Intel ending support for Cryo Cooling technology after 14th Gen released was really strange. Happy to at least see EK bring it back. But might also mean we won't need such extreme measures anymore next generation. I made a comment about 6.5Ghz daily driver a while back and now it's finally possible.
This is a great result, but isn't the chip they gave you almost god-tier too? An SP of 119 is insane, and so is your VID table. Boost at 1.418v is crazy good, lowest I've ever seen was someone on OC forum with a 1.402 14900KF. Unless that's normal for 14900KS?
You've definitely been given a Golden Sample. My global SP is 103, with P Core SP of 117, E Core SP of 76 (which is what is reducing the global value) and MC SP of 86. That makes the P Cores and MC much better than my 13900K.
yep, my 14900ks is at 99sp. coming from a 110sp 13900ks I have buyers remorse in the back of my mind. However with my short days of running it, I have better luck with running my 7600 ddr5 over 8000. I just need a better cooling solution than this nzxt kraken elite 360 aio pretty soon. I hear that the tec2 cooler won't keep up if you run synthetic benchmarks like cinebench though?
Please create more Intel Core i9 14900KS overclocking videos! Also SkatterBencher, what is your opinion on overclocking Intel Meteor Lake and Lunar Lake in the future?
good to know it works with the tec intel made some snarky statement saying the tec software wouldn't support 14th gen because it was old ,glad to see they stfu and walked that shit back
PSA: Here's a tip for ALL of you interested. You're almost CERTAINLY not going to get a SP119 global 14900KS. The samples sold to newegg and retailers are anywhere from 96-103 Global SP average. These, unless you get a fucking GODBIN like this dude. are NO better than a 14900K and COMPLETE FUCKING WASTE OF $200
The actual settings are so silly lmao 69 on 2 cores, but if its above 10 degrees it drops 5 bins instantly. So when exactly will you ever see 69 being used?
I just got the cooler and EK seems to have messed up their downloads, the link for software now leads to a page that loads forever and doesn't seem to do anything. Do you have any alternative downloads for the software?
The download link seems to work here, but I also uploaded it to my blog in case the it disappears skatterbencher.com/wp-content/uploads/EK_Delta2_TEC_Integrated_Intel(R)Cryo_Cooling_TechnologyV1.0.zip
@@SkatterBencher Thanks for that! May I ask that, does the software still require a fan and a pump connected to the controller to enable Cryo mode? Or did they change it? Having the controller decide my pump and fan speed is inconvenient
I upgraded from a 10900k @ 5. 3ghz 4000 ram, same 4090. Almost no difference in 4k gaming. Probably should have waited this whole generation out. Except im not confident new first gen will go smoother than last first gen. 11900k. Kinda nice upgrading on the last gen.
Real SP119. I don't think I have the individual SP numbers, but they should be close to the picture of the SP121 I shared in the blog post: skatterbencher.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/SP121.jpg
I have a chiller pc runs -30c i have a old 12900ks at the moment was thinking of buying the 14900ks but do i just wait for 15th gen? i game and mostly arma3 and racing sims so single thread performance is most important. I tried some of your settings got another 200mh in game to 5.8ghz on 3 cores.
@MrHolozip I have no issues with 14900ks but I have no heat issues with my chiller. It's 1.5v 6.6ghz never crashing or weird stuff. I think the heat is the biggest problem with the 14900k If you can keep it cool and lower vcore max it will have less problems.
@@sean.d7171 yeah, I'm much happier with the KS. I use a 360mm AIO and still managed to degrade my K series in less than 6 months. I learned a lot about the CPU and its architecture in that time! I'm not pushing the KS at all really and for now am just running it at the stock 150W P1, 253W P2. It's definitely been a journey for me - and I wouldn't recommend it for anyone else. My bank balance would have been happier sticking with the 12900K for sure 🙂
I have no idea. I mentioned in the video that this was just a quick test so take the settings with a grain of salt. It was stable enough to run the benchmarks, but I didn't try any memory stability tests.
