Teacher here and his advice at the end is true. I teach 13-15 year old students entering high school, and I try to instill the idea that we try hard, and sometimes it works out and sometimes it doesn't. How we handle things when it doesn't will truly define who we become as people and our success in life. You can tell that he is a good headmaster from his interactions and advice. Love your videos!
man propose god dispose. (reverend insanity a fantasy book) Meaning you give your plan and the world or luck decides. We love games because hard work is always rewarded. Life isn't like that. You might do the right thing and not be rewarded. But if your looking at the sky when it stops to rain you see the clear blue sky. But if your looking down a pit. No matter wether clouds part or not you'll see nothing out of this hole... So if your sad and in the wrong place you'll never get out. But if your in the right place. Even if not now one day it might clear up. So seek the right environement. (thats from me)
I just want to give a shout out to who ever it is on your team that does the translations. Translating those passages into Korean must have been like sitting their own mini SAT all over again. As an English teacher in Korea, I can emphatically state NONE of these questions are standard basic English. I had to help some kids prepare for this test, and I struggled to understand what was being asked. The questions seemed to be straight from an economics doctorate level text / research paper!
@@yangrepositorybkupman sadly, from what I've seen, learning English is not the goal of the Korean English education system. If it were, after 9 years of study, the students would be fluent. No, the goal of the entire 9 years of "English study" seems to be to pass this exam.
@@goulash75 You are correct that learning English is not the goal of the Korean English education. The English test is not really about testing students' fluency in English; it's designed to assess their ability to understand complex ideas, abstract concepts, and similar skills. Although it appears to be an English test, it actually evaluates students' logical thinking. The answers to the questions become clear through logical reasoning, and all answers can be derived from the given texts without adding subjective opinions. Most of the time, even people fluent in English get the answers wrong because they add their personal opinions.
This hits home to me as someone who grew up in East Asia. I remember how studying was all I ever did/cared about, so I paid zero attention to developing my self-esteem, hobbies and other skills. Everything was about getting into a top university. And when I finally did it, the next milestone was to graduate with decent grades. When I graduated and finally got to decide what I wanted to do, I felt like a 3-year-old child thrown in at the deep end. Although I excelled at school, many of my less academic peers who spent time developing their hobbies, confidence and interpersonal skills are seeing much better success in the conventional sense of the term. I have to spend a lot more time making up for what I neglected in childhood.
By your username, there’s a very high chances that you came from Malaysia. Regardless of that, Asian homes are usually this way. Only difference is I’m not afraid to put myself out there since primary school, so I get to enjoy both worlds until I finished my degree. Although my final CGPA was not a celebrated one, I’m glad I did what I did when I went to study. Skills will come to you when you open yourself to learn it, so good luck 🎉
I beg to differ. I found out midway through schooling time, studying is more fun and faster to understand in a group setting. Not only sitting in a group, but to converse and explain the questions and answers together and find better ways to answer (usually for physics and math) among each other. It quickly boosted my confidence and my social skills as we chatter this "global crisis" of ours. Hobbies on the other hand, only occurred after studying, unfortunately with much stress my group of friends usually find ourselves doing not so healthy hobbies I'm afraid, but yeah if you're stuck with the books and books only most of your days, socializing will be hard to establish in later life
Your story resonates deeply. Growing up in a high-pressure academic culture can be so consuming, leaving little room for personal growth outside of grades and achievement. It’s as if life becomes a series of boxes to check: top university, good grades, stable career-and only once we reach those, do we start to realize how much we missed along the way. I can imagine how disorienting it must feel to suddenly be thrust into a world that values skills and qualities we didn’t get a chance to nurture. Confidence, hobbies, self-esteem, resilience-these were set aside in the pursuit of academic excellence, and yet they’re the things that often lead to sustainable success and happiness. It’s like building a beautiful house without a foundation, and once the structure is up, realizing there’s so much more to construct underneath. But here’s something I truly admire about your story: despite all of that, you’re still here, actively working to rebuild those parts of yourself. It’s incredibly courageous, and it shows a level of self-awareness and determination that not everyone has. Yes, some people may seem to have a head start in certain areas, but your story isn’t over. You’re learning and growing on your terms now, and that’s incredibly powerful. I believe the qualities you’re cultivating now will make your path unique and meaningful. In the long run, success isn’t defined by how quickly we reach each milestone but by how authentically we pursue our journey. You’re doing exactly that. Keep going-you’re building a life with true depth and resilience.
I'll say this, every one of my siblings r academically inclined, and extremily intelligent. I am not, I'm on the otherside of the fence, a natural athlete. But my parents were old school and only wanted me to do studies. I could have been an athlete but I didn't even bother once to try out for school sports. I missed out on a lot.
수능 영어를... 교육받은 원어민조차 풀 수 없는 이유는... 적지 않은 지문들이 과거 과학 경제 사회등 각 분야의 영어로 씌여진 전공 서적이나 오래돤 수필에서 차용된 경우인데... 문제는 영상에서도 나왔듯 오직 전공자들만 아는 개념의 단어(일상단어로는 엉뚱한 뜻이거나 기존단어의 변형사용)들과 표현때문이다. 더욱이 영어권 학문분야 서적은 영어 원어민만 쓰는게 아니고.. 전세계에서 온 학자들이 쓴 경우가 많아 표현애서 원어민은 쓰지도 않는 더더욱 이상한 경우가 많다. 그런데 왜 이런 문제를 수능에 낼까... 변별력때문이라고 하지만... 내가 보기엔 현재 출제위원들 수준(나 또한 그 세대이지만)이 그런걸 구분할 능력조차 없기 때문이다. 그래서 가끔 그런 생각을 한다. 차라리 영미권에서 나온... 일정 고등수준의 대중이 보고 즐기는 각종 사회 과학 형사 법정 경제등의 영화나 각 분야의 다큐멘타리에서 듣기 문제와 지문을 추출해 내면... 실제 영어 공부에 있어 그게 더 효율적이고 변별력도 낼 수 있는 방법이 될것인데... 자막 없으면 반도 이해 못하는 수준의 출제위원들은... 꼴에 학자라는 자존심에 절대 그렇게 하지 않는다. 이 영상이 한국 칭찬 영상이기에 직접적인 표현은 없지만... 교장 선생님 머리 속에는 무슨 생각을 할지는 자명하다. 그걸 아는 이유는 내 원어민 친구들에게 보여준적이 있기 떄문이다.
"자막 없으면 반도 이해 못 하는 수준의 출제위원..." 결국은 이 출제위원의 수준이, 대한민국의 영어수준! 제대로 영어로는 말도 못 하는, 대한민국의 영어수준! 근데 원어민들도 모르는 희한한, 아주 어려운 단어들은 척척 다 알고있는 수준! 결국은 수능 끝나면, 절대 써먹지도 못 할 벙어리 영어수준!
지들도 절대 영어로 제대로 된 한 마디도 못 하는 수준의 수능영어 출제위원들이, 대한민국의 아이들을 지들과 또옥같이 만들고 있다! 근데 아무도 얘기 안 해! 아무도 크게 얘기 안 해! 아무도 공론화 안 시켜! 왜? 왜? 왜? 대한민국의 똑똑한 아이들을, 도대체 언제까지 영어 벙어리들로 만들 셈인가? 일상수준의 영어만 되어도, 세계적으로 날고 뛸 애들을!!!
수능 영어가 실제 사용하는 영어와 거리가 있는 이유는 말 그대로 '대학수학능력시험'이기 때문입니다... 대학에서 수학할 수 있는 능력이 있는지, 대학가서 영어로 된 논문을 읽고 해석할 수 있는지 그걸 판단하는 시험이고 그래서 전세계에서 온 학자들이 쓴 표현 또한 포함되는 겁니다... 영어권 학자가 쓴 논문만 골라서 읽을 거 아니잖아요. 일상 및 비즈니스 맥락을 전제하는 시험으로는 토익이 있습니다. 그걸 보시면 됩니다.
I LOVE Mr. Smith. Not only is he funny and seems nice, but also he has a lot of great perspectives on education and life... Then his love for food matches no other! Please please please do a series on him. Take him to Korea or to here in the US!
doing this for second language is definitely extreme but I hardly find it hard for native speakers. like what? none of the false answers are even close to being compelling.
It's clear why they adopted this reading, multiple choice based test. Making a writing portion would be a nightmare for marking. The irony of these koreans complaining about the test when it's the past generation who cried for objectivity.
@@josephp9141 Those questions that he did are easy ones. I mean, if you ever see some real 'hard' questions, then you can never say like that. You will not read a single fking line. really. I can solve those questions that are in the video within 15~20 seconds.
Love his final words.❤ Don’t let this one test define who you are. Get a good night of sleep and go in with a positive mindset. And if there’s a difficult question, don’t let it derail you for the rest of the exam. Take a deep breath and blow it out slowly. You got this!
평생을 영어권 국가에 살았지만 한국 영어수능 문제들 볼 때마다 느끼는데 진짜 단 한번도 영어권에 살면서 못봤던 단어들 투성이에요. 원어민들도 못푸는 거 보셨죠 수험생 여러분? 물론 이 시험을 통해 좋은 대학을 가서 조금 더 좋은 환경 또는 직장에서 본인들의 꿈을 키울 수도 있기에 열심히 해야겠지만 이것만 알아두셔요, 여기 나오는 시험 영어 문제들 실제 외국인 앞에선 실실 웃기만 하면서 땡큐 거릴 꼰대들이 만든 문제니 욕 한번 속으로 시원하게 하고 공부 잘 하셔서 시험 잘 치루시기 바랍니다. 진짜 개똥 같은 문제들이지만 그렇다고 출제자를 탓하면서 공부 안하시면 안되요. 살아보니 공부 잘해서 좋은 대학, 좋은 학과 선택해 살아가는 게 가장 쉽습니다. 수험생 여러분 퐛팅!
