hip-deep in philosophical analysis of the societal values of dogs in a kids cartoon movie. Of course we all know that they're just using the cartoon movie analysis as a way of wooing each other and showing off their egos.
It’s a satirical view of how stupid an Ivy League education makes you. I know because I had that education too. It’s hysterically funny because they take themselves so effing seriously.
The script is bullet proof. What makes this movie work is that the characters are actually speaking their lines as if they were prose from a novel. People don’t actually talk like this. If you keep this perspective in mind, then the characters disappear and become total satire. Besides, when the spoken word is conveyed as if it were the written word, it just allows the dry humor to skyrocket into the next realm. ❤
The exchanges of eye contact and slight but unmistakable facial reactions between Josh and Alice in this scene is some of the sexiest low-key flirting I can remember (0:28, 1:19, 1:36), capped off by that gorgeous hint of a smile followed by eyes cast downward at 2:18. While Whit Stillman's writing is the more lauded half of his writer/director career, the intercutting in this scene (in collaboration with his editor) really shows off his skills behind the camera.
Everyone gets that Tramp is Des in Josh's formulation, but I think Lady is a synthesis of Charlotte and Alice. The part about Lady being great-looking but empty-headed is aimed at Charlotte. When he starts talking about nice girls from sheltered homes falling for the wrong type, he's warning Alice, whom he's in love with. Josh and Alice are the two nicest people in the movie.
I just saw this movie for the first time. It was a 20th anniversary screening and I sat right behind Mr. Stilman. He added Bambi and Lady references to this movie partly because his little daughter was watching Disney classics while he was writing the screenplay. But this scene has to strike a lot of people as a more clever reply to Tarantino's opening to Reservoir Dogs. One can humorously critique Like a Virgin. But Stilman runs circles around Lady and the Tramp.
One of the greatest films made by an American director. By one of the greatest American directors/writers. There is so much Jane Austen in Whit Stillman.
@@daveyboy_ No it doesn't. My older sister was in this kind of social circle in NYC at the same time. I went out with her sometimes, and this is how they acted. I suppose you could do better?
That's kind of Whit Stillman's style. He shows you all of his character's obnoxious flaws and just when you think you would like to kill them, he reveals they're more lovable aspects too.
Why was Des annoyed? It's what makes it so funny to me, he's a womanizer and he's attracted to Alice (Chloe) so he is either trying to prove to himself that he can change or prove to her that he can settle down. Of course he's fooling himself as he isn't faithful to any woman throughout the movie and has a silly cover story to get out of jams. He also knows that Josh is attracted to Alice so he's in competition with him though at this point in the movie neither has made a move.
r u taking your medication? lol this was a movie we picked out as the free one when blockbuster (or was it hollywood video?) was still around and it turned out to be the best one out of the 3 we rented. this s a very well written movie and def. one of my favs. though i would never admit it in public to friends or family i watch chickflicks sometimes :)
Well the new generations don't care gor this type of dialogue, only want to be seen at the new hip place so they can take a lot of pics and let their social media followers know how wonderful their life is
@yoenace it was the very early 80's, for not mention late 70's, and it was bassed on studio 54, and if you could research in photographs, high class fashion was more sophisticated.
I'm not saying I wouldn't hang out with them. If I had money and rich parents and a nice job, I would probably have to. I'm just saying I would have a nervous breakdown. Its a little different.
ha ha nice. You may be very well right, but tacky and depressing people are human too. I tend to relate with the garage trash and punk rock crowd, and they're just as opinionated as more privileged folks. You do realize the contradiction of disagreeing to hang out with snotty disagreeable people. Isn't the condescending attitude going both ways, right? On that note, I doubt I'd hang out with any of these people either.
Jock is a Scottish terrier, he says, "The only admirable character is the little Scotty..." It's not a reference to name but to the type of dog Jock is.
Okay, gotcha. Of course you wouldn't have to do anything you didn't want to. I wouldn't be morally opposed to hanging out with them either, but our tastes in music and most likely movies too would certainly not cause me to gravitate me towards them either. later dude.
No. He got mad over a bullshit dehumanized slandering of the potential of humanity that can be attributed to the nut's depression. It's fucking bullshit and I can totally understand how anyone could get offended by that.
the film can be good, but what a bad recreation of the 80s, for god sake¡¡¡ They seem to be in the 90s with those clothes and hairstyles...kill the responsible.
