The Erco-Tex leather is genuinely astonishing! For 99% of people, we wouldn't even consider that to be a problem, but for the 1% that suffer from sensitive skin, this car is going to become a much more personal option for them. Now that's inclusivity and diversity!
I'd say it's classic in terms of design, especially knowing the volumes some European producers have been selling with the same design concept. Shame this is not going to end up being volume seller in Europe cause the prices are going to be so much inflated compared to your provided China pricing. Excellent work... Thanks! I am sure you have C16 somewhere in the pipeline.
Stellantis has been smart in making a partnership with Leapmotor company. If price remains as stated and expected, your video title is absolutely correct. Plus this fine engineering of Extended electric véhicule with a small thermic one will secure the fear of running flat. Yes I concur it will make some damages. And again many thanks for your video.
I think they're only bringing the EV to Europe, no EREVs just yet, but if they can get the launch and the perception right, this car could hit where it hurts.
This just launched here in Nepal. Price is 54k dollars rwd full option. The car looks great on the outside. Its feature rich but the inside is quite simple. Hope to test drive it soon.
@InsideChinaAuto Yes compared to ICE engine cars, which has a tax up to 280%. Ev is taxed way lower. It's around 30%. So, it's quite good for our country. In comparison to BYD atto 3, which is price 52k dollars and xpeng G6 is priced around 67k dollars.
Great video sir .. i recently had chance to test ride this beauty everything was fine i rode 160 kw motor rwd 69.9 kw battery .. i felt some noise below speed of 30 kmph is that issue or safety norms
Glad you enjoyed it. Hard to say what the issue was without knowing what roads you were on or what the noise was. It wasn't just the low speed noise that helps pedestrians hear that you're coming was it? Like a digital noise? That goes off above 30kph and you can turn it off in the system usually.
Might want to consider the longer term quality of western cars these days. Brands that can't do software, brands whose batteries catch fire oddly more than others, brands who were once synonymous with quality and aren't anymore. But sure, point the fingers at China.
@@InsideChinaAuto that's kindof my issue with "classic" automakers. The build quality overall may be slightly better but the overall driving experience with features and software is incredibly lacking. China and South Korea do it way better. I would have loved to get myself a new Kuga but the displays are poor and awkward and software is not responsive. C10 is coming to my country soon so I'll give it a test drive. All I hope is that seats are comfortable and won't wear out in a couple of years.
I don't think I understand. You have the extended coverage version. Do you have to charge the car from an outlet or charger like other electric cars or do you just fill up with fuel in this version? What is the combustion of this car per 100 km, because the battery consumption probably does not matter if the car is charged only through the internal combustion engine. Do I understand correctly?
So in this version, the engine is merely a generator for the battery. You never need to charge if you don't want to, but if you do you can go EV-only for a couple hundred kilometres and avoid the high cost of fuel. Consumption should be about 6 to 7 litres per 100km with the combination of the battery and the engine (i forget the exact number), so if you never add charge to the battery and just let the engine do it, that number will increase. Obviously motors are around 94% efficient (much more than engines at about 43%), so you lose energy twice, more from the engine and a little from the motors, rather than losing it once in a full electric car. Let me know if that's made it any clearer of if you want me to try again. The important thing is that the engine never drives the wheels so this isn't like a normal BMW or Volvo or whatever plug-in hybrid. Drive is only electric on these.
So in this version, the engine is merely a generator for the battery. You never need to charge if you don't want to, but if you do you can go EV-only for a couple hundred kilometres and avoid the high cost of fuel. Consumption should be about 6 to 7 litres per 100km with the combination of the battery and the engine (i forget the exact number), so if you never add charge to the battery and just let the engine do it, that number will increase. Obviously motors are around 94% efficient (much more than engines at about 43%), so you lose energy twice, more from the engine and a little from the motors, rather than losing it once in a full electric car. Let me know if that's made it any clearer of if you want me to try again. The important thing is that the engine never drives the wheels so this isn't like a normal BMW or Volvo or whatever plug-in hybrid. Drive is only electric on these.
US certainly is a long way away, in product and in tech. I think there's room for alternatives like EREVs for those that need to do long distances and want to do them without taking a pee for 9 hours, but you need the infrastructure to support the system otherwise it's not much fun for anyone. China has that. Other countries not so much.
Not quite, the set up isn't the same. A hybrid can use the motor, the engine, or both to drive the wheels. An EREV only uses the engine to charge the battery. The propulsion is fully electric. So it's a hybrid of sorts but not a PHEV in the traditional sense.
That's the thing, the engine NEVER drives the wheels, it ONLY charges the battery, so the battery will never be empty if the tank has fuel. Generally, if you're in EV mode it will go to about 20% battery minimum before the engine comes on to charge the battery, until you're out of fuel and then it will drain what's left in the battery.
