Glue It Like a Pro: My Top Adhesive Picks for Junk Journaling with Examples
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- Are you a junk journal beginner and totally overwhelmed by the choices of adhesives and not sure which adhesive to use for what? Do you have journal pages that you feel you messed up because you can see the glue even after it’s dry or pages that are warped because of the glue you chose to use? Then this video is for you! Stick to these adhesives and never be frustrated with your results again.
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Thank you Barbara for making this video. My wife was the viewer who emailed you about this question. She is beaming with joy knowing someone like you was willing to help someone like her. She even got me interested in your videos. ❤❤ Much love. ❤❤ Thank you for taking the time to reply and make a video helping her and so many others. Muah muah
Thanks so much for your kind words! So happy Thai was helpful! ☺️❤️
I also remember you mention several times that you would use gluestick for adhering napkins and tissue apers (instead of a decoupage medium). I find this tip of yours really helpful because i enjoy the texture of a napkin adhered this way and it's less messy than fussing with a brush and a liquid glue
I wish I had this video when I first started my junk journal journey! I made so many wrong decisions about the type of glue to use out of ignorance! As I look back through my old journals, I can see first hand what happens over time! New journalers- take notes, this is so important! Thank you Barbara!😊
It always surprises me to see so many using glue sticks as they are known to not last over time (I've had great luck with Scotch brand adhesives in general, so maybe their glue sticks are superior to most out there). I came from a scrapbooking background so I'm a bit more cognizant of things that will last over time and are acid-free and such.
Bearly art glue is just like art glitter glue but you don’t have the problem with freezing in the winter!!! Thank you for sharing your experience!!!
This was super useful. I never match up the right glue with the right product and it leaves my projects looking amateurish. This takes away a lot of the mystery and guesswork! I have written down notes in my crafting journal for ease of reference.
Glad it was helpful! 😊
Thanks so much for this video! Not new to junk journaling, but hold the title of “world’s worst glue applier”.
I took notes and now know why I see you applying matte medium right on your page-no shine. I need to use it more.
I also loved this comment, “Diva vellum”!!!😂😜
Thank you SO much Barbara, a great video. I often make mistakes by using the wrong glue. I have to work on my projects with a low budget, and wish some glues weren't so expensive!! I have previously used Beacon's Fabri-Tac, which was great. When it ran out, I used the bottle to squeeze the cheap UHU glue, that I buy in the UK (where I live), from Pound land. They've reduced the UHU tubes however, for the same price, but I do find it is still cheaper than most glues, and works really well. I haven't been able to work since 2015, due to health issues (I'm 63), so make crafts to a very tight budget. But I love all the glues you've mentioned, and buy them every few months when I've been able to save up for them. I work hours at home, making journals, but only manage to sell them on eBay, for about £10 each journal. I've tried Etsy, but can't afford their monthly fee now. I wish I could sell for more because my annual disability income, is a mere £7,000 a year. I'd love to have my own business, but it's impossible. I rent a tiny council flat, and have to use my small lounge to do my arts and crafts, so it's always a mess!!! But I never want to stop creating. I love your tutorials, you are incredibly talented. Thank you for sharing your talent with us 😊😊❤ xx
Hi Valerie! I’m sorry about all the hardships you are facing and I love your spirit of not giving up on crafting. Have a look at the channel Liz The Paper Project. She sells journals on consignment. Here is one of her videos: th-cam.com/video/A2rvFsTEI6g/w-d-xo.html You should contact her to see how it works. You really should be getting more for your works of art! ❤️
This is great Barbara. I'm not a beginner in general but I haven't paid enough attention to what glue works for what. I have about 7 kinds from cheap Elmers to Art Glitter and Fabrictac. This will help me use the right glue at the right time. Thanks!
Game changer for the art glitter glue for me....put a foam tape dot on the side of your bottle (leave backing on one side). Then you poke your needle in the foam while using it.
