no it wouldn't, because he missed a crucial part of it. before you starve to death, you pass out. so you would never reach the point he's describing, as once your bloodsugars reach too low a point, it doesn't matter how much focus, adrenaline or hope you have, you've run out of gas. what gavin is suggesting is you driving a car uphill with a few grams of gas and a prayer. how well would that work?
He's probably not talking about the exact point where you are dying but rather referring to the moment where you become to weak to crawl anymore, where you essentially give up and suggests that you can prolong your struggle a bit longer and thus prolong your life in the process.
Doesn't your system shut down when close to starvation? I heard people on hunger strike often went blind before death so if you were 30 seconds from dying, chances are you wouldn't have the strength to be able to crawl through the desert or even see the sandwich if someone held it in front of you.
RHCP1997 how it works is that the only parts of yourself your body actively considers necessary are your heart, brain and lungs. it will do everything in its power to keep them functional. that's why when you're freezing, your lips and hands turn blue, your body is sacrificing them to feed blood to you brain. what this means is that the longer you go without food, the less of your body is actually working, since you're essentially killing less important pieces to keep your brain alive. death is also a fairly nebulous thing, it's not like a video game where you're either livinbor dead, you may seem dead yet still be completely alive and capable of recovery. so "30 seconds until death" could mean nearly anything. so, in the situation gavin's describing, you've starved so much that you can't walk and yet somehow haven't run dry on water yet, what would happen is that your body wouldn't be able to eat, because your muscles would be dying as their food was taken and fed to the brain, your stomach would be shrunken and incapable of producing acid or digesting, and you'd be randomly passing out and losing your senses. you wouldn't have the presence of mind to even notice if there was a person in front of you, because your brain takes thousands of calories just to function, and your only conscious thought would probably be regret over your own impending doom and possibly terror of the grave. so, uh, no. no you couldn't stave off death with a nibble and i'd suggest you don't try. you need about 20,000 calories for a reason.
@@Yal_Rathol Uh, what? 20'000 is so so off. The averaging male and female, the body only needs 2'000 calories to survive. The brain itself needs around 600, not 'thousands'. And it really depends on the scenario. Someone who has slowly starved for a period of time could get extremely emaciated with muscle wastage and be unable to walk around properly. Someone who has very quickly starved may not look emaciated and have experienced muscle wastage even if their underweight. Starving to death isn't even a real mechanism of death, although it is a cause. When look at how anorexics die, most of them experience sudden cardiac death so while adrenaline/putting a sandwich in front of them won't give them extra time, they may also be able to ambulate normally before the event. The other way is hypoglycemia, in which in the extreme end can cause seizures, put someone in a coma and eventually their heart will just stop. If they're in the coma part then I guess it's true they aren't going to be crawling around.
Gavin is not necessarily wrong in this, his scenario is just absurd. Having a will to live is arguably the most important tool in a survival situation. If you have just given up and accepted death, no doubt you'll die. However, if you are constantly fighting off death than you will be able to put your body through the hardest and most enduring challenges.
Usually at the point of starvation, it's death to disease is what kills you. Your immune system is so damaged it cannot fend off the germs we regularly destroy. But it is possible to still die from organ failure before disease. This is when the organs are shutting down and not working right. The most common fate for one who is starving is a heart attack. If you are on the brink of death you pass out before you die as well. So Gavin actually proposes a good question if he asks- if you are shown a sandwich (or some type of food) 30 seconds before you pass out, will you be able to remain awake? I truly don't know the answer to that, my guess is a yes
no, because you pass out from lack of energy, not some process. it's like asking "if i've got thirty seconds of battery left on my phone, will a prayer extend that to sixty seconds?"
Yal Rathol well i still don't know. Starvation is a big mental thing as well. When you are in that situation depression can hit hard pretty quick, causing you to give up. There's also been cases like Gandhi's hunger strikes where he went incredible lengths without eating, even when he was skinny to begin the strike. The point is that it's more complicated than just a set time like a battery, so if you see food then maybe you can win the mental battle long enough to survive.
