yeah it next season got green lit so... we all know it would be big finally but left so much shit and made us wait for another year.... HBO... do nothing new at all...
I am shocked that you didn't address the warning from Solomon to Caleb... He legit said "I must warn you...." The Dolores hit the EMP. What was that warning about?!
Exactly what makes it great most of the time they just tell you something and your supposed to believe it here they use the real world to support there ideals in westworld
It's now obvious that Dolores chose Caleb, he wasn't a lucky accident she collapsed in front of in that tunnel, but this begs the question how did she find out about him to begin with?
Yeah I was thinking about this. First episode she was just pretending to be wounded so Caleb would help her... a few episode later she stands in front of him and takes some bullets for him and wasn’t hurt at all
@@deanrichardson1848 I don't think she was pretending, she was wounded in this episode as well. But it definitely was part of her plan to run into Caleb
Is it on the first man she killed? The one with the battered wife. Like he's a stockholder in Westworld I think? She might have known about Liam and Caleb on that mans file.
Remember that Caleb was using the Rico app to bring the drugs used to originally kill Dolores when they thought she was human. I think she chose him THEN when he gave them the injection to kill her.
Did anyone else get strong Jesse Pinkman vibes when Caleb was yelling at Solomon? Aaron Paul really knows how to bring out that passion, it eerily reminded me of Jesse yelling at Walt
I've gotten a Jesse Pinkman vibe all season. I feel like both shows are Aaron Paul playing Aaron Paul, which isn't necessarily a bad thing. Reminds me of many Jack Nicholson movies. I recently saw a TH-cam video of Aaron Paul showing off his home in the Idaho wilderness and he's pretty close to his characters in real life it seems. I like it.
Greg Roberts yea it sucks that ppl just remember him as Jesse immediately. He seems to mostly play himself just imaginative to fit the character he’s portraying. He’s a well rounded actor who’s getting better I hope he keeps getting these good roles on shows. And or movies too.
You mean Aaron Paul is literally Jesse Pinkman in everything. Even in his other shows like The Path which I think he helped create. He was just Jesse Pinkman. Aaron Paul isn’t an actor I like because he is just the same in everything. It could be the roles but when ever I see him he’s just gonna be “the damaged anti-hero”
I had such high hopes for this episode because Evan said episode 7 was her favorite even though I thought episode 6 was better. I’m still looking forward to that bomb season finale though!!
Yeah I don't know why they didn't learn anything from Game of Thrones but they've done a far better job with the shorter season than B&W did. It seems they are taking after other shows that have done 8 episode seasons before like The Last Kingdom or Peaky Blinders. Though Peaky Blinders has suffered from only having 6 episode seasons and could really use a lot more room to breathe. Stil 10 episode seasons seem to be the perfect count for a show as once you start going past that you start getting a lot of filler in episodes or whole filler episodes. Also there is zero excuse for a show being 22 episodes in this day and age other than tradition and I've cut those out of my life cause nobody has time for that.
Not perfect, he missed the part when Solomon was going to tell Caleb about Dolores real plan, just before he shutted down everyone. But It was a damn good analysis. I missed the tampered data.
What if there are humans that exists in those chambers look exactly like the hosts we saw in Westworld. Which means the likeness of the hosts are modeled after real humans. That'll be a cool way to bring some of the actors back.
No Arnold saw the host ass his children so I doubt that but I they do have those human copies they just gotta figure out how tho get them out of the loop I think you need a host brain for process power seeing as humans have a problem processing all there memories at once like James Delos getting stuck on that loop
The most important phrase said in the last episode was from Solomon. He said: "if this is indeed now, and if we are indeed here". This is followed by a smile from Dolores. I might be mistaken, but it seems we might be looking at a simulation this whole season or two independent timelines. Seven days to find out. Couting.
Dolores does not lie to Caleb. Her kind is extinct. Having the means to create hosts is not the same as having created hosts. Also you totally missed the part before Dolores triggers the EMP. Solomon clearly transfers something to her. You can hear machine noice and then her eyes flutter like she got new data uploaded. You can see her face turn to determined acceptance and then she hits the EMP button.
Great point about the EMP! I didn't catch that. I thought the line about them being extinct was weird, since we know that at a minimum there are five (four?) copies of Delores, Maeve, and Maeve's two helpers still running around in the world.
I really feel like people think that Maeve is the good one only because she got more "personal" background than Dolores. Like, we all value family and stuff and seeing her care about daughter makes us believe that she is the only right and good here. But as Dolores said she is just as ruthless. Worse, she is also narrow-minded. She can't see bigger picture and helps Serac, who is obviously isn't interested in keeping his promise to her and letting her daughter (and all hosts for that matter) live. She is furious at Dolores for killing Hector, while working with Halores, the one who actually did this. She knows her daughter is fake after all, but continues going after her even knowing that she has a new mother (what she is even planning to do? Erase her and take her place? Share custody?). It's really feels like while having a lot of balance breaking abilities she is still doesn't have her own consciousness fully evolved and just running accordingly to her maybe more advanced, but still script. She isn't a power on her own, and isn't on a "good side of force". I think she is just lost and used by real players all over again.
@@antedote1 but I'm not talking about Dolores here. I'm talking about how Maeve isn't some kind of ultimate hero with all her decisions being right. What Dolores wants is still unclear, but she sure as hell does see the bigger picture and has purpose for which she moves actually using her intelligence. That purpose and ways in which she pursuing it being potentially harmful for human kind might be seen as bad for human, but is the only chance for hosts to survive. Dolores is far from being "good one" but her actions are still will have better outcome for ones she cares about, hosts (and maybe human kind too, after all, that's only Bernard who doesn't understand anything from what is going on in this season and Serac, who thinks that she wants kill everyone). While Maeve only will get her daughter and herself killed at this rate.
@@tameriz1280 Youre missing that point that Arnold made.. her plan isnt to destroy humanity herself, she's gonna let Caleb take care of that. She still has that poetic narrative. That's why she offered Haloress and all the other copies up to their own deaths.. Survival.. Which also is being shown Serac cant get in front of.. organized chaos..
@@antedote1 I mean, what Bernard said isn't necessary ultimate truth. At this point he can only assume. From his point of view this is the most obvious outcome. We don't know what Dolores thinks yet. Maybe she really wants to destroy humanity with Caleb's hands. Maybe she wants free them even at the cost of great loss. Remember previous episode, where he asked her, what if some people don't need freedom. She said that they deserve it anyway. Dolores have her own moral compass that can be very bizzare to someone else
@@tameriz1280 Like Jesus persay, given the obvious biblical references, she will sacrfice herself for the common good, believing she is a god.. but Bernard has laid more truth throughout than Dolores has this season.. He's been the control to the experiment.. He is purposely created to be her balance.. She's not concerned about the benefit for her personally, its the survival of the fittest.. that's evolutionary narrative being lost
What real metamorphosis for William (/s)! He has gone from killing all hosts so hard it bored him to insanity to now.... Killing all hosts so hard with renewed enthusiasm! (and a white jumper) No wonder Ed Harris is less than enthused with his arc lately.
When a saw the interview I was afraid he became a human Dolores who tried to make amand of his acts and save the hosts (it would be so disappointing) but now, I'm happy. He's just the same guy, who is more happy to do what he knows better: killing hosts!
I did like how they seemingly tied some things up nicely with William's story. We weren't always sure what state William was in. He was always searching to discover his true self. He couldn't reconcile the man he saw in some of his memories with his family and being a benefactor in his memories and the evil he did in the park. It would make sense now that he was discovered to be in these re-education centers that he would have his memories changed/scrambled and he wandered around the park all that time in his own loop trying to reach the center just like the hosts.
God I really hope Dolores wins next week and Maeve either dies or is knocked down a few pegs. She’s kind of out of control and her motivations make absolutely no sense at all
Dhruba js have you guys not seen the first few episodes?? Serac owns Maeve and can preprogram her, kill her, send her back to a scarier westworld or anything so what choice does she have. You’re acting like she came into the real world and her first thought was “okay Dolores time to die” Maeve specifically told Serac in ep 1 what makes him think that she’ll kill Dolores and we don’t know what code Maeve has now
@@Irmagerdd but it looks like she does what she do to save her Daughter (or something like that) but the man who "has" her daughter is Dolores, not Serac. So I'm confused too about her motives. But I like the actress. She had something special in the show. Where Dolores is flawless and an ice queen, Maeve lokks more human.