@@InsideChinaAuto right - it is a series hybrid not a parallel (I didn't know that). But that makes my question different but genuinely I am wondering about this. There must surely be circumstances when it just doesn't work.... If you have low state of charge; full tank; you're at the bottom of a mountain, or a circumstance where your needing sustained power. What happens, can the petrol engine charge the battery fast enough to keep it from emptying when the car is driving?
@@simon-c2y It can, yes, and you'll see that when it gets to about 20%, the engine will come on and the charge will either go up slowly or stay at 20%.
I know chinese really put in the work and make great cars for an incredible price, i'm just worried why european manufacturers don't really seem to invest the same zeal into their cars. The new audi lineup is just un-inspired. Hope they find their stride.
They've gotten too comfortable and they need a kick. The premiums are fairly safe from China at the moment, most Europeans are still sceptical that China can make premium cars as well as the Germans, but that perception won't last forever. Meanwhile the mainstream brands are in much greater danger.
@@InsideChinaAutoyou would of thought they’d keep an eye on their biggest market but they just got greedy and just counted their money, now their sales are falling off a cliff it’s wake up time.
@@jasonmugridge Indeed. I should clarify, the premiums shouldn't be afraid of China in Europe just yet - they should absolutely be afraid of China in China.
@@InsideChinaAutoagreed, although I think people in the west don’t realise just how much money the western car makers have been making in China, now those times appear to be coming to an end this will have a massive effect and even if the Chinese didn’t export anything it will change things for all. There must be some Nokia/Kodak moments coming.
That thing is mostly inoffensive enough. The green colour is actually very nice a pity the interior has been ‘tangoed’ and isn’t just tan! The thing that is most offensive and seems to be ubiquitous now on CDM cars is the hideous LIDAR module. The C10 would make a great taxi😂
It is a beautiful car. But..... The problem with those "smaller" car company from china, is the risk. Do they still exist in 1-2 or 5 years? If you buy a VW id4, you know that the company will still exist in the next 10 years. But you can't be sure with thise Chinese company. The problem or the risk is smaller if it is BYD since they are too big to go anywhere. So does European car company. Plus the European company has workshop everywhere if your can need a fixing. Those Chinese company, are just buy the car and you are on your own.
Well Stellantis bought a controlling stake in them as I mentioned at the start of the video so it's not likely these will be going anywhere now, they're locked in for a while. As for parts, I'm sure Stellantis will keep them sorted because they know what it takes to sell abroad. They're lessons BYD learned with their first foray into Europe and that the other makers will have to learn or be told when they leave China.
Rated 5 out of 10 by Topgear. Poor review from Autocar magazine too. Launching for £36,500 in the UK, that is without tariffs applied, so not cheap either. Hardly the stuff of nightmares for incumbents. The reality is, at that price, people will just buy hybrid / PHEV Nissan Qashqai’s and Kia Sportages, as they have always done.
The UK doesn't have any tariffs on Chinese EVs. It is a high price though, it needs to probably undercut those rivals to get them into an unknown brand. I read the Autocar review and honestly it wasn't a poor review at all, it's merely average, which is what it is. One thing the UK media struggle with is touchscreens and cars that aren't sporty. They place so much emphasis on knowing what to press and where it is and how a car goes round corners, when most people want a car that does the job, costs the right money, feels screwed together, etc. What is true is that touchscreens need to be intuitive and Europeans aren't as used to them as Chinese are, or even me living here, but Tesla use only touchscreens and they can't seem to understand them either, it's just old-style reporting.
The Autocar review singled out the ADAS as being particularly annoying. It probably wasn't developed for UK roads and conditions. That is a deal breaker for me.
My point is, in the move over from China to the UK, the price usually doubles and there are additional technical hurdles to overcome. Chinese cars aren't the threat the media is sensationalising them to be.
@disarchitected They're not the threat yet but they will become so very quickly. Almost none of these brands have any experience of foreign markets, unlike BYD and GWM, and they'll make a load of mistakes first if they don't get the right advice. Also many of them have management with very out of touch targets which isn't helping them. But they will learn and they'll learn quickly because they can and they have the desire to do so, and then, much like MG has found success, the better Chinese brands will start to win market share quite quickly. That and they need to fight the anti-China narrative in the media too.
Interesting car - but please don't take both hands off the steering wheel, even when going slowly. Setting a poor example. Other than that, great video.
So in reality you will get 250-270 km Autobahn (Highway) range and charging seems to be quite slow, too. To be competitive with local brands this car should be sold under 25000€ or it will be dead on arrival... Why? No service network, chinese brands die regularly (so no more future support if dead), spareparts are often hard to comeby, not have any proven long term quality, worse standart specs in range and charging, often worse driving noise and comfort and the list goes on... So Leapmotors, don't make the same mistake as your competitors... You absolutely need to come into the European market 20-30% below your European competitors to be competitive, else you will be DOA.
