you know this woman is a snake right? She made a lot of mistakes in sm and now she got greedy cause newjeans became popular. She was pulling foreign investors behind hybe's back and when hybe got to know it, they told her to step down. Wait more info will come soon but whatever you do don't trust a snake's tears. She made big mess at sm too.
Hybe owns Ador fully. At least the groups are given autonomy and don't all have the same sound like some groups. This is why these subsidiaries are for. Just because coca cola decided to make cherry flavored coke in another facility, doesn't mean coca cola doesn't own it, esp if they say oh this person is great at designing. You r over this business, then the person tries to take over everything, and try stealing the formula while making coca cola look bad. Like oh the new Fanta bottles are like my ideas for the cherry cola. Like really? And you believe it's why she tried to do a hostile takeover and sell trade secrets? She is gonna go to jail and be a good example. They even gave her a stake in the company and she is operating in the same country, not another one. She's really just a bad actor who's covering her face by defending the members. All of this drama with illit might also be part of her plan. So yes it makes sense that she has text messages and how it doesn't make sense cuz hybe owns both.
Творческое отношение к работе и яркую индивидуальность Мин Хиджин отмечала сама Хайб , но когда вышли финансовые вопросы - тут все это оказалось ненужным.
Read through all of her statements in the press conference and I have to say, she puts out convincing points. The screenshots she put out also pretty much proves that some of Hybe's higher ups are manipulative. The members and their parents seem to trust her aswell, which is rare in kpop groups when there's a serious controversy like this and Hybe's statement regarding that was just "stop mentioning the artists and their parents as it degrades them", so I'm leaning more towards her words but also waiting for trial and Hybe's proofs
The fact that Newjeans and their parents are on MHJ's side speaks VOLUMES and, to me, it's the strongest testimony as to who's got Newjeans best interests at heart. (Hint: it isn't Hybe.)
Can you tell me if she provided any proof against the allegations in terms of stock and shares? Because she is clearly making statements about New Jeans and HYBE being sketchy, which when it came to Source Music, we gfriend fans knew already, but does she have anything against the actual accusations? All I read was that she said she gets paid a lot, but that doesn’t really help her in this audit. Moral character battles aside, because they both suck there, can she prove she didn’t plan an ADOR takeover?
@@moonsigil what proof ? This drama did not start because of reason she mentioned. This whole drama started because she wanted to make ador independent and hybe has already proof it. And her being her hold press conference talking about her emotions and she is a awesome person and how she almost fainted. This and that not exact proof to show that she hasn’t done anything wrong . Only some conversations of her and hybe CEOs
@@moonsigilthey can prove it. They have solid evidence is what they said. She was accused of leaking personal information of artists and stealing sensitive information about hybe through a hybe employee. She was also accused of power abuse and manipulation. If u go see other articles of Korean news u will get to know that she said "it will be better for me if BTS enlist". And she also told it very clearly that she wanted to form newjeans, when infact NJ had to be rebuted under source music. And since source music was under debt they rushed lesera's debut. MJH also told that she wanted to start from scratch and needed to spend lots of money. Which she got it from hybe. When she started not listening to bang pd and did what she wanted, he got upset with her. She even dragged other artists in this mess and the entire time she kept speaking about girls group conflicts and didn't clear anything about the allegations made on her. According to Korean news she even tried to buy shares and free ador from hybe and become independent. Sure she is denying it, but im telling you what various news articles have told. According to today's news she threatend legal action if the audit was made public. If she is innocent then why hide it? And today hybe sued her and things will go to court. Since hybe is so confident I think things will be in their favour. Newjeans parents were upset coz the girls couldn't debut before, but think about it. MJH wanted newjeans. But source music was going bankrupt and to make up to the debt they rushed and made lesera in just 5 months and included 2 popular members chaewon and Sakura. After which only newjeans debuted.
International fans are mad cuz they think its all against BTS (because they belong to HYBE). Yall dont even understand what she said in the conference and got delusional by HYBE's manipulation. HYBE did so much manipulation against common audiences 💀
For your kind information We aren't mad because we think it's all against BTS it's bcz this woman asked a shaman to make sure BTS go to military saying it would be more beneficial to her if they aren't around also it is said she was leaking the personal information about the hybe idols!! research properly before saying anything in this matter!!
We don't have to save BSH ass. BTS and Army will get past this like everything else haters want to throw at us. It's laughable really, NJ and MHJ was not even a thing , while BTS are holding things down and at the top while on hiatus in military. Bang only mistake was hiring MHJ, she is delusional. Bang should have thought twice about hiring a past SM employee, her schemes have caught up with her.
For real! After watching Chinese translation, I can really feel how much Min Hee Jin cares for Newjeans and their families and vice versa. Insecure men in Hybe need to step down and acknowledge her success like a true man. And fans who just follow blindly hating on her after hearing their favourite group’s names without watching the WHOLE context are supporters of those snakes in Hybe.
@@Lainelainehere I was amazed to see international fans and hybe fans who deeply believe BSH is an innocent man. There are people raising their opinions on how sketchy that company feels and there were thousands of this fans attacking people under the post. It's all a big hive mentality. It's creepy
pls read: As a Korean who watch and understood the whole conference, min hee jin definitely showed her sincereness toward her group and how much she actually care about newjeans. For the foreigners who might not fully understood the conference, heres the abridgment. 1. When min hee jin first got out from SM, bang scouted her as a director of hybe’s first girl group, saying that he is not so confident with the girl group field. 2. After getting in to hybe min hee jin scouted current newjeans members by persuading that they are going to be the first girl group from hybe. 3. However, before newjeans’s debut, bang si hyuk suddenly ‘informed’ that hybe is going to postpone the debut of newjeans, since they are going to release le sserafim, directed by bang si hyuk. Min and the newjeans members’s parents were frustrated and got angry with the company’s reversal, because the title that hybe is going to release their first girl group meant a lot - public was paying much attention. Nevertheless, hybe enforced the debut of le sserafim and even privately noted min should not make any public relations of newjeans, because it might disperse all the attention from le sserafim. (And thats why newjeans suddenly came out from nowhere) 4. Min felt sorry for the newjeans members and tried to advance the debut, moreover she didn’t liked how bang interfered everything she does and that is the reasons why she created affiliated label ‘ador’ 5. After all those incidents newjeans finally debuted, and got FIRE. Here, bang probably got envy of her artistic appreciation: he started to interrupt everything newjeans do. You can think about why newjeans never showed themselves on public airwaves, and why hybe never posts single newjeans’ shorts, promotions or pictures on their official youtube channel. Bang even wised up on Min by messages about the whole situation.(she showed obvious, physical evidences with everything she said.) 6. Recently, bang released the second girl group that he directed, illit. The general opinion with the group in korea was that their styles, songs, dances, and even the concept picture is to similar to those of newjeans. Min felt the same, and she appealed that mocking within the subsidiary companies won’t make anything better, it will only consume the uniqueness and industrializing girl groups will degrade the quality of the music market in korea. (Maybe this is the main point where Bang got pissed.) 7. Recently, le sserafim shitted, showed their poor performance in Coachella, k pop fans in Korea was very disappointed with it. And two days after le sserafims’s last performance, which was one day before newjeans’ official comeback, bang suddenly publicized his CONVICTION that Min tried overtake newjeans from hybe, without providing any actually valid evidence. The conversation in private messenger between min and ador’s vice president that bang asserts which motivated his conviction found out to be more like a wall in back (joke-like conversation) about bang who’s not supporting newjeans at all. In korea, Hybe is already famous for maliciously instigating public opinion by hiring so called 댓글부대, that posts or leaves intentional comments everywhere. Even after reading all this, foreigners still might not understand why we all believe what min hee jin said. Its embaracing but if you ever experienced office life in Korea, you might agree that all these stories are quite far from her own fantasy, these things actually do happen in Korea. She also showed dozens of proofs that everything she said is true. Furthermore, not only the newjeans members but even their parents are with min’s side. From min’s instagram and newjeans’s official youtube channel, you can see how much min cares about members. 99 percent of the Public opinion in Korea already leaned toward min, we are not being emotional, if you can ever understand Korean language, understand gloomy korean society, you will also understand why we support min. She proceeded the conference with single bottle of water. Not having any script, she answered thousands of question without hesitation. She was not just sobbing or cursing out there for the whole time. Its true she had been a bit emotional, but everybody who watched the conference, even the reporters there changed their minds after that. Come on guys, koreans are not idiots, there’s reason why we support min
I do not know what to say but she has been doing artist branding, ie : developing image to form certain public perception tho. It is easy for her to get public sympathy. However, it will be difficult for her to get employed or work together with other people after seeing her throwing shit on her bos' face publicly like that. None is perfect. No perfect bos in the world. She should have put some limitation. She herself might have made top directors angry/impleasant with her unconsciously during working. There are some damages occured indirectly while she was working there.
I am a Korean who has lived in Korea since birth. 99.9% of Koreans are on Min Hee-jin's side. It is so stupid and pathetic that everyone is being instigated by something provocative. And I think Min is not talking about facts, but buying emotions. But if you say these things, you will get booed by Koreans.
As an international fan, I'm happy that finally koreans are now siding to Min Hee-jin . I'm Min Hee-jin side ever since , she is like a mother to New Jeans. I never doubt her sincerity .
@@_ishang98I don’t doubt her sincerity for NWJ, but I hope she addresses the creepy lyrics in Cookie. Because at this point, all international fans have a bad picture of her since those lyrics came out. A lot of fans do see the misuse of power & authority within the Hybe leadership but not everyone wants to support a creepy person even if they do have evidence of corruption in power.
