If I didn't know any better I'd say this was deliberate sabotage. "Alright, so... You're gonna adapt 6 movies into a 10 hour video game. The movies all have clashing themes so in one mission it'll be realistic and in the next you're gonna be in space wearing rubber suits and shooting lasers. Oh and you only have 2 years or you're fired, so I think it's time you rethink this whole 'sleeping' nonsense"
When a game that was a celebration of the 50 years of the James Bond franchise itself screws up the iconic and well known "Bond, James Bond" line, you knew that it would be terrible and something went wrong.
It could have been interesting if they'd done episodic missions in the style of a Hitman game and allowed you to choose between Bonds, each of which would have different skills, abilities, and equipment. It would have been cool to be able to take Daniel Craig Bond into Goldfinger, or see how Roger Moore would fare against Silva.
My guess is that's what IO will do with their Bond game. They have stated that their Bond is not going to be based on any of the actors and my guess it's going to feature original levels (with missions from the movies going to be DLC). But it wouldn't surprise me if the way to approach levels is going to be based on the various Bond eras. So relying on lots of gadgets will be like the Moore era, being more sneaky is going to be Connery based and so on.
At first, the idea seems kinda cool to have Bond see memories of the past as his prior film's... Then you think about the premise, and it quickly falls apart, since they didn't get creative with it, and had no budget for said creativity, it becomes the exact opposite of a "Legend".
Like maybe if they had a lot more time/money and some creative ideas (Aka not coincide with a particular movie) then I could see a Bond anthology working
If they removed the necessity of linking everything together they could've easily made it an anthology series. For example the previous 007 is now retired so a new agent is chosen and they look back at all the other 007 missions to understand the role. So the player would be able to enjoy all the previous movies in game form without the baggage of having to stitch them together to fit the plot of a singular story.
They could have aimed for an Arkham Asylum kind of deal where he's forced into confronting his gallery of famous baddies in a location he can't easily escape from. I mean how many villains had a damned island/fortress they could have used for the setting?
Activision: "You HAVE to get his out in time for the movie's release!" Also Activision: "Do NOT spoil the ending of the movie! In fact, don't even include that part yet!" As always, the higher-ups fuck themselves over and then blame the people they ordered to fuck it up.
@@marko-gj1uj The Lost World: Jurassic Park arcade game kinda avoided spoilers, they just cut off before the T-Rex attack on San Francisco, with an end screen stating, "Watch the movie to see how it ends".
plus on top of that, the Skyfall level at the end isn't even about the end of Skyfall the film! plus plus they pulled it from stores 2 months after release! that part of the video made me go "WHAT?!!? WHAT?!?" in my empty apartment 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I'd like to see an episode on Foodfight. Everyone talks about the production of that in like two lines and then moves to the thing itself but I want to know about the history.
The franchise was Bond, but the job seemed more Mission Impossible. When will publishers learn that rushed development only tarnishes the work? I hope the developers feel a quantum of solace from viewing this laser-focused examination. You're a legend, Matt!
It could be a neat idea if they went with the premise that 007/ James Bond is a call sign and all the actors that have played him are actually different agents using that name. That way you could do the wacky Cold War stuff without trying to shoehorn it into the modern canon. Make it like M or Moneypenny is reviewing old declassified case files or something.
I feel like this game could have been interesting if it was just the plot of Skyfall but with flashback sequences to prior films that somehow related to the present day story. Like him "dying" could have tied to You Only Live Twice, Severine's death linking to On Her Majesty's Secret Service, Bond having to deal with a mirror image of himself could tie into The Man With The Golden Gun, M and Bond being cut off from all the MI6 resources could tie into Licence To Kill and finally the idea of Silva being betrayed by his country could have reflected Bond's capture by North Korea in Die Another Day.
To this day I still haven't seen any Bond moves in full out of a smidge of mild indifference and general lack of time due to the absurd amount of movies that exist, but videos talking about their games like this one are super fascinating
It is hard to get into such a massive long running franchise, especially one with so many highs and lows as 007. Like, Bond's movies have run the entire spectrum, from great (Goldfinger) to goofy (Moonraker) to plain awful (Die Another Day), but that said they're all certainly enjoyable if you're into spy thrillers, action flicks and hammy heroes.
@@ahok1937 WHAT LMFAO Never Say Never Again is not only an unofficial Bond (since it's not made by EON), it's also widely regarded as a gigantic piece of trash. That film sucks on pretty much every level. Just watch the original Thunderball instead.
I do find it funny that they may be making 007 "more sneaky" when in reality if you watch the movies Bond is constantly shit at his job as a spy, constantly killing people, being super conspicuious, etc. He's such a shit spy that his trademark catchphrase is literally SAYING HIS NAME to people.
@@slipstream7324 Yeah True, i;ve never read the stories so i dont know how much it is in there. But for example, in You Only Live Twice, its pretty much a spelled out plot point that Mr Osato knew who Bond was practically as soon as he stepped foot in Tokyo. Although Connery with taped eyelids preteneding to be an asian guy is gonna raise some eyebrows, so maybe that particular one is on M.