@@waltkita4562 get what , it was terrible and Kate Bekinsale ? It's a good thing she's hot cause she cant act her way out of a paper bag . The only good thing about this movie was the ending.
The way he delivers the line "I'm really surprised; I think Tramp really changed" gets me every time.
2:21 for anyone who wants to rewatch it
lol
This is classic Whit Stillman. You think you're watching a movie about Disco and all of a sudden you're hip-deep in philosophical and societal values.
hip-deep in philosophical analysis of the societal values of dogs in a kids cartoon movie. Of course we all know that they're just using the cartoon movie analysis as a way of wooing each other and showing off their egos.
It’s a satirical view of how stupid an Ivy League education makes you. I know because I had that education too. It’s hysterically funny because they take themselves so effing seriously.
@@rosezingleman5007 Have you ever been in a room filled with art people?
I love the dialogue in this film. People don't appreciate great films like this anymore.
I do 🙂
The script is bullet proof. What makes this movie work is that the characters are actually speaking their lines as if they were prose from a novel. People don’t actually talk like this. If you keep this perspective in mind, then the characters disappear and become total satire. Besides, when the spoken word is conveyed as if it were the written word, it just allows the dry humor to skyrocket into the next realm. ❤
Tardis!!
The exchanges of eye contact and slight but unmistakable facial reactions between Josh and Alice in this scene is some of the sexiest low-key flirting I can remember (0:28, 1:19, 1:36), capped off by that gorgeous hint of a smile followed by eyes cast downward at 2:18.
While Whit Stillman's writing is the more lauded half of his writer/director career, the intercutting in this scene (in collaboration with his editor) really shows off his skills behind the camera.
This movie was a masterpiece!
Everyone gets that Tramp is Des in Josh's formulation, but I think Lady is a synthesis of Charlotte and Alice. The part about Lady being great-looking but empty-headed is aimed at Charlotte. When he starts talking about nice girls from sheltered homes falling for the wrong type, he's warning Alice, whom he's in love with. Josh and Alice are the two nicest people in the movie.
I just saw this movie for the first time. It was a 20th anniversary screening and I sat right behind Mr. Stilman. He added Bambi and Lady references to this movie partly because his little daughter was watching Disney classics while he was writing the screenplay. But this scene has to strike a lot of people as a more clever reply to Tarantino's opening to Reservoir Dogs. One can humorously critique Like a Virgin. But Stilman runs circles around Lady and the Tramp.
Kate Beckinsale's American accent is one of the best ever by a British actress. Way more authentic than, say, Kate Winslet's in Titanic.
Sorry, but you are out of your mind. She acts several scenes in this movie with a full British accent. It's godawful.
I think most actors can do a pretty good 'other side of the pond' dialect. Except for Dick Van Dyke, Kevin Costner, Ben Kingsley and Liam Neeson.
One of the greatest films made by an American director. By one of the greatest American directors/writers. There is so much Jane Austen in Whit Stillman.
Too bad the acting sucked !
@@daveyboy_ No it doesn't. My older sister was in this kind of social circle in NYC at the same time. I went out with her sometimes, and this is how they acted. I suppose you could do better?
@@annabellevy3388 I can act like they didn't suck and that would be stretching it.
"a self-confessed chicken thief."
the dialogue in this film is pure genious.
I've come to consider this scene the funniest scene in American film.
I'd vote for the ant scene in Barcelona.
One of the greatest comedies that came out that year! Could be titled Yuppie Beginnings.
Chloe's best role ever IMO
That goes for both Chloe & Kate.
I gotta see this again.
That's kind of Whit Stillman's style. He shows you all of his character's obnoxious flaws and just when you think you would like to kill them, he reveals they're more lovable aspects too.
Please make more movies, Stillman!
Lmfao "i hate that movie" right after Kate Beckingsale says she wants kids
get u a guy that can talk about lady in the tranp like that
Great scene.
Why was Des annoyed? It's what makes it so funny to me, he's a womanizer and he's attracted to Alice (Chloe) so he is either trying to prove to himself that he can change or prove to her that he can settle down. Of course he's fooling himself as he isn't faithful to any woman throughout the movie and has a silly cover story to get out of jams. He also knows that Josh is attracted to Alice so he's in competition with him though at this point in the movie neither has made a move.
yes!
Des was a sleazeball. I'm glad Josh ended up with Alice instead.
Shows what Ivy League educations get you.