Its crazy how it all started with copying allegations (although she is the last person that should talk about copying) to all that mess that is happening now. And i don't understand why she even started it. I mean its okay to use bts's name for nj promotion, since she never said anything about that but others can't even dare to use a similar concept. A similar concept not exactly the same
🤦🏻♂️ L take, she didn't started it. Its Hybe who throw the allegations first but didn't provide any evidence whatsoever until now. 😮💨 People are so gullable this days.
Bang Si Hyuk, the founder of Hybe is playing dirty by framing MHJ trying to betray Hybe. In fact, he is the one who discriminate Newjeans. He strongly opposed MHJ’s NJ concept in term of selection of members & debut songs (Attention, Ditto). He also once forced MHJ to take Sakura & Chaewon into her first Hybe girl group when MHJ first entered Hybe, but was denied by MHJ. (Sakura & Chaewon didn’t match the vibes MHJ wanted for her girl group project). Bang took this personally and hated MHJ eversince. He never took group photo with NJ members, neither congratulate them despite of their oustanding perfomance worldwide. Instead he is using Lesserafim and Illit, the girl groups he created to compete with NJ. Now since he is debuting Illit with the concept similar to NJ, it is clear that he try to play dirty to disband MHJ and Newjeans because he just cannot defeat NJ (such as recent bad reputation of Lesserafim in Coachella perfomance). He is a man with big ego, refuse to lose to a woman.
@@wildlotus4339 I am very much welcome (and waiting for) Mr. Bang Si Hyuk to organise a press conference answering all the questions from the press regarding the conflict on the spot, instead of hiding behind the lawyers and the paper statement 😀
If min heejin this much loyal then she should take a step before when hybe told her crushing aespa. I think crushing aespa topic is a plan of mhj to gain some sympathies from aespa and sm stans.
@@Wakilonzo I did and it wasn't unhinged. Everyone in chat was on her side at the end of the conference except for international fans who didn't speak Korean and couldn't understand what she was saying. She was actually extremely funny and honest.
@@Wakilonzo then read the translations posted online instead of watching the "unhinged" video. That might give you a clear opinion since the scene seems to bother you
@@nirmalideori9833 She said that Gfriend's disbandment had nothing to do with her though, unless you have valid proof. Did you even watch or read the press conference?
@@Rooibostea5959Just because it's the same strife pattern its already part of promotion. I too have a strife long sleeve am I part of Newjeans promotion team? 🤦🏻♂️
She claimed in this press conference the shaman was really just her friend. She was ranting to a friend, A friend who is also just happens to be a shaman.
@@moonsigil nah it's different. Tarot only gives clue, while shaman tell you exactly what to do. Tarot: someone's going to kill you. Shaman: Leonardo Dicaprio is planning to kill you, kill him first
She legit said she chose the members based on how young they were and that one of them was prettier when she was younger. Like idk her well before she brought in bts into all this mess but apparently this creepiness towards kids is not new? Why tf did hybe hire her?
When did she say that? I didn't see the translations of that at all. The only part she mentioned about the members as trainees was when she said she could only take Minji then and how the others gave auditions the other part when she mentioned them was about them giving their support and worrying about her
@Toy_In_Tub There are translations with the video where she said she could only choose only minji because the other trainees were too old. With the direct quote, "minji was really pretty when she was young, even prettier than she is now." Then she started talking about not being paid enough, and her lawyer stopped her. And then she talked about the members visiting her, crying with her and comforting her
Nuance doesn't get through. Lost in translation. This is meant in a complimentary way, as if to say, "Minji is so beautiful now, but if you can believe it, she was even more lovely/cute as a child".
@@irisjasmine8532 her choosing Minji because of her age wasn't in the translations I read. Perhaps, like the other reply said, that was a mistranslation
I honestly don’t care about most of what she said, it’s technically irrelevant outside of the court of public opinion, but does she have a case against the actual accusations of leaking information, external consultations, and staff irregularities? Stop making this a circus around New Jeans and ‘I am the sole reason for their success’ and all that bs and HYBE stans throwing out random quotes and tell me if anyone has proof for or against the actual accusations? It’s stupid SM drama to cover up the greedy parties all over again.
Its not her to prove anything its Hybe, remember its Hybe who did the alleging here not her. And Hybe didn't put fort any semblance of evidence whatsoever. Until they do and prove it, she clear of anything.
@@Zero.Requiem the point is that HYBE has the audit, so they can just say they are letting the auditors and lawyers handle it. But she said she is clearing her name and yet she didn’t exactly do that. Instead she made it more of a mess and intertwined the members and their families with her, so if the audit doesn’t go her way or HYBE has some case against her in the courts, the artist will suffer because she aired out the weird dirty laundry they both had that has nothing to do with the legal side. If you say you are clearing your name, don’t just make it more messy, actually provide proof you are clear and they are framing you and don’t just do what you know gets the public on your side, possibly, temporarily. When she said she’s bringing them down with her, she did not exclude the very, very young people she is in charge of.
@@it.comes.around your arguments would be fine IF HYBE PROVIDED ANY SEMBLANCE OF EVIDENCE ON ALL OF THEIR ALLEGATION which they didn't do up to this day. If that had happen then me too would call for her to prove her innocence but Hybe didn't do that up until now. Hybe just want to play the image game when the biggest image game they can do is provide evidence.
Bcoz they will present it to court bcoz its the right place to show your evidence and not the conference this is not a childish drama that u can just present to the public just to gain sympathy.public opinion is not helpful in this situation they are just a hypocrite who insult and laughing at u hybe did the right thing.evisence is for public it should be inside the court.
@@corhazon902 all this "because they will present it in court" is bullshit. Why? Because why would they call a shareholders meeting if the original goal is to know if MHJ did try to usurp? And that particular case is not even in the court yet. So your just kicking out the person who made Newjeans a success because of some allegation without proving anything? THE REASONING IS THIS, THEY WANTED TO TAKEOVER CONTROL OF NEWJEANS BUT SINCE MHJ IS DOING A GREAT JOB MANAGING NEWJEANS HYBE COULDN'T DO IT DIRECTLY, NOT ONLY IT WILL HAVE A BAD LOOK FOR THEM, THEY ALSO CAN BE SUE. WHY DO YOU THINK MAJORITY OF KOREANS SUPPORT MHJ AFTER HEARING HER SIDE? BECAUSE INCIDENT LIKE MHJ IS EXPERIENCING RIGHT NOW IS FAR TO COMMON IN KOREA. AND ONLY INTERNATIONAL FANS THINK THEY KNOW EVERYTHING. BUT ALMOST ALL THE VICTIM IF THIS KIND OF INCIDENT IS THE LESS FORTUNATE. AND BEFORE YOU SAY ANYTHING MHJ IS INDEED LESS FORTUNATE COMPARE TO THE ENTIRE MACHINERY OF HYBE. SO CREATE A BUZZ ACCUSING SOMEONE OF SOMETHING, THEN HAVE ENOUGH BACKING OF USELESS IDIOTS.(IN THIS CASE INTERNATIONAL FANS) THEN CALL A MEETING TO ULTIMATELY HANDLE THE SITUATION (IN THIS CASE THE SHAREHOLDER MEETING) IF ANY IF THIS IS NOT THE CASE THEN WHY IS THE SHAREHOLDER MEETING ONLY LASTED 30 MINS WHEN THEIR WHOLE CASE THAT'S THE REASON OF THE MEETING IS NOT EVEN IN COURT AND ONLY UNDER INVESTIGATION. INTERNATIONAL USELESS IDIOTS FANS SHOULD SHUT THE FAKUP IF THEY'RE ONLY REACTING BECAUSE HYBE IS ALSO HANDLING BTS. IF YOU DON'T KNOW OR UNDERSTAND EVERY CONTEXT OF THE STORY *SHUTDAFAKUP
"ADOR CEO Min Hee-jin slams HYBE" did you watch the same conference as I did? She slammed herself in a terrible way 💀her attorneys were even advising her not to speak in certain occasions (about confidential stuff) and trying to help and she just interrupted them left and right... the woman thinks she's god's gift on earth even saying several times "There's no one like me in this industry.", well... I'm glad there isn't 💀 I just hope NewJeans can recover from this, because this woman is a gaslighting snake, shading fake tears on a press conference
"On April 25 KST, HYBE announced that the company will report CEO Min Hee-Jin of its subsidiary label ADOR to police for a breach of trust and other related allegations today. HYBE secured substantial evidence to prove that Min deliberately led the plan to take over management control of the subsidiary, through the audit process. The evidence included detailed discussions that Min has ordered the ADOR management to find ways to pressure HYBE into ultimately selling ADOR’s shares. One of the audited parties submitted information assets to seize the management of ADOR and to attempt to contact external investors. The auditee also admitted to creating the documents to attack HYBE."
Don’t be fooled… She came looking like a suffering VICTIM ON PURPOSE! The way she is dressed and her demeanor is calculated to evoke sympathy AND empathy. She 100% should leave New Jeans (and their parents) out of the conversation, as they are mostly minors and of course they will be loyal to her - they are idols because of her guidance. You can’t take that away from her. But many of her statements and proclamations are again, calculated, and some are patently false or misleading. There’s a lot going on in this case. Watch some channels that are analyzing this case too. I don’t know if she is innocent of the charges or guilty, but I always feel some kind of way (suspicious) when people that are in positions of power and influence, suddenly try and make themselves appear as helpless, hapless victims when they are accused of some shady or questionable behavior.