There's a theory out there that James Bond is actually a genuine psychopath who is sent in to cause as much noise and damage as possible so that a real spy is able to complete the actual mission because every mook and hench is too busy dealing with Bond.
No joke, watch Goldfinger sometime - it's regarded as a classic, but Bond fucks things up pretty much nonstop from beginning to end in that movie. Hell, the car chase ends because he gets outsmarted by a mirror.
@@t-in-japan Holy hell, I love that theory! Never heard it before, but now my imagination is running with it! Now I kinda want to see a movie from the actual GOOD spy's perspective. Sadly, I'm sure that would probably get F'ed up too, but thanks for sharing!
I QA tested this game! It was my first and only job as a tester, we were a tiny team compared to black ops II. Sadly during my time there, a lead Eurocom programmer died and it really affected the morale and development. We were in Québec and they were in Europe which really complicated the whole process.
So Activision's choices killed both their licensed game department and an entire studio? Guess that's what happens when you set out to make broken Bonds.
I think the mistake was trying to tie it all in to Skyfalls story line. As a Bond movie fan, I would love to play a level from each film in a game. No story arcs. Just let me play Moonraker and Live and Let Die missions.
I remember playing this on the PS3 when it released and getting the Skyfall DLC eventually. I used to also play the online multiplayer but was shocked to see it shut down so quick. When Matt spoke about developers not giving you the ending to a game and instead having to purchase an ending I immediately thought of Asura's Wrath and lol'ed when he put it up on screen. What a scummy BS move they did with that.
@@SpScarletSpider That also reminds me of what they did with Megaman Legends 3. I remember tweets from them blaming fans for not having contributed more ideas and that's why it got canned. Isn't it their job and what they're paid for to come up with ideas for the next game? Literally, Capcom and Konami have both done some pretty despicable things.
Honestly, this seems like the perfect premise for a "live-service" game- do it over years and make each james bond movie into it's own expac or dlc. People love bond, and having people be secret agents wouldn't be too tough to fit in. Of course, if Activision did it it would have still wound up a giant steaming load, but it would have made more sense logistically.
I remember getting the SkyFall moved for my parents wedding anniversary and spent all day cleaning up and decorating a space, cooking dinner, and by the time they were ready I fell asleep within the first 10 minutes and kinda woke up in the last 5 minutes.
I think 'Spore' is a game that could make for a good Wha Happun? I remember a developers blog lining out an almost 10 years of development that had lofty goals, but not a lot of how to put everything together.
Plus its launch was infamously rough due to EA going overboard with the DRM, to the point where it directly caused Spore to become the most pirated game in history at the time it released.
I'll be honest - personally, I *loved* the "best of Bond" concept in Legends, and the idea of just adapting the biggest setpieces from a film from each actor's tenure. A full Goldfinger or Moonraker standalone game wouldn't work - but taking the action setpieces from them and bundling them in a package? The narrative's free (as in the films) to take a back seat to the action. Die Another Day feels *designed* for a game like that! I truly believe it was the punishing release window that threw Legends, as opposed to the "plot". Goldeneye 2010 was a brilliant game, because Eurocom had the time to get it right. Given the same freedom on Legends, I think it could've been something special. Alas...
Appreciate this vid on Christmas Matt! I played nightfire to death and nothing just hit the same after it for me in the 007 line of games. Have a good holidays everyone!
I know you don't do PC games much, but Limbo of the Lost would be a perfect Wha Happun episode. It's got basically all of the hallmarks of this series, between a tortured development, terrible product, and even a great deal of plagiarism.
Matt is goat for coming up with fresh content during the holidays. If you read this, know that I’m watching this in self isolation with coughing through covid. Thanks for this. Maybe one day we can see a DJ Hero story too.
The "premise" of this game makes no sense since the Craig films are in an alternate universe/continuity. Which means that this Bond is remembering things that he never did. "Why are someone else's memories flashing before my eyes?"
I know that the theory that "James Bond" is a codename shared by many agents throughout time is debunked by canon, but I feel the franchise's story quality would improve so much. This game could have the potential to make more sense, it wouldn't need the flashback in the water intro and could separate each Bond having his own tone and could make for an interesting game.
The problem with that (or rather, EON's problem with that) is they insist on only letting spin off media be made that features the current james bond. it's what screwed over the Rare made remake of goldeneye in favor of the daniel craig one. a well funded compilation of Bond stories with all the different actors and their respective tones intact could have been cool. but no, we gotta retrofit them to somehow being all the same guy no matter how little sense that makes.
