Like MB makes special DEF... use any brand, just look on the label and ensure it meets the DEF ISO 2224 spec, which is specified in the MB owners manual. I haven’t seen any brands that don’t meet the spec. The service advisor needs to go to school...you need those hiway trips to ensure the particulate filter has the opportunity to regenerate properly..
Glad I know how to look after my 20 plus year old Mercedes sprinter as these new vehicles are getting more stupid by the day, Zero DPF, zero EGR valve, zero Auto gearbox It costs cheaper to keep old vehicles going.
Good information to be aware of. The “Magnuson-Moss Warranty-Federal Trade Commission Improvement Act” is a Federal law, US Code, Title 15 § 2301, Public Law 93-637. President Gerald Ford signed it into law on January 4, 1975. It covers aftermarket auto parts in these ways:
My 2017 Sprinter 3500 has a DEF level “gauge” showing on the display between the Tach and Speedometer. You just push the up arrow on the steering wheel when it is in the mode that shows trip info (elapsed time, overall mph, and overall mpg). The gauge itself looks like a blowing cloud. When it gets to the 1/4 DEF level it also sends a message to the display to add DEF soon. Seems to be a very simple system that works well. The other way to avoid excessive service costs is to do a lot of your maintenance yourself - change oil and filter before 10000 miles, change your air filter and replace your fuel filter regularly.
You can cancel out the 8-10 re-starts count down meter. All by unplugging a wire under the dash. Mercedes couldn’t get my van in so we had to figure something out. Do some TH-cam searches, there’s a guy outside the United States on TH-cam that shows this. I don’t suggest this by anyway but it got us back in motion before we got it fixed.
What do you do if there’s no highway where you live? I live on st thomas, a small island in the Caribbean. Never realized all this stuff before I bought it. Ugh
Best tip to keep engine repair costs down is to ignore Mercedes suggested service intervals and change oil and oil filter every 5000 miles. Wal-Mart Super Tech DEF meets API standards so it is safe to use and cheaper too. I would say fuel filter change every 10000 miles. Yeah, oil in diesel engines turns black quicker than in gas engines because of soot, so why wait to change your oil at Mercedes suggested intervals. And since most Sprinters now have EPF’s and require DEF use the correct oil that meets MB requirements - like Mobil1 ESP 5W-30.
Hi, I love your videos ..great job !!!!, I have a 2016 sprinter 2500 2.1 4 cylinders. I just had the transmission oil replaced and they put 5.8 qts. I was reading I'll need 8qts of transmission fluid nit 5.8. Please can you tell me if I need to add more fluid ???? Thanks
Why is my EGR valve always sooting up and causing transmission shifting issues? From day one. I have a 2022 six cylinder diesel sprinter and it has been in the shop at least 5 times. The longest was for 3.5 months.
Good Morning Van. I plan to do quite a bit of highway driving in my van, but if I don't go on a long drive for a while what is a good rule of thumb for the number of miles or minutes/hours I should drive my vehicle on the highway a few times per month? Also, what is the usage amount of blue fluid I could expect to use driving around 10-20 thousand miles per year? Thanks.
I just programmed my scangauge 2 to show DEF level in my 2015 Sprinter! What happens if the fuel tank is accidentally filled with 15 gallons of b20 biodiesel?
I did not realize and I put a tank of B20 Diesel in my Mercedes Sprinter Van Will that create any problems or what should I do after that tank is empty Should I just put regular diesel 2 in afterwards what is better to operate is there a cleaning product that I need to run through Please respond
This is why I did not replace my old sprinter and will not buy any newer merc. The price of just entering a merc dealer is just outrageous. 500-600 for a simple oil change with no fault codes is f’n nuts.
