Forging Arrowheads - BorntoForge -

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  • This weeks Episode, Forging three types of arrowheads. War Bodkins, Flat diamond heads and Needle Bodkins.
    Material
    Steel - 10mm square, length (as long as it needs to be)
    Before you all start bitching in the comments i know they are not mounted correctly, they will be cleaned up, finished and mounted for display,
    Hope you find it interesting, if you have any ideas for future videos let me know in the comments below.
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  • @fightinandirish
    @fightinandirish 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    So much work for the humble arrow head to end up God knows where. Great stuff.

  • @peteryoung9044
    @peteryoung9044 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Thank you for taking the time to make this!! Super helpful to see the different styles and strategies to take on each type.

  • @trentszeponski1394
    @trentszeponski1394 7 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    I love the music of the forge and hammer on hot metal vs anvil including the background sound of wood block and drum.

  • @arklanuthoslin
    @arklanuthoslin 7 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    and in a single day of fighting they'd use, and not recover, how many of these?! oh my heart...

    • @HipposHateWater
      @HipposHateWater 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Now you know why I cherish my sling.

    • @leeknivek
      @leeknivek 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      ? why would they not recover them? there is likely a week's worth of work just to make the iron for, say, 50 heads. then the forging, the hafting, the flighting. purchasing arrows perhaps would have been even more expensive than it is to go out today and purchase rifle bullets - because everything was done from scratch on such a small scale.

    • @stefanodogg280
      @stefanodogg280 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      How many bullets do modern fighters recover? The price of war

    • @randomcow505
      @randomcow505 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      super late reply but
      the casings usually are recovered by someone especially in poorer countries as they can sell the brass on or use it for something else, or reload them if they have the equipment and this can net them some kind of living
      the reason bullets themselves aren't recovered by some poor sod is because its not worth it, they are usually embedded deep in something or another so can't really be recovered
      arrows on the other hand will have a nice wooden marker sticking out of whatever they are stuck in
      and lets say you are some poor peasant living close to where a battle has happened or maybe a soldier going around picking up the spoils of the battle, why not grab the arrows? someone or other is gonna buy them from you maybe a fletcher looking to get some cheep heads or a hunter looking for some cheap arrows
      I mean dont get me wrong, im sure millions of arrows went un recovered, but Im sure many of them were gathered back up by someone and reused

    • @ateleskier7066
      @ateleskier7066 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@leeknivek They were usually recovered. People were paid to fetch them, including digging them out of corpses (often horses). Arrows were very valuable due their cost as multi-person assembly items: bodger (shafts), blacksmith (arrowheads, called 'piles'), fletcher (flights or feathers plus the nock into which the bowstring - made by a 'stringfellow' - was placed). Sometimes arrows would be assembled by the same person (arrowsmith) but often they were moved about the country in bundles of incomplete items. Because of their value it wasn't unusual for final assembly to be near the point of storage, for example the Tower of London in the case of the Hundred Years War. They would be stored in sealed wooden barrels where possible with leather separaters to prevent the fletchings being crushed and avoiding damage from moths etc.
      It's interesting looking at the results from detectorists and archaeologists doing work in the vicinity of known battle areas such as Crecy and Agincourt where large numbers of arrows were known to have been used; so few arrowheads seem to turn up. Often that's just due to 600 years of corrosion, but nevertheless I'd have expected to see more evidence than seems to be spoken of. Or maybe they find loads and don't bother reporting it? I doubt it though.
      Making an arrow from scratch using authentic materials takes _ages_. Finding a straight piece of ash or knot-free birch (pine is a nightmare), seasoning it, splitting it with a froe, shaping it with a drawknife (and trying to get the weight-forward taper), nocking it with a cow horn slice using rabbit hide glue (which you've boiled yourself over a fire and mixed with some verdigris scraped off that bit of copper you left in the rain around the back of the garage), chasing about the countryside trying to find someone with white geese and willing to sell you pairs of primaries from the right-hand wing, fletching the shaft, binding it with hemp thread, gluing on the pile and then hoping it all holds together when you shoot it. Ugh. Lead and gunpowder is so much easier....

