Definitely doesn't have the cleanest resume. Lost the biggest XC race of the year. Still really clean resume, but I can think of a lot of others with a cleaner resume.
No one this year has a clean resume. All of the best guys in the country (with the exception of Leo for only running pro meets) have lost regularly to one another. No one this year is dominant the way Colin Sahlman and Cade Flatt were.
@@FranklynAlvarez Nico Young was super dominant too and it's a shame Covid shut down his senior track season. He likely would have been running similar 2 mile / 3200 times given he ran 8:40:00 as a junior.
@@grantkoehnen2114idk birnbaum beat Leo but senior Colin was a different breed tho he’s faster now as a collegiate runner but senior Colin was fast asf
I was wondering how they would go sub 8:40 with such slow lap splits until I saw that gutsy surge with 1200m left to go as they began to crank it up, that last lap was very impressive from Birnbaum and Burns! I have to think that would indicate a sub 8:30 with even pacing all the way, no?
I remember Vic Reeve of Oregon taking second in the NCAA final 2 mile with an 8:58 (ya, there used to be a 2 mile) 8th place here was faster than that old time. Great young athletes.
Birnbaum just running a beautiful race. Jumping to first to set a position, letting someone else work the wind, staying in touch, not rushing the pass, finding 700m out to be suboptimal, making the move at 500m out, protecting the spot at 200m out to glide into that curve, and dumping the tank into that last 100m. All that strategy while he and the rest of that lead group is dropping sub 8:40! Impressive.
Downright impressive how the commentators manage to never mention the finishing/winning time, nor do they call out the current time as the race was going on. He said some splits, but they didn't even tell us the time at the 1mile mark. Fantastically inept & annoying as a spectator
Ditto. And since its runnerspace I'm surprised they didn't have a running clock (or a split screen of the track's clock) in a corner of the screen during the race.
These were kind of incompetent announcers. They reported the quarter splits, but not the splits at half mile, mile and mile and half. That is track 101 announcing. Who doesn't know that??
Extremely impressive times! Not to be nitpicky, but I think because they run on a track with no inner edge, only cones on the curves, they should compensate the distance by about 4,5 m back from the original start of 2 miles to make it valid. I'm sure many meets don't compensate like that but I recently experienced it myself in a 5000 m district meet, where we had to start around 7 m back from the original start. Cones weren't enough outdoors, only indoors. This was in Sweden, but the organizer consulted international judges about this, so I assume it should apply in the US as well.
it already applies. Whenever a track is made without an inside edge, it is made 6m longer (something like that, I don't remember the exact distance). Any track without an inner edge is made that way. So the times are fair.
@@user-sx3zz2ef2g Oh, OK, thanks for the info! Maybe it is like that on some tracks then. Sometimes the edge may have been removed or broke down though, then they have to compensate I guess. It should be about 0.5 m compensation per lap (400 m) though, not 6 m extra, that would be a a bit much :) (unless you mean for this specific race)
While it nice to seem competition in track the ultimate test is the clock. Where is it. Are these guys going for Ryun's AJR of 8:25.6 or are they running at 11 minute pace. In an 8 lap race they called splits on 6 laps, always after the fact and never a running time.
Birnbaum has a cleanest resume winning all the biggest high school races: Arcadia, Hoka, and now Brooks. I bet he will win Nike too.
Definitely doesn't have the cleanest resume. Lost the biggest XC race of the year. Still really clean resume, but I can think of a lot of others with a cleaner resume.
No one this year has a clean resume. All of the best guys in the country (with the exception of Leo for only running pro meets) have lost regularly to one another. No one this year is dominant the way Colin Sahlman and Cade Flatt were.
@@diizzya1343 you mean others from different years like jim ryun, alan webb, and lukas?
I won more inhs
@@FranklynAlvarez Nico Young was super dominant too and it's a shame Covid shut down his senior track season. He likely would have been running similar 2 mile / 3200 times given he ran 8:40:00 as a junior.
It would have been fun to see this year's Birnbaum versus last year's Colin Sahlman.
Would’ve been crazy, but personally I believe Colin would win in a dogfight
@@grantkoehnen2114idk birnbaum beat Leo but senior Colin was a different breed tho he’s faster now as a collegiate runner but senior Colin was fast asf
Simeon is unbeatable right now. He rises to the challenge of winning no matter who he's racing.
Doubt it, Leo’s kick doesn’t compare… Simeon would find some way to squeeze out a better finish
Jabber jabber jabber they’re literally racing the mile against each other this weekend just wait till then
@@poplop485 jabber jabber jabber
@@user-fp5co6qn7hLeo closed in a 56. Birnbaum closed his 3:57 in a 57.
@@poplop485 Either way, it's exciting to see so much talent in the running community. Can't wait to see them race.
I was wondering how they would go sub 8:40 with such slow lap splits until I saw that gutsy surge with 1200m left to go as they began to crank it up, that last lap was very impressive from Birnbaum and Burns! I have to think that would indicate a sub 8:30 with even pacing all the way, no?
55 second close for the Oregon duo!
26 last 200 for both of them.
