QUAD Jumps on Channel One Trophy - Alexandra Trusova, Kamila Valieva, Anna Shcherbakova Analysis

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  • Here an analysis of the ladies quads and the trophy, looking if the jumps and edges are clean, and seeing who got the highest goe, who did the best quad ?
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  • @WeLoveSkating1
    @WeLoveSkating1  3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Which Quad was your favorite ?

    • @Elena-tr1zu
      @Elena-tr1zu 3 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      Kamila!

    • @liceous
      @liceous 3 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      kamila 4T but i also love trusova's backloaded 4T, both are extremely extremely impressive

    • @nenavujicin7882
      @nenavujicin7882 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      Kamila !

    • @giuliamogliani5020
      @giuliamogliani5020 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      Kamila’s 4T

    • @doraziyanchen
      @doraziyanchen 3 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      I know everyone is going to say Kamila's 4T, but Sashas quads are my favorite. I wish she could've landed the lutz, but her 4T comeback was so good.

  • @katiejacksonsmith8850
    @katiejacksonsmith8850 3 ปีที่แล้ว +108

    ok but can we talk about sasha adding that 4T in the second half of her programme that was such a moment for me

  • @alyssat5028
    @alyssat5028 3 ปีที่แล้ว +375

    Kamila's second 4toe was the best I've ever seen!! She was perfect in the air and it was huge!! The points were deserved.

    • @drogosdragoon8879
      @drogosdragoon8879 3 ปีที่แล้ว +68

      Can’t tell the same with Anna’s 4Flutz < + 4.60 Goe ...

    • @zubrowska9017
      @zubrowska9017 3 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      Blade assistance

    • @iris7484
      @iris7484 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      I wish her take off was a little more crisp but that's splitting hairs in this field. She's making it work and the height, distance, air position is spectacular, super clean all the way around.

    • @zubrowska9017
      @zubrowska9017 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@iris7484 she’s supposed to make it work with proper technique. Rather than cheating her way through a jump because it’s easier

    • @iris7484
      @iris7484 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@zubrowska9017 I feel ya but she's 14 and that's how she was taught to do it.

  • @brian5619
    @brian5619 3 ปีที่แล้ว +494

    Sasha's ability to add a triple sal after a hand-down landing is absolutely amazing. However Anna geting positive GOE for her hand-down triple floop is asinine.

    • @reginavabre
      @reginavabre 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Judges rescored her technical points, she lost 3 points (94,83 -> 91,59).
      It seems like it was a penalty for ice touching and lutz-loop cascade.

    • @Aminok.2019
      @Aminok.2019 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Это ты Глупость а она чемпионка

    • @ari44478
      @ari44478 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      ​@@Aminok.2019А если бы она не была чемпионка, что ты бы сказал, а?

    • @alexander28110
      @alexander28110 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ​@@Aminok.2019Поэтому и "чемпионка", что ей всегда завышали баллы.

    • @ArinaAloeva
      @ArinaAloeva 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@Aminok.2019Вот поэтому её и считают грибовой чемпионкой, а не самой сильной.

  • @dr.arnoldibarretajayme812
    @dr.arnoldibarretajayme812 3 ปีที่แล้ว +90

    Kamila Valieva's 2nd Quad Toe

  • @anaespiral3265
    @anaespiral3265 3 ปีที่แล้ว +191

    Unfair Anna's GOEs, although I adore her. It's outrageous!

    • @user-hp4qr4kh4o
      @user-hp4qr4kh4o 3 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      It is unfair for Sasha, although her quarter jump is not stable, but she is hardworking to adjust it and become better and better. But there's no judge to point out Anna's unclean jump…

    • @anaespiral3265
      @anaespiral3265 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@user-hp4qr4kh4o exactly! I wish ISU puntuated with the strictness as years ago...

  • @ghostyjulia
    @ghostyjulia ปีที่แล้ว +32

    I'm so done with Anna's lutz getting +4.6 goe when it was under rotated and not even a lutz

  • @TL-tc9jq
    @TL-tc9jq 2 ปีที่แล้ว +124

    Judging from this video, Anna Shcherbakova’s “4lutz” has nothing correct. Nothing. Wrong edge, full blade take off, prerotation, under rotation. Yet she’s team Tut’s favorite girl. Lmfao.

  • @alinareybey3263
    @alinareybey3263 3 ปีที่แล้ว +407

    Anna’s Lutz getting the highest GOE.. y’all I’m dead 😂😂

    • @Anna-vg3ne
      @Anna-vg3ne 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Same here

    • @35lavender
      @35lavender 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      I’m wheezing

    • @zubrowska9017
      @zubrowska9017 3 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      I literally laughed when I saw that...the sport is becoming a joke

    • @alinareybey3263
      @alinareybey3263 3 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      @@zubrowska9017 the sport isn’t becoming a joke it’s just judges and some coaches who can’t teach or recognize skaters flaws and mistakes. 😬 I hope worlds brings better scores and actually realistic judges who downgrade skaters like Anna who have horrid technical elements.

    • @zubrowska9017
      @zubrowska9017 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@alinareybey3263 I hope so too, really f*cking bad

  • @overgrownkudzu
    @overgrownkudzu 3 ปีที่แล้ว +340

    how on earth is a prerotated underrotated flutz getting 4.6 goe

    • @senorgato70
      @senorgato70 3 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      Was wondering the same exact thing

    • @youthotuate
      @youthotuate 3 ปีที่แล้ว +46

      HOW ON EARTH IS A DOWNGRADED FLOOP WITH HANDS DOWN GETTING 0.55 GOE. GOD SAVE FIGURE SKATING.