I'm more baffled with needing a framing device like that in the first place. I'd have been happy with the framing device Balloon Moose Games used for Maximum Action, where the levels are literally movies on VHS you put in a VCR to play through. This is about celebrating the movies, right? A 50 year legacy spanning generations, eras, and periods of world history? Celebrate _that._
Since he mentioned Asura's Wrath and that whole pay more money to see ending, I REALLY wanna know how bad it was behind the scenes of that game's development
That game has so much going for it. The core gameplay itself is shallow and repetitive but the story, characters, music, spectacle, etc make up for it in my opinion (kinda like how the 1st Last of Us is a mediocre game with a great story), but because of Capcom's bullshit it'll forever go down in history as that game that tries to make you pay to see the real ending. It doesn't help that this was going on the same year Capcom was pulling that on disc DLC shit (as well as SFXT's numerous other controversies).
Absolutely loved this video. I feel so bad for Eurocom. They made incredible James Bond games along with Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets. The music in this Wha Happun was perfectly chosen.
Activision: "Get the game out in time for this movie's release, but don't include the level that ties into the movie!" ... I don't even have words for how dumb that is.
Let's not forget that Craig's run as Bond was supposed to be a prequel series, so he couldn't have flashbacks to events that he hadn't experienced yet. Also the creator has accepted and confirmed fan canon that each actor played a different "James Bond," meaning that Craig's Bond in this game would be having flashbacks *to the future* of *other people's memories* !!! Oh, and f--- ActiBlizzard.
The problem with Bond games is that Goldeneye is a name held up alongside the greatest FPS's in history. It's almost impossible to hit that lofty ceiling again (I'm aware Goldeneye has aged but the memory of how good it was at the time is still powerful). It was a rare time for Bond games (excuse the pun). The recent films also don't really lend themselves to a video-game format since they went with slower more realistic plots. Still, always interested in a Bond game!
It's a similar problem that the From Russia With Love game had. The movie it's based on is mostly espionage with one big action scene at the end, which doesn't make for a marketable video game, so they had to include a ton of brand new sequences and even incorporate elements and gadgets from Goldfinger and Thunderball just to make a more exciting game. Well, that, and the fact that the Thunderball/Spectre rights were still being fought over, so they had to rename the evil organization Bond was fighting against to "The Octopus".
"Gustav Graves. Did you remember him? Of course, you don't." How a man who wears a badass uniform with a really awesome combat exoskeleton can be the least memorable Bond villain ever created?
I played this game when it came out, but never completed... I watched review of this game back in the day, on the TV. A quote from that review: 'The controls suck so much, that it feels like 007 holds the gun with his bare foot.'
7:36 Not "On Her Majesty's Secret Service", at least not anymore as that film is considered to be a highly regarded film among the majority of the fandom, despite starring the weakest Bond actor. License To Kill to a lesser extent, has been getting a decent amount of reappraisal from fans.
Hey Matt, long time watcher, first time caller, great vid as per usual! I’d like to suggest Halo 5 as an episode. It’s very clear that there’s a massive difference in the ad campaign for “hunt the truth” and the campaign we got in the end, and I’m guessing there’s some behind the scenes reasons for it and why the campaign was very lacklustre.
I'd love to see a wha happun on Halo 2. I've heard that game was a nightmare to work on, another case of a game's success being nothing short of miraculous in the end.
I remember trying this game ONCE on the WiiU, and couldn't even get past the first scene, because I had no clue what to do. I was stuck in that bedroom, staring at Jill Masterson's gold-painted corpse for a solid 20 minutes, with no clue on how to proceed. There's a good chance that it was glitched, and I was stuck. Doesn't sound like I missed out on much of anything, though, from what I've heard on the rest of the game.
You should talk about security breach. That game has so much wrong with it despite a substantial development time that I am insanely curious about what went wrong
Same. It was most definitely a development hell issue based on the dev team's previous work (FNAF: Help Wanted; the VR title). Scott Cawthon stepping away from the franchise in the middle of development couldn't have helped matters. Also, based on the release date (Dec 📅), the publisher clearly fell into the death trap of "force the dev team to crank the game out before the holidays; quality control be damned". Word in hacker circles is that literal **GIGATONS** of content was left on the cutting room floor for Steel Wool to make the release date forced on them. Would explain why the game feels patched together...and only 1 of the 6 endings has an actual cutscene.
@@DarkDragon1889 I know, it's bonkers! When I got the glorified storyboard ending I couldn't help but hear Matt's voice in my head saying "that's some serious what happened shit right there"
What this game should’ve been was a celebration of all the bond movies. Each movie could’ve been a scenario in the game and each featuring that specific bond from the movie the stage is based off of. This could’ve been the No Way Home of 007 games where all of it culminates into a stage or whatever where they’re all working together or something. And the box art could’ve featured all 6 bonds like in a Dissidia: final fantasy or kingdom hearts game where the characters are front and center. Maybe one day 🤷♂️
This was the biggest letdown as a Bond fan in terms for video games. With the 2000s being a good mix of titles and Goldeneye 2010 being pretty decent, it was such a shame to have a title with so much going for it to fall flat.
