It was widely reported that Carell would not return for the finale. His inclusion was kept a secret. And his limited screen time during the finale was done so that he'd remain a cameo. Any more screen time and he would appear on the cast list -- therefore, ruining the surprise. I know it's easy to look back on in hindsight and say that we needed more Michael Scott during the finale, but Steve Carell wanted the cast that stayed to receive the focus. Besides, Michael Scott already got a perfect send off.
Angela's character change wasn't done in the last episode as you claim. The season was building up to this ever since her husband began cheating on her with Oscar. As the episodes went on, she got a taste of her own medicine being cheated on, as her life slowly fell apart around her. Being evicted from her apartment and having to live with Oscar, needing to rehome her cats as she could no longer care for them, she was an absolute wreck by the end of the season, and her situation humbled her. She no longer had the position to look down on others, as she was the one needing help. Going forward she had hints of her old self, but she had lost her bite. In other words, this character arc was happening throughout the last season. You just didn't notice, for whatever reason.
I feel that Angela was the only one acting when the cameras were on. She wanted to present herself as a righteous Christian. We finally got to see her real self in the last season.
Dwight was originally supposed to be written out for the Schrute Farms spinoff series mid season though but NBC scrapped it and Dwight was made the focus for the rest of the series. So yeah it’s kinda forced but this is the first time I’ve seen this perspective.
What I got out of the final episode of Everybody Loves Raymond is that life goes on. Yeah, it's plain and simple, but I prefer this over one of the characters dies or moves to another city or country or planet.
I absolutely love that Vee left in the amnesia rant for the Full House series finale despite being completely wrong and acknowledging it onscreen once he had Googled it.
Yes, Michael was underutilized in the finale of The Office, but Jim's best prank ever gets me every time, and I'll always watch that moment when it's on.
I like the finale, I can’t see a show like this having anything major happen besides the parents moving away somewhere and they already covered that plot. The last scene is a good bookend with the story going on, we can imagine Frank and Geoffrey living much longer lives
Workaholics has one of the best send offs. On the roof, drinking and smoking. Where it all started. But as if it was an end to any other show, while zooming out to see the staff. Subtle but fulfilling
@louis_sass I believe they got screwed over by paramount plus saying they weren't the direction the company was going. We can tell because paramount plus sucks ass
I just recently learned how Harriet was a character on a different show that was spun off to create Family Matters, with Carl making some appearances as well. Family Matters was literally created for the character of Harriet, and they replaced her lol. I bet she of all the cast, was absolutely peed when Urkel started taking over the show.
@@dhenderson1810I watched the f*** out of perfect strangers as a kid. I'm still sad we never got to witness Balki and Rose from golden girls tell each other stories about Mypos and St. Olaf tbh
That everybody loves Raymond scene where he is having trouble waking up from anesthesia was the first scene I ever saw of the series. I never even knew it was the finale.
While I agree that the finale to Everybody Loves Raymond could have been more memorable, it definitely was a tonally and thematically appropriate send-off for the show. Everybody Loves Raymond was all about dissecting the minutiae of everyday family life, family politics and relationships. It wouldn't have made sense for something grand to happen, so they went with the most significant event that could still be an everyday occurrence: a small death scare. I'd argue it made artistic sense for the show to go small rather than go big for the finale.
I specifically came into the comments to say this. ELR wasn't my favorite show by a long shot or even appointment viewing, but I knew it was a good show for what was on display. And I remember walking away from the finale feeling satisfied. It was a small event, but it had big heart and I think that finale was perfect for that show.
Hard agree! The entire series was a window into the life of an ordinary, albeit interesting and hilarious, family. There could be no finale, because there was no ending. They're all still living their lives together in my head even now, despite the sad deaths of several cast members.
I agree. I can't think of any examples at the moment, but there have been other shows whose series finale episode was not grand-scale, and it was still good to watch. I like how Everybody Loves Raymond ended showing that life goes on, nothing grandiose, and we're okay with that. Others may call it mundane, but this is our life and we are happy with it.
I hate shows that feel they have to do something really big for the Finale instead of just keeping it simple and having life go on with the only difference is we don't get to see into it anymore. I would rather have this type of finale over one like "Friends" where all up them just go and change their lives at the exact same moment, talk about unrealistic. How many times have you ever been around people where the whole group makes a huge change to their lives.
"Family Matters" should have finished the minute it stopped being an ensemble show and focused only on Steve Urkel and the other main characters became background players instead.
I posted this on reddit but I had a dark theory where something terrible happens to Harriet Winslow mid-season 9. Carl and Steve take a random woman (or maybe the nun that JudyAnn Elder played in an earlier episode) and used her in Steve Urkel's transformation chamber. Rather than turning into Stefan or Elvis or Einstein or Bruce Lee, its programmed to turn the woman into Harriet. In all actuality, I think the reason why Family Matters didn't end on the wedding was that the show was canceled and not naturally concluded. They were planning a season 10 which would likely have had the wedding.
I would have preferred for them to have gotten married as the season final of season 9, and made a season 10, which would have been the final season, and shown how life was for Steve and Laura as a married couple.
What are you *talking* about? The Christmas episode? It’s not the series finale, just either a late season 1 episode or (perhaps you meant) the season 1 finale, I forget which. That said yeah that was odd to open with, especially watching it live and assuming something was going to happen at the end to subvert Orel’s waiting, and then it just ended. Would’ve been more crushing to see it in the proper order.
Can you make one of these about the ending of Alf? It was a really weird ending where he gets captured by the US government and then the show just ended.
@@tedweeks772 not right after. The movie came out YEARS later. The episode was not actually meant to be a series finale just a season finale cliffhanger but then the show did not get renewed. They knew before it aired that there would not be another season but not when they made it. Why they went ahead and aired it knowing it would not get concluded is anyone's guess. I think maybe they were hoping it would create enough demand for more that the network would cave in but it didn't happen.
The Goldbergs. Once Jeff Garlin was fired from the show after being accused of sexual misconduct on set, Adam F. Goldberg the creator of The Goldbergs had left the series to working on other projects, the death of George Segal, the show ratings had been waned throughout its run, and rising costs production, ABC decided to canceled the show after 10th season and ended so abruptly with a rush terrible ending. What the heck? That's not how you end the show. It's a huge slap in the face. Make us fans so mad. Yes, the show had ran its course, but ended the show the way it did is unacceptable. This series deserve a better ending than what we got. Apple TV+, Prime Video, Peacock, Paramount+, Tubi, or The Roku Channel, please revive The Goldbergs as a full epilogue series or TV Movie to finish their story the way it intended to do.
Monk is a show that is easy to watch any episode on yet still has some callbacks or reoccurring characters that keep you viewing with extra interest in familiarity. Plus when I saw the finale I didn't even know that it was the episode airing but immediately knew that it had to be it and was like Oh my gosh I get to actually see this. Anyway shows like that get it right 👍👍 Also very good review the Family Matters narrative had me thinking about the Key and Peele skit 😂
iCarly (the only decent reboot) just recently suffered the same fate as Full House in fact it ended on the biggest unanswered question of either show. I hate when studios disrespect long-running shows by ending them abruptly. 16 years two series and you don't let the cast end things on their own terms. Just awful
I hated how they changed Angela for literally only the final episode... all of a sudden, she is sweet, happy, loving, giddy, pleasantly likeable, and supportive of Dwight.... all of the things that she WASN'T for the ENTIRE REST OF THE SERIES... I never learned to love her, because there was literally nothing endearing about her... Except maybe her love of cats. Then the final episode just made me feel weird... I wanted to be happy for her... but I couldn't forget the past, and how it in NO WAY lined up with her current characterisation. Fuck that. On a separate note... "Everybody Loves Raymond" was an awful show. One of a handful of sitcoms that were so bad they caused me to completely stop watching sitcoms all together. Mike and Molly was another, as was 2 1/2 Men. Dreck.
