Anna Shcherbakova Syzran 2020 Jump Analysis
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 22 ก.ย. 2020
- I am so excited that the season just started here a video taking a look of Anna’s jumps, who won the first competition of the season.
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Her flutz drives me nuts, but Ann really seems like a grounded person. She seems like a sincerely kind, self-aware person.
Too bad she's not aware of her flutz🤣
@@Jeremy-wp4yh haha! Touche. I have seen her shocked at her scores when she knows she has performed badly, shocked in a how did I get such a good score kind of way.
She's not a flutzer, Medvedeva and Kaori Sakamoto are. She has an flat/unclear outside edge most of the time.
@@maouimaisnon2535 Kaori has a better technique than Anna. Anna is a loop entry.
@@Jeremy-wp4yh lmao and Kaori’s is what ?? She has a clear INSIDE edge with 180 prerotation, how is it not a loop entry ? Just go watch it please, don’t spread bullshit. At least Anna risked 4lz, Kaori has not even a good tech on her triples.
Love Anna. And love how you pointed out her knew there were mistake in her program. She seems like such a sweet and hard working girl!
I can understand why she is so popular. Such a lovely young girl.
Last season there was one stage of the grand prix where alina zagitova and anna got their mistakes rightfully called, and the russian federation sent a letter to ISU because they were "unfairly" calling targeting russian skaters... what a load of bullshit... if judges were objetive (like they are supposed to be), this sport would be so much enjoyable...
Сам-то квады умеешь прыгать, или только других критиковать?
@@Lara_Chayka its constructive criticism russians gets so angry when they are corrective weather this person can jump quads is irrelevant their jumping technique sucks and that is that . ISU sucks at scoring athletes and most of the time its rigged gosh.
@@l22244 конструктивно может критиковать только тот, кто сам может сделать и показать, как правильно. Русские умеют делать, а ты умеешь только критиковать. Слейся, душнила.
@@Lara_Chayka Again incorrect there are many videos on the internet where you can find jump analysis where most of the time Tutberitze's students have bad jumping technique the only russian I can say who has good technique is Tuktameysheva .There are even the Italians who criticized the jumping technique of Zhenya they were roasted for having bad jumps you dont have to be a judge to figure out who can and cant jump just look at the athletes name with jumping technique
@@Lara_Chayka Tutberitze's is also a bad coach and is abusive to her students the girls are taught to jump with their backs and their low weight instead of building muscle because its a shortcut . I feel pity for her students they shine for a couple of years but after their bodies discard they are forgotten .Her system replicates the Karolyi's system in the U.S.A
omg finally. an account that gives constructive critisicm and also gives components. THIS IS THE WAY TO MAKE THESE VIDEOS!!!!! it’s nice to see people not give hate to these girls
True like it's not their fault they do what they can with the technique that Eteri gave to them
@@emi283 Russians are not the only ones who have an imperfect technique you know ?
People never hated on these girls, the hate their skating and the scores. Please 🤦🏻♀️
i always feel bad for skaters when they are overscored. its not their fault at all. its the judges.
@Skate Lover That doesn't excuse not calling any of the < though does it
@Skate Lover Yes. My point was that the bonuses arn't the overscored part. The non-called under-rotations are a big part of it.
@Skate Lover yes but the 82 in the short program was quite strange even for a Russian comp
Skate Lover oO I see what you mean, sorry that took a while :’ how does the bonuses work for the difficulty is it based on the BV of the type of combo or the GOE too?
@Skate Lover This is the first time I heard about this bonus points. Do they apply for all internal Russian competitions? Seems weird to me because you wouldn't get appraised of the actual execution of the elements, well you can do the math in your head but still I don't see the point. Except Rusfeds want to inflate the domestic scoring to a high degree so that when their athletes compete internationally, the overscoring would appear less than the domestic and people wouldn't notice and accept as normal.
I loved this quad flip from Anna specifically here tho, every other quad in other competitions have just been going full on torpedo from the start. This quad started slower at the first few rotations and went faster while she descended which made it looks AMAZING!!!
