The Zodiac Killer's Secret Message w/ Scott Bobbitt

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  • @BlackBoxOnlineRadio
    @BlackBoxOnlineRadio  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Hello All. There are some announcements at the beginning. The interview will begin at 07:15 . Thanks again to Scott for coming on the channel.

  • @profoundwill43
    @profoundwill43 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Super fascinating listen. The young age is a concern to me, considering the knowledge he would need to make these intricacies, but not impossible. Hopefully there are more episodes with Scott. I think he might be too loose on his connecting all these murders to the Zodiac, but he does put it as his "belief". I really like the artistic analysis on the letters and the cable guy analogy.

  • @stevebagley3436
    @stevebagley3436 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I’m fascinated by Scott’s approach and definitely want to hear more. An aerial view makes sense for so many things. The front cover 14 on the skeleton’s hand is interesting when related to his idea. The 14 upside down is “hi” and could serve as a clue to look at the card upside down for clues within, which Scott did. N33LH is a nice find. Can’t wait to see and hear more

  • @donspain7888
    @donspain7888 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Fascinating theory,outside the box,and makes some sense too.Cant wait to hear more

  • @Jerome_MysterB
    @Jerome_MysterB 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Great interview, Great guest, Great show, Great host. Ned, you Rock my friend 🎉❤

  • @OLEKBambo
    @OLEKBambo หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Wow..first time I hear a guy who is so sure about his theory. interesting for sure

  • @chriss8206
    @chriss8206 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    The most interesting thing about the theory with numbers on the halloween card, if you look at the T and the word teen, it does look like it was written as an L with an additional line added to the leg of the L to make the T. You must look carful

  • @samfisher7040
    @samfisher7040 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Thanks for the mention Ned! Keep up the good work!

    • @EdEdwardsCiphers
      @EdEdwardsCiphers 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      You were shouted out? I must have missed that part.

    • @samfisher7040
      @samfisher7040 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@EdEdwardsCiphers Yes around 3:55 or 3:58 he gave me a shout out. Where can I find more info in Ed Edwards do you have a website?

  • @silverstuff182
    @silverstuff182 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Ned, I think I’m not wrong if I say that very few of us understand the whole bit with the radians, Mt. Diablo etc. Please consider starting out a Zodiac Monday with an explanation. I find it very frustrating trying to evaluate what Z was doing with the map stuff. Thanks so much

  • @bhiggins66
    @bhiggins66 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    "Dr. Benson stated that he was called to The White Horse Hotel soon after 9.20, on Saturday evening. Deceased was dead on his arrival. Her clothing was saturated with blood, and there was a 2½ inches by 3 inches wound on the left breast, whilst several ribs were smashed. A large cavity was formed In the thorax. The full charge from the gun had entered her chest at close range, from close range. Death was instantaneous, and due to haemorrage and shock. The wound was consistent with having been caused by the charge of a sporting gun such as that produced.”
    The White Horse Murder - September 1922

    • @meesosolly
      @meesosolly หลายเดือนก่อน

      ❤🎉😊🎉❤😊🎉❤

  • @quentinbroom5844
    @quentinbroom5844 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Thankyou Ned! Very interesting!

  • @theanthonyrrmillsshow3876
    @theanthonyrrmillsshow3876 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    36:15 It was I who discussed (in a video that I did a year ago) the possible wind/ weather symbols in the mountain/ valley/ brand symbol from the Zodiac symbol.

    • @bobbittscott
      @bobbittscott 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I read the wind barb clue in 2018 not a video

    • @ZODIACTHEFACEOFEVIL-wt5mi
      @ZODIACTHEFACEOFEVIL-wt5mi 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      can you post that video Please? I also noticed that wind speed indicators look like the strange symbol. Do you know the C-DOJ report and some of the contemporaneous newspaper articles considered Zodiac was using meteorological symbols in his ciphers?

    • @bobbittscott
      @bobbittscott 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Like I said it wasn’t a video. I read it on a blog

    • @mydogs5040
      @mydogs5040 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Solar Cross. I am positive. Everything with him is solar, if you saw the last 16 lines of Z340 it told you.