3rd Rock From The Sun comes to mind. You might have talked about it in a previous video. Everybody Loves Raymond should have ended with the s9 two-parter opening where Frank And Marie actually move away only to move back and conclude they're never getting rid of them. I get they wanted to emphasise the title, everybody does indeed love Raymond, calling back to I Love You one of the first few episodes. But the core conflict was the parents and how moving away was never possible. The hospital moment is good but Frasier has a similar moment with Daphne and Niles and that's midseason filler.
Regarding The Office, the last two seasons may been rough without Michael Scott but they did a lot of character development with Dwight & Angela. I disagree that the finale was out of place, to me it helped resolve a lot of the “where are they now” questions. Which was a breath of fresh air as the last two seasons where not the same without Michael.
The everybody lives Raymond finale might not be great but i think its far from terrible, though i understand if you feel its totally forgettable. Sure it's bland and seems like another episode but the show was about a family, his family and their ups and downs through each episode. To create some big dramatic scene out of ledt field for a finale would be just as bad. They probably wanted to go big but then again that would throw the show off and feel like an episode from a different show. Also I'm glad you mentioned the final scene of them eating. They did that a few times throughout the series run and I think it describes the show perfectly, they wanted to capture a loving and dysfunctional family and us the viewers as taking a peek into their lives. I think for that part at least it was fitting to end it like that.
I actually thought Ed Helms becoming the Manager in The Office would be amazing. He started off as a really funny boss that could actually compare to Michael Scott. But as soon as he left it was like watching a show without a main character. To have him get this promotion only to leave is a punch to the gut. Then again, I couldn't stand those Hangover movies.
Gotta disagree I absolutely love the series finale of The Office. While not perfect it ended the series with a sensible conclusion. As far as Steve Carell they only had him for a day as he was shooting a movie while they were filming the series finale. This has been known for years now. So I'm happy Michael was in it at all.
Also, Steve being there was a surprise to everyone. They literally handed the script pages with michael out the day of shooting. They were trying to keep it out of the press.
I was really hoping to see Steve's and Laura's wedding. I wish they had went forth with instead of Steve going into outer space. I don't mind the Steve going into outer space, but l would have preferred the wedding episode as the series finale.
@@josephclegg3562 Absolutely 💯 tell me about it Steve going outer space 🚀 it definitely fit his character but overall you know like you said the wedding 💍 episode wouldn't been a whole lot better 💯
For the office I thought everyone knew Dwight was supposed to get a spin off of his own with his family on the farm. They did a pilot episode for it during the office
I love backdoor pilots. My all time favorite is in the Rockford Files- he had two black friends, one who was a bruiser ex-con and one a bit of a loner bounty hunter with a heart of gold (played by Bubba Smith and Cleavon Little, respectively) who were going to be paired up and travel around with Cleavon Little's dog, who iirc was named Frog. Just saying, the sheriff from blazing saddles and high Tower from police academy fighting crime with a dog sidekick would have been CLASSIC seventies tv The biggest secret backdoor pilot hidden in Rockford files though... there's an episode in the second to last season iirc written by a young David Chase where Rockford meets the head of the new Jersey mob, "Johnny Boy" Soprano and his wife Livia...
For what it's worth, Dwight is the only character in the entire series that is in every single episode of The Office. Because of that, i think he actually is 'that guy' even though the last 3 or so seasons of The Office did indeed suck balls.
I'll never understand how anyone who actually WATCHED Family Matters could honestly believe that Jo Marie Payton starred in the final episodes. Essentially, that one guy just admitted he thinks all black people look the same (to him). Otherwise, I'm pretty sure dude desperately needs an MRI.
It crazy for someone to think that. Why would Jo Marie Payton leave a show that she's been on for nearly a decade and playing the Harriette character for over a decade and return to the same show for its series finale to play another character? It doesn't make sense.
the Family Matters ending could've been a movie with Steve coming back at the ending for the wedding then a year or two time skip with a kid or two, everyone is wearing prothesis to look older.
Family Matters Season 10 cast(supposedly) Reginald VelJohnson as Carl Winslow Darius McCrary as Eddie Winslow Kellie Shanygne Williams as Laura Winslow Orlando Brown as 3J Cherie Johnson as Maxine Johnson Tammi Townsend as Greta McClure JudyAnn Elder as Harriette Winslow Jaleel White as Steve Urkel Special guest star Bryton James as Richie Crawford Rosetta Lenoir as Estelle Winslow Shawn Harrison as Waldo Faldo Michelle Thomas as Myra Monkhouse Telma Hopkins as Rachel Crawford Jaimee Foxworth as Judy Winslow
With Family Matters and Full house, both of them got their cancellation notices midway through their last seasons, without any notice that the last season would in fact, be the last one, so, the writers really had to scramble in order to get some sort of conclusion. So, writers may have been planning on having the season go one way, and then they had to completely pivot to figure out how to end those respective shows.
Family Matters was expecting and prepping for a 10th season. Which is why they didn’t write out Harriet and why that episode doesn’t feel like a finale. CBS canceled the block of sitcoms that included Family Matters after filming season 9 and they burned off the last episodes through the summer. If they would have known they were canceled or that season 9 would be the last, things would have been different.
Family Matters got Canceled because the Cast REFUSED to go on without Michelle Thomas and did NOT want Myra Monkhouse written out of the show. They decided to can going forward with S10 when they learned how Terminally Ill Thomas was.
@@Tornado1994Nah. Sounds good but theres so many stories surrounding why the 10th season didnt happen. This is the first I've seen where that was the excuse used. Sources, please.
Yep, this is 100% on the money. The ratings for season 8 of family matters were bad, and ABC cancelled it...And then, CBS picked it up (it also picked up Step by step), and the writers had no idea season nine would be the last one, and then, CBS cancelled it midway through the filming of season 9, so writers had to scramble to try and get some sort of proper ending. As you said, if the writers had known ahead of time that season 9 would be the last season, then there would've been a different ending.
Putting the office on this list is fucking wild. To be honest. The office for was perfect for what it was. Every character got the perfect sendoff. Wrap up the series nicely.
I don't think that they really wanted Steve & Laura to actually get married, because then it would make people believe that life always goes your way.....Anyone who's lived into their 40's knows it rarely works that way.
It's also crazy that the final season of family matters was on a completely different network, cbs. I thought that Steve Carell said once that he wanted a very very minor role in the finale. He didn't want to dominate the last episode. Same with Raymond, they didn't want a big deal. I get it. What were they gonna do, kill off Ray and Robbie's dad in the last episode?
Blame Disney... After they bought ABC a year before, They cancelled the M/B shows in favor of their own Disney content for the last few seasons before axing TGIF. This was the same reason Sabrina ended up on The WB. Also, Family Matters' popularity was waning before the CBS move. Same with Step by Step. They could not compete with TGIF, so CBS cancelled both shows. The finale was a burn-off episode, while Step by Step never got a finale.
