The thing with Guzzis is the engine, tested to their limits before they leave the factory on lake Como,like no other brand,that's what I love about them,the history still made in the same factory for over 100 years,so much character,I have two Guzzis,and never had any negative comments about them like you get with other brands, because they respect the history and most of all the engineering,says it all
After 5 years of owning the V7iii, this little bike was a real trouble free. Used it daily like a Honda cup and took 1600 km 2 days trip easily. I was so proud of owning my V7iii.
Like Triumph and Harley Davidson, there's a lot to love about a legendary motorcycle manufacturer that continues to make character a priority. Bravo Motto Guzzi.
The thing about all Guzzi models is once you start revving them out, you can certainly feel the racing heritage built into each one. Guzzis love to be revved and love to be driven spiritedly. Definitely don’t need to baby these bikes and they reward you for having some fun. Gorgeous bikes and gorgeous exhaust notes, especially with a set of Lafranconi or Mistral pipes. Guzzi’s here in the States have often been ridden by older people (respectfully) or connoisseur types, but I think the brand is getting more attention by younger riders and becoming more popular. I have a V7 Classic and one part of me loves having Guzzi to myself with never seeing another on the road. Another part of me loves they’re growing and being enjoyed by more people. Great review and fantastic footage!
I bought the 850 stone about one month ago, and while I agree about the dials, I got used to the digital gauge. Ideally I would love the stone with that headlight and darker scheme but with the twin clocks. Oh well! Having owned both a Bonneville (865 air cooled) and recently RE Continental GT 650, I’d have to say Guzzi takes the crown!
At age 77 & 5ft 8”, I needed a smaller bike, but still wanted to tour long distances. Last year I rode a factory V 7 from Italy to NordKapp , back through Finland, the Baltics etc and over Stelvio to Mandello. Despite some 800 km days, I was always comfortable in that seat. From that experience, home in Tasmania I have modified my V7 Stone with a rear rack, soft panniers, crash bar, small screen, heated grips, throttle lock and bark busters. For one-up touring it’s perfectly adequate and quite competent in gravel with stock tyres. I think the offset binnacle is that way for a reason. It allows a GPS and go pro to be mounted on the bars while still being able to read the speedo. With the screen the offset is hardly noticeable. I do agree that the front mudguard is useless in the dirt. Overall, it’s the best bike I have ever owned. I have put 20,000 km on it in just over a year.
The cheap, plastic digital dial is truly an own goal by Guzzi - a decision that could only have ever been made with profit margins in mind. The special variant is the bike they should have solely produced in 2-3 different colouring options. I appreciate the back to back videos on the v7s lads, great content.
That’s the only thing that puts me off the classic 350, that dial surround it’s not round it’s not square not oval not elliptical it’s as if they were trying to create the most clash of shapes possible. I was waiting for the new bullet, and would you believe it.
As a huge Guzzi fan ....I can only agree with your great review....its all about the ride idid have a v7 and wish I had bought the special just for those clocks ! ...great bike though
I've a 2019 V7III Stone. I has an analog speedo, no tach. I owned a 1974? LAPD 1000 convert, and a 1982? Ambassador. It is impressive what steady improvement, a refinement process for 67years of continuous manufacturing of the same model has yeilded. The last of the 750 V7's are amazing. I love mine.
I went for the special for the very same reasons, spoke wheels analog clocks and chrome exhaust. I’ve had mine since 2022 but only started riding it this year after a knee replacement. Can’t wait for the summer 👍🏻
As a biker who also used to ride horses for a living, many years ago, I entirely agree with you about the character and the sole of the V7. It's a real motorcycle that I never tire of looking at and gliding around country lanes on. I agree with you about the clocks but didn't want chrome and spokes. Spent enough time polishing brass and cleaning tack.😊
Have to say, that silver edition looks far better in real life footage than it does in the computer graphic images on Guzzi's (very annoying) website and it's the one I'd buy on looks over the one Darcy reviewed. It's a great looking bike and definitely one I would consider buying as a back road explorer. Guzzi would do well to put more of their bikes your way because they deserve a much higher profile. Guzzis fly under the radar and more people should try one. I wish they still made the 1400 California Custom. If you can't afford a Bonneville and aren't keen on the Enfields these little Guzzis are in a class of one for quality and value. So nice to see them getting a boost. Get your money out Darcy.
My golly, that bike is possibly the most beautiful I have seen in a long while. Air cooled shaft drive and such elegance. It must have been like flying a biplane in the early days of air travel 🖤 I'm a lifelong Kawasaki devotee but honestly I'd consider one of these ☠️
My feelings exactly. The website NEVER does them justice. I see them in person and I'm always dropping my jaw at their beauty. They should hire a better photographer and graphic designer for their website haha
My last 4 bikes have been guzzis, and I still hold 2. First was a v9 Roamer along with a 1400 California Eldorado. Sold them and moved to the first v7 850 special. Initially had some fueling issues, but subsequent updates from Guzzi sorted it, although upmap product also addresses. Dropped a set of mistral longs along with a dna filter and the bike certainly feels livelier. Very much a keeper. Also running a 22 v85TT travel, and also love rid8ng that. I read somewhere that 10 mins on a Guzzi you will hate it, 10 hours and you won’t want another bike. That is very true.
It’s the first bike I’ve ever bought without seeing it in person, or test riding. My heart just told me it was the perfect bike for me at this stage in my life. Thankfully, I was right. Three months in, and I love it. Added some Agostini pipes, and I love it even more! My last bike was a Triumph T120, I don’t miss the extra hp, and I just adore the character of the Guzzi!
Very nice review, maybe I'm the odd one out but i like the digital single clock over the twin dials, being offset it leaves room for my tom tom without blocking any view. The flat spot will disappear after the run-in service, there was also a software update for dealers to install. Stick a pair of the mistral short slip ons and it sounds as it should, ive also put mg bar end mirrors on mine, much better rear view from them. Added a dart marlin short screen, which works well and looks good. For anyone wondering about its capabilities they are excellent, we toured france two up with luggage last year and it never missed a beat, the 21lt fuel tank is great, i just fill up about the 180 mile mark, thats only my ocd though 😅.
I own a V100S Mandello, and missed the basic mechanics of my 1992 R100RT I sold to get the Mandello that I bought a V7 STONE 850 TEN. To say that MG should just make "one" classic version is nonesense. The offset digital dash is fine and gives you everything you really need. Want GPS? Add it to the right on the handlbars and it doesn't block the dash. That's smart, not dumb. Gas gauge? 52 MPG so fill up around 180-200 miles. My 1979 CB750F had loads of plastic on it. No one complained about that did they? Why, just because it says Moto Guzze we pan plastics? ALL new bikes are loaded with the stuff. Enough on plastics (the TEN model has metal on the intake runners, that were plastic). Does this bike work, though? Outside of, to me, drop dead gorgeous lines, it is a joy to ride. A proper compromise on the suspension for 98% of the road except those back-shot potholes. The V7's new suspension rides BETTER than my V100S on tour mode with $$$ Ohlins! OK, the V100S can take the big PUNCH from a big pot-hole better but the real world balance is worse. The seating position for my 5'10" 140 pound frame is perfect. Yes, perfect. No changes to anything. Your feet are slightly farther forward to uncramp the knees. The V100S puts you feet more under you, and knees bent so you need to stand and unwind every hour or so. I also had to add bar risers to the V100S, too low and forward for long rides for me. Not so on the V7, just keep motoring along. Fantastic range comfort. The V7's seat is better too, it allows more movement where the V100S locks you in place. The claim about classic style MG seats is true, they are far better than most. I wish it had a cruise, as it has the anti-lock brake circuits that cruise uses but, the throttle is nice and light. Gentle pressure from your hand holds you steady at 4K RPM and each gear is hitting the sweet spot for speed and low vibration. I've gone three hours on it no problem. The engine is plenty powerful for sane stuff on the street. 52-54 MPG and a wonderful rumble at stops. When running at speed you hear a turbine like smoothness that is atypical for a twin. The rumble seems to be reserved for lower RPM with the ARROW exhausts. power if really flexible with the two-valve hemi-head. 1,2 or 3rd through ninety degree commuter corners. Take your pick. All that changes is exit speed drive. The engine never complains or knocks. Handling is more steady, and not hyper sensitive like the V100S that has a always want to be moving given the chance. The V7 holds a line, but takes more thought to change it. It isn't stuck there, it just isn't obnoxiously twitchy. The shaft drive is back there, it never rears it's head or the rear suspenson under throttle like the R100RT's did, locking it near solid under acceleration. The V7 allows a compliance over bumps under throttle that is nice. The transmission is odd for an Italian big twin. It is a shorter throw shift drum than you expect, by a LOT. It needs the dry clutch adjusted right (maybe 80-mils so at the pivot point) to shift smoothly but once that's done, it shifts real nice and has a great pull through the gears that is real work enjoyable. New it is tight, though. But this is a big twin, not a race bike. The transmission works perfectly fine to the bikes mission. I never missed a shift. Shifts to first are QUIET from neutral and neutral is easy to find with touring boots. OK, the brake front brake. It is currently designed to give a sopow real progressive brake feel. But, I don't like that, I want 80% of the brakes at 20% of the lever pressure. The problem isn't the disc or calipers...they can lock-up the wheel fine and anti-lock kicks in. More rotors and calipers won't help after the wheel is at the traction limits. What works, is to chnge the pads the EBC FA244HH sintered copper versions. Now the initial bite is much stronger sooner. Forty-five bucks is all you need to fix the brakes. To me this is one of the last great standard out there. Before all liquid cooling and such are endemic to the breed and erase the brands true character, I grabbed one. I have a V100S for starship level motorcycles.
