Drivers still complain of exploding sunroofs despite closure of federal investigation
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- Federal officials say they have determined that there are no serious safety risks after thousands of people reported that sunroofs were exploding in their vehicles. Regulators have closed their investigation into these explosions, but people who have experienced this told Channel 2 consumer investigator Justin Gray that it sounds and feels like an explosion in their vehicles.
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We've spent 7 years investigating these incidents and we have determined that they in fact did occur. That is all.
Lol
Government
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Prety easy for a rock to hit it. I had a rock dented the roof of my car and sounded like a gun shot. and if it his the glass it would have easily broke it.
A seven year investigation? What did they do all that time?
Literally nothing
Nothing at all
They do have a lot of cases working at the same time.
Punched sand to see if that was the main culprit
Gov efficiency is anything but efficient, And at 10x the cost.
I've literally witnessed someone's rear view window on their truck explode a few years ago. The truck was a few years old, plus very well kept. The owner happened to place personal items in the back seat, then close the door with minimal force. After closing the rear door, the glas exploded inward as if it was hit with an object. Since I was standing next to the owner, we were both trying to figure out what in the world caused that window to just blow up. With this report, I now know that many people have ended up in their own episode of the X Files 😂!
There are pressure relief vents that are supposed to ventilate air pressure changes when you close/open the doors and hatch.
If one of those vents failed and stuck shut (there might be only one depending on the model vehicle), then the air pressure change from closing it can bust the glass.
One common cause is squirrels that have found that ventilation duct and filled it with nuts or whatever, no joke.
Edit: Such pressure relief vents are most often hidden behind carpet in the trunk/hatch area, you won't be able to see them without pulling up the carpet.
@@southernflatland yup. but 2 things. one, the door will be very hard to close , two, the glass will go outwards, not inwards.
@@josephlalock8378 Indeed, you're right. But in my experience, if a vehicle door is hard to close, most people will just slam it harder...
Same thing happened to me a few months ago. Was droving down the highway and my rear windshield just shattered for no apparent reason I could tell. Cost over 500 bucks to fix.
ChrisFix also made a video on that, but in his case, it was a window on an older Jaguar.
4000 complaints??????????????? Come on, Auto makers trying to dodge it.
Yeah address it and then no more sunroofs allowed on cars
Tesla gets a flat tire and it’s breaking news
and NHTSA protecting automakers...
😂😂😂 4,000 isn't anything. And in my 23 years in the auto industry. The only thing I found that breaks sunroofs is chasis flex, %99 won't admit they hit a huge pothole that flexed the car so hard that it broke the sunroof. 😂😂... because people are petty and hate to admit fault of their own.
Oh and you act like 4,000 is a lot. That's like %1 of my cities registered cars. It's not a problem of the manufacturer. It's a problem of the owners...
😅
@@VerticalHysteria ya you act like our roads are so perfect! It’s poor manufacturing, doesn’t matter how a cars movement is. No wonder you’re not working in that industry no more.
This happened to my parent’s Audi just yesterday. My dad, an elderly man at 89 years old, was driving on the interstate when it happened. This could had startled and caused him to lose control of his vehicle while driving with the flow of traffic at 70 mph…. Thank God they’re ok.
Word of caution. Putting window tint on a sunroof will increase the likelihood of the glass exploding. Brand new cars often come with window tint from the dealer. A good window tinter will tell you about this risk. It is especially more likely in hot places like Texas. I have my panoramic sunroof tinted. Both cars. No problems. But, I was told of the risk by my tint guy. On the safe side, sunroofs are tempered glass, so the falling glass will be pea-sized pieces that will not cut you. You may have to change your underwear, but you won't have to go to the hospital.
Unless you do “Ceramic Tint” which is 3 times as expensive and blocks heat preventing what actually causes the cracks. Just wanted to let you know, there is a way to still do it safely.
I’ve been around the window tinting business for over 30 years. One of the safest features of window tinting is the fact that because the tint is a solid vinyl piece of film, it actually stops or slows shattered glass from falling into vehicles, unless the film was punctured. I’m not sure why the window tinter told you that. Maybe I’m misunderstanding you or I’m missing something.
