@rampampamrampampam a lot of people say he's dirty because he plays physical... these are the same people who complain that the modern NBA is too soft. Lol
What happened when they went head to head tonight? Bam- 18pts, 12 Rebs, 2 assists on 6-19 FGs and 1-5 from 3 Sabonis- 21 pts, 18 Rebs, 11 Assists on 7-16 FGs and 2-2 from 3 You said Sabonis doesn’t space the floor but he is shooting 43% from 3 this season and Bam is a career 24% 3 point shooter. Sabonis also had 3 blocks and 1 steal. Bam isn’t even close to being on Sabonis’ level. Sabonis-
Saying sabonis doesn’t space the floor or most his assists are dho is wild. Also saying that we know how he would do in the playoffs with a great team is also wild. Tell me you don’t want basketball without telling me you don’t want basketball
Dude has no idea what he's talking about. Sabonis led the leagues in double doubles and triple doubles last year, and Sabonis just shitted on Bam this past week. If Sabonis wasn't on the Kings and played for the Lakers, the media would drool over him.
LETS SPEAK ON IT !! The guy said Sabonis best thing is rebounds like that’s a bad thing. You mean the best rebounder in the league consecutively , and dropped a triple double on bam head. And got consecutive offensive rebounds over bam to win us this game. But rebounds don’t matter right? Mr slick back that follow the sheep
@@nineteenct if his role was to be a floor spacer then he would, that was literally his role on OKC even he was playing PF and shot the ball actually solid. The kings would like him to shoot the ball from three if he’s open and it’s within the offense, but a lot of times hes not in position to shoot the three . But when he does the % speaks for itself
It's obvious one of these guys don't pay attention at all to the kings. If you are going to debate about a team atleast know both sides. Both are incredible players but there is clearly a lack of understanding here.
@@JayC_3 heavenly yes certificated Sabonis hater. I seen you numerous times you got on Sabonis highlites and use every bs nit pick to try so hard to discredit him that is very petty and sad.
If you don't watch Kings ball, and simply look at boxscores and highlights, it's easy to say Sabonis is a poor defender. He really isn't a poor defender but he may be a poor shot-blocker due to his lack of length. If you watch Sabonis every gane, he's actually pretty damn athletic for a 6'11 dude. His BBIQ alllows him to stunt on PnR D while recovering to get bk on his man. Sabonis has an insane motor and doesn't a single play off. He's also the best rebounder in the league for the last 3 years (that's defense). Led the league in triple doubles and double doubles. He broke the NBA record in consecutive double doubles. Btw, he's shooting 43% from 3 this year on 2 attempts.
Bam is basically a question of how elite you can be as a defender that it makes up for the suspect offense. I think over the last three years Sabonis and Bam are very close because Sabonis’s ability to lift an offense despite I his defencies is incredibly impressive and valuable. Sabonis is also a much more efficient player despite also having lower overall usage than Bam. Bam definitely has an argument because his defensive versatility is unique and he’s certainly a quality playmaker but I don’t think theirs a big gap currently. I think a lot of Sabonis weaknesses would honestly be mitigated if he played with a versatile power forward who can guard wings and switch onto centers because Sabonis definitely gives effort defensively he just has physical limitations that make it difficult for him to be as impactful.
“Bam is just having a bad year” *after only having one good year in his 8 year career* 😂😂😂😂 -- While Sabonis continues to put up better numbers than his MVP candidate season last year 🤦♂️
@@AS-is4dt The fact that he placed on multiple people’s top 10 MVP ballots in back to back years quite literally means he had an MVP caliber season. Multiple people had him as high as 5th which led to him finishing 7th in 22/23. Bam has not even had an all NBA caliber season because he’s never been a top 15 player in the league before like Sabonis has.
All around ball for ball, Sabonis is the better skilled basketball player. Bam is the better defender straight up on ball, along with lobs. Sabonis better at shooting, passing, low post scoring, rebounding, IQ.
Nobody that actually watches both would pick Bam over Saboner. Sabonis is literally light Jokic with better efficiency. Just cuz he ain’t blocking shots doesn’t mean he’s not a good defender
Sabonis is better. His only limitation is short arms now that he spaces the floor. The effort is there on defense and always has been, hes just not a pure shotblocker
what are we talking about here these guys claim to know ball?? Sabonis EASILY clears bam. people wanna talk about sabonis's defense when bam couldnt hit a shot on him LMAO. Sabonis is a dawg who plays every game and impacts every single play of the game
Bam is for sure a great defender but you have to be able to do both sides of the floor effectively. Bam has had games where he doesn’t even get 10 points…..