@@Zero.Requiem well you’re right about that…apparently her personal style leans more towards unkempt teenager, than polished, professional CEO. But again, she IS making specific choices in how she presents herself to the public.
pls read: As a Korean who watch and understood the whole conference, min hee jin definitely showed her sincereness toward her group and how much she actually care about newjeans. For the foreigners who might not fully understood the conference, heres the abridgment. 1. When min hee jin first got out from SM, bang scouted her as a director of hybe’s first girl group, saying that he is not so confident with the girl group field. 2. After getting in to hybe min hee jin scouted current newjeans members by persuading that they are going to be the first girl group from hybe. 3. However, before newjeans’s debut, bang si hyuk suddenly ‘informed’ that hybe is going to postpone the debut of newjeans, since they are going to release le sserafim, directed by bang si hyuk. Min and the newjeans members’s parents were frustrated and got angry with the company’s reversal, because the title that hybe is going to release their first girl group meant a lot - public was paying much attention. Nevertheless, hybe enforced the debut of le sserafim and even privately noted min should not make any public relations of newjeans, because it might disperse all the attention from le sserafim. (And thats why newjeans suddenly came out from nowhere) 4. Min felt sorry for the newjeans members and tried to advance the debut, moreover she didn’t liked how bang interfered everything she does and that is the reasons why she created affiliated label ‘ador’ 5. After all those incidents newjeans finally debuted, and got FIRE. Here, bang probably got envy of her artistic appreciation: he started to interrupt everything newjeans do. You can think about why newjeans never showed themselves on public airwaves, and why hybe never posts single newjeans’ shorts, promotions or pictures on their official youtube channel. Bang even wised up on Min by messages about the whole situation.(she showed obvious, physical evidences with everything she said.) 6. Recently, bang released the second girl group that he directed, illit. The general opinion with the group in korea was that their styles, songs, dances, and even the concept picture is to similar to those of newjeans. Min felt the same, and she appealed that mocking within the subsidiary companies won’t make anything better, it will only consume the uniqueness and industrializing girl groups will degrade the quality of the music market in korea. (Maybe this is the main point where Bang got pissed.) 7. Recently, le sserafim shitted, showed their poor performance in Coachella, k pop fans in Korea was very disappointed with it. And two days after le sserafims’s last performance, which was one day before newjeans’ official comeback, bang suddenly publicized his CONVICTION that Min tried overtake newjeans from hybe, without providing any actually valid evidence. The conversation in private messenger between min and ador’s vice president that bang asserts which motivated his conviction found out to be more like a wall in back (joke-like conversation) about bang who’s not supporting newjeans at all. In korea, Hybe is already famous for maliciously instigating public opinion by hiring so called 댓글부대, that posts or leaves intentional comments everywhere. Even after reading all this, foreigners still might not understand why we all believe what min hee jin said. Its embaracing but if you ever experienced office life in Korea, you might agree that all these stories are quite far from her own fantasy, these things actually do happen in Korea. She also showed dozens of proofs that everything she said is true. Furthermore, not only the newjeans members but even their parents are with min’s side. From min’s instagram and newjeans’s official youtube channel, you can see how much min cares about members. 99 percent of the Public opinion in Korea already leaned toward min, we are not being emotional, if you can ever understand Korean language, understand gloomy korean society, you will also understand why we support min. She proceeded the conference with single bottle of water. Not having any script, she answered thousands of question without hesitation. She was not just sobbing or cursing out there for the whole time. Its true she had been a bit emotional, but everybody who watched the conference, even the reporters there changed their minds after that. Come on guys, koreans are not idiots, there’s reason why we support min
@@24kzumbagoldwithsaleemah32 yeah like i should believe you than an authentic korean. You who probably don't speak or understand a single korean word more less its culture. L TAKE 🤦🏻♂️ WHEREVER YOU LOOK AT IT.
I don’t trust her either . Only one side from her. Because hybe has also released their kakaotalk conversation and mhj did plan to make ador independent company and it shows other conversations as well.
Making ADOR an independent company is the actual accusations against her, but here she is throwing out a bunch of stuff about her her her. Should she not be looking towards saving herself for the legal battles? Her only concern seems to be the court of public opinion and being the only person who gets attention. She comes off as a narcissist who constantly pulls New Jeans out like they are her dolls.
I'm Korean. Before this conference, people all thought like you. But then she turned everything out 180 and majority people support her now. Maybe you just have to wait till her translated conference script come out.
@@user-to4iq4bq9g I already watched and this has nothing to do with you being Korean . She hold press conferences first and play victim then obviously she has more advantage. It’s just hard to trust her one side story please understand.
@@euniceshimray4680fue Hybe quien la acusó de varias cosas a través de los medios de comunicación, acaso Min Hee Jin no puede salir a defenderse de las acusaciones que hace Hybe? Además Hybe no ha mostrado pruebas de sus acusaciones
Shit talking her bosses colleages was D U M B but after hearing what bang sihyuk and source ceo put her through i dont even blame her tbh. She really does sound batshit insane though
No she sounds honest and sincere. The batshit crazy ones are the politicians and businessmen with the stone cold faces or fake smiles who are actually pieces of shit behind the scenes.
How could you trust someone that doesn't seem to have integrity & respect? She seems to be a betrayal at a first place. Idk else abt these issues, but again it seems a way to discredit BSH and HYBE. Accusing & dragging evryone is makng it more worse. Involvng media on this conflict of interest is prob way to take advantage out of it.
Wow from all that I'm seeing to this point, now I'm assuming that Hybe disbanded Gfriend because they think they couldn't compete with other new gg, so therefore they debuted Lesserafim in Source music which can also gain more popularity because of the ex-members of izone. And that's why they debuted lesserafim before new jeans. I did wonder how they debuted out of nowhere when new jeans actually was the first ones to release their concept film. I could see that hybe only wants fame and attention and to get that they just create controversies about their artists. This is just my assumption for now because idk what else might be revealed in the future and what's actually the truth.
아미들이 회사앞에 근조화환 보낸 이유가 다 있음. 쌓여왔던게 폭발한거.. 회사가 잘못하면 매번 여론앞에 bts를 방패막이로 세웠다는거 팬들이라면 모를수가 없지 저번에 군대 관련으로 하이브 임원 박지원이 말실수한것도 진을 앞세워서 여론의 뭇매를 맞게 했던걸 생각하면.. 탈 하이브하자^^
Then your an idiot, first Hybe said that and made it seem she said that. 2nd you base everything on bts not evidence? What if it turns out the company who handle bts is some creepy entity who uses idols? But since you don't want to look at the evidence properly and just base it if bts is affected or not, it my end up hurting bts for real. 😮💨
Me too. She came with receipts and was 100% sincere. Instead of trying to be politically correct and say the right things, she revealed her whole self and seemed 100% genuine. It was really refreshing to watch.
@@Chris-qh5tz She has a very very direct way of speaking that is not considered "proper" for women in Korea's misogynistic society. But she was direct and forthcoming, and showed her emotions. I don't know how this will turn out, but I think time and history will vindicate her. Right now the hate is strong but when the dust settles people will realize the game Hybe played.