Mad respect for editing into the video the information on amnesia that demonstrates your voice over is ironically totally incorrect. Seriously-- takes a real man to both look up and then admit when he is wrong.
Great Video as always Vee! I loved the amnesia rant, which is true. For years tv has been lying to us that amnesia is losing our memories of a brief time and then boom! you got your memories back! Just like that! So...now that you're mentioning fuller house, are you gonna talk about it??? I've really didnt like that tv show but I really want to know what you thinks about it.
It went downhill when Steve became the focus of every episode. They just should have done a "Steve Urkel" spin off series and left "Family Matters" to be about the Winslow family.
I saw the Sopranos' ending before i saw anything else, so i thought it was some sorta mystery show to try and figure out who shot who. Then when i saw the season finale i thought "Huh, why didn't they show anything." only to find out i had basically watched it backwards
Great vid, nice to see someone admit that they were wrong. However for these shows it seems that you forgot something, and that is that these shows are about people and the story of a person or family doesn’t end because we aren’t watching it continues on. I think the last three lines of Full House said it best: “We stuck it out and got through it. Like we always do. Like we always will.”
The final 2 seasons of The Office wasn't too bad, but the stars they tried to replace him Michael with, no matter how short, were just terrible. I think Angelo and Robert California was not the way the show should have went. I think they should have sold Dunder Mifflin back to David Wallace sooner and gotten rid of Rober California.
Yeah, I was always surprised why people ehm… so positive about Office finale. Its satisfying to some extent but its not great and you raised a lot of good points.
Since Full House was an after school staple for me (Turner superstation originally then ABC family), I was really surprised by the finale being the finale. Full House wasn't a stranger to mid season 2 part episodes, so this just felt like any other episode.
In all honesty, Perfect Strangers was the ONLY Miller/Boyett TGIF show to ever get a proper finale that wasn't too far-fetched. Also, Boy Meets World was the only TGIF show to ever get a proper finale.
I have personal experience with amnesia thanks to a TBI. I lost everything from 2-3 days before the car wreck and about a week while in the hospital. From what I was told they had to tell me every time I woke up that I was in hospital because of a car wreck. I retained my long term memories though. My aunt told me that when she was visiting they brought a therapy dog to see me and I guess the dog was a bigger one because my aunt says I looked right at her and said "he's like Homie". Homie is her dog Homers nickname. It was during one those waking episodes that I tried to escape the hospital. I was told I destroyed the room in a panic and they found me walking down the hall using a crash cart to lean on. I don't remember any of that.
The family matters finale seems like a fitting conclusion given how bizarre the show itself had gotten over the last couple seasons. I think the show itself made a big mistake by making Steve Urkel such a Central figure in the cast. The show was much better when he was just a side character. Then they let Judy go around the same time. Steve became a main cast member. The later seasons were pretty much unrecognizable from how the show started.
I always thought Home Improvement had a weak Finale. Al gets married and Tim moves his entire house while Jill becomes a Psychologist? Seems like the ending should’ve had More Power!
I hate shows like Raymond, in the last few yrs (last one especially), have actors that are so RICH, they don't pull off the "middle class" they are supposed to be.
For Family Matters, I think they had the idea to do the space episode as an idea for the next season before learning they were going to be cancelled. Whoever came up with the idea was adamant about that being the finale. I think it should have been either the wedding (but that's not my first choice), having a big party for Eddie graduating (not bad but...), or Estelle and Fletcher showing up having to move in with the Winslows because insertreasonhere. Maybe they just missed being around family or they could have done something like their home had a temporary issue that was going to need to be repaired and would take a few months (maybe a storm tore some of the roof off and rain got inside, messing things up), something. Then have them move in and Rachel somehow move in. End it by saying that family would always be welcomed because family matters (cheesy but true). I would have done as little of Steve as possible. A couple of scenes like the planning for the wedding and a scene with Myra. It should focus on the family and sort of mirror the pilot. Bless Jaleel White for literally saving the show as a young teenager. I watched every episode when it first aired as a kid. Never missed one unless maybe there was a storm that knocked out the power (it was a long time ago). I have the entire series on DVD. I had the coloring book as a child for this show (yes, that does exist). My brother had an Urkel doll. We loved that show as a family. Anyway, it really wasn't Jaleel's fault that his character turned into a caricature of itself. Some scenes, watching them again, make me think SNL would have come up with that as a skit. The NASA thing included. That was the writers not being reigned in. He was so talented at comedy at such a young age, probably one of the most gifted comedic child actors to have ever lived. The writers figured out his talents and just went overboard with it. I tend to visit the first 4-5 seasons more than the latter ones, personally.
Knight Rider. I was 5 when I came to the US in 87 and it had already aired, so I caught reruns here and there without knowing what was going on, and it wasn't until it ran on USA in order that I realized that I had seen the last episode "Voodoo Knight" many times by that point, but nothing indicates it's the series finale, I always thought the last episode was the one where his wife died as it makes sense and when I finally got the internet in late '95 that I found out was originally intended to be.
I’ll tell you why Everybody Loves Raymond had a low-key season finale - Seinfeld. Seinfeld’s season finale was so hyped but when people saw it, they HATED it! It’s still regarded as a failure to finish a show so much so that the cast CONSTANTLY makes jokes about it. Since Raymond’s fanbase included a lot of Seinfeld fans, I’m sure Phil Rosenthal and the writers decided to just keep the last episode simple and not make a big deal out of it. I remember it being a perfectly serviceable last episode, but I haven’t seen it in a while.
Whatever ending comes, I will be glad when the Simpsons is finally taken off the air and same with ncis because they’ve been in a death spiral for years.
The weird thing is that Harriot was the reason why Family matters existed. It was because of her that the show was made, so it was nice that she stayed on as long as she did but wtf....you don't change the actors, you just get rid of them....like Urkel being gone, we could just have normal episodes without Harriot Urkel was cool and he was why I watched. But it was the whole family that made him so special...not because he was cool by himself, he wasn't. I completely blanked the last season because of it, way to make something and then kill it before it could be put to rest as a success. I don't have conversations about show endings....I don't talk to anyone about tv...its fake and entertainment. When I don't need to be entertained, I would rather have conversations about MUCH meaningful stuff. But...you say every ending is the worst then you say genuinely think this is the worst? You know how to take any credit you had away. You're always gonna say this is the worst and one day you will say you genuinely think this is the worst...so now I instead of take it with a grain of salt, all I have is the grain of salt. Saying everything is the worst is terrible business model that basically reduces your opinion to "likes and ums" so...I really don't know how people can watch more than one video without going this kid is nuts
In marketing, worst/best isn't the top. Beer freezes at the same temperature. So Every liquor store in town can say they have "the coldest beer in town" by keeping it 1 degree above freezing. You can't say it's colder unless you can actually prove it. So in a marketing/legal sense. Worse is worse than worst.
Some shows think they are getting a final season but doesn't (ex. MARRIED WITH CHILDREN), Some get a movie finale (ex. DEAD LIKE ME) and some get a proper finale (ex. HOME IMPROVEMENT)
I never watched Raymond nor the ending episode but the way you talk about it makes me think its a great ending for a sitcom. We just stop watching them but it implies the show keeps going as it always has. Every other sit com has some big stupid dramatic resolution to all the arcs, they move, they get together, they go to jail, some big final send off that I think is a terrible thing to do to a sitcom which is meant to be something comfortable and dependable, like its always the same, these characters are always there living their lives like they do every week. Ending all of that just to end the show betrays the essence of it.