    • @user-hp4qr4kh4o
      @user-hp4qr4kh4o 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      @@youthotuate I am not a professional figure skate lover, but I know that it is unfair for a touch ground jump to get goe… I think it should be minus 0 to 1 point, and in fact, Anna's quarter jump is not clean… but she still earn the most goe…

    • @MM-co4lf
      @MM-co4lf 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      It's called politics! That is why.

    • @Icekat11
      @Icekat11 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Lol figure skating judging has always been a joke. It just took a while for them to manipulate the more concrete scoring system. Sad. Some things never change.

  • @kecywu6712
    @kecywu6712 3 ปีที่แล้ว +146

    Kamila's second quad toe was my favorite. Sasha has good technique too. Anna looks like she's cheating on the landing!!

    • @ppnexus2000
      @ppnexus2000 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      She did an under rotated 4Lz and got 4.6 goe for it. Judging is a godamn joke

  • @NightElle
    @NightElle 3 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    Shcherbakova got the highest GOE? What a fucking digrace. When people say FS is not a real sport they are right.

  • @statusselebritis2247
    @statusselebritis2247 3 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    I don't know who but exactly i am Alexandra Trussova fans

  • @varvara4006
    @varvara4006 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    What about Trusova’s salchow, loop, flip?

  • @drogosdragoon8879
    @drogosdragoon8879 3 ปีที่แล้ว +98

    Wait Anna got the highest GOE ?

    • @evamasters5028
      @evamasters5028 3 ปีที่แล้ว +61

      She always does. She is the Rusfed darling...

    • @worldpeace9522
      @worldpeace9522 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I don't think so. She was very upset after she finished her FS because she knew that she hadn't done her maximum and made mistakes.

    • @dominiquedominique6462
      @dominiquedominique6462 3 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      Yeah, Anna is always overscored in Russia. I guess, it’s because she personifies some kind of dull, old “Anna Karenina” girl model for Russians

    • @Losyara_pozornyj
      @Losyara_pozornyj 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@dominiquedominique6462 no it's because Eteri has always wanted at least two-time champion of Russia.

    • @Losyara_pozornyj
      @Losyara_pozornyj 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@dominiquedominique6462 Anna has a proper coach.

  • @volhakonig609
    @volhakonig609 3 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    Камиле Валеевой ещё 14 лет. Всем фигуристкам успехов и побед.

  • @evamasters5028
    @evamasters5028 3 ปีที่แล้ว +81

    I am a little conflicted here, because although Kamila has the best jumps, she has the advantage of being 14 years old. Anna and Sasha, on the other hand are in a much tougher place, as they are 16. Kamila is not age eligible for adult international competitions and I think even 15 is too young, as some girls, particularly in Russia still have the bodies of a 12 year old. That said, I certainly liked Kamila's 3A and the height of her jumps is impressive. Anna has been consistently overscored and never penalized for consistent under rotation. I am not sure why Sasha can't bring consistency in her 4Lz... she has multiple successful 4Lz in competitions and the right technique... I just hope she will stabilize that. Interestingly, it looks like Maya was underscored for her 4T... they graded this as 2T... given the fact that she was in team Medvedeva, this looks purposeful. Shame of Rusfed for supporting some of its skaters and betraying others. Thank you for your beautiful compilation and analysis. 🙏❤

    • @bizarremisia
      @bizarremisia 3 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      Sasha is still injured. 4Lz has been one of her most consistent jumps this season, but right at the Rostelecom Cup she injured herself during an unsuccessful 3A attempt. She fell on almost all of her quads that time and, after that, was only able to perform a 4Lz since it seems to be less aggressive to her injured leg. She did well, despite the injury, but let's hope that he fully recovers and gains consistency on her 4Lz and 4T

    • @worldpeace9522
      @worldpeace9522 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@bizarremisia are you joking? No any skater can jump and land it successfully with injury in leg. Sasha doesn't have any injury.

    • @bizarremisia
      @bizarremisia 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      @@worldpeace9522 she does. She said it after the russian nats, just look it up.

    • @bizarremisia
      @bizarremisia 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@worldpeace9522 there you go. It's in Russian but I think u can translate it. She was injured even before the rostelecom cup. rsport.ria.ru/20201226/trusova-1591069160.html

    • @worldpeace9522
      @worldpeace9522 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@bizarremisia I know that she said but she was asked what kind of injury she had had, the answer was 'I'll not tell you, it's a secret' 😀. Sasha has never lied and she cannot lie. 😀 No doubt she was asked to tell that. 😀

  • @simplyvanessa9419
    @simplyvanessa9419 3 ปีที่แล้ว +88

    I love all the girls but why are their fans so stubborn and won’t recognize their flaws? If you try to point out smth in a respectful way their fans are gonna come after you and pretend that the judges are always right and other people don’t have a clue of what’s going on! Seriously, grow up

    • @sunnymoon4275
      @sunnymoon4275 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      fans are all about constructive criticism but when it comes to their faves it’s considered hate

    • @simplyvanessa9419
      @simplyvanessa9419 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@j.a.prufrock3752 And this comment shows it! So unfairness is ok as long as it’s your favorite skaters benefit from it?

    • @simplyvanessa9419
      @simplyvanessa9419 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@j.a.prufrock3752 please read my comment before you reply! I talked about fanatics and bad judging in my previous comment which you replied to "it doesn't change anything"! And what does the matter change that the girls are better than everyone else! Unfairness is unfairness! Plus I was referring to Anna and look at her know, she lost her quads and didn't jump a quad for the Last 2 months!

