I was a level designer on The Force Unleashed, and while we were still in development, the early sequel plans were centered on Maris Brood. She was the only opponent Starkiller fought that escaped and was written as having a redemption angle. She was always presented as being more on the fence regarding the light and dark sides of the force, but the Lucasfilm board wanted to stay with Starkiller, much to everyone's chagrin.
Good. Stop redeeming sith. Let them stick to their guns for once. There is no balance of the force otherwise. Luke seem to figure this out late in his life.
@@k.t.1641 even a sith can learn about the balance in the force. Also redeeming a badguy is a classic trope, especially if there is a more powerful enemy around aka. Vader or the emperor.
I find it funny how Red Fly Studio’s Wii port was actually better received critically than the standard version with a 10% higher Metacritic score and even higher jump in fan score. I think Red Fly fleshed out their version a bit more, with Degobah being an actual (if still short) playable level instead of just a cutscene in the next-gen versions and the version even included a Smash Bros-esque multiplayer mode. It also felt like a much bigger progression (at least graphically) from the Wii/PS2 port of the first game.
PS2 and wii versions of the first game were ported from the PSP, which had a bunch of extra content that those versions didnt get like Order 66 mode and Force Duel. Not sure why they left those out but even without them yeah I say it just plays better .
I’m glad the Wii version of the first game is now preserved through the Switch, hopefully if it’ll sell well enough they’ll port the Wii version’s sequel as well!
I do prefer playing the Wii/PSP ports of both games than the mainline versions. They benefited from less focus on physics and graphics and more focus on gameplay and content.
I didn't like the Wii version, they cut out the whole star destroyer scene. I played both, wii version being first and I enjoyed the ps3 version a lot more. But then again I haven't played them since like when they were launched
I have the Wii version on my Wii, and...honestly compared to the first game I was rather disappointed, it was lacking so much content and stuff that the first game had. It was only like a fraction of the size. I've never played either game on any other console other than the Wii so I have no reference to compare the Wii versions to other than each other, but compared to the first game on the Wii the second one was pretty underwhelming.
@@Mandalore_ultimate barely, nobody else would reference it because it breaks any other lore you could write. nobody wants to compete with a star wars Kratos powercreep character.
God I remember playing this with my brother and we were set for playing Force Unleashed 2 all day during a snow day. It took us not even five hours to beat it and both of us were like, "That's it? We died twice, and it took us this long to beat it?" Easily one of the shortest games I have ever played.
Yeah! I bought it on launch day and said to my Wife that I was going to be playing all weekend, I started around 8pm and had finished it at 1:35PM it was unbelievably short I honestly felt ripped off because I liked the combat a lot
@@X2011racer fuck I forgot about Kane and Lynch 2!!! That is a What Happun? waiting to happen! Wasn't that the same one that threatened the reviewer for giving it like a 7?
Not that surprised you haven't tackled the Star Wars franchise, but you opened that well, now you have... At least 6 other games, that can be videos, that's not even the movies, shows, and other stuff. I love Star Wars, and even like a lot of it... But when it's negative, you instantly feel the pull to the dark side.
I stopped caring about Star Wars long before the Disney buyout because of the poisonous and often cruel prequel hate. People were raging towards 2-3 movies and the crew behind them like if those were unhinged FBI-wanted criminals or something. Other than seeing TLJ and Solo exclusively because of various family trips and my younger half-siblings (as well as actually playing my dad's Force Unleashed 1 copy for a bit), I never looked back. Haven't even seen the original trilogy in years.
@@tykamen5588 As someone who grew up with those, I agree after watching them again a year ago. At least they are cheesy enough and bring a lot of mythology and video games/series, unlike the new trilogy which brings almost nothing to the universe.
During the making of the first game they thought that giving starkiller the "Darth" title would add to the story but this was something they had to ask permission from George Lucas for. After their meeting Lucas approved and told them that the two names they could give him would be either "Darth Icki, or Darth Insanious" After the meeting the game designers decided to not use either name and if anyone ask them they would just say "we're saving that for the sequel."
I know this is just a silly post but as a dumb Star Wars nerd I think of random Darth suffixes. I always liked Darth Trayer, Darth Fector, and Darth Victus.
@@jimbob1862 like I said I get the joke, but in the realm of "well this guy created this stuff" you kinda have to shrug because he just didn't have a cool name off the top of his head and figured he'd throw out silly ones they obviously wouldn't use. Better to have nothing than be serious pushing "Ohhhh Darth Death, or Darth Haterade!" Lol.
I want to violently headdesk every time I hear some variant of the sentence, "executives wanted the game to be made as fast as possible." It's mind-boggling how frequently the people with all the power make the most basic of mistakes like this when it comes to game development.
I get the pressure to see returns sooner rather than later. But there are so many examples of rushed games being disasters or at the very least, making less money than they would have otherwise. You’d think Cyberpunk 2077 would be the high profile example that would put a stop to this nonsense but a year after that fiasco we had Sonic Colors Ultimate and GTA Definite Edition. They literally can’t even finish games that came out 10 to 15 years ago!!!
They don't see the development cycle, they just see the sales figures. They don't care what it takes to make the game, they just care about what comes after
@@tntalchemist But the bean counters should have figured out that a game released too early could seriously damage a company’s reputation and profits in the long term. CDPR will have the stink of Cyberpunk 2077 on them for years to come, it damaged their stock and there is no way it won’t impact the next game they launch. Imagine if they just said “sorry, global pandemic” and held it back until late 2021… the company would be in a better position right now.
I remember playing this game and like 4 hours in I was fighting Vader. Thought oh this is probably the first of many battles. The shock I had when the credits started rolling.
Same! I was thinking we were like 1/3rd of the way through the game fighting Vader, I was FURIOUS when the credits rolled. I bought the game used for like $20-30 and still felt ripped off 😂
TFU2 was the first time I was ever disappointed by a game. As a young 13 year old kid I didn't know what made a game good or bad, but I got this game for Christmas and I remember finishing it before dinner on Christmas day. That was the first time I ever said "that's it? What a terrible ending."
This is honestly a cruel shame. It's crazy that the game even managed to be what it was within the 9 months they were given. It's even worse knowing that the writing department had their hands tied with making bold choices or risks due to the fact that they had to keep it within Canon without contradicting lore. Which is one of the most damaging things for the creative department. However, that one review quote really made a point that this sequel was made out of obligation rather than inspiration, and that really drives home the lackluster story and the rushed development. At least the gameplay feels a bit more polished but for games like Star Wars. It's simply not enough. Here to request Wha Happun? Omen of Sorrow and Rise of Incarnates.
While those are terrible conditions to work under they did it to themselves in the end. Dipping back into Starkiller and the time period was the mistake in the first place.
It’s so strange because they reused many of the assets from the first game so all they had to do was nail the story, and to craft a well made story just requires some time. Why did the second game need to be so rushed? It’s not like it was tied to any movies or shows or anything. This could’ve been a great franchise, running concurrently alongside the movies. Some executives fucked up, and killed the golden goose before it could even lay its second egg.
