@@zoeyvanbeek187 Why not 2 or 3 cylinders has nothing to do with running all 3 at the same time... You can have 2 motors run straight ahead only and use the center motor for running and turning...
Truly enjoy comparison video's of different brands & different displacements (# of cylinders), would recommend the same for 2 vs 4-stroke. Keep up the great video's!
Using the same 14" prop isn't that comperable as the gear ratio on these outboards are not the same. The 3-cil Yamaha has 1.85 the 2-cil has 2.08 and the Suzuki 2.27 (not sure about the Suzuki)
@@dylanlivingston5024 the gear ratio is different meaning it is DESIGNED for different props. If you don't understand matching prop pitch and size to outdrives you won't understand why the ratios are such a big deal
Something was not right with it. That 25hp 2cylinder yami comes from Yamaha with a 9 7/8 x11 1/4 prop so a 14 pitch likely is not right for that motor either.
The Suzuki is probably geared much different than the Yamaha's and not allowing the 14 inch pitch prop to turn at the best rpm range for top speed. Or else it just may be out of tune or just a very tired engine.
There is a stop preventing the butterflies from opening all the way on purpose. If it is shaved off, the motor will be a 40 horsepower. However, my husband's Suzuki on a War Eagle 1542 flat-bottom with no jack plate runs 32 mph. You have something wrong with that motor. The three cylinder Suzuki is selling for as much now as when they were new here in Arkansas because they are that strong. Also, not every motor runs as efficiently with the same prop setup.
I live in Batesville Arkansas. I also have a 1542 War Eagle with a 25 Johnson on it. It'll run about 26 mph with just me in it and just over 20 with 2 people.
Also, why is it so high out of the water. It is mounted higher than the other two were. How is the prop supposed to get a "bite" in the water when the prop is blowing out of the water.
the boat market is amazing, you can pickup shit boats with motors, couple easy fixs and mint motor, flick the hull cheap and you end up with a good cheap engine. jet boats are interesting too, lots of shit ones around, pull the units, vapour blast, redo the impeller/wear ring, sell the unit for the cost of the whole boat.
you may find suzuki did that deliberately,if you adjust the mechanism manually,filing etc it makes more horse power,and there choke system works on the middle carb as well normally
WHY WAS THE SUZUKI heavier is it a bigger capacity motor? if so it must produc it rated HP at lower revs IE hopefully longer life? thanks anyway whatever its a good video
Need your help...I have a 1985 25hp Mariner on a 1976 Starcraft Holiday 14 in good shape....My last time out on the water after installing a plate on the lower unit to help plain, when I try to increase rpm's/speed the motor starts to rev-up them immediately trolls back to idle rpm's under load...My mechanice tried out of water and can find not probs...Can you give me some idea of what is happening...please!
In quality, better performance, better engineering, better startup, etc. Suzuki #1 then it doesn't matter who you put second and third.( Yamaha,Mercury ,Honda, Tohatsu)
@thatboatguy I just bought a cherry Yamaha 2cycle short shaft for my 14/36 boat. Love your videos. Any advice for the best jack plate for this type of set up?
Same man, I just got one running like a top. I’d love to know information about a jack plate setup. I have seen some of the manual jack plates and wondered how those would work in comparison to an electric one. My motor is on a 04 Carolina skiff j14. Also any prop information would be very much appreciated
Great vid definitely appreciate the effort that went into comparing 3 different engines on the same boat! Any chance you have some info on the props that were on each motor?
Couple of issues here, big ticket running parallel to shore that close, 2nd lose the parachute for testing, 3rd junk all three a hang a 25 Merc, run circles around all three.