One of the reasons why I really disliked Legends was from a continuity stand point. Seeing Craig's Bond all torn up about Theresa's death was just awkward, considering that his era of Bond was slated as a reboot, and his major love interest was Vesper later Madeline. Hell looking back on this game now in the context of No Time to Die and it parallels it just feels even weirder.
I'm actually pretty excited for IOI's upcoming Bond game. If the Hitman devs can't nail James Bond, no one can. They're the perfect studio for the job.
Well, now that you mentioned it, a Splinter Cell video WOULD be nice. Especially wondering about Double Agent's odd case where the PS2/Wii version was more faithful to previous games, whereas the PS3/360 version was more experimental, yet also more marketed.
@@forklauncher Damn, it did release for Wii, didn't know that. I thought it was "only" (lol) released for 6 different systems. Mental to think it came out on 7 different systems and was two quite different games as well.
Now, I'm just imagining Matt coming home to Mama McMuscles from school: "Mom, I'm home! What an amaz--" "ACTIVISION! FUCK 'EM!" Merry Christmas btw! 🤘😁
honestly, the concept of 6 films in one game feels like high risk, high reward. in concept or as a fan, it could come off as fun and engaging, but threading all those missions is just a mess. If only they did more to make each level feel different, it could’ve possibly been ok.
You never shake a martini martinis are always stirred, shaking a martini ruins the integrity of the drink and very heavily waters it down. The only reason I can think that Bond would order that as often as he does is because its some type of MI6 code or something
Man, can't believe Hank Scorpio, an actual supervillain, is a better employer than Bobby Kotick.
Did Bobby Kotick have hammocks? No? I rest my case.
To be fair, Hank Scorpio is a better employer than pretty much every gaming CEO
Well to quote Kim Possible about Hank Scorpio and also refering to another known villain?
Bad man, good manners.
That's the joke. He's the best boss you can have but he's a supervillain.
who's to say Bobby Kotick isn't a supervillain?
If I didn't know any better I'd say this was deliberate sabotage. "Alright, so... You're gonna adapt 6 movies into a 10 hour video game. The movies all have clashing themes so in one mission it'll be realistic and in the next you're gonna be in space wearing rubber suits and shooting lasers. Oh and you only have 2 years or you're fired, so I think it's time you rethink this whole 'sleeping' nonsense"
You're right about everything except the "deliberate sabotage" part. That's just how publishers like Activision _operate._
I'd say that's a plan worthy of a true Bond villain.
@@yutuberocks22 Amazing comment like this stuck in a reply box.
When a game that was a celebration of the 50 years of the James Bond franchise itself screws up the iconic and well known "Bond, James Bond" line, you knew that it would be terrible and something went wrong.
It could have been interesting if they'd done episodic missions in the style of a Hitman game and allowed you to choose between Bonds, each of which would have different skills, abilities, and equipment. It would have been cool to be able to take Daniel Craig Bond into Goldfinger, or see how Roger Moore would fare against Silva.
My guess is that's what IO will do with their Bond game. They have stated that their Bond is not going to be based on any of the actors and my guess it's going to feature original levels (with missions from the movies going to be DLC). But it wouldn't surprise me if the way to approach levels is going to be based on the various Bond eras. So relying on lots of gadgets will be like the Moore era, being more sneaky is going to be Connery based and so on.
They only had the image rights for Craig iirc
thats actually what i tought this was
Hitman devs will do the next game. With help of the Tomb Raider team
Ah the holiday season. The deadline that most companies strive for but forget that the stuff they put out should actually be good.
Man, I've been waiting for this one for a LONG time! Glad to see 007 legends finally get an episode, and on Christmas no less!
Replayed the game not too long ago and have been waiting for this episode ! Definitely a lot of “what happened “ problems .
26th December for me, but still a good Christmas present.
At first, the idea seems kinda cool to have Bond see memories of the past as his prior film's... Then you think about the premise, and it quickly falls apart, since they didn't get creative with it, and had no budget for said creativity, it becomes the exact opposite of a "Legend".
Like maybe if they had a lot more time/money and some creative ideas (Aka not coincide with a particular movie) then I could see a Bond anthology working
I guess it's technically true in the map sense. "James Bond is located here, here, and here."
If they removed the necessity of linking everything together they could've easily made it an anthology series. For example the previous 007 is now retired so a new agent is chosen and they look back at all the other 007 missions to understand the role. So the player would be able to enjoy all the previous movies in game form without the baggage of having to stitch them together to fit the plot of a singular story.
They could have aimed for an Arkham Asylum kind of deal where he's forced into confronting his gallery of famous baddies in a location he can't easily escape from. I mean how many villains had a damned island/fortress they could have used for the setting?
007: contract, exept hitman contract was good for what it was.
Activision: "You HAVE to get his out in time for the movie's release!"
Also Activision: "Do NOT spoil the ending of the movie! In fact, don't even include that part yet!"
As always, the higher-ups fuck themselves over and then blame the people they ordered to fuck it up.