Honestly, not a bad result for 9 months lol. I really liked the first one but i could not finish the second because it did felt super repetitive. That is bane of Hack/Slash or beat em up games. Repetitiveness is a killer. Sifu for example is a probably shorter than TFU2 yet because of how creative it is and how every enemy is different and the gameplay and design is fantastic its probably one of the best game of that genre ever. Then again you gotta lot to live up with a game like TFU2 so that cant be easy.
I mean I played the second game, and I was very immersed, and I did enjoy it for what it was. I have seen other games that are just down right worst. Still, I most certainly would not call it a national treasure, it’s deserving of being a 6 or 7.
I remember preordering this. Finally getting it. Buying pizza on the way home and was gonna make an evening out of it. I got home at 11am from the pick up and beat it by 6pm. I was so pissed. I returned it the next day to get 2/3 price for it. The person at game stop was like “this came out not even 24 hours ago” I said “I know… it was awful”
If there's one mechanic from TFU I want in JFO 2, it's the skin selector. Canon or not, a force sensitive Standard Issue Rebel Trooper is *Peak* extended universe.
I think the reason that won't ever exsist is actually quite simple, either Jedis found him and trained, therefore no need to be a rebel trooper, or the sith found him and killed/trained him
@@moisessoria4502 this explanation ignores the many clone, storm and rebel troopers who underwent their force sensitive expieriences mid-campaign, tho. From old Republic to post-current one, force sensitive grunts have always existed.
@@EZOnTheEyes yes I agree but 99% of them were a force sensitive grunt for a small amount of time after the empire appeared, granted before that, during the clone wars and such I can definitely see happening, but after not so much, hell during the clone wars (I doubt this is canon) but there was a whole force sensitive droid, and it's theorized that r2-d2 is force sensitive
I remember the Wii version being suprisingly cool. No one paid attention to Wii third party licensed games during that gen, for good reason, but a small handful of them turned out pretty good against all odds. Force Unleashed 2 on the Wii was much better than the HD version imo, and the Captain America movie tie-in is still one of my favorite Marvel games,.
The thing that's always boggled my mind is that the Wii version functionally has a DIFFERENT STORY thanks to the additional cutscenes and levels. I played the Wii version first, and when I played the HD version later, I was just, so confused when the really cool Dagobah level was completely axed, when the ending was completely different, when the most compelling story beats were completely skipped over... I really wish that the Wii version was mentioned somewhere in the video, because I think the discrepancy is really interesting, personally.
I remembered when I bought the 1st game on the Wii and was just amazed by it the control's made it more fun for me and yeah it had more or different stuff than the other versions I didn't understand why it was like this but yeah, the 1st game will always be in my heart for the amazing times I played it and the duel mode with my brother although I never tried the 2nd game and maybe I might but after seeing this doesn't give me regret for not trying so yeah🚀
Ghostbusters The Video Game on Wii actually modeled the characters more based on the animated series, and had more actual ghost wrangling than the HD versions. Hell, the final boss is far more enjoyable in the Wii version as well.
The wii,Ps2 and Psp was the same version... I played all versions but the Xbox and ps3... Psp was the best out of the 3 because of way more content to do after the game like historical missions,offline duels, arenas... Etc even able to play as ventress or qui gon and others in that modes... Only downside no ragdolls I'm guessing that was cut content that didn't get featured sadly on Wii or Ps2...
I remember first playing TFU2 and after the Vader fight… it just ended. I thought there was a follow up level or something because I had played through the game in a single afternoon. When I told my parents the game was over they went back to GameStop and returned it for Mass Effect 2 😬😬
I believe they were going to reveal the Starkiller in the second game wasn't really a clone. It'd be just like Lucas and the others to pull a major twist like that. The original Starkiller's body shown to us in the cutscene, a fake, and we play as the original thinking he's a clone. They should've revealed that in the third game and wrapped everything up with a nice bow.
A guilty pleasure game of mine. Probably beaten the story 20-25 times, it came out right at the perfect time. I understand the game has issues but I just can’t hate it. I have to beat both games at least once a year, now my nephew is playing the games with me, and I hope we get another game in this style at some point.
@@SystemBlocked94 I’ve played Fallen Order twice now. It’s kinda funny actually the notification for this video came up when I was collectible hunting in Fallen Order.
@@SystemBlocked94 ehhhhh, it’s alright. Fallen order just feels so scaled back and boring. Only part that made it interesting was Vader’s appearance, but I most certainly would put force unleashed to a much higher standard, for good games.
Ya I do like it, as it was actually a decent game. I have seen and played terrible games before, and this one wasn’t as bad as one would expect. However, it’s most certainly deserving of a 6 or 7
Same here! Man I loved both of the Force Unleashed games and always hoped for a 3rd. When Fallen Order came out my prayers were answered. I was just bummed that Cal wasn't that powerful OR he didn't have a red lightsaber at first
This is the one series that I would love a remake that compiles the story of the first and the second, the content from all of the different versions, well as all of the DLC, into one package.
What blows me away about this game is that, despite the insane dev time, it looks FANTASTIC. Maybe it's just me, but TFU2 holds up strangely well. Like, all the clip in this video from the actual game look nuts. Ofc pre rendered cutscenes are expected to look movie quality, but the whole game, from a distance at least, looks awesome.
While TFU II may have been rushed, the Nintendo DS version (which was a 2.5d platformer) is unironically one of my favorite games on the platform. A huge improvement on the DS version of the first game for sure lol
N-space always developed amazing ports of AAA games for NDS and PSP (same goes to Griptonite -RIP- for Marvel properties) iirc, their work on Blood Stone 007 and COD MW1 to MW3 era were amazing and the idea of a TPS and FPS on such an underpowered machine was a miracle in itself
Hey Matt, at 13:55 that's my thumbnail art. You're not the first person to cadge my art off Google image search, but you just might be the biggest! I'm glad to have collaborated on the video lol. Take it easy mate ☺️
Wha happun is easily the best series that Matt Mcmucles ever created on this channel and I also subscribe to your channel and liked many of your videos. It’s interesting to see what happened to the developer either shutdown or they still live on.
I loved both of the TFU games and always hoped for a 3rd. When Fallen Order came out I was happy as it is the spiritual successor in my opinion. I was only bummed that Cal wasn't that powerful OR he didn't have a red lightsaber at first
I remember getting this game on launch day and beating it really quick and asking myself, "why was the story so short?" So I go back to gamestop and tell my friend who worked there how I beat it really quick and was done with it and they let me return it to get my money back since it was literally within the same day. I was really disappointed with part II.
Hey just wanted to say your videos are amazing. They are incredibly well researched and entertaining and just wanted to say thanks for making such great content!