Tim P but Serac is still the villain and not Dolores. If Serac has a way to control Maeve’s body there’s still a way. Personally, if I was Maeve I would pretended to side with Serac, then team up with Dolores instead and tell her to cut out my pearl and remake me in my body without all of Serac’s changes. Beat Serac and join my daughter if that’s really what I want, or work with Dolores to create a new world
awesome breakdown as always. That was a crazy action packed episode with some pretty brutal fight scenes. WOW. Sad to know only 1 ep. left for this season. keep up the great work
true but I still think it's better than most of what we watch and we don't give a second thought about it. there are so many very predictable ending in some shows, it's not even enjoyable to watch.
I didn't quite get Caleb's storyline. Was he sent off to that facility for them to change his memories AFTER he killed Francis? If so, why did Whitman imply that Caleb was already brainwashed in that facility? If it wast't for Whitman's line "By midnight I'll be landfill or headed down for a long cold nap in Sonora. The same place they reeducated you? Not that you'd remember" I would've thought the succession of events was: Caleb becomes an outliner --> sent off to war --> did a great job, wasn't a threat anymore --> used by the system to execute other outliners --> Francis incident --> Caleb brainwashed in Sonora --> present day. Which is the correct sequence?
For me this was the best episode of the season. Finally tied some story lines together. I'm glad to see more of the "Man in Black/White". I think Ed Harris really brings out the vibe of WW. Also nice to see Mave win one or almost against Delores.
I'm really enjoying this season, but there are a couple of issues I can't get past. 1) Why would Charlotte turn against Deloris? 2) Why would Mauve put all of her trust is Serac?
Both Charlotte and Maeve are driven by emotions. Both have something to protect, until Hale's "family" and Maeve's BF died. Both wanting revenge for different reasons. Maeve helping Serac was just based off convenience and being held hostage. Charlotte prolly wants to kill both parties. One for betrayal and one for revenge.
@Katy Noah, but it was Serac's men who blew up the car with her family in it. So for her to turn against Deloris for that just doesn't make any sense to me. If anything, the death of her family should have turned her vengeance against Serac, and made her allegiance to Deloris stronger than ever.
@Nicholas, So they have evolved consciousness, but they have not obtained the ability to reason and think critically to "win the game"? Serac is the one reasonable for the death of Charlotte's family, not Deloris. Serac would have killed them no matter what Deloris would have ordered Charolotte to do. Maeve knows every crooked betrayal Serac has ever commited, yet she still does his bidding because he "promised" her a life with her daughter in virtual heaven? His promises are worthless and she knows this. No, I can't get past this. The logical thing to do is team up with Deloris to kill Serac and work out the rest later.
@@lagaman11 evolved yes, but not fully evolved. Don't forget with every human interaction they're finding new things about themselves. Like the Charlotte's episode. She told Dolores that OG Charlotte was taking over, aka she was becoming her original self. As for Maeve she's being held hostage. Don't forget that she's AI at heart, meaning it's hard for her to see things past black and white. She's so logical that she couldn't see things in-between. It's binary to a fault. Remember too that Serac is a few steps ahead of her, hologram (for protection), remotely freeze her, as well as the planted explosives at the back of their neck. These are on top of promising her "daughter"
Dude you missed reference from person of interest another series directed by Jonathan Nolan... They use term "Command" doesn't want us to talk to him, first time.. Secondly Whitman is an Russian mob in that series called Elias.. Hope others found references as me
when he met Maeve in his house. he pushed the button to stop her from stabbing him and then he picked the knife from her hand and put it on the table. obviously when he was in his plane when the office blew up and killed the girl. her hologram glitched. he was really in the plane because why would an hologram be traveling like that? he's real and still alive at this date, just very paranoiac and mistrusting of everybody (for good reasons apparently) but yeah he really loves his holograms.
He killed that guy in Bernards house while Maeve was there. I don't think that holograms can shoot real guns, so that seems like at least one instance.
Can someone explain to me. Why on earth Maeve siding with Serac? All i that I can see is she is selfish and just want to reunite with her daughter at all cost. Dolores wants war and revolution, YEAH, but it comes with saving the very future of her OWN daughter. Serac is the the threat, we all can see that, Or she is just upset because she killed her friend. That same friends was killed multiple times for her sake 😑😑 Not to mention Dolores holds all the cards, and has the key to the sublime
She also works with the very person who killed her Hector, to take down the only person who is *actually* interested in saving hosts, not exterminating them for being too chaotic like Serac (for ffs, he is killing people for being outliers, hosts won't have any mercy from this man). She literally doesn't make any sense in this season. I hope she was just reprogrammed by Serac or something
@@jesse590 yeah, that why i said, she is selfish, even risking her own daughter's safety with helping serac. He iced his own brother and countless humans and hosts. He wont even blink to before killing maeve and her daughter if she dont have any use to him
I am shocked that you didn't address the warning from Solomon to Caleb... He legit said "I must warn you...." Then Dolores hit the EMP. What was that warning about?!
that's probably a warning for what's gonna happen in the last episode if the plan succeed. like Caleb gonna have to die at the end or sacrifice himself for the plan to be successful.
Dolores' quest is to destroy evil from the world. That means killing a lot of rich assholes and destroy the incite AIs that control the world. The latter would screw with most of society and probably lead to a lot of bad before the good.
The fight scenes this season have mostly been disappointing in my opinion. Both the big helicopter drone and the sniper rifle missed way more than they should. A computer controlled weapon wouldn't miss unless the target moved as it was firing, but several times Dolores was made aware she was being targeted because the computer missed, which them prompted her to move. If we have watched the whole scene from the helicopter or the sniper drone, it would be obvious. What makes a fight/action scene bad, is too many jump cuts (count the number of cuts in the knife/sword scene), confusion of where all the actors are in relation to one another (in my mind it seemed like the drones would easily been able to spot their target), and actors that don't have a lot of experience with action/fight scenes. I mean... compare it to any old Hong Kong action movie and you will see what good fight scenes should look like. I guess I should provide an example. While I don't mean that this scene is in any way similar, it's still a good example of less jump cuts, more competent action, and very clear what's going on - Michelle Yeoh vs Zhang Ziyi (Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon): th-cam.com/video/yf2gMoHEFME/w-d-xo.html
How the hell was Caleb's virtual assistant not effected by the massive EMP that just went off? Unless that was just an audio flash forward inserted into that scene
My question is why did Caleb act all matter of fact after Delores finally revealed that she was a Host? It didn't seem to phase him one bit. That annoyed me to be honest.
The clue is in the schizophrenia. Two personalities in one. In the beginning we only see boy Serac. Later his brother Jean Mi enters the story. Jean Mi is the elder, also the one damaged by the radiation. He has a psychotic break and his alter ego Serac gains the upper hand. There is no brother. Jean Mi and Serac are elements of the same person, a person who is put on ice so the body can survive. But the consciousness of Jean Mi/Serac has been uploaded. In Rehoboam, Serac's mind is the one that appears dominant. Serac as a human does not exist. He is only a series of holograms. He is is also deluded about his own nature. He thinks he is real and has agency yet is contained in an aircraft that stays perpetually in the sky, but this is just a simulation the Serac element of Jean Mi's uploaded mind lives in. Meanwhile the Jean Mi element of that same mind is confined to the system in Sonora. Even in Sonora the hologram of Serac says that he doesn't exist in this form anymore.
@@JamesThomson09 assuming that every or any scene we see him in is real. My theory is not without holes and it's probably not true but it's a fun way to think about it
@@marcdefaoite That's true tho, if these were all simulations Serac could very well be something else. I think that it's possible we've seen simulations, but not all of them were. So that's why I still think Serac is real.
I don't think Delores thought to use the EMP till she got her arm blown off and and she really had no other option. My point was that the video said Delores and Solomon were similar in that they were both designed with fatal failsafes to keep them under control. Solomon wasn't designed with an EMP inside it, they just put one in the warehouse.