Mercury 25 simply does not have the displacement to hang with 3 cylinder Yamaha or the Suzuki and it also has that pos throttle shifter that's always going out
@@ThatBoatGuy I would weld, sand and paint it. If not that Flex seal liquid rubber works good, and even a combination of flex seal tape. Or just stuff some rags in it. lol
Very informative. Thank you for spening your time and your hard earned money to make my mind up yamaha will have my attention. I will need a good running 40 to 60 tiller motor
If the test was conduted to determine which is the fastest motor from al 3, the water test was conduced erroneously. To be fair which motor achieves the highest top end speed must reprop every motor tested to run at its middle wot revs factory stated while solo or 2 up testing. For that will need to install an induction tach to check max wot revs each motor achieved, then go for a prop maximization. You don't know if same 15 pitch prop used on all 3 motor is a good water performer for each one as don't know at which middle wot rpm each one is revving at. All motors must be 101% healthy and running strong. My 450 Rib powered with a 2 strokes 18 HP Tohatsu propped spot on will leave far behind any of those 3 motors which runs very slow to be 25 HP ones.
Cool video man.maybe next time show your speed on screen or even on your phone. The Suzuki will get to hot if you remove the restrictor without adjusting oil ratio.
IT SEEMS, I'M NOT SURE, THAT THE THREE ENGINES WERE WITH THE PROPELLER TOO MUCH SUBMERGED. IT SEEMS THIS CLEAR, WITH THE LAST ONE, SUZUKI. I HAD ABOUT 20 MODELS OF THIS JON BOATS (HERE WE CALL "ALUMINUIM BOAT"), AND USED 15 AND 25 HP. THE POSITION OF THE PROPRELLER, IS VERY IMPORTANT; IF SUBMERGED, THE BOAT RUN "HEAVY" AND FUEL CONSUMPTION IS GREATER. IN THE OTHER HAND, WHEN THE BOT RUN "EASY" THE FUEL CONSUMPTION IS LOWER, SOMETIMES, VERY LOWER. THIS MAY BE SEEN, WHEN USING A PLANNING BOAT, MADE OF FIBERGLASS, WOOD OR ALUMINIUM. SUCH KIND OF BOAT, MUST RUN FAST, FOR THE PLANNING, IN OTHER WORDS, NEEDS A HIGH POWER TO RUN. AFTER THE PLANNING, GENERALLY AT 18 M/H, IF ONE USE THE POWER TRIM, THE BOAT MAY RUN FASTER, UP TO 4 M/H WITHOUT MOVE THE ACELERATION DEVICE. SIMILAR OCCURS WITH JON BOATS. THIS HAPPEN BECAUSE THE PROPELLER IS ADJUST TO WATER SURFACE.
Regardless of what prop you use, if you refuse to wear a safety lanyard it’s a matter of time before you’re guaranteed never to reach old age . You are obviously an experienced guy on the water but some people who watch your content might think that it’s ok not to be safe! Oh by the way how about wearing a life jacket , especially when out on your own that way I can be sure to be watching your content for years to come 😥
I vote for the Yamaha twin lighter is always better the three cyl made the aft lower in the water bow up not a good thing makes a blat plow. The three cyl was more powerful but the plowing canceled it out and the twin handled better so that's why the twin is better...
I have that Exact Suzuki motor on my 17.5 foot bass Tracker and it will go 25 mph with me and another large adult man. It's a 1990's era boat and motor. I dont think that Suzuki is running properly.
Something is definitely wrong with that Suzuki. Either setup or the overall health of the engine. The Yamaha and Suzuki 25hp triples are very comparable in performance. Mine GPS’d 25mph with 3 people and gear in a 13’ whaler. Vojomatusenko got 28mph on a tracker grizzly 1448...which is pushing almost 600 pounds dry!
Ya but you either have to small of a prop or to big because I have had a 25 Suzuki just like that and it pushed my johnboat 30mph and I have had a 25 Yamaha and it was a little bit slower than my Suzuki
Should have waited till the video was over my Suzuki didn’t have that restrictor on it like that good motor I put mine through hell and back on a 14 tracker it was fast for a 25
The difference on a 25 and 30hp for the Suzuki is the throttle linkage. go here on facebook and talk to these guys. They race the little 3cyl motors all the time. facebook.com/groups/ArkansasTillerHandleOutlaws/
Check tps (throttle position sensor) on the suzuki and adjust it. Let me know i can send you the manual to adjust it. Cut the stopper so the butterflys would lay flat.