Interesting, was thinking on tinting my tesla cause nobody told me it is literally a greenhouse room with all the windows. Temps can reach 200 degrees if you don’t turn on the emergency ventilation that kicks in around 120 or 150 degrees but drains the battery
@@coldheartz2686 you can also get a roof cover for your tesla. They are fitted to your model
My assumption would be since the tint is adhered to the window, as it heats in the sun it could gradually shrink. That could put stress and pressure on the window, couple that with the fact your vehicle interior is either hotter or cooler than the air outside. Heat causes expansion in most objects, while cold makes things contract. Also when glass is tempered it creates pressure inside the glass on a molecular level, which is why when it breaks it shatters into a million pieces rather than a few big chunks. Also most sun roofs have a curvature to them, and run/sit on tracks exposing it to more vibration than something like your windshield.
All in all it's just a lot of different variables to factor in. I haul glass as a truck driver, all sorts of different types, some raw, some coated, some tempered, some glazed. Glass can be quite fickle to deal with.
This literally just happened to me. My sunroof exploded while I was driving down the highway here in Houston. Wow!
Did yours have tint.
@@aymanhawari2589 yes it did.
Glad you're ok! Scary. Is it a free fix? Certainly should be.
@@aymanhawari2589 wat u saying? Dark tint attracts n traps the heat which becomes a prob...a theory or experience? Or something else?
It literally happened to you? Are you sure it didn't just figuratively happen to you?
This is precisely why I insisted so much on no sunroof being fitted on my car.
Dealer wanted me to get the “premium package”. Sunroof that explodes and giant wheels with tiny tires to drive on massive potholes in my city? And then I have to pay extra $$$ for the inconvenience? No thanks…
No one puts a gun to your head to make your choices, once you hit puberty...you became entitled!!! Right?...or left????
Seriously tho 😂
Now a days they won’t sell you leather or premium options unless you get the trim with a sunroof and bigger wheels. I don’t like sunroofs either.
@@jessieharbinjr.6589 Absolutely, sunroofs are the dumbest thing ever. They leak, they break and I’m tall; I just don’t fit in when that thing is installed in cars 🤦🏻♂️…
Man I love sunroofs I've had at least four cars with them and hardly have any issues. I use them regular though.. just have to keep the gutter clean
This happened to me in a brand new 2023 Toyota Avalon. I was driving and boom! It was not a panoramic sunroof, just a regular sunroof. When I filed a claim the body shop they sent me to said they get at least two spontaneous sunroof claims a week, and have had for years now. Sounds like more than 4000, but they may not be getting reported to NTSA.
@@user-qk5dz1qy8y my apologies. I bought it this year 2023, but it is a 2022.
Nice
An Avalon may as well be a Lexus already
According to a shop owner - "...there are other reasons sunroofs might shatter, such as a small rocks or pieces of debris that can chip the glass. If the glass is tempered, sudden changes in temperature can cause the glass to expand and contract and cause the chip or crack to grow or shatter completely". This makes sense. 🤔
My thoughts exactly. A few years back, my side panel on my pc that was tempered glass exploded about 10 minutes after I got done playing a game that was pushing the system pretty hard. The inside of the case would get up to 50c then suddenly cool down to 15c after I got done, that process repeated over the span of just a year was enough to cause that explosion.
Making sense is true, but responsibility is something that needs to be stressed. Look if the glass does crack and I'm sure it does...then maybe the design and quality of the sunroofs needs to be addressed....yeah, I had a front windshield in my 2014 VW start to crack, I believe it was from frame stress from a previous accident and the temperature (it was cold and I used my heater on high)....speaking about small rocks or debris causes chipping, the paints for auto bodes being used since "Save the environment" started/with clear coat....I feel are much more brittle and prone to chipping....
The Shop Is Right This Is Ben Going On From Back In The 1970's.
I may know the reason(s) why this is happening.
As I worked at an Auto Glass factory and, my line made the majority of these sunroofs.
I broke a work rule in 2019 and was dismissed after 8-years but was trying to prove a point.
The rule I broke was due to videotape I took 9 months before I was let go!