if hybe just take pledis and koz agency i think they dont have a problem poor bts the building they built now is to many issue and people make hybe a bad company
All those who were fooled by her acting will regret it soon enough .. Hybe knows exactly all the legalities they have to engage to deal with MHJ.. she is a traitor on board that needs to go asap👍👍👍
it's not just concept. hair, makeup, clothes, choreography - they copied dance moves too. pls read: As a Korean who watch and understood the whole conference, min hee jin definitely showed her sincereness toward her group and how much she actually care about newjeans. For the foreigners who might not fully understood the conference, heres the abridgment. 1. When min hee jin first got out from SM, bang scouted her as a director of hybe’s first girl group, saying that he is not so confident with the girl group field. 2. After getting in to hybe min hee jin scouted current newjeans members by persuading that they are going to be the first girl group from hybe. 3. However, before newjeans’s debut, bang si hyuk suddenly ‘informed’ that hybe is going to postpone the debut of newjeans, since they are going to release le sserafim, directed by bang si hyuk. Min and the newjeans members’s parents were frustrated and got angry with the company’s reversal, because the title that hybe is going to release their first girl group meant a lot - public was paying much attention. Nevertheless, hybe enforced the debut of le sserafim and even privately noted min should not make any public relations of newjeans, because it might disperse all the attention from le sserafim. (And thats why newjeans suddenly came out from nowhere) 4. Min felt sorry for the newjeans members and tried to advance the debut, moreover she didn’t liked how bang interfered everything she does and that is the reasons why she created affiliated label ‘ador’ 5. After all those incidents newjeans finally debuted, and got FIRE. Here, bang probably got envy of her artistic appreciation: he started to interrupt everything newjeans do. You can think about why newjeans never showed themselves on public airwaves, and why hybe never posts single newjeans’ shorts, promotions or pictures on their official youtube channel. Bang even wised up on Min by messages about the whole situation.(she showed obvious, physical evidences with everything she said.) 6. Recently, bang released the second girl group that he directed, illit. The general opinion with the group in korea was that their styles, songs, dances, and even the concept picture is to similar to those of newjeans. Min felt the same, and she appealed that mocking within the subsidiary companies won’t make anything better, it will only consume the uniqueness and industrializing girl groups will degrade the quality of the music market in korea. (Maybe this is the main point where Bang got pissed.) 7. Recently, le sserafim shitted, showed their poor performance in Coachella, k pop fans in Korea was very disappointed with it. And two days after le sserafims’s last performance, which was one day before newjeans’ official comeback, bang suddenly publicized his CONVICTION that Min tried overtake newjeans from hybe, without providing any actually valid evidence. The conversation in private messenger between min and ador’s vice president that bang asserts which motivated his conviction found out to be more like a wall in back (joke-like conversation) about bang who’s not supporting newjeans at all. In korea, Hybe is already famous for maliciously instigating public opinion by hiring so called 댓글부대, that posts or leaves intentional comments everywhere. Even after reading all this, foreigners still might not understand why we all believe what min hee jin said. Its embaracing but if you ever experienced office life in Korea, you might agree that all these stories are quite far from her own fantasy, these things actually do happen in Korea. She also showed dozens of proofs that everything she said is true. Furthermore, not only the newjeans members but even their parents are with min’s side. From min’s instagram and newjeans’s official youtube channel, you can see how much min cares about members. 99 percent of the Public opinion in Korea already leaned toward min, we are not being emotional, if you can ever understand Korean language, understand gloomy korean society, you will also understand why we support min. She proceeded the conference with single bottle of water. Not having any script, she answered thousands of question without hesitation. She was not just sobbing or cursing out there for the whole time. Its true she had been a bit emotional, but everybody who watched the conference, even the reporters there changed their minds after that. Come on guys, koreans are not idiots, there’s reason why we support min
I don’t think MHJ is all bad. She’s sincere toward NWJS members. Most the things Hype state about MHJ weren’t even true.. now everyone is hating her and that’s why she looked so frustrated
Does she really care for N J. No. She doesn't!! ONLY FOR THE MOMENT She cares cause they are HER bank. All of you all saying these comments jumping on her bandwagon is halarious.So which company are your faves from? Also her crying cause Hybe expected her to do her job. Really. 1st They were not paying her pennies first of all. She was getting a great salary plus on top of that 18% of the company. Really that's her getting taken advantage of? Hell No!!! Not many companies do that. The fact that she was manipulating situations to gain something for HERSELF IS SHADY AS HELL! WHILE SHES OUT THERE DOING SHADY SHIT TO GAIN SOMETHING THAT WAS NOT HERS IS WRONG. THROWING accusations of being copied and giving out idols info. That's wrong!! Contacting a shaman to do what ever they do to get BTS OUT OF HER WAY IS FOR DAM SURE WRONG!!!! KNEW THEY HAD A SNAKE INSIDE THE COMPANY. ESPECIALLY ALL THE LEAKS OUT ON BTS. RM, JK, TAE , JM. ALL THE OOPS GOING ON. So bottom line facts... she was getting a hefty salary and shares OF 😮 the company to do her job. That's what Hybe was expecting from her. To do her job. Now her talking shit about BTS AND THE COMPNY. DOING SHADY THINGS TO MESS THINGS UP FOR THEM IS WRONG. NO EXCEPTIONS. NOW DOES THE COMPANY BELONG TO HER... ?NO. SHOULD IT? NO!! SHE WAS GETTING PAID GOOD TO DO HER JOB. THE FACTS SHOW WHAT SHE WAS DOING IS WRONG. ITS AGAINST THE LAW. ITS STEALING AND BEING MANIPULATING. WHO CAN TRUST SOMEONE LIKE THAT. NOW HOW IS A SUCCESSFUL COMPANY SUPPOSE TO ACT WHEN THEY HIRE SOMEONE AND HAS TO PUT THEIR TRUST IN THAT PERSON TO DO HER JOB AND THEN FIND OUT SHE WAS WORKING AGAINST THE COMPANY TO PRETTY MUCH STEAL FROM THE COMPANY. WHAT KIND OF COMPANY WOULD JUST ACT AND TREAT THE SITUATION LIKE ITS NO BIG DEAL. I WILL TELL YOU WHAT KIND... AN INCOMPETENT COMPANY AND HYBE IS NOT LIKE THAT. SO ALL YOU ANTIS OR HYBE HATING PEOPLE NEED TO LOOK AT THE BOTTOM LINE. HYBE IS TAKING CARE OF THEIR BUSINESS. I AM NOT SAYING THEY ARE PERFECT. I AM Suing they are doing what a successful company would do to protect what's theirs.
I disagree, why is she blasting NJ members reaching out privately and throwing them into all of this? Saying how all the members called her crying and are in her side etc? That’s not caring that’s selfish AF.
Such things are very common in the entertainment industry. My sister is an actress and I too as a vocalist have seen these things very closely. Most of the people are into secret or casual relationship for business purpose. Only talent isn't enough, such agreements too are required to gain popularity.
@@IllbeOkay-ij1yc Yes but they can take your advantage like they can do dirty things with you. But don't involve in this type of rubbish things it can harm your dignity. Do hardwork insted of involving in this type of things. It is easy process to enter industry but easy things don't last forever. Hard work may look time consuming but it will be very sweet so say no to this type of act❌
Thank you so much for this , I'm actually entering the industry cause since I was young people seemed so happy on the screen that I wanted to be happy too,. Does this thing exist in every industry, even in KPOP?
@@IllbeOkay-ij1yc You can be happy without joining the entertainment industry. You should focus on what you like to do, something you're passionate about and grow in it. These things are everywhere.
NJ never belonged to her. She worked with NJ cause that's what Hybe was paying her to do plus some shares of Ador on top of her salary. Do you all think she was ferrying paid pennies? No, of course not. She was getting paid to do her job that they hired her for!!
@@Mj-lz7onshe made newjeans - newjeans. she even scouted haerin by herself. she made the concept starting from their hair, makeup, clothes, shoes, background , mv location, sound, music, color, vibe, basically every thing. yall might say she doesnt but honey, trust me she partiCIPATES in all those stuff. she made the WORK. if hybe remove her, newjeans would be the same as any other girl group, with same ol’ girl crush concept. they cant remove her but they cant stand her either. she might be cray2 but damn she have TALENT!!!
Yeah but she won't be able to do all that without money and resources HYBE gave her. She should've just created her own label and brought NJ the first time if she wanted. Honestly, they are talented but without the marketing and resources, they wouldn't be that popular. There's a lot of groups more talented than them. Their music were also produced from hybe so even if the concept is great and how talented you are, the resources they got when they debuted really help out a lot in their popularity now. HYBE even put some members in PTD music videos before debut and heavily marketed them as bts dongsaeng the first time. @@Letmein111
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BIG3 will always be the BIG3 haha
One-line : The fight between businessman and an artist
you know this woman is a snake right?
She made a lot of mistakes in sm and now she got greedy cause newjeans became popular. She was pulling foreign investors behind hybe's back and when hybe got to know it, they told her to step down. Wait more info will come soon but whatever you do don't trust a snake's tears. She made big mess at sm too.
Hybe owns Ador fully. At least the groups are given autonomy and don't all have the same sound like some groups. This is why these subsidiaries are for. Just because coca cola decided to make cherry flavored coke in another facility, doesn't mean coca cola doesn't own it, esp if they say oh this person is great at designing. You r over this business, then the person tries to take over everything, and try stealing the formula while making coca cola look bad. Like oh the new Fanta bottles are like my ideas for the cherry cola. Like really? And you believe it's why she tried to do a hostile takeover and sell trade secrets? She is gonna go to jail and be a good example. They even gave her a stake in the company and she is operating in the same country, not another one. She's really just a bad actor who's covering her face by defending the members. All of this drama with illit might also be part of her plan. So yes it makes sense that she has text messages and how it doesn't make sense cuz hybe owns both.
Artist Min Heejin, cheer up🙏
Творческое отношение к работе и яркую индивидуальность Мин Хиджин отмечала сама Хайб , но когда вышли финансовые вопросы - тут все это оказалось ненужным.
Read through all of her statements in the press conference and I have to say, she puts out convincing points. The screenshots she put out also pretty much proves that some of Hybe's higher ups are manipulative. The members and their parents seem to trust her aswell, which is rare in kpop groups when there's a serious controversy like this and Hybe's statement regarding that was just "stop mentioning the artists and their parents as it degrades them", so I'm leaning more towards her words but also waiting for trial and Hybe's proofs
The fact that Newjeans and their parents are on MHJ's side speaks VOLUMES and, to me, it's the strongest testimony as to who's got Newjeans best interests at heart. (Hint: it isn't Hybe.)
Can you tell me if she provided any proof against the allegations in terms of stock and shares? Because she is clearly making statements about New Jeans and HYBE being sketchy, which when it came to Source Music, we gfriend fans knew already, but does she have anything against the actual accusations? All I read was that she said she gets paid a lot, but that doesn’t really help her in this audit. Moral character battles aside, because they both suck there, can she prove she didn’t plan an ADOR takeover?
@@it.comes.around The burden of proof is on Hybe, and they can't prove that she did.