    • @simplyvanessa9419
      @simplyvanessa9419 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@j.a.prufrock3752 I like Valieva, Trusova, Daria, Rika and Aliona (who is restoring her 3A🤩) like them but not the judging 😉 What about you? From juniours I like Samodelkina and Akatieva (even though her programm didn’t showcase her talent)

    • @simplyvanessa9419
      @simplyvanessa9419 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@j.a.prufrock3752 I also hope that Anna will be ok! I hope that she’ll regain her quads and her spins have gotten worse too! No need to worry for Valieva know, she is young and seems to be in perfect shape same for Akatieva!

  • @juankoko2961
    @juankoko2961 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Sasha Te mereces el Oro💯❤️

  • @lora4302
    @lora4302 3 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    Kamilla is the BEST!!!!

  • @skatergirl1247
    @skatergirl1247 3 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    How tf do you get positive GEO for a downgraded floop with a hand down?

    • @user-gg1mc2cm4z
      @user-gg1mc2cm4z 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      because she’s a russian

    • @manka3684
      @manka3684 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@user-gg1mc2cm4z это не влияет, Саша Трусова тренируется у того же тренера, в той же группе, делает всё четверные, и получает безумно низкие оценки

  • @uniform-experiment
    @uniform-experiment 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Kamilla is the BEST! Trusova is good too. But I like KOSTORNAYA the best.
    是非とも紀平も検証してほしい。サルコウジャンプはプレが解りづらいが、彼女のジャンプもまた素晴らしい。

  • @sashaseckers
    @sashaseckers 3 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    I’m also so sick of the blade assistance and bad takeoffs ugh

    • @ffff-qq2cu
      @ffff-qq2cu 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      take a pill or see a doctor if u are sick. stay inside and don't spread ur virus all over if u are sick of ;))

    • @ssangyoukevin
      @ssangyoukevin 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I see a lot of blade assistance and pre rotations for the toe pick jumps....

    • @angieortizurena3327
      @angieortizurena3327 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      @@ssangyoukevin totally agree, calling that a “perfect 4T” when the toe wasn’t indeed the principal actor in the jump is such a joke!

    • @sashaseckers
      @sashaseckers 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      @@ssangyoukevin Yeah, it's super frustrating. This technique isn't sustainable, and more than that-- it just is NOT proper technique. I'd rather see a well executed, clean triple than a false quad.

    • @ssangyoukevin
      @ssangyoukevin 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@sashaseckers axel entries are easier, but that's exactly how you know it's not a proper technique. They literally have same height and air time as properly executed and beautiful delayed toe pick jumps - cramming the rotations in there to make it look like a quad is not a sustainable technique. I applaud their athleticism for sure, and I must admit a lot of their 3As are GORGEOUS but Eteri better teach them the right techniques or else their jumps are going to fall apart once they start growing up.

  • @_--__--_2313
    @_--__--_2313 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Аннушка для меня и многих людей самая лучшая.❤❤❤

  • @amyhzd2132
    @amyhzd2132 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Cuando Alexandra hace bien las cosas técnicamente ni Valieva le gana, aunque en esta competencia no estaba en forma, sin embargo ya sabemos que los jueces rusos aunque haga todo bien no la juzgaran de forma correcta porque tienen a sus favoritas.

  • @ria3817
    @ria3817 3 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    I would recommend these ladies a travel to St. Petersburg and ask Mr Mishin to teach them a proper toe jump technique. Only Sasha is close to that technique and tries to take off with a toe. The rest of the ladies use a blade.

    • @smilenews2224
      @smilenews2224 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Mishin’s students also have a flutz. Sofia Samodurova and Anastasia Guliakova have a flutz

    • @ffff-qq2cu
      @ffff-qq2cu 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      it's not about poor teaching or bad learnig :))) every body is unique. they are not machines. a body has natural limitations that's what makes us different. there are NO two athletes who can jump absolutely the same way. there are NO two cheifs who can make the same pasta :))) don't be that primitive. stop fucking young ladies for being different. they are NOT robots and will never be:) luckily

    • @ria3817
      @ria3817 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@ffff-qq2cu Wow, are you serious? Proper technique doesn't depend on the body type. How can 184cm high men take off with a toe and 150cm high girls can't? And why are you so rude? I'm not against any young lady. I'm against their coaches who don't teach them properly.

    • @selina6377
      @selina6377 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@ria3817 Technically it‘s both.Technique and body type.Trusova for example has a deep outside edge on her Lutz despite being coached by Eteri(who doesn’t really care about proper edges)thats because she is very strong and her body can hold the edge.Sherbakova never learned a proper lutz edge(not her fault)and her body type doesn’t help her to get it naturally.

    • @ria3817
      @ria3817 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@selina6377 Still it's not my point. The girls jump lutz, toe-loop and flip which are all TOE jumps. But none of them actually takes off with a toe pick assistance. They use a full blade. Look how Liza takes off for lutz and compare it to any of the young ladies. You don't even need a slo-mo. No, actually you don't need Liza, you can compare their triple jumps to their quads, as they use this unproper technique mostly jumping quads. Why? Because it's much easier to take off having a blade than only a toe pick assistance so they use full blade while jumping quads.

  • @coletterobichaud3465
    @coletterobichaud3465 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Where can you see the breakdown of scores?