Thanks for the tip’ ❤️
This is helpful, thanks, Barbara! I thought I was the only one who didn't like Mod Podge. Have you ever used Yes paste? I have a jar (based on recommendations by another junk journal artist), but I haven't used it yet. It scares me, LOL
Thanks! I have never used Yes paste, but I know it’s quite popular. Do some tests on scraps 😃❤️
Thank you for sharing your favs and explaining about how each effects our projects. 💜
Barbara, glue is so important. A preference for sure! I like tombow glue as well.💜💜💜
I really can't add any other glues, because you've included my faves.😉 I will say that I'm a hot mess most of the time, my hands don't like to work well & I drop things or get shaky. I struggle to get things on straight the first shot.🙄
'Art Glitter Glue' is great! I love it...but, there is little to no wiggle room. You'd better be happy with where it lands, 'cause that's where it's staying, if you don't want a real mess. It also dries very fast, which is awesome when you lack patience. Definitely get the fine tip. You'll be glad you did, & a little goes a long way.💗 I love '3 in 1' too! It does have some wiggle room, grabs quickly however & takes a little while to fully cure. But, it dries enough to keep moving along. And, it doesn't take much either. Excellent sticking power.💪 Collall is very expensive in the US. So, I haven't tried it, but would like to. And then there's 'Liquitex Matte Gel Medium'💗🤩💗...It's a little jar of magic.💖 If you love matte, a smooth finish, combined with virtually no brush strokes... this is what you want! It's well worth the price.👍 I use the liquid version as well, as a sealer. It's great too, very matte. But, the gel is amazing! I have loads of glues & mediums. But, these are my top 3. I've not had a great experience with glue sticks either. UHU is great for it's "sticking power". But, mine is always a mushy, gloopy mess. It gets hot & humid here in Central California...maybe that's why. I like Scotch as too. Less messy & sticks well. I just don't use sticks much, though. And, I'm a disaster with double-sided tape. NO wiggle room...AT ALL. lol!! Though it definitely is useful, & necessary, when coping with a "diva".😁 I use the 1/8" for vellum, glassine...the sheer stuff. You can hardly see it at all.😏
Thanks, Barbara! Great tips.💗 Love and blessings, Tracy.💙💙💙
Thanks so much for sharing your experience as well, Tracy! ❤️
This was so helpful. I have my favorites. Love the Art Glitter Glue. And the Fabri-fix glue. So far I haven’t been gluing anything that warps (how has that happened? Lol).. but it feels good to have a heads up before I ruin something I’ve worked on. So thank you (again) 💗💞💗
Hi Barbara! - thanks for creating this. I use the Art Glitter Glue - love it. Another favorite of mine is Elmer's Craft Bond, fast drying. The ECB does dry with a shine, but works great on all materials.
in the book restoration course you learn about gluing during 1 annual report….. A complex subject, I agree with you. Besides what you show here I also use a lot of starch that I cook with potato flour.
Thank you, Barbara! Very helpful!😍
Thank you for this video. I’m happy to see I’m not the only one with many different glues! I have Art Glitter glue but it’s too finicky for me so now I use Bearly Art glue. I’ve recently purchased bookbinders glue to use when glueing fabric to chipboard for covers. I haven’t tried it yet so I’m not sure how that will work. As for glue sticks, I mostly use them to “tack” something that I will sew. Other than that they sit in my glue basket.
Thank You so much, it helped clear some stuff up. I use glue stick to temporarily hold for sewing, and just an FYI creative memories has a tape runner that is archival and for velum. I know cause I am a consultant and a scrapbooker as well, I am new to this junk journaling which I am finding extremely satisfying. again thank You
Yes, this is very helpful. TFS🤗
This is brilliant. So informative. I need to rewatch and make notes! Id love to be able to get a cost effective Art Glitter glue here in Australia
What a helpful video! Thank you! I buy 3-in-1 glue eight bottles at a time! I’ve been using it for 20 years, and it’s the only liquid glue I use in mini albums. I’m new to JJs and invested in lots of mod podge but when it’s gone I’m not replacing it. I bought the Liquitex and it’s everything you said it was. Question for the community: did any one have an issue with Bearly Art glue going bad and smelling like rotten eggs? What a waste of money. I had bottles and refills and extra pins and tips. Ugh. The odor clung to all my cards and I had to trash those too. I’d love to hear if anyone else had that problem. Fantastic video!! ❤❤
Thanks! What an experience with Bearly Art glue UGH! ❤️
This was a great video. I learned something so now I can apply it to my journals. Thank you much.