Domestic competition over-scoring is not as "harmless" as most people think. The judges in these competitions also judge internationally and by giving 82 pts in the SP with that performance, next time she performs internationally with the same quality and gets 78 we'll be "yeah it's alright, she got 82 for similar performance and that's domestic so 78 here seems about right". IMO Rusfed is pushing Anna as favorite for this season. Whatever the reason behind it, it's still not right overscoring a certain athlete even in domestic competition. Anna face said it all, and it's not fair for other athletes in that competition.
I think the reason is that she is the only one out of the last year trio who still trains in Khrustalny. It's especially clear after recent Sasha's scores
@@yellopechen Anna is overscored, so does Kamila. But I don't think Sasha is underscored? She has much to work on jumps aside.
Daria is really underscored, but she is in Eteri's camp.
So probably it's about the skater not the coach?
She earned 2 extra points for perfectly executed spins according to the rules in domestic competitions. She wouldn't get 82 in international competitions but it doesn't mean she was overscored
@@anotheraleks that's the gripe that I have with this bonus points system. It's pointless because we have BV for high value and high difficulty elements and GOE if they are executed well. No points IMO adding another system on top of it. Also let's say you discard the bonus she got for the spin, the score is still ridiculous as the combination jump was not landed well even if you didn't call it under.
Sadly you're ignorant. The 82.XX had 2 points bonus for spins and the only valid complaint was a missed Q on the combo (which they put for no reason in the FS so it evens out). An extra -2 GoE on the combo means 1.5 points TOPS. That's it. So an international score would be 79-80, which is correct.
awful tecnique here: unclear lutz edge, too much prerotation, blade assist on toepick jumps, urs... I wish it was quality over quantity again, I don't wanna see quads in a skater who is not perfect at jumping triples
Yeah !!!! Exactly
Can we pleaseeeee make rules for judging pre rotation omg.
ISU said it was too difficult to do so for poor technique. But the thing is, many coaches nowadays teach jumps with so much pre-rotation. Not just the Russian ones. My coach said the flip is a forward loop motion with the takeoff like a toed Salchow
@@Mxlchn And your coach is technically correct. Every jump takes a quarter to a half rotation of pre-rotation... that's how physics works. Many Russian skaters go beyond the half which is not necessary to do a proper jump.
@@anika5094 Flip is 90degrees to 180degrees prerotation. ISU simulations have the takeoff at around 90 to 100 degrees.
Love the pink and gray dress.❤❤
Anna is a good skater and she knows where to work the most, that 3Lz3Lo for example.
Very interesting, thank you! I like her extensions after landing. And reminding us that the skater has no control over the score! I love the sound effects too 🎉
It seems like most of the Russian girls since Sotnikova have had some of the most beautiful double axels in skating but quite bad lutz technique.
In other countries same situation. I only can name several skaters who show correct techniques- Liza Tuktamisheva, Rika Kihira and idk who else
@@darthvader8810 Trusova. She is intensively improving her technique. When I watched her on the show, it even seemed like she had reduced her prerotation to 1/4, and compared to other current quad players, it deserves praise.
@@shatteredskies7420 agree about Trusova. I don’t count prerotation as a great mistake because it’s widespread. But at least the uses toe pick and correct edge which is very cool for such a difficult jump as 4lz. For ladies it’s great achievement
well she definitely got taller. p.s. also really love your videos they're actual good critique and sends positive messages. It's unlike a lot of other comments and videos I see out there so it's just a breath of fresh air, thank youu :)
This is Russia Cup stage in Syzran. Not even Final Cup, not even Russian Championship and not even ISU tournament. IT MEANS NOTHING EXCEPT FAN's HOLYWAR. All coaches know better than judges how their athletes doing right or wrong. I thank this video creator for the detailed parsing, but i want everybody not to seriously care about not ISU scores.
And despite your sanctimonious speech, she got a 4,76 GOE for a 4 Flootz at Nationals… 🤷🏻♀️
to me she is really good on components but has a very weak technic on her jumps.
Anna is my favorite skater to watch. She is so elegant and unassuming.
What are your thoughts about the first competition of the season ?
I respect Anna, but her jumps are horrible, so poor technque. I think she understands her scores. I feel angry that judges are not allowed to use slow motion!