  • @raphaelangelotaro499
    @raphaelangelotaro499 3 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    Kamila 💪

  • @vanzyceberus2615
    @vanzyceberus2615 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Kamila 2 quad Toe is outer space 👍

  • @bond_m
    @bond_m 3 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    And yet Sasha was the only one who have unclear edge on the lutz in the protocols)

    • @WingedDusk
      @WingedDusk 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      У Саши неверное ребро на флипе. th-cam.com/video/5cR3piWSe1g/w-d-xo.html
      Не позорьтесь.

    • @user-hp1bs2zm9t
      @user-hp1bs2zm9t 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      вообще-то на флипе, но вы, наверное, просто не разбираетесь)

    • @user-gg9uu9kx9w
      @user-gg9uu9kx9w 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      No, she got an edge call on her flip, not her lutz

    • @ego_peyseyshestvo
      @ego_peyseyshestvo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      да какая разница, лутц или флип? Ане вообще не помню, чтобы наши хоть раз поставили !, хотя ребра постоянно плоские. ей снимать надо баллы, а не по 5 ставить, за Сашу обидно :(

  • @thekat3086
    @thekat3086 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Anna is the Russian judges' spoiled baby, not surprised at the high GOE on a Flutz, plus touching the ice coz she couldn't stick the landing. I just pity the Russian skaters coz they have one coach who doesn't even teach them proper technique (edges and prerotation). If you're looking for quality jumping, best find it on the men's single skating.

  • @jamesfohare
    @jamesfohare 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Kamila she was, as i saw it the cleanest of all anyhow the rest is history.

  • @nataliaeskova533
    @nataliaeskova533 3 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    У Трусовой из этой тройки девушек самые правильные прыжки. Ещё не совершенные, но в правильном направлении движется девушка! Я за Александру!!!

    • @nikkispark6477
      @nikkispark6477 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      особенно первый! У Камилы самые правильные прыжки!

    • @nataliaeskova533
      @nataliaeskova533 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@nikkispark6477 особенно перетяжка между 4Т и 3Т

    • @LenaSolovyova
      @LenaSolovyova 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Natalia Eskova, Вы наверное кавычки на словосочетании «самые правильные» забыли поставить😆
      И движется она в таком же направлении с кавычками))

    • @nataliaeskova533
      @nataliaeskova533 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@LenaSolovyova что я думала, то и написала, без кавычек. Не нужно навязывать своё мнение

    • @user-hs8oj8tm3c
      @user-hs8oj8tm3c 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@LenaSolovyova "спецыалистка" ?

  • @nicov3928
    @nicov3928 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Kamila: 4T+2T (-/+0) 4T (+3)
    Anna: 4Lz (-1), 4F (-2)
    Sasha: 4Lz (-5), 4Lz (-2), 4T (-/+0)

    • @ffff-qq2cu
      @ffff-qq2cu 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      fair

    • @erikapetrova3153
      @erikapetrova3153 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@ffff-qq2cu I would give Anna´s Lutz -2/-3 goe. Because of UR, unclear edge, full blade assistant and extreme prerotation.

  • @jessyjess2361
    @jessyjess2361 3 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    А теперь разберите недокрученные тройные всех остальных фигуристок мира. Только Кихира, единственная кто может с нашими девочками побороться. Остальным только пилить видисики из зависти)

    • @julhoffman4736
      @julhoffman4736 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Да куда им))) их девы тройные то недокручивают. Вот и лопаются от зависти и злости.

    • @Jeremy-wp4yh
      @Jeremy-wp4yh 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Not really. If Anna got the GOE she deserved she would be just as bad as all the other girls. How does she get a 4.6 GOE for a flutz that's pre-rotated and has an under rotated landing.

    • @WES6666
      @WES6666 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      There are many Russian skaters who have good technique. For example Tutktamesheva. And everyone praises her for good technique. Its not envy. People just want to see real jumps not cheated jumps. If you’re going to break world records because you perform difficult jumps then you should do it correctly.

  • @samelis6546
    @samelis6546 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Can you do jump analysis on Adelia Petrosyan? I want to know if she's got good technique or it's just the same old eteri prerotation. Her 4Lo is quite mesmerising. Could you compare it to other skater's 3Lo or something like that? I need to know. That's looks like my favourite jump, it's so beautiful as compared to those toepick jumps which eteri technique has butchered.

    • @Yurito12
      @Yurito12 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Adelia 4Lo is 4 rotations if you wanted to know, she has a forward take off as all edge jumps have (except for axel) for her jump. Petrosians loop jump is purely speed with decent distance while it lacks height. Currently she has been able to do the 4Lo but very inconsistent as she has gotten taller and has began going through physcial changes, since it lacked height now her rotational speed has slown down causing her to fall on her 4Lo but as she gets more into shape she will slowly recover it as her 3A shows how insanely fast she can still rotate. Overall her quad loop is good just need height to make up for when she's older and losses speed

  • @mbaxromov40
    @mbaxromov40 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    People talk about Anna's UR 4Lz. But Sasha's 4T was under rotated and her 4Lz was

  • @captainbryce1
    @captainbryce1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I've been a casual fan of figure skating for years and while I do recognize the 6 different kinds of jumps (as well as the Euler), I'm by no means an expert. Some of the terminology used for errors confuses me. I know what a "Flutz" is (intended to be a Lutz but taking off on straight or inside edge like a Flip). But can someone explain what a "Floop" is? I'm guessing it's supposed to mean a Flip that looks more like a loop? I see people referring to Anna's 4F as a "Floop", but why exactly?

    • @jessicamessica287
      @jessicamessica287 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      because the uses the full blade to assist her jump into the air instead of just the toepick, and since the loop is an edge jump and the flip is supposed to be a pick jump, floop is a good description for this type of takeoff

    • @captainbryce1
      @captainbryce1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jessicamessica287 Thanks, that makes sense!