(They waited 9 months to let me go and made me delete my video(s) which I didn't, I only made them private and, I know they know this. My Union didn't even back me up after the thousands of $$ I paid in dues.)
@@SSArt98 post the videos.
Panoramic sunroofs break because there is less steel roof structure to prevent the vehicle from twisting. The glass gets annealed over time and eventually blows.
Wrong
I'm on my second Cadillac SUV with a panoramic sunroof (they are freaking awesome btw) and I've never had a problem and I've never heard of this until just now.
there is enough flex in the whole sunroof assembly to keep up with any roof flex and still keep the glass from being in enough of a bind to shatter. my guess :sun baking it on one side and ac cooling it on the other and a chinese glass formula. btw, vehicle bodies flex and twist constantly. that's why unibodies are welded with spot welds away from the edges and not solid beads. the sheetmetal would tear at joints just from driving.
Everyone trying to say it's the heat, the bending, but how many years have people been driving in the heat and nothing like this happening, until now? And if the federal government is closing the investigation without any explanation, I would think that it's suspicious and they are trying to hide something. I have my own idea as to who is behind this and what is happening. But it can't be the heat, and what about other comments about this stuff happening inside hotel rooms and people's houses??? The heat bent their glass inside the house?
@@josephlalock8378 hell alot are not even spot welded they just use a seam sealer glue and clamp or press the panels together. it actually provides for a quieter ride compared to welded bodys. (there might be some spot welds but mostly glue)
When this happened to a friend of mine, I thought it was a rare occurrence. What I have learned is that the only way to prevent this is to buy a vehicle that DOES NOT HAVE A SUN ROOF! My friend thought he’d been shot, and was afraid to pull over. I can see how easily it could cause an accident.
I’ve owned 2 cars with sunroofs. Both Lexus LS models. No problems. Hottest summers in the country.
14,000 out of the millions and millions of cars sold.......it is super rare and probably nothing to worry about.
@Jordan Coleman out of the 14.000 I bet there would be someone who will die do to accident I hope I'm wrong
@@Allan-vx4pp and a few dozen people choke to death every year on the cap of their toothpaste, call the media!!!!!!
@jordancoleman2402 if it happens outside of the warranty period, be prepared for the cost of replacement, plus labor time. Guaranteed it won't be cheap...
They (the car makers and the ones doing the investigation) could have at least let the public know about this so we could make an informed decision when buying a vehicle. Some may choose to do without a sunroof because of this. This is a very dangerous matter that the investigators are taking too lightly….the cause doesn’t really matter…what matters is it’s happening and could lead to severe injury or death if it caused an accident.
you should talk to Ralph Nader, but he's dead....
It seems to be panoramic sunroofs not the typical ones that are much more common. They mention it in the story but don't seem emphasize that point.
It’s tempered glass. It’s not shard’s raining down stabbing anyone. It’s little (mostly harmless) “rocks”. The piece mentioned injuries were mostly from cleaning it up. A quick and relatively cheap insurance policy is having it tinted, even with a light coat. It’d hold any tempered pieces in place.
Why would the government do anything good for the public? Are you stupid?
Greed
Next time you are ordering a car, remember to uncheck the Exploding Sunroof option in the car configurator.
Sunroofs are unsafe and such a huge waist of money. Why don’t people wake up and stop buying useless crap that just breaks.
Because IKEA would go outta business....since radios/audio systems are not necessary and can be a safety hazard (attention distraction)...maybe ban those as well, and since EV batteries can go up in intense fires lasting for days maybe they should ban EV batteries????
This happened to me when I was driving down the interstate. My sunroof isn't panoramic though, just a regular sunroof in a 12 year old car. I had a hole about the size of a basketball and the glass looked like it exploded up instead of something hitting it. I think the temp was in the 90s.
I heard the AC makes the hot glass shatter
That’s an interesting theory
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@@jeffreyrwilliams9345 That would actually make sense. If the car had been sitting in the sun all day then the owner hops in and cranks the AC. Rapid temperature changes can crack tempered glass. A more extreme example would be the videos you see of people pouring boiling water on their frozen, ice covered car windows only for them to instantly explode.
@@y_zass I was definitely blasting the AC and it had been sitting out in a parking lot before I started driving. So, maybe. It was crazy how much "wind" I could hear as soon as it shattered even though the inside mechanism was still closed.
Wisdom
Don't throw stones in a glass house!
Rocks dummies
They “shatter”, they don’t “explode”. Sensationalism at its finest.
That happened to a friend of mine. The good thing was, she had complained in the past about the glare from the light tint. I told her to get a dark layer of tint put on it.
After it exploded, the tint kept all the glass shards together, rather than falling all over the passenger area.
They must be waiting for someone to get physically hurt. Why it's always this way? Before they can figure something out to prevent this problem from happening again.
Once a few people lose an eye or two then they will do something.
because to figure out how to prevent any problem is an additional cost to manufacturers ....reflect on the Ford Pinto/Ralph Nader story...
No, somebody has to die or get so scared from the explosion that it causes a multiple car pile-up before they'll look into it .
use PLEXIGLASS not real glass
"no serious safety risk" until someone gets seriously injured or dies. "It's not my problem until it's on my doorstep!"
Too much glass. The vehicle twist & bends but glass doesn't. A large portion of the roof is glass & if that vehicle body wants to move just a little bit that is all it takes.
That would make the most sense considering tempered glass is prone to breaking from edge-contact
True...and panorama sunroofs are becoming more and more common...frankly I hardly open my sunroof, nor do I regularly drive my convertible (Porsche Boxster) with top down....I guess I grew up...
@@kildozer2012 , it's mostly be cause they are using cheap, thin tempered glass. Make it thicker or even double paned and then it won't break... no matter what the torsional rigidity of the car is. New cars have gone down in quality and car manufacturers are only interesting in profiting. Car engineers have become slaves to the marketing system and are no longer allowed to make cars that last and that are reliable. Just look at Mercedes. They used to build tanks... now they build disposable, luxury cars, but they do still use good quality tempered glass that is thicker and stronger than the crap American manufacturers use... in general the tempered glass has always been thin and crappy on American cars...
WHY ARE THEY STILL ALLOWING THEM TO BE INSTALLED?!!
HOLY COW!!
Sounds like typical government efficiency. A seven year long investigation, by bureaucrats making six figure salaries, to end up with no conclusion 🙄
Not as strong as the windshield glass!?
Google that...I did long ago ....windshield glass isnt safety glass, safety glass explodes and crumbles...
windshield glass is constructed differently. it consists of 2 panes of glass with laminating material in the middle. once heated to certain temp its all fused together. its why it doesnt popcorn when it breaks
Depends on the situation your in.
Windshield Glass is special, also much more costly to make. Just search and you will see. Safety windshield glass was developed by Henry Ford after a years of work in the 1930s. People were dying horrific deaths from the windshield glass cutting throats and heads off before he invented it.
@@Michael-fe9ef Exactly
Weird. I have seen many rollover accidents where they don't break. I even tried smashing one with a hammer once and I actually gave up
I got news for those full glass roof cars....Surprise! You now have a convertible.
Now i see why people say don't buy car with sunroof. I really wanted a sunroof car when i was young
I've had 3 cars /suv with sunroofs and never had one break. I still drive my 2005 Dodge Magnum R/T that has a sunroof. I'm different than most people. I use mine all the time. I don't think I have 30 hours on the a/c in my car since I bought it in 2008. Every chance I get the sunroof is open as are the windows. Never any problems with it
I used to work in the automotive glass industry It is not uncommon for tempered glass to explode on it's own it is under pressure from the manufacturing process. It is heated to a high temperature and then the surface quickly cooled with a blast of cold air. Then allowed to cool normally this creates stress in the glass with the outer surface being in a state of compression the interior is in a state of tension. Any stress on the outside of the glass such as a small object striking it or the glass becoming too hot can blow it up.
Throughout the 1980s and 90s when sunroofs were made in America, this rarely happened. With Chinese-manufactured glass its a different story.