I have a question for you Van Bae when I get my MB Sprinter 15 passenger Van 🚐 how often should I clean the EGR Valve? Should I do that myself or come into service? I know it’s not exactly a difficult clean but does MB allow owners to clean the EGR Valve on their own or could it void the warranty? Thanks
2017 is getting close to the third service, (40,000 miles) What should be included on the service and about how much will be a decent cost? My first two services were free but this one I had to pay for 🤔 Maybe you can do a video about that 😜
$150 for an air cleaner $7,000 in maintenance and nothing's wrong with my vehicle Vehicles not worth 7,000 now that Mercedes got sued for cheating on the smog my vehicle's worth half of what it used to be thank you Mercedes for lying to everyone largest payout to the EPA ever in history
Actually, DPF was at 100%, I got on highway and left in a lower gear to get rpm up to 2500 and the regen did start and got it down to zero. A concern I have is I do not see the Def fluid gage going down at all. Should the DEF be getting used? I have burned about a thankful of diesel since I got it. Thanks for your help
Which scan tool works with the 907 (2019 and later) Sprinter? Bought the iCarsoft MB 3.0 and it's useless. Can't seem to find the right scan tool. Any suggestions?
Lol, thank you to the engineers that came up with this design. High value van with all these requirements??? These are not normal maintenances. Please drive on the highway for no reason at all and burn money to make sure the soot dissipates. My friend had a Land Rover with same requirements and he drives on the highway and still the soot does not dissipates. Im sticking with a Ford Transit.
Do Not Buy A Sprinter Diesel Or any Mercedes Benz.... Most MB dealerships will not honor the warranty.... Most times the dealership will blame the customer(owner of car/van). Just like VAN BAE does in all videos. Some customer faults in this video "wrong def" "not right mixture" "wrong fluid" "to low level" once they blame the customer the dealership will try to charge you thousands of dollars for a repair that should be covered under the warranty. Their "Technicians" are only part changers Remember buyer beware and that is never more true when dealing with Mercedes Benz
Look at the introduction page of the service/maintenance booklet. It explains that IF You use outside products, get it checked by an authorized Sprinter dealer to approve the work so that it DOESN'T affect the warranty claim and less probability of claims being denied. Take a look at this snippet from the service booklet: Service documents Confirmation that the service and maintenance work has been carried out is entered in the Maintenance Booklet. No other repair work that may have been per‐ formed on your vehicle is recorded or documented alongside the listed service and maintenance work in this Maintenance Booklet. For this rea‐son, keep evidence of this together with your vehicle's documents. So again, for better clarification: IF you take it outside authorized dealer, make sure you have records and are using ONLY MB approved parts. Thank you again and sorry for your bad experience. Please call me for your service needs.
Ya the whole “anything other than dealer DEF is sworn against” is bs. Make sure it meets specification and that the ratio is 32.5%/67.5% split and that’s all you need
@@VanBae but the gas has so much more benefits. Less costs of maintenance, no diesel headaches. Pump gas anywhere. I can idle for a long period of time. No DEF worries, no 400 oil changes. Don't have to carry the def water around. And winter is crazy here in minnesota. Is the diesel engine better than the gas engine? I just need real answers lol. Not sales answers thx for the help lol
@@sin4459 I would agree with that. BUt the gas may only last 150k miles vs diesel over 500k miles so the cost of ownership difference will out weigh by length of time for ownership. Also, service interval is 15k gas and 20k diesel
Why would Mercedes not put it in Decatur on the dash there's a sensor in the tank you're supposed to overfill it every time you check it boy Mercedes wasn't thinking makes you wonder about what else they weren't thinking about
Its only a matter of time... You will have extremely high maintenance costs one day or another, after being stuck in limp mode in the middle of nowhere
Hi! I would say any speed over 20 for an hour straight once a week or if you’re driving the highway daily or a few days a week 30 min or so that’s good to. The goal is to avoid the stop and go frequently and 0 Highway or long distance open road driving
Why am I watching this? Oh I know, It was just a dream and special DEF fluid begets stealth disrespect from Sprinter dealers (not Mercedes dealers) as Sprinters are even more removed as a normal work vehicle. Ford Transit, Do me, baby, in the morning, you can do me in the night, just do me. I will Transit.
Overheat the DPF…. Lol that’s a Mercedes service adviser.. and all the overheated nox sensors lol… if he only knew that def nozzle is down stream of DPF and is completely two separate systems. 😂
I have been watching all these Mercedes interviews mechanic reviews and you actually if you buy one of these vehicles have to become a mechanic you’re in your engine filling up all of these little fluids time and time again and if you mess it up this van locks you out or you’re cruising on the highway at 5 miles an hour what a waste of money I mean almost $50-$75,000 or more for one of these reject vans. Sorry but not interested in buying one after all.