Other movie tie in Games: spoil movies
@@marko-gj1uj The Lost World: Jurassic Park arcade game kinda avoided spoilers, they just cut off before the T-Rex attack on San Francisco, with an end screen stating, "Watch the movie to see how it ends".
plus on top of that, the Skyfall level at the end isn't even about the end of Skyfall the film!
plus plus they pulled it from stores 2 months after release!
that part of the video made me go "WHAT?!!? WHAT?!?" in my empty apartment 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I'd like to see an episode on Foodfight. Everyone talks about the production of that in like two lines and then moves to the thing itself but I want to know about the history.
I second this.
@@Flood520 i Third this.
The franchise was Bond, but the job seemed more Mission Impossible. When will publishers learn that rushed development only tarnishes the work? I hope the developers feel a quantum of solace from viewing this laser-focused examination. You're a legend, Matt!
It could be a neat idea if they went with the premise that 007/ James Bond is a call sign and all the actors that have played him are actually different agents using that name. That way you could do the wacky Cold War stuff without trying to shoehorn it into the modern canon. Make it like M or Moneypenny is reviewing old declassified case files or something.
I feel like this game could have been interesting if it was just the plot of Skyfall but with flashback sequences to prior films that somehow related to the present day story. Like him "dying" could have tied to You Only Live Twice, Severine's death linking to On Her Majesty's Secret Service, Bond having to deal with a mirror image of himself could tie into The Man With The Golden Gun, M and Bond being cut off from all the MI6 resources could tie into Licence To Kill and finally the idea of Silva being betrayed by his country could have reflected Bond's capture by North Korea in Die Another Day.
On Her Majesty’s is a great film. Totally different than the other Bond films, but wonderful.
To this day I still haven't seen any Bond moves in full out of a smidge of mild indifference and general lack of time due to the absurd amount of movies that exist, but videos talking about their games like this one are super fascinating
Its worth it to watch at least the 1st movie and then any 1 movie per decade, its interesting to see how values and visions for the character change.
It is hard to get into such a massive long running franchise, especially one with so many highs and lows as 007. Like, Bond's movies have run the entire spectrum, from great (Goldfinger) to goofy (Moonraker) to plain awful (Die Another Day), but that said they're all certainly enjoyable if you're into spy thrillers, action flicks and hammy heroes.
@@Sandman_Slim I don't see any major errors with the sentences.
@@Galuna the bond movies are pretty standard length for movies though
@@ahok1937 WHAT LMFAO Never Say Never Again is not only an unofficial Bond (since it's not made by EON), it's also widely regarded as a gigantic piece of trash. That film sucks on pretty much every level. Just watch the original Thunderball instead.
I do find it funny that they may be making 007 "more sneaky" when in reality if you watch the movies Bond is constantly shit at his job as a spy, constantly killing people, being super conspicuious, etc. He's such a shit spy that his trademark catchphrase is literally SAYING HIS NAME to people.
as a bond fan i enjoy this comment and it made me laugh. so true, though i'm sure it's from producers wanting action
@@slipstream7324 Yeah True, i;ve never read the stories so i dont know how much it is in there. But for example, in You Only Live Twice, its pretty much a spelled out plot point that Mr Osato knew who Bond was practically as soon as he stepped foot in Tokyo. Although Connery with taped eyelids preteneding to be an asian guy is gonna raise some eyebrows, so maybe that particular one is on M.
There's a theory out there that James Bond is actually a genuine psychopath who is sent in to cause as much noise and damage as possible so that a real spy is able to complete the actual mission because every mook and hench is too busy dealing with Bond.
No joke, watch Goldfinger sometime - it's regarded as a classic, but Bond fucks things up pretty much nonstop from beginning to end in that movie. Hell, the car chase ends because he gets outsmarted by a mirror.
@@t-in-japan Holy hell, I love that theory! Never heard it before, but now my imagination is running with it! Now I kinda want to see a movie from the actual GOOD spy's perspective. Sadly, I'm sure that would probably get F'ed up too, but thanks for sharing!
I remember playing this game with my dad when I was a kid, we were both huge Bond fans, but even then I always felt like this game never existed.
Okay so after finishing the video it seems they delisted the game super quick, THAT'S FUCKED
@@Sandman_Slim Yeah, local multiplayer, the closest I ever got to experience that classic goldeneye multiplayer every boomer talks about.
@@rootfelixfake6716 People who grew up with goldeneye are millennials or some gen x.the youngest “boomers” were 33 when that game came out.
I QA tested this game! It was my first and only job as a tester, we were a tiny team compared to black ops II. Sadly during my time there, a lead Eurocom programmer died and it really affected the morale and development. We were in Québec and they were in Europe which really complicated the whole process.
My favorite James Bond game is still Everything or Nothing. The missions are designed so well and the coop was addicting.
Everything or Nothing should have been the final Bond film of the Brosnan Era… at least we got Willem Dafoe as a Bond villain
So Activision's choices killed both their licensed game department and an entire studio? Guess that's what happens when you set out to make broken Bonds.