Man i hate non kings fans talking like they know why we struggled this season fox and sabonis playing together isn't the problem SABONIS 100% OVER BAM 😂
I hate these debates as both are excellent players and are good at different things. Overall, Domas is a tier above Bam, in my opinion, but I would take Bam over KAT and every other Eastern Conference center but Embiid.
Bro can’t admit that the heat team was the better squad in those finals run Jimmy was the best post player in those seasons so wtf are yall talking about
Bam is having a down year but prime bam is better than sabonis and it’s not close. Teams are slowly figuring out that they can’t have poor defenders on the floor if you really want to win.
And obviously when you have shitty rebounder like bam you don’t win games 😂 u say it’s not even close, but has bam ever been all-nba or in the mvp race? Sabonis just dropped a triple double on a guy where his only good trait his defense 💀💀💀 Sabonis made bam look like a pup, couldn’t even get a rebound to save his life
Bam gets worse at 27 while Sabonis continues to be ALL-NBA putting up MVP numbers. But somehow it’s not close in favor of bam. It’s so easy to get a bam adebeyo , what’s the difference between him and gafford? Other than gafford can actually block shots, why is this even a convo . Sabonis shouldn’t even be compared to this bum “that’s just having an off year” not once have I heard Sabonis having an “off year”
I am a Kings fan but I'm biased. Bam is greater since he's a 2-time Finalist, and is a DPOY-level player, but I think Sabonis brings more to the table for the team with him being an efficient double-double machine. He's not lockdown, but most of the time he's a decent defender. Both are great players, and even though I love defense, I think efficient box score players in multiple categories bring more value to a team.
Sabonis was getting benched in crunch time in the playoffs because of his poor defence…. Bam could never offensively or defensively be benched. Honestly all these in season through 82 game stats don’t mean shit to me, what are you doing in the playoffs when it matters??
Sabonis gets embarrassed in the playoffs people dont even guard him unless its a layup. Rudy gobert has more playoff offensive respect from defenders than Sabonis 😂.
This is Sabonis worst defensive season in his Kings tenure. Just watch the film. Zero resistance at the rim. Awful defensive awareness. These stats are incredibly off.
Yeah you're delusional. He's definitely not that bad AT ALL. Is he a shot blocker no but he can help in space and is one of the better defenders in the low post. It's when someone comes at him full speed for a layup or dunk that he struggles cause of the mediocre wingspan. His low post defense is awesome though he's strong af and not many centers in the league can back him down or post him up. He's a brick wall in that regard. Many times results in awkward fade aways or low percentage half hook shots.
Hey CK, Hot Hand Theory podcast just put a vid out presenting a theory about why you (among many!) thought Domas is bad at defense. Not trying to hate!
How is this even a debate, Sabonis 100% better.
Its sabonis 100% no debate. I hate sabonis but he cooks everytime i watch him
why do ppl hate him??
@rampampamrampampam a lot of people say he's dirty because he plays physical... these are the same people who complain that the modern NBA is too soft. Lol
No need to hate him. He is super friendly guy.
What happened when they went head to head tonight?
Bam- 18pts, 12 Rebs, 2 assists on 6-19 FGs and 1-5 from 3
Sabonis- 21 pts, 18 Rebs, 11 Assists on 7-16 FGs and 2-2 from 3
You said Sabonis doesn’t space the floor but he is shooting 43% from 3 this season and Bam is a career 24% 3 point shooter.
Sabonis also had 3 blocks and 1 steal. Bam isn’t even close to being on Sabonis’ level.
Sabonis-
Obviously sabonis is better than bam offensively buy we can't act like he even sniffs bam defensively.