Here I am...with what looks like 2nd degraded 13900k once again with a severe undervolt, again, like first chip *TH-cam* Here is a video for you bro, of 7 ghz
«Thanks» intel for this god bin chip. But unfortunately, such chip is not sold in the store and, accordingly, none of the spectators will ever be able to buy such chip. May be for 3000-4000$ from some huckster))) but 99% users can use only stock 5900 on DD cooling)) well, 6000 with HT DISABLED. Anyway, gl with this chip, mb you can up 9.3-9.4 ghz with Elmor. I’m waiting, bro. I believe)))
I really like SkatterBencher and would like to see his channel grow but, come on, that SP 119 KS chip was totally given to him by Intel or something. I highly doubt he just happened to get that lucky from a normal public purchase/order.
No need to doubt, I can confirm it was indeed a chip preselected by the ASUS team for the 9.1 GHz Helium attempt. This was the "worst" out of three. Like I say at the beginning of the video, I had the opportunity to try it and so I just played around with it using the Cryo Cooling technology. Figured maybe others would also like to see the results I got, so made a quick video with the settings and some benchmarks :).
I have seen in wendels video that alder lake to raptor Lake has higher IPC than ryzen 7000 clock for clock so Intel is losing somewhere else, like cache, not ipc
@@nuke9918So why is it slower than current Ryzens in games and many other tasks? Don't say cache .. because cache alone does not make a CPU work fast, it just enables working faster because of lower waiting times- which enable processing more commands in a given time again xD
@@elmariachi5133 X3D is faster in SOME games due to cache. More instructions can be feed faster to the cores. Less clock cycles wasted doing nothing waiting for data to come from RAM. Latency matters a lot in some games. In others not so much. infact properly tuned Intel processors can match or exceed X3D chips in games with some BIOS work with ram and ring bus OC.
@@nuke9918 What you said is what I think: 'More instructions can be feed faster to the cores.' So.. isn't this equivalent to higher IPC? Yes, latency is another fact, but like you I don't think it's too relevant..
Well, it's important to be honest and fair, ur saying the 14900ks (13900ksss) is slower "by alot" is just wrong. I think on average the 7800x3d is indeed faster but only by a few percentage points, in other words on average theyre identical. Now for powerdraw, dont compare cpu stock tdps for power comparision, thats not how it works and it makes u appear ignorant about this topic. But ur right, the 13900ksss uses like 2 to 2.5 times the power in gaming compared to the 7800x3d xD. Now, were all tuners here right? At max oc the 14900ks is faster than a 7800x3d max "oc". Not by a lot but it is.
@@branchprediction9923well there is a couple of things to keep in mind, the 7800x3d cannot really overclock much as there is a trade off in having 3d cache. Interestingly enough AMD may be able to take advantage in the future of intels back power delivery, as delivering power from the bottom would reduce the oc constaints of having vertical stacked 3d cache, so we may end up having in the not so distant future 3d cached chips that can oc decently. That said to throw an honest bone to intel, the comparison of the 7800x3d and the k variants of intel chips is not really "fair". Fully unlocked cpus are always going to consume more power. Even the AMD equivalents to intel K type of cpus consume considerable more power than the 7800x3d, as that is just a reality of having unlocked multipliers. And pushing higher mhzs implies an exponentially higher amount of power usage. to go from 5ghz to 5.5 a 7800x3d would need a tdp of around 180 watts,(what means an almost 50%increase) then another 20 watts to reach 5.6,.another 30 to get to 5.7 and at that point the tdp of the 7800x3d would be above 230 watts (the 7950x needs that )so around the same ball park as the 14900K.
Everything besides gaming the advantage goes to the 14900KS and the 14900K, and gaming performance for Raptor Lake is directly equivalent to Ryzen 7000, hardly noticeable for the average consumer spending equivalent money on either AMD or Intel.
not true, 7800X3D at 5.4 GHz is literally equal to 13900K @ 6.2 paired with DDR5-8000 in games on average. 14900KS @ 6.5 will beat it. It is the fastest gaming CPU money can buy right. Is few % in gaming worth it ? Of course not, but still it is the fastest CPU
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Intel ending support for Cryo Cooling technology after 14th Gen released was really strange. Happy to at least see EK bring it back.