Thank you for this video. I am American and am having an extremely rough day. This gave me a bit of joy and humor on a day where it’s hard to see either. Thank you Josh and Ollie!
American too, I’m devastated, but we’re gonna get through this together, we’ve survived him once, we can do it again. We’re gonna be okay, we cannot and will not let him win over our humanity 🫶🏻
I’ve switched off for a bit in order to digest what happened and have been focusing on humorous things in order not to dwell on how much I want to break down and sob!
This episode right here is so thoughtful! Not only you guys reach out to the Koreans, but it touches the hearts of many at so many levels. I am from Malaysia doing my postgrad and I could relate to this very well. Thanks. At least, I knew now that I am not paddling the boat alone. And yeah, paper qualification could be very dehumanising but we have each other. Let's not only define success based on one paper. Life has to many other great things to offer. All the best, everyone!
I would love to see this done with a University Professor at some point, maybe someone from Oxford or something. A lot of the passages they use for SAT seems to come from university level papers, so maybe someone who reads similar papers regularly can tell us if it's actually reasonable for high schoolers to be able to solve them within given time.
truthfully the the sat for english is ridiculous they never test for mastery but for memory...i used to train koreans for delta airlines these people are graduate but struggle using simple english
처음 영국남자 수능 영어 시리즈를 봤을때가 중학교때였던것 같은데 벌써 제 차례가 왔네요🥲🥹 영어를 좋아하지만 수능 영어를 풀때마다 너무 힘들고 어떨때는 정답이 여러개인것 같아 화가날 때도 있지만 영어를 모국어로 쓰는 사람한테도 수능 영어가 어렵구나를 느끼며 위로받아가요😅 영국남자 팀 감사합니다!!!! 열심히 치르고 올게요!!!!! 그리고 스미스 교장 선생님 수고 많으셨어요ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ😂😂😂😂😂 🍀🍀🍀🍀🍀
제발~ 누가 이 영상을 후진적이고 멍청한 '''''한국 교육부 장관''''에게 보내주시 바랍니다. 한국의 영어교육 시스템은 일제 식민지 시대부터 적응되어 지금도 변함이 없습니다. 한국 대학 졸업자의 80%가 싱가포르 사람들에 비해 영어대화를 못하는 이유는 뒤떨어진 '''''암기식 일제 식민지 시대 영어교육'''' 때문입니다.
It might sound like half a compliment half not but I am back for non-food content for this channel🎉❤ I do love the food, like I do for the Jolly channel but it got a bit too narrow and repetitive in terms of themes. Glad we are seeing other stuff too^^ love the channel still and the hard work they put in!
true but if they are doing food content again, i would love to see they go to deeper parts of korea to showcase more tradiitional korean dishes based on the province or regional area.
i have started to feel the same about the Jolly channel too actually. like the videos they would make in their studio back then were so much more fun. ollie with his crazy ideas and all...they were so creative and fun. now its just all food. i mean i would still watch them but u know it feels like its the same thing over and over again.
I took the test along with the video and I scored very well. However, I am very gifted with speed reading, multiple-choice skills and English is my first language. I can't imagine doing well at this without all three of those things, so I applaud every Korean student for even trying this test. Good Luck!
I would have loved to have Mr Smith as my secondary school head teacher. I went to a school just 2 miles away from his one back in the early 2000s, and his attitude to success, achievement, humility and what makes a good life are so much healthier and more rational than what I experienced. His students are lucky ❤
저도 한 15년 전에 공부와 담을 쌓고, 수능에서 보잘것없는 결과를 내놓았고, 공부 안한걸 후회하면서 펑펑 울며 전문대를 진학했습니다. 문과생이 팔자에도 없던 IT계열로 진학해서 열심히 쫒아갔고, 교수님들께서 좋게 봐주셔서 해외취업의 기회를 얻어 지금 10년째 일하고 있습니다. 수능을 망치고 저처럼 재수할 자신 없어 전문대로 도망쳐도 열심히 하거나 잘 하면 나중에 기회가 오더라구요. 내가 못한만큼 앞으로의 인생에서 선택할 수 있는 선택지는 조금씩 줄지만, 모든게 다 망해서 없어지는건 아닙니다. 다들 힘내세요.
As an English degree graduate, this was amazing! This is intentional deception. This is meant for the students to parse through the information, and find the core of the question to find an answer. I found this fun. It feels similar to a puzzle.
I find this fun too, challenging like a puzzle. However, I am 33 and I love languages, english in particular. I'm not 18 and this exam doesn't determine my future. This I think would be great in uni, majoring in english, not great as a generalised high school exam.
intentional deception? The false keys are hardly compelling lol. Obliviously it's weird that they don't do writing for such a notorious test but these answers are all reasonable. They go to court for these you know
Reading all the presented questions on screen I am glad that I still got most of them right even if my highschool days are decades past. But it indeed made me realize that when you aren't a student and actively studying these things rust settles in and you become a slower version of yourself that was still in school.
It's the same in Vietnam. Most of fancy things we learned will barely be put into use unless we pursue very specific fields, or higher degrees in another country, but we did learn so hard to pass the exam
I mean that’s the point right? Highly advanced tests to sort students into top universities? As far as I remember (as a fresh high school graduate, mind you), most other exams aren’t that difficult for the average student. If you’re talking about education as a whole, then yes there’s a million different ways it can be improved. The higher education culture there is also relevant, but I’d argue the SAT (maybe not KSAT, but they are really similar from what I can see) fulfill its job well.
yup, it’s crazy and has only been getting worse due to the growing popularity of ielts. people use advanced expressions yet aren’t even remotely fluent. listening to it feels bizzare. because wdym you are out here randomly throwing in ielts 8.5 vocab while simultaneously not being able to produce a single coherent sentence without stuttering or participate in an actual fast-paced conversation? i’d rather people use simpler words and mess up the grammar, at least their language will sound lively and REAL compared to that rehearsed type of speech pattern which they clearly acquired after attending a 3 month 2mil vnd course. because most of the ‘graduates’ have no idea what they are talking about and cannot apply those skills beyond a standardized test structure. not a native english speaker or a teacher, just someone who spent 2 years in vietnam and frequented the local english clubs. although i tried to avoid speaking english in other settings and would otherwise nói tiếng việt anywhere i could
@@peculliar ideally that's what should happen in language learning. it's just that their goal of teaching eng in school is different. they don't teach english so the students are fluent in it, they're only teaching english so the students can extract information from eng papers during uni. it doesn't matter if they can't barely form a sentence during convo with eng speakers, which is a pretty common occurrence in schools throughout asia tbh. After all what's the chance of them actually having to speak with native english speakers in the first place lol
As someone who got an 8 (strong A) in English Language GCSE, and is now taking both English Language and English Literature A-Level...I'm never moving to Korea. Honestly, my takeaway from this is that you might as well be reading a collection of snippets from Masters level research papers! Edit: I now understand that this is more to do with using English for work than actually speaking it, and that most of the questions were indeed aimed at English comprehension. Please stop correcting me lol.
this is the case for most top cities in Asia the english papers and most other subjects ranging from history to physics are testing your skills at taking the exam rather than learning actual knowledge. tbh as someone who has lived tht life i dont regret or think that bad of it, it taught me discipline whilst my creative thinking side I nurtured on my own elsewhere
''you might as well be reading a collection of snippets from Masters level research papers'' That is pretty much the objective of the test. Most Koreans don't really use English that much unless you are reading legal documents, advanced textbooks, and research papers. Besides learning speaking English in like elementary and early middle school, they just concentrate on reading comprehension for the purpose I mentioned.
국제 결혼한 미국인 여성이 방금 수능 영어 문제푸는 영상을 봤는데, 그 분은 만점 받았는데... 영국남자에서 보면, 쓰지 않는 영어를 시험으로 낸다고 투덜거렸는데... 여태 영국남자나 일반 원어민들이 문제 푸는 것만 보고 영어 문제를 꽤 잘못내나 보다 생각했는데...그 분은 독해력이나 이해력, 일반 회화도 적절하게 잘 냈다고 하던데... ㅋㅋㅋ 그리고 국어 원어민인 우리도 일상 국어와 시험용 국어는 달라요. 국어 원어민들도 국어시험 엄청 못 보거든요. 그리고 하는 말, 시험 문제가 엉터리야 ㅋㅋㅋ
오히려 더 잘푸실껄요? 수능 영어는 긴 문장구조와 어휘가 더러운거지 해석본만 보면 독해 난이도가 많이 높진 않습니다. 비문학은 워낙 글이 구조적으로 거의 완벽하고 유기적으로 쓰이기 때문에 당황만 하지 않으면 문해력 높은사람들은 충분히 풀수있다고 생각합니다. 애초에 비문학은 내가 모르는 분야의 글을 얼마나 빠르고 정확하게 읽어내는지에 대한 시험이니까요. 원어민들이 수능영어 풀면 많이 어려워하지만, 그냥 국내에서 글이나 책 많이 읽은사람들 비문학 풀게하면 대부분 성적 잘나오는거랑 비슷한 원리죠.