They were not that large. Oh you might be shocked to learn the top three makers of these glass roofs make it in Canada and the US
@@niyablake the glass is still imported from CHINA SMDH
It's not even the right kind of glass. Dual pane laminated is what it's supposed to be.
Pathetic sun roofs one of the stupidest thing a manufacturer can do to a vehicle
This never happened to me……wait, I don’t have a sun roof
I have never had any do that and I had many. This needs to be looked into
Same here! All of my vehicles with the exception of my very first car in the early 80s have had sunroofs
4,000 is a very small number compared to the number of cars sold. And just because the driver didn't see a stone hit it doesn't mean that there wasn't one. There is a lot of trash and debris on and around the roads these days.
A seven year investigation and no conclusion...nothing to report?
I think someone should be investigating the investigators.
Had a sunroof in one vehicle. Never again. Waste of money and just another thing to go wrong.
Most leak and most owners don't even know until it is all rusted out!
I am sure I saw a report that said this problem was due to fine iron fragment contamination in the glass manufacturing process. An Engineering report basically dismissed the possibility of an object from off the road hitting it being the cause, due the physics being implausible.
This happened to me. In a hyndai veloster. Had to take it to 2 dealerships to get it fixed under warranty! DONT BUY A CAR WITH A MOON roof. Rain can completely ruin the car!
Buy a tarp if your window breaks is also the lesson here.
I may be an extreme but I think sunroof on cars is a total stupid idea. After a few years, the Rubber seal is going to fail and it will start leaking when the drain pipes are clogged. The ones without the cover are going to let the sun come in and distract the driver. Some even complained about headaches with the sunlight constantly getting into your eyes from any flat reflective surface inside the car. Having the glass as the car roof also decreases the structural rigidity, which could be a safety issue in rollover accidents. It costs more and most people don't use it when it's there. My first car had a sunroof and none of the cars I got after that had it because I realize how much I hate having a piece of glass on top of my head while I'm driving.
If "x" is less than the cost of a recall- we don't do one.
What kind of cars are they??
Theres a reason our grandparents never bought junk made in China 😂
Hmmmm
"I was driving at 55 mph..." yea, right! 🤣🤣🤣 like you're going to get a ticket in the mail...
Yeah, that chunky chick was probably going close to 80mph, like most of them drive.
Why someone would waste money to put a window on the roof of their car in the first place suggests these people have way too much money. A motorized vehicle is intended to get a person from point A to point B and nothing more. Spending a dime more to achieve this is a psychological/ emotional problem that could best be addressed through therapy.
Maybe they overlooked some accidents and assumed the sunroof was shattered in the accident vs before the accident. If people hit their head , it’s possible they wouldn’t be able to remember the “explosion”. If they died, well, they can’t explain the sunroof exploded.
The same thing happened to my glass shower door a few years ago. Started "raining glass" in the middle of the night. Still not sure what caused it.
Was the glass in the shower door framed??? I have frameless glass in my shower doors, I was just thinking frameless lets the glass flex due to temperatures better (???)
@@MoveoverAndbark No, the glass in mine is also frameless.
Something like this happened to me at a hotel during a conference a few years ago. It happened while I was out of the room. When I came back to my room, there was glass everywhere.
When installing a shower box the glass cannot touch any hard part. For example, the hinges have screws but they cannot touch the glass, they need to just pinch the two sides of the hinges smashing some rubber which will hold the glass.
If any hard part is touching the glass, any dilation may shatter it.
Simple solution to prevent exploding panoramic sunroofs, is to simply get a car without the panoramic sunroof. I tried to get a new Rav4 and they told me that it comes with the sunroof and I told them to find me one without it and they found one and i got it. According to my research, it has to do with the type of glass that they are using. Tempered glass is the problem. Tesla uses laminated glass on their sunroofs and they don't have that problem. They need to force the manufacturers to use laminated glass so they won't have those problems anymore!
Its defective glass causing the sudden “explosion”. Im an auto glass technician and it is rare but it happens typically in very hot weather. But, for this many vehicles for this to happen the glass manufacturer should reimburse the car manufacturer and do a recall considering its a safety’s related issue…..