  • @drason69
    @drason69 7 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Nicely done. Do them in equal weights and sell them to historic archers

  • @rudyduee6849
    @rudyduee6849 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Un vrai forgeron, quel talent, bravo ! Je vais essayer mais avec un barbecue, j' ai déjà l' enclume ! Merci pour ces images.

  • @w0t3rdog
    @w0t3rdog 7 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    And this, is why there was such a thing as a fletcher. Imagine the amounts of arrows in a castles storerooms. Or the amounts carried by the english at agincourt... people made a living off of making arrows.

    • @ThiccboiSalmon
      @ThiccboiSalmon 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Bit late but yes, but don't forget no fletcher is complete without his arrowsmith and bowyer buddies :)

    • @ThiccboiSalmon
      @ThiccboiSalmon 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Abu Troll al cockroachistan I think you maybe right, as battle sites yield very little arrowheads even allowing for corrosion. Metal is metal and iron was a valuable commodity so it stands to reason that at least sometimes of the heads would be reused.

  • @paulorchard7960
    @paulorchard7960 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Novelty item that will draw interest, cool in anyones book!

  • @Antipodean33
    @Antipodean33 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Now thats an anvil. Excellent workmanship mate

  • @zacharylovelady9265
    @zacharylovelady9265 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is so enjoyable to watch

  • @ateleskier7066
    @ateleskier7066 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Fabulous to watch. You make it look really easy. (It isn't.)
    Thank you.

  • @matthewnorwood1384
    @matthewnorwood1384 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You make this look easy, I have no experience but I'm certain it is not.

  • @WisdomShortvids
    @WisdomShortvids ปีที่แล้ว

    Subbed because of this video such craftsmanship thanks

  • @graveltheblock5578
    @graveltheblock5578 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Damn. Isabelle is now making arrows.

  • @jens-eriklangstrand1689
    @jens-eriklangstrand1689 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is how - and no jabbing and no fuck-face self endorsement. I can use this in teaching. Tx mister. Btw - the peening should end in a perfect triangle that would close the cone - or forge-welded overlapping - what do you think?

  • @nord4338
    @nord4338 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    What talent; a pleasure to watch. Thank you.

  • @foisalahmmed6345
    @foisalahmmed6345 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    awesome thanks for sharing....

  • @scottleft3672
    @scottleft3672 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    swords into ploughsheers....and arrows into.....chisels.

    • @masonmp1889
      @masonmp1889 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      no they would stay arrows just used for hunting

  • @gbaughman3348
    @gbaughman3348 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    have you ever welded the sockets, if so did you have any trouble burning the steel. I think I will try a thin socket maybe use some US 1018 to start with.

  • @Kurogane_666
    @Kurogane_666 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    What size metal did you start with? im trying to make 1 1/4 inches wide finished, but id liek to have 1 1/2 wide broadheads

  • @Fae2705
    @Fae2705 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like the long tip!!!!

    • @javanbybee4822
      @javanbybee4822 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      its meant to go through soft armour.

  • @mikec3820
    @mikec3820 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    i lamp work boro(pyrex) wild how it almost moves like hard glass when seen at this speed. pottery metal glass are all similar in ways

  • @freundlicherfalmer8375
    @freundlicherfalmer8375 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Looks like you´ll need a quite powerful bow to effectively shoot these i guess

    • @goodgirl99us
      @goodgirl99us 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      most bows when these were used were 50-75lb draws or 150lb crossbows

    • @Jvha761
      @Jvha761 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Raquel Bauman actually warbows were 100-130lb. That lancel head were used with warbows ^^

    • @mustafakara7739
      @mustafakara7739 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      FreundlicherFalmer I forged one of these arrowheads and i shoot them with my handmade pvc pipe 40 pound bow. It works really well

    • @wk9953
      @wk9953 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Raquel Bauman and crossbows were in the 300lb to 1000lb range with 300 lb being considered hunting weight

    • @sandervanduren2779
      @sandervanduren2779 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Raquel Bauman you do realize that longbows found on the wreck of the Mary Rose, that have been sitting underwater for literally 500 years were around 100 pounds when tested. It was estimated that before these bows are submerged, they would pull about 160-180 pounds.