Why did Charlotte turn to Serac? Wasn't it Serac blowing her and her family up last ep? At least thats what everyone was thinking. So was it Dolores instead?
I think it's because Dolores could have helped her to save her family. Serac killed them because he had no choice, hale betrayed him. Dolores on the other hand had a choice, she refused and so hale is angry at her.
Serac does have a choice too not to kill Char and her family. It's even told by the guards that they need Char alive that's why they didn't shoot her back at Delos, or maybe they're just incompetent guards knowing its a host and won't die, but still didn't shoot her to at least immobilize her, that they end up getting smashed by bumblebee instead. Though if Serac os the bomber, he knew Char's pearl won't get roasted that's why he did it to show Char his capabilities. Though if Dolores is the bomber, then it could be to teach Charlotte a lesson not to attach herself to humans. But it would contradict Dolores' intention of freeing humans from their loops that makes me wonder, does she want humans and hosts to co-exist?
@@Lionspel Serac and Hale were already on opposite sides of the battlefield. Dolores is on the same side of hale, but still refused to help her. You can't blame your enemy, when both of you are at war. Mutual collateral damage is assured. Tell me, how would you feel when your ally cares nothing about what you want. Dolores could have helped to save them. In Hales eyes, Dolores is responsible. I think Evan Rachel wood already confirmed it was seracs men who blew up the car in her twitter.
Thank you for sharing! I wish you had mentioned a key plot in this episode - the future scenario that Dolores told Solomon to plot out. I’ve been on the fence about what her true goal was and I think she reveals it in this episode.
William's robot insults remind me of the original Lost in Space, where Dr, Smith would always verbally abuse the Robinson's robot. I think "bubble-headed boobie" was the best. Almost as good as William's "can opener" quip :)
I just think the one Caleb thinks its Francis talking to him in episode 1, but it seems parallel to the hosts hearing voice they thought it was Arnold, but it was their own. So it could be Caleb's own coscience and voice.
How is it that Ford wasn't recognized as an outlier? The current chaos of the world, a threat to Serac's core ideals, is a direct ramification of Ford's choices (as well as Arnold's).
well it just came out a day ago, the guy doing this analysis watched it has it aired and did this video directly after. I watch the episode and come here right after every time to see it. I don't see what's strange about it.
Also, at the end you see Delores' eyes flicker. This means she was backed up to the data drive Caleb has. As soon as the backup was complete, she hit the EMP.
I'm a little confused as to why Seroc getting that encryption key would save his brother. Isn't that only guest data (that apparently William had already sold to him years ago anyway?)? How would that help any of the people on ice? If anything, wouldn't it just confirm their U category if they went to Westworld? I'm lost on this point.
So I have a theory. All the host in the parks are modeled from humans, maybe all the outliers kept in storage. All the hosts we have ever seen in the show were copies of real people, like bernard was from Arnold....Im really looking forward to the reveal of Delores last host copy and what that host has been doing this whole time.
I always noticed the circle as well. Sort of reminds me of the Vitruvian Man by Davinci that sought out the ideal proportions for man (Basically humans down to a science in 1400-1500’s). Could be that the host in circle is representative of getting humanity down to a science in the form of AI - and now Ciroc is alosmgetting humanity down to a science in the form of Rehoboam and the “realignment” of the outliers.
I noted that both Delores and Maeve are now in all black; and William is once again the Man in White. I don't know if I'm reading too much into the following; but in the adds, as the phrase "Free Will is Not Free"is flashing on the screen- right when the word (or name) Will is presented William is shown. It could be being said both metaphorically and literally.
When she referred to the person that Dolores brought out the darkness in, I thought she was talking about Teddy. I think that fits more since it was Dolores's direct manipulation that changed Teddy's -literal- programming. With William, we are told it was there all along and it was the park being an outlet. It doesn't seem like Dolores had any active agency in that, unlike with Teddy and Caleb.
Both shockingly inaccurate all of a sudden too during their face off. Sloppy writing. Westworld has always had poorly written action sequences unfortunately.
Passed pawn is a chess term. It means a pawn that no longer has other pawns inhibiting it from advancing to the eighth rank where it can be turned in for another more powerful piece. It's a way of describing how Caleb thought he was a nobody, a pawn, but Deloris believes he has a much bigger role to play. If he can reach the end of this path, he can become a major piece in the game. Also, not a big deal, but a quad copter would have four props. Maive's only had two that I could see. Finally, I couldn't agree more, cannot wait for the season finale!!!!
That body you're talking about at the end of the video isn't an exoskeleton. Exoskeletons is an extra skeleton like structure layered over the outside of your body, for example to make you able to lift more weight or do other things your body isn't capable of. Considering she is sliding flesh over the structure means it's "inside" her body. So it's just a "normal" or endoskeleton.
it's the previous models for the hosts from 30years ago when they weren't able yet to make them look like humans inside. but yeah exo isn't the exact term.
Did Caleb have a metal plate at his head? Cos, if he does, i think this could save him from Serac in the scene where he points a gun to Caleb's head... but im not sure if he have it or not.
OBSERVATION>>> Body of brother is in a machine like the Host... Caleb is still a version of his brother in host/human hybrid form. Thus reason the computer identified him... First Outlier he found was his brother... Zurok is probably in a stasis coffin and attached to Hobola thing and has a host/human hybrid body as well. He touches and picks things up....
All of this drama could have been avoided if everyone had just listened to Stubbs back in season 1 about the robots rebelling. Stubbs was right all along. He is the true unsung hero of the story, having to deal with everyone else's stupid shenanigans while they ignore everything he's warned them about.
Strange amount of haters this show has. They like to complain about it why not abandon it? Personally I love a show that doesn't spell everything out for me and leaves me pondering where it is going.
Was Caleb reconditioned twice? Once the first reconditioning where he came out as outlier hunter. 2nd after Francis died, to give him false memory. If yes then what was first AR therapy? If no, and if 1st AR therapy was with Dr. Greene, then why he was fed with false memories even if francis was alive
Maeve and Delores are going to team up. They have been playing Serac all alone. Solomon is the first A.I or Beta version and Reaboam is the ultimate version of Serac's AI. Solomon had issues which Serac thought would be fixed by improvising the Westworld data. This can be seen with the first generation of outliers, which Caleb belongs to. Serac was disappointment-ed with Caleb's decision to turn his back on Insight or his friend Francis. Thus, he thought Solomon needed some adjustments. Which he managed to fix with Reaboam version. That data was already transmitted by Hale in season two and was successfully used in Reaboam. After discovering all these events, Delores and Maeve decided to move against Serac. As this would be what their creator Ford would have wanted or programmed them, in case of any breach. Maeve once managed to escape Westworld and thus proved to be a better ally for Delores. Hence, Bernard programmed them to go against Serac. It could be possible the human Bernard or Ford might be still alive. At the start of this season the creators mentioned that Anthony Hopkins and Marsden might make cameo or return in this season.
@@isham2044 but still, it doesnt make sense why delores would be mad at herself after Serac killed her family. It just doesnt add up. Maeve from the start just started beefing with delores because Serac told her to?
@@MiamayaJones In episode 6, it clearly said that Serac need Hale alive. Hale heard it. So I think, when her car were ambushed, she knew (or assumed) it couldn't be Serac who did it, and Dolores said before that they were not her real family, she blame her for that. Or maybe, Serac actually did it, but he put an idea to Hale that it was Dolores who did it to make her rebel against Dolores. But yeah, it actually pretty dumb to make Hale fight Dolores
@@MiamayaJones Serac has her mentally held hostage. That's why she does his bidding. Of course she will eventually turn against him. Quite Obvious actually.
I like these breakdown videos bro, but actually hate when you're speaking about the next episode previews and making fairly onpoint predictions from what you've seen, as I tend to skip these for spoiler reasons.
"Hence why" is not a grammatical construction in English. You can say, "...which is why Maeve is using a samurai sword," or "...hence, Maeve's use of a samurai sword."
that would be an impossible coincidence that she met him before knowing he was one of the ten successful reprogrammed candidate. but in the second episode she asks him his name and then wonder what becoming of him before saving him on the construction site. the way the episode was made, it really 100% looked like she had no idea who he was but took a liking to him for the choices he made, and then learned more about him. because the Rico app game him the job ordered by Liam's bodyguard to get rid of Dolores. he walked away and came back. it's not like Dolores could have predicted that exact behavior for Caleb at that moment so she could collapse in his arm to trick him so he would help her. maybe it's just a plot inconsistency.