2018 Mercedes Benz diesel And it’s getting completely deleted Def Dpf and egr it should run like a champ without all that government California bullshit on it
Go to deal and empty your pockets. You will pay car one more time is 10 years of service... Learn all stuff and do it yourself and save the money. There lots of Sprinters that are on the road and non Mercedes serviced and are ok.
I have fact checked it, tell me what information is incorrect? I can also guide you to the part in the service manual and warranty manual that can better explain.
"Drive some on the hiway"! "make sure you put in hiway miles"......uhhhhh HOW FAR OVER WHAT TIME HOW LONG!!????? Otherwise that information is useless.
Like MB makes special DEF... use any brand, just look on the label and ensure it meets the DEF ISO 2224 spec, which is specified in the MB owners manual. I haven’t seen any brands that don’t meet the spec. The service advisor needs to go to school...you need those hiway trips to ensure the particulate filter has the opportunity to regenerate properly..
😂😂 usually service advisors in every dealers are useless,and they are lying to the customers
Glad I know how to look after my 20 plus year old Mercedes sprinter as these new vehicles are getting more stupid by the day, Zero DPF, zero EGR valve, zero Auto gearbox It costs cheaper to keep old vehicles going.
PLEASE TOYOTA AND/OR HONDA GIVE US A CARGO/PASS VAN!!!!
Lol
toyota take my money lol
Lol
LOL
Omg, I have been asking the same question. When will toyota put the cargo van on the market. I know other countries have.But we need them here too.
I am looking to be a new m-benz sprinter owner and this is the sort of information I need.
Good information to be aware of. The “Magnuson-Moss Warranty-Federal Trade Commission Improvement Act” is a Federal law, US Code, Title 15 § 2301, Public Law 93-637. President Gerald Ford signed it into law on January 4, 1975.
It covers aftermarket auto parts in these ways:
I like these vans but I feel like it can still be made more complicated
My 2017 Sprinter 3500 has a DEF level “gauge” showing on the display between the Tach and Speedometer. You just push the up arrow on the steering wheel when it is in the mode that shows trip info (elapsed time, overall mph, and overall mpg). The gauge itself looks like a blowing cloud. When it gets to the 1/4 DEF level it also sends a message to the display to add DEF soon. Seems to be a very simple system that works well. The other way to avoid excessive service costs is to do a lot of your maintenance yourself - change oil and filter before 10000 miles, change your air filter and replace your fuel filter regularly.
Geez, point 2 is why I do my own maintenance
Thanks for your videos! They are super helpful since I just bought a 2012 Great West Sprinter Legend!
Great video and super great advice. Never had a problem with my sprinter. Stayed on course with the service.
What model is u sprinter sir ?
You can cancel out the 8-10 re-starts count down meter. All by unplugging a wire under the dash. Mercedes couldn’t get my van in so we had to figure something out. Do some TH-cam searches, there’s a guy outside the United States on TH-cam that shows this. I don’t suggest this by anyway but it got us back in motion before we got it fixed.
Bae, wanna talk about the bluetec class action and how Mercedes cheated and scammed us for all the charges for services we do not actually need?
What do you do if there’s no highway where you live? I live on st thomas, a small island in the Caribbean. Never realized all this stuff before I bought it. Ugh
Just drive a lot at the same period of time!
Best tip to keep engine repair costs down is to ignore Mercedes suggested service intervals and change oil and oil filter every 5000 miles. Wal-Mart Super Tech DEF meets API standards so it is safe to use and cheaper too. I would say fuel filter change every 10000 miles. Yeah, oil in diesel engines turns black quicker than in gas engines because of soot, so why wait to change your oil at Mercedes suggested intervals. And since most Sprinters now have EPF’s and require DEF use the correct oil that meets MB requirements - like Mobil1 ESP 5W-30.
Agreed on more frequent oil changes. I bought the MB 5W-30 229.52 spec oil because it was priced lower than some other brands.
So why can’t I piss in the thing and do the same thing?
Hi, I love your videos ..great job !!!!, I have a 2016 sprinter 2500 2.1 4 cylinders. I just had the transmission oil replaced and they put 5.8 qts. I was reading I'll need 8qts of transmission fluid nit 5.8. Please can you tell me if I need to add more fluid ????