But might also mean we won't need such extreme measures anymore next generation.
I made a comment about 6.5Ghz daily driver a while back and now it's finally possible.
This is a great result, but isn't the chip they gave you almost god-tier too? An SP of 119 is insane, and so is your VID table. Boost at 1.418v is crazy good, lowest I've ever seen was someone on OC forum with a 1.402 14900KF. Unless that's normal for 14900KS?
My 2.6 ghz processor is instant. No delays, nor bottlenecks. At 7 ghz, I beleive I could watch these videos before they're posted.
Absolut amazing. I also have the 14900KS ... you just have to know, how to handle this beast and you get the magic out of him.
You've definitely been given a Golden Sample. My global SP is 103, with P Core SP of 117, E Core SP of 76 (which is what is reducing the global value) and MC SP of 86. That makes the P Cores and MC much better than my 13900K.
This chip was one of the three ASUS pre-selected for the Helium frequency record. So definitely a golden sample!
Global sp of 119 😮😮
That's a vary binned CPU
Most ppl will get so 98-110
The best I've seen is 121SP, I think
@@SkatterBencher golden of gold sample 😏
yep, my 14900ks is at 99sp. coming from a 110sp 13900ks I have buyers remorse in the back of my mind. However with my short days of running it, I have better luck with running my 7600 ddr5 over 8000. I just need a better cooling solution than this nzxt kraken elite 360 aio pretty soon. I hear that the tec2 cooler won't keep up if you run synthetic benchmarks like cinebench though?
@@evo9rs damn 😳
could you ask for a exchange / replacment ?
I exchanged my 13900 ks till I got asp 124
you deserve a good bin 😃
@arel77 I bought it from Amazon so I could keep returning it 😆
Please create more Intel Core i9 14900KS overclocking videos! Also SkatterBencher, what is your opinion on overclocking Intel Meteor Lake and Lunar Lake in the future?
Utterly legendary!!!
you make it look so easy lol. i cant even get my 13900kf to work with tvb very well.
6.9 Ghz. Nice :p
mine after buying it from microcenter actually runs at 6.942ghz for idle
you use powerplant for powersuply and north pool for cooling
Trully a masterpiece💪
Intel cranked up their insanity level even more😂
good to know it works with the tec intel made some snarky statement saying the tec software wouldn't support 14th gen because it was old ,glad to see they stfu and walked that shit back
Cool. This is great for minecraft servers
If i could find someone in az to install on my system that be amazing
PSA: Here's a tip for ALL of you interested. You're almost CERTAINLY not going to get a SP119 global 14900KS. The samples sold to newegg and retailers are anywhere from 96-103 Global SP average. These, unless you get a fucking GODBIN like this dude. are NO better than a 14900K and COMPLETE FUCKING WASTE OF $200
My thoughts exactly
But does it maintain the temp at 10° when a core is in use? Or is this actually just a 6.4 max usable
The 6.9G is more for show since the cores heat up to ~50C even in single threaded workloads
The actual settings are so silly lmao
69 on 2 cores, but if its above 10 degrees it drops 5 bins instantly.
So when exactly will you ever see 69 being used?
I just got the cooler and EK seems to have messed up their downloads, the link for software now leads to a page that loads forever and doesn't seem to do anything. Do you have any alternative downloads for the software?
The download link seems to work here, but I also uploaded it to my blog in case the it disappears skatterbencher.com/wp-content/uploads/EK_Delta2_TEC_Integrated_Intel(R)Cryo_Cooling_TechnologyV1.0.zip
@@SkatterBencher Thanks for that! May I ask that, does the software still require a fan and a pump connected to the controller to enable Cryo mode? Or did they change it? Having the controller decide my pump and fan speed is inconvenient
I upgraded from a 10900k @ 5. 3ghz 4000 ram, same 4090. Almost no difference in 4k gaming. Probably should have waited this whole generation out. Except im not confident new first gen will go smoother than last first gen. 11900k. Kinda nice upgrading on the last gen.