The Force Unleased 2 and Modern Warfare 3 are both games that made my child mind realize that just because the game is a sequel to an awesome one doesn't mean it's better or even on par with the previous.
MW3 ruined CoD and most shooters for me. The blatant catering to quickscopers and youtubers set forth the worst trend to ever befall fps games. It even infected battlefield. Now look at them all, some of the worst games out are CoD Vanguard and Battlefield 2042
Dark Forces 2 always has a special place in my heart. I got it cheap with the add on pack and was just blown away because of the light and dark side paths and powers, the amazing sprawling huge levels, the sound design and music and of course the live action cut scenes. Slaughtering enemies with a lightsaber and force choking them was 👌 the Dark Jedi boss battles were cool... And Kyle Katarn was a better character than Starkiller
A Star Wars "What if?" or "Legends" series would be so good. So games, tv shows, movies can push their creativity to the max and not worry about what's canon or not. As long as the quality is there not quantity. So Force Unleashed 3 would be named as "Star Wars: The Force Unleashed III" _Legends_
I think this was the first game I ever beat in one sitting. I didn't even play it for that long, the game was just that astoundingly short. Wasn't even that mad, it was still pretty fun.
@@Bingo_the_Pug because she's one of the few characters that haven't been bastardized or turned into a joke by Disney since her creator is almost always the one handling her story
God l hope Eclipse lives up to half the potential the High Republic books set up for it. It’s also worth noting that Starkiller was intended to be rebooted as an Inquisitor in Season 2 of Rebels at some point, but he was ultimately cut.
Developers: Boy, developing SW games under the pressure of Lucasarts sure was streesful. Hopefully Disney will be handling the games rights better. Disney: makes a exclusivity deal with EA. Pretty much everyone: ○_○
I played this game a few times, it's one of those games you could tell a bit got cut and honestly the difficulty was a bit too low for my tastes. Like you got a lot more powerful far too quickly compared to the original.
God i remember getting upset after i beat this game as a kid. Games that are too short are just my biggest gripe with games cause i genuinely was having fun with this game. Hacking and slashing stormtroopers in this was amazing honestly. As well as disintigrating them and the mind trick which was the best and funniest ability in the game. And then it just ends the day i started it.
I wish they explored on whether or not the Starkiller from this game is the same one from the first. It would've made a very interesting plotline. And would've answered some plot holes like, "Why is this clone the only one who didn't go crazy?" or "Why does he have flashbacks of someone else's memories?". The Sonic series did this pretty well actually, with Shadow the Hedgehog.
One of the few games I had for my Xbox as a kid. I played the shit out of it, probably beating it like 50 times cause of how short the game was. There was one thing though....one thing that BOILED MY BLOOD! Where was the second black lightsaber! I wanted to duel weild the black lightsabers so hard but I swear the second one was just straight up nowhere. Add this with the fact I was too young to know what Google is and it was a lot of checking every nook in cranny
My main memory of TFU was the opening mission on the PSP version, playing as DARTH FUCKING VADER, stomping my way through hordes of Wookies, completely obliterating everything in my path like it made of paper. To this day, I don't know how the other versions opened, and don't care. I don't think any other game has made me feel as completely godlike as that did in its opening moments.
The Force Unleashed on PS2 is one of my fondest gaming experience memories, and I genuinely enjoyed II at the time...but I was also a kid and fairly easy to impress. Still, the gameplay and story both worked really well for me as a casual Star Wars fan, and I'm really sad LucasArts fucked over a promising franchise with that insanely short dev period. Looking forward to replaying the two in proper HD later this year, thanks Matt!
I actually have an idea on how the cloning part in FU2 could have worked out: have the game set some time after Return of the Jedi. The rebels would uncover the cloning tube with Starkiller II inside, whom would immediately burst out and start attacking various enemies (regardless of allegiance), while being haunted by memories from the first game. He makes choices that can shift him between light side and dark side and he meets and fights various characters from side material. Also includes post-credits scene where he finally encounters Luke, either to fight him offscreen (dark side ending) or to shake hands with him (light side ending).
Wow who would have thought I Just finished replaying both games this past week. And man I really did love these games even if the second one was repetitive I still very much enjoyed them and love them to this day. Awesome stuff as always Matt ❤️
The thing I recall that was odd about this game's story was that the main motivation of Starkiller was that he suddenly loved the woman pilot that worked with him. But IIRC, there was basically nothing between them in the first game like that at all. So it just comes out of a absolutely nowhere in the second game.
I really enjoyed TFU2, I thought it qas more memorable than the first one. Such great spectacles. I can't remember the last time I got to ride a collapsing ship through an orbital blockade and directly into a planetside facility; can't remember the last time I grinned so much during a setpiece either. The voice work in both games was fresh and light too, I loved Witwer's conversational performances. It's a shame the series got iced. Thanks for making this.
I think The Force Unleashed 2 still is pretty good regardless of its rushed development. Grinding to get all the Kyber Crystals for different lightsaber colors was still fun as hell, and the combat didn't loose its cool factor thanks to getting two sabers this time instead of one. And also the final battle with Vader was such an epic way to end the game. Too bad the sequel never followed through.
So a common case of killing the goose that lays the golden eggs. They found themselves with a massive hit and wanted a sequel IMMEDIATELY. Makes you wonder how these executives get to those high positions when they are this inept at gauging an opportunity.
Man I remember buying this after playing the first, I was so hype and always like the premise as well as slicing body parts from Stormtroopers, sad that it was very short and disappointing.
What I remembered from some people (and this is me hearing those claims, YEARS AGO), is that the game is so short, that the demo is like playing most of the game because it's so repetitive.
I spent so much of this video trying to remember why Haden Blackman's name sounded familiar, and I finally remembered he'd written some comic books before you confirmed that's where he ended up through most of the '10s.
Hopefully some day, you'll tackle LucasArts as a whole. Their history is pretty interesting, and they have alot of original adventure games under their belt too.
They have some of the _definitive_ original adventure games under their belt. Hell, you say LucasArts to me, the first things I'm going to think of are Monkey Island and Maniac Mansion, even if they weren't quite called LucasArts yet when those first released.
@@gorimbaud I feel the same way. It sucks that LucasArts just stopped making adventure games, after 2000. I know that they don't sell as well as Star Wars but, I'd argue that some of the best LucasArts games are the ones where the devs get to experiment with their own games
@@terrorbyte5352 The 00s were also a weird time for adventure games, since they struggled a lot with the move to 3D. Though that's kind of funny for me to think about because I got into adventure games during the 00s, though mostly through older stuff or indie stuff. I was definitely more into anything 2D than 3D back then.