  • @skylar0628
    @skylar0628 3 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    Sasha! At least her edges are correct.

    • @annann6741
      @annann6741 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      No! Her flip edge isn’t

    • @dominiquedominique6462
      @dominiquedominique6462 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      But it gets proper call offs. Anna’s flaws just tend to go “unnoticed”

    • @user-gg9uu9kx9w
      @user-gg9uu9kx9w 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Not her flip edge ;))))

    • @abdakhatoon9514
      @abdakhatoon9514 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@user-gg9uu9kx9w at least it gets called lmao

  • @user12ek5
    @user12ek5 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Kamila!

  • @lucaz3107
    @lucaz3107 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Kamila 4T is just so good

  • @rocioortizalmader5539
    @rocioortizalmader5539 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Kamila la mejor 👏👏👏

  • @francoquintanilla5798
    @francoquintanilla5798 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Sasha

  • @Mike-ev6hu
    @Mike-ev6hu 3 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    - Привет. Что делаешь?
    - Привет. Да вот сижу перед телеком и угломером вычисляю недокруты у русских. А то вообще распоясались.
    - А не пробовал без угломера просто посмотреть? Там же еще оценивают компоненты.
    - А зачем? Там же смотреть больше не на что...
    Мы всех судили понемногу, кого-нибудь и как-нибудь...

    • @user-rp4sy3le8x
      @user-rp4sy3le8x 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Че за куйню ты написал ? Компоненты оцениваются отдельно, представление, музыкальность, навыки катания и т.д. Оценки за них выставляются отдельно, а никак не в прыжках

    • @Mike-ev6hu
      @Mike-ev6hu 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@user-rp4sy3le8x Писец! А я то и не знал! Ну надо же. Твой ответ прямо как откровение Божеское снизошло на меня и поразило в самую печень. Слався!

    • @reinstate317
      @reinstate317 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@user-rp4sy3le8x ++

  • @MelonLord
    @MelonLord 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    There is something different about Anna’s legs compared to the other girls. I know it’s probably just her body shape but I’m not sure if she’s actually pointing her feet.

  • @francoquintanilla5798
    @francoquintanilla5798 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Sasha 🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰😍🥰😍🥰😍🥰😍🥰😍🥰😍😍😍😍😍😍😍🥰😍😍🥰🥰😍🥰😍😘

  • @unikkoi
    @unikkoi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Goe Анны это какое-то сумасшествие

  • @timona17
    @timona17 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Anna ❤

  • @cjjenkins507
    @cjjenkins507 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    What's the maximum amount of pre-rotation allowed before the ">" symbols come out?

    • @overgrownkudzu
      @overgrownkudzu 3 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      depends on the coaches name

    • @mateoferretto2175
      @mateoferretto2175 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      PRE-rotation, there isn't. It is considered bad technique in certain jumps but doesn't have a < deduction, those are only for under-rotations

    • @MegaSportsluver
      @MegaSportsluver 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@mateoferretto2175 I wish there are mandatory deductions for poor take-off; and pre-rotation, blade assistance on toe jumps should clearly fall into that category man

    • @WES6666
      @WES6666 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@overgrownkudzu *depends on the skaters coach 🙊

    • @WES6666
      @WES6666 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The “>” is for underrotation. Pre rotation is not really penalized in skating its just considered lower quality of even cheated. But If we’re going to give skaters a lot of points for doing quads then they should take pre rotation into account. If you do a “quad” thats 3/4 pre rotated, that means you actually did 3.25 rotation. In my opinion you don’t deserve the high base value for quads, you just did a slightly over rotated triple.

  • @ssangyoukevin
    @ssangyoukevin 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    they are jumping their toe jumps with an EDGE take off 🤨

  • @KamilaValieva-fan
    @KamilaValieva-fan ปีที่แล้ว

    Kamila’s quad has the highest quality

  • @sashaseckers
    @sashaseckers 3 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Anna does not deserve such high GOEs djbdfjhsfkhsfhk

  • @haadd9492
    @haadd9492 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Trusova the best ❤️

  • @Contrapuntalist
    @Contrapuntalist 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Valieva

  • @userbunny14
    @userbunny14 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I think Anna's 4Lz only got the highest GOE because a Lz is higher value then a T. Kamila's 4T actually scored higher percentage wise, and GOE is a percentage. 30% of a Lz is higher then 40% of a T (not exactly, but as example) so a +3 on a Lz is more GOE then a +4 on a T.

  • @deeplywounded18
    @deeplywounded18 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Anna’s fake quads 😬

  • @BeksultanAnaraliev
    @BeksultanAnaraliev 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Как не крути, все равно Саша лучшая. По техники ее нет ровных и не будет! Желаю ей удачи на ЧМ.

  • @beautifulsnow6289
    @beautifulsnow6289 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Sasha ❤❤❤

    • @Lara_Chayka
      @Lara_Chayka 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Дура ваша Саша.

    • @user-rf3do1uz6d
      @user-rf3do1uz6d 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Lara_Chayka, а вы грубиянка

    • @Lara_Chayka
      @Lara_Chayka 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@user-rf3do1uz6d ну, пусть я грубиянка, и что? Что это меняет в том, что ваша Саша дура?

    • @user-rf3do1uz6d
      @user-rf3do1uz6d 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@Lara_Chayka, ну, хотя бы то, что таких, как вы много, а Сашка - уникальная.