That suzuki is definitely not running right.. I have the same exact motor and it pushes my 15 foot jon boat 32 mph.. it has a carburetor for each cylinder which helps the boat jump on plane almost instantly. I raced 40 hp motor and win cause they couldn't reach top speed fast enough to catch me
The Suzuki will be the most powerful. Have you got spark on all 3 cyl? The 25 and 30 3cyl have lots of grunt. Even a 25 suz 3 cyl would have more grunt than the yam. Bet it’s running on 2 cyl or it has poor compression
Dude, wtf are u doing not wearing polarized sunglasses esp in SFL?lol Have you see what the sun can do to cars here? Think lke how your eyes are like the headlights. PROTECT THEM.
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I like the style of the old suzukis. Seriously outboards looked so much cooler back in the day
Run the boat with all three motors at the same time 😛
Not possible bc of the 2 cilinder
@@zoeyvanbeek187 Why not 2 or 3 cylinders has nothing to do with running all 3 at the same time... You can have 2 motors run straight ahead only and use the center motor for running and turning...
Z71Ranger bc 3 cilinder has more power then you get problems with steering
It was pretty hard to run 3 at once, he only had 1 prop.
Truly enjoy comparison video's of different brands & different displacements (# of cylinders), would recommend the same for 2 vs 4-stroke. Keep up the great video's!
Using the same 14" prop isn't that comperable as the gear ratio on these outboards are not the same. The 3-cil Yamaha has 1.85 the 2-cil has 2.08 and the Suzuki 2.27 (not sure about the Suzuki)
ElKlingo yes it is, because this is about the outboards themselves, not just the engines
@@dylanlivingston5024 the gear ratio is different meaning it is DESIGNED for different props. If you don't understand matching prop pitch and size to outdrives you won't understand why the ratios are such a big deal
Need to test the Tohatsu mega 25 against the other 3 cylinder 25s you have
The Suzuki probably has a taller gear ratio requiring a lower pitched prop. Sounded like it was lugging to me.
Something was not right with it. That 25hp 2cylinder yami comes from Yamaha with a 9 7/8 x11 1/4 prop so a 14 pitch likely is not right for that motor either.
@@sdvten Also that was a heavy flat bottom boat.
If you get the Suzuki running correctly and put the correct pitch prop on it’ll walk off and leave the Yamaha’s
Pfffft. Wheres that video? Lol
I’m gonna agree with that. My 98’ DT25C screams.
The Suzuki is probably geared much different than the Yamaha's and not allowing the 14 inch pitch prop to turn at the best rpm range for top speed. Or else it just may be out of tune or just a very tired engine.
But did you put sand in the intake and throw it in the water while running at full throttle?
What size and brand jon boat is this?
There is a stop preventing the butterflies from opening all the way on purpose. If it is shaved off, the motor will be a 40 horsepower. However, my husband's Suzuki on a War Eagle 1542 flat-bottom with no jack plate runs 32 mph. You have something wrong with that motor. The three cylinder Suzuki is selling for as much now as when they were new here in Arkansas because they are that strong. Also, not every motor runs as efficiently with the same prop setup.
I live in Batesville Arkansas. I also have a 1542 War Eagle with a 25 Johnson on it. It'll run about 26 mph with just me in it and just over 20 with 2 people.
Also, why is it so high out of the water. It is mounted higher than the other two were. How is the prop supposed to get a "bite" in the water when the prop is blowing out of the water.
Jennifer Price get out of here. 25 ain’t gonna be one a 40 by shaving anything off
Nice video man keep up the good work🔥🔥🔥👍
Dude...How do you manage to get all these motors?
the boat market is amazing, you can pickup shit boats with motors, couple easy fixs and mint motor, flick the hull cheap and you end up with a good cheap engine.
jet boats are interesting too, lots of shit ones around, pull the units, vapour blast, redo the impeller/wear ring, sell the unit for the cost of the whole boat.