Very Very Helpful!!!!! I appreciate you sharing your knowledge so we don’t waste our money!! You were very informative and gave amazing tips and demonstrations. Thank you for taking the time to help me and also the community. Thank you!
I'll be referring to this video alot! Thanks for the examples also.
I'm not a junk journal beginner, but I still found this helpful! Thank you, Barbara!
Thank you from a newbie for the much needed info! ❤️
Great info, thanks. Part of the reason I started crinkling my paper was so the glue wouldn’t show through. It’s become a signature style for me. When I started paper crafting, it was basically PVA or Tacky glue. I have used gel mediums, but sometimes that adds bulk and weight. When I started using Fabritac, that was game changer for adhering laces, trims and such. My next investment will be Art Glitter/Barely Art. This video is being saved for future reference, again, thanks for info.
Thank you very much for sharing this information. The Creations brand might be available in Australia at a fabric and craft store - line Spotlight. I will try to look next time I am in my local store. Lots of Love, Light and Laughter!
Great, comprehensive video on glue/adhesives. I personally love things made by Scotch (3M). I found the Scotch Quick-Dry Adhesive (rebranded to Scotch Tacky Glue or Create, I believe) when scrapbooking over a decade ago and love it still. I use it to glue paper, wood, plastic, small metals, etc...it's a fantastic all-around glue. I stopped crafting for years and the half-filled bottle of glue still worked perfectly. I also have their ATG (Advanced Tape Glider) which uses the double-sided tape that works really well (the tape glider can be a bit finicky to figure out, but it works well once you get the hang of it). I know people go crazy over the Art Glitter Glue, but I'm curious how it compares to the Scotch glue I've used as the Scotch glue might be less expensive to use. I heard the Scotch glue stick is also fantastic...but I'm with you on glue sticks as I bought a ton of the Elmer's glue sticks and they all dried out when I stopped crafting for a while.
Thank you Barbara this was very helpful you’re the best. 💕🌸
Thank you . Very informative. Like the examples and explanations. Have a great day
Baby girl, thank you!! I learned a lot this afternoon, not the least of which is why my Art Glitter Glue just suddenly got runny! I mean, really watery! Since it's kinda useless now can you think of any way I might fix it? Maybe something I could add? ...talc? ...corn starch? Like, just a tiny pinch? Very frustrating! Thanks for sharing your knowledge. Love you, angel, MomK 🤗❤️🌵❤️🤗
I've heard it reacts to temperature. I'll be interested in Barbara's answer.
I’m happy this was helpful! Unfortunately I don’t know how to save runny Art Glitter Glue. Couldn’t find anything online either 😔
@49dragonflies I'll mess with it in small batches, keep track of measurements, and let you know if I come up with anything worthwhile. Fingers crossed!
Thank you Barbara. I was a card maker for 20+ years before I started Junk Journaling & use all the glues you use for much the same things. I discovered the Tombow Mono glue last year & it is a big chunky glue that really sticks! I love seeing what other crafters use.💜
Thank you!
Very interesting video. Thank you for sharing your favorite glues! I love that you gave specific reasons for using each one and not just give the names of glue. I think this could be very helpful!
Thanks Barbara for sharing about the various glues. As always, your unique way of explaining helped us to understand the differences between each one.
Hey, Barbara!
