down.
Isn't cancel culture and hurt feelings police great?
@@davidmann2524 Western propaganda? You have a theory that paints Russia in a kinder light? Tell us what we're missing about this war, comrade.
@@grybnyx dnc/bush admin want to kill usa/europe by migrant crisis kill iraq to syria just to help china get cheap investment there=wesley clark kill 7 countries 5 years pentagon memo, 2 terms each
th-cam.com/video/_pGkFMho6Co/w-d-xo.html
@@grybnyx Sure. You are getting fed lies. For example that Ukraine is a democracy. They were not a democracy, they are authoritarian. Why is that important? Well are you going to support a authoritarian dictatorship against another authoritarian dictatorship? Probably not. The narrative you are getting fed is bad guys versus good guys when it's more like one asshole invades another asshole. Theories that paint Russia in a kinder light? Well they were not the ones antagonizing the other for years. There's like eight years of backstory at least, if you are interested check out Mearsheimer's lecture's on the topic. Russians have a ton of reasons to go into Ukraine if they are going for nato and being openly antagonistic. You would have to be stupid to not look after your own interests. Bullshit cut aside was war inevitable and the only way? I don't know. Possibly not. But that is not the subject we're talking about, you were wondering about Western propaganda which is there. If you are interested in conflict beyond what some media want you to think, you should look into the backstory.
I'm a Russian citizen on vacation in Ukraine and I genuinely had no idea this was occurring.
Thankfully I drove here in a T-72 with an AK and a few extra pairs of green fatigues
Chris Hedges was formerly a war reporter, and despite me agreeing with him on politics probably no more than 50% that man is a wonderful human being and approaches being a Saint
I studied journalism while in college and the way broadcast news in particular operates often does more harm than good.
They seem more interested in creating the narrative that’ll lead to the biggest reaction thus creating a news story.
A newspaper provides room for context and history, TV just gives pictures with little context, but technology of media also changes how wars are fought and viewed.
Something not discussed enough is the bias that goes into apparently reporting basic facts. For example there was a plane crash in China recently and the Chinese president and several other senior officials called for a speedy and open investigation. When it was reported they said what the officials said then followed it up with 'so Chinese officials, at least publicly, are calling for a speedy and open investigation'. The insertion of 'at least publicly' is a true statement, but it also implies there may be something else going on behind closed doors, which although it is entirely possibly is the case, it a reflection of how the journalist wants to portray China generally as a secretive society with subversive motives. The same journalist would never have said the same if the plane crash was in a reputable European country for example.
Yup. There is always a bias to showing someone as super shady and evil.
It's especially egregious because there's no need to do that for countries like Russia and China - they do enough nasty shit to fill a whole week of news every day. It's like adding salt to a bucket of salt for the extra salt. Totally pointless, but listening to actual Chinese reporters in exile isn't as "sexy" as conspiracy theories.
Much as listening to Swedish teenagers telling the raw truth isn't as cool as taking money from Big Oil to pretend she's just a shrill (insert whatever misogynist slur they use this week here).
@@Mgranadosv just like there's never a bias to always showing the US as super forthright and always virtuous.
Totally agree
I hate to be the one to say it, but the Chinese government with the Orwellian style of government and total surveillance state with a social credit score controlled by the power BEGS to be considered sneaky and as if they have something to hide. There is no reason to have that type of government if you didn't want your people to stay in line and not ask questions.
"If you don't read the newspaper, you're uninformed. If you do read it, you're misinformed," - Denzel Washington
And Denzel's field of expertise is how news is covered.
nothing to do with Denzel
I believe that was Mark Twain.
Mark twain
its so unseemly to be '' watching '' a war...live... and getting into speculations about punishing, doing damage, revenge, sanctions, inflicting suffering. AS IF this can never come here. its so vulgar and unwise. AND NO TALK OF ENDING WAR AND CAREING FOR ALL PEOPLE
Putin doesn't want to end it .