@@piter-h7o 최근 비문학은 본문이 다시 짧아지며 선지에서 보기와 같은 새로운 text에 연관시키는 과정에 힘을 주거나 비판, 강화/약화 등의 유형을 추가해 비판적 사고력이나 논리도 평가하려 하는 트렌드입니다. 당장 최고 오답률을 보인 지문 중 하나인 트리핀 딜레마/브레턴우즈 체제 (22학년도수능)도 본문 길이 자체는 그렇게 길지 않습니다
@hder9 작문•논술이 변별력 없다고 누가 그러나요..? 지금도 많은 시험이 논술형 주관식으로 치러지고 있고, 각각 채점기준이 있습니다. 수학능력을 검정하는 시험을 대다수 국민이 준비하고, 응시하고, 통과해서 대학에 가는데도 많은 대졸자들이 어떤 사안에 대한 자기 의견을 논리적으로 피력할 줄도 모르고, 문해력이 뒤떨어지는 똑똑한 바보가 돼있는 게 우리 현실입니다. 객관성만을 위해 '수능'과 다소 동떨어진 수능을 유지하자고만 하는 건 어리석다고 생각합니다. 또, 국민 수준을 이야기 하시는데, 그 국민 수준이라는 건 어떻게 형성되나요? 영국 국민은 한국 국민과 어떤 태생적 차이가 있길래 다른 '수준'을 갖게 된 거죠? 그 수준이란 것은 불변하는 것이라 더 나은 수준이 되기 위한 어떤 노력도 의미가 없고 필요가 없는 것인가요? 현행 수능 찬성론은 당연히 있을 수 있지만, 말씀하신 근거들은 전혀 설득적이지 않습니다.
@@hder9 작문•논술이 변별력 없다고 누가 그러나요..? 지금도 많은 시험이 논술형 주관식으로 치러지고 있고, 각각 채점기준이 있습니다. 수학능력을 검정하는 시험을 대다수 국민이 준비하고, 응시하고, 통과해서 대학에 가는데도 많은 대졸자들이 어떤 사안에 대한 자기 의견을 논리적으로 피력할 줄도 모르고, 문해력이 뒤떨어지는 똑똑한 바보가 돼있는 게 우리 현실입니다. 객관성만을 위해 '수능'과 다소 동떨어진 수능을 유지하자고만 하는 건 어리석다고 생각합니다. 또, 국민 수준을 이야기 하시는데, 그 국민 수준이라는 건 어떻게 형성되나요? 영국 국민은 한국 국민과 어떤 태생적 차이가 있길래 다른 '수준'을 갖게 된 거죠? 그 수준이란 것은 불변하는 것이라 더 나은 수준이 되기 위한 어떤 노력도 의미가 없고 필요가 없는 것인가요? 현행 수능 찬성론은 당연히 있을 수 있지만, 말씀하신 근거들은 전혀 설득적이지 않습니다.
By happenstance, Josh knew Dave and introduced his students to korean food and culture, their personalities and popularity earned them a trip to South Korea
You guys should do the American SAT and ACT. We take the SAT at the end of Sophomore year and the ACT around senior year. The scores on them don’t really count towards anything but colleges like when you take them as it’s a good indicator of your level. Most universities actually have a minimum SAT score that you should keep an eye on. Earning 2600 is the perfect score and schools will be clamoring for you to go them. Unfortunately very few students ever get it as maybe one every year gets it. The students that score high are usually science and English program students. Getting AP or gifted is no guarantee of doing well on those tests. The SAT requires a lot of vocabulary skills as every year a new guide is published with new words you need to memorize and understand.
@ThatCasualGuy23 it's actually 2400 if you take the entire exam (800 per each subject - Reading, Math, and Writing), but by technicality most colleges and universities typically only look at the combined score between Reading and Math. So you do have a valid argument there too.
So grateful that English wasn't even a subject I could choose, and even though I chose to do English Literature, the A levels for that was just essay writing.
시험을 이렇게 내니까 애들이 영어를 못하지요..... 초6중3고3대4 총 16년을 영어공부해도 영어회화 잘하는 사람이 별로 없어요. 이건 한국시험 어렵다의 문제가 아니라, 불필요한 경쟁으로 대학을 가야하는 교육시스템의 문제이고 학생들과 학부모가 피해자가 되는겁니다. 학부모, 학생은 이에 반발하고 대안을 바래야 하는데 그럼 당장 중간고사, 기말고사가 계속 되는데 언제 반발하고 있나요? 국민 모두 이런 교육시스템에 저항해야 합니다.
애초에 수능 영어랑 교육과정 영어는 영어회화 잘하라고 내는게 아님. 1. 영어라는 탈을 쓴 교과과목일뿐, 얼마나 공부를 열심히 했냐를 보는거임. 이름만 영어고 얼마나 수학공부해서 문제풀듯 얼마나 문제해결잘하냐를 보는것. 2. 수능영어, 고등영어는 대학가서 논문읽는 능력에 도움을 주는거임. 논문이나 전공서적 위주라 그런 난해한 영어 독해 능력을 키우기 좋음. 어찌보면 철저히 대학가서 필요하는 능력을 기르는거라고 볼 수 도 있음.
I've always been aware of the insane amount of pressure students in Asia faced when trying to get into uni, but now as I study the SQE I feel like I understand how exactly debilitating studying for exams that are designed to trip you up are 😭
"When you look at what success is later on in life, you might describe success in different ways." Koreans define 'success' in such an identical way and that makes young students suffer. Your word is the one that korean students need to be taught at school😭 As a korean who take korean SAT next week, I'll try my best ‘success ' in the way I want.
I used to work at a 5-star resort reception, and we had Korean and Japanese staffs too because we have plenty of Korean and Japanese tourists coming in. Every end of the month, our Front Office Manager made us do a write-up about something we experienced that month; it could be about anything in regards to work. It could be a long or short write-up (depends on us) and it was an outlet for us to rant about work so we loved doing it. However, our only Korean staff, Ms. Ji Hye (but she prefers being called Kelly), absolutely hated it because in her own words she "don't know how to write essay". She can speak English fairly fluently, but in terms of writing something on her own accord from zero (without a prompt like how conversations do), she blanks out completely. She told us that at school, they weren't taught creative and critical thinking when it comes to the English Language. And by watching this video, I kinda get what she meant by that. It all feels very technical and robotic to me.
Whenever I hear about these types of exams, I can only think that it'd make me want to study abroad. Learn English well enough to do one of these, be decent in math, and you're going to be able to get a high score on the SAT and ACT exams in the U.S. and get into a mid- to high-tier school, probably with scholarships. No idea how it is in UK schools, but I'd imagine with good academic records it'd be doable. Not to mention whatever other countries one might be interested in throughout the world.
고3 수험생인데 모든 문제를 1분 2분 안에 풀진 않아요 듣기때 미리 풀어논것도 있어서 (전 듣기때 12개 정도 풀어놈) 빠르면 뭐 30초도 걸리지만 어려운건 3 4분 넘게 소요할 때도 있어요 그리고 영어가 워낙 어렵다보니 대부분의 대학교들이 1등급하고 2등급에 점수차이를 얼마 안둬요 다른 과목이 훨씬 대학에 영향을 미치죠 영어보단 데이브쌤은 2등급은 나오실듯 수능 영어에 익숙해지면 올해 6모급 정도 아닌이상 1 2정돈 잘 나올만 하죠
I loved this video so much! I wish you'd shown all 15 questions onscreen so I could try answering all of them. I had to pause the video because it takes me longer to read from a laptop screen than from a tablet or paper, but I'm tickled that I missed only one of the onscreen questions. Untangling the convoluted questions tests cognitive acumen rather than rote learning. It was interesting to see how the wording of the questions reinforced messages about being a successful Korean citizen. It is the same patriotic-propaganda approach used in the American public education system. Having recently watched the English "schoolboys" train with the Korean military made this stand out to me. Excellent video. I enjoyed it a great deal.
As a guy who did really bad in SAT way back when and got rejected in most universities I applied to, I understand how big this is for Korean students. But I would echo what Mr. Smith said at the end - failure in the exam does not define who you are. I hope more students will take on this mindset and when they get to the marketplace and take on decision making positions, they will bring about the change in Korea's view of CSAT as well as how the test is put together - for the betterment of the next generation of exam takers and Korea's education system in general. Seriously, those CSAT problems are outrageous - it feels more like an entrance test for those seeking management consulting jobs in McKinsey or Deloitte. It is just not fair for most of those kids.
all the questions shown on the screen are actually really simple. It's like they said, trick questions almost. simply to test your concentration. Also funnily, i find the English in this actual paper not consistent. If i'm not mistaken, I think Korean follows American english conventions, but then, in one question shown, there was like 'recognise' with a 's' rather than a 'z'. that really stood out to me. also some sentences, it feels very google translate-ish. It's so Korean in its sentence structure. idk if you get what I'm explaining.