I just wanted to order the Liquitex matte medium on Amazon, but... all of a sudden I got a lil bit scared & confused... 🤯 I saw too many options! What is a GEL MEDIUM?! And HEAVY GEL... 😳 ??? Does it really make a different, or are those just different names for basically the same product, part of a smart marketing... 😂 ?! Anyhow, many thanks in advance and have a wonderful weekend!
(Your video is SUPER helpful! My own personal adhesive encyclopedia... 🧐💕 Haha!!!)
You're the b-e-s-t!!!
XOXO, Liat
P.S.-
Evidently, you're not the only crazy person, who's awake at 04:00am, and crafting in the middle of the night... 😜
Hey sweetie, I understand the confusion. Yes, there are big differences in the products! Pls see the link under this video to see the one I use. I hope you got some more sleep! ❤️☺️
All great information and exactly the things I've discovered over the years. I think we all have a love/hate relationship with glue sticks! So easy to take with you and not so great at adhering.
Barbara: an excellent informative video. Thx Carol from California
I had years of frustration and trial and error🙈. My favourites are collal decanted into precision tip bottles and empty 3in 1 bottles for different jobs (as my main glue) the 3 in 1, matt medium, cosmic shimmer acrylic (quick grab), zig glue pens for tiny of filigree die cuts, hit glue (but only since I got the right gun) pritt stick for master boards and for making pastes pva or clear glue. WOW, just realised how many we all use 😄. Art glitter glue seems high maintenance😄 very temperamental. That tip is cool though. Yes matt gel is magical! I find 3 in 1 thicker than collal and similar to silicone gel glue. Maybe different amounts of the same ingredients. Warping is my nemesis, so many people like Anita's tacky which I can't get away with. Oh yes, double sided tape lol vellum IS a diva 🙊. I have super skinny tape too. We really do find our happy glue and although it's very personal you're right, cheap doesn't save money in the long term. Excellent and comprehensive video😁. Tfs and have a great day 💖💖💖
Thanks so much sweetie! Also, thanks for sharing your faves! ❤️😊
Hi Barbara! Thank you for the video i loved it and i have a suggestion for you for the shiny glues. You may use an old translucent makeup powder or a white one and tap it on it where the parts you would see through the shine. You should do it before it dries. I hope i was able to describe how to do it 🙈 I usually do it when i use double sided tape and shiny glues if i use a lace or so. I also use an old make up brush with the powder it makes it easier 🥰
Thank you! Very helpful! ❤️
Very interesting… I also loved the tombow glue stick! I bought a twin pack at an fabric store.. It was one of the few glues you can use to hold fabric pieces together while sewing or keeping edges from lifting while you are doing intricate machine embroidery which does not effect the needle and bobbin mechanism like all other glues do! It holds perfectly and is not sticky…
Thanks for a great video
I have found the same issue with the Cococina glue stick - our springs and summers are warm and humid and it just gets goopy and sticky. It does stick things down reasonably well so I just keep one around for traveling. I've tried the Uhu glue stuck as well, it's less messy but I'm not sure it sticks as well. I do prefer a gel medium for most things, and I have both a regular/thin body and a heavy body that's good for thicker papers. Another one I love is Yes Paste, it's a thick paste in a jar that you can spread with pallet knife (or your fingers), and it holds everything I've thrown at it (not sure if it's available for shipping to Europe).
I have the glitter glue on my list to try, cause the ability to do a nice thin line with the metal tip is important!
Another TH-camr I watch uses the coccoina glue stick or whatever it’s called. She says it’s a paste glue, so it’s not your climate making it that way. She said she also buys it in a tub and uses a spatula for it. It’s the same texture in the tub and the stick, just a different presentation. She uses it to cover pocket size bibles with fabric and layering the fabric pieces on the cover.
Thanks for the info. I have the tub with the little brush as well..
A great overview. The only 'accident' I have had that almost ruined a cover was to use the 3 in 1 glue on a thin ribbon, it bled through the ribbon leaving a wet hard looking spot. I then had to cover the ribbon with a piece of lace to hide the oops! (which made it look better...a happy accident! The same happens with thin fabric, it will soak through leaving a hard dark spot. Otherwise I like the glue. Hugs from MN.