They’re also made in Italy in Mandello del Lario since 1921. It’s a beautiful machine with a simple air cooled engine, that doesn’t make you clean an oily chain every month. It’s fast enough, vibes a lot but only with good low frequency vibes, has decent brakes, no fuel gauge, a hilariously slow gear indicator, good fuel consumption, beautiful sound (stock pipes are too silent), traction control with 2 modes, and decent led headlight (not the Speciale version). People say its super easy to work on but I’ve never tried it. Valve clearance is a breeze, will give it a go. Piaggio are difficult to deal with if you buy a lemon. Glad you guys love the bike. I have the yellow colour and I adore it.
Thanks for the real world review, it helped me make a decision. Just put down a deposit on a Stone Ten, after taking the Stone Special for a test ride. Loved the way it rides, and that sound! Fender extender is on the shopping list. I can live with the digital clock, but it'll probably get a small screen to hide it away, or maybe the Corsa fairing with a custom spray job to tie in with the tank.
I find your priorities in bikes so refreshing. Very similar to mine. I rode a BMW R100RS for 100k miles in the 80's and think this V7 might be the closest thing I'll ever find to matching it in the way it made me feel. Great review!
I had two BMWs in the 70s/80s and yes, this Guzzi is very evocative of those great bikes. The bonus being the Guzzi is a better in almost every way measurable
Just bought one this weekend. Thanks for your great reviews and greetings from eastern Germany. Did not know what character of a motorcycle means until i made a testride which i really enjoyed.
I own a v7iii (750cc model), for much of the reasons you've mentioned in your review. I have to say, allot of reviews seem to apply some sort of unconscious bias against the Moto Guzzi's, but yours and Darcy's are refreshing and reflect my views on owning the bike. I really like the white/red/chrome version of the special that Darcy rode. Fair play lads, keep it up!
I bought a V7 850 Special in Formale Blue last March. I looked at all the options for a Modern Classic and this bike was an easy choice for me. I considered the other versions of this bike but the twin clocks, chrome, and wire wheels of the Special are just too beautiful. Stand out features for me over the other bikes the Guzzi competes with in this market include the very low maintenance of shaft drive and super easy valve adjustments. The front brake is another plus being a four pot Brembo with great power and feel. Large fuel tank and great ergonomics for my 5' 9" frame round it out. Thanks 'Ol Man for the enthusiastic review!
As I commented on your son's review: "can't wait to see what your dad thinks about Guzzi's" and here you are Sir! I remember you doing a video about a year ago where you said it was extremely difficult to get one of these bikes and to do a decent review, so glad you found someone who could provide you the experience. You definitly have a point about the dial and the mudguard. I had the V7 Stone (2017 model) and switched to the V85 TT for more comfort on longer rides. For me there's no turning back, Guzzista per sempre! (Guzzi rider till' I die) Thanks for the excellent reviews and I hope one of you 2 buys the Special ;-) grtz from Belgium
Loving my 2022 850 V7 Special in Blue. Your review is right on target. The bike really comes alive over 3K RPM. It feels great in the city and hitting the sweeping curves on the Toll Road at 75 MPH/120 KPH. One feature I wish Guzzi would add is cruise control for long Texas road trips, also heated grips. I ride more in the winter here.
Perfect review of this bike. As a 48 yr on the road biker enthusiast I totally get this bike & review. And this bike like my HD 1200 sporty is exactly like riding the Brit bikes I owned in my youth but with far far less maintenance and much better performance. Having said that this bike has the same power & torque figures as my old Norton Commando 850 mk 3 but with a lighter crank & higher compression is much more sporty and rev happy. I only buy bikes I can service & fix myself. I bought the V7 Stone special edition gloss blk & its just a great fun sweet ride terrific allrounder. Spot on review covered all the relevant points and I agree with them all
Just bought one , love it cannot wait to ride it after my new knee just few more weeks till I'm better then I'm off. Love the clock, it don't bother me or I would have bought the other model. Everything in this bike is perfectly done, shaft drive is hidden , you wouldn't know where it was. Your video on this bike has been one of the best I have watched. Many thanks , Gary
This millennial greatly prefers the gauges on the special as well as the spoke wheels. The stone does have a feel all it's own that I also really like. I think a V7 might be a part of my life in the coming years.
So glad you finally got to review the V7, and understood the Guzzi experience. When you mention character, people automatically think it's an excuse for clunky gearbox and vibrating engine, this couldn't be further from the truth, what it actually is is a bike that makes you feel alive. Like you said it's talking to you, giving you feedback, basically it has a sole, something sadly missing from most modern motorcycles. I love Moto Guzzi, I've owned a Bellagio for the past 16 years and genuinely will never sell it, I've put a V7 tank and seat on it so it looks similar to the V7 special as it has spoked wheels. It also has a bit more BHP at 75 which is something I feel Moto Guzzi failed on with the current V7 850. Why did they give the V85TT 80bhp and the V7 only got 65? I think if they had given it a bit more horse power it would of been an even bigger seller for them. Even if they offered it in both 65 and 80bhp and let the customer decide, I'm sure the majority would go for the 80bhp version if the price wasn't too much more expensive. Anyone who has ever owned a Guzzi will always want to come and look and have a chat about your Guzzi, they are the friendliest people you could ever meet, and everyone else will just come over because your bike just looks beautiful. Who wouldn't want to own a Moto Guzzi?
Yes, I own a V100S Mandello and a V7 850 STONE TEN. I think I can speak from both ends of the market. I like the Mandello for it's spaceship modern qualities, but the V7 TEN has a draw that is far more emotional and involved. I ride the V7 and the V100S rides me, it is that simple. The V100S is a pure tool of riding perfection and reminds you that you aren't at every opportunity! I've never been for want of more power real world and the V7 is just so flexible to your riding style. thrash it, or torque it easy. The V7 doesn't care or will rat you out. You can put how YOU want to ride into the bike and it accepts it.
I have a 2022 V7 Special. I never considered the Stone. The Special is such a beautiful machine and I love the 70's vibe the Special gives off. The V7 is a joy to ride, not the best at anything but good at everything. As an older rider I like the lighter weight of a mid-size bike for moving around in my garage or parking space and the V7 has many of the great characteristics of a Harley or classic BMW, pushrod motor, V or horizontal twin, industrial gearbox, shaft or belt drive. I'd highly recommend a V7 to anyone, but especially to older riders looking to downsize to a more manageable machine without giving up the things that make motorcycling great. Love the review and I'm glad you like these fine machines!
So happy you finally reviewedthis bike: I bought a 23 special earlier this year. Love the bike and for the money the quality is fantastic. I already have a Harley Breakout and looked at buying a V7, Triumph, HD Sportster and Ducati Monster/Scramblers also. V7 to me is the best bike for the money and will be a great bike to own longterm. Add some nice lightweight pipes and a small screen and its perfect.
Thanks for your perseverance in finally acquiring a Guzzi and making this lovely review. I’ve been following your channel for some time and thoroughly enjoy them. I purchased a V7 Stone Special Edition this year. It is the black metal flake model with red shock coils and red tank striping. I selected this over a white V7 Special with spoke wheels and the analog instrument cluster. Like you, I much prefer the analog gauges to the offset digital gauge. However, I prefer the lower maintenance and tubeless running of the alloy wheels. Ultimately, I chose my Special Edition over the Special because I preferred its more racy details. On another day I could just as easily gone the other way. I agree with everything you say about this wonderful machine. It exhibits so much character in all aspects. Truly a special machine.