@@Poever Fr it's like SpongeBob for Viacom, literally making an entire percent of their profits
I think the mistake was trying to tie it all in to Skyfalls story line. As a Bond movie fan, I would love to play a level from each film in a game. No story arcs. Just let me play Moonraker and Live and Let Die missions.
“No, Eurocom, we expect you to close.”
007 Legends: "Do you expect me to sell?"
Activision: "No, I expect you to die!"
I sure miss good Bond games. Here's hoping Project 007 will be good.
I remember playing this on the PS3 when it released and getting the Skyfall DLC eventually. I used to also play the online multiplayer but was shocked to see it shut down so quick. When Matt spoke about developers not giving you the ending to a game and instead having to purchase an ending I immediately thought of Asura's Wrath and lol'ed when he put it up on screen. What a scummy BS move they did with that.
That was peak scummy Capcom, sadly.
@@SpScarletSpider That also reminds me of what they did with Megaman Legends 3. I remember tweets from them blaming fans for not having contributed more ideas and that's why it got canned. Isn't it their job and what they're paid for to come up with ideas for the next game? Literally, Capcom and Konami have both done some pretty despicable things.
Honestly, this seems like the perfect premise for a "live-service" game- do it over years and make each james bond movie into it's own expac or dlc. People love bond, and having people be secret agents wouldn't be too tough to fit in. Of course, if Activision did it it would have still wound up a giant steaming load, but it would have made more sense logistically.
I remember getting the SkyFall moved for my parents wedding anniversary and spent all day cleaning up and decorating a space, cooking dinner, and by the time they were ready I fell asleep within the first 10 minutes and kinda woke up in the last 5 minutes.
7:30 Wait... what? "Goldfinder", "License to Kill" & "OHMSS" are regarded as three of the best movies in the franchise.
Merry Christmas, Matt, thanks for the episodes!
Happy holidays!
I think 'Spore' is a game that could make for a good Wha Happun? I remember a developers blog lining out an almost 10 years of development that had lofty goals, but not a lot of how to put everything together.
I liked that game, wasn’t it a Mac exclusive?
@@emotionalsupportostrich2480 It was on both MAc and PC
Plus its launch was infamously rough due to EA going overboard with the DRM, to the point where it directly caused Spore to become the most pirated game in history at the time it released.
I'll be honest - personally, I *loved* the "best of Bond" concept in Legends, and the idea of just adapting the biggest setpieces from a film from each actor's tenure. A full Goldfinger or Moonraker standalone game wouldn't work - but taking the action setpieces from them and bundling them in a package? The narrative's free (as in the films) to take a back seat to the action. Die Another Day feels *designed* for a game like that!
I truly believe it was the punishing release window that threw Legends, as opposed to the "plot". Goldeneye 2010 was a brilliant game, because Eurocom had the time to get it right. Given the same freedom on Legends, I think it could've been something special. Alas...
Appreciate this vid on Christmas Matt! I played nightfire to death and nothing just hit the same after it for me in the 007 line of games.
Have a good holidays everyone!
On Her Majesties Secret Service is underrated.
I remember preordering this game. It was one of the last games I ever preordered.
Goldeneye menu music is LEGENDARY!
I know you don't do PC games much, but Limbo of the Lost would be a perfect Wha Happun episode. It's got basically all of the hallmarks of this series, between a tortured development, terrible product, and even a great deal of plagiarism.
I'm honestly surprised he hasn't done it yet.
Matt is goat for coming up with fresh content during the holidays. If you read this, know that I’m watching this in self isolation with coughing through covid. Thanks for this. Maybe one day we can see a DJ Hero story too.
Ahh sorry to hear! Hope you get better soon!
Thanks for all the awesome videos the last year and beyond!
Hope you and everyone is taking care 💖😸
Love the 5:27 use of the track Perfect Darkness ...Great nostalgia.
Matt thank you! Im stuck in quarantine and this made my day better.
Get well soon. We’re all rooting for you ♥️
Rest and eat a lot of foods and vitamins, get well soon!
The "premise" of this game makes no sense since the Craig films are in an alternate universe/continuity. Which means that this Bond is remembering things that he never did. "Why are someone else's memories flashing before my eyes?"
I know that the theory that "James Bond" is a codename shared by many agents throughout time is debunked by canon, but I feel the franchise's story quality would improve so much. This game could have the potential to make more sense, it wouldn't need the flashback in the water intro and could separate each Bond having his own tone and could make for an interesting game.
The problem with that (or rather, EON's problem with that) is they insist on only letting spin off media be made that features the current james bond. it's what screwed over the Rare made remake of goldeneye in favor of the daniel craig one. a well funded compilation of Bond stories with all the different actors and their respective tones intact could have been cool. but no, we gotta retrofit them to somehow being all the same guy no matter how little sense that makes.