(1) Is there any reason Solomon was left running after it was replaced? Did Serac think of it as a living being -- as a version of his brother -- and couldn't stand to kill it, merely imprison it? But why keep feeding it data about the outside world (which it must have to update the plan)? Has it been working on a way to heal Jean Mi and needed to be kept fully active for that? (2) You call it a quadcopter; HBO's captions call it a quadcopter. Am I missing something? Does a quadcopter not by definition have FOUR rotors, and does Maeve's copter not have two? (3) Are we sure Maeve meant William? If William got control of his inner darkness after his childhood but the park reactivated it, was that Dolores' fault? I'd say Teddy's alteration was the one to blame on Dolores.
Unfortunately, I can't deal with this season. What does the story has to do with the previous seasons of Westworld and how should it continue? More supernatural technology, even further in the future? So far it was a story about people and identities, now it is a story about technology.
The previous seasons serve as parallels of themes and morals (the idea of free will). We believe we do but we are all just like hosts. We have a story written for us by a higher being (God, Deity, etc). This season shows a future where technology has advanced enough to create this "God." Previous seasons set up for this final act. The stories helps us relate to the hosts, and compare them to humanity. Where in this future humanity has fully absorbed Rehobram into their lives. Humanity has let go of free will and let technology make decisions for them. Versus hosts who end up resembling what makes humans = humans -- freedom (Dolores), love (Maeve), and family (Charlores).
@@Riceboy325 This is the aweful LOST storytelling way. You have something mysterious going on and suddenly you are left with Jacob and the Man in Black who fight against each other. Where individual motivations and stories are replaced with something completely new that makes previous seasons (or the previous story) completely irrelevant. Do I care the F about Caleb? Hell no, why should I do? I care about Dolores, William, Bernard, etc. But I guess that's "subverting our expectations"... Season 3 could be a completely different series (Otherworld or A View into the future of humanity, etc.), all characters from season 1 and 2 play sideroles to give the audience some kind of connection to Westworld. If they were not in season 3, it would make no difference for the story. Whether they are hosts or people or anyone else doesn't matter to the story at all.
@@kayom2000 I understand what you are saying all the way around....I have continued to watch because I like the actors and the original premise of the story....but it seems to stray and stray and almost step on itself....I remember watching this episode and exposition just came and came from all the characters in every other scene spliced together with some over spliced fight scenes....but really just thinking this story has so out thought itself that it is having to spend the penultimate episode of the season telling its viewers what is really going in this story and try to explain why every character is acting as they are but the characters and their motivations are so twisted that they make no sense and I am failing to care...
How does anyone know what Solomon revealed being as you could not hear it. Who the frak decided to record that voice 5 times fainter than every other voice in the episode? Where the hell is QC?
Caleb and William don’t have the same exact id. William has a “1” in the middle while Calb has an “I” in the middle. A subbtle difference. I think the Nolans are playing us ;-)
I thought the turned a young man line was about Teddy. I guess that gets into the Nature vs Nurture argument of West World. Did Delores turn the man in black or did he do that himself. Delores Turned Teddy twice, both times seemed to conflict against his actual nature, and he always seemed pretty young, or naive rather
1 more episode until the finale! Thanks everyone who has watched along the way. Make sure to leave a comment on your thoughts and theories below :)
yeah it next season got green lit so... we all know it would be big finally but left so much shit and made us wait for another year.... HBO... do nothing new at all...
Now with the EMP does that mean all those outliers o ice are dead?
I am shocked that you didn't address the warning from Solomon to Caleb... He legit said "I must warn you...." The Dolores hit the EMP. What was that warning about?!
I thought their would be 10 episodes like the other seasons?....
JaeLUXE I think the warning was that he will lead the uprising/revolution but he will die in the process... Hence the suicide scene we keep seeing...
Caleb is basically the Teddy Delores wanted all along.
I loved it when William said ‘Shut up, can-opener’ when he found out Stubbs was a host. Lol 😂
Best line of the episode
BSG: Cylons are toasters.
Ww: Hosts are can openers.
what is a can opener?
@@AbinashAdhikari what is a can opener?
Fuck you Ford
I thought your opening was an ad, and i thought my youtube crashed, because I was UNABLE to find the the "SKIP ADD" button
Zikri ikr! Love that opening. And that can opener line made me lol.
used you head... it just mean he fucking with us...
SAME!! 😂😂
Same lol
LOL me too. I needed that laugh!
I can forgive them for taking too long to bring a season. The detail is insane in this show.
Exactly what makes it great most of the time they just tell you something and your supposed to believe it here they use the real world to support there ideals in westworld
I have been engaged by every single episode this season, I know it's not everyone's favorite, but god damn, I love the whole of WW so far.
Me too
Same
Absolutely fantastic
Digitalbarrito yeah I don’t get the hate. Thought this was a well made and innovative season. Only minus is Maave’s storyline.
me too!
It's now obvious that Dolores chose Caleb, he wasn't a lucky accident she collapsed in front of in that tunnel, but this begs the question how did she find out about him to begin with?
Yeah I was thinking about this. First episode she was just pretending to be wounded so Caleb would help her... a few episode later she stands in front of him and takes some bullets for him and wasn’t hurt at all
@@deanrichardson1848 I don't think she was pretending, she was wounded in this episode as well. But it definitely was part of her plan to run into Caleb
Is it on the first man she killed? The one with the battered wife. Like he's a stockholder in Westworld I think? She might have known about Liam and Caleb on that mans file.
doesn't dolores have all the data plus encryption key?
Remember that Caleb was using the Rico app to bring the drugs used to originally kill Dolores when they thought she was human. I think she chose him THEN when he gave them the injection to kill her.
At the end right before the EMP goes off, Solomon says "but I must warn you.." then the EMP goes off. I wonder what he was going to warn him about?
Did anyone else get strong Jesse Pinkman vibes when Caleb was yelling at Solomon? Aaron Paul really knows how to bring out that passion, it eerily reminded me of Jesse yelling at Walt
I've gotten a Jesse Pinkman vibe all season. I feel like both shows are Aaron Paul playing Aaron Paul, which isn't necessarily a bad thing. Reminds me of many Jack Nicholson movies. I recently saw a TH-cam video of Aaron Paul showing off his home in the Idaho wilderness and he's pretty close to his characters in real life it seems. I like it.
Greg Roberts yea it sucks that ppl just remember him as Jesse immediately. He seems to mostly play himself just imaginative to fit the character he’s portraying. He’s a well rounded actor who’s getting better I hope he keeps getting these good roles on shows. And or movies too.
You mean Aaron Paul is literally Jesse Pinkman in everything. Even in his other shows like The Path which I think he helped create. He was just Jesse Pinkman. Aaron Paul isn’t an actor I like because he is just the same in everything. It could be the roles but when ever I see him he’s just gonna be “the damaged anti-hero”
Yeah hopefully we get at least one "BITCH" this season
@@jubei4680 ROBOTS BITCH
I had such high hopes for this episode because Evan said episode 7 was her favorite even though I thought episode 6 was better. I’m still looking forward to that bomb season finale though!!
Episode 6 and 7 were like the worst episodes this season
She might have said cuz of fight with thandie
Episode7 has been my best
Perfect analysis as always sucks this new season is so short.
Peter Paj 👍🏾👍🏾
Some of the storylines could have used their own episode and it is way too rushed.
Yeah I don't know why they didn't learn anything from Game of Thrones but they've done a far better job with the shorter season than B&W did. It seems they are taking after other shows that have done 8 episode seasons before like The Last Kingdom or Peaky Blinders. Though Peaky Blinders has suffered from only having 6 episode seasons and could really use a lot more room to breathe. Stil 10 episode seasons seem to be the perfect count for a show as once you start going past that you start getting a lot of filler in episodes or whole filler episodes.
Also there is zero excuse for a show being 22 episodes in this day and age other than tradition and I've cut those out of my life cause nobody has time for that.
billy Crawford yeah true statement here.