I would take the Stone every day of the week personally. I'm OK with the LCD and don't like wire wheels much. I can see the attraction with the special though so let's agree it's great to have the choice
As far as Italian bikes, I have owned a ducati 860, moto morini 500 camel, laverda 3cl 1000, cagiva 650, and currently have a 1989 Moto Guzzi Mille GT 1000 and a 2013 Moto Guzzi Stone 750. Have owned several German bikes to include BMW and Zundaps. Grew up with British bikes--meaning Triumph and BSA. Have never been interested in Harley. Owned several Suzuki's to include 2-stroke models and the Wankel rotary 750. The Moto Guzzis have been my favorite above all the rest. Quirky, reliable, tractor-like in that the Japanese "refinement" is not there--but if you love just being connected to machinery and sound--Moto Guzzi!--mike battle
Totally agree with the seat.My Ducati Scrambler 400 is a different machine with it's flat bench seat with memory foam and 4 hours-comfy..This is a serious contender for an upgrade for me in future and the V twin engine and shaft drive are a massive benefit to longevity..love it.Thanks for the review.A real world bike for an Old's Cool Biker!!
I have a soft spot for all the modern classics. There really is something about the Guzzi that just feels right. Looks so good, a bit brutish, but refined. Like a fighter jet in an armani suit. My only reserve is being in the States, the need for a vehicle to comfortably maintain speeds in excess of 65/70 mph (105kph+). Would need to get my hands on a test ride and see how it feels. Love this bike.
It always amazes me why they don’t sell more of them. I think a test ride will convert many especially with this more powerfull unit. Nice one Wheels. Thanks for the support to a great channel.
It has taken us over four years to get one, perhaps that shows their lack of understanding of how motorcycles are sold to the public in 2023 (not Wheels obviously 👍🏼)
You guys have sparked my interest in the V7, so am going to test ride the bike. Personally, the digital instruments won't put me off if the rest of the bike is as good as you say. Would obviously get a fender extender!
@@MrDarcy-OlMan OK, been out for a test ride on a V7 Stone Special. Loved the engine, was a comfortable ride. Just found the handlebars a bit narrow and a very light front end. Need to try the V9 Bobber with the fat front tyre to see if this feels better.
I’ve owned 5 Guzzis in the past (not all at the same time😂) . 2 Monza’s, a Lario, a Le Mans , and a Breva. Lovely bikes, often misunderstood. They are full of character, make excellent tourers and sound great with race pipes. Love them and miss mine.
@@clockworkfrustrationthey're all pretty tame engines as long as you dont get a big block (griso). The only noticeable thing about them is their heft. They're quite heavy for what they are. My v7 850 weighs.. 480 pounds fully loaded? And only makes about 60hp lol. Dry clutch is a bit of a workout though, my hands get tired real quick using only two fingers in traffic.
@@clockworkfrustration Hi, yes the Breva 750 would make an excellent 1st Guzzi. The engine has easy torque and plenty of usable power, suitable for a beginner. They are well built and easy to maintain and can cruise all day at 70 mph (should you want) 👍🏻
Front mudguard is as you say "useless". If you get up a petition to send to Moto Guzzi I will sign it. For my sins I have both the '22 850 Special and the '22 Stone. I have a satnav on the centre right side of the handlebar and so the off set display is a massive bonus. On my Special I have the two dials but the engine vibration shakes their needle so much they are not as accurate as the single unit on the Stone. The Stone's display shows everything I need to know all in one place. I do not have any inclinations to OCD and offset displays do not upset me in the slightest. I do however empathise with those who are cursed with OCD and feel the need to everything in order and symetric. Keep up the excellant reviews.
Ah Josef Suk, a wonderful choice for a very classy bike. Starting to lean towards this as my first ride, over the T100. Price is a factor, as is character. Great review!
About the dial - I'm fine with the digital version (I do like an extra-clear reading of what speed I'm doing), though obviously I'd like to to look less toy-ish, and more as you say rolex-like. It being off-center is likely to wind me up more! What an absolutely gorgeous bike, though! I've been eyeing these up for years, now!
1) Photography and video is top notch and especially good in this episode.. 2) I rode a 850 Le Mans in the 90's and the engine was wonderful. It had linked brakes on the rear footpedal with the front brake leaver controlling a second front disc. As the bike had a squire adult + child sidecar attached the extra braking was superb. Very emotional bike to ride. 3) I would take the black non spoked, presumably tubeless tyre model over chrome and spokes. I prefer riding to cleaning.
I could test this bike in May. And I felt in love with it. I really prefer it to the Interceptor (not for my morphology) and the T120 (too intimidating) This bike is alive! It shakes a bit, vibrates smoothly, sounds good, looks great. Really pleasant in the city. I’m 5.5 and I can nearly flat foot on both sides. Thanks, I discovered Josef Suk 😊
I test rode a v7 stone in matt red,loved it & it looked stunning apart from the clock,but it won't stop me buying one,I will soon be ordering the special edition with the arrow pipes,it looks amazing. Great review by the way.
Great review, I have just taken delivery of the Stone Corsa which has the same clock. I must admit it nearly put me off but actually looks ok behind the fairing! Great bike😊
Nice Review Thank You . The modern motorcycle industry has sadly gone for plastic fantastic 😢there are only a few bikes that has beauty and character to day, and the V7 special are also my favorite but even the new V100 Mandello and Stelvio has this character i watched videos from the Milano exhibition and Moto Guzzi are one of the few bikes that has real character❤
No, the V100S that I own does NOT have the same character of the V7 850. Just no. I own both. Ride before you buy if you want just one. They are oppostes.The V100S reminds you how much you suck as a pilot and you try to get it right to please the bike's racer spirit. The V7 adapts to your riding style and won't rat you out for it. Totally different ride. I love them both. One for telling me how good I am and where to improve and the other for shutting up about it.
I’ve been away from motorcycling now for over two decades. I’ve decided to take it up again and this bike just seems right. It’ll keep me on the straight and narrow, if you take my meaning.
I’ve got an Orange v7 2021 stone . I just love the character I’ve had all sorts of bikes including a Triumph Rocket 3 Bonneville 1200 . Vstrom Klr and Tiger 800xc. And this beats them all for character. I log it.
Back into biking after decades with my new RE Classic 350, but I can still remember borrowing a buddies Moto Guzzi V50 in the early 80s, wonderful sure footed machine, bends were a joy …owned an RD250LC at the time.
I’m still enjoying my 2012 V7 Special and cannot imagine selling it ever. Every time, it’s a ride with emotion and feeling that I don’t get from many new bikes.
First off, your channel is fantastic. You both communicate the experience of a bike, while being direct, well-spoken, funny and not going overboard with content. Great job on the production of these videos, too. I rode the V7 Stone today and am in love (thanks to finding out about it from your channel), but wanted to provide a counter argument about the digital circular dial. In another video you compared the T100 to Roger Moore/James Bond, and the V7 Stone, to Frank Grillo. I think this is an excellent comparison, but it's also the reason that an analog dials wouldn't work on this specific model. The T100 wears those dials well, like a Rolex that James Bond would wear. I actually think Frank Grillo would be wearing a very large, fancy digital watch, perhaps under a fancy jumpsuit, but I don't see him as a Rolex man -- it's too polished and classy. I found the bike more animal and less classy. My impression is that the designers thought analog would be an anachronism against a bike with this kind of modern, matte tone -- just as Roger Moore is quite literally classic against the modern Grillo. Just my two cents and I've probably thought about this too much.
One of my favorite presenters up on in Northumberland likened that speedo to Salvador Dalí's mustache .Sorry once youve seen it you cant unsee it :) I too like the spiecial ...Thanks for the great review ..Yours from New England , Guy ...
Thank you for the review , I have been always drawn to the looks of this bike. Shape of the tank , analog gauges (sad only on the special) ,traditional round headlight ..I need to get a test ride . Stay safe ..
Finally, I've been waiting for years to see you review this bike, and what a pleasure to see my favourite Guzzi. Definitely lose the display and bring back the dials, I've owned 3 Moto Guzzis all are works of art.