I'm more baffled with needing a framing device like that in the first place. I'd have been happy with the framing device Balloon Moose Games used for Maximum Action, where the levels are literally movies on VHS you put in a VCR to play through. This is about celebrating the movies, right? A 50 year legacy spanning generations, eras, and periods of world history? Celebrate _that._
Since he mentioned Asura's Wrath and that whole pay more money to see ending, I REALLY wanna know how bad it was behind the scenes of that game's development
That game has so much going for it. The core gameplay itself is shallow and repetitive but the story, characters, music, spectacle, etc make up for it in my opinion (kinda like how the 1st Last of Us is a mediocre game with a great story), but because of Capcom's bullshit it'll forever go down in history as that game that tries to make you pay to see the real ending. It doesn't help that this was going on the same year Capcom was pulling that on disc DLC shit (as well as SFXT's numerous other controversies).
Congratulations, you’ve gotten your wish!
It’s a great Christmas present to get another episode of Wha Happun!
I'll be honest. The Golden Eye game for N64 got me into the 007 franchise in the first place.
Hearing the music from it in this video made me want to replay it, haha.
007 Legends Wii U owner here. Thank you for making me cackle at calling me a sicko. For some reason that really got me.
Absolutely loved this video. I feel so bad for Eurocom. They made incredible James Bond games along with Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets. The music in this Wha Happun was perfectly chosen.
Everyone: So is this a crossover game or a new story?
Activision: Yes
Honestly I feel like you got to give them some slack for choosing Moonraker, because it feels like the most video-game-worthy of any Bond movie
Releasing content even on Christmas Day! Much respect man!
I feel like Activision is eventually going to get their own What Happun.
Everyone would rejoice if they went bankrupt _and_ were featured in a What Happun episode.
Activision: "Get the game out in time for this movie's release, but don't include the level that ties into the movie!" ... I don't even have words for how dumb that is.
Let's not forget that Craig's run as Bond was supposed to be a prequel series, so he couldn't have flashbacks to events that he hadn't experienced yet. Also the creator has accepted and confirmed fan canon that each actor played a different "James Bond," meaning that Craig's Bond in this game would be having flashbacks *to the future* of *other people's memories* !!!
Oh, and f--- ActiBlizzard.
Assassin's Weed
The problem with Bond games is that Goldeneye is a name held up alongside the greatest FPS's in history. It's almost impossible to hit that lofty ceiling again (I'm aware Goldeneye has aged but the memory of how good it was at the time is still powerful).
It was a rare time for Bond games (excuse the pun). The recent films also don't really lend themselves to a video-game format since they went with slower more realistic plots.
Still, always interested in a Bond game!
It's a similar problem that the From Russia With Love game had. The movie it's based on is mostly espionage with one big action scene at the end, which doesn't make for a marketable video game, so they had to include a ton of brand new sequences and even incorporate elements and gadgets from Goldfinger and Thunderball just to make a more exciting game. Well, that, and the fact that the Thunderball/Spectre rights were still being fought over, so they had to rename the evil organization Bond was fighting against to "The Octopus".
Hopefully IO interactive can do something special with the license
Merry Christmas and thanks for getting an episode out on Christmas.
"Gustav Graves. Did you remember him? Of course, you don't."
How a man who wears a badass uniform with a really awesome combat exoskeleton can be the least memorable Bond villain ever created?
I played this game when it came out, but never completed... I watched review of this game back in the day, on the TV. A quote from that review: 'The controls suck so much, that it feels like 007 holds the gun with his bare foot.'
Merry Christmas. Thank you for this.
Funnily enough 2012 year's cod was Black Ops 2, a spy thriller with multiple endings and one of the best reputations in the brand's history.
Yesss, prolly the worst 007 game released alongside arguably the best CoD.
7:36 Not "On Her Majesty's Secret Service", at least not anymore as that film is considered to be a highly regarded film among the majority of the fandom, despite starring the weakest Bond actor. License To Kill to a lesser extent, has been getting a decent amount of reappraisal from fans.
Hey Matt, long time watcher, first time caller, great vid as per usual!
I’d like to suggest Halo 5 as an episode. It’s very clear that there’s a massive difference in the ad campaign for “hunt the truth” and the campaign we got in the end, and I’m guessing there’s some behind the scenes reasons for it and why the campaign was very lacklustre.
I'd love to see a wha happun on Halo 2. I've heard that game was a nightmare to work on, another case of a game's success being nothing short of miraculous in the end.
Should be noted that Eurocom was never owned by Activision. I know nothing in this video says they were, but it's an easy conclusion to jump to.
A new WH episode today is a nice Christmas present on a day that was kinda lonely. Thank you McMuscles
I remember trying this game ONCE on the WiiU, and couldn't even get past the first scene, because I had no clue what to do. I was stuck in that bedroom, staring at Jill Masterson's gold-painted corpse for a solid 20 minutes, with no clue on how to proceed. There's a good chance that it was glitched, and I was stuck. Doesn't sound like I missed out on much of anything, though, from what I've heard on the rest of the game.
All you had to do was pick up the cell phone on the floor by the bed.