While I strongly believe that we all have to try different adhesives and learn what works best for ourselves (personal preference and climate has such a big impact), I really appreciate that you share your experience with us, it can help us avoid some of the most annoying mishaps!
And with that said I still want to leave a recommendation for a real good glue if you are in a country with access to Panduro (Sweden, Denmark, Norway, Germany, Netherlands and Belgium I think); their quick drying glue is my favourite adhesive for almost all types of paper and also works on fabric. I put it in a small bottle with a metal tip and while I’ve never tried ArtGlitter glue it sounds like it has very similar qualities. (Just make sure it’s the quick drying version, the other one is not that great). Their glue stick is also one of the best I’ve tried (there are certain things where I still prefer glue sticks over a liquid adhesive).
Thanks for sharing! ❤️ Never heard of that one.
Great info
This video it is very helpful. I’m very new to journal making and never knew the glue could make such a big difference. Thank you for sharing your knowledge and your art. HUGS
Liebe Barbara, vielen vielen Dank für dieses wirklich hilfreiche und nützliche Video. Großartig erklärt und gezeigt.
Even though I have been making journals for two or three years I can't remember which I still appreciated this very much because I struggle with glues. I have been using the print glue stick and with Summer coming it will be a terrible problem because it gets so soft here in New Mexico. I do like PVA glue when it's used with a brush for larger areas I'm happy to find out about the three-in-one or the collall
Hello Love 💕 I just love you. Yes you are a beautiful creative artist. Thank you for all your very wonderful & great knowledge & information. ❤ God bless you for all your help.
Awww thank you Barbara. Great video. I too don’t have much luck with glue sticks. My favorite is definitely Art Glitter Glue and Fabri-Fix.
You can always turn a glue stick on its edge, I often use one this way. Of course, eventually, it loses its edge! 😏
I've seen you use the Liquitex matte gel medium and am curious about using that now that I'm a bit more interested in collaging. However, I've got to use up my 2 big bottles of (matte and shiny) Mod Podge first. LOL
Love Glue! Love your take and of course I’m a huge fan of Art Glitter. (Used to work there 😇). Tip for you, when you want to use sticky tape or a stick glue and it needs to be more permanent, add a thin line of AG glue to the edges and you are home free! Thanks for the great ideas, gotta get me some 3in1 now to add to my arsenal.
Thanks for the tip! ❤️
I use liquatex Matt Gell after I started watching you. It’s the best. I also use some tacky glue which I found here in the UK as well as glue sticks and double sided tape. I think you kind of need to work out what works best for the job your doing. But I definitely recommend spending the money on the Matt Gel
Thank you for discussing types of glue 💕
I once read somewhere that some people cannot get yeast to rise due to genetics or hormones and I think I am that way with glue sometimes 😆 Stuff that should work a certain way just doesn't work at all for me (some glues just won't dry ever and just stay super tacky) and other glues that most people hate work just fine for me 🤣 My fave is just plain old Pritt Bastelkleber (NOT the Alleskleber; that one did not work for me). This is a great video and I just ordered the Collal glue to give it a try. Thank you!!!
I hope it works for you! ❤️
G'day Barbara. Very very helpful. You're so resourceful. Thank you. I appreciate you 💙
Thanks for this - the warping was so annoying, I've just got some Collall which is a game changer - brilliant advice!
Very helpful video. I have found that there are clear as well as white PVA glues - both end up crinkling the paper so best used for fabric as you suggest. In Australia we have a large hardware chain called Bunnings and you can buy large bottles of Boyle craft glue which is the toxic smelly one. I decant into smaller bottles to use on my desk.
Great video. Saving this one. My next glue I will be buying is the Liquitex matt gel. I had some years ago but lost it in one of my moves. I loved it. ☺♥
Thank Barbara
You explain everything so well❤❤❤
I like to use fabritac glue when gluing vellum! Because it’s not water based, I find that it won’t warp the vellum at all. Thank you for the helpful video!!