***** the longest gandhi went was 3 weeks, which is right on the edge of safety. on average, the longest your body can go without is the rule of three, 3 minutes without air, 3 days without water, 3 weeks without food. so gandhi was on the brink, but hadn't reached starvation level yet. also, he was probably taken care of the whole time by his supporters, meaning he used less energy. fighting to survive in a desert, on your own, after the 3 week period? your brain is so low on fuel that it simply can't anymore, and even if it could your body can't handle food in its current state. without medical feeding via IV, you're fucked. so yeah, it's less like a battery and more like a car. sure, the car might work with no fuel, but it isn't going anywhere, and what gavin is suggesting is getting a car with a dying battery, a few grams of gas and two deflating tires up a hill without any help but a prayer.
Funny enough they asked a scientist(not sure what field) this same question on a live show and she did say that hypothetically it could keep you alive because the brain is a powerful thing.
People actually did an experiment like this with drowning dogs. Apparently, if the dog has hope of rescue, they will go on for longer before giving up and drowning.
I don't know why, but just the small things after watching this a few times, Jack's reaction to "survive on hope" at 0:49 is just so funny. I don't know why, it's just such a subtle reaction that just makes it so funny.
For those interested in the logistics of starvation the body eats itself and eventually it eats something vital and you lose its function and that kills you. Seeing a sandwich won’t reverse that problem, and the body will still need some fuel to get itself to the sandwich so it will continue to eat itself even if it knows food is imminent
Well, when you starve, you don't go from conscious to dead. Your body is forced to shut down partially, and you become is a type of coma, you might wake up here and there, but you'll be asleep. Its your bodies way of slowing down the starvation process. You don't use as many calories when you're asleep, your heart slows down, your breathing slows, and your body temperature drops.so if someone found you starving in a desert, you'd most likely be so out of it you wouldn't be able to eat.
I love how the rest of RT laughs at people like Gavin and Chris for the information they think is false. Even though Chris' claim about your stomach shrinking is true. The RT guys should probably do their research.
Yeah it's 100% true and Gavin's idea is how people who are almost staved to death survive. That's what killed a lot of Holocaust survivors, they eat too much and died. The ones that lived eat small amounts at a time.
Chris and gavin bit have someone right points : gavins is adrenaline not hope Chris is right the stomach does shrink but u would pass out before u die, hence the sandwich wouldn't work since u r unconscious
if you're 30 seconds from dying of starvation you're unconscious. Starvation victims usually go catatonic before they die because they've run out of fuel to keep going, so this whole scenario wouldn't happen. XD
right, but producing adrenaline requires calories. you know, those things you get from food? if you're starving, it doesn't matter how much will you have, the only solution is nutrients, and a lot of them.
How does adrenaline keep you alive during a plane crash? Does it somehow prevent your body from being torn apart as you crash into the ground at 500mph?
The thing is that might work a little bit but after the human body goes through fat reserves it eats into muscle. After that what other parts of the body have protine molecules. It would eat those then there wpuld be nothing left
So, interestingly, you will stay alive for a little while after the point of no return. At some point your stomach is not able to even digest anything anymore it's so shriveled up and damaged by starvation. That is why people who are starving need to be fed easy to digest things like soups. So if someone gave you a sandwich 30 seconds before death, maybe you could struggle on for another hour or so with pure willpower now that you have some hope, but you're still going to die.
Psa your stomach Doesn’t ever shrink unless you have surgery or something like that to make it smaller not even starvation will make your stomach shrink 😂😂😂😂😂
2:59 It's absolutely a stupid hypothetical question Burnie. It shows a clear lack of understanding of basic biology. When you're at that point of starvation your body has already started to consume your vital inner organs for sustenance. There absolutely is a point of no return for solid food, and what Gavin is proposing is well beyond that point. It's a stupid funny moment, and should not be taken seriously in ANY way, shape, or form.
actually he is sorta right if you saw a sandwich and you had hope you would live a little bit longer because the hope to live when your on the edge of death would outshine anything that's why some people turn to cannibalism when in a survival situation but this would not last very long you would only live for like 10 more seconds if you were lucky
"I'm gona stave off death with a nibble."