Чувак это было супер !🎉
loadline @ 1.1 mohm @ 7 ? try ?
where do they have it?
Great
Is it the real sp global sp119? Or bug?
What are your pcores and ecores sp's please ?
Real SP119.
I don't think I have the individual SP numbers, but they should be close to the picture of the SP121 I shared in the blog post: skatterbencher.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/SP121.jpg
I just want to see how if he can overclock a "normal" KS to 7Ghz. Not this 119 SP, maybe 101~103 SP
Must be an extreme overclock run.....
It's with an EK Delta2 TEC and the Cryo Cooling technology
I have a chiller pc runs -30c i have a old 12900ks at the moment was thinking of buying the 14900ks but do i just wait for 15th gen? i game and mostly arma3 and racing sims so single thread performance is most important. I tried some of your settings got another 200mh in game to 5.8ghz on 3 cores.
wait for 15900k
Wait, I made the mistake of going to a 14900K and then a 14900KS from a 12900K - nothing but problems and instability
@MrHolozip I have no issues with 14900ks but I have no heat issues with my chiller. It's 1.5v 6.6ghz never crashing or weird stuff. I think the heat is the biggest problem with the 14900k If you can keep it cool and lower vcore max it will have less problems.
@@sean.d7171 yeah, I'm much happier with the KS. I use a 360mm AIO and still managed to degrade my K series in less than 6 months. I learned a lot about the CPU and its architecture in that time!
I'm not pushing the KS at all really and for now am just running it at the stock 150W P1, 253W P2.
It's definitely been a journey for me - and I wouldn't recommend it for anyone else. My bank balance would have been happier sticking with the 12900K for sure 🙂
Would love to see this cooler on 7800X3D
I think it would be perfect for the 7800X3D since that cpu draws so little power. Should be easy to hold very high clocks.
The 7800X3D does not scale upwards as nice as Intel does for better and for worse.
SP=119 I've never seen such a high SP in the dozen I tried at most 114, with a 119 it's too easy
nice
are those ram speeds stable?
I have no idea. I mentioned in the video that this was just a quick test so take the settings with a grain of salt. It was stable enough to run the benchmarks, but I didn't try any memory stability tests.
@@SkatterBencher just curious, impressive nonetheless. Cheers!
Try, all core sync 70, set specific core to best ratio..down clocked...6x...win
69x 😌
'I don't consider this a fully stable system, so don't go ahead and copy them to your 14900ks' *immediately copies them*
🤣
Ok, now let's see 14900ks go beyond 9.1 on ln2 or liquid helium 👀
You're in luck! th-cam.com/video/vyJ56npe37I/w-d-xo.html
First One.🔥👍
You did your best
@@MrEdioss i mean not me (First One) but Skatterbencher First One 14900KS OC VIideo of the TH-cam.💥
Nice work !
send those memory sticks and board to BZ, they're arguably more impressive than the CPU. Unless its all due to the cpu in which case..
Here I am...with what looks like 2nd degraded 13900k once again with a severe undervolt, again, like first chip
*TH-cam* Here is a video for you bro, of 7 ghz
«Thanks» intel for this god bin chip. But unfortunately, such chip is not sold in the store and, accordingly, none of the spectators will ever be able to buy such chip. May be for 3000-4000$ from some huckster))) but 99% users can use only stock 5900 on DD cooling)) well, 6000 with HT DISABLED. Anyway, gl with this chip, mb you can up 9.3-9.4 ghz with Elmor. I’m waiting, bro. I believe)))
I really like SkatterBencher and would like to see his channel grow but, come on, that SP 119 KS chip was totally given to him by Intel or something. I highly doubt he just happened to get that lucky from a normal public purchase/order.
No need to doubt, I can confirm it was indeed a chip preselected by the ASUS team for the 9.1 GHz Helium attempt. This was the "worst" out of three.