Dude buys from auctions low. fixes them, then sells high
All 3 look like there brand new under the hood. Crazy
Who else was hoping he ran all three together? Seems the thumbnail suggested it.
you may find suzuki did that deliberately,if you adjust the mechanism manually,filing etc it makes more horse power,and there choke system works on the middle carb as well normally
WHY WAS THE SUZUKI heavier is it a bigger capacity motor? if so it must produc it rated HP at lower revs IE hopefully longer life? thanks anyway whatever its a good video
Could be the chassis of the Suzuki might be used in their larger HP model
@@dingomanz7 called a midsection
hey broter how long is that john boat you are using ?
16'
@@ThatBoatGuy thx brother
Cool video, you are great to watch. Don’t see many Suzukis these days
You said you could turn the 25s to 30 hps? Hey ,I'm interested to know how
New prop, adjust the carb, a lot of little things that can help you squeeze an extra couple horsepower out of your motor.
Need your help...I have a 1985 25hp Mariner on a 1976 Starcraft Holiday 14 in good shape....My last time out on the water after installing a plate on the lower unit to help plain, when I try to increase rpm's/speed the motor starts to rev-up them immediately trolls back to idle rpm's under load...My mechanice tried out of water and can find not probs...Can you give me some idea of what is happening...please!
Richard Green Get rid of the plate.
@@melrose9252 Thank You!
Hey bud, I have the same 3 cyl yam. How do you turn it into a 30??
jetting
Great videos Thx! How long is your jon boat, or if someone knows
In quality, better performance, better engineering, better startup, etc. Suzuki #1 then it doesn't matter who you put second and third.( Yamaha,Mercury ,Honda, Tohatsu)
@thatboatguy I just bought a cherry Yamaha 2cycle short shaft for my 14/36 boat. Love your videos. Any advice for the best jack plate for this type of set up?
Same man, I just got one running like a top. I’d love to know information about a jack plate setup. I have seen some of the manual jack plates and wondered how those would work in comparison to an electric one. My motor is on a 04 Carolina skiff j14. Also any prop information would be very much appreciated
What size of boat
Great vid definitely appreciate the effort that went into comparing 3 different engines on the same boat! Any chance you have some info on the props that were on each motor?
The prop that was used was 9 7/8 14 pich
@@ThatBoatGuy Thanks much appreciated!
Nice vid love the idea!
Couple of issues here, big ticket running parallel to shore that close, 2nd lose the parachute for testing, 3rd junk all three a hang a 25 Merc, run circles around all three.
Mercury 25 simply does not have the displacement to hang with 3 cylinder Yamaha or the Suzuki and it also has that pos throttle shifter that's always going out
I run a 2004 Johnson 30hp with 14 pitch prop and it will do 28-31 Mph depending on water conditions
3 cylinders best for torque, try 25hp 4 stroke also
where do you recommend getting parts online for 1998 yamaha 40hp 2 stroke?
Marineengine.com
@@allseriousness thx
Hello, as always very good video, I would only ask you to please tell me about the behavior in the gasoline consumption of the 3 engines.
Thank you.
Three 25's versus one 75 means double the fuel consumption but with only a four or five percent increase in performance.
I like the scenic views of the lake, do that more!
Enjoyed the video!! Have you already cleaned the CC and sold it yet?
My aquasport?
@@ThatBoatGuy no the Pto Line
@@markc4921 its sold
Would you consider selling any?
Ready for more outboard reviews. 😺
29 foot fixer upper would be insane lol im a new subscriber and the videos are all pretty awesome
Why did you rebrand?
Great video 📹
You didn't mention gear ratio
Hey you going scalloping this season? I can not wait till the season opens.
Maybe not sure yet
What hat is that you're wearing?
8:35 is that TP hanging from the bottom?
No I have 2 holes and I used rags to patch it up basically lol
@@ThatBoatGuy I would weld, sand and paint it. If not that Flex seal liquid rubber works good, and even a combination of flex seal tape. Or just stuff some rags in it. lol
Very informative. Thank you for spening your time and your hard earned money to make my mind up yamaha will have my attention. I will need a good running 40 to 60 tiller motor
Where does he sell his engines?
If the test was conduted to determine which is the fastest motor from al 3, the water test was conduced erroneously. To be fair which motor achieves the highest top end speed must reprop every motor tested to run at its middle wot revs factory stated while solo or 2 up testing.