That has got to be one of my favorite parts of any rtaa..
Episode IV: A Food Hope
Episode V: The Starvation Strikes Back
Episode VI: Return of the Sandwich
Yasha Breslove oh for fucks sake XD
+Yasha Breslove Episode VII: The Hope Awakens
Episode I: The Phantom Sandwich
Episode II: Attack of the Starvation
Episode III: Revenge of the Man With Sandwiches
Episode VIII: The Last Sandwich
Adam Lawrence Hope One and The Last Sandwich
Gavin: Blue Lantern
Gavin: pubert lantern
It actually makes sense. Gavin always has the right idea but can't say it. Not hope, but adrenalin would keep you alive.
no it wouldn't, because he missed a crucial part of it. before you starve to death, you pass out. so you would never reach the point he's describing, as once your bloodsugars reach too low a point, it doesn't matter how much focus, adrenaline or hope you have, you've run out of gas.
what gavin is suggesting is you driving a car uphill with a few grams of gas and a prayer. how well would that work?
What he said 👆
He's probably not talking about the exact point where you are dying but rather referring to the moment where you become to weak to crawl anymore, where you essentially give up and suggests that you can prolong your struggle a bit longer and thus prolong your life in the process.
@@tastaturensohn he fucking said 30 seconds before starving to death. 30 fucking seconds
My god you children are toxic.
Gavin brain is truly a Wonderland.
I absolutely love how Gus says the word "sandwich" xD
Doesn't your system shut down when close to starvation? I heard people on hunger strike often went blind before death so if you were 30 seconds from dying, chances are you wouldn't have the strength to be able to crawl through the desert or even see the sandwich if someone held it in front of you.
RHCP1997 how it works is that the only parts of yourself your body actively considers necessary are your heart, brain and lungs. it will do everything in its power to keep them functional. that's why when you're freezing, your lips and hands turn blue, your body is sacrificing them to feed blood to you brain.
what this means is that the longer you go without food, the less of your body is actually working, since you're essentially killing less important pieces to keep your brain alive. death is also a fairly nebulous thing, it's not like a video game where you're either livinbor dead, you may seem dead yet still be completely alive and capable of recovery. so "30 seconds until death" could mean nearly anything.
so, in the situation gavin's describing, you've starved so much that you can't walk and yet somehow haven't run dry on water yet, what would happen is that your body wouldn't be able to eat, because your muscles would be dying as their food was taken and fed to the brain, your stomach would be shrunken and incapable of producing acid or digesting, and you'd be randomly passing out and losing your senses. you wouldn't have the presence of mind to even notice if there was a person in front of you, because your brain takes thousands of calories just to function, and your only conscious thought would probably be regret over your own impending doom and possibly terror of the grave.
so, uh, no. no you couldn't stave off death with a nibble and i'd suggest you don't try. you need about 20,000 calories for a reason.
@@Yal_Rathol Uh, what? 20'000 is so so off. The averaging male and female, the body only needs 2'000 calories to survive. The brain itself needs around 600, not 'thousands'.
And it really depends on the scenario. Someone who has slowly starved for a period of time could get extremely emaciated with muscle wastage and be unable to walk around properly. Someone who has very quickly starved may not look emaciated and have experienced muscle wastage even if their underweight. Starving to death isn't even a real mechanism of death, although it is a cause. When look at how anorexics die, most of them experience sudden cardiac death so while adrenaline/putting a sandwich in front of them won't give them extra time, they may also be able to ambulate normally before the event. The other way is hypoglycemia, in which in the extreme end can cause seizures, put someone in a coma and eventually their heart will just stop. If they're in the coma part then I guess it's true they aren't going to be crawling around.