Not perfect, he missed the part when Solomon was going to tell Caleb about Dolores real plan, just before he shutted down everyone. But It was a damn good analysis. I missed the tampered data.
What if there are humans that exists in those chambers look exactly like the hosts we saw in Westworld. Which means the likeness of the hosts are modeled after real humans. That'll be a cool way to bring some of the actors back.
Hopefully Hector and Armstice can make appearances again this way
And Angela too
That would be cool. I was freaked out that they keep the “undesirables” in those pods, that they exist in a therapy state. Why not just kill them?
Like Never Let Me Go? I'd love that!
No Arnold saw the host ass his children so I doubt that but I they do have those human copies they just gotta figure out how tho get them out of the loop I think you need a host brain for process power seeing as humans have a problem processing all there memories at once like James Delos getting stuck on that loop
The most important phrase said in the last episode was from Solomon. He said: "if this is indeed now, and if we are indeed here". This is followed by a smile from Dolores. I might be mistaken, but it seems we might be looking at a simulation this whole season or two independent timelines. Seven days to find out. Couting.
Inácio Pestana you’ve literally copy pasted this comment across so many videos. Get your shit together
The timeline thing has been done in the past 2 seasons. Would they stoop so low again?
Simulation is a cop out!
@@ouranos0101 yeah man i know right, ive seen this guy post this same comments on videos that aren't even westworld related! What a weird fucker
That line and she grins ever so little... So its obvious its part of a simulation and she knows it
Dolores does not lie to Caleb. Her kind is extinct. Having the means to create hosts is not the same as having created hosts.
Also you totally missed the part before Dolores triggers the EMP. Solomon clearly transfers something to her. You can hear machine noice and then her eyes flutter like she got new data uploaded. You can see her face turn to determined acceptance and then she hits the EMP button.
Yeah I knew something was up with the way she looked at Solomon before pressing the EMP.
Great point about the EMP! I didn't catch that.
I thought the line about them being extinct was weird, since we know that at a minimum there are five (four?) copies of Delores, Maeve, and Maeve's two helpers still running around in the world.
@@joefox9875 I think her exact words were "My kind is all but extinct...." so that is not quite as definitively extinct 😅
Solomon downloaded himself into Dolores...
Ummmmmmh ;)
@@earnyourimmortality I had that thought too, but considering how much data Solomon would have ....I doubt it would work in a matter of 2 seconds.
It seems like the whole "Dolores taking over the world" thingy is a scenario written by Ford for William.
Delos and insight two different companies like Facebook and google
Why do people like Dolores when she destroy humanity? I'm on the humans side
@Terrence Bullock You've got the point. That's what I should want to know. Let's see. But need to destroy all the hosts. That's why I like William
i don't understand how you get the reviews with all the details and references up so quickly. amazing.
I really feel like people think that Maeve is the good one only because she got more "personal" background than Dolores. Like, we all value family and stuff and seeing her care about daughter makes us believe that she is the only right and good here. But as Dolores said she is just as ruthless. Worse, she is also narrow-minded. She can't see bigger picture and helps Serac, who is obviously isn't interested in keeping his promise to her and letting her daughter (and all hosts for that matter) live. She is furious at Dolores for killing Hector, while working with Halores, the one who actually did this. She knows her daughter is fake after all, but continues going after her even knowing that she has a new mother (what she is even planning to do? Erase her and take her place? Share custody?). It's really feels like while having a lot of balance breaking abilities she is still doesn't have her own consciousness fully evolved and just running accordingly to her maybe more advanced, but still script.
She isn't a power on her own, and isn't on a "good side of force". I think she is just lost and used by real players all over again.
You mean, just like Dolores isnt intent on helping Caleb in the end either? The classic arc of duality..
@@antedote1 but I'm not talking about Dolores here. I'm talking about how Maeve isn't some kind of ultimate hero with all her decisions being right. What Dolores wants is still unclear, but she sure as hell does see the bigger picture and has purpose for which she moves actually using her intelligence. That purpose and ways in which she pursuing it being potentially harmful for human kind might be seen as bad for human, but is the only chance for hosts to survive. Dolores is far from being "good one" but her actions are still will have better outcome for ones she cares about, hosts (and maybe human kind too, after all, that's only Bernard who doesn't understand anything from what is going on in this season and Serac, who thinks that she wants kill everyone). While Maeve only will get her daughter and herself killed at this rate.
@@tameriz1280 Youre missing that point that Arnold made.. her plan isnt to destroy humanity herself, she's gonna let Caleb take care of that. She still has that poetic narrative. That's why she offered Haloress and all the other copies up to their own deaths.. Survival.. Which also is being shown Serac cant get in front of.. organized chaos..
@@antedote1 I mean, what Bernard said isn't necessary ultimate truth. At this point he can only assume. From his point of view this is the most obvious outcome. We don't know what Dolores thinks yet. Maybe she really wants to destroy humanity with Caleb's hands. Maybe she wants free them even at the cost of great loss. Remember previous episode, where he asked her, what if some people don't need freedom. She said that they deserve it anyway. Dolores have her own moral compass that can be very bizzare to someone else
@@tameriz1280 Like Jesus persay, given the obvious biblical references, she will sacrfice herself for the common good, believing she is a god.. but Bernard has laid more truth throughout than Dolores has this season.. He's been the control to the experiment.. He is purposely created to be her balance.. She's not concerned about the benefit for her personally, its the survival of the fittest.. that's evolutionary narrative being lost
What real metamorphosis for William (/s)!
He has gone from killing all hosts so hard it bored him to insanity to now....
Killing all hosts so hard with renewed enthusiasm! (and a white jumper)
No wonder Ed Harris is less than enthused with his arc lately.
robert black are you referencing an Ed Harris interview that I’ve missed? Where’s he said he’s unhappy with his character arc?
When a saw the interview I was afraid he became a human Dolores who tried to make amand of his acts and save the hosts (it would be so disappointing) but now, I'm happy. He's just the same guy, who is more happy to do what he knows better: killing hosts!
I did like how they seemingly tied some things up nicely with William's story. We weren't always sure what state William was in. He was always searching to discover his true self. He couldn't reconcile the man he saw in some of his memories with his family and being a benefactor in his memories and the evil he did in the park. It would make sense now that he was discovered to be in these re-education centers that he would have his memories changed/scrambled and he wandered around the park all that time in his own loop trying to reach the center just like the hosts.
God I really hope Dolores wins next week and Maeve either dies or is knocked down a few pegs. She’s kind of out of control and her motivations make absolutely no sense at all
Pretty Sure one of the Dolores clones gets killed by Maeve next week.
I totally agree.. I hate her character
Dhruba js have you guys not seen the first few episodes?? Serac owns Maeve and can preprogram her, kill her, send her back to a scarier westworld or anything so what choice does she have. You’re acting like she came into the real world and her first thought was “okay Dolores time to die” Maeve specifically told Serac in ep 1 what makes him think that she’ll kill Dolores and we don’t know what code Maeve has now
@@Irmagerdd but it looks like she does what she do to save her Daughter (or something like that) but the man who "has" her daughter is Dolores, not Serac. So I'm confused too about her motives. But I like the actress. She had something special in the show. Where Dolores is flawless and an ice queen, Maeve lokks more human.
Tim P but Serac is still the villain and not Dolores. If Serac has a way to control Maeve’s body there’s still a way. Personally, if I was Maeve I would pretended to side with Serac, then team up with Dolores instead and tell her to cut out my pearl and remake me in my body without all of Serac’s changes. Beat Serac and join my daughter if that’s really what I want, or work with Dolores to create a new world
your breakdowns are by far the most entertaining and the most informative ones.
awesome breakdown as always. That was a crazy action packed episode with some pretty brutal fight scenes. WOW. Sad to know only 1 ep. left for this season. keep up the great work
These are so good and every time I am amazed how quickly you get it done! Great job.
You know when a show has become to complicated,when viewers have to come here and have the story explained to them.
true but I still think it's better than most of what we watch and we don't give a second thought about it. there are so many very predictable ending in some shows, it's not even enjoyable to watch.
i like that part of it
Really well done, you point out small details that others miss!
best show ever! thanks for the breakdown. sometimes I miss things.