Well Done😊 I absolutey agree with you both. If this Stone version had the standard clocks, then I would buy it no question, due to it also having tubeless tyres. Unfortunately only the special has so I'ma bit torn over this bike......Going to Milan tomorrow from Dublin for Eicma. Will have a closer look there. Great stuff guys 👍👏
Thank you for this video. It's the nicest motorbike test video I've seen. I have my V7 for the first year, and I'm very happy with it. The most important is really what you said, it has character . Like a living creature! This fits completely and this was my thought after the first test ride. Now I've done about 3000km this year. It's really fun. I don't see the instrument so critically, I like it. But I like the front light very much with the Moto Guzzi eagle in it. The speciale had a simple front light without the eagle.
Another excellent Real World review of a real world motorcycle. Good to see you on a Guzzi at last! (not for the want of trying I know). With you 100% on the mudguard, and digital instruments. I think Guzzi are at last going through something of a renaissance with a fantastic range of motorcycles that are characterful and unique with the transverse vee twin. Great choice in the music for this one by the way, perfect. Well done
I enjoy you and Mr Darcy’s passion for motorcycles. It feels like i am right there riding and listening as a pinion. You look great with only 1/2 a year older than Mr Darcy. I am getting the bug to purchase my first bike. I think this is going to be a huge step up from my 12 speed bicycle. Cant wait to get my license , rev it up and feel the engine twitch. It even has a unique smell Mr Darcy says. I am a fan of the two displays with the solid headlight.
I must say mostly agree with all of your thoughts on the Guzzi V7. It looks great, sounds great and is wonderful to ride. Agree that the Special is so much nicer with the twin clocks. I only disagree on the mud guard. I think the shorter front guard looks wonderful and leaving in Australia, road muck and mud is really such an issue. Only other thing I’d add if I bought one is either a set of Agostini’s or Mistrel pipes. Love the fact it’s shaft drive also, very much my kind to of drive train as I own an R18 and and old BMW R65, custom cafe racer with a short front mud guard, you’d hate it😂😂😂. Nice review, keep it up
I added a Supertrapp stainless to a 1992 BMW R100R and even "quiet" it ruined it's livability. The static just drove me nuts on long rides, and I wear ear plugs. I put the stock back on and lost the grin accelerating but man, I could actually LIVE at speed with the stock exhaust. I own the V7 850 TEN now, and LOVE the ARROW. They rumble at a light but shut up at speed to a quiet whir. The work t get this quality I admire. All the fun and yet no audible pain!
Both criticisms are valid. Silly short front mudguard and dials that don't respect the heritage of the bike. I'm spoilt for choice and hadn't thought of the V7, until now. A job well done 'old 'un'.
Darcy; very well noticed! The BMW R18 and the Moto Guzzi v7 ARE very symmilar when you start the engine. Both pulls you back on a side because of their engine design. Thank you for this review! You did great. Cheers!
I think this was your best video yet, and it's not just because I'm a V7 rider! Fair enough comment on the dial, Guzzi billed it as being a "modern classic" feature, but then the Special gets proper twin clocks, so why not the Stone? To be honest, you get used to it, and my bike wears a bikini fairing (a very good addition) and the clock kind of blends into it. About THE LCD. There's nothing "modern" about LCDs, I used to courier on a Kawasaki GT550 back in the day, and they've had LCDs on their clocks since the 1980s. Dead right about the powerband, it's happiest over 3500 revs, but doesn't feel stressed. As for going fast, if that floats your boat, a couple of things to bear in mind. 1) The motor is plenty powerful enough to propel you north of 100 mph on the Autobahn, of course. I know, I've done it, and the suspension and frame can take it happily. 2) hammering it through the twisties is perfectly possible, the only limiting factor is the single front disc. Perfectly adequate for sensible to enthusiastic riding, but it's a bit lacking if you're going to pretend you're Valentino Rossi. 3) Guzzi run a V7 only competition series in Italy on race tracks, and there's a suspension and engine upgrade you can get to turn it into a track bike. So, yes, if aggressive riding is your thing, then this bike will let you keep up with your mates on much faster tackle. Having said that, I agree with the old man's philosophy, there's so much more to riding than getting past that next corner as fast as possible. The scenery in your video is stunning, that's one of the reasons I like to follow you guys. I may well take a trip back to the UK on the bike next summer, when it's too hot to put your helmet on in Spain!
Nailed it. The clocks must have those double ones from the classic AND spoke wheels. I got this as soon as it came out. Had to get downpipes replaced due to bad paint and right side switch gear due to ignition issues. All resolved. Brilliant bike, sweet engine. This is the bike you get when you want hand made heritage, Guzzi still made in the same factory over 100 years. The side to side rumble character is pure joy. More recently got a Kawasaki W650 2001. Similar charachter. All the electronic nonsense has taken away the charachter of modern bikes. Big resurgence in raw motorcycling. Get one :) Add Minstrel pipes, big improvement over standard.
Splendid review, of course analog dials for me too! I had a V7 Stone Special Edition for three days and fell in love with it. I was looking for excuse to take it out for a spin. It really feels great riding this beauty. I would buy the Special or retro fit the analog dials on a plain V7 Stone if it would be possible.
Loved the review and love the old man! His take on motorbikes is unique and interesting and he seems like a person full of character himself so maybe that's why he likes his bikes the same way. 🙂 I also find the style of your videos very interesting, they are a blend of a review, a vlog and a short film (cool music selection btw). The scenery was gorgeous! I have always loved Moto Guzzis but I've yet to ride one. Maybe someday.. As for the dial.. Difficult to say from the video but it doesn't look too bad.. But yeah I think the analogs suit it better. Cheers! ☺
Wonderful review.❤There is a lot of love in it: landscape, photography, the perfect description in an extremely pleasant way. Especially your opinion about what is beautiful and special about motorcycling. I have a v7 stone since 2021: character, style and an (almost) living being ;) And even people without a motorcycle background enjoy this Italian bella outside the mainstream. Thank you very much - greetings from Berlin
Thank you. You get a lot of information across in a pleasant and interesting way. Your surrounding countryside is stunning, something to compensate for your abysmal weather.
Ah, great to see you finally get a ride on a Guzzi. I have the v7iii stone in green and love it. It’s less powerful than this new version but to be honest if I had more power I would just be tempted to ride it too hard or fast and that’s really not the point with this bike. First Guzzi I have owned and they definitely get under you skin. I run it down to Swanage or Sandbanks for coffee runs, bit of commuting and now getting into touring having visited your beautiful part of the UK over last 2 summers. Btw I have analogue clock on mine which is great but it’s still offset, which looks a little strange. Anyway Keep up the good work and stay safe out there brother…
You are so right about the mudguard! I'm still looking for a decent extension for my Moto Guzzi Audace 1400. What I can tell You is that Guzzi engines don't like to be lag down low. There is no point keeping it below 2500rpm the sweet spot is 3000-3500rpm. You can ride the torque from 3000-4400rpm or keep it spinning and ride the power curve from 4500-7000rpm. Guzzis take a long time to break in. The gearbox will become a peach after 8000miles. Sadly they are fuled very lean from the factory. So, if You change the exhaust a Vtwin boost plug will do the trick. Especially if You gonna change the exhaust! I did and well the sound they make is just epick! They are handling beautifully and they stop better than they should. The other thing is tyres. The OEM aren't great but put a pair of Avon Cobra Chromes on it and they will grip for days and the turn I will be so much quicker. Plus they last much longer. If You're ever gonna be in the south of England and You will like to ride the Italian version of Your R18 give us a shout @audace_rider
My next cafe racer project!!! I love this bike. Remove rear fender install Fleda tail light. Motodemic headlight woodcraft clipons and handlebars remove mirrors
This motorcycle review video has the most pleasant background music of all. Came here curious about the motorcycle, but am left ruminating on how pleasant is the video/music.
I have the exact same bike as a first and only bike and done about 10000km. I have only my Kawasaki learning bike to compare it with and I have no regrets buying the V7 stone 850 and can’t imagine ever swapping this bike! I got used to the digital dial, it shows me clear info on a glance. There are brackets available to mount it in the middle at ‘Reverso Moto’.
The Special edition is the winner for me. The only downside the tubed tyres. If they fix this in the future it is going to be the ultimate motorcycle. Great review Ol Man. You give us the feeling of riding this machine.
You are right: stunning machine, indeed. I prefer it to the V7 Special. Put a flap on the front mudguard. Offset single dial: perfect. I like the wheels. Who wants a clonky gearbox? 21-litre tank. Wow. I have never sat on a horse. Will a donkey do? Your enthusiasm for this bike shines through. Nick J
I bought one in late 22. Have put just under 20000km on it and I concur with ALL your remarks. Only mod I've done is a set of mistrals which let a more true engine note through and seems to have improved fuel economy. It does sacrifice the smooth low revs round town running slightly. Thought I'd get used to the "instrument" but yeah nah....its a dog. Difficult to see in some lights. Mag wheels are easy to clean though compared to spokes and I bought it to ride, not polish. Be good if if the other instrument cluster was available for the stone imo.