Gavin is not necessarily wrong in this, his scenario is just absurd. Having a will to live is arguably the most important tool in a survival situation. If you have just given up and accepted death, no doubt you'll die. However, if you are constantly fighting off death than you will be able to put your body through the hardest and most enduring challenges.
Your edits are awesome! Well done :)
Usually at the point of starvation, it's death to disease is what kills you. Your immune system is so damaged it cannot fend off the germs we regularly destroy. But it is possible to still die from organ failure before disease. This is when the organs are shutting down and not working right. The most common fate for one who is starving is a heart attack. If you are on the brink of death you pass out before you die as well. So Gavin actually proposes a good question if he asks- if you are shown a sandwich (or some type of food) 30 seconds before you pass out, will you be able to remain awake? I truly don't know the answer to that, my guess is a yes
no, because you pass out from lack of energy, not some process. it's like asking "if i've got thirty seconds of battery left on my phone, will a prayer extend that to sixty seconds?"
Yal Rathol well i still don't know. Starvation is a big mental thing as well. When you are in that situation depression can hit hard pretty quick, causing you to give up. There's also been cases like Gandhi's hunger strikes where he went incredible lengths without eating, even when he was skinny to begin the strike. The point is that it's more complicated than just a set time like a battery, so if you see food then maybe you can win the mental battle long enough to survive.
***** the longest gandhi went was 3 weeks, which is right on the edge of safety. on average, the longest your body can go without is the rule of three, 3 minutes without air, 3 days without water, 3 weeks without food.
so gandhi was on the brink, but hadn't reached starvation level yet. also, he was probably taken care of the whole time by his supporters, meaning he used less energy.
fighting to survive in a desert, on your own, after the 3 week period? your brain is so low on fuel that it simply can't anymore, and even if it could your body can't handle food in its current state. without medical feeding via IV, you're fucked.
so yeah, it's less like a battery and more like a car. sure, the car might work with no fuel, but it isn't going anywhere, and what gavin is suggesting is getting a car with a dying battery, a few grams of gas and two deflating tires up a hill without any help but a prayer.
Funny enough they asked a scientist(not sure what field) this same question on a live show and she did say that hypothetically it could keep you alive because the brain is a powerful thing.
0:40 Gus almost completely lost it.
People actually did an experiment like this with drowning dogs. Apparently, if the dog has hope of rescue, they will go on for longer before giving up and drowning.
Being so starved that you would die either way must suck
I don't know why, but just the small things after watching this a few times, Jack's reaction to "survive on hope" at 0:49 is just so funny. I don't know why, it's just such a subtle reaction that just makes it so funny.
For those interested in the logistics of starvation the body eats itself and eventually it eats something vital and you lose its function and that kills you. Seeing a sandwich won’t reverse that problem, and the body will still need some fuel to get itself to the sandwich so it will continue to eat itself even if it knows food is imminent
A better question is “Does the absence of hope make one go unconscious faster due to malnutrition.”
Well, when you starve, you don't go from conscious to dead. Your body is forced to shut down partially, and you become is a type of coma, you might wake up here and there, but you'll be asleep. Its your bodies way of slowing down the starvation process. You don't use as many calories when you're asleep, your heart slows down, your breathing slows, and your body temperature drops.so if someone found you starving in a desert, you'd most likely be so out of it you wouldn't be able to eat.
0:44
Burnie wondering how the fuck he ended up hiring Gavin 😂😂😂 I love these guys
Gavin can survive on Determination alone confirmed.
I love how the rest of RT laughs at people like Gavin and Chris for the information they think is false. Even though Chris' claim about your stomach shrinking is true. The RT guys should probably do their research.
Yeah it's 100% true and Gavin's idea is how people who are almost staved to death survive. That's what killed a lot of Holocaust survivors, they eat too much and died. The ones that lived eat small amounts at a time.