  • @jeffreycarter1223
    @jeffreycarter1223 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’d like to see it done not as sped up and with a little bit of spoken information about the technique used and measurements of steel used for the collar and tip

  • @link12365
    @link12365 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Really cool!

  • @stefanodogg280
    @stefanodogg280 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wonderful. I'm going to have a full woodshop and forge soon and basically I'm an info sponge right now

  • @konstantinzhdanov5461
    @konstantinzhdanov5461 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    great! 👍

  • @idegila3153
    @idegila3153 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice

  • @gonzalomauriciolara9931
    @gonzalomauriciolara9931 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very good your video

  • @mateuseliastemporim4358
    @mateuseliastemporim4358 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Parabens uma arte milenar que ainda existe.

  • @Gurudwara-ataksar_sahib-bhupal
    @Gurudwara-ataksar_sahib-bhupal 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good job

  • @alexrocharamos2908
    @alexrocharamos2908 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Parabéns muito bom trabalho

  • @kennethkustren9381
    @kennethkustren9381 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    My simple question... why not 3 or more lengths in the fire ??? WTF !!??

  • @bikedream6664
    @bikedream6664 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    What is the diameter of the iron bar please ?

  • @JackRobin86
    @JackRobin86 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    You really need to dress the face of your crosspeen hammer into a very slight dome. Apart from the dressed edges, it looks completely flat.

    • @phoenixforge5944
      @phoenixforge5944  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      KyleG. Got lots of different crosspeins to choose from thats my favourite for this job. Lets you get right in the corner

    • @ateleskier7066
      @ateleskier7066 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@phoenixforge5944 Someone telling a craftsman, whose film we just watched, how to do it better always makes me smile.

  • @davestrider9535
    @davestrider9535 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    guessing that's just mild steel right?

    • @phoenixforge5944
      @phoenixforge5944  7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The originals would have just been Wrought Iron for the most part but these are made from EN8

    • @davestrider9535
      @davestrider9535 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      alright, so you think some crappy steel like rebar or something would work?

    • @drason69
      @drason69 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Rebar will work. But remember, rebar is different from one batch to the next.

    • @davestrider9535
      @davestrider9535 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      oh yea definitely, but if it's for arrowheads that can be reshaped and only occasionally suffer impact then it should be alright. thanks a bunch!

    • @javanbybee4822
      @javanbybee4822 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@davestrider9535 yes just quench the rebar to try and get some hardness from it. coil spring also works amazing!

  • @woodslore8537
    @woodslore8537 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    The steel you are using, is it just square stock. Say like you would find at a local hardware store?

    • @leeknivek
      @leeknivek 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      yes, but if you buy steel, buy it at a steel supplier. 20 feet of 1/2" square is, like, $13 at a steel supplier. four feet of 1/2" square at home depot is probably the same or more.

  • @thangninja
    @thangninja 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Đẹp

  • @einarvolsung2202
    @einarvolsung2202 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    very nice

  • @johnclaudio8799
    @johnclaudio8799 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think I'll do one, but with a different way

    • @ryandejong7374
      @ryandejong7374 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think I’ll just go to the store and buy them

  • @user-jk8jq8dt9q
    @user-jk8jq8dt9q 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Молодец, очень понравилось.

  • @etanateixeira3045
    @etanateixeira3045 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    👍👍👍

  • @gamefactory6227
    @gamefactory6227 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    i need only eghait?

  • @taxidrivercarl6074
    @taxidrivercarl6074 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That noise through the video felt like a smoke alarm going off 😖
    Great video but I had to mute it

  • @cookingmarine7911
    @cookingmarine7911 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    how long does it take to make each Arrowhead?