@@moonsigil what proof ? This drama did not start because of reason she mentioned. This whole drama started because she wanted to make ador independent and hybe has already proof it. And her being her hold press conference talking about her emotions and she is a awesome person and how she almost fainted. This and that not exact proof to show that she hasn’t done anything wrong . Only some conversations of her and hybe CEOs
@@moonsigilthey can prove it. They have solid evidence is what they said. She was accused of leaking personal information of artists and stealing sensitive information about hybe through a hybe employee. She was also accused of power abuse and manipulation. If u go see other articles of Korean news u will get to know that she said "it will be better for me if BTS enlist". And she also told it very clearly that she wanted to form newjeans, when infact NJ had to be rebuted under source music. And since source music was under debt they rushed lesera's debut. MJH also told that she wanted to start from scratch and needed to spend lots of money. Which she got it from hybe. When she started not listening to bang pd and did what she wanted, he got upset with her. She even dragged other artists in this mess and the entire time she kept speaking about girls group conflicts and didn't clear anything about the allegations made on her. According to Korean news she even tried to buy shares and free ador from hybe and become independent. Sure she is denying it, but im telling you what various news articles have told. According to today's news she threatend legal action if the audit was made public. If she is innocent then why hide it? And today hybe sued her and things will go to court. Since hybe is so confident I think things will be in their favour. Newjeans parents were upset coz the girls couldn't debut before, but think about it. MJH wanted newjeans. But source music was going bankrupt and to make up to the debt they rushed and made lesera in just 5 months and included 2 popular members chaewon and Sakura. After which only newjeans debuted.
International fans are mad cuz they think its all against BTS (because they belong to HYBE). Yall dont even understand what she said in the conference and got delusional by HYBE's manipulation. HYBE did so much manipulation against common audiences 💀
For your kind information We aren't mad because we think it's all against BTS it's bcz this woman asked a shaman to make sure BTS go to military saying it would be more beneficial to her if they aren't around also it is said she was leaking the personal information about the hybe idols!! research properly before saying anything in this matter!!
@@KuldeepSingh-ny3zw where did you read this lol
@@cell.trance on the articles on Google!!
true that company is pathetic way before
@@cell.trance I read that on an article on Google!!
Hybe stans are too busy saving Bang shi hyuk's ass
We don't have to save BSH ass. BTS and Army will get past this like everything else haters want to throw at us. It's laughable really, NJ and MHJ was not even a thing , while BTS are holding things down and at the top while on hiatus in military. Bang only mistake was hiring MHJ, she is delusional. Bang should have thought twice about hiring a past SM employee, her schemes have caught up with her.
For real! After watching Chinese translation, I can really feel how much Min Hee Jin cares for Newjeans and their families and vice versa. Insecure men in Hybe need to step down and acknowledge her success like a true man.
And fans who just follow blindly hating on her after hearing their favourite group’s names without watching the WHOLE context are supporters of those snakes in Hybe.
@@Lainelainehere I was amazed to see international fans and hybe fans who deeply believe BSH is an innocent man. There are people raising their opinions on how sketchy that company feels and there were thousands of this fans attacking people under the post. It's all a big hive mentality. It's creepy
Please watch these channels posted by Koreans about the business and financial point of views "John Kim(komerican-OG)" and "Seoulite TV"
Ppl don't care abt the whole controversy, the only reason they're hating MHJ is cuz she said that BSH copied her and made BTS.
Support MHJ. Hybe sounds like another corporate bully. Bang si Hyuk sounds like he’s got his ego in the way and blinded by pride
Nah, it goes both ways. Because at the end of the day, it's the artists who's suffered the most. Getting caught in crossfire between capitalists.
Mhj is a criminal
Nah. MHJ is fishy
Mhj did many bad things and so did hybe but hybe seems better than mhj
@@jennnavenus1415 no... min heejin insulted newjeans by saying that minji was better when she was 17 until now that she's no longer a minor
pls read: As a Korean who watch and understood the whole conference, min hee jin definitely showed her sincereness toward her group and how much she actually care about newjeans. For the foreigners who might not fully understood the conference, heres the abridgment.
1. When min hee jin first got out from SM, bang scouted her as a director of hybe’s first girl group, saying that he is not so confident with the girl group field.
2. After getting in to hybe min hee jin scouted current newjeans members by persuading that they are going to be the first girl group from hybe.
3. However, before newjeans’s debut, bang si hyuk suddenly ‘informed’ that hybe is going to postpone the debut of newjeans, since they are going to release le sserafim, directed by bang si hyuk. Min and the newjeans members’s parents were frustrated and got angry with the company’s reversal, because the title that hybe is going to release their first girl group meant a lot - public was paying much attention. Nevertheless, hybe enforced the debut of le sserafim and even privately noted min should not make any public relations of newjeans, because it might disperse all the attention from le sserafim. (And thats why newjeans suddenly came out from nowhere)
4. Min felt sorry for the newjeans members and tried to advance the debut, moreover she didn’t liked how bang interfered everything she does and that is the reasons why she created affiliated label ‘ador’
5. After all those incidents newjeans finally debuted, and got FIRE. Here, bang probably got envy of her artistic appreciation: he started to interrupt everything newjeans do. You can think about why newjeans never showed themselves on public airwaves, and why hybe never posts single newjeans’ shorts, promotions or pictures on their official youtube channel. Bang even wised up on Min by messages about the whole situation.(she showed obvious, physical evidences with everything she said.)
6. Recently, bang released the second girl group that he directed, illit. The general opinion with the group in korea was that their styles, songs, dances, and even the concept picture is to similar to those of newjeans. Min felt the same, and she appealed that mocking within the subsidiary companies won’t make anything better, it will only consume the uniqueness and industrializing girl groups will degrade the quality of the music market in korea. (Maybe this is the main point where Bang got pissed.)
7. Recently, le sserafim shitted, showed their poor performance in Coachella, k pop fans in Korea was very disappointed with it. And two days after le sserafims’s last performance, which was one day before newjeans’ official comeback, bang suddenly publicized his CONVICTION that Min tried overtake newjeans from hybe, without providing any actually valid evidence. The conversation in private messenger between min and ador’s vice president that bang asserts which motivated his conviction found out to be more like a wall in back (joke-like conversation) about bang who’s not supporting newjeans at all.
In korea, Hybe is already famous for maliciously instigating public opinion by hiring so called 댓글부대, that posts or leaves intentional comments everywhere. Even after reading all this, foreigners still might not understand why we all believe what min hee jin said. Its embaracing but if you ever experienced office life in Korea, you might agree that all these stories are quite far from her own fantasy, these things actually do happen in Korea. She also showed dozens of proofs that everything she said is true. Furthermore, not only the newjeans members but even their parents are with min’s side. From min’s instagram and newjeans’s official youtube channel, you can see how much min cares about members. 99 percent of the Public opinion in Korea already leaned toward min, we are not being emotional, if you can ever understand Korean language, understand gloomy korean society, you will also understand why we support min. She proceeded the conference with single bottle of water. Not having any script, she answered thousands of question without hesitation. She was not just sobbing or cursing out there for the whole time. Its true she had been a bit emotional, but everybody who watched the conference, even the reporters there changed their minds after that. Come on guys, koreans are not idiots, there’s reason why we support min
I do not know what to say but she has been doing artist branding, ie : developing image to form certain public perception tho. It is easy for her to get public sympathy. However, it will be difficult for her to get employed or work together with other people after seeing her throwing shit on her bos' face publicly like that. None is perfect. No perfect bos in the world. She should have put some limitation. She herself might have made top directors angry/impleasant with her unconsciously during working. There are some damages occured indirectly while she was working there.
I am a Korean who has lived in Korea since birth. 99.9% of Koreans are on Min Hee-jin's side. It is so stupid and pathetic that everyone is being instigated by something provocative. And I think Min is not talking about facts, but buying emotions. But if you say these things, you will get booed by Koreans.
As an international fan, I'm happy that finally koreans are now siding to Min Hee-jin . I'm Min Hee-jin side ever since , she is like a mother to New Jeans. I never doubt her sincerity .
@@_ishang98I don’t doubt her sincerity for NWJ, but I hope she addresses the creepy lyrics in Cookie. Because at this point, all international fans have a bad picture of her since those lyrics came out. A lot of fans do see the misuse of power & authority within the Hybe leadership but not everyone wants to support a creepy person even if they do have evidence of corruption in power.
@@_ishang98 This aged like milk
Its crazy how it all started with copying allegations (although she is the last person that should talk about copying) to all that mess that is happening now. And i don't understand why she even started it. I mean its okay to use bts's name for nj promotion, since she never said anything about that but others can't even dare to use a similar concept. A similar concept not exactly the same
🤦🏻♂️ L take, she didn't started it. Its Hybe who throw the allegations first but didn't provide any evidence whatsoever until now. 😮💨 People are so gullable this days.
Bang Si Hyuk, the founder of Hybe is playing dirty by framing MHJ trying to betray Hybe. In fact, he is the one who discriminate Newjeans. He strongly opposed MHJ’s NJ concept in term of selection of members & debut songs (Attention, Ditto). He also once forced MHJ to take Sakura & Chaewon into her first Hybe girl group when MHJ first entered Hybe, but was denied by MHJ. (Sakura & Chaewon didn’t match the vibes MHJ wanted for her girl group project). Bang took this personally and hated MHJ eversince. He never took group photo with NJ members, neither congratulate them despite of their oustanding perfomance worldwide. Instead he is using Lesserafim and Illit, the girl groups he created to compete with NJ. Now since he is debuting Illit with the concept similar to NJ, it is clear that he try to play dirty to disband MHJ and Newjeans because he just cannot defeat NJ (such as recent bad reputation of Lesserafim in Coachella perfomance). He is a man with big ego, refuse to lose to a woman.
Public including you only hear what she said. You should hear the other side first before making a judgement.