Skate Lover true ! I forgot to mention those bonuses thanks for commenting
Landing on the quarter is q not UR so the jumps in the SP that were under should have q. Great video nonetheless
Under the newer rules they're UR :)
@@anika5094 what is q then? Because they still give q calls
Anna Shcherbakova is simply the BEST ⛸️✨ ...
Beautiful to watch 👏
For you 🙂
just a reminder, please respect the skater when you criticize the judging
I know it is domestic but it is still a competition and it is NOT fair towards other skaters. She was the only one overscored here... So it is shameful.
Haha what do you think about Kamis 85? Cause everyone seems to be commenting mostly when it happens to Anna but is quiet when it comes to others.
@@amberadricula7649 Oh Kamila is just as overscored as Anna if not more. At Channel 1 Trophy... That 90 was very obnoxious. Aleona didn't even get over 88 nationally last year.
She also sticks out her butt a lot when she lands which is extremely hard on your back because you wind up using your back muscles to yank yourself back into position. I’ve pulled muscles pretty badly in my back like that on doubles, so the danger she/tutberidze are putting her in is very high.
I know that Anna’s lutz is flat but I prefer her. Why does she get a higher GOE than Lisa? Because difficult entries, landing positions, and exits matter a lot too.
Yet, judges did not "see " it. :) let me remind you, Anna gets overscored internationally as well. :)
You mean like they gave Anna invented underrotation calls in Torino and Graz that cost her the Gold?
Same in lombardia Trophy and Cup of China.
Or like when kostornaia landed face forward facing the K&C and fell on the 3Lz in Graz and they didn't even give her a < even though it was almost a clear downgrade?
Or how the ISU judges give kostornaia +3/+4 on her spins which are absolutely pathetic and worthy of GoE 1/2 at the very best? Or how half her 3As are underrotated and nobody except the judge in France noticed it?
The most insultingly overscored skater of the last 15 years is kostornaia, she puts medvedeva to shame.
She's slow AF, skated on two legs for most of her programs, pathetic ice coverage, almost 0 edge and she gets 36PCS, lmao. And it all began in JGPF where she entered a 7.85-8.25 skater and came out a 9.00 thanks to the ISU.
@@haploguy the delusional here is hitting so hard lmao, but it's nice to see you still suffer from it BADLY :)
@@haploguy How could someone be so jealous of Kostornaia being the beauty of a skater and person she is. Boo hoo I almost feel sorry for you. Aleona is a beautiful jumper, spinner and artist. P.s. a world class jump coach I worked with shows us her triple axel every lesson for inspiration. Is she perfect? No. Is she the best skater in the world? Yes.
rotated = less than a quarter
q = on the quarter
< = between 180 and 90 underrotation
I love your jump-analysis videos, because your critic is always based on facts and you say things, that have to be said. About any skater.
The technique russian skaters have is concerning, especially in team Tutberitze. Their bodies are breaking.
And Anna’s scoring is not fair, but she is not to blame for it, of course! The judges decide and they often decide in her favor, but she has no influence. I don’t know why that is!
Although I wonder why she jumps quads. Without perfectly jumping triples, you should not try on quads. But that’s for most of the skaters that jump quads.
I personally never liked her lutz, because you can see how her blade straightens to ‚no edge‘ before take-off, so why did she jump quad lutz in the first place?
Now she’s not capable of doing quad lutz and toe anymore, but she was doing them. What happened? Did she grew out of the jumps, is she not strong enough? I would like to know.
А что сделал ты в этой жизни? 4 лутс?флип прыгаешь?😂
nice video!
what is Syzran?
A city in Russia
А сколько в мире фигуристов вы можете назвать с идеальной прыжковой техникой? Так, что бы выполнялись на соревнованиях чисто и побеждали? Здесь и сейчас. Жду ответа
Уверяю вас таких нет и быть не может. Иначе это были бы соревнования роботов. А по поводу всяких там рассуждалок и "Експертных" мнений иностранцев по прокатам наших девушек. Ну так своих-то нет. А порассуждать хочется. Так что вот...