Interesting! For some reason I've always thought that fabric glues are aceton based (Or some other harsh chemical... 🤢 Lol...) Oh, well! The things you learn every day. I love it! Thanks!
Thank you, Barbara! This was so very helpful! I have lots of different glues, plus the tapes, but I am slowly finding my favorites. I don't have the matte gel medium, so that's one that I want to add to my collection. Thanks again!
Thank you Barbara. I'm going to take your advice and get some good adhesive!
Wir haben fast die gleichen Erfahrungen mit Klebern gemacht und ich kann dir in allem Zustimmen. Nur mit Liquitex hab ich bisher keine Erfahrung, aber ich werde es mal ausprobieren… nicht schnell austrocknen hört sich nämlich gut an 😊. Ich finde mit 3in1 oder Collall kann man auch ganz gut Vellum kleben... 💚
Liebe Grüße Nicole
👍🏻 Video very helpful. My main one is Art glitter glue or just bought my Bearly art glue few months back. It’s like Art glitter glue. I like it. Use a few others you showed. I don’t like glue sticks. Thanks for sharing.
Great video! So informative! Loved your comment “ The Diva Vellum” haha so true!!
Oh wow so many.. great info, thank you Barbara 👍🏻
Very helpful, Barbara! Thank you.
Thank you Barbara. Very useful information
Very well done and I concur with all of your observations!😊💕🇨🇦
Thank you! ❤️
Thanks for the useful information Barbara!
Thank you SO much for this!
Thank you for doing this video. It’s very helpful.
Very helpful information. Thank you
Thank you for this much needed video!❤
Good morning there are quite a fews Actions stores in the North of Italy
Thank you so much for these very important informations!
thank you so much Barbara xx
Thank you for sharing now I know what to look for
Barbara, thanks for this informative video. I’m not a fan of glue stick. I don’t think they stick as well as liquid glue. TFS! ❤
Thank you for great information. Very informative
Great information...I do use the kinds of stuff you use, but I do like the stick glue especially for little items and washi tapes............😻
Yes, for washi it’s great! 😃👍🏻
Danke Barbara, das Video ist spitze
Just to be clear (lol), I am thinking overall choice for paper would be AG, Liquitex matte transparent for collage & Tacky Glue for fabrics? I am a beginner & so confused😵💫maybe bc I am working on multiple projects at once? I just learned about gesso and still have no clue what to do with my gel medium. So much to cover. Would be great to have ONE that worked well for most projects, but that’s prob wishful thinking.
Thank you for taking the time to explain what works best for you. I found this to be very useful information & already ordered AG. Better to know now than after a few years of journaling🤭🐼🐼😘Thanks again Barbara.
I’m happy this was helpful. AG for paper is good, tacky glue for fabrics works as well. Gel medium is great for collaging 😊
@@49dragonfliesThank you for that! I’ve been using fabri-tac or mod podge and I have had issues with either the mod podge looking wet on the fabric (attached to the covers) long after it’s dried. I am assuming I’m applying too thick? And my issue with fabri-tac, is that it is sometimes shiny if I use it to adhere lace and it shows through glossy.
Thank you for sharing. I will be investing in the liquidtex matte medium for sure. Trying to use up some old stuff, but honestly, I don’t like the shiny look and probably should just get it now so don’t ruin all my hard work. 🤗❤️
Thanks! I agree! Get it now…
Thank you for sharing😊
Great advice! Thank you for sharing 🙂 The Beacon 3n1 is fabulous glue, but I've had no end of issues with the applicator bottle... thinking now I might buy and try again.
Very informative. Thanks for sharing. ❤️
Very useful information. Thank you
Thank you for this video, it was very helpful!
Great information, thank you
Thank you! Very very helpful ❤
Well done!
Very nice and so helpful. Thanks
Great advice.