I think these guys will stick around longer since Stellantis took a huge chunk of them, they need this to be successful, and while they're unproven in Europe they're doing pretty well here in China. I assume Stellantis will be sorting the service network too, but you're right, they need this priced right and they'll be a thorn in the side of MG and others.
@@InsideChinaAuto I agree, the Stellantis partnership makes them a bit more Trustworthy. But already we have seen two brands failing here in Europe: Aiways is pretty much dead (which will make the cars unserviceable and even worse, could lead to the car being shut down in case of any recall - so cars could become a 50.000€ paperweight) and GWM Ora is now firing all it's staff in Germany, too (but it at least states they will continue sale and service through partners - which often results in even worse service) And BYD is failing sales wise, too - they are often selling far below one hundred units each month. Even the huge (and very expensive) football championship sponsorship didn't change much and will be most likely a huge loss for the company. If BYD would sell the Dolphin for 20-23.000€ instead of it's overpriced 32.000€ - it could be a great hit. But at this price I would prefer the VW ID3, which has better range, charging speed and much less cabin noise and much more driving comfort. And they seem to be very reliable cars too. Chinese cars need to do the same Korean brands like Kia and Hyundai did: they came into the market for 20-30% below market price, builded up a service network and offered long warranties to show they are worth their value and when they got better known and trusted they started to raise their pricing. This is what the Chinese are missing: they look at the pricing of European cars, think they can ask for the same money, while often are even worse in the things that matter. And to have some unnecessary half baked tech stuff added (that most people don't need and like), doesn't add any value.
@KookyBone Aiways are all but dead in China already. Of all the Chinese brands that came to Europe recently they're by far the worst. The only ones not to get a 5-star rating and so bad even the Chinese are not buying them. I have the same concerns about Seres and Skywell heading over there. They're simply not up to scratch. The others there are generally good or very good, but they will all have to learn how to market to Europeans and sometimes these cars are set up and developed for Chinese tastes. They can't simply copy and paste and expect tastes to change overnight. BYD are overpriced and I think that's partly tariffs, if which the Japanese and Koreans didn't have, and also I think they're trying their luck, because you can lower prices but never raise them. They're doing pretty well in some markets though, some more than others. GWM has lost their way a bit and need to find their mojo again, but they have one problem a few Chinese companies are facing, and that's Chinese management that expects they can walk into Europe and they should just sell immediately. I know this because people at Chery have told me (and many have left too) about the things some leadership have said. One leader reportedly told a member of staff in a meeting of several hundred people "I will f-ing kill you". They expect sales in the UK and Oz (I assume other markets too) to just be instantly great, which won't happen. They really need somebody who can be a conduit between the European mindset and Chinese mindset, somebody who understands both, otherwise they will fail at all the same things others have before.
@@InsideChinaAuto pretty much agree with everything that you said... Xpeng and zeekr are looking quite good right now... Very much looking forward to these cars. About the new markets: Even new brands from trusted countries have not an easy job to enter the European market. The Chinese definitely have no clue - reality is everyone had a massive amount of bad quality items he got from China... While some companies now make good products, there is still a lot of Chinese tech that looks nice outside but breaks quite fast. But with a 30.000-40.000€ car, no one will spend that kind of money if he doesn't have any trust in a brand. The risk of having a two tons paperweight without any value standing at home is too high. As you said, Chinese brands are new to the market, no one knows them, there is no trust and everyone has Internet and can Google the Chinese price - if I see a car sold for double the price of China in Europe I think they want to screw me. I understand they think they can lower the price later, but reality is, you have to enter the market with a BANG: just sell Chinese cars to Chinese cost dirt cheap here in Europe - let's say they really sold their cars with only 10% of margins +shipping +import fees/,tax - should be about 35-45% on top of the Chinese price. This would absolutely be huge news and many buyers just would buy them because they can save a good amount of money. They have to start with low profits first and sell cheap to make some noise and when they have made a good standing then they can sell later models more expensive. The most Tech stuff they add, isn't really important for most people. BUT for new brands there is only one chance to get into a market and that is price.
@@KookyBoneYo could see the price of same car in Chinese is much lower than it in Europe. So the problem is that the Europe merchants want to earn money and ridiculous Europe parliament increases tariffs. At the same time. If you can research precisely, you could the car like C10 is much much better than ID4 or something like KIA..whatever… I’m sure you know the difference between IPhone and Nokia. ID4 needs stay in service center and 12 hours for OTA, and rear wheels also uses drum brakes😂. I know “ trust “ is important, but earning the trust is product instead of lower price.
I think people would be interested in a car with a 50-60kwh battery with normal AC and DC charging (7-11kw AC - 200kw+/- DC) and a small 1 litre petrol motor to charge in emergencies to get maybe another 160km / 100miles - why are these not available? It couldn't cost more than a few hundred $ to put in that small motor and a tank - all the rest of the components are already there.