    • @phoenixforge5944
      @phoenixforge5944  7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You could do it in about 3 heats, depends how much you practice say 5 minutes ish for a bodkin

    • @kkirschkk
      @kkirschkk 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      so do you know how much in historical times [lets say 1200 ce] each would sell for?

    • @kennethkustren9381
      @kennethkustren9381 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      each takes the time it takes, your arm, the fires btu, and when you can actually start working.
      You... it will never get done. Him... prob less than 2 hrs.

  • @garychynne1377
    @garychynne1377 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    THANK U GARE

  • @gamefactory6227
    @gamefactory6227 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    hello ca you do some arrow heads to me?

  • @mariasoledadsotelo4514
    @mariasoledadsotelo4514 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    De donde eres

  • @mariasoledadsotelo4514
    @mariasoledadsotelo4514 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Has un video que muedtres tus travajos

  • @Ilovepinky-lw4ou
    @Ilovepinky-lw4ou 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you please make a insane arrow head

  • @TheRandomOutdoorsmen
    @TheRandomOutdoorsmen 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you, so helpful

  • @iainsherwood5918
    @iainsherwood5918 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Arrowheads would have mostly been made by apprentices

  • @gonzalomauriciolara9931
    @gonzalomauriciolara9931 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you master

  • @bunyamilcapar7767
    @bunyamilcapar7767 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Müke

  • @robinvanschie9675
    @robinvanschie9675 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    can you make a viking mace, would be awesome

    • @woodslore8537
      @woodslore8537 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Did the vikings use maces? I know they used swords, spears, seax, and axe. Though I don't recall ever hear mention of the vikings using a mace. Not saying they weren't a thing just never heard of one.

    • @robinvanschie9675
      @robinvanschie9675 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      there are founding of maces in there period of time but i of course can't know for sure if they used it. i think you can assume they used it.

    • @Jvha761
      @Jvha761 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Robin Van Schie No vikings didn't use maces/warhammers.

  • @AlvaroDantas-lf4xx
    @AlvaroDantas-lf4xx 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Manda mais dese vídeo eu gostei

  • @lopyuoz9709
    @lopyuoz9709 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Di jual kh

  • @galtutankamon
    @galtutankamon 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    How heavy is your anvil?

    • @phoenixforge5944
      @phoenixforge5944  7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      not sure probably 250-300kg ish

    • @fatfat6389
      @fatfat6389 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Everybody talking about arrows, but man that anvil, is the biggest I've seen probably, nice.

  • @shamshuddinansari9533
    @shamshuddinansari9533 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sham

  • @T90m333
    @T90m333 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    *МОЛОДЕЦ*

  • @enesbatur5445
    @enesbatur5445 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Siz delisiz

  • @fajarmubaroq2677
    @fajarmubaroq2677 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    The apik

  • @kennyclement2823
    @kennyclement2823 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    How long dose it take you! To make 1?

  • @joshbarbone189
    @joshbarbone189 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bôrntô forgé

  • @maremhuseen1181
    @maremhuseen1181 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    واو على

  • @Gameplay-xj6pv
    @Gameplay-xj6pv 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    He meant born to swallow

  • @thomasrobson6370
    @thomasrobson6370 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow, your fast :-)

  • @正妹好妞依鈴
    @正妹好妞依鈴 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    😅😅😅😅這樣打好像是電話響起來了 好好聽啊~

  • @s.hoppla8012
    @s.hoppla8012 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hey Bornto, you must be much quicker, man! You're to slow

  • @propmakermaker
    @propmakermaker 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    WTF!!!???

  • @uzbektiger3860
    @uzbektiger3860 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    mening kanalim @UZBEK TIGER

  • @slawbhuhuh8686
    @slawbhuhuh8686 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Setting speed 0,5

  • @ГазовыйЭнэджер-з5о
    @ГазовыйЭнэджер-з5о 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice