[73] How To Tension Locks With Standard Pins

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  • How To Tension Locks With Standard Driver Pins
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    This video goes over tensioning considerations for locks with standard pins. A general rule of thumb is that standard pins can tolerate more tension and use a static amount of tension. Once you get into security pins, tension can become more complicated, and we will get into this in future episodes.
    Skillful tensioning is by far more important than skillful picking. It is a much harder skill to master but you just need to practice, practice, practice, and it will start to click one day.
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  • @HelpfulLockPicker
    @HelpfulLockPicker  6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Please Stay Tuned For More Lock Picking Home School Episodes Every Wednesday at 4pm Eastern. Next week we will be investigating binding order.

    • @LegalLockPicker
      @LegalLockPicker 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      This is the great thing about your channel specifically, I can go through videos and reference them while I am working on a series myself. Although I may not be able to improve the work done I am able to come at it with another perspective.

    • @jamesthe-doctor8981
      @jamesthe-doctor8981 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Can you tell us where to get a pair of TOK tensioners like the ones in this video? Thanks in advance.

  • @bobbykeyz1263
    @bobbykeyz1263 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    What your doing for the beginners is wonderful. Videos like these are hard to find. Keep up the great work my friend your subscribers are lucky to have you. 😎😎

  • @Potti314
    @Potti314 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great tutorial. Will be helpful for a lot beginners.

    • @HelpfulLockPicker
      @HelpfulLockPicker  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Potti314 Thank you for the kind words. I'm hoping once this series is done lock sport will seem more demystified and approachable for beginners

  • @paddlefaster
    @paddlefaster 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent video. I've been looking for some guidance on proper tension And different types of wrenches. This video answered a lot of questions

    • @HelpfulLockPicker
      @HelpfulLockPicker  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you for the kind words and I am glad it helps!

  • @jjs4x
    @jjs4x 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Thank you for the videos! They are very helpful and very well explained. Is it possible to re-key the clear acrylic locks?? Thank you, Jason

    • @HelpfulLockPicker
      @HelpfulLockPicker  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes, you can. But, it is more to add security pins than make a new key since I am not sure what blank you would get or to get the correct keypins.
      check out my video [112] DIY How To Disassemble and Upgrade Your Clear Acrylic Padlock [Great Learning Tool] th-cam.com/video/pk1gOwY7sgM/w-d-xo.html

  • @wiseone6251
    @wiseone6251 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    ThankYou i order a set should be here saturday I just want to tell you I have learned a lot from your videos you do a greaat job explaining them .Thank you

    • @HelpfulLockPicker
      @HelpfulLockPicker  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you for the kind words and I wish you luck!

  • @billbacardi3262
    @billbacardi3262 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome job sir. Love these videos my friend.

    • @HelpfulLockPicker
      @HelpfulLockPicker  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bill Bacardi Thank you for the kind words. I hope this can help those starting out. My ultimate goal is to make lock sport more approachable for beginners!

    • @billbacardi3262
      @billbacardi3262 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      HelpfulLockPicker I'm positive it will buddy.

  • @Leonslockpad
    @Leonslockpad 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great info my friend cool video👍😎👍😊😊😊

  • @m95673
    @m95673 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank You, Thank You , Right on and well said. I just got a set of Mad Bob tension wrenches. -- Really fine , I like the shapes and smoothness of them.

    • @HelpfulLockPicker
      @HelpfulLockPicker  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      m95673 Thanks and I wish you luck! You have some good tools!

  • @strawberryblaze8693
    @strawberryblaze8693 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    12/86 videos done! learned a lot about tension!

  • @natwooding
    @natwooding 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    "... you just need to practice, practice, practice, and it will start to click one day." (Was that a deliberate pun in your description? Haha!)

    • @HelpfulLockPicker
      @HelpfulLockPicker  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Natalie Wooding Lol :) Are my Reddit lessons helping?

    • @natwooding
      @natwooding 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Definitely! Thanks so much for your patience. :)

  • @macnutz4206
    @macnutz4206 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    It is the difficulty of quantifying tension pressure that makes it so difficult to teach or to understand. You seem to just have to feel it out for yourself. I got a lot from this. In my super limited experience, I have had better fortune when I greatly reduced what I already thought was light tension. Suddenly things improved, especially for raking but with SPP, as well. But that is for a super limited sample.
    I got what you are saying and will keep it in mind for future locks. You explained your opinion very well. It will be useful.

    • @HelpfulLockPicker
      @HelpfulLockPicker  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      thank you for the kind words and I'm glad it helped :-)

  • @stewsmith3536
    @stewsmith3536 ปีที่แล้ว

    Learning a lot from you! Having an issue in technique I think. Can't seem to get the pick consistently into the lock due to interference from the tension tool. Especially with the top position. How far should the tension tool be inserted into the bottom or top position. I am not going to quit this process! BTW, I am right handed. Thanks for all of your teachings. I look at several of your postings everyday in my learning process.

    • @HelpfulLockPicker
      @HelpfulLockPicker  ปีที่แล้ว

      You want it inserted just enough. Are you using picks with a tall shank height? Sometimes you need the lower shank height picks depending on the situation

  • @stewsmith3536
    @stewsmith3536 ปีที่แล้ว

    Where can I purchase your quality tools? Great videos!

    • @HelpfulLockPicker
      @HelpfulLockPicker  ปีที่แล้ว

      I like Peterson lock picks but it depends where you are from

  • @dirk4926
    @dirk4926 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I need to get some top of the keyway tension wrenches.

    • @HelpfulLockPicker
      @HelpfulLockPicker  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dirk Stabins If you are from the US or Canada Sparrow has the cheapest option. They make a big difference

    • @dirk4926
      @dirk4926 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks, I'll check them out.

  • @jeffreydheere4737
    @jeffreydheere4737 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    As a for instance, you said don't cheap out on your tensioners, so what is 'too cheap' and what is a good price point? Any specific brands to look for?

    • @HelpfulLockPicker
      @HelpfulLockPicker  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I usually get them from either Sparrow's or Peterson

  • @Feenix102
    @Feenix102 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey. Just started picking, subscribed to your channel earlier this evening. Is it possible to provide top of keyway tension with a bottom of keyway tentioner? I notice that a lot of z wrenches have a short end and a long end - could you use the short end for the top of the keyway? Cheers. :o)

    • @HelpfulLockPicker
      @HelpfulLockPicker  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If it fits it fits but with top of keyway you usually need something which thicker than the typical bottom of the keyway

    • @Feenix102
      @Feenix102 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@HelpfulLockPicker Ah! Ok, thankyou. :o)

  • @buddy227
    @buddy227 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi when im picking i cant seem to get clicks on the pins its more like a grinding feeling am i using to much tention?

    • @HelpfulLockPicker
      @HelpfulLockPicker  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Buddy 22 Is there a possibility your lock has serrated pins in it? You can try to decrease tension and make sure you are picking the key pins and not the warding (sides of the lock).
      You only need enough tension to feel for 1 binding pin.

  • @seanb3516
    @seanb3516 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    To demonstrate your tension level you might place a small blob of playdoh on the tensioner.
    As you press against it you will deform the playdoh. People playing along at home can do the same.
    A similar amount of deformation under similar circumstances should equate to a roughly equivalent force.
    Warming the playdoh in your hands first would allow people to have the material at a similar temperature.

    • @HelpfulLockPicker
      @HelpfulLockPicker  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for sharing! The seems like a cheap and inexpensive approach

  • @stewsmith3536
    @stewsmith3536 ปีที่แล้ว

    What cut away lock would you recommend for learning purposes?

    • @HelpfulLockPicker
      @HelpfulLockPicker  ปีที่แล้ว

      A metal one and not a plastic one. The metal cutaway locks provide more realistic feedback

  • @stewsmith3536
    @stewsmith3536 ปีที่แล้ว

    In what order should I watch your Home School Episodes?

    • @HelpfulLockPicker
      @HelpfulLockPicker  ปีที่แล้ว

      For the most part 1st to last. They are mostly in order

  • @charleswtuggle
    @charleswtuggle 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Where can I find the TOK tool like the two you use most often?

  • @alexbaxter9681
    @alexbaxter9681 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi! I'm new to picking and think that it is something that I really want to learn. However, I'm having a terrible time. I have a Peterson pick set and a clear plastic lock to practice on. So I don't think that equipment is my problem. I have watched all of your videos and practice for one to two hours a day. I've also watched several other channels. I've tried SPP and raking. I've been able to open my lock once with each of these methods. It seems like it was just by accident that it came open. When I'm SPPing I don't seem to be able to hear a pin set. I've varied the tension and don't seem to be able to get any of the pins set. Any additional help that you could offer would be greatly appreciated.

    • @HelpfulLockPicker
      @HelpfulLockPicker  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You might be better served with using a cut away lock rather than a clear lock. The clear locks are not great to learn on.

    • @kineahora8736
      @kineahora8736 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      So funny. I “accidentally” learned picking at a poker game this week. I happen to have watched a number of LPL videos and someone at the game had brought some picks & bottom keyway tensioners and locks from 2 to 6 pins to fiddle with while playing, and as a matter of coincidence-the dealer was a professional locksmith! Anyway, I was immediately able to SPP all the locks, and raking was so easy I lost all faith in locks! I was a rank noob! And still am. I didn’t have to pay any attention to binding order or oversetting. I just used pretty moderate-heavy tension and shoved what I felt were pins, going back to beginning and starting again, till the lock opened. None of the locks were clear or cut-away, just regular cores.
      Im thinking of buying some picks and locks now for the heck of it and because it’s nice to be able to get into stuff when you need to…

  • @larsvandrongelen2299
    @larsvandrongelen2299 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    is it correct that when you use to much tension the pins wont move at all, or should they always be moving

    • @HelpfulLockPicker
      @HelpfulLockPicker  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      If you use too much tension you can bind the pins so hard they won't be easy to move. Once you get into security pins tension amount becomes variable and you need to be more careful

  • @Fr0ntSight
    @Fr0ntSight 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Which TOK wrench would you recommend? My set did not come with one.

    • @HelpfulLockPicker
      @HelpfulLockPicker  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      You will want one in both 0.040" and and 0.050" I use the ones from Peterson (www.thinkpeterson.com) but Sparrow makes an identical set for less. If you are form Europe, check out the Multipick ones.

  • @gizmoteknodekker7060
    @gizmoteknodekker7060 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have one that's like a straight z. Is this a tension wrench? If its not it works well as one...

    • @HelpfulLockPicker
      @HelpfulLockPicker  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Those can be used as a tension wrench. But if it works, it works.

  • @503dcccccccccccc
    @503dcccccccccccc 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I started picking 3 or 4 months ago and caught on quick with the practice locks then taped it up so I couldn’t see pins anymore and having a long commute (not recommended but..) I’d pick while commuting without looking and before long I could pick any master lock I could find. And then I couldn’t. I have reduced, increased , new picks . I’ve resorted to raking at times even. Making tension wrenches. What happened? Have had this happen?

    • @HelpfulLockPicker
      @HelpfulLockPicker  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Everyone vas has moments where they feel like they cant get anything open, it will pass and you will start opening locks again! Thanks for sharing

    • @kimnilsson7501
      @kimnilsson7501 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Look at the pins on the practice locks. If cheap china made, the pins are like cones and whatever you put in will open it. So not, you don't even close to pick anything, Raking and rocking is valueable skills too, but SPP is the real stuff. Get at better practice lock and start over.