I like it and you are right about the gauges I don’t get the offset position motorcycle companies seem to do with them lately I looks weird to me Nice video
The thing with Guzzis is the engine, tested to their limits before they leave the factory on lake Como,like no other brand,that's what I love about them,the history still made in the same factory for over 100 years,so much character,I have two Guzzis,and never had any negative comments about them like you get with other brands, because they respect the history and most of all the engineering,says it all
Got it’s thx
After 5 years of owning the V7iii, this little bike was a real trouble free. Used it daily like a Honda cup and took 1600 km 2 days trip easily. I was so proud of owning my V7iii.
Like Triumph and Harley Davidson, there's a lot to love about a legendary motorcycle manufacturer that continues to make character a priority. Bravo Motto Guzzi.
The thing about all Guzzi models is once you start revving them out, you can certainly feel the racing heritage built into each one. Guzzis love to be revved and love to be driven spiritedly. Definitely don’t need to baby these bikes and they reward you for having some fun. Gorgeous bikes and gorgeous exhaust notes, especially with a set of Lafranconi or Mistral pipes. Guzzi’s here in the States have often been ridden by older people (respectfully) or connoisseur types, but I think the brand is getting more attention by younger riders and becoming more popular. I have a V7 Classic and one part of me loves having Guzzi to myself with never seeing another on the road. Another part of me loves they’re growing and being enjoyed by more people. Great review and fantastic footage!
They love to be revved?
They're motorcycles, I don't think they have feelings bro
I bought the 850 stone about one month ago, and while I agree about the dials, I got used to the digital gauge. Ideally I would love the stone with that headlight and darker scheme but with the twin clocks. Oh well! Having owned both a Bonneville (865 air cooled) and recently RE Continental GT 650, I’d have to say Guzzi takes the crown!
Awesome, and yes dials are a personal taste for sure 👍🏼
I have the Continental Gt and a 1981 guzzi V1000g5..... I love both. Maybe this is their perfect love child? I might need one
Class review brother. Between you and hubnut channel in Wales, my life is complete. Cheers from an old Dubliner in Boston many moons.
At age 77 & 5ft 8”, I needed a smaller bike, but still wanted to tour long distances. Last year I rode a factory V 7 from Italy to NordKapp , back through Finland, the Baltics etc and over Stelvio to Mandello. Despite some 800 km days, I was always comfortable in that seat.
From that experience, home in Tasmania I have modified my V7 Stone with a rear rack, soft panniers, crash bar, small screen, heated grips, throttle lock and bark busters. For one-up touring it’s perfectly adequate and quite competent in gravel with stock tyres. I think the offset binnacle is that way for a reason. It allows a GPS and go pro to be mounted on the bars while still being able to read the speedo. With the screen the offset is hardly noticeable.
I do agree that the front mudguard is useless in the dirt. Overall, it’s the best bike I have ever owned. I have put 20,000 km on it in just over a year.
Sounds wonderful!
Incredible review. Best motorcycle channel on the platform. Going to give the v7 a test drive. Thanks.
Thank you 😊 and enjoy your test drive 👍🏼
Do it. You'll dig it!
The cheap, plastic digital dial is truly an own goal by Guzzi - a decision that could only have ever been made with profit margins in mind. The special variant is the bike they should have solely produced in 2-3 different colouring options. I appreciate the back to back videos on the v7s lads, great content.
Thank you 😊
Try the V7 Special if you want beautiful dials.
@@clanmac66 yes Mr Darcy reviewed the V7 Special and loved the dials 👍🏼
That’s the only thing that puts me off the classic 350, that dial surround it’s not round it’s not square not oval not elliptical it’s as if they were trying to create the most clash of shapes possible.
I was waiting for the new bullet, and would you believe it.
As a huge Guzzi fan ....I can only agree with your great review....its all about the ride idid have a v7 and wish I had bought the special just for those clocks ! ...great bike though
I've a 2019 V7III Stone. I has an analog speedo, no tach. I owned a 1974? LAPD 1000 convert, and a 1982? Ambassador. It is impressive what steady improvement, a refinement process for 67years of continuous manufacturing of the same model has yeilded. The last of the 750 V7's are amazing. I love mine.
I went for the special for the very same reasons, spoke wheels analog clocks and chrome exhaust. I’ve had mine since 2022 but only started riding it this year after a knee replacement. Can’t wait for the summer 👍🏻
As a biker who also used to ride horses for a living, many years ago, I entirely agree with you about the character and the sole of the V7. It's a real motorcycle that I never tire of looking at and gliding around country lanes on. I agree with you about the clocks but didn't want chrome and spokes. Spent enough time polishing brass and cleaning tack.😊
Yup , A Stone for the ease of cleaning , but Guzzi need to do a dual clock model , or a kit to replace hat horrible digital thing ,
Have to say, that silver edition looks far better in real life footage than it does in the computer graphic images on Guzzi's (very annoying) website and it's the one I'd buy on looks over the one Darcy reviewed. It's a great looking bike and definitely one I would consider buying as a back road explorer. Guzzi would do well to put more of their bikes your way because they deserve a much higher profile. Guzzis fly under the radar and more people should try one. I wish they still made the 1400 California Custom.
If you can't afford a Bonneville and aren't keen on the Enfields these little Guzzis are in a class of one for quality and value. So nice to see them getting a boost. Get your money out Darcy.
V7s are like puppies. I've never seen an ugly one.
Actually, Guzzis are like puppies.
My golly, that bike is possibly the most beautiful I have seen in a long while. Air cooled shaft drive and such elegance. It must have been like flying a biplane in the early days of air travel 🖤
I'm a lifelong Kawasaki devotee but honestly I'd consider one of these ☠️
My feelings exactly. The website NEVER does them justice. I see them in person and I'm always dropping my jaw at their beauty.
They should hire a better photographer and graphic designer for their website haha
My last 4 bikes have been guzzis, and I still hold 2. First was a v9 Roamer along with a 1400 California Eldorado. Sold them and moved to the first v7 850 special. Initially had some fueling issues, but subsequent updates from Guzzi sorted it, although upmap product also addresses. Dropped a set of mistral longs along with a dna filter and the bike certainly feels livelier. Very much a keeper. Also running a 22 v85TT travel, and also love rid8ng that. I read somewhere that 10 mins on a Guzzi you will hate it, 10 hours and you won’t want another bike. That is very true.
It’s the first bike I’ve ever bought without seeing it in person, or test riding. My heart just told me it was the perfect bike for me at this stage in my life. Thankfully, I was right. Three months in, and I love it. Added some Agostini pipes, and I love it even more! My last bike was a Triumph T120, I don’t miss the extra hp, and I just adore the character of the Guzzi!
Awesome enjoy riding it 👍🏼
No need to remap ecu right? Did you replace them yourself?
@@Victor-vf1fi If don’t remove db killers, they’re fine.
Very nice review, maybe I'm the odd one out but i like the digital single clock over the twin dials, being offset it leaves room for my tom tom without blocking any view.
The flat spot will disappear after the run-in service, there was also a software update for dealers to install.
Stick a pair of the mistral short slip ons and it sounds as it should, ive also put mg bar end mirrors on mine, much better rear view from them. Added a dart marlin short screen, which works well and looks good.
For anyone wondering about its capabilities they are excellent, we toured france two up with luggage last year and it never missed a beat, the 21lt fuel tank is great, i just fill up about the 180 mile mark, thats only my ocd though 😅.
I own a V100S Mandello, and missed the basic mechanics of my 1992 R100RT I sold to get the Mandello that I bought a V7 STONE 850 TEN. To say that MG should just make "one" classic version is nonesense. The offset digital dash is fine and gives you everything you really need. Want GPS? Add it to the right on the handlbars and it doesn't block the dash. That's smart, not dumb. Gas gauge? 52 MPG so fill up around 180-200 miles.
My 1979 CB750F had loads of plastic on it. No one complained about that did they? Why, just because it says Moto Guzze we pan plastics? ALL new bikes are loaded with the stuff. Enough on plastics (the TEN model has metal on the intake runners, that were plastic).
Does this bike work, though? Outside of, to me, drop dead gorgeous lines, it is a joy to ride. A proper compromise on the suspension for 98% of the road except those back-shot potholes. The V7's new suspension rides BETTER than my V100S on tour mode with $$$ Ohlins! OK, the V100S can take the big PUNCH from a big pot-hole better but the real world balance is worse.