  • @SuperStrik9
    @SuperStrik9 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Enjoyed the interview.

  • @Jack123-n7q
    @Jack123-n7q 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Another great show, thanks for featuring all these various authors/researchers. It's appreciated.
    How about an interview with Batman66 about his book and suspects the Farleys?

  • @awidevarietyofthings
    @awidevarietyofthings 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Would've been nice to hear who the suspect was

  • @CoopersDescent
    @CoopersDescent 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Those who question the mason connection here’s a few others that had that connection-
    Lawrence Bittaker
    John Wayne Gacy
    Harold Shipman
    Fred West
    Francesco Bruno
    Robin Gecht
    Peter Sutcliffe
    Thomas Hamilton
    Paul Bernardo
    Edmund Kemper
    Wayne Williams
    Albert Fish, his father was Captain Randall Fish, 32nd-degree Mason

  • @15lee89
    @15lee89 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    That was awesome

  • @mattm6580
    @mattm6580 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I think the Halloween card had references to past crimes but little else. At that point hed killed 4 teens and at the lake Berryessa murders he hid behind a tree - hence the eyes in the tree in the card

  • @ZODIACTHEFACEOFEVIL-wt5mi
    @ZODIACTHEFACEOFEVIL-wt5mi 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Great video and I like a lot of Scott's observations, but a Zodiac suspect born in 1946 is pretty young to be honest when compared to the man the Robbin's and Fouke observed at Presidio Heights Oct 11th 1969

    • @NUKEHOAX2024OFFICIAL
      @NUKEHOAX2024OFFICIAL 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ZODIACTHEFACEOFEVIL-wt5mi WHY DO YOU KEEP CITING THESE WITNESSES WHEN THEIR CREDIBILITY HAS ALREADY BEEN IRREFUTABLY SHREDDED IN RESPONSE TO YOUR COMMENTS BEFORE?

  • @Jared_Wignall
    @Jared_Wignall 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Zodiac Monday is always awesome and I like the interview with Scott. It’s always interesting to hear what people have to say about Zodiac. Keep up the great work Ned, I hope you’re doing well. Please take care!

  • @christophervaldez8746
    @christophervaldez8746 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Good interview, but why the hell does this guy keep bringing up Jim Carrey's character in The Cable Guy??😂

  • @Mega_Trond
    @Mega_Trond 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I have a house right where a murder happend, so i have to be guilty.. 😂

  • @tonysmith3556
    @tonysmith3556 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Alfred E Neuman is a red herring. It is not enciphered its just AEN. Wouldnt it be in code

    • @mydogs5040
      @mydogs5040 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Z13 doesnt have a name there. The name was in Z340 and Z408 and it is his true name.

    • @EdEdwardsCiphers
      @EdEdwardsCiphers 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Tony stop making sense, it won't break through.

  • @bobbittscott
    @bobbittscott 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    So I’ve read most of the comments on here. I just wanted to clarify that a lot has happened since Ned and I recorded this show. There is many legal issues that have to be addressed before certain things can be revealed publicly because this person of interest is alive. And there are other things you will understand when more is revealed why we couldn’t address everything yet though the answers are coming. I understand everyone’s skepticism because we’ve all waited along time for answers. But when these things come to light and they will soon . This case was a lot of work and the information is proprietary. So you just have to wait.

    • @BlackBoxOnlineRadio
      @BlackBoxOnlineRadio  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@bobbittscott Thanks for sharing Scott.

    • @profoundwill43
      @profoundwill43 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I would rather your suspect be correct than just another name thrown out there. Names are exciting but there's so many of them. Keep up the good work on your research and maybe we'll all get lucky and learn the truth someday.

  • @aaronaragon7838
    @aaronaragon7838 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This guy has a plausible theory of Herr Zodiac. Very interesting.

  • @joelmahan
    @joelmahan 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    If you look closer There’s half a face on the left and half a mask on the right on the top of the dripping pen😎

    • @bobbittscott
      @bobbittscott 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Circle images and post please

    • @joelmahan
      @joelmahan 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Idk to circle Here’s a close up😎

  • @drewblahnik5859
    @drewblahnik5859 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Somebody keep an eye on that Arthur Leigh Allen. Always seems like a suspicious character.