Mister Belvedere got a 1 hour special to close out the show yet Full House got no respect. The show was garbage but the fans deserved better. Never forget that up until streaming changed things, your favorite shows only existed as a vehicle to get you from one commercial break to the next.
Steve Carrell asked to not have many lines in the finale cause he hadn’t been a part of the show for a long time and didn’t want the episode to be about him. which is dumb, but that’s why he wasn’t in it much
I had no idea that the series finale of Everybody Loves Raymond was the tonsils episode until today. After googling it, the premise basically was that the show-runner had the idea that since every other series finale ended with a breakup or someone moving away, that Raymond wouldn’t do that. The family would just keep going. It started in the middle and would end in the middle essentially.
i always thought the two and a half men final episode was very disappointing it was just kind of stupid. having a piano fall on top of charlie to me just wasn't a good way for it to go out
"The first ever student astronaut..." Hopefully it went better than the first ever teacher astronaut. I'll keep waiting on the SLOAT finale, and AD- not S3, but S5, after all the Netflixing where everyone resets to first position... except for Buster, who's a murderer! I've said it before, maybe even here, Oscar and Angela not stepping up for Kevin- as the only person in the office with the temerity to stand up to the philandering (state) Senator- was a missed character beat. Also, with that in mind, there wasn't a good reason to fire Toby, and manager Dwight should have had more sense than to put a financially struggling small business on the hook for extended UI to pay a functional employee not to work as one of his first managerial actions.
I feel like I would love to just chat about tv shows with you and I liked the video! Andy was absolutely a train wreck for being a manager. I felt like they ruined his character. I get they needed a manager but dang man..I hated Andy by the end . That being said I cried at the finale episode 😂. Oh and also I felt like the Toby and Pam dance where she said something about his feelings for her was so cringe 😂 why? Why do we have to relive the hand on the leg thing again?? Anyway, I love these! I hope you do more!
WAIT THAT WAS THE SERIES FINALE OF EVERYONE LOVES RAYMOND?! I saw that one like dozen of times growing up and legit thought it was just a normal bleh ep
When you started talking about finales that you didn't even realize was a finale I definitely expected you to talk about _Married with Children_ and/or _House of Cards_
Them swapping Jo Marie for Judy Ann Elder is equivalent to them swapping Janet Hubert for Daphne Maxwell Reid. Both replacements were polar opposites of the originals and just unforgivable.
Characters should have arks just like people do. If you're the same person after 9 full years in every way, you're stunted and dysfunctional. Like most TH-cam critics. "Why isn't Loki still a stunted, immature jackass like me?? I don't want to watch Loki anymore because he's more of a grown up than me now!" Well, grow up and catch up then. Stop saying these characters have to mess up their lives, too.
The finale to the Office felt like some Bizarro World concept. I was a mega fan of the show. So to see such drastic characteristic changes, and to have the dynamics seem so unorganically flipped was jarring to say the least. It felt like I entered some Office parallel universe. I didn't hate it. It really tried hard to be this heavily emotional and sympathetic send-off-- which I can appreciate. But it didn't capture the essence of what made the show great, either.
THAT was a disaster, after they already took away the main cast. Funny thing (for me, personally) is that I started the show by watching episodes of Season 5, not realizing how great the rest of the show was before then.
It was widely reported that Carell would not return for the finale. His inclusion was kept a secret. And his limited screen time during the finale was done so that he'd remain a cameo. Any more screen time and he would appear on the cast list -- therefore, ruining the surprise. I know it's easy to look back on in hindsight and say that we needed more Michael Scott during the finale, but Steve Carell wanted the cast that stayed to receive the focus. Besides, Michael Scott already got a perfect send off.
Except that they for all intents and purposes gave it away by crediting his wife.
They should’ve somehow incorporated David Brent!
He got every parents dream!
They should have just had Harriet move out to go search for her long lost daughter Judy.
The producers should have never written Judy out.
That baby died, and the family covered it up.
@samchesney3794 lf she died and they covered it up, then how did you find out about it?
@samchesney3794 my brother and I always said they murdered her lol
Judy was let go.@@josephclegg3562
Angela's character change wasn't done in the last episode as you claim. The season was building up to this ever since her husband began cheating on her with Oscar. As the episodes went on, she got a taste of her own medicine being cheated on, as her life slowly fell apart around her. Being evicted from her apartment and having to live with Oscar, needing to rehome her cats as she could no longer care for them, she was an absolute wreck by the end of the season, and her situation humbled her. She no longer had the position to look down on others, as she was the one needing help. Going forward she had hints of her old self, but she had lost her bite.
In other words, this character arc was happening throughout the last season. You just didn't notice, for whatever reason.
I feel that Angela was the only one acting when the cameras were on. She wanted to present herself as a righteous Christian. We finally got to see her real self in the last season.
Dwight was originally supposed to be written out for the Schrute Farms spinoff series mid season though but NBC scrapped it and Dwight was made the focus for the rest of the series.
So yeah it’s kinda forced but this is the first time I’ve seen this perspective.
What I got out of the final episode of Everybody Loves Raymond is that life goes on. Yeah, it's plain and simple, but I prefer this over one of the characters dies or moves to another city or country or planet.
The Family Matters Series Finale was the inspiration for GRAVITY with Sandra Bullock playing the Urkel character.
Is that true?!
@@JLee-g6wwhat do you think, genius?
I absolutely love that Vee left in the amnesia rant for the Full House series finale despite being completely wrong and acknowledging it onscreen once he had Googled it.
Its a thing critics do. No big deal. But he has to atleast keep his rant in as there can't be too much positivity
As a critic, he will probably make a video ranting about the show in your profile pic.
That's probably why the Olsen twins refused to be in the rebooted series.
As a TH-cam producer he realized he needed the length and left it in. No other reason. Run time.
Minutes watched are minutes watched
Yes, Michael was underutilized in the finale of The Office, but Jim's best prank ever gets me every time, and I'll always watch that moment when it's on.
That's only cause they only had Steve for one day
@@jetman80pops Then fork out the cash for two or three days. You're fucking NBC after all.
The Raymond one was actually really good. Theres small clues even from episode 1 of the series that Rays biggest dream is to lose his tonsils.
Good on paper maybe. But in execution, it felt like almost every scene was phoned in by the cast.
I love that finale. I think it's great that it didn't feel like a series finale.
I never gave Raymond a chance as a kid. Hated it.
I’m older now with a wife and kids of my own so maybe I can relate more to it
@louis_sass Yeah, I never watched it, his character seemed too annoying to me.
I like the finale, I can’t see a show like this having anything major happen besides the parents moving away somewhere and they already covered that plot. The last scene is a good bookend with the story going on, we can imagine Frank and Geoffrey living much longer lives
Workaholics has one of the best send offs. On the roof, drinking and smoking. Where it all started. But as if it was an end to any other show, while zooming out to see the staff. Subtle but fulfilling
The whole last few episodes where it gets all meta and parallels their real lives making the show was incredibly done
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wasnt the only show to do that. but yeah it was nice that it ended the way it began. made it come full circle
Workaholics needs a revival. They’ve made a couple of movies since then and they were funny as hell.