Bam is 10x the defender Sabonis is. Kings would trade saboner for bam in a heartbeat
@@saibotshawdow5090no they wouldn’t 😂
@@saibotshawdow5090 bro is lying for no reason lmaooo
@@erickmoonnight3815 if u actually believe sabonis is more valuable ur delusional
Sabonis is easy to hate, doesn't change the fact that he is 100% better than Bam. Gotta admit he is one of the best bigs
Imagine how much you have to hate someone to literally stop breathing to make your point😂
Lmao dude nearly passed out off his hatred of Sabonis
@@Leeyung2nah Sab ain’t better than Bam simple they stress bro out cause they stay lyin
@@JayC_3sabonis clears add the mayo dawg fym
Sabonis was in Top 10 in MVP voting for most of the entire season last year….never heard Bam there before
Lmao Sabonis has 23 & 27 against Boston rn
Saying sabonis doesn’t space the floor or most his assists are dho is wild. Also saying that we know how he would do in the playoffs with a great team is also wild. Tell me you don’t want basketball without telling me you don’t want basketball
Dude has no idea what he's talking about. Sabonis led the leagues in double doubles and triple doubles last year, and Sabonis just shitted on Bam this past week. If Sabonis wasn't on the Kings and played for the Lakers, the media would drool over him.
I don’t think any kings fan will rather have bam
LETS SPEAK ON IT !! The guy said Sabonis best thing is rebounds like that’s a bad thing. You mean the best rebounder in the league consecutively , and dropped a triple double on bam head. And got consecutive offensive rebounds over bam to win us this game. But rebounds don’t matter right? Mr slick back that follow the sheep
Not to mention adding another ALL STAR HALL OF FAMER to the team too. While bam gets worse when an all star leaves. How does that work
Sabonis just had a 23/28 game, is better in damn near every stat, and has beaten bam twice….. sabonis by a mile.
Watching this after Kings just beat Heat in 2OT hahah
Bam: 18-12-2 1Blk 4Stl
Domi: 21-18-11 3Blks 1Stl
Sabonis also held bam to 6-19 shooting sabonis is sneaky good on defense
Sabonis 2-2 from 3 while Bam is a 24% career 3 point shooter but he said Sabonis doesn’t stretch the floor lol
@@Flash2Cash-np7ziSabonis absolutely doesn’t stretch the floor? He’s shooting less than 3 attempts a game
@@nineteenctshooting over 40%. Lol
@@nineteenct if his role was to be a floor spacer then he would, that was literally his role on OKC even he was playing PF and shot the ball actually solid. The kings would like him to shoot the ball from three if he’s open and it’s within the offense, but a lot of times hes not in position to shoot the three . But when he does the % speaks for itself
😂 bam over Sabonis? You just lost credibility kid.
It's obvious one of these guys don't pay attention at all to the kings. If you are going to debate about a team atleast know both sides. Both are incredible players but there is clearly a lack of understanding here.
Sabonis way better
Hell no
@@JayC_3 heavenly yes certificated Sabonis hater. I seen you numerous times you got on Sabonis highlites and use every bs nit pick to try so hard to discredit him that is very petty and sad.
@irmutesedimkaite8971 nah Bam better all time
Not even close! Sabonis does literally EVERYTHING!
Sabonis > Bam EASY.
Guys ease up on this guy. Obviously he’s never seen a kings game so he’s speaking out of his 🫏
That dude on the left, must feel sick about that 2OT game 🤣and sabonis hit that game winning tip earlier in the year in miami
If you don't watch Kings ball, and simply look at boxscores and highlights, it's easy to say Sabonis is a poor defender. He really isn't a poor defender but he may be a poor shot-blocker due to his lack of length.
If you watch Sabonis every gane, he's actually pretty damn athletic for a 6'11 dude. His BBIQ alllows him to stunt on PnR D while recovering to get bk on his man. Sabonis has an insane motor and doesn't a single play off.
He's also the best rebounder in the league for the last 3 years (that's defense). Led the league in triple doubles and double doubles. He broke the NBA record in consecutive double doubles.
Btw, he's shooting 43% from 3 this year on 2 attempts.
Bam is basically a question of how elite you can be as a defender that it makes up for the suspect offense. I think over the last three years Sabonis and Bam are very close because Sabonis’s ability to lift an offense despite I his defencies is incredibly impressive and valuable. Sabonis is also a much more efficient player despite also having lower overall usage than Bam. Bam definitely has an argument because his defensive versatility is unique and he’s certainly a quality playmaker but I don’t think theirs a big gap currently. I think a lot of Sabonis weaknesses would honestly be mitigated if he played with a versatile power forward who can guard wings and switch onto centers because Sabonis definitely gives effort defensively he just has physical limitations that make it difficult for him to be as impactful.