It's interesting. I think because in essence they're less efficient generally than a PHEV I believe, but they give you the electric drive. It's a cheaper option, and one that's proving very popular as a kind of intermediary stop on the way to electric.
I understand that legacy auto is joining with Chinese EV builders, but damn, that is one ugly thing on wheels. It is more a huge cargo/transport box on wheels. Aren't there already more than enough huge boxy wheeled movers for the family? The endless stream of SUV's and sedans is deadly boring. Why are there not more 2-door sporty like EV's, the coupé's, the cabrio's and cheaper small hot hatches.? It seems, that we have a growing population of 400lbs, 7 feet tall people, that all need a 5 meter long EV that weighs 2.5 metric tons.
I'm with you on the proliferation of SUVs. Totally unnecessary, but the people seem to speak and they don't share our opinion. I'm not a huge fan of how this C10 looks inside or out, too bulbous and bland for my liking, certainly not at the Li Auto level, but it's inoffensive so it'll probably sell like hot cakes at the right price.
Leapmotor has launched T03 2-doors EV too in Europe. However, for our Chinese, we really like a vehicle with bigger space as personal space when we aren’t at home. So I will never waste of time to investigate the 2-doors car like Smart, Fiat 500e etc.
That you should call a car review. Amazing job. Subscribed
Glad you liked it. We've got tonnes more just the same.
Great review!! You've earned a new subscriber.
Thanks for the Awesome work.
Glad you enjoyed it Rick. Great to have you with us.
You are based in Kunming! No wonder the view looks so familiar to me. Great video! Thanks
You based there as well mate?
Leapmotor is great company, Stellantis will learn a lot from them while helping to spread globally
Let's hope so
That paint job is a beauty!
Lovely colour.
The Erco-Tex leather is genuinely astonishing! For 99% of people, we wouldn't even consider that to be a problem, but for the 1% that suffer from sensitive skin, this car is going to become a much more personal option for them. Now that's inclusivity and diversity!
It's a valuable thing for some. Lovely and soft too.
I'd say it's classic in terms of design, especially knowing the volumes some European producers have been selling with the same design concept.
Shame this is not going to end up being volume seller in Europe cause the prices are going to be so much inflated compared to your provided China pricing.
Excellent work... Thanks! I am sure you have C16 somewhere in the pipeline.
I'll look at C16 when the time comes. Got videos lined up until the end of September right now, at least two a week, so I'm busy as hell right now.
Around 40k euros
@@alxdava2004 EU retail price?
@@kaurinjugoslav6326 yes. Actually, the top is 43k. It starts above 39k
I love this video! Great job! This car seems great and economic-friendly ❤ Added to my family’s list for e-vehicle
It's a very competent car. Not so exciting, but does a very good job.
This car is a cutomisers wet dream, i can see so many add on parts, and mods.
Sometimes plain designs are a good template
Could make it more interesting inside for sure.
Stellantis has been smart in making a partnership with Leapmotor company. If price remains as stated and expected, your video title is absolutely correct. Plus this fine engineering of Extended electric véhicule with a small thermic one will secure the fear of running flat. Yes I concur it will make some damages. And again many thanks for your video.
I think they're only bringing the EV to Europe, no EREVs just yet, but if they can get the launch and the perception right, this car could hit where it hurts.
I got me eyes set on Zeekr 7X......ooohhhhh can't bloody wait for it's arrival in Australia next year:)
That's a sexy SUV
Really nice car and awesome review! Please thank your colleague who records from the scooter 😉😉 Great shots also from the drone! 👏👏
Thanks. I'll be sure to do just that.
This just launched here in Nepal. Price is 54k dollars rwd full option. The car looks great on the outside. Its feature rich but the inside is quite simple. Hope to test drive it soon.
Exactly that. Bland to look at but a lot of tech inside. Is 54k a decent price in Nepal?
@InsideChinaAuto Yes compared to ICE engine cars, which has a tax up to 280%. Ev is taxed way lower. It's around 30%. So, it's quite good for our country. In comparison to BYD atto 3, which is price 52k dollars and xpeng G6 is priced around 67k dollars.
@@hrithikshrestha9089 wow, so a pretty decent deal then. 280% for ICE? Jeez. Really trying to look after the environment with that kind of tax.
@@InsideChinaAuto that's true sir
Sir, I wanted to ask a quick question . I'm thinking of buying a Chinese ev. Which do you think would be better Changan deepal s7 or this C10?
I have to say the appreance of Leapmotor is attractive.
Bit bland for my liking but beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
Thanks , coming to Australia in November
Indeed it is.
as long as chinese cars are ticking boxes for safety standards I'm happy with their competition
This one should get 5-stars in EuroNCAP they claim, as has every Chinese car bar one that's been tested in the last 3-4 years.
Love this colour, not so much the interior colour though.