@@wildlotus4339 I am very much welcome (and waiting for) Mr. Bang Si Hyuk to organise a press conference answering all the questions from the press regarding the conflict on the spot, instead of hiding behind the lawyers and the paper statement 😀
If min heejin this much loyal then she should take a step before when hybe told her crushing aespa. I think crushing aespa topic is a plan of mhj to gain some sympathies from aespa and sm stans.
Yeah the saying was needed indeed ... many have being destroying her name 😒
Finally everyone is knowing the real side of hybe 😂....thanks Min hee jin
You should watch the conference it was unhinged
@@Wakilonzo I did and it wasn't unhinged. Everyone in chat was on her side at the end of the conference except for international fans who didn't speak Korean and couldn't understand what she was saying. She was actually extremely funny and honest.
No
Everyone was not on her side she is the reason why gfried disbanded
@@Wakilonzo then read the translations posted online instead of watching the "unhinged" video. That might give you a clear opinion since the scene seems to bother you
@@nirmalideori9833 She said that Gfriend's disbandment had nothing to do with her though, unless you have valid proof. Did you even watch or read the press conference?
shes taking the,advantage while BTS are in military..😊
Her outfit says pity me.
because you can afford a sweat 😂 get a job
I think she always wears casual clothes, that's her style, because she likes art so it represents her as she is. it's her personality
@@renaisants ?
Lol it was an advertisement of Newjeans’s new album. Look at minji’s concept photos.
@@Rooibostea5959Just because it's the same strife pattern its already part of promotion. I too have a strife long sleeve am I part of Newjeans promotion team? 🤦🏻♂️
It is clear to me that HYBE is blatantly maneuvering to take down ADOR
I don't know which one is right but MHJ sounds suspicious too. Didn't she consult everything with a shaman?
She claimed in this press conference the shaman was really just her friend. She was ranting to a friend, A friend who is also just happens to be a shaman.
@sheklslrlol same😂😭
I literally can't take this whole controversy seriously 💀
I don't see how that's any different than someone who believes in astrology or Tarot.
@@moonsigil nah it's different. Tarot only gives clue, while shaman tell you exactly what to do. Tarot: someone's going to kill you. Shaman: Leonardo Dicaprio is planning to kill you, kill him first
She legit said she chose the members based on how young they were and that one of them was prettier when she was younger. Like idk her well before she brought in bts into all this mess but apparently this creepiness towards kids is not new? Why tf did hybe hire her?
When did she say that? I didn't see the translations of that at all. The only part she mentioned about the members as trainees was when she said she could only take Minji then and how the others gave auditions the other part when she mentioned them was about them giving their support and worrying about her
@Toy_In_Tub There are translations with the video where she said she could only choose only minji because the other trainees were too old. With the direct quote, "minji was really pretty when she was young, even prettier than she is now." Then she started talking about not being paid enough, and her lawyer stopped her. And then she talked about the members visiting her, crying with her and comforting her
Nuance doesn't get through. Lost in translation. This is meant in a complimentary way, as if to say, "Minji is so beautiful now, but if you can believe it, she was even more lovely/cute as a child".
Bc the kpop industry WANTS kids. min heejin isnt the only ped0 there
@@irisjasmine8532 her choosing Minji because of her age wasn't in the translations I read. Perhaps, like the other reply said, that was a mistranslation
I honestly don’t care about most of what she said, it’s technically irrelevant outside of the court of public opinion, but does she have a case against the actual accusations of leaking information, external consultations, and staff irregularities? Stop making this a circus around New Jeans and ‘I am the sole reason for their success’ and all that bs and HYBE stans throwing out random quotes and tell me if anyone has proof for or against the actual accusations? It’s stupid SM drama to cover up the greedy parties all over again.
Its not her to prove anything its Hybe, remember its Hybe who did the alleging here not her. And Hybe didn't put fort any semblance of evidence whatsoever. Until they do and prove it, she clear of anything.
@@Zero.Requiem the point is that HYBE has the audit, so they can just say they are letting the auditors and lawyers handle it. But she said she is clearing her name and yet she didn’t exactly do that. Instead she made it more of a mess and intertwined the members and their families with her, so if the audit doesn’t go her way or HYBE has some case against her in the courts, the artist will suffer because she aired out the weird dirty laundry they both had that has nothing to do with the legal side. If you say you are clearing your name, don’t just make it more messy, actually provide proof you are clear and they are framing you and don’t just do what you know gets the public on your side, possibly, temporarily. When she said she’s bringing them down with her, she did not exclude the very, very young people she is in charge of.
@@it.comes.around your arguments would be fine IF HYBE PROVIDED ANY SEMBLANCE OF EVIDENCE ON ALL OF THEIR ALLEGATION which they didn't do up to this day. If that had happen then me too would call for her to prove her innocence but Hybe didn't do that up until now. Hybe just want to play the image game when the biggest image game they can do is provide evidence.
Bcoz they will present it to court bcoz its the right place to show your evidence and not the conference this is not a childish drama that u can just present to the public just to gain sympathy.public opinion is not helpful in this situation they are just a hypocrite who insult and laughing at u hybe did the right thing.evisence is for public it should be inside the court.
@@corhazon902 all this "because they will present it in court" is bullshit. Why? Because why would they call a shareholders meeting if the original goal is to know if MHJ did try to usurp? And that particular case is not even in the court yet. So your just kicking out the person who made Newjeans a success because of some allegation without proving anything?
THE REASONING IS THIS, THEY WANTED TO TAKEOVER CONTROL OF NEWJEANS BUT SINCE MHJ IS DOING A GREAT JOB MANAGING NEWJEANS HYBE COULDN'T DO IT DIRECTLY, NOT ONLY IT WILL HAVE A BAD LOOK FOR THEM, THEY ALSO CAN BE SUE. WHY DO YOU THINK MAJORITY OF KOREANS SUPPORT MHJ AFTER HEARING HER SIDE? BECAUSE INCIDENT LIKE MHJ IS EXPERIENCING RIGHT NOW IS FAR TO COMMON IN KOREA. AND ONLY INTERNATIONAL FANS THINK THEY KNOW EVERYTHING. BUT ALMOST ALL THE VICTIM IF THIS KIND OF INCIDENT IS THE LESS FORTUNATE. AND BEFORE YOU SAY ANYTHING MHJ IS INDEED LESS FORTUNATE COMPARE TO THE ENTIRE MACHINERY OF HYBE.
SO CREATE A BUZZ ACCUSING SOMEONE OF SOMETHING, THEN HAVE ENOUGH BACKING OF USELESS IDIOTS.(IN THIS CASE INTERNATIONAL FANS) THEN CALL A MEETING TO ULTIMATELY HANDLE THE SITUATION (IN THIS CASE THE SHAREHOLDER MEETING)
IF ANY IF THIS IS NOT THE CASE THEN WHY IS THE SHAREHOLDER MEETING ONLY LASTED 30 MINS WHEN THEIR WHOLE CASE THAT'S THE REASON OF THE MEETING IS NOT EVEN IN COURT AND ONLY UNDER INVESTIGATION.
INTERNATIONAL USELESS IDIOTS FANS SHOULD SHUT THE FAKUP IF THEY'RE ONLY REACTING BECAUSE HYBE IS ALSO HANDLING BTS.
IF YOU DON'T KNOW OR UNDERSTAND EVERY CONTEXT OF THE STORY *SHUTDAFAKUP
"ADOR CEO Min Hee-jin slams HYBE" did you watch the same conference as I did? She slammed herself in a terrible way 💀her attorneys were even advising her not to speak in certain occasions (about confidential stuff) and trying to help and she just interrupted them left and right... the woman thinks she's god's gift on earth even saying several times "There's no one like me in this industry.", well... I'm glad there isn't 💀 I just hope NewJeans can recover from this, because this woman is a gaslighting snake, shading fake tears on a press conference
They're just blindly biasing her for no reason even hybe think this conference isn't worth responding to lol☠️
@@jasbeerdhingra8875 they responded by saying she needs to resign right away though🫢
Both HYBE and MHJ are disgusting
@@top10epicrobloxmoments ikr
I was watching her live om MBC Channel. The funny thing is while the Attorney is talking, she interupted him then he stopped her from talking hahahaha
Did she have put options on hype? Some report said so and if it’s true, it’s a clear insider trading betting against the parent company.
"On April 25 KST, HYBE announced that the company will report CEO Min Hee-Jin of its subsidiary label ADOR to police for a breach of trust and other related allegations today.
HYBE secured substantial evidence to prove that Min deliberately led the plan to take over management control of the subsidiary, through the audit process. The evidence included detailed discussions that Min has ordered the ADOR management to find ways to pressure HYBE into ultimately selling ADOR’s shares. One of the audited parties submitted information assets to seize the management of ADOR and to attempt to contact external investors. The auditee also admitted to creating the documents to attack HYBE."
I read all the statement, she mostly pulled the victim card ..
Don’t be fooled…
She came looking like a suffering VICTIM ON PURPOSE! The way she is dressed and her demeanor is calculated to evoke sympathy AND empathy. She 100% should leave New Jeans (and their parents) out of the conversation, as they are mostly minors and of course they will be loyal to her - they are idols because of her guidance. You can’t take that away from her. But many of her statements and proclamations are again, calculated, and some are patently false or misleading. There’s a lot going on in this case. Watch some channels that are analyzing this case too. I don’t know if she is innocent of the charges or guilty, but I always feel some kind of way (suspicious) when people that are in positions of power and influence, suddenly try and make themselves appear as helpless, hapless victims when they are accused of some shady
or questionable behavior.