I didn't quite get Caleb's storyline. Was he sent off to that facility for them to change his memories AFTER he killed Francis? If so, why did Whitman imply that Caleb was already brainwashed in that facility? If it wast't for Whitman's line "By midnight I'll be landfill or headed down for a long cold nap in Sonora. The same place they reeducated you? Not that you'd remember" I would've thought the succession of events was: Caleb becomes an outliner --> sent off to war --> did a great job, wasn't a threat anymore --> used by the system to execute other outliners --> Francis incident --> Caleb brainwashed in Sonora --> present day. Which is the correct sequence?
He was brainwashed twice then...
After looking at the promo for the next episode, it seems William shoots. And that person undoubtedly could be Stubbs, the second mole.
Darrel Noronha ohhhhh. Nice.
@Saki Maro First, one being Charlotte
Lol 😂 cheeky start to the video!
For me this was the best episode of the season. Finally tied some story lines together. I'm glad to see more of the "Man in Black/White". I think Ed Harris really brings out the vibe of WW. Also nice to see Mave win one or almost against Delores.
Dolores and Caleb on Horses: Black and White - She's 1 move ahead vs He's 1 Move behind
I'm really enjoying this season, but there are a couple of issues I can't get past. 1) Why would Charlotte turn against Deloris? 2) Why would Mauve put all of her trust is Serac?
Both Charlotte and Maeve are driven by emotions. Both have something to protect, until Hale's "family" and Maeve's BF died.
Both wanting revenge for different reasons. Maeve helping Serac was just based off convenience and being held hostage.
Charlotte prolly wants to kill both parties. One for betrayal and one for revenge.
@Katy Noah, but it was Serac's men who blew up the car with her family in it. So for her to turn against Deloris for that just doesn't make any sense to me. If anything, the death of her family should have turned her vengeance against Serac, and made her allegiance to Deloris stronger than ever.
@Nicholas, So they have evolved consciousness, but they have not obtained the ability to reason and think critically to "win the game"? Serac is the one reasonable for the death of Charlotte's family, not Deloris. Serac would have killed them no matter what Deloris would have ordered Charolotte to do. Maeve knows every crooked betrayal Serac has ever commited, yet she still does his bidding because he "promised" her a life with her daughter in virtual heaven? His promises are worthless and she knows this. No, I can't get past this. The logical thing to do is team up with Deloris to kill Serac and work out the rest later.
@@lagaman11 evolved yes, but not fully evolved. Don't forget with every human interaction they're finding new things about themselves. Like the Charlotte's episode. She told Dolores that OG Charlotte was taking over, aka she was becoming her original self.
As for Maeve she's being held hostage. Don't forget that she's AI at heart, meaning it's hard for her to see things past black and white. She's so logical that she couldn't see things in-between. It's binary to a fault.
Remember too that Serac is a few steps ahead of her, hologram (for protection), remotely freeze her, as well as the planted explosives at the back of their neck. These are on top of promising her "daughter"
Its like game of thrones season 8. Starting to make no sense at all
I understand things better with this recap, thanks !
The making of the episode was really cool. I loved the special effects. The arm was great.
Dude you missed reference from person of interest another series directed by Jonathan Nolan...
They use term "Command" doesn't want us to talk to him, first time..
Secondly Whitman is an Russian mob in that series called Elias.. Hope others found references as me
Further the actor that played Whitman can also be found as the human that setup Jude Law (Joe) in a similar genre film Artificial Intelligence (A.I.)
My hope is the secret Dolores clone in Berlin is Teddy, that would be awesome
can't be. at the end of season 2 we see Dolores putting Teddy in the "Great beyond" so he's there with Maeve's daughter. can't be in the real world.
What if the entire thing is a simulation to see how the hosts would react if given the opportunity to enter the real world?
I've been thinking the same thing.
That would be very stupid and disappointing
That ending with Solomon saying “I must warn you” reminded me of that classic Seinfeld episode when Penske says to George “you are aware”
Have we seen Serac as an actual human yet? Can't remember...has he always been a hologram?
Shaun Flannery when he killed Dempsey Sr.
when he met Maeve in his house. he pushed the button to stop her from stabbing him and then he picked the knife from her hand and put it on the table. obviously when he was in his plane when the office blew up and killed the girl. her hologram glitched. he was really in the plane because why would an hologram be traveling like that? he's real and still alive at this date, just very paranoiac and mistrusting of everybody (for good reasons apparently) but yeah he really loves his holograms.
He killed that guy in Bernards house while Maeve was there. I don't think that holograms can shoot real guns, so that seems like at least one instance.
Can someone explain to me. Why on earth Maeve siding with Serac? All i that I can see is she is selfish and just want to reunite with her daughter at all cost. Dolores wants war and revolution, YEAH, but it comes with saving the very future of her OWN daughter. Serac is the the threat, we all can see that, Or she is just upset because she killed her friend. That same friends was killed multiple times for her sake 😑😑
Not to mention Dolores holds all the cards, and has the key to the sublime
If I'm not mistaken Serac is kinda forcing Maeve to do his biding. Otherwise she will never see her daughter again.
She also works with the very person who killed her Hector, to take down the only person who is *actually* interested in saving hosts, not exterminating them for being too chaotic like Serac (for ffs, he is killing people for being outliers, hosts won't have any mercy from this man). She literally doesn't make any sense in this season. I hope she was just reprogrammed by Serac or something
Her character hasn't been consistent with past seasons. Unless there is a reveal in the next episode or dare I say, next season.
@@jesse590 yeah, that why i said, she is selfish, even risking her own daughter's safety with helping serac. He iced his own brother and countless humans and hosts. He wont even blink to before killing maeve and her daughter if she dont have any use to him
She had no choice and now she pissed.... the rest just hated...
What a channel. Awesome. Cheers 👍🏻
Oh my god that beginning, I went searching for a Skip Ad button
I am shocked that you didn't address the warning from Solomon to Caleb... He legit said "I must warn you...." Then Dolores hit the EMP. What was that warning about?!
that's probably a warning for what's gonna happen in the last episode if the plan succeed. like Caleb gonna have to die at the end or sacrifice himself for the plan to be successful.
I think he was going to warn him that this would result in large scale human annihilation. Bernard says that Caleb will lead the end, not Delores.
Yes what was the warning!
Dolores' quest is to destroy evil from the world. That means killing a lot of rich assholes and destroy the incite AIs that control the world. The latter would screw with most of society and probably lead to a lot of bad before the good.
brilliant commentary
At 7:00 in the video... the "ice tomb" his brother is in is in the same shape as one of the major stones at Gobekli Tepe!! Pretty COOL!!!
The fight scenes this season have mostly been disappointing in my opinion. Both the big helicopter drone and the sniper rifle missed way more than they should. A computer controlled weapon wouldn't miss unless the target moved as it was firing, but several times Dolores was made aware she was being targeted because the computer missed, which them prompted her to move. If we have watched the whole scene from the helicopter or the sniper drone, it would be obvious.
What makes a fight/action scene bad, is too many jump cuts (count the number of cuts in the knife/sword scene), confusion of where all the actors are in relation to one another (in my mind it seemed like the drones would easily been able to spot their target), and actors that don't have a lot of experience with action/fight scenes. I mean... compare it to any old Hong Kong action movie and you will see what good fight scenes should look like.
I guess I should provide an example. While I don't mean that this scene is in any way similar, it's still a good example of less jump cuts, more competent action, and very clear what's going on - Michelle Yeoh vs Zhang Ziyi (Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon): th-cam.com/video/yf2gMoHEFME/w-d-xo.html
I couldn't agree more. 👍
Cost reduction maybe
@@amcravatamea Maybe, but a lot of Hong Kong action movies with great stunts/fights were filmed on very small budgets.
Woah that scene was awesome!
That scene was epic what are you talking about... 🙄🙄🙄
No way you sleep on Sunday nights with these uploads.
I think that Maeve meant that about Teddy, not William.
How the hell was Caleb's virtual assistant not effected by the massive EMP that just went off? Unless that was just an audio flash forward inserted into that scene
If it was off then it wasn't affected
Honest Insincerity 2 i think the information Caleb was listening to was from the flash drive Solomon gave him
My question is why did Caleb act all matter of fact after Delores finally revealed that she was a Host? It didn't seem to phase him one bit. That annoyed me to be honest.