Like I say at the beginning of the video, I had the opportunity to try it and so I just played around with it using the Cryo Cooling technology. Figured maybe others would also like to see the results I got, so made a quick video with the settings and some benchmarks :).
which batch?
@@hanskibg8721 L346F489. But the second one from this batch was a piece of shit with 1.5+ v/f curve. So that i can say - it’s full random and luck
@@SkatterBencher Awesome! Your openeess and honesty is much appreciated. I love your vids!
"6.9 GHz"
Nice
It's clickbait video 6.2 ghz 12:53
LN2................
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Nice marketing!
Monster Core i9 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Insane power usage because of trying to compensate for bad IPC. Reminds of Pentium 4 times.
I have seen in wendels video that alder lake to raptor Lake has higher IPC than ryzen 7000 clock for clock
so Intel is losing somewhere else, like cache, not ipc
Literally raptor cove has the highest IPC of X86 architectures. In single core speeds there is no contest on what is the fastest chip
@@nuke9918So why is it slower than current Ryzens in games and many other tasks? Don't say cache .. because cache alone does not make a CPU work fast, it just enables working faster because of lower waiting times- which enable processing more commands in a given time again xD
@@elmariachi5133 X3D is faster in SOME games due to cache. More instructions can be feed faster to the cores. Less clock cycles wasted doing nothing waiting for data to come from RAM. Latency matters a lot in some games.
In others not so much. infact properly tuned Intel processors can match or exceed X3D chips in games with some BIOS work with ram and ring bus OC.
@@nuke9918 What you said is what I think: 'More instructions can be feed faster to the cores.' So.. isn't this equivalent to higher IPC?
Yes, latency is another fact, but like you I don't think it's too relevant..
intel is a joke 14900ks slower vs 7800x3d in gaming by alot tdp 240 watt vs 50 watt..
Well, it's important to be honest and fair, ur saying the 14900ks (13900ksss) is slower "by alot" is just wrong.
I think on average the 7800x3d is indeed faster but only by a few percentage points, in other words on average theyre identical.
Now for powerdraw, dont compare cpu stock tdps for power comparision, thats not how it works and it makes u appear ignorant about this topic.
But ur right, the 13900ksss uses like 2 to 2.5 times the power in gaming compared to the 7800x3d xD.
Now, were all tuners here right? At max oc the 14900ks is faster than a 7800x3d max "oc". Not by a lot but it is.
@@branchprediction9923well there is a couple of things to keep in mind, the 7800x3d cannot really overclock much as there is a trade off in having 3d cache. Interestingly enough AMD may be able to take advantage in the future of intels back power delivery, as delivering power from the bottom would reduce the oc constaints of having vertical stacked 3d cache, so we may end up having in the not so distant future 3d cached chips that can oc decently.
That said to throw an honest bone to intel, the comparison of the 7800x3d and the k variants of intel chips is not really "fair". Fully unlocked cpus are always going to consume more power. Even the AMD equivalents to intel K type of cpus consume considerable more power than the 7800x3d, as that is just a reality of having unlocked multipliers. And pushing higher mhzs implies an exponentially higher amount of power usage. to go from 5ghz to 5.5 a 7800x3d would need a tdp of around 180 watts,(what means an almost 50%increase) then another 20 watts to reach 5.6,.another 30 to get to 5.7 and at that point the tdp of the 7800x3d would be above 230 watts (the 7950x needs that )so around the same ball park as the 14900K.
Everything besides gaming the advantage goes to the 14900KS and the 14900K, and gaming performance for Raptor Lake is directly equivalent to Ryzen 7000, hardly noticeable for the average consumer spending equivalent money on either AMD or Intel.
not true, 7800X3D at 5.4 GHz is literally equal to 13900K @ 6.2 paired with DDR5-8000 in games on average. 14900KS @ 6.5 will beat it. It is the fastest gaming CPU money can buy right. Is few % in gaming worth it ? Of course not, but still it is the fastest CPU