Thanks
They may have flushed some and added new to old if it wasn’t dirty
Do you have a multi function steering wheel
Call the service shop and ask if they drained the torque converter. At the MB in Georgetown, TX, they don't drain the torque converter.
Thats a great service you just gave there. The very best of luck to you guys..
Thank you so much Paul! I really appreciate it. I am making more videos and would love to hear if you have any suggestions, questions or comments!
Actually, my 2017 Sprinter class C had a def gauge in the instrument cluster.
Yes! If you have a multifunction steering wheel from 2013-2018 or previous years after 2009
@@VanBae my 2017 Sprinter did not have the multifunction steering wheel, yet still had the def gauge in the instrument panel.
Why is my EGR valve always sooting up and causing transmission shifting issues? From day one. I have a 2022 six cylinder diesel sprinter and it has been in the shop at least 5 times. The longest was for 3.5 months.
@@adampajcz8719 that’s not surprising but it could be a multitude of reasons. Driving in city?
@@VanBae City and highway. Is this common?
@@adampajcz8719 yes 👍
Good Morning Van. I plan to do quite a bit of highway driving in my van, but if I don't go on a long drive for a while what is a good rule of thumb for the number of miles or minutes/hours I should drive my vehicle on the highway a few times per month? Also, what is the usage amount of blue fluid I could expect to use driving around 10-20 thousand miles per year? Thanks.
Yes an hr or two every 2 weeks or so should keep you out of service! Where do you live? Looking at 4 or 6
P20f5 is the code any helpful tip. Can I drive 3 more days before service
Great tips. But still expect a high cost of ownership with these.
I just programmed my scangauge 2 to show DEF level in my 2015 Sprinter! What happens if the fuel tank is accidentally filled with 15 gallons of b20 biodiesel?
I did not realize and I put a tank of B20 Diesel in my Mercedes Sprinter Van Will that create any problems or what should I do after that tank is empty Should I just put regular diesel 2 in afterwards what is better to operate is there a cleaning product that I need to run through Please respond
Do you recommend draining the def and refilling every two years if you dont use your vehicle much?
Van Bae!
You guys are the best!!!!
Thank you very much for the info!!👍🏽
Thank you!!! Another video coming next week!!
@@VanBae
Can’t wait for it!🙂
@@angelbravo781 its up! thank you for following me !
@@VanBae
Of course!🤙🏽
This is why I did not replace my old sprinter and will not buy any newer merc. The price of just entering a merc dealer is just outrageous. 500-600 for a simple oil change with no fault codes is f’n nuts.
Thank you both. Good tips.
Can you touch on engine tunes for these vans kerma and rentech?!? Please
My 2017 can show you the level of the DEF By pressing the M at the dash couple of times
Yes now the new ones have it standard!
I have a question for you Van Bae when I get my MB Sprinter 15 passenger Van 🚐 how often should I clean the EGR Valve? Should I do that myself or come into service? I know it’s not exactly a difficult clean but does MB allow owners to clean the EGR Valve on their own or could it void the warranty? Thanks
I would try it yourself! Then once a year at least let a dealer touch it to stay ok with warranty. Did you order one?
Who would be able to help with a def delete? Asking for a friend
2017 is getting close to the third service, (40,000 miles) What should be included on the service and about how much will be a decent cost? My first two services were free but this one I had to pay for 🤔
Maybe you can do a video about that 😜
Sorry!
My best advice don't buy a def vehicle
$150 for an air cleaner $7,000 in maintenance and nothing's wrong with my vehicle Vehicles not worth 7,000 now that Mercedes got sued for cheating on the smog my vehicle's worth half of what it used to be thank you Mercedes for lying to everyone largest payout to the EPA ever in history
Do you recommend doing a forced regen and if so how often
Yes every month
And how to you force a regen? I am a new owner , a couple of weeks, of a used 2022 MB 2500 sprinter.
Actually, DPF was at 100%, I got on highway and left in a lower gear to get rpm up to 2500 and the regen did start and got it down to zero. A concern I have is I do not see the Def fluid gage going down at all. Should the DEF be getting used? I have burned about a thankful of diesel since I got it. Thanks for your help
This was very helpful. Thanks
Thank you for sharing good information
Are you thinking of getting one?
I already have a Sprinter. The DEF light came on and they charged me $320.00 just to take off the light from the dashboard.
Mt 2016 shows the DEF level on the dash.