The seating position for my 5'10" 140 pound frame is perfect. Yes, perfect. No changes to anything. Your feet are slightly farther forward to uncramp the knees. The V100S puts you feet more under you, and knees bent so you need to stand and unwind every hour or so. I also had to add bar risers to the V100S, too low and forward for long rides for me. Not so on the V7, just keep motoring along. Fantastic range comfort. The V7's seat is better too, it allows more movement where the V100S locks you in place. The claim about classic style MG seats is true, they are far better than most.
I wish it had a cruise, as it has the anti-lock brake circuits that cruise uses but, the throttle is nice and light. Gentle pressure from your hand holds you steady at 4K RPM and each gear is hitting the sweet spot for speed and low vibration. I've gone three hours on it no problem.
The engine is plenty powerful for sane stuff on the street. 52-54 MPG and a wonderful rumble at stops. When running at speed you hear a turbine like smoothness that is atypical for a twin. The rumble seems to be reserved for lower RPM with the ARROW exhausts. power if really flexible with the two-valve hemi-head. 1,2 or 3rd through ninety degree commuter corners. Take your pick. All that changes is exit speed drive. The engine never complains or knocks.
Handling is more steady, and not hyper sensitive like the V100S that has a always want to be moving given the chance. The V7 holds a line, but takes more thought to change it. It isn't stuck there, it just isn't obnoxiously twitchy.
The shaft drive is back there, it never rears it's head or the rear suspenson under throttle like the R100RT's did, locking it near solid under acceleration. The V7 allows a compliance over bumps under throttle that is nice.
The transmission is odd for an Italian big twin. It is a shorter throw shift drum than you expect, by a LOT. It needs the dry clutch adjusted right (maybe 80-mils so at the pivot point) to shift smoothly but once that's done, it shifts real nice and has a great pull through the gears that is real work enjoyable. New it is tight, though. But this is a big twin, not a race bike. The transmission works perfectly fine to the bikes mission. I never missed a shift. Shifts to first are QUIET from neutral and neutral is easy to find with touring boots.
OK, the brake front brake. It is currently designed to give a sopow real progressive brake feel. But, I don't like that, I want 80% of the brakes at 20% of the lever pressure. The problem isn't the disc or calipers...they can lock-up the wheel fine and anti-lock kicks in. More rotors and calipers won't help after the wheel is at the traction limits. What works, is to chnge the pads the EBC FA244HH sintered copper versions. Now the initial bite is much stronger sooner. Forty-five bucks is all you need to fix the brakes.
To me this is one of the last great standard out there. Before all liquid cooling and such are endemic to the breed and erase the brands true character, I grabbed one. I have a V100S for starship level motorcycles.
They’re also made in Italy in Mandello del Lario since 1921. It’s a beautiful machine with a simple air cooled engine, that doesn’t make you clean an oily chain every month. It’s fast enough, vibes a lot but only with good low frequency vibes, has decent brakes, no fuel gauge, a hilariously slow gear indicator, good fuel consumption, beautiful sound (stock pipes are too silent), traction control with 2 modes, and decent led headlight (not the Speciale version). People say its super easy to work on but I’ve never tried it. Valve clearance is a breeze, will give it a go.
Piaggio are difficult to deal with if you buy a lemon. Glad you guys love the bike. I have the yellow colour and I adore it.
I've never heard a good word said about Piaggio.
@@splodge57 their designers are fantastic, the management is atrocious
Thanks for the real world review, it helped me make a decision. Just put down a deposit on a Stone Ten, after taking the Stone Special for a test ride. Loved the way it rides, and that sound! Fender extender is on the shopping list. I can live with the digital clock, but it'll probably get a small screen to hide it away, or maybe the Corsa fairing with a custom spray job to tie in with the tank.
I find your priorities in bikes so refreshing. Very similar to mine. I rode a BMW R100RS for 100k miles in the 80's and think this V7 might be the closest thing I'll ever find to matching it in the way it made me feel. Great review!
Thank you 😊
I had two BMWs in the 70s/80s and yes, this Guzzi is very evocative of those great bikes. The bonus being the Guzzi is a better in almost every way measurable
Just bought one this weekend. Thanks for your great reviews and greetings from eastern Germany. Did not know what character of a motorcycle means until i made a testride which i really enjoyed.
Great to hear that! Enjoy!! 👍🏼👍🏼
@@MrDarcy-OlMan ha thanks for replying. Btw You two are an awesome team 😎
I own a v7iii (750cc model), for much of the reasons you've mentioned in your review. I have to say, allot of reviews seem to apply some sort of unconscious bias against the Moto Guzzi's, but yours and Darcy's are refreshing and reflect my views on owning the bike. I really like the white/red/chrome version of the special that Darcy rode. Fair play lads, keep it up!
Many thanks 😊
I bought a V7 850 Special in Formale Blue last March. I looked at all the options for a Modern Classic and this bike was an easy choice for me. I considered the other versions of this bike but the twin clocks, chrome, and wire wheels of the Special are just too beautiful.
Stand out features for me over the other bikes the Guzzi competes with in this market include the very low maintenance of shaft drive and super easy valve adjustments. The front brake is another plus being a four pot Brembo with great power and feel. Large fuel tank and great ergonomics for my 5' 9" frame round it out.
Thanks 'Ol Man for the enthusiastic review!
Great to hear 👍🏼
As I commented on your son's review: "can't wait to see what your dad thinks about Guzzi's" and here you are Sir! I remember you doing a video about a year ago where you said it was extremely difficult to get one of these bikes and to do a decent review, so glad you found someone who could provide you the experience. You definitly have a point about the dial and the mudguard. I had the V7 Stone (2017 model) and switched to the V85 TT for more comfort on longer rides. For me there's no turning back, Guzzista per sempre! (Guzzi rider till' I die) Thanks for the excellent reviews and I hope one of you 2 buys the Special ;-) grtz from Belgium
Awesome 👍🏼
Loving my 2022 850 V7 Special in Blue. Your review is right on target. The bike really comes alive over 3K RPM. It feels great in the city and hitting the sweeping curves on the Toll Road at 75 MPH/120 KPH. One feature I wish Guzzi would add is cruise control for long Texas road trips, also heated grips. I ride more in the winter here.
If you fit Oxford heated grips you can also fit a Kaoko throttle lock without cutting anything. Both worthwhile for touring.
Thanks for the advice. @@captratty2167
Perfect review of this bike. As a 48 yr on the road biker enthusiast I totally get this bike & review. And this bike like my HD 1200 sporty is exactly like riding the Brit bikes I owned in my youth but with far far less maintenance and much better performance. Having said that this bike has the same power & torque figures as my old Norton Commando 850 mk 3 but with a lighter crank & higher compression is much more sporty and rev happy. I only buy bikes I can service & fix myself. I bought the V7 Stone special edition gloss blk & its just a great fun sweet ride terrific allrounder. Spot on review covered all the relevant points and I agree with them all
Just bought one , love it cannot wait to ride it after my new knee just few more weeks till I'm better then I'm off. Love the clock, it don't bother me or I would have bought the other model. Everything in this bike is perfectly done, shaft drive is hidden , you wouldn't know where it was. Your video on this bike has been one of the best I have watched. Many thanks , Gary
Great to hear that! I bet you can't wait to get back riding 👍🏼
This millennial greatly prefers the gauges on the special as well as the spoke wheels. The stone does have a feel all it's own that I also really like. I think a V7 might be a part of my life in the coming years.
Great video Ol' Man; fantastic choice of music. Totally in step with you - the Special has to be the one.
Thank you 😊
So glad you finally got to review the V7, and understood the Guzzi experience. When you mention character, people automatically think it's an excuse for clunky gearbox and vibrating engine, this couldn't be further from the truth, what it actually is is a bike that makes you feel alive. Like you said it's talking to you, giving you feedback, basically it has a sole, something sadly missing from most modern motorcycles. I love Moto Guzzi, I've owned a Bellagio for the past 16 years and genuinely will never sell it, I've put a V7 tank and seat on it so it looks similar to the V7 special as it has spoked wheels. It also has a bit more BHP at 75 which is something I feel Moto Guzzi failed on with the current V7 850. Why did they give the V85TT 80bhp and the V7 only got 65? I think if they had given it a bit more horse power it would of been an even bigger seller for them. Even if they offered it in both 65 and 80bhp and let the customer decide, I'm sure the majority would go for the 80bhp version if the price wasn't too much more expensive. Anyone who has ever owned a Guzzi will always want to come and look and have a chat about your Guzzi, they are the friendliest people you could ever meet, and everyone else will just come over because your bike just looks beautiful. Who wouldn't want to own a Moto Guzzi?
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Yes, I own a V100S Mandello and a V7 850 STONE TEN. I think I can speak from both ends of the market.
I like the Mandello for it's spaceship modern qualities, but the V7 TEN has a draw that is far more emotional and involved. I ride the V7 and the V100S rides me, it is that simple. The V100S is a pure tool of riding perfection and reminds you that you aren't at every opportunity!
I've never been for want of more power real world and the V7 is just so flexible to your riding style. thrash it, or torque it easy. The V7 doesn't care or will rat you out. You can put how YOU want to ride into the bike and it accepts it.
I have a 2022 V7 Special. I never considered the Stone. The Special is such a beautiful machine and I love the 70's vibe the Special gives off. The V7 is a joy to ride, not the best at anything but good at everything. As an older rider I like the lighter weight of a mid-size bike for moving around in my garage or parking space and the V7 has many of the great characteristics of a Harley or classic BMW, pushrod motor, V or horizontal twin, industrial gearbox, shaft or belt drive. I'd highly recommend a V7 to anyone, but especially to older riders looking to downsize to a more manageable machine without giving up the things that make motorcycling great. Love the review and I'm glad you like these fine machines!
So happy you finally reviewedthis bike: I bought a 23 special earlier this year. Love the bike and for the money the quality is fantastic. I already have a Harley Breakout and looked at buying a V7, Triumph, HD Sportster and Ducati Monster/Scramblers also. V7 to me is the best bike for the money and will be a great bike to own longterm. Add some nice lightweight pipes and a small screen and its perfect.
Thanks for your perseverance in finally acquiring a Guzzi and making this lovely review. I’ve been following your channel for some time and thoroughly enjoy them. I purchased a V7 Stone Special Edition this year. It is the black metal flake model with red shock coils and red tank striping. I selected this over a white V7 Special with spoke wheels and the analog instrument cluster. Like you, I much prefer the analog gauges to the offset digital gauge. However, I prefer the lower maintenance and tubeless running of the alloy wheels. Ultimately, I chose my Special Edition over the Special because I preferred its more racy details. On another day I could just as easily gone the other way.
I agree with everything you say about this wonderful machine. It exhibits so much character in all aspects. Truly a special machine.
I would take the Stone every day of the week personally. I'm OK with the LCD and don't like wire wheels much. I can see the attraction with the special though so let's agree it's great to have the choice
As far as Italian bikes, I have owned a ducati 860, moto morini 500 camel, laverda 3cl 1000, cagiva 650, and currently have a 1989 Moto Guzzi Mille GT 1000 and a 2013 Moto Guzzi Stone 750. Have owned several German bikes to include BMW and Zundaps. Grew up with British bikes--meaning Triumph and BSA. Have never been interested in Harley. Owned several Suzuki's to include 2-stroke models and the Wankel rotary 750. The Moto Guzzis have been my favorite above all the rest. Quirky, reliable, tractor-like in that the Japanese "refinement" is not there--but if you love just being connected to machinery and sound--Moto Guzzi!--mike battle
my first bike was a 2015 v7II. Still own it and enjoy it.
@@aesoundforge awesome 👍🏼
Totally agree with the seat.My Ducati Scrambler 400 is a different machine with it's flat bench seat with memory foam and 4 hours-comfy..This is a serious contender for an upgrade for me in future and the V twin engine and shaft drive are a massive benefit to longevity..love it.Thanks for the review.A real world bike for an Old's Cool Biker!!
I have a soft spot for all the modern classics. There really is something about the Guzzi that just feels right. Looks so good, a bit brutish, but refined. Like a fighter jet in an armani suit. My only reserve is being in the States, the need for a vehicle to comfortably maintain speeds in excess of 65/70 mph (105kph+). Would need to get my hands on a test ride and see how it feels. Love this bike.
I really like the look of the dark blue 2021 v7Special. And yes the dual gauges. I think that is becoming my dream bike.
Yes it is a great bike 👍🏼
It always amazes me why they don’t sell more of them. I think a test ride will convert many especially with this more powerfull unit. Nice one Wheels. Thanks for the support to a great channel.
It has taken us over four years to get one, perhaps that shows their lack of understanding of how motorcycles are sold to the public in 2023 (not Wheels obviously 👍🏼)
problem in australia is there’s not any test bikes where i live to try
Sorry to hear that
You guys have sparked my interest in the V7, so am going to test ride the bike. Personally, the digital instruments won't put me off if the rest of the bike is as good as you say. Would obviously get a fender extender!
@@Roadridedotnet when you have let us know what you think 👍🏼
@@MrDarcy-OlMan OK, been out for a test ride on a V7 Stone Special. Loved the engine, was a comfortable ride. Just found the handlebars a bit narrow and a very light front end. Need to try the V9 Bobber with the fat front tyre to see if this feels better.
Definitely in love with my V7 Special Edition bought last year! I own another four good bikes, but I keep the Guzzi for my “special moments”!
I’ve owned 5 Guzzis in the past (not all at the same time😂) . 2 Monza’s, a Lario, a Le Mans , and a Breva. Lovely bikes, often misunderstood. They are full of character, make excellent tourers and sound great with race pipes. Love them and miss mine.
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From your experience, would the Breva (750) be a good choice for a beginner?
@@clockworkfrustrationthey're all pretty tame engines as long as you dont get a big block (griso). The only noticeable thing about them is their heft. They're quite heavy for what they are.
My v7 850 weighs.. 480 pounds fully loaded? And only makes about 60hp lol.
Dry clutch is a bit of a workout though, my hands get tired real quick using only two fingers in traffic.
@@JelloThatsMellow Thanks, I'll definitelly look into the Breva. I'd love to get my hands on a v7, but that will probably be many years from now.
@@clockworkfrustration Hi, yes the Breva 750 would make an excellent 1st Guzzi. The engine has easy torque and plenty of usable power, suitable for a beginner. They are well built and easy to maintain and can cruise all day at 70 mph (should you want) 👍🏻
Front mudguard is as you say "useless". If you get up a petition to send to Moto Guzzi I will sign it. For my sins I have both the '22 850 Special and the '22 Stone. I have a satnav on the centre right side of the handlebar and so the off set display is a massive bonus. On my Special I have the two dials but the engine vibration shakes their needle so much they are not as accurate as the single unit on the Stone. The Stone's display shows everything I need to know all in one place. I do not have any inclinations to OCD and offset displays do not upset me in the slightest. I do however empathise with those who are cursed with OCD and feel the need to everything in order and symetric. Keep up the excellant reviews.
Ah Josef Suk, a wonderful choice for a very classy bike. Starting to lean towards this as my first ride, over the T100. Price is a factor, as is character. Great review!
About the dial - I'm fine with the digital version (I do like an extra-clear reading of what speed I'm doing), though obviously I'd like to to look less toy-ish, and more as you say rolex-like. It being off-center is likely to wind me up more! What an absolutely gorgeous bike, though! I've been eyeing these up for years, now!
1) Photography and video is top notch and especially good in this episode.. 2) I rode a 850 Le Mans in the 90's and the engine was wonderful. It had linked brakes on the rear footpedal with the front brake leaver controlling a second front disc. As the bike had a squire adult + child sidecar attached the extra braking was superb. Very emotional bike to ride. 3) I would take the black non spoked, presumably tubeless tyre model over chrome and spokes. I prefer riding to cleaning.
100% agree with you about the guage and the front mudguard. Would go for the special.
I weight 25stone or just shy of 160kgs would the V7 have enough torque for me comuteing on busy motorways? Thanks for all the videos.
It would be fine. Of course, something like a Harley Davidson or BMW R18 with c.150nm would be better in that respect, but itll certainly be ok
I love the starting music🎶 It is a stunner!
Yes it certainly is a stunner 👍🏼
I could test this bike in May. And I felt in love with it. I really prefer it to the Interceptor (not for my morphology) and the T120 (too intimidating)
This bike is alive! It shakes a bit, vibrates smoothly, sounds good, looks great. Really pleasant in the city.
I’m 5.5 and I can nearly flat foot on both sides.
Thanks, I discovered Josef Suk 😊
Yes we fell in love with it also 👍🏼
I test rode a v7 stone in matt red,loved it & it looked stunning apart from the clock,but it won't stop me buying one,I will soon be ordering the special edition with the arrow pipes,it looks amazing.