한국의 수능 출제방향은 종합적인 사고력을 측정하는 겁니다. 영어 시험 조차도 그렇습니다. 저 지문들은 영어로 쓰여진 대학교 수준의 전공 개론서 수준에서 발췌한 것이고 너무 어려운 단어만 일부 쉬운 것으로 교체했습니다. 고난도 문제는 대학원 수준일 수도 있습니다. 저렇게 어렵게 출제해도 대부분 좋은 성적을 얻습니다.그리고 한국교육부는 영국영어 미국영어 모두를 인정합니다. 그러니 어휘에 대한 표기가 영국식이든 미국식이든 문제 없습니다. 그리고 이 시험 문제들은 박사학위가 있는 여러명의 영어 원어민들의 최종 점검을 거친겁니다. 한국 수능 영어 문제는 단지 생활영어를 잘한다고 좋은 점수를 얻을 수 있는 문제가 아닙니다. 영어 독해 실력 외에 추론 능력 같은 사고력이 좋아야 합니다. 저런 정도의 문제를 1분에 한 문제씩 풀어야 합니다. 빨리 푸는 것도 사고력과 관련이 있습니다. 한국의 수능은 머리 좋은 사람을 뽑는 문제고 그렇게 뽑힌 인재들이 각 분야에서 좋은 실적을 내서 오늘날의 한국을 만든 겁니다. 머리가 나쁘면 영어사전을 주고 시험을 보게해도 좋은 점수를 내지 못합니다. 난 한국의 수능 영어 시험문제를 열렬히 지지하는 사람입니다. 참 좋은 지문들이고 높은 수준의 책을 읽을 수 있는 능력이 없으면 영어 사전을 주고 풀라고 해도 못 푸는 문제들입니다. 한국의 수능은 사고력이 좋은 사람을 골라내는 시험이고 그런 면에서 변별력이 아주 좋은 문제들입니다.
@@yonggheelee1743 as a native English speaker, I actually find all the sample questions shown in this video to be quite simple. The grammar question in the video for example, sounds confounding at first, but if you really look at it, it's honestly a simple elementary grammar question. Though it is true i agree the exam seems to use a lot of obselete, niche, technical jargons and that could be challenging if English isn't your first language. I just feel these are very simple questions, at least by my standards. But it was interesting to see the sort of English being tested at a college entrance exam level in a country where English isn't the first language.
As a 53-year-old neurodivergent who wants to do my PGCE to become a teacher. I am currently studying to do my GCSE's in English and maths, and I have to say that studying for those 2 GCSE's, is far harder than when I did my master's degree.
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Teacher here and his advice at the end is true. I teach 13-15 year old students entering high school, and I try to instill the idea that we try hard, and sometimes it works out and sometimes it doesn't. How we handle things when it doesn't will truly define who we become as people and our success in life. You can tell that he is a good headmaster from his interactions and advice. Love your videos!
And his students love him. We saw it in the previous videos😊
man propose god dispose. (reverend insanity a fantasy book) Meaning you give your plan and the world or luck decides.
We love games because hard work is always rewarded. Life isn't like that. You might do the right thing and not be rewarded.
But if your looking at the sky when it stops to rain you see the clear blue sky. But if your looking down a pit. No matter wether clouds part or not you'll see nothing out of this hole... So if your sad and in the wrong place you'll never get out. But if your in the right place. Even if not now one day it might clear up. So seek the right environement. (thats from me)
Very true. When things don't work out, it's not the end of the world. This is also the same thing my high school teacher told me many years ago
Agree to this
한국인으로써 이런 한국시험 시리즈 나올때마다 너무 창피하다 외국인이 이상해하는걸 영어랍시고 창작을 해버리는게...에휴😂
I just want to give a shout out to who ever it is on your team that does the translations. Translating those passages into Korean must have been like sitting their own mini SAT all over again.
As an English teacher in Korea, I can emphatically state NONE of these questions are standard basic English. I had to help some kids prepare for this test, and I struggled to understand what was being asked. The questions seemed to be straight from an economics doctorate level text / research paper!
Questions created supposedly to differentiate students are making it harder for people to learn English as a language
If they prepared these questions from past SAT tests or even mock exams they would’ve had access to the Korean translations with the correct answers!
@@yangrepositorybkupman sadly, from what I've seen, learning English is not the goal of the Korean English education system. If it were, after 9 years of study, the students would be fluent. No, the goal of the entire 9 years of "English study" seems to be to pass this exam.
@@fynchbird yeah, forgot that little fact. ^^
@@goulash75 You are correct that learning English is not the goal of the Korean English education. The English test is not really about testing students' fluency in English; it's designed to assess their ability to understand complex ideas, abstract concepts, and similar skills. Although it appears to be an English test, it actually evaluates students' logical thinking. The answers to the questions become clear through logical reasoning, and all answers can be derived from the given texts without adding subjective opinions. Most of the time, even people fluent in English get the answers wrong because they add their personal opinions.
This hits home to me as someone who grew up in East Asia. I remember how studying was all I ever did/cared about, so I paid zero attention to developing my self-esteem, hobbies and other skills. Everything was about getting into a top university. And when I finally did it, the next milestone was to graduate with decent grades. When I graduated and finally got to decide what I wanted to do, I felt like a 3-year-old child thrown in at the deep end. Although I excelled at school, many of my less academic peers who spent time developing their hobbies, confidence and interpersonal skills are seeing much better success in the conventional sense of the term. I have to spend a lot more time making up for what I neglected in childhood.
This one hits home! I really hope you don't get too stressed about career, life and success, wish you all the luck
By your username, there’s a very high chances that you came from Malaysia. Regardless of that, Asian homes are usually this way.
Only difference is I’m not afraid to put myself out there since primary school, so I get to enjoy both worlds until I finished my degree. Although my final CGPA was not a celebrated one, I’m glad I did what I did when I went to study.
Skills will come to you when you open yourself to learn it, so good luck 🎉
I beg to differ. I found out midway through schooling time, studying is more fun and faster to understand in a group setting. Not only sitting in a group, but to converse and explain the questions and answers together and find better ways to answer (usually for physics and math) among each other. It quickly boosted my confidence and my social skills as we chatter this "global crisis" of ours. Hobbies on the other hand, only occurred after studying, unfortunately with much stress my group of friends usually find ourselves doing not so healthy hobbies I'm afraid, but yeah if you're stuck with the books and books only most of your days, socializing will be hard to establish in later life
Your story resonates deeply. Growing up in a high-pressure academic culture can be so consuming, leaving little room for personal growth outside of grades and achievement. It’s as if life becomes a series of boxes to check: top university, good grades, stable career-and only once we reach those, do we start to realize how much we missed along the way.
I can imagine how disorienting it must feel to suddenly be thrust into a world that values skills and qualities we didn’t get a chance to nurture. Confidence, hobbies, self-esteem, resilience-these were set aside in the pursuit of academic excellence, and yet they’re the things that often lead to sustainable success and happiness. It’s like building a beautiful house without a foundation, and once the structure is up, realizing there’s so much more to construct underneath.
But here’s something I truly admire about your story: despite all of that, you’re still here, actively working to rebuild those parts of yourself. It’s incredibly courageous, and it shows a level of self-awareness and determination that not everyone has. Yes, some people may seem to have a head start in certain areas, but your story isn’t over. You’re learning and growing on your terms now, and that’s incredibly powerful.
I believe the qualities you’re cultivating now will make your path unique and meaningful. In the long run, success isn’t defined by how quickly we reach each milestone but by how authentically we pursue our journey. You’re doing exactly that. Keep going-you’re building a life with true depth and resilience.
I'll say this, every one of my siblings r academically inclined, and extremily intelligent. I am not, I'm on the otherside of the fence, a natural athlete. But my parents were old school and only wanted me to do studies. I could have been an athlete but I didn't even bother once to try out for school sports. I missed out on a lot.
수능 영어를... 교육받은 원어민조차 풀 수 없는 이유는... 적지 않은 지문들이 과거 과학 경제 사회등 각 분야의 영어로 씌여진 전공 서적이나 오래돤 수필에서 차용된 경우인데... 문제는 영상에서도 나왔듯 오직 전공자들만 아는 개념의 단어(일상단어로는 엉뚱한 뜻이거나 기존단어의 변형사용)들과 표현때문이다. 더욱이 영어권 학문분야 서적은 영어 원어민만 쓰는게 아니고.. 전세계에서 온 학자들이 쓴 경우가 많아 표현애서 원어민은 쓰지도 않는 더더욱 이상한 경우가 많다. 그런데 왜 이런 문제를 수능에 낼까... 변별력때문이라고 하지만... 내가 보기엔 현재 출제위원들 수준(나 또한 그 세대이지만)이 그런걸 구분할 능력조차 없기 때문이다. 그래서 가끔 그런 생각을 한다. 차라리 영미권에서 나온... 일정 고등수준의 대중이 보고 즐기는 각종 사회 과학 형사 법정 경제등의 영화나 각 분야의 다큐멘타리에서 듣기 문제와 지문을 추출해 내면... 실제 영어 공부에 있어 그게 더 효율적이고 변별력도 낼 수 있는 방법이 될것인데... 자막 없으면 반도 이해 못하는 수준의 출제위원들은... 꼴에 학자라는 자존심에 절대 그렇게 하지 않는다. 이 영상이 한국 칭찬 영상이기에 직접적인 표현은 없지만... 교장 선생님 머리 속에는 무슨 생각을 할지는 자명하다. 그걸 아는 이유는 내 원어민 친구들에게 보여준적이 있기 떄문이다.
정확하십니다. 전적으로 동의합니다!!
"자막 없으면 반도 이해 못 하는 수준의 출제위원..." 결국은 이 출제위원의 수준이, 대한민국의 영어수준! 제대로 영어로는 말도 못 하는, 대한민국의 영어수준! 근데 원어민들도 모르는 희한한, 아주 어려운 단어들은 척척 다 알고있는 수준! 결국은 수능 끝나면, 절대 써먹지도 못 할 벙어리 영어수준!