You should talk about security breach. That game has so much wrong with it despite a substantial development time that I am insanely curious about what went wrong
Same. It was most definitely a development hell issue based on the dev team's previous work (FNAF: Help Wanted; the VR title).
Scott Cawthon stepping away from the franchise in the middle of development couldn't have helped matters. Also, based on the release date (Dec 📅), the publisher clearly fell into the death trap of "force the dev team to crank the game out before the holidays; quality control be damned".
Word in hacker circles is that literal **GIGATONS** of content was left on the cutting room floor for Steel Wool to make the release date forced on them. Would explain why the game feels patched together...and only 1 of the 6 endings has an actual cutscene.
@@DarkDragon1889 I know, it's bonkers! When I got the glorified storyboard ending I couldn't help but hear Matt's voice in my head saying "that's some serious what happened shit right there"
What this game should’ve been was a celebration of all the bond movies. Each movie could’ve been a scenario in the game and each featuring that specific bond from the movie the stage is based off of. This could’ve been the No Way Home of 007 games where all of it culminates into a stage or whatever where they’re all working together or something. And the box art could’ve featured all 6 bonds like in a Dissidia: final fantasy or kingdom hearts game where the characters are front and center. Maybe one day 🤷♂️
4:30 LOL! Those guys run allot of companies!
Eurocom: What Bond film should we adapt for Legends? Activision and EON: Yes.
NGL, I would LOVE an entire Moonraker game.
This was the biggest letdown as a Bond fan in terms for video games. With the 2000s being a good mix of titles and Goldeneye 2010 being pretty decent, it was such a shame to have a title with so much going for it to fall flat.
One of the reasons why I really disliked Legends was from a continuity stand point. Seeing Craig's Bond all torn up about Theresa's death was just awkward, considering that his era of Bond was slated as a reboot, and his major love interest was Vesper later Madeline. Hell looking back on this game now in the context of No Time to Die and it parallels it just feels even weirder.
I'm actually pretty excited for IOI's upcoming Bond game. If the Hitman devs can't nail James Bond, no one can. They're the perfect studio for the job.
If that fails, then at least we have Perfect Dark on the Xbox Series S/X coming soon.
Well, now that you mentioned it, a Splinter Cell video WOULD be nice. Especially wondering about Double Agent's odd case where the PS2/Wii version was more faithful to previous games, whereas the PS3/360 version was more experimental, yet also more marketed.
It was PS2/Xbox/GameCube because that was the 6th gen (and superior) version. It never released for Wii.
@@ashleythomas4112 It sure did, with crap motion controls included. Though I didn't know about the original Xbox and Gamecube versions.
@@forklauncher Damn, it did release for Wii, didn't know that. I thought it was "only" (lol) released for 6 different systems. Mental to think it came out on 7 different systems and was two quite different games as well.
Now, I'm just imagining Matt coming home to Mama McMuscles from school:
"Mom, I'm home! What an amaz--"
"ACTIVISION! FUCK 'EM!"
Merry Christmas btw! 🤘😁
This one will be great, Happy Christmas Matt, hope you're having a great one :)
Merry Christmas Matt!
honestly, the concept of 6 films in one game feels like high risk, high reward. in concept or as a fan, it could come off as fun and engaging, but threading all those missions is just a mess. If only they did more to make each level feel different, it could’ve possibly been ok.
Merry Christmas, Matt
00:37 Those are the best reflexes I've ever seen, damn!
Thank you for posting on Christmas ❤️🎄
Merry Christmas and great video
Merry xmas, matt!
"Die Another Day" has its moments, and I liked "James Bond, Jr."
I loved the 007 games & movies when I was a kid so much. I'm really hoping this new 007 game isn't just a hitman game with James Bond skin.
Posting videos for the Holiday? Thank you for the present.
Activision and EA working together?
That's not a deal with the Devil, is the Devil making a Deal with his long lost Twin
The twin being Superdevil, who has a jar of magic marmalade that induces fornication.
Merry christmas, Matt! And happy new year
New video on Christmas Day? Hell Yeah Brother!!!
I would love to see a Wha Happun on Valkyria Revolution if there is enough info on it out there, because oh boy. Enjoying the videos as always!
You never shake a martini martinis are always stirred, shaking a martini ruins the integrity of the drink and very heavily waters it down. The only reason I can think that Bond would order that as often as he does is because its some type of MI6 code or something
Merry Christmas Matt.
Merry Christmas matt I love the present
LOVE your stuff man but I hope you don't burn out with the pace of your content output. Cheers friends.
Still can't help but feel that naughty dog or insomniac would make a great bond game
Never played Legends, but the idea of a game where I can have a fist fight with Benicio Del Toro and then set Robert Davi on fire is very intriguing.
Blood Stone was a shame. It was a really fun game that ended on a cliffhanger.
McMuscles, Matt McMuscles. Merry Xmas
Love your videos.
I was one of the last people in the games multiplayer, man what a sad way to go for the franchise.
thanks for the christmas present matt :D