Has a look of a Land Rover Evoque. Nice. 👍🏻
Agree with you on both, bit too much of that tan inside. Not overly luxurious in any way but a very capable car nonetheless and a bargain too.
Interesting that Stellantis haven’t made a rebadged version, that might sell better outside of China
Perhaps they're hoping it'll cut under their own mainstream brands and keep them safe.
Is this a separate company from Li Auto? Looks almost identical, though I prefer Li’s more minimal design.
Totally different companies but certainly some inspired colour choices. Haha.
I think with half the price of Li auto, this is the poor people version of the Li auto 😅
It is coming to Malaysia too under Stellantis dealer.
Great, another market.
Excellent review. Nice vehicle at the price
Great price in China, seems decent in Europe, maybe a little higher than ideal.
Great video sir .. i recently had chance to test ride this beauty everything was fine i rode 160 kw motor rwd 69.9 kw battery .. i felt some noise below speed of 30 kmph is that issue or safety norms
Glad you enjoyed it. Hard to say what the issue was without knowing what roads you were on or what the noise was. It wasn't just the low speed noise that helps pedestrians hear that you're coming was it? Like a digital noise? That goes off above 30kph and you can turn it off in the system usually.
It wasnt digital noise but kind of motor noise but it goes off if we pass 30 kmph
@ashokshakya Interesting. Didn't experience that myself so afraid I can't help with that one.
Stellantis is going to make an easy profit
Looks like it. Let's see how well they can sell these.
The longer term quality of Chinese cars is a question mark
Might want to consider the longer term quality of western cars these days. Brands that can't do software, brands whose batteries catch fire oddly more than others, brands who were once synonymous with quality and aren't anymore. But sure, point the fingers at China.
@@InsideChinaAuto that's kindof my issue with "classic" automakers. The build quality overall may be slightly better but the overall driving experience with features and software is incredibly lacking. China and South Korea do it way better. I would have loved to get myself a new Kuga but the displays are poor and awkward and software is not responsive. C10 is coming to my country soon so I'll give it a test drive. All I hope is that seats are comfortable and won't wear out in a couple of years.
I don't think I understand. You have the extended coverage version. Do you have to charge the car from an outlet or charger like other electric cars or do you just fill up with fuel in this version?
What is the combustion of this car per 100 km, because the battery consumption probably does not matter if the car is charged only through the internal combustion engine. Do I understand correctly?
So in this version, the engine is merely a generator for the battery. You never need to charge if you don't want to, but if you do you can go EV-only for a couple hundred kilometres and avoid the high cost of fuel.
Consumption should be about 6 to 7 litres per 100km with the combination of the battery and the engine (i forget the exact number), so if you never add charge to the battery and just let the engine do it, that number will increase. Obviously motors are around 94% efficient (much more than engines at about 43%), so you lose energy twice, more from the engine and a little from the motors, rather than losing it once in a full electric car.
Let me know if that's made it any clearer of if you want me to try again. The important thing is that the engine never drives the wheels so this isn't like a normal BMW or Volvo or whatever plug-in hybrid. Drive is only electric on these.
So in this version, the engine is merely a generator for the battery. You never need to charge if you don't want to, but if you do you can go EV-only for a couple hundred kilometres and avoid the high cost of fuel.
Consumption should be about 6 to 7 litres per 100km with the combination of the battery and the engine (i forget the exact number), so if you never add charge to the battery and just let the engine do it, that number will increase. Obviously motors are around 94% efficient (much more than engines at about 43%), so you lose energy twice, more from the engine and a little from the motors, rather than losing it once in a full electric car.
Let me know if that's made it any clearer of if you want me to try again. The important thing is that the engine never drives the wheels so this isn't like a normal BMW or Volvo or whatever plug-in hybrid. Drive is only electric on these.
The screen layout is very similar to the Omoda, from what I can see.
You mean one in the middle?
@ the hone screen layout at least seems very similar.
@marketingwizdom I think that's fairly true of most systems these days.
People may learn the hard way that EV automobiles are not all they're cracked up to be. The USA market is decades away from adoption.
US certainly is a long way away, in product and in tech. I think there's room for alternatives like EREVs for those that need to do long distances and want to do them without taking a pee for 9 hours, but you need the infrastructure to support the system otherwise it's not much fun for anyone. China has that. Other countries not so much.
1:37 So, extended range electric vehicle is another way of saying hybrid?
Not quite, the set up isn't the same. A hybrid can use the motor, the engine, or both to drive the wheels. An EREV only uses the engine to charge the battery. The propulsion is fully electric. So it's a hybrid of sorts but not a PHEV in the traditional sense.
PHEV＞EREV
@@dingxiong8604depends
what about Android Auto or Apple CarPlay on Leapmotor cars ?
Not in China as it's not needed but I'd expect them to change most of that for Europe as all the apps you use are different from those here.