Also, if your insurance doesn’t pick up the bill its VERY expensive for the panoramic glass just FYI. Which probably explains why they determined it “wasn’t a safety related issue” as in someone got paid under the table.
Exactly!😊 Cured Ham Knows!
Vehicle roofs are not meant to have holes in them. This is what I was told in a training class I was in when I worked for a dealership. I 100% believe it too. Think about it, if you have the unfortunate circumstance of being in a rollover accident, do you want a metal roof or a piece of glass protecting you.
Exactly jdtractor
bingo forget the broken glass for a sec, if it should eventually leak, we'll that's because the manufacturer CUT A GIANT HOLE in the roof (hint: don't do this).
If we could have kept the metal cars.
This happened to me TODAY! I had no idea this had been occurring and have started my research into it just in the past few minutes.
To characterize this experience as 'frightening' is badly understated. I was traveling in moderately heavy afternoon traffic in the late afternoon just before rush hour. I was in the left lane. My sunroof was tilted up, not slid fully open. While following traffic there was an extremely loud explosion that I felt when it happened. I was immediately shocked and began to quickly inventory my car not knowing if I had been struck by another vehicle or what had happened. For all I knew, I had been hit multiple times, knocked out and something beyond the initial explosion had ensued that I was not conscious for, and was lying in wait for EMS reliving this experience in my mind. But I determined that my car was driving fine, no smoke, no impacts that I could see, no check engine light - I was still driving along though I had coasted to a much slower speed than what is normal for the left lane. It was probably 30-45 seconds when I noticed that there was glass scattered all throughout my car, in the seats, the floorboard, the center console, and on me. There were a couple of small shards that had lodged into the underside of my right forearm where I rest it in the center. This is tempered glass so we're not talking shards like a broken mirror. But even tempered glass will break the skin. I finally realized that this was my sunroof that had shattered and I thought that something had struck my car roof breaking the sunroof but I would have seen an object coming that caused this type of damage and I did not. The explosion of the glass formed a near perfect rectangular hole in the sunroof and all other glass was shattered end to end.
I filed a claim with my auto insurance, took my car directly to the dealership, and left it there. Glass continued to fall in on me in bits and chunks as I drove. I was certain not to lower the sunroof or operate the sunroof in any way to prevent glass in the track causing further issue. I have a rental now and it appears that a replacement glass is all that will be needed for my repair. And a thorough vacuuming of my car from front to back. When I returned home, the grocery sacks that I had with me after leaving the store prior to the incident had broken glass in them as did the bag that I typically carry over my shoulder containing my license, credit cards, documents, etc.
I hope this is a once in a lifetime. I could go a lifetime very content never having this experience again.
I love having a sunroof but I may reconsider them when I purchase future vehicles.
I want more cars with metal roofs. Panoramic sunroofs are such gimmicks.
My mom's Mercedes did that a while back. If they know that's a problem they should fix it for free instead of having to file it on your insurance
True...all manufacturers who know about it should, not just MBZ...if it is a problem and people continue to get rained on by glass bits...then sunroofs would need to be banned, or automakers would need to due their due diligence and design solutions....
Don't worry, once insurance companies decide they no longer insure vehicles with sunroofs, or you have to pay extra coverage if you own a car with one, then something will be done about it.
@Joe smh. My mom was at a light and she heard something hit the car. She was wondering why she kept hearing wind noise. We happened to go out to eat cause my brother and other relatives were in town. I was sitting in the back and happen to look up and I could barely tell because the screen was covering it. We kept riding but the hole kept getting bigger. I believe it was a few thousand to fix it
Does it only happen in the South (heat)? What % of these shattering sunroofs happen at night? ...in the winter?
So, they just closed the case cuz they couldn't find the issue?? Jeesh. Thats seems wrong. Are they able to do that because it hasn't caused any fatalities (yet)??
I guess my car has this problem too, and with the rear window as well. It's always in the back of my mind
That's defective tempered glass and no recall? Our Samsung TV had a glass base that exploded like that from sunshine thru the window and the bang was terrifying. Can't imagine if that were to happen while driving? Very unsafe.