지들도 절대 영어로 제대로 된 한 마디도 못 하는 수준의 수능영어 출제위원들이, 대한민국의 아이들을 지들과 또옥같이 만들고 있다! 근데 아무도 얘기 안 해! 아무도 크게 얘기 안 해! 아무도 공론화 안 시켜! 왜? 왜? 왜? 대한민국의 똑똑한 아이들을, 도대체 언제까지 영어 벙어리들로 만들 셈인가? 일상수준의 영어만 되어도, 세계적으로 날고 뛸 애들을!!!
그냥 영어도 실용적으로 바꾸고 한국사정도로 해야함
수능 영어가 실제 사용하는 영어와 거리가 있는 이유는 말 그대로 '대학수학능력시험'이기 때문입니다... 대학에서 수학할 수 있는 능력이 있는지, 대학가서 영어로 된 논문을 읽고 해석할 수 있는지 그걸 판단하는 시험이고 그래서 전세계에서 온 학자들이 쓴 표현 또한 포함되는 겁니다... 영어권 학자가 쓴 논문만 골라서 읽을 거 아니잖아요.
일상 및 비즈니스 맥락을 전제하는 시험으로는 토익이 있습니다. 그걸 보시면 됩니다.
I LOVE Mr. Smith. Not only is he funny and seems nice, but also he has a lot of great perspectives on education and life... Then his love for food matches no other! Please please please do a series on him. Take him to Korea or to here in the US!
I'm definitely not a final year high schooler in korea who's about to take sat, but headmaster's encouraging words made me teared up a bit
doing this for second language is definitely extreme but I hardly find it hard for native speakers. like what? none of the false answers are even close to being compelling.
It's clear why they adopted this reading, multiple choice based test. Making a writing portion would be a nightmare for marking. The irony of these koreans complaining about the test when it's the past generation who cried for objectivity.
@@josephp9141 Those questions that he did are easy ones. I mean, if you ever see some real 'hard' questions, then you can never say like that. You will not read a single fking line. really. I can solve those questions that are in the video within 15~20 seconds.
Love his final words.❤
Don’t let this one test define who you are. Get a good night of sleep and go in with a positive mindset. And if there’s a difficult question, don’t let it derail you for the rest of the exam. Take a deep breath and blow it out slowly. You got this!
수능이 많은 것을 결정하기도 하지만 돌아보면 큰일이 아니기도 한거 같아요. 준비한 것을 모두 뽐낼 수 있는 하루였으면 좋겠네요. 새로운 봄을 준비하는 그대들에게 따뜻한 겨울이 되기를 바랍니다.
잉 너무 따뜻한 말씀 감사합니다
Exactly. God speed.
따뜻한 말씀 감사합니다
평생을 영어권 국가에 살았지만 한국 영어수능 문제들 볼 때마다 느끼는데 진짜 단 한번도 영어권에 살면서 못봤던 단어들 투성이에요. 원어민들도 못푸는 거 보셨죠 수험생 여러분? 물론 이 시험을 통해 좋은 대학을 가서 조금 더 좋은 환경 또는 직장에서 본인들의 꿈을 키울 수도 있기에 열심히 해야겠지만 이것만 알아두셔요, 여기 나오는 시험 영어 문제들 실제 외국인 앞에선 실실 웃기만 하면서 땡큐 거릴 꼰대들이 만든 문제니 욕 한번 속으로 시원하게 하고 공부 잘 하셔서 시험 잘 치루시기 바랍니다. 진짜 개똥 같은 문제들이지만 그렇다고 출제자를 탓하면서 공부 안하시면 안되요. 살아보니 공부 잘해서 좋은 대학, 좋은 학과 선택해 살아가는 게 가장 쉽습니다. 수험생 여러분 퐛팅!
멋지다!
Thank you for this video. I am American and am having an extremely rough day. This gave me a bit of joy and humor on a day where it’s hard to see either. Thank you Josh and Ollie!
American here and sharing this sentiment.
Going to be a rough 4 years. A disaster really.
American too, I’m devastated, but we’re gonna get through this together, we’ve survived him once, we can do it again. We’re gonna be okay, we cannot and will not let him win over our humanity 🫶🏻
I’ve switched off for a bit in order to digest what happened and have been focusing on humorous things in order not to dwell on how much I want to break down and sob!
Y’all are depressed while the rest of us are celebrating 🥳 finally back to normalcy!
This episode right here is so thoughtful! Not only you guys reach out to the Koreans, but it touches the hearts of many at so many levels. I am from Malaysia doing my postgrad and I could relate to this very well. Thanks. At least, I knew now that I am not paddling the boat alone. And yeah, paper qualification could be very dehumanising but we have each other. Let's not only define success based on one paper. Life has to many other great things to offer. All the best, everyone!
굉장히 인자하시고 스마트하신 교장선생님이시네요
이런교장선생님과함께 학창시절을 보낸다면 정말 의미있는 학창시절이 되었을수도있겠다싶네요 ㅎ
영국남자랑 교ㅣ장선생님 모두 행복하세요 화이팅~~
I would love to see this done with a University Professor at some point, maybe someone from Oxford or something. A lot of the passages they use for SAT seems to come from university level papers, so maybe someone who reads similar papers regularly can tell us if it's actually reasonable for high schoolers to be able to solve them within given time.
Yes! Someone who deals with a lot of scientific papers!
truthfully the the sat for english is ridiculous they never test for mastery but for memory...i used to train koreans for delta airlines these people are graduate but struggle using simple english
yeah some English literature expert or smtg
I think I saw some professor from a famous American or British university try it out. He got quite a lot wrong and he said it was hard.
@@abouttime2569 okkk
13:07 교장선생님 본업 모먼트..⭐️
교장 선생님의 희생에 깊은 감사드립니다.❤😊❤
교장 선생님의 응원의 메시지가 마음에 확 와닿네요~고맙습니다~
Feels so right to have you guys come back with content!
처음 영국남자 수능 영어 시리즈를 봤을때가 중학교때였던것 같은데 벌써 제 차례가 왔네요🥲🥹 영어를 좋아하지만 수능 영어를 풀때마다 너무 힘들고 어떨때는 정답이 여러개인것 같아 화가날 때도 있지만 영어를 모국어로 쓰는 사람한테도 수능 영어가 어렵구나를 느끼며 위로받아가요😅
영국남자 팀 감사합니다!!!! 열심히 치르고 올게요!!!!!
그리고 스미스 교장 선생님 수고 많으셨어요ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ😂😂😂😂😂
🍀🍀🍀🍀🍀
Best wishes 🙏👍
good luck buddy!
컨디션 조절 잘 하시고 힘내세요~
All the best.
Good luck 😊
교장선생님 단독 한국여행편 어떨까요? 교장선생님 은근 재미있고 유쾌한 분 같던데 ㅎㅎㅎ 교장선생님 한국여행편해도 재미있을듯 잘 드시고 편견없이 보시는거 같으셔서 ❤❤😊😊😊👍👍💕영국남자채널 사랑합니다❤❤
개똑똑하누
제발~ 누가 이 영상을 후진적이고 멍청한 '''''한국 교육부 장관''''에게 보내주시 바랍니다.
한국의 영어교육 시스템은 일제 식민지 시대부터 적응되어 지금도 변함이 없습니다.
한국 대학 졸업자의 80%가 싱가포르 사람들에 비해 영어대화를 못하는 이유는 뒤떨어진
'''''암기식 일제 식민지 시대 영어교육'''' 때문입니다.
We ADORE Mr. Smith! Such a genuinely lovely person! No wonder all the boys have grown into such amazing men with him as a role model! ❤
Well done love this video!! Missing Mr Smith so good to have him back on the channel!!🎉
It might sound like half a compliment half not but I am back for non-food content for this channel🎉❤ I do love the food, like I do for the Jolly channel but it got a bit too narrow and repetitive in terms of themes. Glad we are seeing other stuff too^^ love the channel still and the hard work they put in!
true but if they are doing food content again, i would love to see they go to deeper parts of korea to showcase more tradiitional korean dishes based on the province or regional area.
I second this🎉
i have started to feel the same about the Jolly channel too actually. like the videos they would make in their studio back then were so much more fun. ollie with his crazy ideas and all...they were so creative and fun. now its just all food. i mean i would still watch them but u know it feels like its the same thing over and over again.
Yesss
agreed!
와우 그래도 잘 푸시네요 역시 선생님이시다 😂
수능이 곧이네요 수험생들 화이팅!!!
I took the test along with the video and I scored very well. However, I am very gifted with speed reading, multiple-choice skills and English is my first language. I can't imagine doing well at this without all three of those things, so I applaud every Korean student for even trying this test. Good Luck!
한국어로 해석된 자막을 읽어도 저언혀 이해가 안되는 지문으로 '영어'테스트를 한다는게 참😂
내년엔 영어 일타강사선생님을 게스트로 초대해서 수능 스킬을 배워보는 컨텐츠도 재밌을것 같아요!ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ 수능은 유형별로 확실히 푸는 스킬이 있으니까요😅
이번 영상 너무 재밌네요ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
I would have loved to have Mr Smith as my secondary school head teacher. I went to a school just 2 miles away from his one back in the early 2000s, and his attitude to success, achievement, humility and what makes a good life are so much healthier and more rational than what I experienced. His students are lucky ❤
교장선생님 반가워요!!