This model is coming to Brazil next year and Stellantis is studying making a Fiat version of the cheap ev
Makes sense to be honest. A Fiat version would surely be more interesting to look at.
we need Leapmotor c16 review
Coming soon. I get one dropped off next week.
Chat GPT saya pun tak guna, pakai Germini & CoPilot ja, E.Mas7 memang saya aim hujung tahun depan
Chat GPT says what now?
I'm so sorry, wrong comment 🙏
Actually there is photo leapmotor C10 in Malaysia street, is possible C10 also will sell in Malaysia market,
@@syarizansulaiman6554 No problem. Was just confused what it meant.
@@syarizansulaiman6554 I'd expect it will sell there since they're making it in RHD
I don't like the lidar hood on the roof. With the battery depleted and the 1.5 engine it must surely be somewhat gutless?
That's the thing, the engine NEVER drives the wheels, it ONLY charges the battery, so the battery will never be empty if the tank has fuel. Generally, if you're in EV mode it will go to about 20% battery minimum before the engine comes on to charge the battery, until you're out of fuel and then it will drain what's left in the battery.
@@InsideChinaAuto right - it is a series hybrid not a parallel (I didn't know that). But that makes my question different but genuinely I am wondering about this. There must surely be circumstances when it just doesn't work.... If you have low state of charge; full tank; you're at the bottom of a mountain, or a circumstance where your needing sustained power. What happens, can the petrol engine charge the battery fast enough to keep it from emptying when the car is driving?
@@simon-c2y It can, yes, and you'll see that when it gets to about 20%, the engine will come on and the charge will either go up slowly or stay at 20%.
@@InsideChinaAuto interesting. Thanks. I guess the fuel economy is about 6l/100km then, or higher if the demands are greater due to terrain or speed.
@@simon-c2y 5.1 they claim, so likely closer to 6 in reality.
I know chinese really put in the work and make great cars for an incredible price, i'm just worried why european manufacturers don't really seem to invest the same zeal into their cars. The new audi lineup is just un-inspired. Hope they find their stride.
They've gotten too comfortable and they need a kick. The premiums are fairly safe from China at the moment, most Europeans are still sceptical that China can make premium cars as well as the Germans, but that perception won't last forever. Meanwhile the mainstream brands are in much greater danger.
@@InsideChinaAutoyou would of thought they’d keep an eye on their biggest market but they just got greedy and just counted their money, now their sales are falling off a cliff it’s wake up time.
@@jasonmugridge Indeed. I should clarify, the premiums shouldn't be afraid of China in Europe just yet - they should absolutely be afraid of China in China.
@@InsideChinaAutoagreed, although I think people in the west don’t realise just how much money the western car makers have been making in China, now those times appear to be coming to an end this will have a massive effect and even if the Chinese didn’t export anything it will change things for all. There must be some Nokia/Kodak moments coming.
9 or 10k€ less than the G6 here in Spain
It's a pretty good deal. Not as attractive as the G6 and not quite as smart overall, but I think more spacious.
@@InsideChinaAuto not as quick as the G6 charging, etc . But it's a really good price I think
That thing is mostly inoffensive enough. The green colour is actually very nice a pity the interior has been ‘tangoed’ and isn’t just tan! The thing that is most offensive and seems to be ubiquitous now on CDM cars is the hideous LIDAR module. The C10 would make a great taxi😂
Have to agree on all points.
6:08 Hang on, was this one take or did I miss a cut somewhere? 😅
That was one take, but a little jerky.
@@InsideChinaAuto Wow, was it a drone or do you guys have Elastigirl for a camera person? 😆
@@AutomaticVII Elastiguy. I present and film everything myself.
Its not a nigthmare with 480 china range ( wltp will maybe like 400) and with 30 min from 10-80.
But at that price, what can compete?
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You like a lot of these videos, and I'm all for it.
its coast 40 thousands euro in EU🤣🤣🤣
Did they announce prices already?
@@InsideChinaAutoyap
From behind it looks like the dongfeng forthing / friday
I see the similarity now you've said it.
It is a beautiful car.
But.....
The problem with those "smaller" car company from china, is the risk. Do they still exist in 1-2 or 5 years? If you buy a VW id4, you know that the company will still exist in the next 10 years. But you can't be sure with thise Chinese company. The problem or the risk is smaller if it is BYD since they are too big to go anywhere. So does European car company. Plus the European company has workshop everywhere if your can need a fixing. Those Chinese company, are just buy the car and you are on your own.
Well Stellantis bought a controlling stake in them as I mentioned at the start of the video so it's not likely these will be going anywhere now, they're locked in for a while. As for parts, I'm sure Stellantis will keep them sorted because they know what it takes to sell abroad. They're lessons BYD learned with their first foray into Europe and that the other makers will have to learn or be told when they leave China.