I have had cars with sunroofs but usually try to avoid them if possible. Besides getting broken from heat or road debris they can leak as they get older and the powered ones get stuck open when the motor or hardware goes bad.
You are suppose to maintain them. Clean and lube the tracks.
@@89five3five You don’t maintain depreciating property. Cars are throw aways.
@@user-tb7rn1il3qThe dumbest logic I have heard all week.
@@user-tb7rn1il3q You maintain them so that you aren't throwing them away so easily or frequently, but you do you.
@@southpaw117 Cars usually reach a point where everything breaks. I do basic maintenance and patch repairs. I know people that spend a fortune in maintenance and still have to buy a newer car.
It's a sunroof glass is really hot and you wash your windshield and that cold water goes up onto it that'll bust it. The sun is hotter now than it used to be you can feel it when you walk out and direct sunlight the convection is temperature is warmer and Chinese tempered glass is thinner. Compare the thickness of the glass in a 1976 Cadillac sunroof to the thickness of the glass and new modern 85,000 not worth it vehicle
I remember i had a sudden explosion. My wife wasn't too happy that night
I had this happen in my 2009 Scion TC. It just exploded and made a loud noise. It was a crazy amount of work to repair the window.
Wow! Never heard of this before. I don't use my sunroof, ever. It's there, but it's not of interest to me. I keep the cover closed on it. But I'll share this vid with my friends, so they can be aware.
This is unacceptable and overt corruption that they allegedly do such a long investigation and find nothing, while my first thought was a manufacturing error that causes tensions in the material.
My second thought was to examine how many reports there are of objects hitting car roofs and then try to figure out whether something might have hit the sunroof in some cases after all.
So don't get a sunroof.
It's funny how they single out the American automakers when Nissan, Honda, and Toyota leads the pack with sunroof explosions
This is one of the many reasons why I don’t buy vehicles with sunroofs. If I wanted an open air experience I’ll roll the side window down, or just buy a convertible.
One less motor and window tracks to worry about.😊
I've always found putting a window in your roof to be rather silly. Go figure removing a serious portion of the vehicles body weakening the structural integrity and replacing it with glass that doesn't flex will create a problem. 🤦🤷
And this is why I chose no sunroof on my truck. No shatter and no leaking problems.
I feel like sunroofs / moonroofs should be made out of acrylic or polycarbonate by default. It doesn't need to be breakable for escaping like the windshield or side windows. If safety is an issue they could just be built with a lever that easily pops off the whole assembly like an emergency door on an airplane.
made in china
I dont care for sunroofs anymore.
Bring back T-tops though 🔥🔥👏🥰
Geez, they'd have to bring back Pontiac Firebird TransAms...please stop spewing your spew...
@@MoveoverAndbark You got a problem with Firebirds? 🤷
Why most Vehicles have positive ventilation vents to prevent this. We have 30 year old vehicles still on the road today with original sunroofs. Quality just isn't there on anything anymore.
I’ve had the driver side door glass explode like that for no reason once. When you aren’t expecting it it sure shocks you.
Never had a small sunroof shatter, them bigger one lots of micro flex, expansion, contraction, easy fix is a laminate tint.
My sister had a Toyota sunroof blow off at highway speed. Nothing left but the frame. Toyota would do nothing, she traded it for a Nissan and they lost a long time customer.
@@leegraves101 Wait until her JATCO CVT transmission craps out in her Nissan! LOL!
One of the many reasons why I stand clear of sunroofs/moonroofs.
Everything is made so cheap these days. And nobody cares.
Most of this is caused by heat on the outside and air conditioning on the inside. The pressure gradient changes so fast the glass cannot compensate. This has been going on for all the time we have had glass sunroofs. Its one big reason not to have one. It can even happen to side windows too.
Wow, I never heard of this till now. Crazy stuff but that makes sense. How cold the inside glass is vs outside, but why doesn't it happen to houses?
@@zzoinks because you aren't driving your house down bumpy roads where the whole structure is constantly flexing, and heating and cooling occurs much, much faster in vehicles because the cabin is the size of a bathroom in a house.