@@sinseers because he wanted to find out the truth about himself and saw kinship in her
Jonida Sanço and she picked him knowing he was unstable
So I watch each episode twice then I come here to have it explained to me. Why is this still called Westworld and why am I still watching?🤔
If you don't want to watch, just don't do it, jezz...
This was a top-notch excellent review! I watched a few other reviews of this episode and they were terrible by comparison. Great job!
The clue is in the schizophrenia. Two personalities in one. In the beginning we only see boy Serac. Later his brother Jean Mi enters the story. Jean Mi is the elder, also the one damaged by the radiation. He has a psychotic break and his alter ego Serac gains the upper hand. There is no brother. Jean Mi and Serac are elements of the same person, a person who is put on ice so the body can survive. But the consciousness of Jean Mi/Serac has been uploaded. In Rehoboam, Serac's mind is the one that appears dominant. Serac as a human does not exist. He is only a series of holograms. He is is also deluded about his own nature. He thinks he is real and has agency yet is contained in an aircraft that stays perpetually in the sky, but this is just a simulation the Serac element of Jean Mi's uploaded mind lives in. Meanwhile the Jean Mi element of that same mind is confined to the system in Sonora. Even in Sonora the hologram of Serac says that he doesn't exist in this form anymore.
I like your theory, interesting.
There is -zero- possibility that Serac isn't real; he killed people, held objects in his hand that real people had held, etc.. so no..
@@JamesThomson09 assuming that every or any scene we see him in is real. My theory is not without holes and it's probably not true but it's a fun way to think about it
@@JamesThomson09 Unless Serac is also a host?
@@marcdefaoite That's true tho, if these were all simulations Serac could very well be something else. I think that it's possible we've seen simulations, but not all of them were. So that's why I still think Serac is real.
The EMP device wasn't part of Solomon's design. It was just put in the same building to keep it under control.
A fail safe. Dolores seemed to lure Maeve in.
I don't think Delores thought to use the EMP till she got her arm blown off and and she really had no other option.
My point was that the video said Delores and Solomon were similar in that they were both designed with fatal failsafes to keep them under control.
Solomon wasn't designed with an EMP inside it, they just put one in the warehouse.
The actor whom played Whitman also was in the film Artificial Intelligence (A.I.) ... and he played the human who setup Gigolo Joe played by Jude Law.
Why did Charlotte turn to Serac? Wasn't it Serac blowing her and her family up last ep? At least thats what everyone was thinking. So was it Dolores instead?
I think it's because Dolores could have helped her to save her family. Serac killed them because he had no choice, hale betrayed him. Dolores on the other hand had a choice, she refused and so hale is angry at her.
Serac does have a choice too not to kill Char and her family. It's even told by the guards that they need Char alive that's why they didn't shoot her back at Delos, or maybe they're just incompetent guards knowing its a host and won't die, but still didn't shoot her to at least immobilize her, that they end up getting smashed by bumblebee instead. Though if Serac os the bomber, he knew Char's pearl won't get roasted that's why he did it to show Char his capabilities. Though if Dolores is the bomber, then it could be to teach Charlotte a lesson not to attach herself to humans. But it would contradict Dolores' intention of freeing humans from their loops that makes me wonder, does she want humans and hosts to co-exist?
@@Lionspel Serac and Hale were already on opposite sides of the battlefield. Dolores is on the same side of hale, but still refused to help her. You can't blame your enemy, when both of you are at war. Mutual collateral damage is assured. Tell me, how would you feel when your ally cares nothing about what you want. Dolores could have helped to save them. In Hales eyes, Dolores is responsible.
I think Evan Rachel wood already confirmed it was seracs men who blew up the car in her twitter.
I have a feeling Serac's men picked Hale up, and that she's in the same situation as Maeve: oblige Serac or experience virtual and eternal hell.
10:21 It's not the same number. The 6th character is different (digit ''1'' for Caleb, capital letter ''I'' for William).
Thank you for sharing! I wish you had mentioned a key plot in this episode - the future scenario that Dolores told Solomon to plot out. I’ve been on the fence about what her true goal was and I think she reveals it in this episode.
William's robot insults remind me of the original Lost in Space, where Dr, Smith would always verbally abuse the Robinson's robot. I think "bubble-headed boobie" was the best. Almost as good as William's "can opener" quip :)
can opener or toaster have been used a few times in Battlestar Galactica with Cylons. who were robots with human appearance.
I just think the one Caleb thinks its Francis talking to him in episode 1, but it seems parallel to the hosts hearing voice they thought it was Arnold, but it was their own. So it could be Caleb's own coscience and voice.
I was really hoping you would speculate on what Solomon was trying to say right before the EMP went off, “... I must warn you”
He will not make it ?
How is it that Ford wasn't recognized as an outlier? The current chaos of the world, a threat to Serac's core ideals, is a direct ramification of Ford's choices (as well as Arnold's).
Maybe Westworld where Ford, Arnold and William spent many decades, (only periodically moving in the real world) wasn't part of the calculation?
How convenient this vid popped right after I watched the episode.
youtube is watching you lol
Feel anxious yet
well it just came out a day ago, the guy doing this analysis watched it has it aired and did this video directly after. I watch the episode and come here right after every time to see it. I don't see what's strange about it.
A small detail, but Francis was the name of Logan's partner in the movie Longan's Run. They were kind of doing the same thing. Hunting down people.
Also, at the end you see Delores' eyes flicker. This means she was backed up to the data drive Caleb has. As soon as the backup was complete, she hit the EMP.
I'm a little confused as to why Seroc getting that encryption key would save his brother. Isn't that only guest data (that apparently William had already sold to him years ago anyway?)? How would that help any of the people on ice? If anything, wouldn't it just confirm their U category if they went to Westworld? I'm lost on this point.
So I have a theory. All the host in the parks are modeled from humans, maybe all the outliers kept in storage. All the hosts we have ever seen in the show were copies of real people, like bernard was from Arnold....Im really looking forward to the reveal of Delores last host copy and what that host has been doing this whole time.
I thought so too
Interesting theory
I always noticed the circle as well. Sort of reminds me of the Vitruvian Man by Davinci that sought out the ideal proportions for man (Basically humans down to a science in 1400-1500’s). Could be that the host in circle is representative of getting humanity down to a science in the form of AI - and now Ciroc is alosmgetting humanity down to a science in the form of Rehoboam and the “realignment” of the outliers.
I noted that both Delores and Maeve are now in all black; and William is once again the Man in White. I don't know if I'm reading too much into the following; but in the adds, as the phrase "Free Will is Not Free"is flashing on the screen- right when the word (or name) Will is presented William is shown. It could be being said both metaphorically and literally.
When she referred to the person that Dolores brought out the darkness in, I thought she was talking about Teddy. I think that fits more since it was Dolores's direct manipulation that changed Teddy's -literal- programming. With William, we are told it was there all along and it was the park being an outlet. It doesn't seem like Dolores had any active agency in that, unlike with Teddy and Caleb.
That quadcopter shoots slower than the turret in LoL.... and that’s a something very very very very slow :D
Both shockingly inaccurate all of a sudden too during their face off. Sloppy writing. Westworld has always had poorly written action sequences unfortunately.
Ford will be back in the final episode! Saw it on the trailer
Passed pawn is a chess term. It means a pawn that no longer has other pawns inhibiting it from advancing to the eighth rank where it can be turned in for another more powerful piece. It's a way of describing how Caleb thought he was a nobody, a pawn, but Deloris believes he has a much bigger role to play. If he can reach the end of this path, he can become a major piece in the game. Also, not a big deal, but a quad copter would have four props. Maive's only had two that I could see. Finally, I couldn't agree more, cannot wait for the season finale!!!!
Man that Hanaryo kill was excellent!
That body you're talking about at the end of the video isn't an exoskeleton. Exoskeletons is an extra skeleton like structure layered over the outside of your body, for example to make you able to lift more weight or do other things your body isn't capable of.
Considering she is sliding flesh over the structure means it's "inside" her body. So it's just a "normal" or endoskeleton.
it's the previous models for the hosts from 30years ago when they weren't able yet to make them look like humans inside. but yeah exo isn't the exact term.