Beautiful song love 🚂 train 💞
r u taking your medication? lol this was a movie we picked out as the free one when blockbuster (or was it hollywood video?) was still around and it turned out to be the best one out of the 3 we rented. this s a very well written movie and def. one of my favs. though i would never admit it in public to friends or family i watch chickflicks sometimes :)
Kate's american accent is flawless. As brits she owns it.
In this scene, it's passable. If you watch the whole movie, it's godawful. One of the worst I've heard.
Who the fuck talks like this with disco playing in the background 😂
“God you’re nuts.”
Sort of interesting that a few years after the film takes place, 1986, Lady and the Tramp would be rereleased to theaters.
sha11235 86 was a rerelease.
Exactly!
I can't get over how beautiful is Kate Beckinsale in this movie.
classic
Well the new generations don't care gor this type of dialogue, only want to be seen at the new hip place so they can take a lot of pics and let their social media followers know how wonderful their life is
@yoenace it was the very early 80's, for not mention late 70's, and it was bassed on studio 54, and if you could research in photographs, high class fashion was more sophisticated.
I'm going to get a drink.
People don't change
Clap yo hands clap yo hands
Fun fact: Lady and the Tramp's original title was Lady and the bozo.
i got it: Everybody Dabce - Chic, thanks anyway
Using mental health to throw shade twenty years before it became mainstream in American politics.
what's the name of the song in this scene??
Chic - Everybody Dance
@@HBICTiff Thanks 😊
@@gerardoiannuzzo It took 10 years for somebody to respond lol
@@HBICTiff 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Hot Disco movie
I think they took too many drugs in college.
Ya' damn kids smokin' the poo!
hilarious
I'm not saying I wouldn't hang out with them. If I had money and rich parents and a nice job, I would probably have to. I'm just saying I would have a nervous breakdown. Its a little different.
ha ha nice. You may be very well right, but tacky and depressing people are human too. I tend to relate with the garage trash and punk rock crowd, and they're just as opinionated as more privileged folks. You do realize the contradiction of disagreeing to hang out with snotty disagreeable people. Isn't the condescending attitude going both ways, right? On that note, I doubt I'd hang out with any of these people either.
So this is what they talk about at discos, huh? I remember trying to yell over the music to a girl I just met: “So whats your major?”
I agree with his premise but there's no character called 'Scotty' They must be referring to Jock or Trusty.
Jock is a Scottish terrier, he says, "The only admirable character is the little Scotty..." It's not a reference to name but to the type of dog Jock is.
@@ehmunro Of course. Thank you. Boy is my face red.
I totally agreed with the social commentary but not sure what was the underlying message of the dialogue? Why does he get so pissed off about it?
Dez? Cause he's basically "tramp" and he sees it through Josh's description.
Right.
Okay, gotcha. Of course you wouldn't have to do anything you didn't want to. I wouldn't be morally opposed to hanging out with them either, but our tastes in music and most likely movies too would certainly not cause me to gravitate me towards them either. later dude.
team the li’l scottie
No. He got mad over a bullshit dehumanized slandering of the potential of humanity that can be attributed to the nut's depression. It's fucking bullshit and I can totally understand how anyone could get offended by that.
I think its tacky, not to mention depressing.
I wish they’d just shut up and dance
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
whit Stillman's obvious conservatism coming through. Still enjoyed this scene though.
Yeah, but like how many conservative filmmakers are there in the Western world? So, good for him!
Oh, bohoo, the horror, a conservative film maker, they shoudz all beez LGBT----lez all thinkz the zame.
the film can be good, but what a bad recreation of the 80s, for god sake¡¡¡ They seem to be in the 90s with those clothes and hairstyles...kill the responsible.
Twat.
I was a college kid in the early 80s in NYC and I dressed like that - as did most of my friends.
Disco sucks! Disco sucks! Disco sucks!
Cardboard acting. Ugh.
You have no idea what you're talking about.
@@waltkita4562 I just watched it again and it still sucks.
except chloe's performance. this is classic stillman. very "dialouguey" movies. people just talk. not much action.
@@drinkingpoolwater I can appreciate that. I just thought the acting wasn't very good.
God this movie sucked !
You aren't smart enough to get it. It's ok. Someone still loves you, I'm sure.
@@waltkita4562 get what , it was terrible and Kate Bekinsale ? It's a good thing she's hot cause she cant act her way out of a paper bag . The only good thing about this movie was the ending.
@@waltkita4562 and why does everyone have a 90's haircut ?