Rated 5 out of 10 by Topgear. Poor review from Autocar magazine too. Launching for £36,500 in the UK, that is without tariffs applied, so not cheap either. Hardly the stuff of nightmares for incumbents. The reality is, at that price, people will just buy hybrid / PHEV Nissan Qashqai’s and Kia Sportages, as they have always done.
The UK doesn't have any tariffs on Chinese EVs. It is a high price though, it needs to probably undercut those rivals to get them into an unknown brand. I read the Autocar review and honestly it wasn't a poor review at all, it's merely average, which is what it is. One thing the UK media struggle with is touchscreens and cars that aren't sporty. They place so much emphasis on knowing what to press and where it is and how a car goes round corners, when most people want a car that does the job, costs the right money, feels screwed together, etc. What is true is that touchscreens need to be intuitive and Europeans aren't as used to them as Chinese are, or even me living here, but Tesla use only touchscreens and they can't seem to understand them either, it's just old-style reporting.
The Autocar review singled out the ADAS as being particularly annoying. It probably wasn't developed for UK roads and conditions. That is a deal breaker for me.
My point is, in the move over from China to the UK, the price usually doubles and there are additional technical hurdles to overcome. Chinese cars aren't the threat the media is sensationalising them to be.
@disarchitected The ADAS wasn't all that on Chinese roads either, even with lidar included which the UK doesn't get, but that can be upgraded via OTA.
@disarchitected They're not the threat yet but they will become so very quickly. Almost none of these brands have any experience of foreign markets, unlike BYD and GWM, and they'll make a load of mistakes first if they don't get the right advice. Also many of them have management with very out of touch targets which isn't helping them. But they will learn and they'll learn quickly because they can and they have the desire to do so, and then, much like MG has found success, the better Chinese brands will start to win market share quite quickly. That and they need to fight the anti-China narrative in the media too.
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That's the one.
Not really sure why Stellantis are bringing this over. It’s so bland.
Sadly, about 80% of buyers go for bland. I wish the world was all concept cars.
@@InsideChinaAuto it seems mad to undercut their own Frontera and 5008.
Price in dollars
Watch the video. It's in the driving section near the end.
Interesting car - but please don't take both hands off the steering wheel, even when going slowly. Setting a poor example. Other than that, great video.
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On a completely empty two-lane road with nothing around, I think I'll be OK.
@@InsideChinaAuto 😘😏
So in reality you will get 250-270 km Autobahn (Highway) range and charging seems to be quite slow, too.
To be competitive with local brands this car should be sold under 25000€ or it will be dead on arrival...
Why? No service network, chinese brands die regularly (so no more future support if dead), spareparts are often hard to comeby, not have any proven long term quality, worse standart specs in range and charging, often worse driving noise and comfort and the list goes on...
So Leapmotors, don't make the same mistake as your competitors... You absolutely need to come into the European market 20-30% below your European competitors to be competitive, else you will be DOA.
I think these guys will stick around longer since Stellantis took a huge chunk of them, they need this to be successful, and while they're unproven in Europe they're doing pretty well here in China. I assume Stellantis will be sorting the service network too, but you're right, they need this priced right and they'll be a thorn in the side of MG and others.
@@InsideChinaAuto I agree, the Stellantis partnership makes them a bit more Trustworthy. But already we have seen two brands failing here in Europe: Aiways is pretty much dead (which will make the cars unserviceable and even worse, could lead to the car being shut down in case of any recall - so cars could become a 50.000€ paperweight) and GWM Ora is now firing all it's staff in Germany, too (but it at least states they will continue sale and service through partners - which often results in even worse service)
And BYD is failing sales wise, too - they are often selling far below one hundred units each month. Even the huge (and very expensive) football championship sponsorship didn't change much and will be most likely a huge loss for the company.
If BYD would sell the Dolphin for 20-23.000€ instead of it's overpriced 32.000€ - it could be a great hit. But at this price I would prefer the VW ID3, which has better range, charging speed and much less cabin noise and much more driving comfort. And they seem to be very reliable cars too.
Chinese cars need to do the same Korean brands like Kia and Hyundai did: they came into the market for 20-30% below market price, builded up a service network and offered long warranties to show they are worth their value and when they got better known and trusted they started to raise their pricing.
This is what the Chinese are missing: they look at the pricing of European cars, think they can ask for the same money, while often are even worse in the things that matter. And to have some unnecessary half baked tech stuff added (that most people don't need and like), doesn't add any value.
@KookyBone Aiways are all but dead in China already. Of all the Chinese brands that came to Europe recently they're by far the worst. The only ones not to get a 5-star rating and so bad even the Chinese are not buying them. I have the same concerns about Seres and Skywell heading over there. They're simply not up to scratch. The others there are generally good or very good, but they will all have to learn how to market to Europeans and sometimes these cars are set up and developed for Chinese tastes. They can't simply copy and paste and expect tastes to change overnight.