    • @Lara_Chayka
      @Lara_Chayka 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@user-rf3do1uz6d уникальная дура? Даже спорить не буду.

  • @matthiasmueller346
    @matthiasmueller346 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Kami's technique is almost catastrophic. Her air position is frightening. Her edge chance in the combos is bad and unhealthy too. Her 4T is a 3A with a half more rotation. But she is just bred for one Olympic cycle. She max does 4T and 4S. Anna always use full bald assist she never heard about toe pick. It's not fair to compare this to Trusova with 4Lz and 4F. If people do that they have no idea about Figure Skating. Trusova is the only Quad Queen. Still there is no comparison to her. Adeliia is doing 4F with 1 rotation on the Ice. So it's all a joke.

  • @Nathantodd2012
    @Nathantodd2012 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Long Live Conan the Barbarian!

  • @rop888
    @rop888 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Best jump of the day was obviously Kamila's second 4T. Anna's 4lz is seriously awful and her 4F was very visibly UR. Sasha was lucky they let her get away with that 4lz combo too.

  • @nipaipo36100
    @nipaipo36100 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    valieva is the best. the 2nd 4TL was magnificent! anna s technic is very bad. the goe for her 4L was a shame.

  • @koreasuglyfacechinchangcho5282
    @koreasuglyfacechinchangcho5282 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Valieva,Shcherbakova, Kostornaya,Trusova, Medvedeva, Zagitova,Kim
    who's the best?

    • @drogosdragoon8879
      @drogosdragoon8879 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      qUeN kiM yUnA

    • @user-gg9uu9kx9w
      @user-gg9uu9kx9w 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      What’s wrong with you

    • @Essylte
      @Essylte 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@user-gg9uu9kx9w Another bitterbot freak.

    • @Essylte
      @Essylte 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nice try, bitteroi/arclight/Maxim Sochiputin. The best is the skater who was the first one to ever win a Super Career Grand Slam.

    • @user-gg9uu9kx9w
      @user-gg9uu9kx9w 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@koreasuglyfacechinchangcho5282 shut up racist

  • @strawberry____0105
    @strawberry____0105 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Anya's 4Lz got the highest GOE point but it is because 4Lz has the highest base value.
    Kamila's second 4T got the highest percent of GOE and it was just so beautiful.
    However, I love Anya's jump too.
    She doesn't have the best hight or power but she lands her quads very smooth, so for me it's such a comfortable to watch.
    I don't understand much about edge problems and under rotation so I'm not thinking about it.

    • @angieortizurena3327
      @angieortizurena3327 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Sweetie, GOE have NOTHING to do with base value...please read and learn about it first. GOEs are given in lieu of transitions before and after the jump, entries, speed, musicality, synchronization with music....and in case of certain skaters, GOEs are given because of their names, who their coaches are, or how much they paid; so that’s why you see an almost +5 GOE for the most awful Flootz (a mix between a flip, a lutz and a loop) that this season has shown.

    • @erikapetrova3153
      @erikapetrova3153 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      That is the problem, you don't understand the rules. But rules are a point of sports. It is true that Anya's jumps looks beautiful, are fast rotated, effortless etc. But the main point of FS is the right technique, the rotation is probably the most important thing, and judges have to call it, because it's so unfair to other skaters. If they called her UR and her wrong edge her goe would be so much lower and it doesn't matter if the lutz has the highest base value.

    • @vintagebroadwaystar3473
      @vintagebroadwaystar3473 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@erikapetrova3153 Anna's jumps look nice in the air, but her take-offs are very ugly, which is a shame bc she is a lovely skater in every other way! She lands forwards a lot too. I'd love to see her perfecting lovely triples than taking on these ugly quads that she's not really pulling off

  • @Benbbg
    @Benbbg 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why you compare those fall down, that’s unfair

  • @user-zq5ww2xu5t
    @user-zq5ww2xu5t 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Queen Anna💓

  • @user-ym6pb6zz1c
    @user-ym6pb6zz1c 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    ワリエワ>=トゥルソワ>>>>フロミフ>>>>シェルバコワ

  • @walkinginspirit3589
    @walkinginspirit3589 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The Bible prophesied everything that is happening now, and everything that will happen in the future. Please turn to Jesus Christ. He is the ONLY way to heaven. To be saved, we must believe in the finished work of Christ on the cross. Jesus Christ shed his blood on the cross for our sins, died, was buried, and rose again on the third day. God loves you, whoever is reading this. He loves all of us. He loves us so much that he came into the flesh, and died on the cross for us, and rose again. You just heard the gospel of our salvation. Please accept Jesus Christ as your Lord, and Savior. Jesus Christ will return very soon. Tomorrow is not always promised. May the Lord bless you, and keep you, everyone who is reading this.

  • @lillianscott4194
    @lillianscott4194 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Pre

  • @victoralanis6772
    @victoralanis6772 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I don't even know why a lot of people throw hate on Ana and think or believe that Sasha its better when she felt on the 4Lz and in the 4T her hand touched the ice really hard compared to Anna's. So don't think that just because you like Sasha she its better 😏 when she is so inconsistent in her jums and has no artistry.

    • @hhhttv9429
      @hhhttv9429 ปีที่แล้ว

      you are so right

    • @Pepalamarrana
      @Pepalamarrana 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Well, because nowdays people see figure skating only like hard jumps, and don't care about other elements or the quality of the presentation in other aspects. On the other hand, this video is a technique jump analysis, so they're evaluating just the jumps

  • @user-cz8hg7fv7u
    @user-cz8hg7fv7u 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Подборка ужасная, как- будто подбирали специально. Наши девочки прекрасны все и вашим до них как до луны!! Можете теперь смотреть только своих и так же тщательно под микроскопом!!