    • @tonysmith3556
      @tonysmith3556 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      I have both eyes on ALA. Who else stores bombs under his house and is just a misunderstood peado with the same cars as Z drove. The most telling thing being the way he volunteers info unsolicited from toschi and Armstrong I think it was who went to see him at his factory job. The most dangerous game , lake berryesa bloody knives excuse.

    • @Daniel-me2vu
      @Daniel-me2vu 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      And The Zodiac Watch with the symbol used by the killer ?

    • @tonysmith3556
      @tonysmith3556 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Daniel-me2vu absolutely, he also lied about when he got that (just after he lost his timex in Riverside). Also a gold Z signet ring...and whether people believe him or not Mike Mageau said that's the man who shot me. He could have picked out anyone. Why did police include Leighs pic in the first place....because he was the police prime suspect....and went awfully quiet after the search warrant. Yes its him for me.

    • @_andre007
      @_andre007 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Daniel-me2vuthat was gifted to him

    • @NickyMetropolis1313
      @NickyMetropolis1313 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@tonysmith3556there is circumstantial evidence against Allen, Marshall, Gyke and even Don Cheney.

  • @ericcrook5971
    @ericcrook5971 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Interesting theory. Would like to know more

  • @horrordiaries8651
    @horrordiaries8651 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This makes me question everything... How many unsolved cases are out there

  • @DakotaAsher-n6i
    @DakotaAsher-n6i 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Donna Lass was said to have been flying at least a couple times with another woman and two men from the SF Bay area.

  • @robertm8380
    @robertm8380 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hey Ned I was thinking about movies where a friend becomes a snitch and ends up in a bad situation. I was thinking maybe that's what happen to the two taxi drivers maybe they both knew the Zodiac

  • @silverstuff182
    @silverstuff182 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I’m listening to the guest talk about possible airplane connections. Where is The Zodiac? The astrological Zodiac us in the SKY.
    Look at his symbol. Isn’t that the symbol used on a plane to show the horizon?

  • @platec4798
    @platec4798 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Scott is quite likely onto something! I have long suspected that there are multiple players involved in the Zodiac killings. The non disclosed person that he is talking about may or may not be part of a bigger picture.
    On a point of interest, the US Airforce had a program at one time called ZODIAC. The primary purpose of this program was to DE-CYPHER hieroglyphics off of UFO aircrafts. It is quite apparent that the person(s) involved had an Airforce background.
    Sadly, I think law enforcement has closed the door on the Zodiac investigation, be it officially or un-officially. If it ever gets solved it will be someone or a series of people from within the community. In fact, I would go so far as to say that there are those that don't want it to ever be solved due to the exposure of who is involved.
    I think what Scott has to say warrants a second look by investigators and on line investigative sleuths.
    Plate C

    • @bobbittscott
      @bobbittscott 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thx platec. I never heard of the air force program zodiac. I will research thx for the lead!!!!!

    • @platec4798
      @platec4798 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@bobbittscott Glad to be of help. You need to get a book written by Tom O’Neil titled: Chaos, Charles Manson, the CIA and the history of the sixties.
      In that book, Tom makes a Zodiac connection and may not have been aware of it. I’m not saying Manson was the Zodiac, but there was a lot going on in the 60’s and one very popular Zodiac suspect crossed paths with someone named in that book.
      Now we have your suspect, another Airforce guy…. What a coincidence.
      It’s worth the read.
      Plate C

  • @DakotaAsher-n6i
    @DakotaAsher-n6i 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wasn't Donna Lass flying with another woman and two men from the SF Bay area?
    Both feet have triple six. The skeletons hand is also doing it 👌
    If a person is looking for numbers and symbolism that's definitely significant, especially given the nature of the guests claims about airplanes, airports, etc. clearance needed

    • @mydogs5040
      @mydogs5040 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Zodiac would have never ever gotten clearance to fly. Zodiac, per his background check, is a domestic terrorist. That is the red box that comes up right away. You cannot fly if you have something like that.