For that will need to install an induction tach to check max wot revs each motor achieved, then go for a prop maximization. You don't know if same 15 pitch prop used on all 3 motor is a good water performer for each one as don't know at which middle wot rpm each one is revving at. All motors must be 101% healthy and running strong.
My 450 Rib powered with a 2 strokes 18 HP Tohatsu propped spot on will leave far behind any of those 3 motors which runs very slow to be 25 HP ones.
is the selt water
Hey can anyone let me know what app he uses to see how fast he is going?
I think they use GPS
Cool video man.maybe next time show your speed on screen or even on your phone. The Suzuki will get to hot if you remove the restrictor without adjusting oil ratio.
IT SEEMS, I'M NOT SURE, THAT THE THREE ENGINES WERE WITH THE PROPELLER TOO MUCH SUBMERGED. IT SEEMS THIS CLEAR, WITH THE LAST ONE, SUZUKI. I HAD ABOUT 20 MODELS OF THIS JON BOATS (HERE WE CALL "ALUMINUIM BOAT"), AND USED 15 AND 25 HP. THE POSITION OF THE PROPRELLER, IS VERY IMPORTANT; IF SUBMERGED, THE BOAT RUN "HEAVY" AND FUEL CONSUMPTION IS GREATER. IN THE OTHER HAND, WHEN THE BOT RUN "EASY" THE FUEL CONSUMPTION IS LOWER, SOMETIMES, VERY LOWER. THIS MAY BE SEEN, WHEN USING A PLANNING BOAT, MADE OF FIBERGLASS, WOOD OR ALUMINIUM. SUCH KIND OF BOAT, MUST RUN FAST, FOR THE PLANNING, IN OTHER WORDS, NEEDS A HIGH POWER TO RUN. AFTER THE PLANNING, GENERALLY AT 18 M/H, IF ONE USE THE POWER TRIM, THE BOAT MAY RUN FASTER, UP TO 4 M/H WITHOUT MOVE THE ACELERATION DEVICE. SIMILAR OCCURS WITH JON BOATS. THIS HAPPEN BECAUSE THE PROPELLER IS ADJUST TO WATER SURFACE.
the suzuki looks like a droid from starwars.LOL
And the pich propeler? Tve y are fundamental in the test.
Regardless of what prop you use, if you refuse to wear a safety lanyard it’s a matter of time before you’re guaranteed never to reach old age . You are obviously an experienced guy on the water but some people who watch your content might think that it’s ok not to be safe! Oh by the way how about wearing a life jacket , especially when out on your own that way I can be sure to be watching your content for years to come 😥
I vote for the Yamaha twin lighter is always better the three cyl made the aft lower in the water bow up not a good thing makes a blat plow. The three cyl was more powerful but the plowing canceled it out and the twin handled better so that's why the twin is better...
I have that Exact Suzuki motor on my 17.5 foot bass Tracker and it will go 25 mph with me and another large adult man. It's a 1990's era boat and motor. I dont think that Suzuki is running properly.
72thelion exactly is no restrictions
@@juanbelloso2242 different gear ratio , so wrong prop for Suzuki.
Adjust the jack plate. It's spraying a lot of tales on the Suzuki
I got a 25 yamaha 4 stroke from Central Marine and put it on a new 1448 Grizzly Tracker it will do 27 GPS
I live 3min away from central marine!
@@ThatBoatGuy I do to
Make the changes on that Suzuki an lets see what it does man!
I think the prop was spinning in the hub on the Suzuki
Something is definitely wrong with that Suzuki. Either setup or the overall health of the engine. The Yamaha and Suzuki 25hp triples are very comparable in performance. Mine GPS’d 25mph with 3 people and gear in a 13’ whaler. Vojomatusenko got 28mph on a tracker grizzly 1448...which is pushing almost 600 pounds dry!
only one i’d choose is the 2 cylinder yamaha
Name change?
It non stop, about the third time
The Suzuki Dt25c only goes half throttle stock.