  • @Aminok.2019
    @Aminok.2019 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Так смешно что здесь не доделанные эксперты и судьи так хают Аню,надеюсь после Олимпиады когда она стала чемпионкой они прикусили свой язык 😛 Аня лучшая запомните это чтобы ваши злые языки не говорили

    • @nonamelol5050
      @nonamelol5050 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Ну так ошибки были все те же)) просто судьи их как обычно проморгали

    • @user-hi4gx3oy2o
      @user-hi4gx3oy2o 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Считаю лутц А Щербаковой лучше всех

    • @nonamelol5050
      @nonamelol5050 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@user-hi4gx3oy2o хахахахах это который с плоского ребра, при том, что это верхний зубцовый прыжок

    • @user-jb8xn5dp1w
      @user-jb8xn5dp1w ปีที่แล้ว

      Ха ха ха

  • @BoleroProduction
    @BoleroProduction 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    С этим видео, честно, стало как-то неприятно. В этом случае потому, что та же Трусова, не делая чисто четверные в последнее время, все равно обладает лучшей и правильной техникой, чем Щербакова, которая, как показали, не докручивает, и делает неправильные углы при отталкивании, как я понял. По сути говоря, при чистых приземлениях Саша должна получать на порядок выше. Камила второй тулуп на ЧМ вообще идеально сделала, и именно он обязан был быть с наивысшим GOE. Честно, не понимаю, почему закрывают глаза на то, что творится с прыжками Ани. Ничего не имею против нее, но симпатии к определенным личностям тоже не питаю. И это здравое рассуждение, лишенное субъективности. Понятное дело, что это все в родной стране происходит, от этого не менее интересно посмотреть, как на это посмотрят международные жюри...

    • @MsRumex
      @MsRumex 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      так и в родной стране решают кого на ЧМ отправить а оценивают как хотят (одним глаза закрывают на ошибки, на других под микроскопом все рассматривают).

    • @BoleroProduction
      @BoleroProduction 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@MsRumex это да, в этом сезоне теперь ясно вижу, что субъективность есть и причем немалая. Жаль, конечно. Но во всяком случае желаю всем ребятам удачи, надеюсь отберутся на ЧМ Саша и Алена, а там уже не так важно, за кем победа. Главное - поучаствовали в главном старте и явно все втроем войдут на пьедестал.

    • @alexpolyansky
      @alexpolyansky 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      С прыжками Ани все хорошо у неё прыжки с правильных рёбер докрученные и с прекрасными выездами

    • @MsRumex
      @MsRumex 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@alexpolyansky да да, особенно лутц у Ани очень часто с "правильного" ребра. Мы все видели, не волнуйтесь. Благо не по черно белому телевизору смотрим))

    • @alexpolyansky
      @alexpolyansky 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@MsRumex вы видите альтернативную реальность - хейтерскую что вам не покажи

  • @user-ib5yn4cp4w
    @user-ib5yn4cp4w 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Господи, как вы все достали специалисты хреновы!

    • @user-my4pi2zv3v
      @user-my4pi2zv3v 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Не смотрите, если вас это достало)) человек на своем канале что хочет, то и делает)

    • @winter-sportfun435
      @winter-sportfun435 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      так не смотрите и не комментируйте - не будет просмотров и комментариев перестанут делать видео)))

    • @user-ib5yn4cp4w
      @user-ib5yn4cp4w 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@winter-sportfun435 с удовольствием. Ноги моей здесь больше не будет

  • @dirtymikeandtheboyz6582
    @dirtymikeandtheboyz6582 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I liked the part when she took drugs and cheated

  • @serenity208
    @serenity208 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I don’t care! I really love Anna)

    • @fruitsie7943
      @fruitsie7943 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You should look up in the comment were some one said their fans are soooo blond

    • @fruitsie7943
      @fruitsie7943 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Blind *

    • @fruitsie7943
      @fruitsie7943 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Her flip didn’t get a downgrade and had a hand down , it was impossible to get a positive goe

    • @serenity208
      @serenity208 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@fruitsie7943 go away)

  • @Latika491
    @Latika491 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Why all the foreigners don't like Anna and criticize her technique all the time?

    • @userbunny14
      @userbunny14 3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      Cause its bad? She's not the only one. Sasha's flip has an outside edge. Kamila has a weird pull between her combo jumps. Liza's flip is also very awkward. They've all got flaws, its just that Anna's are most often ignored by judges while everyone else gets punished.

    • @dominiquedominique6462
      @dominiquedominique6462 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Latika It is not against Anna as a person. She seems to be nice, hard working girl. Still, she is unfairly favorized and no one can like that. Her technique is bad and, honestly, not good at all for her body. When she was a little girl it could not be her fault, but now with her intelligence and pretty good English she should know that she kinda cheat her jumps and she should do something about that. Go to the coach who can correct her

    • @user-gg9uu9kx9w
      @user-gg9uu9kx9w 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@dominiquedominique6462 it is very difficult to change your jump technique this late in your career, it can lead to you losing all your jumps

    • @dominiquedominique6462
      @dominiquedominique6462 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @ S 80 Yes, of course, but then the judging should be correct and flawed jumps with incorrect technique shoul receive call offs and lower GOEs. It actually happened once, at Grand Prix in China 2019. Anna’s jumps were judged as they always should be. She won still, but her score was more normal and could get her in serious troubles against skaters like Sasha or Rika.