Workaholics needs a movie or a revival
@louis_sass I believe they got screwed over by paramount plus saying they weren't the direction the company was going. We can tell because paramount plus sucks ass
I just recently learned how Harriet was a character on a different show that was spun off to create Family Matters, with Carl making some appearances as well. Family Matters was literally created for the character of Harriet, and they replaced her lol. I bet she of all the cast, was absolutely peed when Urkel started taking over the show.
Yeah, she was a character previously in "Perfect Strangers", where she played the elevator operator in Larry and Bali's work building.
Kind of like how Happy Days was supposed to be about Richie Cunningham, who wasn't even in the last few seasons
@@donalny Yeah, well Fonzie became the focus, like Urkel did in "Family Matters".
@@dhenderson1810I watched the f*** out of perfect strangers as a kid.
I'm still sad we never got to witness Balki and Rose from golden girls tell each other stories about Mypos and St. Olaf tbh
I guess the key and peele skit had some truth to it. 😂
That everybody loves Raymond scene where he is having trouble waking up from anesthesia was the first scene I ever saw of the series. I never even knew it was the finale.
The AI art of the wedding is sooooo terrible. I would never use it for anything I create.
While I agree that the finale to Everybody Loves Raymond could have been more memorable, it definitely was a tonally and thematically appropriate send-off for the show. Everybody Loves Raymond was all about dissecting the minutiae of everyday family life, family politics and relationships. It wouldn't have made sense for something grand to happen, so they went with the most significant event that could still be an everyday occurrence: a small death scare. I'd argue it made artistic sense for the show to go small rather than go big for the finale.
Exactly what I was going to say. I thought the Everybody Loves Raymond finale was perfect.
I specifically came into the comments to say this. ELR wasn't my favorite show by a long shot or even appointment viewing, but I knew it was a good show for what was on display. And I remember walking away from the finale feeling satisfied. It was a small event, but it had big heart and I think that finale was perfect for that show.
Hard agree! The entire series was a window into the life of an ordinary, albeit interesting and hilarious, family. There could be no finale, because there was no ending. They're all still living their lives together in my head even now, despite the sad deaths of several cast members.
I agree. I can't think of any examples at the moment, but there have been other shows whose series finale episode was not grand-scale, and it was still good to watch. I like how Everybody Loves Raymond ended showing that life goes on, nothing grandiose, and we're okay with that. Others may call it mundane, but this is our life and we are happy with it.
I hate shows that feel they have to do something really big for the Finale instead of just keeping it simple and having life go on with the only difference is we don't get to see into it anymore. I would rather have this type of finale over one like "Friends" where all up them just go and change their lives at the exact same moment, talk about unrealistic. How many times have you ever been around people where the whole group makes a huge change to their lives.
“Urkel doing the urkel” worlds best line
Urkel can piss off.
"Family Matters" should have finished the minute it stopped being an ensemble show and focused only on Steve Urkel and the other main characters became background players instead.
Family Matters should have ended after the 4th season, because it was the last season to feature the original Winslow family.
@@josephclegg3562 how long did the show last? 7 years?
I'd watch it.
Most of these shows should have finished two or three seasons earlier.
Steve should never have dumped Myra just because Laura started coming around. That is not how you treat a woman who loves you.
Steve always loved Laura in the beginning. Myra was just a distraction.
Ultimately it worked out since the actress died during one of the later seasons. 🤷🏻♂️
@daver1161, they just showed her in this clip for the series finale
@@keithtorgersen9664 yeah well, it is how you treat a woman you don’t love. Let me guess you also think Pam Beasley was right in leaving Roy Anderson?
@@daver1161 I haven't watched too much of The Office so I don't really know who Roy is.
I posted this on reddit but I had a dark theory where something terrible happens to Harriet Winslow mid-season 9. Carl and Steve take a random woman (or maybe the nun that JudyAnn Elder played in an earlier episode) and used her in Steve Urkel's transformation chamber. Rather than turning into Stefan or Elvis or Einstein or Bruce Lee, its programmed to turn the woman into Harriet.
In all actuality, I think the reason why Family Matters didn't end on the wedding was that the show was canceled and not naturally concluded. They were planning a season 10 which would likely have had the wedding.
I would have preferred for them to have gotten married as the season final of season 9, and made a season 10, which would have been the final season, and shown how life was for Steve and Laura as a married couple.
Steve not falling for Myra never made any sense, she was as close to the perfect partner for him as I existed in that show.
That “watch the finale before the show” thing happened to EVERYONE with Moral Orel. They aired it first on purpose, and it legit barely makes sense
What are you *talking* about? The Christmas episode? It’s not the series finale, just either a late season 1 episode or (perhaps you meant) the season 1 finale, I forget which.
That said yeah that was odd to open with, especially watching it live and assuming something was going to happen at the end to subvert Orel’s waiting, and then it just ended. Would’ve been more crushing to see it in the proper order.
Can you make one of these about the ending of Alf? It was a really weird ending where he gets captured by the US government and then the show just ended.
I just saw something about that last week. A new show was supposed to come out focusing on what happened after Alf was caught.
They made a tv movie right after that is a conclusion for it
@@tedweeks772 not right after. The movie came out YEARS later. The episode was not actually meant to be a series finale just a season finale cliffhanger but then the show did not get renewed. They knew before it aired that there would not be another season but not when they made it. Why they went ahead and aired it knowing it would not get concluded is anyone's guess. I think maybe they were hoping it would create enough demand for more that the network would cave in but it didn't happen.
@@RJPolitoThe network promised Alf’s producers another season, but they changed their mind
The Goldbergs. Once Jeff Garlin was fired from the show after being accused of sexual misconduct on set, Adam F. Goldberg the creator of The Goldbergs had left the series to working on other projects, the death of George Segal, the show ratings had been waned throughout its run, and rising costs production, ABC decided to canceled the show after 10th season and ended so abruptly with a rush terrible ending. What the heck? That's not how you end the show. It's a huge slap in the face. Make us fans so mad. Yes, the show had ran its course, but ended the show the way it did is unacceptable. This series deserve a better ending than what we got. Apple TV+, Prime Video, Peacock, Paramount+, Tubi, or The Roku Channel, please revive The Goldbergs as a full epilogue series or TV Movie to finish their story the way it intended to do.
How else was Everybody Loves Raymond supposed to end? Its a comedy series about a family. Its the perfect ending for that show.
Monk is a show that is easy to watch any episode on yet still has some callbacks or reoccurring characters that keep you viewing with extra interest in familiarity. Plus when I saw the finale I didn't even know that it was the episode airing but immediately knew that it had to be it and was like Oh my gosh I get to actually see this. Anyway shows like that get it right 👍👍 Also very good review the Family Matters narrative had me thinking about the Key and Peele skit 😂
iCarly (the only decent reboot) just recently suffered the same fate as Full House in fact it ended on the biggest unanswered question of either show. I hate when studios disrespect long-running shows by ending them abruptly. 16 years two series and you don't let the cast end things on their own terms. Just awful
That's different. Icarly didn't get a series finale properly since it was cancelled after it was filmed/aired.
I hated how they changed Angela for literally only the final episode... all of a sudden, she is sweet, happy, loving, giddy, pleasantly likeable, and supportive of Dwight.... all of the things that she WASN'T for the ENTIRE REST OF THE SERIES... I never learned to love her, because there was literally nothing endearing about her... Except maybe her love of cats.
Then the final episode just made me feel weird... I wanted to be happy for her... but I couldn't forget the past, and how it in NO WAY lined up with her current characterisation.