The story of the second game was actually really fucking interesting. A clone asking himself if it really matters if he's a clone? Maybe he is the original Starkiller? Maybe it doesn't matter at all? All in all. It had so much goddamn potential. Too bad the devs weren't given nearly enough time to finish their magnum opus. Truly heartbreaking. I would have loved to see what the finished version would have looked like
Still impressive what they did in that short time, i can only imagine what they could’ve done with 2 to 3 years especially on the narrative aspect since I thought the combat was pretty solid even tho a little stiff
Force unleashed 3 and 1313 gets canceled 10 year old me: *Aggressively punching the air* 25 year old me: *helping 10 year old me because THIS STILL SUM BS*
I still find myself kinda wondering whatever happened to SWTOR. I remember buying it and playing it and thinking it felt cool, but then one day I looked around and noticed that basically everyone in my guild had stopped playing, and at the time I assumed they had all gone off to play Mass Effect 3 and would be back once they were done there, but they never came back. The meme of "TORtanic" had taken hold but I never really knew exactly why.
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The best things Star Wars Visions did was tell stories not weighed down by the film canon. I think the franchise won't be able to move forward until they, in effect, "let the past die. Kill it if you have to."
I don't get why they just don't make Legend games and series/movies. I am sure alot of fans would Love stuff like the Thrawn trilogy on screen or another Jedi Knight game with Kyle Katarn. Just label it as Legends!
The Force Unleashed 3 being about trying to keep Vader contained, fleeing from Boba (with maybe some of his lore being shown), and then the final boss being a forced loss against Vader as you realize he's been fucking with you this whole time would have been terrifying and awesome. Shame they dropped the ball with TFU 2.
This game was a heartbreaker. They HAD an easy way to continue the story and that was continuing the dark side ending where Starkiller killed Vader and became the Emperors apprentice. TFU2 did so bad that the Endor DLC which did continue the Dark Side ending missions of TFU1 (although with other continuity errors) was forced to be sold for only for a dollar.
I think the reason they didn’t continue the dark side ending from TFU1 is because there’s a rule in LucasArts regarding multiple endings in Star Wars games: The Light Side always wins. This is why it’s canon that Galen died at the end of TFU1, and it’s also why Darth Revan is canonically stated as permanently returning to the Jedi Order.
Oh my god the Imperial Death March Leviathan Mix!!! One of the greatest tracks from the pre-youtube internet age EVER! Everyone here needs to go download that track, it's such a banger.
I was watching Always Sunny season 3, episode 3 with my sister recently, and recognised Sam Witwer as an extra with a couple of lines of dialogue. Although admittedly, I mostly recognised him from Days Gone.
I didn't even know there was a 2nd game. With that said, 9 months to make it?! That's like a turn around time for PSX games. I'm amazed they were able to pump it out and less than a month for writing. Geez. I hope chasing that money was worth it?... Oh wait they pretty much want bankrupt, but then we're saved by Disney.
I'll always remember the Force Unleashed. The game store attendant said to me, "Get this game. It's really cool you get to be Darth Vader's apprentice." I. Stood, looked him in the eye and said, "nah I'm a rebel." He looked at me like I was from Mars lol.
I was a level designer on The Force Unleashed, and while we were still in development, the early sequel plans were centered on Maris Brood. She was the only opponent Starkiller fought that escaped and was written as having a redemption angle. She was always presented as being more on the fence regarding the light and dark sides of the force, but the Lucasfilm board wanted to stay with Starkiller, much to everyone's chagrin.
Even George Lucas himself hated Starkiller
You were part of one of my favorite childhood games , 1st grade me thanks you
Good. Stop redeeming sith. Let them stick to their guns for once. There is no balance of the force otherwise. Luke seem to figure this out late in his life.
@@k.t.1641 even a sith can learn about the balance in the force. Also redeeming a badguy is a classic trope, especially if there is a more powerful enemy around aka. Vader or the emperor.
@@KaminoKatie why did he hate him?
That Homer impression was spot on! I spent a few moments thinking "wait...did that actually happen in an episode?!"
It did, they just swapped in Star Killer
@@badjokezach6359 I'm glad it was convincing, but the entire audio is re-recorded and custom, not just that word :-).
@@RedLion_52
Nah, you just have to drop your chin and your IQ and voila
I kinda just thought that was an episode where they were talking about something unrelated named star killer
@@jakebambino1390 you mean, sentence mixing?
I find it funny how Red Fly Studio’s Wii port was actually better received critically than the standard version with a 10% higher Metacritic score and even higher jump in fan score. I think Red Fly fleshed out their version a bit more, with Degobah being an actual (if still short) playable level instead of just a cutscene in the next-gen versions and the version even included a Smash Bros-esque multiplayer mode. It also felt like a much bigger progression (at least graphically) from the Wii/PS2 port of the first game.
PS2 and wii versions of the first game were ported from the PSP, which had a bunch of extra content that those versions didnt get like Order 66 mode and Force Duel. Not sure why they left those out but even without them yeah I say it just plays better .
I’m glad the Wii version of the first game is now preserved through the Switch, hopefully if it’ll sell well enough they’ll port the Wii version’s sequel as well!
I do prefer playing the Wii/PSP ports of both games than the mainline versions. They benefited from less focus on physics and graphics and more focus on gameplay and content.
I didn't like the Wii version, they cut out the whole star destroyer scene. I played both, wii version being first and I enjoyed the ps3 version a lot more. But then again I haven't played them since like when they were launched
I have the Wii version on my Wii, and...honestly compared to the first game I was rather disappointed, it was lacking so much content and stuff that the first game had. It was only like a fraction of the size. I've never played either game on any other console other than the Wii so I have no reference to compare the Wii versions to other than each other, but compared to the first game on the Wii the second one was pretty underwhelming.
This franchise may not be Canon to Disney BUT ITS REAL TO ME
ITS STILL REAL TO ME DAMNIT!
In my eyes the Disney are evil
It's not canon to begin with even before
To be fair, shows like Rebels probably rendered a lot of Force Unleashed non-canon in terms of continuity overlap
@@Mandalore_ultimate barely, nobody else would reference it because it breaks any other lore you could write. nobody wants to compete with a star wars Kratos powercreep character.
God I remember playing this with my brother and we were set for playing Force Unleashed 2 all day during a snow day. It took us not even five hours to beat it and both of us were like, "That's it? We died twice, and it took us this long to beat it?" Easily one of the shortest games I have ever played.
Angry Joe: 4 HOUUUUUUUUUURS!
Yeah! I bought it on launch day and said to my
Wife that I was going to be playing all weekend, I started around 8pm and had finished it at 1:35PM it was unbelievably short I honestly felt ripped off because I liked the combat a lot
Want something even shorter? Kane and Lynch 2. Only one level and done in 4 hours.
@@X2011racer fuck I forgot about Kane and Lynch 2!!! That is a What Happun? waiting to happen! Wasn't that the same one that threatened the reviewer for giving it like a 7?
@@X2011racer Surely MGS Ground Zeroes takes at least one cake, here?