Which scan tool works with the 907 (2019 and later) Sprinter? Bought the iCarsoft MB 3.0 and it's useless. Can't seem to find the right scan tool. Any suggestions?
I never saw your message I apologize! Hope it worked out
I’m weighing the cost of a sprinter based class C as to a ford Based chassis Tiffin makes a class C on the ford
@@stevest.martin3940 get the sprinter!
Good stuff that I did not know!👍
1:40
Wrong.
2019-2022 have new type SONAR DEF gauge and you can keep DEF not full tank
Lol, thank you to the engineers that came up with this design. High value van with all these requirements??? These are not normal maintenances. Please drive on the highway for no reason at all and burn money to make sure the soot dissipates. My friend had a Land Rover with same requirements and he drives on the highway and still the soot does not dissipates. Im sticking with a Ford Transit.
Contrary to the claim made in this video, the 2018 Sprinter chassis does havwe a DEF gauge in the instrument cluster.
It does with a multi functional steering wheel
Strongly agree 👌🏻
Thank you for the information. Subscribed. ❤
Do Not Buy A Sprinter Diesel Or any Mercedes Benz.... Most MB dealerships will not honor the warranty.... Most times the dealership will blame the customer(owner of car/van). Just like VAN BAE does in all videos. Some customer faults in this video "wrong def" "not right mixture" "wrong fluid" "to low level" once they blame the customer the dealership will try to charge you thousands of dollars for a repair that should be covered under the warranty. Their "Technicians" are only part changers Remember buyer beware and that is never more true when dealing with Mercedes Benz
Look at the introduction page of the service/maintenance booklet. It explains that IF You use outside products, get it checked by an authorized Sprinter dealer to approve the work so that it DOESN'T affect the warranty claim and less probability of claims being denied. Take a look at this snippet from the service booklet:
Service documents
Confirmation that the service and maintenance work has been carried out is entered in the Maintenance Booklet. No other repair work that may have been per‐
formed on your vehicle is recorded or documented alongside the listed service and maintenance work in this Maintenance Booklet. For this rea‐son, keep evidence of this together with your vehicle's documents.
So again, for better clarification: IF you take it outside authorized dealer, make sure you have records and are using ONLY MB approved parts. Thank you again and sorry for your bad experience. Please call me for your service needs.
Mercedes sprinter Are garbage 100% true. Cost $$$$ for stupid repairs
Look up the resale value and cost of ownership after 10 years to a Ford, it’s actually the best van on the market
That is it??
Thank you guys. Great video.
In short STAY AWAY FROM DIESEL.
Is BlueDEF okay for 2021 Sprinter?
Yes
Thanks for the info!
Thank you!!!
You have a new subscriber by the way!
Thank you!!!
Ya the whole “anything other than dealer DEF is sworn against” is bs. Make sure it meets specification and that the ratio is 32.5%/67.5% split and that’s all you need
What you think about the gas version and using it at a courier driving up to 300 miles a day and payload up to 3000 here and there.
I would do diesel
@@VanBae but the gas has so much more benefits. Less costs of maintenance, no diesel headaches. Pump gas anywhere. I can idle for a long period of time. No DEF worries, no 400 oil changes. Don't have to carry the def water around. And winter is crazy here in minnesota. Is the diesel engine better than the gas engine? I just need real answers lol. Not sales answers thx for the help lol
That’s VERY true 😃
@@sin4459 I would agree with that. BUt the gas may only last 150k miles vs diesel over 500k miles so the cost of ownership difference will out weigh by length of time for ownership. Also, service interval is 15k gas and 20k diesel
oh and also, diesel gets you better mileage by about 100 miles per tank, and the tank is 2 gallons more :)
Why are DEF only in USA vehicles ?
The government regulates it here since 2009 American petroleum Institute and OSHA but it’s not all states,
They are worldwide. In other countries they call it AdBlue.
@@atx-cvpi_99 Adblue isn’t law in Ireland
This country they call it adblue also, it’s just not required like it is here in the usa
@@VanBae This country?
Why would Mercedes not put it in Decatur on the dash there's a sensor in the tank you're supposed to overfill it every time you check it boy Mercedes wasn't thinking makes you wonder about what else they weren't thinking about
The video is about AVOIDANCE!