Fuck that.
On a separate note... "Everybody Loves Raymond" was an awful show. One of a handful of sitcoms that were so bad they caused me to completely stop watching sitcoms all together.
Mike and Molly was another, as was 2 1/2 Men.
Dreck.
3rd Rock From The Sun comes to mind. You might have talked about it in a previous video.
Everybody Loves Raymond should have ended with the s9 two-parter opening where Frank And Marie actually move away only to move back and conclude they're never getting rid of them. I get they wanted to emphasise the title, everybody does indeed love Raymond, calling back to I Love You one of the first few episodes. But the core conflict was the parents and how moving away was never possible.
The hospital moment is good but Frasier has a similar moment with Daphne and Niles and that's midseason filler.
Regarding The Office, the last two seasons may been rough without Michael Scott but they did a lot of character development with Dwight & Angela. I disagree that the finale was out of place, to me it helped resolve a lot of the “where are they now” questions. Which was a breath of fresh air as the last two seasons where not the same without Michael.
The everybody lives Raymond finale might not be great but i think its far from terrible, though i understand if you feel its totally forgettable. Sure it's bland and seems like another episode but the show was about a family, his family and their ups and downs through each episode. To create some big dramatic scene out of ledt field for a finale would be just as bad. They probably wanted to go big but then again that would throw the show off and feel like an episode from a different show. Also I'm glad you mentioned the final scene of them eating. They did that a few times throughout the series run and I think it describes the show perfectly, they wanted to capture a loving and dysfunctional family and us the viewers as taking a peek into their lives. I think for that part at least it was fitting to end it like that.
I actually thought Ed Helms becoming the Manager in The Office would be amazing. He started off as a really funny boss that could actually compare to Michael Scott. But as soon as he left it was like watching a show without a main character. To have him get this promotion only to leave is a punch to the gut. Then again, I couldn't stand those Hangover movies.
Gotta disagree I absolutely love the series finale of The Office. While not perfect it ended the series with a sensible conclusion. As far as Steve Carell they only had him for a day as he was shooting a movie while they were filming the series finale. This has been known for years now. So I'm happy Michael was in it at all.
Well, critics generally have to be cynical. He wont enjoy The Office finale, and his tolerance is not quite high. Thats what makes critics; critics
Also, Steve being there was a surprise to everyone. They literally handed the script pages with michael out the day of shooting. They were trying to keep it out of the press.
Your absolutely about right about family matters series finale as a 90 kid it was big disappointment 😢
I was really hoping to see Steve's and Laura's wedding. I wish they had went forth with instead of Steve going into outer space. I don't mind the Steve going into outer space, but l would have preferred the wedding episode as the series finale.
@@josephclegg3562 Absolutely 💯 tell me about it Steve going outer space 🚀 it definitely fit his character but overall you know like you said the wedding 💍 episode wouldn't been a whole lot better 💯
For the office I thought everyone knew Dwight was supposed to get a spin off of his own with his family on the farm. They did a pilot episode for it during the office
I love backdoor pilots.
My all time favorite is in the Rockford Files- he had two black friends, one who was a bruiser ex-con and one a bit of a loner bounty hunter with a heart of gold (played by Bubba Smith and Cleavon Little, respectively) who were going to be paired up and travel around with Cleavon Little's dog, who iirc was named Frog.
Just saying, the sheriff from blazing saddles and high Tower from police academy fighting crime with a dog sidekick would have been CLASSIC seventies tv
The biggest secret backdoor pilot hidden in Rockford files though... there's an episode in the second to last season iirc written by a young David Chase where Rockford meets the head of the new Jersey mob, "Johnny Boy" Soprano and his wife Livia...
I thought that spin off was planned a few years earlier?
For what it's worth, Dwight is the only character in the entire series that is in every single episode of The Office. Because of that, i think he actually is 'that guy' even though the last 3 or so seasons of The Office did indeed suck balls.
I'll never understand how anyone who actually WATCHED Family Matters could honestly believe that Jo Marie Payton starred in the final episodes. Essentially, that one guy just admitted he thinks all black people look the same (to him). Otherwise, I'm pretty sure dude desperately needs an MRI.
Good idea adding the (to him)
It crazy for someone to think that. Why would Jo Marie Payton leave a show that she's been on for nearly a decade and playing the Harriette character for over a decade and return to the same show for its series finale to play another character? It doesn't make sense.
I believe the simple answer was her contract wassup and she agreed to do only 8 episodes the final season.
the Family Matters ending could've been a movie with Steve coming back at the ending for the wedding then a year or two time skip with a kid or two, everyone is wearing prothesis to look older.
They should've ended the series with a two parter wedding episode instead.
Family Matters Season 10 cast(supposedly)
Reginald VelJohnson as Carl Winslow
Darius McCrary as Eddie Winslow
Kellie Shanygne Williams as Laura Winslow
Orlando Brown as 3J
Cherie Johnson as Maxine Johnson
Tammi Townsend as Greta McClure
JudyAnn Elder as Harriette Winslow
Jaleel White as Steve Urkel
Special guest star
Bryton James as Richie Crawford
Rosetta Lenoir as Estelle Winslow
Shawn Harrison as Waldo Faldo
Michelle Thomas as Myra Monkhouse
Telma Hopkins as Rachel Crawford
Jaimee Foxworth as Judy Winslow
With Family Matters and Full house, both of them got their cancellation notices midway through their last seasons, without any notice that the last season would in fact, be the last one, so, the writers really had to scramble in order to get some sort of conclusion. So, writers may have been planning on having the season go one way, and then they had to completely pivot to figure out how to end those respective shows.
Family Matters was expecting and prepping for a 10th season. Which is why they didn’t write out Harriet and why that episode doesn’t feel like a finale.
CBS canceled the block of sitcoms that included Family Matters after filming season 9 and they burned off the last episodes through the summer. If they would have known they were canceled or that season 9 would be the last, things would have been different.
Family Matters got Canceled because the Cast REFUSED to go on without Michelle Thomas and did NOT want Myra Monkhouse written out of the show. They decided to can going forward with S10 when they learned how Terminally Ill Thomas was.
@@Tornado1994Nah. Sounds good but theres so many stories surrounding why the 10th season didnt happen. This is the first I've seen where that was the excuse used.
Sources, please.
@@Tornado1994Ended due to low ratings.
Yep, this is 100% on the money. The ratings for season 8 of family matters were bad, and ABC cancelled it...And then, CBS picked it up (it also picked up Step by step), and the writers had no idea season nine would be the last one, and then, CBS cancelled it midway through the filming of season 9, so writers had to scramble to try and get some sort of proper ending. As you said, if the writers had known ahead of time that season 9 would be the last season, then there would've been a different ending.
Putting the office on this list is fucking wild. To be honest. The office for was perfect for what it was. Every character got the perfect sendoff. Wrap up the series nicely.
BINGO say it louder for the people in the back
110%!!!
Nah. I personally agree w Vee on that one
It’s an awful ending. The show should of ended when Carell left. Your blinded by your love of the show.
It had a really great 10-12 minutes. But the rest of the episode kind of sucks.
There will never be a worst final episode of a TV show then St. Elsewhere's infamous "Snow Globe".
It made you feel like the entire series was pointless to have watched.
Honourable mention for horrible finales has to be Seinfeld
Maybe "Family Matters" didn't know it was a finale, and it got axed before a proper finale.