Пожалуйста: Лиза Туктамышева, Михаил Коляда, Юдзуру Ханю, Нэйтан Чен, Рика Кихира: у всех этих фигуристов безупречная техника в прыжках, и все они выигрывали либо были призёрами ЧМ или своих национальных соревнований. Например, лутз все прыгают с внешнего (правильного) ребра, с минимальным prerotation. Найдите любое видео с разбором онлайн и сами можете увидеть. Также, можете найти официальное видео ИСУ с демонстрацией правильной техники прыжков. У меня нет ничего против Анны как фигуристки или человека, очень нравится её стиль катание, вращения, и т.д., но мне кажется, что ничего нет плохого в видео, которое делает технический разбор её прыжков. Лутз она прыгает с внутреннего ребра, как флип, и полностью находится в воздухе только после того, как совершила уже половину вращения. Это-- неправильная техника, и +5 надбавка, которую, она набрала за прыжок, скажем, на чемпионате России, была из-за этого объективно не заслуженная. Да, у неё красивый и сложный заход и выезд, но качество самого прыжка именно с технической стороны совсем не идеальное. То, что например, Саше Трусовой, у которой лутз хотя бы с внешнего ребра, один судья на ЧР поставил +0, а Анне +5 за так называмый "флутз", вызывает вопросы...
@@jeremiahkopylova3446 эм. Вы вообще выдели катание лизы. Особенно на командном? Приземление с 3-х акселей это ужас просто... Или коляда с позором после ОИ. Вы хотя бы сами не позорьтесь называя их имена. У всех бывают ошибки и не раз...
Elizaveta, Veronika zhilina, Yuzuru, Nathen chen, Yuna Kim.
@@lilahahaha9121 мы говорим про технику, а не про прокаты, щербаботик. вы не соскакивайте. у них идеальная техника, которая дает сложность выполнения. если бы они прыгала зубцовые с ребер, половину оборота делали на льду и недокручивали бы, то они бы тоже приземляли.
Сколько ляпов, грязно и сама понимает, а продолжает так же ляпать.
Thank you for the analysis. And Ana is simply the best. Congratulation.
Me esquece aquela saber de você você esquece você acabou você 😢😢😢😢
Anna Flutzkova😍😍
You are ugly
We can all agree that she needs to work on her jumps. But that does not excuse you to play and degrade people's names. Don't be rude for no reason, it's not like she doesn't know her wrongs and it's not her fault that she's overscored.
She is simply the best.
No she isnt
Nop
The queen 👑
シェルバコワはルッツとフリップさえ良くなれば良いスケーターなのになぁ。
She's a bad spinner as well 🤦🏻♀️
Лучше обсудите чемпионат России, а не эту тренировку!
Так, ещё один ресурсик, разжигающий тихую войнушку против Анны. Самое умилительное, что комментаторы здесь в основном из стран, даже рядом не стоящих по результатам с российским ФК, но критикующие от всей души. Какое ваше собачье дело до внутренних российских соревнований? Учите своих спортсменов правильно выполнять квады, а наши фигуристы без вас обойдутся.
))) Они еще умудряются наших девушек сравнивать качество квадов 4 лутца например с Бояном .... таких как он во всем мире человек 5 наберется)))) Пусть воюют жалко чтоли...... война о правильно лутце и преротейшене идет не первый год)))))
@@user-gm6ub3zw4s Хоть бы кто из них поднял зад и показал, как правильно-то прыгать уже. )))
так их спортсмены не прыгают квады, потому что развивают правильную технику, это же не Россия, где блатной Щербаковой поставили читерскую технику, а судьи довольные судят ее как +5, видя отлично, что Трусова исполняет те же лутцы прекрасно, а получает за это копейки, пока Щербакова внешнего ребра не умеет делать, недокручивает вечно и бежит медальки красть. никто же не нарисует ей прокат, вон лично она делает все ужасно, вопросы к ней
@@elizabethtruthpeace ты извини, но я твой фестиваль логики даже долистывать не стала. Оказывается, страны-аутсайдеры тупо более техничны, потому ничего и не могут. Хоспаде, что только тебе в еду добавляют для подобного "энтузиазма".
Just an envy ))) Our west friends )) Show me your skaters...))) We will beat you always!
если это у нее внешнее ребро, то по какой причине за такое же ребро у Трусовой всегда "!"? это плоское ребро скорее. у обеих плоские, но шишки летят в Трусову.