  • @kevinlong7559
    @kevinlong7559 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Didnt Donna Lass fly w a guy from SF??Surely he'd have knowledge of runway layout

    • @bobbittscott
      @bobbittscott 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Please send me link to your reference if you feel inclined. I would like to see this . Thx!!!

  • @jacobschulte7907
    @jacobschulte7907 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I wanna know the name need the name whose your suspect ?

    • @bobbittscott
      @bobbittscott 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It’s coming. A book is in the making at this time and there a legal issue being dealt with because he is still alive. I understand people want many things. I want to be able to share the information right now too. But with the way the world works things must be done in order. Point is we will have to wait but it is coming

    • @mydogs5040
      @mydogs5040 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@bobbittscott He is dead Bobbitt, if you think he is alive, you have the wrong guy.

    • @OLEKBambo
      @OLEKBambo หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@mydogs5040lol

  • @joshmac1941
    @joshmac1941 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This guy as soon he starts talking about something he jumps off it.. And for a person who claims to of stepped away from all this for two years but has this suspect that he doesn’t name which I get due to legality issues and what not... But has this book coming out.. I personally do not take anything of value from what he’s gotta say or write about. I enjoy these podcast but like one other person mentioned this fell flat. And was more confusing then anything. I still think Richard Hoffman is worth thinking about maybe he had a partner in this to make that call to the parents.. birds of a feather flock together. But the way Richard in that documentary almost romanticizes about the bra and the air raises some weird ass red flags..

  • @cathyvickers-morton344
    @cathyvickers-morton344 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    This guy is all over the map. Ned seems confused

  • @kairchefamp6059
    @kairchefamp6059 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I think his Zodiac suspect is Robert Hansen

    • @BlackBoxOnlineRadio
      @BlackBoxOnlineRadio  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@kairchefamp6059 He is not. Scott will reveal his suspect soon.

    • @kairchefamp6059
      @kairchefamp6059 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@BlackBoxOnlineRadio Ok I’m just guessing because of he said planes and he somewhat looks like the picture.

    • @noelmaher6218
      @noelmaher6218 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      44 mins in. The suspect was allegedly " in all the newspapers " , in the headlines because he wanted to join the Jehovah's Witnesses. This was sometime in 1966. He was allegedly court martialed 7 times and the Navy threatened to kill him. Seemingly he was jailed around this time also. So whoever it is it should be possible to trace him if anyone was actually listening to the interview! Scott claims this story was world news at the time. Personally I'll wait for proper DNA testing as everything else in the Zodiac case seems to lead nowhere.

    • @OLEKBambo
      @OLEKBambo หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      he said that his name had never been mentioned before

  • @Daniel-me2vu
    @Daniel-me2vu 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I just don’t understand how people seem to negate Michael Magueas identification of Arthur Lee Allen and it’s a fact on film from the investigator who showed Maguea the line up documented in the film on TH-cam “ His name was Arthur Lee Allen “

    • @tonysmith3556
      @tonysmith3556 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I don't get it either, it's verbatim what he said at the time of being asked. Be difficult to make it up retrospectively wouldn't you say ?

    • @DavidLindsay-e7h
      @DavidLindsay-e7h 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Mague changed his story over the years, was himself involved in criminal activity that very evening and might've said whatever someone pressured him to say, he's not reliable.

    • @Daniel-me2vu
      @Daniel-me2vu 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@DavidLindsay-e7h so he lied to law enforcement?

    • @aaronaragon7838
      @aaronaragon7838 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Mageau was an unsavory type and fingered ALA decades later...worthless testimony. Richard Hoffman, the cop, seems like the guy who almost wasted him due to jealousy over his date.

    • @HiNRGboy
      @HiNRGboy 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@aaronaragon7838 yeah I agree with that too

  • @NUKEHOAX2024OFFICIAL
    @NUKEHOAX2024OFFICIAL 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    “All the handwriting analysis, all the DNA analysis”
    This guy has sooooo much more research to do. What DNA are you talking about, sir?
    What handwriting analysis?
    Have you personally conducted any at all?