    • @503dcccccccccccc
      @503dcccccccccccc 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Kim Nilsson. I think you miss understand

  • @VR-tj9ut
    @VR-tj9ut 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm confused. If you put a tension wrench in the top of the keyway, wouldn't that be in the way of you picking the pins? I'm new and trying to understand this. Because when you pit the wrench in the top of the keyway it looks to me like its literally just blocking the way to the pins. Could someone please explain or teach me?

    • @HelpfulLockPicker
      @HelpfulLockPicker  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It doesn't stick in far enough to touch pin 1

  • @diggerlenny4836
    @diggerlenny4836 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Where do you guys get all the locks? i need some :)

    • @HelpfulLockPicker
      @HelpfulLockPicker  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      eBay, Amazon, thrift stores, trading. It take a little while to build up your collection

    • @diggerlenny4836
      @diggerlenny4836 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@HelpfulLockPicker thanks yep ill keep looking and pick up a couple soon. liked n subbed:)

  • @lokpikr999
    @lokpikr999 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    While top of the keyway tension is a must for certain locks(Such as American padlocks(As standard wrenches will slip and bind)),I find that method awkward(Perhaps because I am used to tensioning by pushing downwards on a bok wrench(As opposed to the side with a tok one))In regards to the amount of tension used,I favor medium pressure(Only use heavy tension for padlocks with stiff cylinder return springs and beveled top pins and light tension for locks containing serrated drivers) PS:It should be noted that what is “heavy” or “light” is entirely subjective,and therefore perhaps what you consider to be light tension is my idea of medium lol

    • @HelpfulLockPicker
      @HelpfulLockPicker  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, it's tough we don't have any objective measurement of the force truly used by others. It would be cool if an engineer could develop that for us someday, lol

    • @lokpikr999
      @lokpikr999 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      HelpfulLockPicker Actually HPC has manufactured a spring loaded tension tool with an indicator mark which corresponds with numbers,however those numbers bear no objective indication(e.g pounds per acquire inch)as to how much pressure is truly being applied
      www.hemitchell.com/automotive/automotive-by-brand/automotive-hpc/hpc-tension-indicator.html

  • @Jcrash29
    @Jcrash29 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Are you left handed?

  • @terencesmith2091
    @terencesmith2091 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have trouble knowing which pin I am on and which pin has been picked

    • @HelpfulLockPicker
      @HelpfulLockPicker  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      It is just something that takes time and practice unless you cheat and use a Lishi tool

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    @CheddarActual 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

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  • @butre.
    @butre. 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    now do tensioning shutter locks, it's a bitch to get even the spring tensioner in there.

    • @HelpfulLockPicker
      @HelpfulLockPicker  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      bu tre I can try to make a video on them down the road, thanks for the suggestion

    • @butre.
      @butre. 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      no problem. if you can include how to do it with the typical bent wiper insert too that'd be great
      I just had my first encounter with a shutter lock, on an older master 379atpy. it was an easy pick due to the cheap master-made wafer core, but figuring out how to work with the shutter for the first time was a nightmare.

  • @stewsmith3536
    @stewsmith3536 ปีที่แล้ว

    Don't laugh; so how does one know the number of pins that will need to be picked?

    • @HelpfulLockPicker
      @HelpfulLockPicker  ปีที่แล้ว

      You can count them with your pick or you can look at the key and assume the lock is fully pinned

  • @NKaumans
    @NKaumans 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    LOL. This is kind of a copy from lockpickinglawer tips on tension.

    • @HelpfulLockPicker
      @HelpfulLockPicker  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for checking it out and providing feedback!

    • @NKaumans
      @NKaumans 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@HelpfulLockPicker keep up the good work

  • @nikkishins
    @nikkishins ปีที่แล้ว +6

    wtf? Are we just word for word copying Lock Picking Lawyers videos now?