BYD are overpriced and I think that's partly tariffs, if which the Japanese and Koreans didn't have, and also I think they're trying their luck, because you can lower prices but never raise them. They're doing pretty well in some markets though, some more than others.
GWM has lost their way a bit and need to find their mojo again, but they have one problem a few Chinese companies are facing, and that's Chinese management that expects they can walk into Europe and they should just sell immediately. I know this because people at Chery have told me (and many have left too) about the things some leadership have said. One leader reportedly told a member of staff in a meeting of several hundred people "I will f-ing kill you". They expect sales in the UK and Oz (I assume other markets too) to just be instantly great, which won't happen. They really need somebody who can be a conduit between the European mindset and Chinese mindset, somebody who understands both, otherwise they will fail at all the same things others have before.
@@InsideChinaAuto pretty much agree with everything that you said... Xpeng and zeekr are looking quite good right now... Very much looking forward to these cars.
About the new markets: Even new brands from trusted countries have not an easy job to enter the European market. The Chinese definitely have no clue - reality is everyone had a massive amount of bad quality items he got from China... While some companies now make good products, there is still a lot of Chinese tech that looks nice outside but breaks quite fast.
But with a 30.000-40.000€ car, no one will spend that kind of money if he doesn't have any trust in a brand. The risk of having a two tons paperweight without any value standing at home is too high.
As you said, Chinese brands are new to the market, no one knows them, there is no trust and everyone has Internet and can Google the Chinese price - if I see a car sold for double the price of China in Europe I think they want to screw me.
I understand they think they can lower the price later, but reality is, you have to enter the market with a BANG: just sell Chinese cars to Chinese cost dirt cheap here in Europe - let's say they really sold their cars with only 10% of margins +shipping +import fees/,tax - should be about 35-45% on top of the Chinese price. This would absolutely be huge news and many buyers just would buy them because they can save a good amount of money.
They have to start with low profits first and sell cheap to make some noise and when they have made a good standing then they can sell later models more expensive.
The most Tech stuff they add, isn't really important for most people.
BUT for new brands there is only one chance to get into a market and that is price.
@@KookyBoneYo could see the price of same car in Chinese is much lower than it in Europe. So the problem is that the Europe merchants want to earn money and ridiculous Europe parliament increases tariffs.
At the same time. If you can research precisely, you could the car like C10 is much much better than ID4 or something like KIA..whatever… I’m sure you know the difference between IPhone and Nokia. ID4 needs stay in service center and 12 hours for OTA, and rear wheels also uses drum brakes😂. I know “ trust “ is important, but earning the trust is product instead of lower price.
I think people would be interested in a car with a 50-60kwh battery with normal AC and DC charging (7-11kw AC - 200kw+/- DC) and a small 1 litre petrol motor to charge in emergencies to get maybe another 160km / 100miles - why are these not available? It couldn't cost more than a few hundred $ to put in that small motor and a tank - all the rest of the components are already there.
It's interesting. I think because in essence they're less efficient generally than a PHEV I believe, but they give you the electric drive. It's a cheaper option, and one that's proving very popular as a kind of intermediary stop on the way to electric.
Interior is awful. Centre console especially
Agreed. So bland and all one colour.
I understand that legacy auto is joining with Chinese EV builders, but damn, that is one ugly thing on wheels.
It is more a huge cargo/transport box on wheels. Aren't there already more than enough huge boxy wheeled movers for the family?
The endless stream of SUV's and sedans is deadly boring.
Why are there not more 2-door sporty like EV's, the coupé's, the cabrio's and cheaper small hot hatches.?
It seems, that we have a growing population of 400lbs, 7 feet tall people, that all need a 5 meter long EV that weighs 2.5 metric tons.
I'm with you on the proliferation of SUVs. Totally unnecessary, but the people seem to speak and they don't share our opinion. I'm not a huge fan of how this C10 looks inside or out, too bulbous and bland for my liking, certainly not at the Li Auto level, but it's inoffensive so it'll probably sell like hot cakes at the right price.
Leapmotor has launched T03 2-doors EV too in Europe. However, for our Chinese, we really like a vehicle with bigger space as personal space when we aren’t at home. So I will never waste of time to investigate the 2-doors car like Smart, Fiat 500e etc.
@@woohuk09 Believe they only sell a 5-door T03, not 3-door.
@@InsideChinaAuto Right，I mean the 3- doors size. We Chinese don’t like the type of car even 5-doors
@@woohuk09 Unless it's a Wuling Hongguang, right? They're awesome.
Why Chinese cars seat colours are so tacky?
Not a bad choice this, though not quite as luxurious as the tan in the Li models.
Who are you to judge? Tacky for the low class like you.
😂same colour in Rolls-Royce
@@woohuk09 Believe they actually took the colour directly from Hermes (in the Li Auto).
Each to their own. I really like this colour.