    • @bobbittscott
      @bobbittscott 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@NUKEHOAX2024OFFICIAL hi . Sorry if I didn’t meet your standards of the case . There was a lot we didn’t reveal yet so I can definitely understand why you feel what you say you do. I hope when we release the rest of the results it will satisfy your curiosity. As far as the dna you mentioned the only real conclusive dna that they have of zodiac is a partial profile that was retrieved from him licking his postage stamps. It is not useful for including anyone as a suspect though it is what is used to clear suspects. This is the main thing that was used to clear ALA . There are more reasons I feel the way I do but that is what I was referring to on the show. If you have some original ideas of your own I would love to hear it . Thx

    • @NUKEHOAX2024OFFICIAL
      @NUKEHOAX2024OFFICIAL 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@bobbittscott what is your source that the partial profile is from the author licking the stamps? How do you KNOW that for sure? Are you sure?
      I’m about proof, not pride, so I’ll save you waiting for my reply.
      The partial profile is NOT saliva from the back of a postage stamp.
      In fact, all indications (including the SFPD’s further actions) suggest the profile is completely bunk, and taken from the FRONT of the stamp.
      Hence why SFPD still has not ruled out Allen

    • @bobbittscott
      @bobbittscott 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Proof is Allen was never charged. Which means they didn’t have enough to charge him. What the police and fbi actually have will never be shared with the public until the case is formally announced solved. I never said ala wasn’t zodiac. I just said he is not my poi. Everyone has their own favorite person and it sounds like ala is yours . If you can display on the air or a new book like I am I would love to see it with an open mind . When you see what’s coming down the pipe with the greeting cards I think you will appreciate a whole new angle no one has put out there. Will it solve the case? Maybe. I don’t know but it does solve parts of the case. Which is more than most can claim. But you will have to wait. It is my work of what I bring to the table and I am interested In Protecting my work which is why I’m not sharing everything right now only for it to be stolen by others who will claim they solved the parts I bring to the table.

    • @bobbittscott
      @bobbittscott 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I don’t claim to be an authority of this case or any case. What I bring to this is my perspective and believe it’s valuable to the case. My hope is everyone interested will take my pieces of this puzzle and collectively solve this . Even if my poi is him I would never claim to have single handed solved it , or that my perspective is more valuable than anyone else’s. I hope you bring the final piece to close the case . If not no worries. Point is some people come on here combative in the comments and I don’t wish to engage.

    • @NUKEHOAX2024OFFICIAL
      @NUKEHOAX2024OFFICIAL 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@bobbittscott ive ranted about allen and zodiac. Both have playlists on my channel

  • @jacobschulte7907
    @jacobschulte7907 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    ALA connected to mare island as well isn’t he ?

    • @paulscape72
      @paulscape72 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Through his father yes. His brother was born on Mare Island.

    • @johnbowman-1
      @johnbowman-1 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Arthur Leigh Allen also served at Mare Island as part of his eight years of honorable service. I published all of Allen’s military records in The Allen Files. Ned did a review of it in April.

    • @paulscape72
      @paulscape72 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@johnbowman-1 Ever find out if his brother served any time in military?

    • @johnbowman-1
      @johnbowman-1 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I was told he didn’t but haven’t bothered to do a records check to verify that.

  • @bhiggins66
    @bhiggins66 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

  • @CROWOLF87
    @CROWOLF87 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Z Z
    NZN NNN
    Z Z

  • @trekscape8550
    @trekscape8550 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Why didn't this guy talk in detail about his suspect - I was disappointed with this and felt it made the whole interview feel flat.

  • @silverstuff182
    @silverstuff182 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    He’s a reacher alright .
    I stuck with it but every time you asked him to address a specific issue he veered way off. Just when I had had about enough the show ended.

  • @mountdigital
    @mountdigital 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Dude, when The Cable Guy is your diving off point for psychoanalysis, you’ve got a big rock to roll up Zodiac hill

    • @EdEdwardsCiphers
      @EdEdwardsCiphers 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      So you're saying there's a chance?