I don't think that they really wanted Steve & Laura to actually get married, because then it would make people believe that life always goes your way.....Anyone who's lived into their 40's knows it rarely works that way.
It's also crazy that the final season of family matters was on a completely different network, cbs.
I thought that Steve Carell said once that he wanted a very very minor role in the finale. He didn't want to dominate the last episode.
Same with Raymond, they didn't want a big deal. I get it. What were they gonna do, kill off Ray and Robbie's dad in the last episode?
True. But this is a critic's channel. A critic would be more cynical than the average person. So, understand why he did not enjoy it
Step By Steps final season was on CBS as well.
@@seriesx9508Being a critic doesn't mean you have to bash it for dumb reasons
Blame Disney... After they bought ABC a year before, They cancelled the M/B shows in favor of their own Disney content for the last few seasons before axing TGIF. This was the same reason Sabrina ended up on The WB.
Also, Family Matters' popularity was waning before the CBS move. Same with Step by Step. They could not compete with TGIF, so CBS cancelled both shows. The finale was a burn-off episode, while Step by Step never got a finale.
Steve Urkel dying would have been a great ending.
I hate that annoying character.
I LOVED the final episode of The Office.
Most fans seemed to love it. There wasn't anything 'forgettable' about it
I think they did the finale of everybody loves Raymond how they did because the point was, life would go on for these characters.
Mad respect for editing into the video the information on amnesia that demonstrates your voice over is ironically totally incorrect. Seriously-- takes a real man to both look up and then admit when he is wrong.
Especially for a critic, that generally dislikes almost everything. Its not often a person who is generally negative admits they are wrong
I always thought the last episode of Raymond was when his brother gets married.that would have been a way better episode to end on.
Great Video as always Vee! I loved the amnesia rant, which is true. For years tv has been lying to us that amnesia is losing our memories of a brief time and then boom! you got your memories back! Just like that! So...now that you're mentioning fuller house, are you gonna talk about it??? I've really didnt like that tv show but I really want to know what you thinks about it.
On TV they create happy endings
I never liked the series finale of Full House.
Family matters went down hill/jumped the shark when steve started wearing tommy hillfiger button ups…
It went downhill when Steve became the focus of every episode.
They just should have done a "Steve Urkel" spin off series and left "Family Matters" to be about the Winslow family.
“The humorless nature of this episode is striking, but I will say it’s compensated for by the sweet tone of the story” so nice he had to say it twice
I saw the Sopranos' ending before i saw anything else, so i thought it was some sorta mystery show to try and figure out who shot who. Then when i saw the season finale i thought "Huh, why didn't they show anything." only to find out i had basically watched it backwards
"Because my eyes work". That had me rolling.
Great vid, nice to see someone admit that they were wrong. However for these shows it seems that you forgot something, and that is that these shows are about people and the story of a person or family doesn’t end because we aren’t watching it continues on. I think the last three lines of Full House said it best: “We stuck it out and got through it. Like we always do. Like we always will.”
Michelle losing her memory was not a great way to end a show.
The final 2 seasons of The Office wasn't too bad, but the stars they tried to replace him Michael with, no matter how short, were just terrible. I think Angelo and Robert California was not the way the show should have went. I think they should have sold Dunder Mifflin back to David Wallace sooner and gotten rid of Rober California.
The full house ending was due to because they didn’t know it was gonna end until 2 minutes after they finished filming
Yep. Same was true for Family Matters.
Its painfully obvious that Steve Carrell was being paid by the word for the finale.
Union rules actually. They wanted to keep it secret.
Yeah, I was always surprised why people ehm… so positive about Office finale. Its satisfying to some extent but its not great and you raised a lot of good points.
Since Full House was an after school staple for me (Turner superstation originally then ABC family), I was really surprised by the finale being the finale. Full House wasn't a stranger to mid season 2 part episodes, so this just felt like any other episode.
That was definitely the worst series finale that I've ever seen.
People kinda what that comfy feeling their beloved characters just keep going and going as is.
In all honesty, Perfect Strangers was the ONLY Miller/Boyett TGIF show to ever get a proper finale that wasn't too far-fetched.
Also, Boy Meets World was the only TGIF show to ever get a proper finale.
Once Harriet was gone from Family Matters it was done..
The Office finale was really good.
The CBS year of family matters was rather painful.
I have personal experience with amnesia thanks to a TBI. I lost everything from 2-3 days before the car wreck and about a week while in the hospital. From what I was told they had to tell me every time I woke up that I was in hospital because of a car wreck. I retained my long term memories though. My aunt told me that when she was visiting they brought a therapy dog to see me and I guess the dog was a bigger one because my aunt says I looked right at her and said "he's like Homie". Homie is her dog Homers nickname.
It was during one those waking episodes that I tried to escape the hospital. I was told I destroyed the room in a panic and they found me walking down the hall using a crash cart to lean on. I don't remember any of that.
You know who stuck the landing?
Newhart.
Agreed!
I loved Family Matters when it was about The Winslow family and not about Steve Urkel.
The family matters finale seems like a fitting conclusion given how bizarre the show itself had gotten over the last couple seasons. I think the show itself made a big mistake by making Steve Urkel such a Central figure in the cast. The show was much better when he was just a side character. Then they let Judy go around the same time. Steve became a main cast member. The later seasons were pretty much unrecognizable from how the show started.
Yeah it's often times hard to stick the landing( the finale) on these long-lasting sitcoms. I guess M.A.S.H was one of the ones who did it the best.
I always thought Home Improvement had a weak Finale. Al gets married and Tim moves his entire house while Jill becomes a Psychologist? Seems like the ending should’ve had More Power!
I hate shows like Raymond, in the last few yrs (last one especially), have actors that are so RICH, they don't pull off the "middle class" they are supposed to be.
For the love of all that is holy...PLEASE use something other than the "Batman chin stroking" animation.
For Family Matters, I think they had the idea to do the space episode as an idea for the next season before learning they were going to be cancelled. Whoever came up with the idea was adamant about that being the finale. I think it should have been either the wedding (but that's not my first choice), having a big party for Eddie graduating (not bad but...), or Estelle and Fletcher showing up having to move in with the Winslows because insertreasonhere. Maybe they just missed being around family or they could have done something like their home had a temporary issue that was going to need to be repaired and would take a few months (maybe a storm tore some of the roof off and rain got inside, messing things up), something. Then have them move in and Rachel somehow move in. End it by saying that family would always be welcomed because family matters (cheesy but true). I would have done as little of Steve as possible. A couple of scenes like the planning for the wedding and a scene with Myra. It should focus on the family and sort of mirror the pilot. Bless Jaleel White for literally saving the show as a young teenager. I watched every episode when it first aired as a kid. Never missed one unless maybe there was a storm that knocked out the power (it was a long time ago). I have the entire series on DVD. I had the coloring book as a child for this show (yes, that does exist). My brother had an Urkel doll. We loved that show as a family. Anyway, it really wasn't Jaleel's fault that his character turned into a caricature of itself. Some scenes, watching them again, make me think SNL would have come up with that as a skit. The NASA thing included. That was the writers not being reigned in. He was so talented at comedy at such a young age, probably one of the most gifted comedic child actors to have ever lived. The writers figured out his talents and just went overboard with it. I tend to visit the first 4-5 seasons more than the latter ones, personally.