🤦🏻♂️ L take, watch her receiving an award and tell me again
@@Zero.Requiem well you’re right about that…apparently her personal style leans more towards unkempt teenager, than polished, professional CEO. But again, she IS making specific choices in how she presents herself to the public.
pls read: As a Korean who watch and understood the whole conference, min hee jin definitely showed her sincereness toward her group and how much she actually care about newjeans. For the foreigners who might not fully understood the conference, heres the abridgment.
1. When min hee jin first got out from SM, bang scouted her as a director of hybe’s first girl group, saying that he is not so confident with the girl group field.
2. After getting in to hybe min hee jin scouted current newjeans members by persuading that they are going to be the first girl group from hybe.
3. However, before newjeans’s debut, bang si hyuk suddenly ‘informed’ that hybe is going to postpone the debut of newjeans, since they are going to release le sserafim, directed by bang si hyuk. Min and the newjeans members’s parents were frustrated and got angry with the company’s reversal, because the title that hybe is going to release their first girl group meant a lot - public was paying much attention. Nevertheless, hybe enforced the debut of le sserafim and even privately noted min should not make any public relations of newjeans, because it might disperse all the attention from le sserafim. (And thats why newjeans suddenly came out from nowhere)
4. Min felt sorry for the newjeans members and tried to advance the debut, moreover she didn’t liked how bang interfered everything she does and that is the reasons why she created affiliated label ‘ador’
5. After all those incidents newjeans finally debuted, and got FIRE. Here, bang probably got envy of her artistic appreciation: he started to interrupt everything newjeans do. You can think about why newjeans never showed themselves on public airwaves, and why hybe never posts single newjeans’ shorts, promotions or pictures on their official youtube channel. Bang even wised up on Min by messages about the whole situation.(she showed obvious, physical evidences with everything she said.)
6. Recently, bang released the second girl group that he directed, illit. The general opinion with the group in korea was that their styles, songs, dances, and even the concept picture is to similar to those of newjeans. Min felt the same, and she appealed that mocking within the subsidiary companies won’t make anything better, it will only consume the uniqueness and industrializing girl groups will degrade the quality of the music market in korea. (Maybe this is the main point where Bang got pissed.)
7. Recently, le sserafim shitted, showed their poor performance in Coachella, k pop fans in Korea was very disappointed with it. And two days after le sserafims’s last performance, which was one day before newjeans’ official comeback, bang suddenly publicized his CONVICTION that Min tried overtake newjeans from hybe, without providing any actually valid evidence. The conversation in private messenger between min and ador’s vice president that bang asserts which motivated his conviction found out to be more like a wall in back (joke-like conversation) about bang who’s not supporting newjeans at all.
In korea, Hybe is already famous for maliciously instigating public opinion by hiring so called 댓글부대, that posts or leaves intentional comments everywhere. Even after reading all this, foreigners still might not understand why we all believe what min hee jin said. Its embaracing but if you ever experienced office life in Korea, you might agree that all these stories are quite far from her own fantasy, these things actually do happen in Korea. She also showed dozens of proofs that everything she said is true. Furthermore, not only the newjeans members but even their parents are with min’s side. From min’s instagram and newjeans’s official youtube channel, you can see how much min cares about members. 99 percent of the Public opinion in Korea already leaned toward min, we are not being emotional, if you can ever understand Korean language, understand gloomy korean society, you will also understand why we support min. She proceeded the conference with single bottle of water. Not having any script, she answered thousands of question without hesitation. She was not just sobbing or cursing out there for the whole time. Its true she had been a bit emotional, but everybody who watched the conference, even the reporters there changed their minds after that. Come on guys, koreans are not idiots, there’s reason why we support min
@@24kzumbagoldwithsaleemah32 yeah like i should believe you than an authentic korean. You who probably don't speak or understand a single korean word more less its culture.
L TAKE 🤦🏻♂️ WHEREVER YOU LOOK AT IT.
#freenewjeans #freeminheejin
You all really forgot that she leaked idols personal and medical information?
Proof???
And now this press conference is just a joke.Many was deceived by her lies.
I don’t trust her either . Only one side from her. Because hybe has also released their kakaotalk conversation and mhj did plan to make ador independent company and it shows other conversations as well.
Making ADOR an independent company is the actual accusations against her, but here she is throwing out a bunch of stuff about her her her. Should she not be looking towards saving herself for the legal battles? Her only concern seems to be the court of public opinion and being the only person who gets attention. She comes off as a narcissist who constantly pulls New Jeans out like they are her dolls.
@@it.comes.around exactly that’s the point. So glad you pointed this out.
I'm Korean. Before this conference, people all thought like you. But then she turned everything out 180 and majority people support her now. Maybe you just have to wait till her translated conference script come out.
@@user-to4iq4bq9g I already watched and this has nothing to do with you being Korean . She hold press conferences first and play victim then obviously she has more advantage. It’s just hard to trust her one side story please understand.
@@euniceshimray4680fue Hybe quien la acusó de varias cosas a través de los medios de comunicación, acaso Min Hee Jin no puede salir a defenderse de las acusaciones que hace Hybe? Además Hybe no ha mostrado pruebas de sus acusaciones
Hostile takeover its giving me and i m someone with finance background ....jail time ms min💀👍
Shit talking her bosses colleages was D U M B but after hearing what bang sihyuk and source ceo put her through i dont even blame her tbh. She really does sound batshit insane though
No she sounds honest and sincere. The batshit crazy ones are the politicians and businessmen with the stone cold faces or fake smiles who are actually pieces of shit behind the scenes.
MIN HEE JIN WHAT AN GREAT ACTRESS YOU ARE HUH ….
Someone plz put this lady behind bars
Am sorry but who the hell told her it's ok to dress up like she's about to go out and buy ramen at the convenience store?
How could you trust someone that doesn't seem to have integrity & respect? She seems to be a betrayal at a first place. Idk else abt these issues, but again it seems a way to discredit BSH and HYBE. Accusing & dragging evryone is makng it more worse. Involvng media on this conflict of interest is prob way to take advantage out of it.
Wow from all that I'm seeing to this point, now I'm assuming that Hybe disbanded Gfriend because they think they couldn't compete with other new gg, so therefore they debuted Lesserafim in Source music which can also gain more popularity because of the ex-members of izone. And that's why they debuted lesserafim before new jeans. I did wonder how they debuted out of nowhere when new jeans actually was the first ones to release their concept film. I could see that hybe only wants fame and attention and to get that they just create controversies about their artists.
This is just my assumption for now because idk what else might be revealed in the future and what's actually the truth.
아미들이 회사앞에 근조화환 보낸 이유가 다 있음. 쌓여왔던게 폭발한거..
회사가 잘못하면 매번 여론앞에 bts를 방패막이로 세웠다는거 팬들이라면 모를수가 없지
저번에 군대 관련으로 하이브 임원 박지원이 말실수한것도 진을 앞세워서 여론의 뭇매를 맞게 했던걸 생각하면..
탈 하이브하자^^
This drama is getting more complicated. Atleast lets hear her side first before jumping tha bandwagon.
All i need is for her not to mention BTS in her madness rant, thats where her lies start other than that she can say what she wants
she did not
Hype said that not her. They lied.
Then your an idiot, first Hybe said that and made it seem she said that. 2nd you base everything on bts not evidence? What if it turns out the company who handle bts is some creepy entity who uses idols? But since you don't want to look at the evidence properly and just base it if bts is affected or not, it my end up hurting bts for real. 😮💨
Where i can watch full video??!
I believe her 100%
Me too. She came with receipts and was 100% sincere. Instead of trying to be politically correct and say the right things, she revealed her whole self and seemed 100% genuine. It was really refreshing to watch.
I believe her 0%😅
@@misstuxbrandi Because you understood her 0% and have to rely on poorly translated English that misses the nuances of Korean Language 😅
Why did Lee Soo Man kick her out of SM?
@@Chris-qh5tz She has a very very direct way of speaking that is not considered "proper" for women in Korea's misogynistic society. But she was direct and forthcoming, and showed her emotions. I don't know how this will turn out, but I think time and history will vindicate her. Right now the hate is strong but when the dust settles people will realize the game Hybe played.
if hybe just take pledis and koz agency i think they dont have a problem poor bts the building they built now is to many issue and people make hybe a bad company
She literally brought his own end. Greed is a really bad thing.
Thanks to shaman 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@martakozak8547 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@martakozak8547fake news from hybe
She needs to go away so New Jeans can shine!
She is not New Jeans, New Jeans is New Jeans!
All those who were fooled by her acting will regret it soon enough .. Hybe knows exactly all the legalities they have to engage to deal with MHJ.. she is a traitor on board that needs to go asap👍👍👍
Их надо обоих уберать и менять систему
This hasi watched way too much kdrama😂 and also the cream that they put on their face it looks like they just came out of the gym sweaty and smelly
The Main - don’t let them know your next move 😂
Now I hope she go to jail cuz she also did black majic on bts💀 she thought she is the main character
That is not true It is Hybe’s media play to make publics hate on her
Crocodile tears
MHJ is a goner for sure. Perhaps she is somewhat right
MHJ was too gullible for trusting them...
My demon : begger
But ILLIT is so different from new jeans i don't know why some people think they are copying new jeans
ILLIT is cutesy. New jeans doesn't do "cute" like that.
Illit to me sounds familiar and their image when they debuted was similar too.