저도 한 15년 전에 공부와 담을 쌓고, 수능에서 보잘것없는 결과를 내놓았고, 공부 안한걸 후회하면서 펑펑 울며 전문대를 진학했습니다.
문과생이 팔자에도 없던 IT계열로 진학해서 열심히 쫒아갔고, 교수님들께서 좋게 봐주셔서 해외취업의 기회를 얻어 지금 10년째 일하고 있습니다.
수능을 망치고 저처럼 재수할 자신 없어 전문대로 도망쳐도 열심히 하거나 잘 하면 나중에 기회가 오더라구요.
내가 못한만큼 앞으로의 인생에서 선택할 수 있는 선택지는 조금씩 줄지만, 모든게 다 망해서 없어지는건 아닙니다.
다들 힘내세요.
2010년대도 아닐때 얘기를 ㅋㅋ
@ 같은 수능이자나~ 한잔해~
@@꽗뜵뼶콗쭀큯랁덺 치얼스!!! 97학번도 수능 봤거등여 ㅋㅋㅋ
수능날 아침은 96년도나 지금이나 여전히 춥네요~~
@@182_74보~~편적인 이야기를 하는 거잖냐. 넓게 보자고~~
@@182_74 해외 취업은 오히려 정보가 많아져서 쉬워졌죠 학벌보는 분위기도 15년전에 비하면 약해졌고
항상 음식과 연결하는게 멋져요!
여긴 돌려까기 맛집이네요~
항상 재밌게 보고있어요
As an English degree graduate, this was amazing! This is intentional deception. This is meant for the students to parse through the information, and find the core of the question to find an answer. I found this fun. It feels similar to a puzzle.
Korean exams are really similar to a puzzle.
a puzzle you need to do in limited time and your future hang on it. no fun
I find this fun too, challenging like a puzzle. However, I am 33 and I love languages, english in particular. I'm not 18 and this exam doesn't determine my future. This I think would be great in uni, majoring in english, not great as a generalised high school exam.
intentional deception? The false keys are hardly compelling lol. Obliviously it's weird that they don't do writing for such a notorious test but these answers are all reasonable. They go to court for these you know
meaning it's stupid
I tried this when I was in Korea just for fun and it feels like I needed to relearn English all over again
Lol I just saw one question and I feel the same way
:')))omg the words of encouragement were so good. Amen! Life won't end even if you make mistakes!!! It'll be ok!
Reading all the presented questions on screen I am glad that I still got most of them right even if my highschool days are decades past. But it indeed made me realize that when you aren't a student and actively studying these things rust settles in and you become a slower version of yourself that was still in school.
It's the same in Vietnam. Most of fancy things we learned will barely be put into use unless we pursue very specific fields, or higher degrees in another country, but we did learn so hard to pass the exam
I mean that’s the point right? Highly advanced tests to sort students into top universities? As far as I remember (as a fresh high school graduate, mind you), most other exams aren’t that difficult for the average student.
If you’re talking about education as a whole, then yes there’s a million different ways it can be improved. The higher education culture there is also relevant, but I’d argue the SAT (maybe not KSAT, but they are really similar from what I can see) fulfill its job well.
토닥토닥...
yup, it’s crazy and has only been getting worse due to the growing popularity of ielts. people use advanced expressions yet aren’t even remotely fluent. listening to it feels bizzare. because wdym you are out here randomly throwing in ielts 8.5 vocab while simultaneously not being able to produce a single coherent sentence without stuttering or participate in an actual fast-paced conversation? i’d rather people use simpler words and mess up the grammar, at least their language will sound lively and REAL compared to that rehearsed type of speech pattern which they clearly acquired after attending a 3 month 2mil vnd course. because most of the ‘graduates’ have no idea what they are talking about and cannot apply those skills beyond a standardized test structure. not a native english speaker or a teacher, just someone who spent 2 years in vietnam and frequented the local english clubs. although i tried to avoid speaking english in other settings and would otherwise nói tiếng việt anywhere i could
@@peculliar ideally that's what should happen in language learning. it's just that their goal of teaching eng in school is different. they don't teach english so the students are fluent in it, they're only teaching english so the students can extract information from eng papers during uni. it doesn't matter if they can't barely form a sentence during convo with eng speakers, which is a pretty common occurrence in schools throughout asia tbh. After all what's the chance of them actually having to speak with native english speakers in the first place lol
Yessssssss ✨ headmaster is back ✨
As someone who got an 8 (strong A) in English Language GCSE, and is now taking both English Language and English Literature A-Level...I'm never moving to Korea. Honestly, my takeaway from this is that you might as well be reading a collection of snippets from Masters level research papers!
Edit: I now understand that this is more to do with using English for work than actually speaking it, and that most of the questions were indeed aimed at English comprehension. Please stop correcting me lol.
this is the case for most top cities in Asia
the english papers and most other subjects ranging from history to physics are testing your skills at taking the exam rather than learning actual knowledge.
tbh as someone who has lived tht life
i dont regret or think that bad of it, it taught me discipline whilst my creative thinking side I nurtured on my own elsewhere
I'm korean...You are right... 100%.You are right...English Exam in korea..is tootootoo much hard...ㅠㅠ
This SAT is similar to the USA SAT. I am surprised the school master or whatever his title is struggling.
''you might as well be reading a collection of snippets from Masters level research papers'' That is pretty much the objective of the test. Most Koreans don't really use English that much unless you are reading legal documents, advanced textbooks, and research papers. Besides learning speaking English in like elementary and early middle school, they just concentrate on reading comprehension for the purpose I mentioned.
@@huiyoungjeong2333
It's not too hard.........it's too stupid and useless
국제 결혼한 미국인 여성이 방금 수능 영어 문제푸는 영상을 봤는데, 그 분은 만점 받았는데... 영국남자에서 보면, 쓰지 않는 영어를 시험으로 낸다고 투덜거렸는데... 여태 영국남자나 일반 원어민들이 문제 푸는 것만 보고 영어 문제를 꽤 잘못내나 보다 생각했는데...그 분은 독해력이나 이해력, 일반 회화도 적절하게 잘 냈다고 하던데... ㅋㅋㅋ 그리고 국어 원어민인 우리도 일상 국어와 시험용 국어는 달라요. 국어 원어민들도 국어시험 엄청 못 보거든요. 그리고 하는 말, 시험 문제가 엉터리야 ㅋㅋㅋ
Just love Mr Smith, what a great headmaster he is, plus he’s brilliant in all the videos
국어 비문학 영어로 번역해서 푸는것도 한번 보고싶다.... 22년 헤겔...19년 우주론 등등.,..
오히려 더 잘푸실껄요?
수능 영어는 긴 문장구조와 어휘가 더러운거지 해석본만 보면 독해 난이도가 많이 높진 않습니다.
비문학은 워낙 글이 구조적으로 거의 완벽하고 유기적으로 쓰이기 때문에 당황만 하지 않으면 문해력 높은사람들은 충분히 풀수있다고 생각합니다. 애초에 비문학은 내가 모르는 분야의 글을 얼마나 빠르고 정확하게 읽어내는지에 대한 시험이니까요. 원어민들이 수능영어 풀면 많이 어려워하지만, 그냥 국내에서 글이나 책 많이 읽은사람들 비문학 풀게하면 대부분 성적 잘나오는거랑 비슷한 원리죠.
국어는 일단 한국인이 보기에 고의로 헷갈리게 하거나 부자연스러운 문장은 안 나옴. 지문을 길게 뽑아서 속독 테스트로 변별력 만들지...
@@piter-h7o 최근 비문학은 본문이 다시 짧아지며 선지에서 보기와 같은 새로운 text에 연관시키는 과정에 힘을 주거나 비판, 강화/약화 등의 유형을 추가해 비판적 사고력이나 논리도 평가하려 하는 트렌드입니다. 당장 최고 오답률을 보인 지문 중 하나인 트리핀 딜레마/브레턴우즈 체제 (22학년도수능)도 본문 길이 자체는 그렇게 길지 않습니다
@@piter-h7o1718시절
@@piter-h7o 그건 대강 18학년도 수능까지가 마지막이라 할 수 있음. 19학년도 수능부터 해가 갈수록 점점 지문 길이는 짧게 하고 깊은 사고력과 추론 능력을 요구함. 그것의 정점이 22학년도 수능 독서
올해 저희 동생 수능보는데 응원해주세요!!
그리고 수험생분들 수능 잘 보셔서 좋은결과 있길 바라겠습니다!!
i will pray for his success
동생분 화이팅~~!!
동생 응원하는 형/누나 덕에 힘나겠어요~ 동생분 화이팅^^
동생분 수능 대박나세요!!😊🤞💚🍀❤🐞
이 시리즈를 시작한지 8년이 지났는데
한국 교육은 변한게 없음.
현재 한국 사회의 문제점(정치인들의 행태, 선거결과)은
바뀌지 않는 교육과 큰 관련이 있다고 봅니다.
지금봐도 범죄자 지켜주는 인권위랑 젠더 갈등 조장하는 여가부랑 무지성 억까충 게관위만 봐도 왜 안변하는지 알 수 있을텐데 ㅋ 그놈들의 영향력을 더 크게 민든 집단이 누굴까
코딩과 경제 과목 추가부터가 많이 바뀐거같긴함. 일본에서온 회화에 전혀 초점 1도 안둔 주입식영어교육으로 10년동안 전국민이 영어배워도 미국인이랑 한마디 못하게 하는 실패작만 좀 갈아치웠으면
영어 회화하며 외국인 친구랑 슬랭 쓰려고 영어 공부하냐? 위키 백과 영어 문장조차 해석 못하는 수준으로 학문을 한다는 건? ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
@@mathamour 드래그 복사하면 다 해석되는데 그깟 어려운 사어를 왜 알아야함? ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
We love you Smithy! Dont look at the views! YOU ARE AMAZING
Mr. Smith is one of my favorite guests you’ve ever had on KE or Jolly 😊
Aww it's been a while sir! Nice to see you again!! 😍
I've been waiting for this!!
Josh should ask Armand Cambridge friends to tries this English SAT
Also with nati and Max's friends too
Yes!!! And from a variety of majors too! I wonder if the science majors or the English majors would do better
@@punkressph1 Nahh.. just the cambridge's student. Coz i bet they will find the SAT questions is ridiculous
Especial English major in their final year
Armand would do this in his sleep
반수생인데 마지막 응원에 눈시울 붉히구 갑니다. 작수에서 영어 시간에 멘탈 완전 털리고 온 기억에 또 가서 보기가 두려운데 잘 열심히 보고 올게요.🍀 고대 가즈아🐯
꼭 원하시는 고대 가시길 바랍니다!!🙂🐯🤞🍀💚🐞❤
영국은 객관식이 없고 작문을 엄청 한다는 말, 제한시간 동안 이런 문제를 풀면 실수할 수밖에 없다는 말이 참.. 우리나라 교육 현실을 보게 하네요ㅠ
시험은 변별력이 있어야함.
그리고 수능을 작문으로 하면 객관성이 떨어져서 매해 납득못한다는 말들이 엄청 나올거임.
국민들 수준에 가장 적합한게 현재 교육
정말 기상천외한 답변이 나올 주관식에 실시간으로 대응할수있는 수준의 선생님이 없음... 객관식은 설령틀려도 이중정답 인정하고 사과하면 끝이지만 주관식은 선생님이 틀리면 골치아파지거든 ㅋㅋㅋ
@hder9 작문•논술이 변별력 없다고 누가 그러나요..? 지금도 많은 시험이 논술형 주관식으로 치러지고 있고, 각각 채점기준이 있습니다.
수학능력을 검정하는 시험을 대다수 국민이 준비하고, 응시하고, 통과해서 대학에 가는데도 많은 대졸자들이 어떤 사안에 대한 자기 의견을 논리적으로 피력할 줄도 모르고, 문해력이 뒤떨어지는 똑똑한 바보가 돼있는 게 우리 현실입니다. 객관성만을 위해 '수능'과 다소 동떨어진 수능을 유지하자고만 하는 건 어리석다고 생각합니다.
또, 국민 수준을 이야기 하시는데, 그 국민 수준이라는 건 어떻게 형성되나요? 영국 국민은 한국 국민과 어떤 태생적 차이가 있길래 다른 '수준'을 갖게 된 거죠? 그 수준이란 것은 불변하는 것이라 더 나은 수준이 되기 위한 어떤 노력도 의미가 없고 필요가 없는 것인가요?
현행 수능 찬성론은 당연히 있을 수 있지만, 말씀하신 근거들은 전혀 설득적이지 않습니다.
@@hder9 작문•논술이 변별력 없다고 누가 그러나요..? 지금도 많은 시험이 논술형 주관식으로 치러지고 있고, 각각 채점기준이 있습니다.
수학능력을 검정하는 시험을 대다수 국민이 준비하고, 응시하고, 통과해서 대학에 가는데도 많은 대졸자들이 어떤 사안에 대한 자기 의견을 논리적으로 피력할 줄도 모르고, 문해력이 뒤떨어지는 똑똑한 바보가 돼있는 게 우리 현실입니다. 객관성만을 위해 '수능'과 다소 동떨어진 수능을 유지하자고만 하는 건 어리석다고 생각합니다.
또, 국민 수준을 이야기 하시는데, 그 국민 수준이라는 건 어떻게 형성되나요? 영국 국민은 한국 국민과 어떤 태생적 차이가 있길래 다른 '수준'을 갖게 된 거죠? 그 수준이란 것은 불변하는 것이라 더 나은 수준이 되기 위한 어떤 노력도 의미가 없고 필요가 없는 것인가요?
현행 수능 찬성론은 당연히 있을 수 있지만, 말씀하신 근거들은 전혀 설득적이지 않습니다.
@@22H256D ㄴㄴ 당사자가 납득하기 어렵다는거임. 정답이 1번이면 2번3번4번 고른 사람은 틀렸다는거는 알 수 있음.
근데 작문? 논술? 수능같이 민감한 시험에서는 그런거 하다간 진짜ㅏ 대혼란 그 자체임.
그거 답이 정해짐? 상대방이 어떻게 납득할거고 수험생이 어떻게 납득할거고 부모가 어떻게 납득할건데?
대학가는 시험은 그런거임. 대한민국에선. [명확한 객관성] 이게 필요함.
By happenstance, Josh knew Dave and introduced his students to korean food and culture, their personalities and popularity earned them a trip to South Korea
Good luck and great success to all those who are taking their exams! 🤞
Great message in the end!!
수능이 얼마 안남아서 마음이 싱숭생숭했었는데 마지막 교장 선생님 응원멘트 듣고 큰 힘 얻고 갑니다. 모든 고3들 한번에 대학가자 화이팅!
Always a pleasure to watch the headmaster!!!! ❤❤
영상 잘 봤습니다. 수험생들 화이팅.
love to see headmaster's reaction 🎉🎉 been a long timeee!
You guys should do the American SAT and ACT. We take the SAT at the end of Sophomore year and the ACT around senior year. The scores on them don’t really count towards anything but colleges like when you take them as it’s a good indicator of your level. Most universities actually have a minimum SAT score that you should keep an eye on. Earning 2600 is the perfect score and schools will be clamoring for you to go them. Unfortunately very few students ever get it as maybe one every year gets it. The students that score high are usually science and English program students. Getting AP or gifted is no guarantee of doing well on those tests.
The SAT requires a lot of vocabulary skills as every year a new guide is published with new words you need to memorize and understand.
Sat perfect score is 1600 now
@ThatCasualGuy23 it's actually 2400 if you take the entire exam (800 per each subject - Reading, Math, and Writing), but by technicality most colleges and universities typically only look at the combined score between Reading and Math. So you do have a valid argument there too.
Such a great sense of humor! The students are lucky to have him! Great video!
this was a fun video! i really like the headmaster
So grateful that English wasn't even a subject I could choose, and even though I chose to do English Literature, the A levels for that was just essay writing.
We write, they read. The irony
ㅋㅋㅋ😂😅 많은 힘이 됐습니다❤
Such an inspiring headmaster!! I was lucky to have a really great headmaster in high school in England too!!❤
Josh and team, thanks for creating this video. Hopefully this brings insights to Korean Education Department.. I doubt they will change though
교장선생님 한국에 한번더 방문하셨으면 좋겠어요❤
시험을 이렇게 내니까 애들이 영어를 못하지요..... 초6중3고3대4 총 16년을 영어공부해도 영어회화 잘하는 사람이 별로 없어요. 이건 한국시험 어렵다의 문제가 아니라, 불필요한 경쟁으로 대학을 가야하는 교육시스템의 문제이고 학생들과 학부모가 피해자가 되는겁니다. 학부모, 학생은 이에 반발하고 대안을 바래야 하는데 그럼 당장 중간고사, 기말고사가 계속 되는데 언제 반발하고 있나요? 국민 모두 이런 교육시스템에 저항해야 합니다.
애초에 수능 영어랑 교육과정 영어는 영어회화 잘하라고 내는게 아님.
1. 영어라는 탈을 쓴 교과과목일뿐, 얼마나 공부를 열심히 했냐를 보는거임.
이름만 영어고 얼마나 수학공부해서 문제풀듯 얼마나 문제해결잘하냐를 보는것.
2. 수능영어, 고등영어는 대학가서 논문읽는 능력에 도움을 주는거임. 논문이나 전공서적 위주라 그런 난해한 영어 독해 능력을 키우기 좋음.
어찌보면 철저히 대학가서 필요하는 능력을 기르는거라고 볼 수 도 있음.
수능 영어는 회화, 일상용이 아닙니다. 공부하는 능력, 논문읽기 능력을 위한거에요. 회화를 잘하고 싶으면 회화 학원을 따로 가야합니다. 입시에 대해 잘 모르시네요
I used to have a university professor that gave us snacks to munch during the exam to ease anxiety and pressure. What a legend ❤
초딩때부터 보던 영국남자 몇년전부터 해오시던 수능영상이 이제는 제 이야기가 되었네요. 최선을 다하고 오겠습니다! 수능 치는 모든 학생들 다들 원하는 결과 얻으시길 바랍니다
올해는 작년보다 훨씬 수능을 응원하는 분위기가 줄어든 느낌이였는데 이렇게라도 영상을 올려서 힘을주셔서 감사드려요 수능 최선을 다해 보고올게요 !!❤
I've always been aware of the insane amount of pressure students in Asia faced when trying to get into uni, but now as I study the SQE I feel like I understand how exactly debilitating studying for exams that are designed to trip you up are 😭
"When you look at what success is later on in life, you might describe success in different ways." Koreans define 'success' in such an identical way and that makes young students suffer. Your word is the one that korean students need to be taught at school😭 As a korean who take korean SAT next week, I'll try my best ‘success ' in the way I want.