@@jmid6358 Yeah I noticed the old body framework. I just though this was the easiest way to explain haha
Did Caleb have a metal plate at his head? Cos, if he does, i think this could save him from Serac in the scene where he points a gun to Caleb's head... but im not sure if he have it or not.
OBSERVATION>>> Body of brother is in a machine like the Host... Caleb is still a version of his brother in host/human hybrid form. Thus reason the computer identified him...
First Outlier he found was his brother...
Zurok is probably in a stasis coffin and attached to Hobola thing and has a host/human hybrid body as well.
He touches and picks things up....
Hello, Jean Mi is a friendly nickname for Jean Michel in French, like Will is a nickname for William.
So his brother’s name is Jean-Michel Serac 🇫🇷👍
"This dude really loves holograms" lmaoo
I didn’t catch where it said that the doctor that attended William was a category U. All I got is that she was to only treat those kind of patients.
All of this drama could have been avoided if everyone had just listened to Stubbs back in season 1 about the robots rebelling. Stubbs was right all along. He is the true unsung hero of the story, having to deal with everyone else's stupid shenanigans while they ignore everything he's warned them about.
Strange amount of haters this show has. They like to complain about it why not abandon it?
Personally I love a show that doesn't spell everything out for me and leaves me pondering where it is going.
Was Caleb reconditioned twice? Once the first reconditioning where he came out as outlier hunter. 2nd after Francis died, to give him false memory. If yes then what was first AR therapy? If no, and if 1st AR therapy was with Dr. Greene, then why he was fed with false memories even if francis was alive
Solomon downloaded himself into Dolores just before to EMP was activated...
Remember who said it ;)
You are so right
Solomon was trying to give Caleb a warning before he picked up the USB but then Solomon got caught off.
Maeve and Delores are going to team up. They have been playing Serac all alone.
Solomon is the first A.I or Beta version and Reaboam is the ultimate version of Serac's AI. Solomon had issues which Serac thought would be fixed by improvising the Westworld data. This can be seen with the first generation of outliers, which Caleb belongs to. Serac was disappointment-ed with Caleb's decision to turn his back on Insight or his friend Francis. Thus, he thought Solomon needed some adjustments. Which he managed to fix with Reaboam version. That data was already transmitted by Hale in season two and was successfully used in Reaboam.
After discovering all these events, Delores and Maeve decided to move against Serac. As this would be what their creator Ford would have wanted or programmed them, in case of any breach. Maeve once managed to escape Westworld and thus proved to be a better ally for Delores. Hence, Bernard programmed them to go against Serac. It could be possible the human Bernard or Ford might be still alive.
At the start of this season the creators mentioned that Anthony Hopkins and Marsden might make cameo or return in this season.
Hale-Dolores going against Dolores is so dumb
Yea it's out of character to say the least. Also I dont understand how maeve is ok being used by Serac
@@MiamayaJones I think she knows it but remember that Halores killed Hector and Maeve wants to kill the OG Dolores since it was her idea in a way
@@isham2044 but still, it doesnt make sense why delores would be mad at herself after Serac killed her family. It just doesnt add up. Maeve from the start just started beefing with delores because Serac told her to?
@@MiamayaJones In episode 6, it clearly said that Serac need Hale alive. Hale heard it. So I think, when her car were ambushed, she knew (or assumed) it couldn't be Serac who did it, and Dolores said before that they were not her real family, she blame her for that.
Or maybe, Serac actually did it, but he put an idea to Hale that it was Dolores who did it to make her rebel against Dolores.
But yeah, it actually pretty dumb to make Hale fight Dolores
@@MiamayaJones Serac has her mentally held hostage. That's why she does his bidding. Of course she will eventually turn against him. Quite Obvious actually.
will there be an another season or this one is finale, did they annonunced?
I like these breakdown videos bro, but actually hate when you're speaking about the next episode previews and making fairly onpoint predictions from what you've seen, as I tend to skip these for spoiler reasons.
Calib is the only human left. The host run the world. And he goes to pier at the end of the season to kill him self
"Hence why" is not a grammatical construction in English. You can say, "...which is why Maeve is using a samurai sword," or "...hence, Maeve's use of a samurai sword."
that would be an impossible coincidence that she met him before knowing he was one of the ten successful reprogrammed candidate. but in the second episode she asks him his name and then wonder what becoming of him before saving him on the construction site. the way the episode was made, it really 100% looked like she had no idea who he was but took a liking to him for the choices he made, and then learned more about him. because the Rico app game him the job ordered by Liam's bodyguard to get rid of Dolores. he walked away and came back. it's not like Dolores could have predicted that exact behavior for Caleb at that moment so she could collapse in his arm to trick him so he would help her. maybe it's just a plot inconsistency.
OMG, Dear Delores. Fight it back. Come on! Whatever happen, i always support you
"U fucking can opener" instant classic.
Season 3 holy shit. HOLY SHIT!!!! Yo this show was always godlike, but they're on a whole different level right now.
(1) Is there any reason Solomon was left running after it was replaced? Did Serac think of it as a living being -- as a version of his brother -- and couldn't stand to kill it, merely imprison it? But why keep feeding it data about the outside world (which it must have to update the plan)? Has it been working on a way to heal Jean Mi and needed to be kept fully active for that? (2) You call it a quadcopter; HBO's captions call it a quadcopter. Am I missing something? Does a quadcopter not by definition have FOUR rotors, and does Maeve's copter not have two? (3) Are we sure Maeve meant William? If William got control of his inner darkness after his childhood but the park reactivated it, was that Dolores' fault? I'd say Teddy's alteration was the one to blame on Dolores.
What is the Westworld website? I went to the Delos one they have, but it's only about seasons 1 and 2.
Unfortunately, I can't deal with this season. What does the story has to do with the previous seasons of Westworld and how should it continue? More supernatural technology, even further in the future? So far it was a story about people and identities, now it is a story about technology.
Yea I love the show but I think its gone off the rails.
The previous seasons serve as parallels of themes and morals (the idea of free will). We believe we do but we are all just like hosts. We have a story written for us by a higher being (God, Deity, etc). This season shows a future where technology has advanced enough to create this "God." Previous seasons set up for this final act. The stories helps us relate to the hosts, and compare them to humanity. Where in this future humanity has fully absorbed Rehobram into their lives. Humanity has let go of free will and let technology make decisions for them. Versus hosts who end up resembling what makes humans = humans -- freedom (Dolores), love (Maeve), and family (Charlores).
@@Riceboy325 This is the aweful LOST storytelling way. You have something mysterious going on and suddenly you are left with Jacob and the Man in Black who fight against each other. Where individual motivations and stories are replaced with something completely new that makes previous seasons (or the previous story) completely irrelevant. Do I care the F about Caleb? Hell no, why should I do? I care about Dolores, William, Bernard, etc. But I guess that's "subverting our expectations"... Season 3 could be a completely different series (Otherworld or A View into the future of humanity, etc.), all characters from season 1 and 2 play sideroles to give the audience some kind of connection to Westworld. If they were not in season 3, it would make no difference for the story. Whether they are hosts or people or anyone else doesn't matter to the story at all.
I agree. It’s way to confusing also
@@kayom2000 I understand what you are saying all the way around....I have continued to watch because I like the actors and the original premise of the story....but it seems to stray and stray and almost step on itself....I remember watching this episode and exposition just came and came from all the characters in every other scene spliced together with some over spliced fight scenes....but really just thinking this story has so out thought itself that it is having to spend the penultimate episode of the season telling its viewers what is really going in this story and try to explain why every character is acting as they are but the characters and their motivations are so twisted that they make no sense and I am failing to care...
How does anyone know what Solomon revealed being as you could not hear it. Who the frak decided to record that voice 5 times fainter than every other voice in the episode? Where the hell is QC?
Caleb and William don’t have the same exact id. William has a “1” in the middle while Calb has an “I” in the middle. A subbtle difference. I think the Nolans are playing us ;-)
I thought the turned a young man line was about Teddy. I guess that gets into the Nature vs Nurture argument of West World. Did Delores turn the man in black or did he do that himself. Delores Turned Teddy twice, both times seemed to conflict against his actual nature, and he always seemed pretty young, or naive rather