“Bam is just having a bad year”
*after only having one good year in his 8 year career* 😂😂😂😂
--
While Sabonis continues to put up better numbers than his MVP candidate season last year 🤦♂️
“Mvp candidate season”
@@AS-is4dtRemind me the year Bam got MVP votes or even made all NBA.
@@ubereats3047 what difference would that make. Neither of them have ever put up mvp seasons
@@AS-is4dt The fact that he placed on multiple people’s top 10 MVP ballots in back to back years quite literally means he had an MVP caliber season. Multiple people had him as high as 5th which led to him finishing 7th in 22/23. Bam has not even had an all NBA caliber season because he’s never been a top 15 player in the league before like Sabonis has.
@ it concerns me you rly think this
Yall need to revisit this after tonight 2OT Game. Sabonis handled Bam
We gotta remember bam is a 6’9 center
@@Dracovibes308and Sabonis is 6’10 lmao big difference
Wow one inch taller 😂😂😂yall are dumb
Im a Kings fan... Im taking Sabonis every day of the week. Also was at the game on monday and Sabonis outplayed Bam all game.
All around ball for ball, Sabonis is the better skilled basketball player. Bam is the better defender straight up on ball, along with lobs. Sabonis better at shooting, passing, low post scoring, rebounding, IQ.
Sabonis is a better asset and it’s not even close
He hasn’t watched a Kings game in 3 years. Can’t teach ignorance.
Drew got me dead , bro said Breath
Making the other guys on the channel seem like level headed adults is rly impressive
Man said I don’t care about the vid then proceeds to talk bad about it to fit his points
Nobody that actually watches both would pick Bam over Saboner. Sabonis is literally light Jokic with better efficiency. Just cuz he ain’t blocking shots doesn’t mean he’s not a good defender
Who’s shooting better this year?? Damn sure not bam
Won w/o Fox against the Celtics
Maybe condescending Carl in the black shirt should watch Sabonis play once. His opinion might actually be valid if he watched basketball games.
John bro you’re embarrassing yourself. First that Cavs take now this 😭😭
Sabonis is way better this year. It's not a debate.
Sabonis is better. His only limitation is short arms now that he spaces the floor. The effort is there on defense and always has been, hes just not a pure shotblocker
Sabonis just put up 23 points and 28 rebounds against the defending champ Celtics
Bam literally slumping this year and the heat are upset with him lol
Bam’s problem offensively is hes always been too passive. Rarely ever see him even try to take over a game
Bam has never in his life been a top 20 player in the league
That's cap after 2020 he def was. Was elite in that playoffs outside the finals especially on D.
@@NevaCrashed-p6w😂😂 2nd bam was not a top 20 player don't be delusional
Sabonis >>>> THE OX CLEARS BAM
The ball knowledge is lacking on this show😂
Sabonis even has great passing and better rebounding why is this a debate
what are we talking about here these guys claim to know ball?? Sabonis EASILY clears bam. people wanna talk about sabonis's defense when bam couldnt hit a shot on him LMAO. Sabonis is a dawg who plays every game and impacts every single play of the game
Sabonis is better than Bam
Bam is for sure a great defender but you have to be able to do both sides of the floor effectively. Bam has had games where he doesn’t even get 10 points…..
Sabonis is a tier ahead. Bam hasn’t made the offensive jump that’s been expected for years and has become overrated.
I’m a heat fan bam is trash
Bam sucks bro.
Discussion over Sabonis owns him lmfao
Clearly Sabonis is in another tier
One is all-nba.... One is not......
Damn John looks like a grown ass man now
Man i hate non kings fans talking like they know why we struggled this season fox and sabonis playing together isn't the problem SABONIS 100% OVER BAM 😂
Swear this group never show bam love but will throw every asset of their team to get em on their team 😂
JOEL PLESE BRING MR SLICK BACK TO THE NEXT POD, SO WE CAN SPEAK ON THIS KINGS MIAMI GAME
What is the point on hating on an actually good player .
But Joel also cooked stop undervalue how much butler carries bam cause he what butler does hides how bad bam is 😂
this is what male gossip looks like
I hate these debates as both are excellent players and are good at different things. Overall, Domas is a tier above Bam, in my opinion, but I would take Bam over KAT and every other Eastern Conference center but Embiid.
Bro can’t admit that the heat team was the better squad in those finals run Jimmy was the best post player in those seasons so wtf are yall talking about
Bam is trash playmaking dropped off
THE SABONER BABY
I can’t lie I stop letting white boy cook he really don’t know wtf he talking about 😂
This guy is the cringest Bam Homer. You delusional bro stop shouting.
Sabonis all day
This is 3 older brothers bullying the younger brother 😂😂😂
Bam is having a down year but prime bam is better than sabonis and it’s not close. Teams are slowly figuring out that they can’t have poor defenders on the floor if you really want to win.
That’s not the question though
LMFAO so we're already in post prime bam
so at 27 bam is past his prime? yikes
And obviously when you have shitty rebounder like bam you don’t win games 😂 u say it’s not even close, but has bam ever been all-nba or in the mvp race? Sabonis just dropped a triple double on a guy where his only good trait his defense 💀💀💀 Sabonis made bam look like a pup, couldn’t even get a rebound to save his life
Bam gets worse at 27 while Sabonis continues to be ALL-NBA putting up MVP numbers. But somehow it’s not close in favor of bam. It’s so easy to get a bam adebeyo , what’s the difference between him and gafford? Other than gafford can actually block shots, why is this even a convo . Sabonis shouldn’t even be compared to this bum “that’s just having an off year” not once have I heard Sabonis having an “off year”
I am a Kings fan but I'm biased. Bam is greater since he's a 2-time Finalist, and is a DPOY-level player, but I think Sabonis brings more to the table for the team with him being an efficient double-double machine. He's not lockdown, but most of the time he's a decent defender.
Both are great players, and even though I love defense, I think efficient box score players in multiple categories bring more value to a team.
Stop lying u not a kings fan 😂
Come on. Bam would be a zero time finalist if Miami was on the west coast
Nahhhh John cookin LMAOOO
Only 1 out of 4 of yall give a decent opinion
Sabonis is clearly having a better season than Bam. Peak Bam is obviously better than peak Sabonis.
Idk abt obviously
Have we seen peak bam yet ?
Bam has a higher ceiling but Sabonis is more consistent
Obviously better peak is disgusting 😭
Sabonis was getting benched in crunch time in the playoffs because of his poor defence…. Bam could never offensively or defensively be benched. Honestly all these in season through 82 game stats don’t mean shit to me, what are you doing in the playoffs when it matters??
Sabonis got benched because he probably had BROKEN RIBS
Bam forgot how to play Defense this game
Zubac over bam is a crazy take
how? bam sucks
Sabonis gets embarrassed in the playoffs people dont even guard him unless its a layup. Rudy gobert has more playoff offensive respect from defenders than Sabonis 😂.
Yeah that's a clown ass take. Sabonis is light years better offensively.
Considering this year, sabonis is better. Bam has been awful this year and this is the only year bam is the worse of the 2
Imma Heat fan and not not big on ban but i see what Riv saying look at da convo gobert be in and he’s not half da player bam is offensively 😂
Bam adebayo is better than sabonis but he was never a top 20 player in the nba at best top 30
Bam an elite defender that can be the 2nd best players on a finals level team. Sabonis is the reason the kings lost to the warriors in the first round
This is Sabonis worst defensive season in his Kings tenure. Just watch the film. Zero resistance at the rim. Awful defensive awareness. These stats are incredibly off.
Are you serious? Sabonis trapping the ball handler at the ends of games helped them come from behind in 2 out of the last 5 games
Yeah you're delusional. He's definitely not that bad AT ALL. Is he a shot blocker no but he can help in space and is one of the better defenders in the low post. It's when someone comes at him full speed for a layup or dunk that he struggles cause of the mediocre wingspan. His low post defense is awesome though he's strong af and not many centers in the league can back him down or post him up. He's a brick wall in that regard. Many times results in awkward fade aways or low percentage half hook shots.
Oh was this why bam went 6-19 against him? 😂
Hey CK, Hot Hand Theory podcast just put a vid out presenting a theory about why you (among many!) thought Domas is bad at defense. Not trying to hate!
@ where is the link
I cover Sabonis in Sacramento. He holds you back in so many ways....