    • @user-gg9uu9kx9w
      @user-gg9uu9kx9w 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@dominiquedominique6462 I’m saying, what is the incentive for Anna to attempt to completely overhaul her jumping technique this late in her career, possibly lose all of her jumps and become uncompetitive when she’s already getting massive inflated scores skating the way she is now? What is the benefit in doing that for both her and Eteri?

  • @irinakatz579
    @irinakatz579 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Вопрос - зачем девушкам вообще квады? Они их в возрасте между 13-15, максимум 16-ю годами прыгают. В 17-18 лет они, естественно, прибавляют в весе (не всю же жизнь весить 35 кг, чтобы исполнять квады) и перестают прыгать квады и так сказать, прерывают, а на самом деле заканчивают карьеру. У женского катания есть масса других элементов, чтобы сделать его действительно женским, эмоциональным, эстетическим, действительно, произведением искусства, а не беготней между бортиками с фейковыми квадами.

    • @sergeykiselev6013
      @sergeykiselev6013 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      ну Саше и Анне уже 16 и они прыгают с чего вы взяли что они перестанут это делать 17-18 лет если до них квады ни когда не прыгали

    • @user-mp3me3tz1t
      @user-mp3me3tz1t 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@sergeykiselev6013 Вопрос в том как они это делают, если очень плохо, то зачем? Учили бы 3А лучше.

    • @sergeykiselev6013
      @sergeykiselev6013 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@user-mp3me3tz1t ну пока на их квады ни кто не жалуется а дальше жизнь покажет 3А у Камиллы готов к олимпиаде и Анна думаю разучит

    • @Alina-phoenix
      @Alina-phoenix 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@user-mp3me3tz1t в 3А особо не схитрить любая ошибка может стоить удачного прыжка. 3А очень коварный прыжок. Думаю, Камила ещё года полтора сможет его прыгать, дальше тоже если сильно не наберёт. Саша сможет и сейчас начать, вопрос её нервов для стабильности и вылеченной травмы и также набора веса.
      Аня... Как бы я не любила её, но мне кажется 3А для неё недостижим, она на квадах прыгает стабильно 3,25 оборотов в воздухе в лучших попытках, в худших около 3 оборотов. Для стабильного 3А очень важен момент отрыва и обороты в воздухе должны быть близки к 3,5. Ане тогда придётся сильно поднимать высоту в прыжках, а это дело не быстрое, к тому же стоит ли игра свечь перед ОИ и тем более когда и так она получает на своих "квадах" много.

    • @user-mp3me3tz1t
      @user-mp3me3tz1t 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@Alina-phoenix Получит ли много на международных?)) Российское судейство все-таки не совсем адекватное.

  • @diegocassere
    @diegocassere 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Nobody did a quad jump. 3 and a half or 3 1/4 revolutions are not quad. Bye!

    • @sobor5068
      @sobor5068 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      As much as I don't like Kamila's skating she actually has a good quad toeloop. Toeloop is allowed to have up to 180 degrees of prerotation. Also there are so many skaters that have 180 degrees of prerotation on their triple lutzes and flips are those not triples either?

    • @diegocassere
      @diegocassere 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@sobor5068 only 1/4... Its totally unfair who have good technique because bad technique is being rewarded. Look at the forward position of the body, they dont pass the weight to the pick foot... Look at Yuna kim, Carolina kostner, Rika kihira...

    • @diegocassere
      @diegocassere 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@sobor5068 a toe jump that takes off facing the chest backwards is not a toe jump. Look at the take off of all the jumps. Its funny because the slowmotion of the video shows all the take off...

    • @sobor5068
      @sobor5068 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@diegocassere I do absolutely agree that Yuna Carolina and Rika have better technique than her for sure but a toeloop still is allowed to have 1/2 of prerotation, lutz and flip are 1/4. Also I love Rika but she definitely has over 1/4 of prerotation on her lutz and flip.

    • @drogosdragoon8879
      @drogosdragoon8879 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      1/2 it’s still good tech, bad tech are toe axel like Evgenia Medvedeva, Stanislava Konstantinova, Alena Kostornaia, Maia on this video who prerotates 3/4

  • @julhoffman4736
    @julhoffman4736 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    You can make a lot of such vids but☝it's a fact that our Russian girls are the best from all over the world!

  • @user-bd1io8fe6n
    @user-bd1io8fe6n 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Камилла прыгала лучше всех, хватит анализировать. Тулуп у неё на огромнейшей высоте. У Анны все гармонично. Ну Саша как всегда куча квадов почти все мимо и некрасивые движения,нет музыкальности,руки как палки болтаются. Ей срочно надо уходить от плюща иначе все растеряет. Пусть идет к Рукавицину,он ей поможет как Лизе Нугумановой.

    • @user-xi5fn4wq2e
      @user-xi5fn4wq2e 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Боже, тренер

    • @user-bd1io8fe6n
      @user-bd1io8fe6n 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@user-xi5fn4wq2e Конечно тренер,если учесть что мой сын 15 лет занимался спортом.

    • @Losyara_pozornyj
      @Losyara_pozornyj 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Девочку зовут Камила. С одной буквой л.

    • @user-bd1io8fe6n
      @user-bd1io8fe6n 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Losyara_pozornyj Не надо меня поправлять я прекрасно знаю. Просто телефон глюканул

    • @pull4194
      @pull4194 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@user-bd1io8fe6n Ой командирша, у всех все идеально у одной Саши все ужасно и некрасиво. Вам надо быть диванным судьёй или аналитиком.