Bfr 💀 they r the exact same
it's not just concept. hair, makeup, clothes, choreography - they copied dance moves too.
pls read: As a Korean who watch and understood the whole conference, min hee jin definitely showed her sincereness toward her group and how much she actually care about newjeans. For the foreigners who might not fully understood the conference, heres the abridgment.
1. When min hee jin first got out from SM, bang scouted her as a director of hybe’s first girl group, saying that he is not so confident with the girl group field.
2. After getting in to hybe min hee jin scouted current newjeans members by persuading that they are going to be the first girl group from hybe.
3. However, before newjeans’s debut, bang si hyuk suddenly ‘informed’ that hybe is going to postpone the debut of newjeans, since they are going to release le sserafim, directed by bang si hyuk. Min and the newjeans members’s parents were frustrated and got angry with the company’s reversal, because the title that hybe is going to release their first girl group meant a lot - public was paying much attention. Nevertheless, hybe enforced the debut of le sserafim and even privately noted min should not make any public relations of newjeans, because it might disperse all the attention from le sserafim. (And thats why newjeans suddenly came out from nowhere)
4. Min felt sorry for the newjeans members and tried to advance the debut, moreover she didn’t liked how bang interfered everything she does and that is the reasons why she created affiliated label ‘ador’
5. After all those incidents newjeans finally debuted, and got FIRE. Here, bang probably got envy of her artistic appreciation: he started to interrupt everything newjeans do. You can think about why newjeans never showed themselves on public airwaves, and why hybe never posts single newjeans’ shorts, promotions or pictures on their official youtube channel. Bang even wised up on Min by messages about the whole situation.(she showed obvious, physical evidences with everything she said.)
6. Recently, bang released the second girl group that he directed, illit. The general opinion with the group in korea was that their styles, songs, dances, and even the concept picture is to similar to those of newjeans. Min felt the same, and she appealed that mocking within the subsidiary companies won’t make anything better, it will only consume the uniqueness and industrializing girl groups will degrade the quality of the music market in korea. (Maybe this is the main point where Bang got pissed.)
7. Recently, le sserafim shitted, showed their poor performance in Coachella, k pop fans in Korea was very disappointed with it. And two days after le sserafims’s last performance, which was one day before newjeans’ official comeback, bang suddenly publicized his CONVICTION that Min tried overtake newjeans from hybe, without providing any actually valid evidence. The conversation in private messenger between min and ador’s vice president that bang asserts which motivated his conviction found out to be more like a wall in back (joke-like conversation) about bang who’s not supporting newjeans at all.
In korea, Hybe is already famous for maliciously instigating public opinion by hiring so called 댓글부대, that posts or leaves intentional comments everywhere. Even after reading all this, foreigners still might not understand why we all believe what min hee jin said. Its embaracing but if you ever experienced office life in Korea, you might agree that all these stories are quite far from her own fantasy, these things actually do happen in Korea. She also showed dozens of proofs that everything she said is true. Furthermore, not only the newjeans members but even their parents are with min’s side. From min’s instagram and newjeans’s official youtube channel, you can see how much min cares about members. 99 percent of the Public opinion in Korea already leaned toward min, we are not being emotional, if you can ever understand Korean language, understand gloomy korean society, you will also understand why we support min. She proceeded the conference with single bottle of water. Not having any script, she answered thousands of question without hesitation. She was not just sobbing or cursing out there for the whole time. Its true she had been a bit emotional, but everybody who watched the conference, even the reporters there changed their minds after that. Come on guys, koreans are not idiots, there’s reason why we support min
How can we read what’s it’s on the screen with all the text from description Tf
민희진이 많이 안되 보인다.
약한자의 마지막 절규.
슬프다.
MIN DELULU!
I don’t think MHJ is all bad. She’s sincere toward NWJS members. Most the things Hype state about MHJ weren’t even true.. now everyone is hating her and that’s why she looked so frustrated
Does she really care for N J. No. She doesn't!! ONLY FOR THE MOMENT
She cares cause they are HER bank. All of you all saying these comments jumping on her bandwagon is halarious.So which company are your faves from? Also her crying cause Hybe expected her to do her job. Really. 1st They were not paying her pennies first of all. She was getting a great salary plus on top of that 18% of the company. Really that's her getting taken advantage of? Hell No!!! Not many companies do that. The fact that she was manipulating situations to gain something for HERSELF IS SHADY AS HELL! WHILE SHES OUT THERE DOING SHADY SHIT TO GAIN SOMETHING THAT WAS NOT HERS IS WRONG. THROWING accusations of being copied and giving out idols info. That's wrong!! Contacting a shaman to do what ever they do to get BTS OUT OF HER WAY IS FOR DAM SURE WRONG!!!! KNEW THEY HAD A SNAKE INSIDE THE COMPANY. ESPECIALLY ALL THE LEAKS OUT ON BTS. RM, JK, TAE , JM. ALL THE OOPS GOING ON. So bottom line facts... she was getting a hefty salary and shares OF 😮 the company to do her job. That's what Hybe was expecting from her. To do her job. Now her talking shit about BTS AND THE COMPNY. DOING SHADY THINGS TO MESS THINGS UP FOR THEM IS WRONG. NO EXCEPTIONS. NOW DOES THE COMPANY BELONG TO HER... ?NO. SHOULD IT? NO!! SHE WAS GETTING PAID GOOD TO DO HER JOB. THE FACTS SHOW WHAT SHE WAS DOING IS WRONG. ITS AGAINST THE LAW. ITS STEALING AND BEING MANIPULATING. WHO CAN TRUST SOMEONE LIKE THAT. NOW HOW IS A SUCCESSFUL COMPANY SUPPOSE TO ACT WHEN THEY HIRE SOMEONE AND HAS TO PUT THEIR TRUST IN THAT PERSON TO DO HER JOB AND THEN FIND OUT SHE WAS WORKING AGAINST THE COMPANY TO PRETTY MUCH STEAL FROM THE COMPANY. WHAT KIND OF COMPANY WOULD JUST ACT AND TREAT THE SITUATION LIKE ITS NO BIG DEAL. I WILL TELL YOU WHAT KIND... AN INCOMPETENT COMPANY AND HYBE IS NOT LIKE THAT. SO ALL YOU ANTIS OR HYBE HATING PEOPLE NEED TO LOOK AT THE BOTTOM LINE. HYBE IS TAKING CARE OF THEIR BUSINESS. I AM NOT SAYING THEY ARE PERFECT. I AM Suing they are doing what a successful company would do to protect what's theirs.
I disagree, why is she blasting NJ members reaching out privately and throwing them into all of this? Saying how all the members called her crying and are in her side etc? That’s not caring that’s selfish AF.
Remember, she left SM as well? There is something in her.
Sm을 나간건 민희진이 추구하는 결이 더이상 sm이 구축하려는 광야 컨셉이 안맞았기 때문에 퇴사를 결심한거고 실제로 sm은 그전에 민희진에게 사장직을 제안했다
Those stickers from bang shi hyuk😐. Was he in love like blindly in love with her????
Such things are very common in the entertainment industry. My sister is an actress and I too as a vocalist have seen these things very closely. Most of the people are into secret or casual relationship for business purpose. Only talent isn't enough, such agreements too are required to gain popularity.
@@mayu199SVTdo artists can get taken advantage in the process too? As I'm also trying my best to get in the industry
@@IllbeOkay-ij1yc Yes but they can take your advantage like they can do dirty things with you. But don't involve in this type of rubbish things it can harm your dignity. Do hardwork insted of involving in this type of things. It is easy process to enter industry but easy things don't last forever. Hard work may look time consuming but it will be very sweet so say no to this type of act❌
Thank you so much for this , I'm actually entering the industry cause since I was young people seemed so happy on the screen that I wanted to be happy too,. Does this thing exist in every industry, even in KPOP?
@@IllbeOkay-ij1yc You can be happy without joining the entertainment industry. You should focus on what you like to do, something you're passionate about and grow in it. These things are everywhere.
This woman is unhinged and delulu😅
😂😂
So Hype real girl group is ILLIT
Hybe are evil
HYBE IS EVIL
You need to know real info
@@AliAsghar-mz6fp I do Ali Punjabi
GET OUT NEWJEANS AND YOU IN HYBE NOW
Honey, that's what she want but hybe ain't letting NJ go😂
omg an illit fan lol
NJ never belonged to her. She worked with NJ cause that's what Hybe was paying her to do plus some shares of Ador on top of her salary. Do you all think she was ferrying paid pennies? No, of course not. She was getting paid to do her job that they hired her for!!
@@Mj-lz7onshe made newjeans - newjeans. she even scouted haerin by herself. she made the concept starting from their hair, makeup, clothes, shoes, background , mv location, sound, music, color, vibe, basically every thing. yall might say she doesnt but honey, trust me she partiCIPATES in all those stuff. she made the WORK. if hybe remove her, newjeans would be the same as any other girl group, with same ol’ girl crush concept. they cant remove her but they cant stand her either. she might be cray2 but damn she have TALENT!!!
Yeah but she won't be able to do all that without money and resources HYBE gave her. She should've just created her own label and brought NJ the first time if she wanted. Honestly, they are talented but without the marketing and resources, they wouldn't be that popular. There's a lot of groups more talented than them. Their music were also produced from hybe so even if the concept is great and how talented you are, the resources they got when they debuted really help out a lot in their popularity now. HYBE even put some members in PTD music videos before debut and heavily marketed them as bts dongsaeng the first time. @@Letmein111
why does she look like the god from my demon