Damn, whoever did that Homer impression was dead on
There are so many Spanish dub Homer’s and gawwwwd is that guy’s voice annoying!!🤦🏻♂️
Not that surprised you haven't tackled the Star Wars franchise, but you opened that well, now you have... At least 6 other games, that can be videos, that's not even the movies, shows, and other stuff. I love Star Wars, and even like a lot of it... But when it's negative, you instantly feel the pull to the dark side.
I stopped caring about Star Wars long before the Disney buyout because of the poisonous and often cruel prequel hate. People were raging towards 2-3 movies and the crew behind them like if those were unhinged FBI-wanted criminals or something. Other than seeing TLJ and Solo exclusively because of various family trips and my younger half-siblings (as well as actually playing my dad's Force Unleashed 1 copy for a bit), I never looked back. Haven't even seen the original trilogy in years.
There’s a lot to go over there in terms of games, EA Star Wars especially with both of their battlefronts and the cancelation of 1313.
@@KremBotop the prequels aren't terrible but they're not great movies either
@@tykamen5588 As someone who grew up with those, I agree after watching them again a year ago. At least they are cheesy enough and bring a lot of mythology and video games/series, unlike the new trilogy which brings almost nothing to the universe.
It's just the American equivalent of the Godzilla series
During the making of the first game they thought that giving starkiller the "Darth" title would add to the story but this was something they had to ask permission from George Lucas for.
After their meeting Lucas approved and told them that the two names they could give him would be either "Darth Icki, or Darth Insanious"
After the meeting the game designers decided to not use either name and if anyone ask them they would just say "we're saving that for the sequel."
I know this is just a silly post but as a dumb Star Wars nerd I think of random Darth suffixes.
I always liked Darth Trayer, Darth Fector, and Darth Victus.
@@tonyjackson4078 Darth Victus is a great name!
Sam Witwer said that George Lucas meant it to be a joke. I guess he has a deadpan sense of humor.
@@gLOLdos If you've seen his robot chicken cameo George absolutely comes off as serious when he's joking and that's the best part
@@jimbob1862 like I said I get the joke, but in the realm of "well this guy created this stuff" you kinda have to shrug because he just didn't have a cool name off the top of his head and figured he'd throw out silly ones they obviously wouldn't use. Better to have nothing than be serious pushing "Ohhhh Darth Death, or Darth Haterade!" Lol.
I want to violently headdesk every time I hear some variant of the sentence, "executives wanted the game to be made as fast as possible." It's mind-boggling how frequently the people with all the power make the most basic of mistakes like this when it comes to game development.
I get the pressure to see returns sooner rather than later. But there are so many examples of rushed games being disasters or at the very least, making less money than they would have otherwise. You’d think Cyberpunk 2077 would be the high profile example that would put a stop to this nonsense but a year after that fiasco we had Sonic Colors Ultimate and GTA Definite Edition. They literally can’t even finish games that came out 10 to 15 years ago!!!
Same with Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic 2, and that's still a much better game.
They don't see the development cycle, they just see the sales figures. They don't care what it takes to make the game, they just care about what comes after
@@tntalchemist But the bean counters should have figured out that a game released too early could seriously damage a company’s reputation and profits in the long term. CDPR will have the stink of Cyberpunk 2077 on them for years to come, it damaged their stock and there is no way it won’t impact the next game they launch. Imagine if they just said “sorry, global pandemic” and held it back until late 2021… the company would be in a better position right now.
@@TheJadedJames the executives who tell everyone below them what to do will find some way to blame some bullshit and will do it again
I remember playing this game and like 4 hours in I was fighting Vader. Thought oh this is probably the first of many battles. The shock I had when the credits started rolling.
Same! I was thinking we were like 1/3rd of the way through the game fighting Vader, I was FURIOUS when the credits rolled. I bought the game used for like $20-30 and still felt ripped off 😂
Dude the Homer voice is pitch perfect!
TFU2 was the first time I was ever disappointed by a game. As a young 13 year old kid I didn't know what made a game good or bad, but I got this game for Christmas and I remember finishing it before dinner on Christmas day. That was the first time I ever said "that's it? What a terrible ending."
Angry Joe: 4 HOUUUUUUUUUURS!
This is honestly a cruel shame. It's crazy that the game even managed to be what it was within the 9 months they were given. It's even worse knowing that the writing department had their hands tied with making bold choices or risks due to the fact that they had to keep it within Canon without contradicting lore. Which is one of the most damaging things for the creative department. However, that one review quote really made a point that this sequel was made out of obligation rather than inspiration, and that really drives home the lackluster story and the rushed development. At least the gameplay feels a bit more polished but for games like Star Wars. It's simply not enough.
Here to request Wha Happun? Omen of Sorrow and Rise of Incarnates.
Eh honestly the only thing the sequel did better was in my opinion better looking cinematic scenes. Other than that everything was hot garbage.
@@robertoneal8137 I thought the graphics were an upgrade to the first game. Especially kamino. The game was very beautiful, despite its shortcomings
While those are terrible conditions to work under they did it to themselves in the end. Dipping back into Starkiller and the time period was the mistake in the first place.
It’s so strange because they reused many of the assets from the first game so all they had to do was nail the story, and to craft a well made story just requires some time. Why did the second game need to be so rushed? It’s not like it was tied to any movies or shows or anything. This could’ve been a great franchise, running concurrently alongside the movies. Some executives fucked up, and killed the golden goose before it could even lay its second egg.
Honestly, not a bad result for 9 months lol. I really liked the first one but i could not finish the second because it did felt super repetitive. That is bane of Hack/Slash or beat em up games. Repetitiveness is a killer. Sifu for example is a probably shorter than TFU2 yet because of how creative it is and how every enemy is different and the gameplay and design is fantastic its probably one of the best game of that genre ever. Then again you gotta lot to live up with a game like TFU2 so that cant be easy.
I dunno man, a repetive game can be good if the gameplay is good to make the repetitiveness fun itself.
@@Jack_Mercer I don't understand how I managed to play so many Warriors type games...
I mean I played the second game, and I was very immersed, and I did enjoy it for what it was. I have seen other games that are just down right worst. Still, I most certainly would not call it a national treasure, it’s deserving of being a 6 or 7.
There are games shorter than TFU2?!
Couldn’t finish? The game is like 4 hours long 😂
I remember preordering this. Finally getting it. Buying pizza on the way home and was gonna make an evening out of it. I got home at 11am from the pick up and beat it by 6pm. I was so pissed. I returned it the next day to get 2/3 price for it. The person at game stop was like “this came out not even 24 hours ago” I said “I know… it was awful”
I don't get why people return things. Even if it's bad, it's nice to just have right? idk, that's just me
If there's one mechanic from TFU I want in JFO 2, it's the skin selector. Canon or not, a force sensitive Standard Issue Rebel Trooper is *Peak* extended universe.
I think the reason that won't ever exsist is actually quite simple, either Jedis found him and trained, therefore no need to be a rebel trooper, or the sith found him and killed/trained him
@@moisessoria4502 this explanation ignores the many clone, storm and rebel troopers who underwent their force sensitive expieriences mid-campaign, tho. From old Republic to post-current one, force sensitive grunts have always existed.