Ya but you either have to small of a prop or to big because I have had a 25 Suzuki just like that and it pushed my johnboat 30mph and I have had a 25 Yamaha and it was a little bit slower than my Suzuki
never seen a 3 cylinder 25. lots of the 30s but the 25s must be rare
i have a mercury 4stroke 25hp 3 cylinder
Not rare at all. Yamaha tohatsu Johnson and Suzuki made them. Great motors and easily get over 40hp with them.
@@dennismindock6784 Maybe it's just where I live. I was specifically talking about the yamaha 3 cyl 25. Rare to my eyes at least.
@@thedandy6765 i meant 2 smoker
Sebastian Cooke Facebook market place has one with a bad lower unit in yorkville Il for 300
No there’s something wrong with your Suzuki I can tell It isn’t running right wrong prop or something!
Watch the video!!!!!
Yeah ofcourse I commented while still watching then it revealed after I posted lol
If you really want to see a 25 hp war do a search for bayou meto boat race
Your living the life a few of us dream of, good video and useful information thanks.
When you were showing the side by side 2 cylinder and 3 cylinder, was that your brother? He looks so much like you!
You should not lift the engine up so high that it only is caviating and sucking up air.
@ARN Trump2020 why? He is just searching craigslist all day.
Nice!
It kinda looks like the Suzuki was at more of an angle than the other motors? Just a thought, great video
Should have waited till the video was over my Suzuki didn’t have that restrictor on it like that good motor I put mine through hell and back on a 14 tracker it was fast for a 25
The difference on a 25 and 30hp for the Suzuki is the throttle linkage. go here on facebook and talk to these guys. They race the little 3cyl motors all the time. facebook.com/groups/ArkansasTillerHandleOutlaws/
Had the zuke way to high
sad that thing cant hold a yamaha 150, it makes our 22 ft bay boat go 42 mph so imagine the speed you could get.
Dude make sure they running properly dude before comparison
Would would think after a bill of $800 was paid to a marine shop it would be ready to go
Check tps (throttle position sensor) on the suzuki and adjust it. Let me know i can send you the manual to adjust it. Cut the stopper so the butterflys would lay flat.
I noticed it was disconnected
Can you Do a video of that suzuki again
Hy ,you can sent to me also?thanks
The Suzuki sounded like it was missing but...didn't sound healthy at revs...if that Suzuki was healthy it would whip both outboards ✌️
I'm going to look into the suzuki. I know something is wrong
Yea suzuki is like the best outboard to most people. I love them aswell i have a grady white gulfstream 232 and it runs well with twin suzuki 115.
That suzuki is definitely not running right.. I have the same exact motor and it pushes my 15 foot jon boat 32 mph.. it has a carburetor for each cylinder which helps the boat jump on plane almost instantly. I raced 40 hp motor and win cause they couldn't reach top speed fast enough to catch me
Check the trigger in the motor
Thank you i will look into it.
prop is likely wrong the Suzuki gear ratio is different
You may have a blown coil down on 1 cylinder possibly
Trips!!😀
The Suzuki will be the most powerful. Have you got spark on all 3 cyl? The 25 and 30 3cyl have lots of grunt. Even a 25 suz 3 cyl would have more grunt than the yam. Bet it’s running on 2 cyl or it has poor compression
Good compression and spark on all 3 cylinders
Would be great to see a follow up once it’s sorted. Like I say even in detuned 25hp form they go great.
Aren't you worried about your transom breaking?
I thought he was gona try 3 at once.
Suzuki best outborards ever
My 25 yami goes over 32 on my 14 aluminum boat
Remove restrictor thing. Run it.
Сool videos! Where you live&
My 2005 Mercury 2 stroke pushes my 14' boat to 30 M.P.H. G.P.S. speed with 2 people on board
I have an 11' whaler with a Merc 25 and it screams
I have a 25 hp suzuki and mine can do 30 + with 2 people
strap down your trolling motor. Mine came down while i was going 50mph. Not Good
Dookie Suzuki lol, great video man keep up the good work
Not equal comparation
Toney from guyana
Dude, wtf are u doing not wearing polarized sunglasses esp in SFL?lol Have you see what the sun can do to cars here? Think lke how your eyes are like the headlights. PROTECT THEM.
those are engines motors are electric
Nice motor eany for sale