Yall don't need to forget about German Fernandez.
4 flat mile, 2 hours later 8:34 2mile
German Fernandez would own this guys if in Same race he ran that time by it self and bad weather if just Focus one event done 2 miles !!!
@Chuy I sent him some shoes to sign for me and I haven't heard back from him in 1.5 years lol I gotta hit him up
I remember Vic Reeve of Oregon taking second in the NCAA final 2 mile with an 8:58 (ya, there used to be a 2 mile) 8th place here was faster than that old time. Great young athletes.
That was pretty impressive to have four guys under 8:40!!
LETS GO BATMAN I MEAN SIMEON
Gotham city
I was there at this meet. This race and the 800 were the highlights of this meet! Bro went absolutely insane last mile
Birnbaum just running a beautiful race. Jumping to first to set a position, letting someone else work the wind, staying in touch, not rushing the pass, finding 700m out to be suboptimal, making the move at 500m out, protecting the spot at 200m out to glide into that curve, and dumping the tank into that last 100m. All that strategy while he and the rest of that lead group is dropping sub 8:40! Impressive.
It'll be interesting to see how the top runners do at the next level!!
University of Oregon’s future is looking bright with Birnbaum.
Bro is from South Dakota. These guys are pretty much almost on pro level that's insanity
Nice weather!!
running builds character
Great race! It's awesome to see three guys fighting to the end!
Come on Runnerspace. No clock on the screen? Announcers didn't give a 1 mile split?
Downright impressive how the commentators manage to never mention the finishing/winning time, nor do they call out the current time as the race was going on. He said some splits, but they didn't even tell us the time at the 1mile mark. Fantastically inept & annoying as a spectator
Agreed, these commentators fucking suck!
Ditto. And since its runnerspace I'm surprised they didn't have a running clock (or a split screen of the track's clock) in a corner of the screen during the race.
I thought the same thing!! Hey announcers...ANNOUNCE!! Please!!
The times were at the end, it wasn't that big a deal.
Yes that gave new meaning to the term ineptitude
Haven't seen anyone that can outkick Birnbaum. i think he runs just hard enough to win.
i swear dude in the thumbnail levitating
Beasts
You won't find any reference to their times till the very end
These were kind of incompetent announcers. They reported the quarter splits, but not the splits at half mile, mile and mile and half. That is track 101 announcing. Who doesn't know that??
@@michaeldeierhoi4096 3:30 "Tyler Gorze"
What are we thinking for Nike Nats? Who’s taking the W - Leo or Lex, or Simeon or Conner?
LeTtTtTtTtTtSsSsSsSsSs GoOoOoOoOoOoOoOo!!!!!!!
great race!!!
tyler gorze is wild
Last I checked, Tyler Downs was from Mountain Vista, not Niwot.
8TH place at 8:54...!!! 4 under 8:40!! Smoking!
Extremely impressive times! Not to be nitpicky, but I think because they run on a track with no inner edge, only cones on the curves, they should compensate the distance by about 4,5 m back from the original start of 2 miles to make it valid. I'm sure many meets don't compensate like that but I recently experienced it myself in a 5000 m district meet, where we had to start around 7 m back from the original start. Cones weren't enough outdoors, only indoors. This was in Sweden, but the organizer consulted international judges about this, so I assume it should apply in the US as well.
it already applies. Whenever a track is made without an inside edge, it is made 6m longer (something like that, I don't remember the exact distance). Any track without an inner edge is made that way. So the times are fair.
@@user-sx3zz2ef2g Oh, OK, thanks for the info! Maybe it is like that on some tracks then. Sometimes the edge may have been removed or broke down though, then they have to compensate I guess. It should be about 0.5 m compensation per lap (400 m) though, not 6 m extra, that would be a a bit much :) (unless you mean for this specific race)
@@HugRunner yeah I mean for 8 laps it should be somewhere around 6m longer
While it nice to seem competition in track the ultimate test is the clock. Where is it. Are these guys going for Ryun's AJR of 8:25.6 or are they running at 11 minute pace. In an 8 lap race they called splits on 6 laps, always after the fact and never a running time.
Announcers..yap. yap..hey, ya' kno' wha'..let's not announce tha' mile split time..uhh, yeah okay..yap, yapping..yokels..
Stupid that there is no timer on the screen
1:57 last 800m? Wtfff 😭
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WOW QUE GENIAL
Rolled
Have poland ?
What age are these runners please from UK , great race too !!
16-18 years old.
Birnbaum, the winner, is 17
Hahaha Luke V would have dusted these boys
no clock?
okay but connor popped off
Jake Roberts
Connor taking L’s
The boys 1 mile was so BS Heidisch literally ruined everyone’s race. Devan got cut off and tripped and it slowed down everyone.
He just got the free win literally jogged the last hundred
Where can you watch this at
Agreed, he should’ve gotten DQed
didn't Jackson semi- push Kipyego at Nike Indoors in the last 100m earlier this year as well ?
@@berkeleygolfermaybe a little but the last 50 had a lot of bumping from both of them
Awful announcers!
YIKES!!!!!
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Why do these videos always bring out the weirdos
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