@@EZOnTheEyes yes I agree but 99% of them were a force sensitive grunt for a small amount of time after the empire appeared, granted before that, during the clone wars and such I can definitely see happening, but after not so much, hell during the clone wars (I doubt this is canon) but there was a whole force sensitive droid, and it's theorized that r2-d2 is force sensitive
Guybrush Threepkiller threw me off
I remember the Wii version being suprisingly cool. No one paid attention to Wii third party licensed games during that gen, for good reason, but a small handful of them turned out pretty good against all odds. Force Unleashed 2 on the Wii was much better than the HD version imo, and the Captain America movie tie-in is still one of my favorite Marvel games,.
The thing that's always boggled my mind is that the Wii version functionally has a DIFFERENT STORY thanks to the additional cutscenes and levels. I played the Wii version first, and when I played the HD version later, I was just, so confused when the really cool Dagobah level was completely axed, when the ending was completely different, when the most compelling story beats were completely skipped over... I really wish that the Wii version was mentioned somewhere in the video, because I think the discrepancy is really interesting, personally.
I remembered when I bought the 1st game on the Wii and was just amazed by it the control's made it more fun for me and yeah it had more or different stuff than the other versions I didn't understand why it was like this but yeah, the 1st game will always be in my heart for the amazing times I played it and the duel mode with my brother although I never tried the 2nd game and maybe I might but after seeing this doesn't give me regret for not trying so yeah🚀
Ghostbusters The Video Game on Wii actually modeled the characters more based on the animated series, and had more actual ghost wrangling than the HD versions. Hell, the final boss is far more enjoyable in the Wii version as well.
The wii,Ps2 and Psp was the same version... I played all versions but the Xbox and ps3... Psp was the best out of the 3 because of way more content to do after the game like historical missions,offline duels, arenas... Etc even able to play as ventress or qui gon and others in that modes... Only downside no ragdolls
I'm guessing that was cut content that didn't get featured sadly on Wii or Ps2...
I remember first playing TFU2 and after the Vader fight… it just ended. I thought there was a follow up level or something because I had played through the game in a single afternoon. When I told my parents the game was over they went back to GameStop and returned it for Mass Effect 2 😬😬
Good trade
That was definitely a good move.
Now THAT is a pro gamer move!
Damnnnnnn
Mass effect is a dead franchise lol 😂
I believe they were going to reveal the Starkiller in the second game wasn't really a clone. It'd be just like Lucas and the others to pull a major twist like that. The original Starkiller's body shown to us in the cutscene, a fake, and we play as the original thinking he's a clone. They should've revealed that in the third game and wrapped everything up with a nice bow.
I like to talk about how I get nervous around other people
The Force Unleashed 2 was the fastest I’ve ever beaten a game.
Hey Angry Joe can you tell us how long this game is again?
AJ: 4 HOUUUUUUUUURS!
at least this game franchise gave voice actor Sam Witwer the later role as the new Official voice for Darth Maul which is awesome.
A guilty pleasure game of mine. Probably beaten the story 20-25 times, it came out right at the perfect time. I understand the game has issues but I just can’t hate it. I have to beat both games at least once a year, now my nephew is playing the games with me, and I hope we get another game in this style at some point.
@@SystemBlocked94 I’ve played Fallen Order twice now. It’s kinda funny actually the notification for this video came up when I was collectible hunting in Fallen Order.
@@SystemBlocked94 ehhhhh, it’s alright. Fallen order just feels so scaled back and boring. Only part that made it interesting was Vader’s appearance, but I most certainly would put force unleashed to a much higher standard, for good games.
Ya I do like it, as it was actually a decent game. I have seen and played terrible games before, and this one wasn’t as bad as one would expect. However, it’s most certainly deserving of a 6 or 7
Same here! Man I loved both of the Force Unleashed games and always hoped for a 3rd. When Fallen Order came out my prayers were answered. I was just bummed that Cal wasn't that powerful OR he didn't have a red lightsaber at first
That game on Unleashed was no joke
This is the one series that I would love a remake that compiles the story of the first and the second, the content from all of the different versions, well as all of the DLC, into one package.
Dude you would think that they could think of that stuff since they get paid for it
What blows me away about this game is that, despite the insane dev time, it looks FANTASTIC. Maybe it's just me, but TFU2 holds up strangely well. Like, all the clip in this video from the actual game look nuts. Ofc pre rendered cutscenes are expected to look movie quality, but the whole game, from a distance at least, looks awesome.
While TFU II may have been rushed, the Nintendo DS version (which was a 2.5d platformer) is unironically one of my favorite games on the platform. A huge improvement on the DS version of the first game for sure lol
I remember playing the DS version of 1. I weirdly have really fond memories of it and I actually remember more than I remember the PS3 version
N-space always developed amazing ports of AAA games for NDS and PSP (same goes to Griptonite -RIP- for Marvel properties) iirc, their work on Blood Stone 007 and COD MW1 to MW3 era were amazing and the idea of a TPS and FPS on such an underpowered machine was a miracle in itself
Thanks!
Any time Episode 1: Podracer is mentioned even in the slightest, it brings a smile to my face
My memory of TFU 2 was getting it for Christmas, putting the game into my Xbox 360 that night, and my 360 immediately getting the red ring of death.
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Random fact: I alpha-tested The Force Unleashed Hoth DLC. :D
Never knew that TFU II was What Happun worthy. Should be a fun watch!
star wars 1313 pls
Hello Matt, could we please get a whu happen for the PSVita?
No man sky maybe a video about that game
The mid-90s Island of Dr. Moreau is a disaster in film worth dissecting for sure.
Hey Matt, at 13:55 that's my thumbnail art. You're not the first person to cadge my art off Google image search, but you just might be the biggest! I'm glad to have collaborated on the video lol. Take it easy mate ☺️
Wha happun is easily the best series that Matt Mcmucles ever created on this channel and I also subscribe to your channel and liked many of your videos. It’s interesting to see what happened to the developer either shutdown or they still live on.
Honestly, this is one of my all time favorite Star Wars games. Both versions, actually.
It's short, but it's a blast to play through.
While I don't fully agree, due to it's story and length, I do agree the gameplay is fun as f##k.
I loved both of the TFU games and always hoped for a 3rd. When Fallen Order came out I was happy as it is the spiritual successor in my opinion. I was only bummed that Cal wasn't that powerful OR he didn't have a red lightsaber at first
I remember getting this game on launch day and beating it really quick and asking myself, "why was the story so short?" So I go back to gamestop and tell my friend who worked there how I beat it really quick and was done with it and they let me return it to get my money back since it was literally within the same day. I was really disappointed with part II.
Hey just wanted to say your videos are amazing. They are incredibly well researched and entertaining and just wanted to say thanks for making such great content!