Tl;DR
Knight Rider. I was 5 when I came to the US in 87 and it had already aired, so I caught reruns here and there without knowing what was going on, and it wasn't until it ran on USA in order that I realized that I had seen the last episode "Voodoo Knight" many times by that point, but nothing indicates it's the series finale, I always thought the last episode was the one where his wife died as it makes sense and when I finally got the internet in late '95 that I found out was originally intended to be.
I’ll tell you why Everybody Loves Raymond had a low-key season finale - Seinfeld. Seinfeld’s season finale was so hyped but when people saw it, they HATED it! It’s still regarded as a failure to finish a show so much so that the cast CONSTANTLY makes jokes about it. Since Raymond’s fanbase included a lot of Seinfeld fans, I’m sure Phil Rosenthal and the writers decided to just keep the last episode simple and not make a big deal out of it. I remember it being a perfectly serviceable last episode, but I haven’t seen it in a while.
If Ray got his tonsils out..wouldn't everybody get ice-cream..
Whatever ending comes, I will be glad when the Simpsons is finally taken off the air and same with ncis because they’ve been in a death spiral for years.
The weird thing is that Harriot was the reason why Family matters existed. It was because of her that the show was made, so it was nice that she stayed on as long as she did but wtf....you don't change the actors, you just get rid of them....like Urkel being gone, we could just have normal episodes without Harriot
Urkel was cool and he was why I watched. But it was the whole family that made him so special...not because he was cool by himself, he wasn't. I completely blanked the last season because of it, way to make something and then kill it before it could be put to rest as a success.
I don't have conversations about show endings....I don't talk to anyone about tv...its fake and entertainment. When I don't need to be entertained, I would rather have conversations about MUCH meaningful stuff. But...you say every ending is the worst then you say genuinely think this is the worst? You know how to take any credit you had away. You're always gonna say this is the worst and one day you will say you genuinely think this is the worst...so now I instead of take it with a grain of salt, all I have is the grain of salt. Saying everything is the worst is terrible business model that basically reduces your opinion to "likes and ums" so...I really don't know how people can watch more than one video without going this kid is nuts
In marketing, worst/best isn't the top. Beer freezes at the same temperature. So Every liquor store in town can say they have "the coldest beer in town" by keeping it 1 degree above freezing. You can't say it's colder unless you can actually prove it.
So in a marketing/legal sense. Worse is worse than worst.
ok but i like that dwight got what he wanted since episode 1
Some shows think they are getting a final season but doesn't (ex. MARRIED WITH CHILDREN), Some get a movie finale (ex. DEAD LIKE ME) and some get a proper finale (ex. HOME IMPROVEMENT)
I loved dead like me. I wanted more with crystal.
I never watched Raymond nor the ending episode but the way you talk about it makes me think its a great ending for a sitcom. We just stop watching them but it implies the show keeps going as it always has. Every other sit com has some big stupid dramatic resolution to all the arcs, they move, they get together, they go to jail, some big final send off that I think is a terrible thing to do to a sitcom which is meant to be something comfortable and dependable, like its always the same, these characters are always there living their lives like they do every week. Ending all of that just to end the show betrays the essence of it.
Mister Belvedere got a 1 hour special to close out the show yet Full House got no respect. The show was garbage but the fans deserved better. Never forget that up until streaming changed things, your favorite shows only existed as a vehicle to get you from one commercial break to the next.
Steve Carrell asked to not have many lines in the finale cause he hadn’t been a part of the show for a long time and didn’t want the episode to be about him. which is dumb, but that’s why he wasn’t in it much
He also didn't want to be credited. It was intended to be a surprise, with Steve denying that he'd appear in the finale
Quantum Leap had a horrible finale too cause it got cancelled on a cliffhanger
The things they had planned for further seasons didnt sound too promising...
RIP the Office if they reboot it for modern audiences
Australia are doing an all-female version, apparently.
"modern audience" Buddy, it's the same audience. What the fuck are you talking about?
Not only have I caught series finales without realizing I was watching the finale, but Everybody Loves Raymond was one of them!
I had no idea that the series finale of Everybody Loves Raymond was the tonsils episode until today. After googling it, the premise basically was that the show-runner had the idea that since every other series finale ended with a breakup or someone moving away, that Raymond wouldn’t do that. The family would just keep going. It started in the middle and would end in the middle essentially.
i always thought the two and a half men final episode was very disappointing it was just kind of stupid. having a piano fall on top of charlie to me just wasn't a good way for it to go out
"The first ever student astronaut..."
Hopefully it went better than the first ever teacher astronaut.
I'll keep waiting on the SLOAT finale, and AD- not S3, but S5, after all the Netflixing where everyone resets to first position... except for Buster, who's a murderer!
I've said it before, maybe even here, Oscar and Angela not stepping up for Kevin- as the only person in the office with the temerity to stand up to the philandering (state) Senator- was a missed character beat.
Also, with that in mind, there wasn't a good reason to fire Toby, and manager Dwight should have had more sense than to put a financially struggling small business on the hook for extended UI to pay a functional employee not to work as one of his first managerial actions.
They didn’t know the full house finale was the finale
I feel like I would love to just chat about tv shows with you and I liked the video! Andy was absolutely a train wreck for being a manager. I felt like they ruined his character. I get they needed a manager but dang man..I hated Andy by the end .
That being said I cried at the finale episode 😂. Oh and also I felt like the Toby and Pam dance where she said something about his feelings for her was so cringe 😂 why? Why do we have to relive the hand on the leg thing again?? Anyway, I love these! I hope you do more!
WAIT THAT WAS THE SERIES FINALE OF EVERYONE LOVES RAYMOND?! I saw that one like dozen of times growing up and legit thought it was just a normal bleh ep
The office had a good ending
When you started talking about finales that you didn't even realize was a finale I definitely expected you to talk about _Married with Children_ and/or _House of Cards_
The first episode I ever watched of the UK Office was the last episode. I just caught it on TV when it originally aired.
Them swapping Jo Marie for Judy Ann Elder is equivalent to them swapping Janet Hubert for Daphne Maxwell Reid. Both replacements were polar opposites of the originals and just unforgivable.
I still think The Office has one of the best series finales I've watched.
Agreed
Characters should have arks just like people do. If you're the same person after 9 full years in every way, you're stunted and dysfunctional. Like most TH-cam critics. "Why isn't Loki still a stunted, immature jackass like me?? I don't want to watch Loki anymore because he's more of a grown up than me now!" Well, grow up and catch up then. Stop saying these characters have to mess up their lives, too.
The finale to the Office felt like some Bizarro World concept.
I was a mega fan of the show. So to see such drastic characteristic changes, and to have the dynamics seem so unorganically flipped was jarring to say the least. It felt like I entered some Office parallel universe.
I didn't hate it. It really tried hard to be this heavily emotional and sympathetic send-off-- which I can appreciate. But it didn't capture the essence of what made the show great, either.
Probably doesn't count because it ended in a straight-to-video movie, but I always thought Continuum was a horribly blundered ending to Stargate SG-1.
The worst series finales of all time are Quantum Leap, The Sopranos and SEINFELD!!
Im sill upset with the "One On One" season finale
THAT was a disaster, after they already took away the main cast. Funny thing (for me, personally) is that I started the show by watching episodes of Season 5, not realizing how great the rest of the show was before then.
I always felt like the Disney ep was the series finally of Full House
I always felt like the Disney ep was the series finally of Family Matters