교장쌤 지문읽는 목소리가 꼭 네셔널지오그래픽 나레이션같아요ㅎㅎ 좋으다
I give Dave 💯for personality and charm and always being ready for anything❣
i love your video! hope jolly videos related to korea would come up…
I used to work at a 5-star resort reception, and we had Korean and Japanese staffs too because we have plenty of Korean and Japanese tourists coming in. Every end of the month, our Front Office Manager made us do a write-up about something we experienced that month; it could be about anything in regards to work. It could be a long or short write-up (depends on us) and it was an outlet for us to rant about work so we loved doing it. However, our only Korean staff, Ms. Ji Hye (but she prefers being called Kelly), absolutely hated it because in her own words she "don't know how to write essay". She can speak English fairly fluently, but in terms of writing something on her own accord from zero (without a prompt like how conversations do), she blanks out completely. She told us that at school, they weren't taught creative and critical thinking when it comes to the English Language. And by watching this video, I kinda get what she meant by that. It all feels very technical and robotic to me.
Whenever I hear about these types of exams, I can only think that it'd make me want to study abroad. Learn English well enough to do one of these, be decent in math, and you're going to be able to get a high score on the SAT and ACT exams in the U.S. and get into a mid- to high-tier school, probably with scholarships. No idea how it is in UK schools, but I'd imagine with good academic records it'd be doable. Not to mention whatever other countries one might be interested in throughout the world.
It's for korean, but it's crazy that it's determined which university they can go 😅
와 정말 오랜만에 배속하지 않고 천천히 잘 봤습니다. 넘 좋은 영상 감사합니다.
Great advice Mr. Smith. This is why you are so beloved by your students.
오모나..교장 선생님 정말 반가워요😊😊😊
고3 수험생인데 모든 문제를 1분 2분 안에 풀진 않아요 듣기때 미리 풀어논것도 있어서 (전 듣기때 12개 정도 풀어놈)
빠르면 뭐 30초도 걸리지만 어려운건 3 4분 넘게 소요할 때도 있어요
그리고 영어가 워낙 어렵다보니 대부분의 대학교들이 1등급하고 2등급에 점수차이를 얼마 안둬요
다른 과목이 훨씬 대학에 영향을 미치죠 영어보단
데이브쌤은 2등급은 나오실듯 수능 영어에 익숙해지면 올해 6모급 정도 아닌이상 1 2정돈 잘 나올만 하죠
오랜만에 수능편이네요.
수시1학기 합격으로 대학교에 간 바람에(05학번) 수능시험에 응시하지 않았지만 언제 봐도 수능영어는 정말 뭐같은 거 같습니다.
어쨌든 이번에 수능시험에 응시하시는 모든 수험생분들이 좋은 성적을 얻기를 기원합니다.
@@user-se4ev5wi3b 왤케 화났노. 이분한테 뭔 얻어터졌음? ㅋㅋ
@@user-se4ev5wi3b 실질적으로 대학 학부 생활에서 원어 논문 자체를 읽을 일도 많이 없는 것 같은데 교재 원서라면 모를까
그렇다고 시험을 폐급수준에 맞게 내야겠냐@@제이한
@@user-se4ev5wi3b뭐에 긁혀서 이러는거요
@@blablabla69005학번이면 지금 40대인데 그나이처먹고 씹덕질하는 폐급이 뭔가 깨우친것마냥 입터는건 빡치긴 함 ㅋㅋ
와 근데 교장쌤 완전 잘하시는데요??? 지금까지 본 수능 시리즈 중 가장 잘하시는듯!!
재미있는 콘텐츠를 볼수있어서 좋습니다! 앞으로도 영상 올려주세용
6:58 What the crap even is the “almighty cyberspace” lmao 😂😂😂😂😂
오 지금보는중인데 교장쌤답게 초반엔 계속맞추시는데요? ....하다가 이제 조금씩 틀리기시작하심
근데 잘하시네요ㅎ 지금까지 수능영어문제푼 게스트들중 제일잘하신것같아요.
영국입시도 흥미롭네요 의대가려면 다른시험도봐야하는군요
Wow.. It's been a long time Mr. Smith.😆😆☺️
I loved this video so much! I wish you'd shown all 15 questions onscreen so I could try answering all of them. I had to pause the video because it takes me longer to read from a laptop screen than from a tablet or paper, but I'm tickled that I missed only one of the onscreen questions. Untangling the convoluted questions tests cognitive acumen rather than rote learning. It was interesting to see how the wording of the questions reinforced messages about being a successful Korean citizen. It is the same patriotic-propaganda approach used in the American public education system. Having recently watched the English "schoolboys" train with the Korean military made this stand out to me. Excellent video. I enjoyed it a great deal.
교장선생님이 너무 사랑스러우시네요. 따뜻한 말씀 감사합니다. ㅎㅎㅎ 한국에 놀러오시면 좋겠어요. 😊
As a guy who did really bad in SAT way back when and got rejected in most universities I applied to, I understand how big this is for Korean students. But I would echo what Mr. Smith said at the end - failure in the exam does not define who you are. I hope more students will take on this mindset and when they get to the marketplace and take on decision making positions, they will bring about the change in Korea's view of CSAT as well as how the test is put together - for the betterment of the next generation of exam takers and Korea's education system in general. Seriously, those CSAT problems are outrageous - it feels more like an entrance test for those seeking management consulting jobs in McKinsey or Deloitte. It is just not fair for most of those kids.
all the questions shown on the screen are actually really simple. It's like they said, trick questions almost. simply to test your concentration. Also funnily, i find the English in this actual paper not consistent. If i'm not mistaken, I think Korean follows American english conventions, but then, in one question shown, there was like 'recognise' with a 's' rather than a 'z'. that really stood out to me. also some sentences, it feels very google translate-ish. It's so Korean in its sentence structure. idk if you get what I'm explaining.
한국의 수능 출제방향은 종합적인 사고력을 측정하는 겁니다. 영어 시험 조차도 그렇습니다. 저 지문들은 영어로 쓰여진 대학교 수준의 전공 개론서 수준에서 발췌한 것이고 너무 어려운 단어만 일부 쉬운 것으로 교체했습니다. 고난도 문제는 대학원 수준일 수도 있습니다. 저렇게 어렵게 출제해도 대부분 좋은 성적을 얻습니다.그리고 한국교육부는 영국영어 미국영어 모두를 인정합니다. 그러니 어휘에 대한 표기가 영국식이든 미국식이든 문제 없습니다. 그리고 이 시험 문제들은 박사학위가 있는 여러명의 영어 원어민들의 최종 점검을 거친겁니다. 한국 수능 영어 문제는 단지 생활영어를 잘한다고 좋은 점수를 얻을 수 있는 문제가 아닙니다. 영어 독해 실력 외에 추론 능력 같은 사고력이 좋아야 합니다. 저런 정도의 문제를 1분에 한 문제씩 풀어야 합니다. 빨리 푸는 것도 사고력과 관련이 있습니다. 한국의 수능은 머리 좋은 사람을 뽑는 문제고 그렇게 뽑힌 인재들이 각 분야에서 좋은 실적을 내서 오늘날의 한국을 만든 겁니다. 머리가 나쁘면 영어사전을 주고 시험을 보게해도 좋은 점수를 내지 못합니다. 난 한국의 수능 영어 시험문제를 열렬히 지지하는 사람입니다. 참 좋은 지문들이고 높은 수준의 책을 읽을 수 있는 능력이 없으면 영어 사전을 주고 풀라고 해도 못 푸는 문제들입니다. 한국의 수능은 사고력이 좋은 사람을 골라내는 시험이고 그런 면에서 변별력이 아주 좋은 문제들입니다.
@@yonggheelee1743 as a native English speaker, I actually find all the sample questions shown in this video to be quite simple. The grammar question in the video for example, sounds confounding at first, but if you really look at it, it's honestly a simple elementary grammar question. Though it is true i agree the exam seems to use a lot of obselete, niche, technical jargons and that could be challenging if English isn't your first language. I just feel these are very simple questions, at least by my standards. But it was interesting to see the sort of English being tested at a college entrance exam level in a country where English isn't the first language.
english isn't my first language and I agree
한국 수능에서 영어시험만이라도 공인영어 시험으로 대체되어야 한다고 생각합니다!
초등학교 2학년 때부터 꾸준히 봐왔는데, 내년에 성인이라니 감회가 새롭네요.. 선물 개봉기가 제 최애인데, 성인이 되어서도 계속 응원하겠습니다. 제 유튜브 생활을 항상 즐겁게 해주셔서 감사해요 조쉬 !!
As a 53-year-old neurodivergent who wants to do my PGCE to become a teacher. I am currently studying to do my GCSE's in English and maths, and I have to say that studying for those 2 GCSE's, is far harder than when I did my master's degree.
Hope you succeed sir!
Finally after waiting for years ❤
13:07 wise words from a wise man, an inspiration
Mr Smith is the best Headmaster/Dean/Principal I've ever seen
Those questions gave me flashbacks to the SAT/ACT/AP English tests lol
It was kinda fun trying to guess the answers alongside Mr. Smith
Every time you guys do this type of video... I wonder what craziness it brings. Gosh!!! I don't even know some of the words.
아니 교장쌤은 역시 좀 치시네요 사회생활로 다져진 서류 스킬