@@zorintoto1167the US doesn't want to end it either. Look what putin is doing is wrong, there is no denying that, but do a little digging into what the US has done and is still doing. Look up the 2014 Maidan revolution and our involvement, look up the azov battalion in Ukraine, look up what Ukraine has been doing to ethnic Russian and Russian speaking citizens in Ukraine for the last 8 years,, specifically in the Donbas region. This is more complicated than Putin bad Ukraine good. And our government and media will spin the narrative until we end up in ww3. The US isn't looking for peace and is using Ukraine and its people's suffering as an excuse to ramp up a war for profiteering. Believe me mate our government doesn't give a shit about people's suffering, just look at what we did to Iraq, Afghanistan and what we are still doing in Libya. Yemen, Somalia, the list goes on. Ukraine is just another means to end, as aweful as that sounds.
This fair and balanced and honest discussion was a breath of fresh air. Not taking sides, or pushing a narrative 👍
The first I have seen footage on the ground, where the person with the microphone is hyping what they are looking at, YET, what we can see behind them isn't happening the way they are reporting. I've been checked out ever since.
Honestly, everyone in this clip sounds like me about a decade ago. I don't think the former CBS/ABC producer is ready for the truth yet.
Yes, I'll agree that the journalism career is full of good people who want to do good and important work. But I'll also ask you to agree that these people are pissed off, disillusioned, and basically divorced from the actual news. The ones who do care about clicks and ratings are the ones who get promoted, because we all know that's what the big bosses want anyway (profit motive). It's the same in any work environment - if you're not on board with what the bosses are doing, you're not going to get promoted, you're not going to have your career advance, and you're eventually going to leave the field and then gnash your teeth about all the "good people that were left behind [in the exact same miserable situation]."
Corporate media is a scourge. Hard stop.
Break up the monopolies, diversify ownership of media, and start actually enforcing antitrust laws. If we can do that, the whole system might start to normalize on its own.
Spoiler alert - none of those things will happen while we keep electing incumbents from both parties who sit in Congress, professionally do nothing, and make 10-100x their salary per year in stock options, kickbacks, and lobbying fees.
In any case, given that this feels like me a decade ago (2012/2013) -- I give it about two years before Jon Stewart realizes "wait... it actually IS all fake news."
Too right mate, in australia 59% of all print media is controlled by Murdoch's Newscorp (who also owns 32% market share in the UK and 39% in the US); in addition to 3 corporations incl. Newscorp control 80% of TV revenue + 90% share of the national radio airwaves.. so media bias here is pretty much at 'propaganda apparatus' status at this point unfortunately 🤦♂
A friend said to me today, “I don't think it's right for country to invade another country.”
I said, “It's not that simple, it is very complex involving NATO's push to the East, ethnic minorities and,”
We know that the narrative is managed and relies on omissions and distortions.. Both sides do it. My friend, like most people, wants simple and uncomplicated because it is easy and apparently conclusive... If you try to explain, their eyes glaze over or they become very angry and uncomfortable... In short there is no dialog...
7:25 it's pretty clear that russia has no interest in peace or de-escalation.
Having good intentions is not the same thing as having integrity and the courage to live by it.
Thank god you are finally seeing this
This show is doing great work 👏🏻
To people who want to see a actual journalism through these times: the Duran and Grayzone. They're actually rational.
agreed
Agreed, very good sources giving us an accurate and informed analysis of what's going on.
Unsurprisingly they are reporting the opposite of the narrative presented to us.
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Great show! Interesting perspectives, good choice of guests. Leave it to Jon Stewart to stay relevant after all these years. Looking forward to more.
The media criticism, vision and honesty of ideas of Jon Stewart is just unparalleled.
when the media runs out of content, they do what everyone else does: pad the ever-living bejesus out of everything they can. most of it is junk, but it keeps you watching to see if you can see some nuggets. more often than not, they aren't gold...
We're a drama oriented species and for some the violent drama is preferred.
Horror movies had to get gruesome. Boxing went to full contact MMA. The Jackass group made millions intentionally injuring themselves. Even our housewives need to fight like alley cats. Tabloids only scratched the conspiratorial surface of what the Internet can think up and perpetuate.
We eat up the misfortune or others to feel better about our own actual or perceived inadequacies.
For some it the escapism of drugs and others it's information and emotional overload. So the extremes of too little or too much connection to reality.
Moderation in all things? 🤔🤷♂️
Of the two, drugs are less harmful.
@@kristopherloviska9042 I believe that first depends on whether you can afford your chosen addition.
@@kristopherloviska9042 on the surface it may appear that way because Americans such as myself are/were consumers but using Mexico as an example, we blame them but we also provide them with 70-80% of the weapons used in cartel wars. No one is looking to prosecute ppl who traffick weapons to Mexico nor are we trying to curb drug consumption in the states. The “easy” conversation is to just block our borders.
@@jex_one Weapons manufacturers aren't prosecuted like drug cartels because the weapons manufacturers are American companies and the drug cartels are foreign. Just like Perdue Pharmaceutical gets off scot-free for the opiate epidemic
Zelensky just announced a ban on media and opposition political parties. Are you gonna talk about it jon?
Source?
@@anonymous12345678935 It's literally all over the news LOL. That's like asking someone to provide sources for proof that Russia invaded Ukraine.....
My friends and I have talked about these critical thinking things for years. It is SO DISGUSTINGLY difficult to listen to any of the national news media on tv. The speculation and opinions from hosts and OMG their “experts” is so nauseous regardless of their views. We/I often “scream” just report what happened and shut the F up.
Now, we also discussed local news and this is even worse. Can’t they simply report with a conversational voice and dump the lead ins.
It may well be that the “news” is in fact, the very reason for so much divisive and division of our country. They are a form of propaganda that for many of us here find distasteful at best and “we” read and look for world news from other sources.
Jon et al keep up this beautiful work! Have you thought of being our “nightly news”?
I’m so happy John is back.
What questions of peace are there to ask of the US? Should we encourage Zelensky to "De-nazify", is that a question that should be asked?
Maybe, Why don't we encourage Ukraine to stop perusing NATO membership? Is that a good question?
Maybe, Why don't we stop supplying Ukraine with weapons so the war ends quicker and peace happens faster?
What questions of peace would you ask, John?
Questions like: Putin is obviously in a bad spot domestically to stop the war without achieving anything. What "achievement" could he try to get to sell a "mission success" to his audience at home?
Putin is working you trolls overtime isn't he?
@@scarpfish Zelensky banned opposing political parties and is pushing for nationalized media. There is no good side to this war, there certainly isn't any Democracy being fought for. There is 10's of billions of dollars being pocketed by the military industrial complex though.
Putin can create any narrative he wants at home after he pulls out. He has choked off the flow of information. "All of Europe has surrendered to Russia and sends Putin flowers for saving them from invading authoritarians.". Done.
Well, zelensky is already on record saying the Ukraine won't join nato. So, at face value that question has been answered.
The 'why don't we stop supplying weapons?' Question is an understandable one. That said, if we (nato/us) stop what does 'peace happening faster' look like? I'd be willing to bet it looks a lot more like Russia annexing Ukraine territory while the 'peace talks' happen.
Also, genuinely curious and not trying to be a dick, but how is zelensky a nazi? Everyone and their grandmother uses that word to describe anyone for any trivial reason these days. So is there an actual reason besides 'because putin said so'?
One thing I think is worthy of emphasis is that it is not simply news coverage that is not print that makes this environment but the twenty-four hour news coverage that increases a sensational perspective to keep interest. It diminishes stories as a result
So news today is narrative driven. Wow what a revelation. Welcome to the party Jon.
Know how I know Jon's the journalist we both deserve AND need? Dude coulda stayed retired and been fine, no lost love, legacy totally intact. But when the world went crazy and no one knew who to trust any more, he saddled back up just because we needed him to.
You guys have convinced me to get Apple tv PRONTO! A lot of great segments. I need the full show
plus it helps support apple's chinese suppliers
"If you wanna make money dont do journalism..." That pretty much sums up the core issue with this and many other noble professions...they are treated as businesses and not social institutions.
Never expected Jon to become this level of greatness with great metal capacity. You are the man!!
Very wise and onpoint introspection on journalism
She believes journalists don't get involved for clicks and ratings. Right after she said this she went on to say success was defined by ratings. So is she going to claim journalists don't want to be successful? If success is determined by ratings and/or clicks and being successful determines pay rate well.......do i really need to state the obvious?
I always remember when Jon back in his MTV show made a dog choose between barney vs Beavis and butthead. The dog chewed on Barney lol. Wut a great show