The Force Unleased 2 and Modern Warfare 3 are both games that made my child mind realize that just because the game is a sequel to an awesome one doesn't mean it's better or even on par with the previous.
the difference is tho is that MW3 is a solid conclusion to a trilogy unlike TFU2 which just didn't make any sense.
MW3 was hardd idk what u on there
MW3 ruined CoD and most shooters for me. The blatant catering to quickscopers and youtubers set forth the worst trend to ever befall fps games. It even infected battlefield. Now look at them all, some of the worst games out are CoD Vanguard and Battlefield 2042
MW3 was just better MW2.
The music is incredibly well timed to what's going on in the video, really appreciated that
I like star killer in sc4. I wished he got his two wielded blue sabers as a alternate fight style.
Dark Forces 2 always has a special place in my heart. I got it cheap with the add on pack and was just blown away because of the light and dark side paths and powers, the amazing sprawling huge levels, the sound design and music and of course the live action cut scenes. Slaughtering enemies with a lightsaber and force choking them was 👌 the Dark Jedi boss battles were cool... And Kyle Katarn was a better character than Starkiller
A Star Wars "What if?" or "Legends" series would be so good. So games, tv shows, movies can push their creativity to the max and not worry about what's canon or not. As long as the quality is there not quantity. So Force Unleashed 3 would be named as "Star Wars: The Force Unleashed III" _Legends_
That homer was spot on I saw comments about it thaught it cant be that good but Ill admit I was wrong
I think this was the first game I ever beat in one sitting. I didn't even play it for that long, the game was just that astoundingly short. Wasn't even that mad, it was still pretty fun.
Yoda Unleashed? God I can’t believe we missed out on Ketamine and Toyota Prius Simulator 2010
I’d love to see Sam Witwer and Ashley Eckstein act out a scenario where Starkiller met Ahsoka. They’d have quite a lot to bond over.
Still wished that could be trully canonical just to see these two interact in a friendly manner.
Why does Ahsoka need to be shoehorned into everything these days
That could've been interesting (Starkiller would be an inquisitor though if Disney transfers him to the new canon)
@@Bingo_the_Pug because she's one of the few characters that haven't been bastardized or turned into a joke by Disney since her creator is almost always the one handling her story
@@l3R0K3N8BIT That's called mindless fanservice and Disney went out of their way to hire him so I don't know what you're smoking.
God l hope Eclipse lives up to half the potential the High Republic books set up for it.
It’s also worth noting that Starkiller was intended to be rebooted as an Inquisitor in Season 2 of Rebels at some point, but he was ultimately cut.
Everytime I read some things about Rebels it's about a character that was going to be in it but got cut.
Developers: Boy, developing SW games under the pressure of Lucasarts sure was streesful. Hopefully Disney will be handling the games rights better.
Disney: makes a exclusivity deal with EA.
Pretty much everyone: ○_○
Speaking of LucasArts, has Sam & Max Freelance Police been covered here yet?
@@ILsocker I believe not.
Well at least EA's exclusive deals with star wars is going end in 2023 sure it's a long wait but what can you do
@@tykamen5588 Didn't they cancelled the deal earlier? Pretty sure there were news about it at the time.
If it helped Sam Witwer land 'Days Gone,' it was all worth it.
I played this game a few times, it's one of those games you could tell a bit got cut and honestly the difficulty was a bit too low for my tastes. Like you got a lot more powerful far too quickly compared to the original.
I think this had become my favourite series on TH-cam. Keep up the great work.
"God of Star Wars"
I can't wait for the reboot where Starkiller is a bearded old man raising his son.
"I cut off your hand!"
"I have NO hand."
Bruh. XD
God i remember getting upset after i beat this game as a kid. Games that are too short are just my biggest gripe with games cause i genuinely was having fun with this game. Hacking and slashing stormtroopers in this was amazing honestly. As well as disintigrating them and the mind trick which was the best and funniest ability in the game.
And then it just ends the day i started it.
I wish they explored on whether or not the Starkiller from this game is the same one from the first. It would've made a very interesting plotline. And would've answered some plot holes like, "Why is this clone the only one who didn't go crazy?" or "Why does he have flashbacks of someone else's memories?". The Sonic series did this pretty well actually, with Shadow the Hedgehog.
They could've easily reconned Galen's death by having him in a coma instead
One of the few games I had for my Xbox as a kid. I played the shit out of it, probably beating it like 50 times cause of how short the game was. There was one thing though....one thing that BOILED MY BLOOD! Where was the second black lightsaber! I wanted to duel weild the black lightsabers so hard but I swear the second one was just straight up nowhere. Add this with the fact I was too young to know what Google is and it was a lot of checking every nook in cranny
Fun fact, my older brother worked on this game. Granted, he was in the sound booth for just a day, but still.
I was so shocked when I buyed this game and beat it 5 hours later that day.
Thanks for all the hard work you do, Matt! I love your channel and content. I now look forward to a new episode every week - keep being awesome!
I actually really enjoyed the second one. The final battle was so grand
My main memory of TFU was the opening mission on the PSP version, playing as DARTH FUCKING VADER, stomping my way through hordes of Wookies, completely obliterating everything in my path like it made of paper.
To this day, I don't know how the other versions opened, and don't care. I don't think any other game has made me feel as completely godlike as that did in its opening moments.
It opened the same way on the 360 version and the PS2 version I believe
This was the first game I got for my PS3. I remember playing this for hours and had beaten it at least 10 time
That Homer Simpson was a surprise to be sure, but a welcome one.
The Force Unleashed on PS2 is one of my fondest gaming experience memories, and I genuinely enjoyed II at the time...but I was also a kid and fairly easy to impress. Still, the gameplay and story both worked really well for me as a casual Star Wars fan, and I'm really sad LucasArts fucked over a promising franchise with that insanely short dev period. Looking forward to replaying the two in proper HD later this year, thanks Matt!
I actually have an idea on how the cloning part in FU2 could have worked out: have the game set some time after Return of the Jedi.
The rebels would uncover the cloning tube with Starkiller II inside, whom would immediately burst out and start attacking various enemies (regardless of allegiance), while being haunted by memories from the first game. He makes choices that can shift him between light side and dark side and he meets and fights various characters from side material.
Also includes post-credits scene where he finally encounters Luke, either to fight him offscreen (dark side ending) or to shake hands with him (light side ending).
Wow who would have thought I Just finished replaying both games this past week. And man I really did love these games even if the second one was repetitive I still very much enjoyed them and love them to this day. Awesome stuff as always Matt ❤️
The thing I recall that was odd about this game's story was that the main motivation of Starkiller was that he suddenly loved the woman pilot that worked with him. But IIRC, there was basically nothing between them in the first game like that at all. So it just comes out of a absolutely nowhere in the second game.
I have a soft spot for Force Unleashed II since my dad introduced me to it, I can’t not hate it, even though the flaws are apparent.