Very helpful video👏
Do you have one?
Yes,I do,I have 2 316 CDI (2015),very good vans
Shit toyota don't make their version of sprinter or I'll jump on it. I guarantee you it would be 100 times less complicated than this.
Lol, May be true but Daimler has the number one engine.
Its only a matter of time... You will have extremely high maintenance costs one day or another, after being stuck in limp mode in the middle of nowhere
Supper information Thenks.. so I never buy sprinter..
Lol, buy one, just maintain it!
What speed , how long and miles should I do a Highway drive? Thanks
Hi! I would say any speed over 20 for an hour straight once a week or if you’re driving the highway daily or a few days a week 30 min or so that’s good to. The goal is to avoid the stop and go frequently and 0 Highway or long distance open road driving
OR just rip the whole engine gearbox out and put an old Toyota diesel drivetrain in.
ISO 22241 is the proper specification for DEF. Straight from my 2021 sprinter owners manual.
Got it! Trade for gas engine.
Lol bet.
“Never have any problems “ until the DEF pump crystallises and stops working
Carbon buildup because you put some bs system on it to choke the engine out. The carbons not going out the tail pipe so it has to go
Somewhere
What is DEF?
Diesel exhaust fluid
@@VanBae is that the stuff we call Adblue in UK? Filler is just above diesel filler cap
Restarted your film and u answered my question. Thank you
No idea! I can find out if you did not yet
Thank uuuuuuu
How to avoid high service costs for sprinter . Don’t buy a sprinter buy a ford transit instead.
I would never have this problem on my BMW like BMWs never left me stranded my Mercedes has left me stranded over and over and over again
So many parts defectively made from Mercedes Bi-County list all of them
Just get ford transit Gas..
Well this makes us not Wana buy one all this talk of $$$$$ also being rural
Why am I watching this? Oh I know, It was just a dream and special DEF fluid begets stealth disrespect from Sprinter dealers (not Mercedes dealers) as Sprinters are even more removed as a normal work vehicle. Ford Transit, Do me, baby, in the morning, you can do me in the night, just do me. I will Transit.
Overheat the DPF…. Lol that’s a Mercedes service adviser.. and all the overheated nox sensors lol… if he only knew that def nozzle is down stream of DPF and is completely two separate systems. 😂
I have been watching all these Mercedes interviews mechanic reviews and you actually if you buy one of these vehicles have to become a mechanic you’re in your engine filling up all of these little fluids time and time again and if you mess it up this van locks you out or you’re cruising on the highway at 5 miles an hour what a waste of money I mean almost $50-$75,000 or more for one of these reject vans. Sorry but not interested in buying one after all.
2018 Mercedes Benz diesel
And it’s getting completely deleted Def
Dpf and egr it should run like a champ without all that government California bullshit on it
She's cute. Good info too
Nice vehicle as long as you have lots and lots of money to keep it up you should be fine.
Go to deal and empty your pockets. You will pay car one more time is 10 years of service... Learn all stuff and do it yourself and save the money. There lots of Sprinters that are on the road and non Mercedes serviced and are ok.
What do you mean?
whoo hooo!!
Hence, I like gassers myself...
Another title for this could be, “Reasons to never buy a post 2006 diesel of any brand…
30 seconds to get on with it
What do you mean?
DEF system scary…buy an extended warranty…
To many rules. F that BS
Dan's not trustworthy Community stranded for multiple reasons hundreds of reasons it can leave you stranded
Sorry, but checking with MB service in my area your information is not accurate. Please fact check your content before publication.
I have fact checked it, tell me what information is incorrect? I can also guide you to the part in the service manual and warranty manual that can better explain.
Lets sum this all up. Don’t buy a diesel RV engine
Or just DELETE like I did on my 2019 Sprinter with 406k miles and dont deal with this government and dealer advices that will make you go bankrupt lol
Definitely an option!
pls mercedes just close your factory.... money pit.
"Drive some on the hiway"! "make sure you put in hiway miles"......uhhhhh HOW FAR OVER WHAT TIME HOW LONG!!????? Otherwise that information is useless.
Just delete it wtf
#1 delete your van #2 enjoy
Best way to avoid a huge service on your Mercedes diesel sprinter is don't get a Mercedes diesel sprinter
All myths
Why is this young boy talking about van maintenance?