@@zzoinks Houses have much more airspace and tend to even out the pressures, whereas cars are extremely confined and have a lot of glass to build the heat and in the case of cold, it cant dissipate the pressure difference quick enough.
This is very scary.
I retired after working 38 years for an auto glass manufacturer. Spontaneous explosion of any tempered piece of glass is most likely caused by thermal “vents” that occur when the glass exits the bending furnace and enters the tempering “quench”. If the air pressure being blasted onto the sunroof, side window or backlight is not set at the correct amount of force and length of time then thermal vents can occur in the glass. Once installed in the car the vibration coming from the car going down the road….or heat from the sun on the outside of the glass and cool air from the a/c on the inside can cause these “stress fractures” to open up causing the tempered window to shatter. This is the glass manufacturer’s worst nightmare and the car companies will charge them for removing and replacing these windows in all the affected vehicles. They may also sue them for the loss of consumer confidence in their vehicles due to the glass manufacturer’s negligence.
I worked with glass for a while i think this is a simple issue of the tempered glass expanding while sitting in the heat bowing the frame and rapidly retracting when you start driving due to the air passing over it repeated enough it can break.
Used car owner here, i have a list of what NOT to buy. Cars with sunroofs are at the top of that list! Then turbochargers, fart cans, race seats... And 5.0 mustangs. Unless of course you like vehicles would have been driven into the dirt.
Goddam Im so glad I skipped on the sun roof option when buying my SUV
Basically they are saying, we do not know what to do so we are going to close the investigation and ignore it.
Aw man the Grand Wagoneer is brand new of a design.
I've seen this with glasses on a shelf at a bar before. It's something that's always happened, but now we have social media. I can't imagine this being any worse than a stone through your window.
Ban assault sunroofs! Common sense laws are needed!
Honestly it's just another thing to worry about. Better to not have it at all. Even when I did have it I didn't really use it much at all.
I've lived in the Northeast all my life and I've never once heard of a sunroof exploding. Granted, it probably never gets hot in the summer to the point of the glass expanding and thus likely causing the explosion. I'm guessing this has been happening with cars that mostly come from the sun belt region of the states?
I lived in so. Cal. for 30 years & never heard of em exploding, either.
Tempered glass doesn't expand. Even convection ovens use tempered glass... as do microwaves. It's the fact that the cabins in cars have gone super air tight, and the fact that Jeep (Fiat) used some cheap, thin tempered glass.
That heat🔥🔥
My friends husband had a 96' Camaro driver window do that. He got out, shut the door and we were grilling out, about 10 minutes or so POP.... Nick went over to look and his driver window was out. Not sure if that has anything to do with it, but I've at least seen what they are talking about.
Reminds me of the self-destructing camera glass on the Pixel 7!
Gotta love that American engineering.
I can imagine the sound. I didn’t experience the sunroof explosion but I had a glass door to my bathroom explode for no reason. Everyone in the house heard it and came running to the bathroom. I have a 17 year old suv with a panoramic sunroof. I don’t open it but only the rear to let the heat out often. That’s crazy we’re only hearing about this now.
Wow, glass can shatter, I am shocked.
Which models? Never had a problem with any of my Japanese cars with sunroofs
Neither have I; and I've owned three vehicles that had sunroofs with one being a vintage classic 1979 Toyota. You guessed it, no problems.
That’s why a car that’s a hardtop is so much better. Plus, a hardtop protects you more from the elements.
My car does not have a sunroof. Although I do like them, I don't want to have water in my car.
TH-cam fails by not having a standard volume setting for the videos , this news station could use a good sound guy , one who actually isn't deaf and listens to the output . I do find it very annoying when I can't hear a video because the source can't figure out how to adjust their source volume on TH-cam . TH-cam should simply make a standard and all videos should start at that same volume , but nope , we get this . Got more of my attention than some first world issues with Sun roofs.
Wow scary stuff.
If my sunroof exploded, I would be deleting the sunroof entirely with a delete panel.
I had a car years ago and a starling decided it liked dropping pebbles on car windshields while they drove by. Two times that bird messed up my windshield and then I stopped driving down that street. People don’t realize that a tiny pebble of quartz can completely destroy a window.