The final FORCED nail in. LucasArts coffin.
I really enjoyed TFU2, I thought it qas more memorable than the first one. Such great spectacles. I can't remember the last time I got to ride a collapsing ship through an orbital blockade and directly into a planetside facility; can't remember the last time I grinned so much during a setpiece either. The voice work in both games was fresh and light too, I loved Witwer's conversational performances. It's a shame the series got iced. Thanks for making this.
I remember beating it in 4-5 hours and thinking “thats it?!”
I think The Force Unleashed 2 still is pretty good regardless of its rushed development. Grinding to get all the Kyber Crystals for different lightsaber colors was still fun as hell, and the combat didn't loose its cool factor thanks to getting two sabers this time instead of one. And also the final battle with Vader was such an epic way to end the game. Too bad the sequel never followed through.
The crystals in TFU II are not Kyber crystals. Kyber crystals aren't a Star Wars Legends thing.
So a common case of killing the goose that lays the golden eggs. They found themselves with a massive hit and wanted a sequel IMMEDIATELY. Makes you wonder how these executives get to those high positions when they are this inept at gauging an opportunity.
I will never forget that you had to suffer through a loading screen when you wanted to skill up in the first game.
I want Matt McMuscles to know that These videos are the perfect background noise for when I'm playing video games. I appreciate them.
Lucas Arts: "Somehow...Starkiller has returned."
“The Dead Speak!”
Funny story Starkiller was actually in Soul Calibur IV before he own game released which is bonkers 😂
Man I remember buying this after playing the first, I was so hype and always like the premise as well as slicing body parts from Stormtroopers, sad that it was very short and disappointing.
The fact this game was made in only 9 months and came out on store shelves is absolutely insane
What I remembered from some people (and this is me hearing those claims, YEARS AGO), is that the game is so short, that the demo is like playing most of the game because it's so repetitive.
I just say to my self that it’s another 4 hour DLC to the first and I’m not that mad about it anymore lol
Wouldn’t it be funny if a Force Unleashed 3 just gives Starkiller three lightsabers to keep up with the numbering
Wouldn't be the first character to wield 3 lightsabers.
I spent so much of this video trying to remember why Haden Blackman's name sounded familiar, and I finally remembered he'd written some comic books before you confirmed that's where he ended up through most of the '10s.
Loved the first game. I remember when I finished this one I just thought "that's it?". Felt like a short, watered down, nothing of an experience.
Great video musclebones. Hopefully they make a third Star Wars Unleashed
Hopefully some day, you'll tackle LucasArts as a whole. Their history is pretty interesting, and they have alot of original adventure games under their belt too.
They have some of the _definitive_ original adventure games under their belt. Hell, you say LucasArts to me, the first things I'm going to think of are Monkey Island and Maniac Mansion, even if they weren't quite called LucasArts yet when those first released.
@@gorimbaud I feel the same way. It sucks that LucasArts just stopped making adventure games, after 2000. I know that they don't sell as well as Star Wars but, I'd argue that some of the best LucasArts games are the ones where the devs get to experiment with their own games
@@terrorbyte5352 The 00s were also a weird time for adventure games, since they struggled a lot with the move to 3D. Though that's kind of funny for me to think about because I got into adventure games during the 00s, though mostly through older stuff or indie stuff. I was definitely more into anything 2D than 3D back then.
The story of the second game was actually really fucking interesting. A clone asking himself if it really matters if he's a clone? Maybe he is the original Starkiller? Maybe it doesn't matter at all?
All in all. It had so much goddamn potential. Too bad the devs weren't given nearly enough time to finish their magnum opus. Truly heartbreaking. I would have loved to see what the finished version would have looked like
Still impressive what they did in that short time, i can only imagine what they could’ve done with 2 to 3 years especially on the narrative aspect since I thought the combat was pretty solid even tho a little stiff
Force unleashed 3 and 1313 gets canceled
10 year old me: *Aggressively punching the air*
25 year old me: *helping 10 year old me because THIS STILL SUM BS*
Can confirm that the book for the sequel was much better than the actual game
Nice pull at the end there with the Force Commander music, that really takes me back
I still find myself kinda wondering whatever happened to SWTOR. I remember buying it and playing it and thinking it felt cool, but then one day I looked around and noticed that basically everyone in my guild had stopped playing, and at the time I assumed they had all gone off to play Mass Effect 3 and would be back once they were done there, but they never came back. The meme of "TORtanic" had taken hold but I never really knew exactly why.
If you want, NerdSlayer did a pretty good video detailing the rise and fall of SWTOR
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The best things Star Wars Visions did was tell stories not weighed down by the film canon.
I think the franchise won't be able to move forward until they, in effect, "let the past die. Kill it if you have to."
I don't get why they just don't make Legend games and series/movies. I am sure alot of fans would Love stuff like the Thrawn trilogy on screen or another Jedi Knight game with Kyle Katarn. Just label it as Legends!
@@Bembel81 Because people would bitch and moan about that too instead of actually playing the games and watching the series/movies.
The Force Unleashed 3 being about trying to keep Vader contained, fleeing from Boba (with maybe some of his lore being shown), and then the final boss being a forced loss against Vader as you realize he's been fucking with you this whole time would have been terrifying and awesome.
Shame they dropped the ball with TFU 2.
This game was a heartbreaker. They HAD an easy way to continue the story and that was continuing the dark side ending where Starkiller killed Vader and became the Emperors apprentice. TFU2 did so bad that the Endor DLC which did continue the Dark Side ending missions of TFU1 (although with other continuity errors) was forced to be sold for only for a dollar.
I think the reason they didn’t continue the dark side ending from TFU1 is because there’s a rule in LucasArts regarding multiple endings in Star Wars games: The Light Side always wins. This is why it’s canon that Galen died at the end of TFU1, and it’s also why Darth Revan is canonically stated as permanently returning to the Jedi Order.
Somehow Starkiller returned
Wow, that voice edit of Homer saying "Starkiller" was really good
Oh my god the Imperial Death March Leviathan Mix!!! One of the greatest tracks from the pre-youtube internet age EVER! Everyone here needs to go download that track, it's such a banger.
I absolutely love this series
I was watching Always Sunny season 3, episode 3 with my sister recently, and recognised Sam Witwer as an extra with a couple of lines of dialogue. Although admittedly, I mostly recognised him from Days Gone.
I didn't even know there was a 2nd game. With that said, 9 months to make it?! That's like a turn around time for PSX games. I'm amazed they were able to pump it out and less than a month for writing. Geez. I hope chasing that money was worth it?... Oh wait they pretty much want bankrupt, but then we're saved by Disney.
Well "saved by Disney" depends on who you ask
I'll always remember the Force Unleashed. The game store attendant said to me,
"Get this game. It's really cool you get to be Darth Vader's apprentice." I. Stood, looked him in the eye and said, "nah I'm a rebel." He looked at me like I was from Mars lol.