@@OmegaBlue-gb5bu Their stomachs exploded?
If gavin wasn't on TH-cam I would die from depression
Well if someone pushes you out of a plane you can just run down a hill 🙄
Chris and gavin bit have someone right points : gavins is adrenaline not hope
Chris is right the stomach does shrink but u would pass out before u die, hence the sandwich wouldn't work since u r unconscious
if you're 30 seconds from dying of starvation you're unconscious. Starvation victims usually go catatonic before they die because they've run out of fuel to keep going, so this whole scenario wouldn't happen. XD
Actually adrenaline has kept people alive from plane crashes.
Yes, but not from starvation, like gus(I think) said he would use the same if not more energy trying to get to the sandwich.
right, but producing adrenaline requires calories. you know, those things you get from food? if you're starving, it doesn't matter how much will you have, the only solution is nutrients, and a lot of them.
How does adrenaline keep you alive during a plane crash? Does it somehow prevent your body from being torn apart as you crash into the ground at 500mph?
Hope cam keep you alive, but you have to use the Crystal Method to keep hope alive.
this is actually an interesting question
Was that really a hope floats reference.
Which podcast is this?
Read the description
Nice work!
when you see food i makes you hungrier
The thing is that might work a little bit but after the human body goes through fat reserves it eats into muscle. After that what other parts of the body have protine molecules. It would eat those then there wpuld be nothing left
Jacks face is all you need see for this
Look at jack he's fucking dying from one of Gavin's crazy ass idea
Jack is wanting none of this.
Goddamn it, Gavin.
0:44 Burnie mad dogging Gavin 😂
Why aren't you hired by RT yet?
DanganRonpa in a nutshell
Gavin and Chris combination are the best for Rita
But would he eat the sandwich if the bread was wet?
Desert, SANDwiches. is that a coincidence ???
Gavin asks really intellectual questions he just words them kinda weird.
So, interestingly, you will stay alive for a little while after the point of no return. At some point your stomach is not able to even digest anything anymore it's so shriveled up and damaged by starvation. That is why people who are starving need to be fed easy to digest things like soups.
So if someone gave you a sandwich 30 seconds before death, maybe you could struggle on for another hour or so with pure willpower now that you have some hope, but you're still going to die.
Ok what if they had soup to give you? 🤔
Chris was right
he'd probably dehydrate first
Friend: Have you ever had Ethiopian food?
Me: No.
Friend: Well neither have they.
Love Traps You In A Bookshelf.
Psa your stomach Doesn’t ever shrink unless you have surgery or something like that to make it smaller not even starvation will make your stomach shrink 😂😂😂😂😂
I love the pseudo intellectuals in the comments trying to dissect a hypothetical question.
Jeez burnie really does fluctuate with weight
Ratana I mean
2:59 It's absolutely a stupid hypothetical question Burnie. It shows a clear lack of understanding of basic biology. When you're at that point of starvation your body has already started to consume your vital inner organs for sustenance. There absolutely is a point of no return for solid food, and what Gavin is proposing is well beyond that point.
It's a stupid funny moment, and should not be taken seriously in ANY way, shape, or form.
Actually adrenaline would kill u faster cuz u burn more calories but the hope thing is dumb, ud pass out before u actually doe of starvation
they saw danganronpa
I was about to make a comment about that. Why u steal my thunder..
I immediately thought of danganronpa when Gavin said hope
Rtaa
Chris is hilarious because he is stupid but he tries to be smart.
actually he is sorta right if you saw a sandwich and you had hope you would live a little bit longer because the hope to live when your on the edge of death would outshine anything that's why some people turn to cannibalism when in a survival situation but this would not last very long you would only live for like 10 more seconds if you were lucky
I figured out why Gavin looks dumber in the RTAA's, they re-order the conversation. He sounds (slightly) more sane here.