Great review by the way.
I bought the V7 TEN model and love the digital dash offset to not block my iPHONE caddy for a useless tach separate from the speedo.
Love the bike. My current bike is Beautiful HD 1974 XLH Have a blessed week my friend
Great review, I have just taken delivery of the Stone Corsa which has the same clock. I must admit it nearly put me off but actually looks ok behind the fairing! Great bike😊
Nice Review Thank You .
The modern motorcycle industry has sadly gone for plastic fantastic 😢there are only a few bikes that has beauty and character to day, and the V7 special are also my favorite but even the new V100 Mandello and Stelvio has this character i watched videos from the Milano exhibition and Moto Guzzi are one of the few bikes that has real character❤
No, the V100S that I own does NOT have the same character of the V7 850. Just no. I own both. Ride before you buy if you want just one.
They are oppostes.The V100S reminds you how much you suck as a pilot and you try to get it right to please the bike's racer spirit.
The V7 adapts to your riding style and won't rat you out for it. Totally different ride.
I love them both. One for telling me how good I am and where to improve and the other for shutting up about it.
I’ve been away from motorcycling now for over two decades.
I’ve decided to take it up again and this bike just seems right.
It’ll keep me on the straight and narrow, if you take my meaning.
I’ve got an Orange v7 2021 stone . I just love the character I’ve had all sorts of bikes including a Triumph Rocket 3 Bonneville 1200 . Vstrom Klr and Tiger 800xc. And this beats them all for character. I log it.
Our video coming out on Thursday will definitely interest you!
Back into biking after decades with my new RE Classic 350, but I can still remember borrowing a buddies Moto Guzzi V50 in the early 80s, wonderful sure footed machine, bends were a joy …owned an RD250LC at the time.
I’m still enjoying my 2012 V7 Special and cannot imagine selling it ever. Every time, it’s a ride with emotion and feeling that I don’t get from many new bikes.
First off, your channel is fantastic. You both communicate the experience of a bike, while being direct, well-spoken, funny and not going overboard with content. Great job on the production of these videos, too.
I rode the V7 Stone today and am in love (thanks to finding out about it from your channel), but wanted to provide a counter argument about the digital circular dial. In another video you compared the T100 to Roger Moore/James Bond, and the V7 Stone, to Frank Grillo. I think this is an excellent comparison, but it's also the reason that an analog dials wouldn't work on this specific model. The T100 wears those dials well, like a Rolex that James Bond would wear. I actually think Frank Grillo would be wearing a very large, fancy digital watch, perhaps under a fancy jumpsuit, but I don't see him as a Rolex man -- it's too polished and classy. I found the bike more animal and less classy. My impression is that the designers thought analog would be an anachronism against a bike with this kind of modern, matte tone -- just as Roger Moore is quite literally classic against the modern Grillo. Just my two cents and I've probably thought about this too much.
Many thanks for lovely comments 👍🏼
One of my favorite presenters up on in Northumberland likened that speedo to Salvador Dalí's mustache .Sorry once youve seen it you cant unsee it :) I too like the spiecial ...Thanks for the great review ..Yours from New England , Guy ...
Quality bike, quality review. The delivery rider for Wheels Motorcycles seems to have a great job!
This was very well done. Never even considered such a bike until now.
Cheers
Great way to describe “character “ which totally resonates with me! Excellent review.
Loved the review, look forward to you getting a ride and review of the V85TT.
Thank you for the review , I have been always drawn to the looks of this bike. Shape of the tank , analog gauges (sad only on the special) ,traditional round headlight ..I need to get a test ride . Stay safe ..
Finally, I've been waiting for years to see you review this bike, and what a pleasure to see my favourite Guzzi.
Definitely lose the display and bring back the dials, I've owned 3 Moto Guzzis all are works of art.
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Well Done😊
I absolutey agree with you both. If this Stone version had the standard clocks, then I would buy it no question, due to it also having tubeless tyres. Unfortunately only the special has so I'ma bit torn over this bike......Going to Milan tomorrow from Dublin for Eicma. Will have a closer look there.
Great stuff guys 👍👏
Thank you for this video. It's the nicest motorbike test video I've seen. I have my V7 for the first year, and I'm very happy with it. The most important is really what you said, it has character . Like a living creature! This fits completely and this was my thought after the first test ride. Now I've done about 3000km this year. It's really fun. I don't see the instrument so critically, I like it. But I like the front light very much with the Moto Guzzi eagle in it. The speciale had a simple front light without the eagle.
Another excellent Real World review of a real world motorcycle. Good to see you on a Guzzi at last! (not for the want of trying I know). With you 100% on the mudguard, and digital instruments. I think Guzzi are at last going through something of a renaissance with a fantastic range of motorcycles that are characterful and unique with the transverse vee twin. Great choice in the music for this one by the way, perfect. Well done
Thank you 😊
And the Led rear Light.... 😢
Along with the plástic fuel cover. They could do a chrome one. 2 things that dont belong in the bike
Ive got one of these wee beasties I love it. Got it in June 2021 and it will hit 24000 miles tomorrow.
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Lovely bike. Great service from Wheels delivering it to Wales. I hope they continue the good work when you move to Spain. Nice review cheers.
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Bravo! Your photos are amazing. Credit to the production crew. Thank you!
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I enjoy you and Mr Darcy’s passion for motorcycles. It feels like i am right there riding and listening as a pinion. You look great with only 1/2 a year older than Mr Darcy. I am getting the bug to purchase my first bike. I think this is going to be a huge step up from my 12 speed bicycle. Cant wait to get my license , rev it up and feel the engine twitch. It even has a unique smell Mr Darcy says. I am a fan of the two displays with the solid headlight.
Great to hear our passion for bikes is inspiring you 👍🏼
I must say mostly agree with all of your thoughts on the Guzzi V7. It looks great, sounds great and is wonderful to ride. Agree that the Special is so much nicer with the twin clocks. I only disagree on the mud guard. I think the shorter front guard looks wonderful and leaving in Australia, road muck and mud is really such an issue. Only other thing I’d add if I bought one is either a set of Agostini’s or Mistrel pipes. Love the fact it’s shaft drive also, very much my kind to of drive train as I own an R18 and and old BMW R65, custom cafe racer with a short front mud guard, you’d hate it😂😂😂. Nice review, keep it up
I added a Supertrapp stainless to a 1992 BMW R100R and even "quiet" it ruined it's livability. The static just drove me nuts on long rides, and I wear ear plugs. I put the stock back on and lost the grin accelerating but man, I could actually LIVE at speed with the stock exhaust.
I own the V7 850 TEN now, and LOVE the ARROW. They rumble at a light but shut up at speed to a quiet whir. The work t get this quality I admire. All the fun and yet no audible pain!
Moto Guzzi is an iconic machine. Style, quality and performance. Excellent review. Thank you...
Thanks 😊
Love watching your videos. And the sound quality is amazing. 7:56 how do you record the sound? Especially I wonder how to you block the wind sound?
Thank you; much appreciated! We’ve experimented with different techniques to get the sound right and I’m afraid it’s a trade secret!!
Both criticisms are valid. Silly short front mudguard and dials that don't respect the heritage of the bike.
I'm spoilt for choice and hadn't thought of the V7, until now.
A job well done 'old 'un'.
Nice review. Sometimes it is the intangibles like character and coolness factor that makes a bike great. You've captured those factors beautifully.
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Darcy; very well noticed! The BMW R18 and the Moto Guzzi v7 ARE very symmilar when you start the engine. Both pulls you back on a side because of their engine design. Thank you for this review! You did great. Cheers!
Many thanks 😊
I think this was your best video yet, and it's not just because I'm a V7 rider! Fair enough comment on the dial, Guzzi billed it as being a "modern classic" feature, but then the Special gets proper twin clocks, so why not the Stone? To be honest, you get used to it, and my bike wears a bikini fairing (a very good addition) and the clock kind of blends into it. About THE LCD. There's nothing "modern" about LCDs, I used to courier on a Kawasaki GT550 back in the day, and they've had LCDs on their clocks since the 1980s. Dead right about the powerband, it's happiest over 3500 revs, but doesn't feel stressed. As for going fast, if that floats your boat, a couple of things to bear in mind. 1) The motor is plenty powerful enough to propel you north of 100 mph on the Autobahn, of course. I know, I've done it, and the suspension and frame can take it happily. 2) hammering it through the twisties is perfectly possible, the only limiting factor is the single front disc. Perfectly adequate for sensible to enthusiastic riding, but it's a bit lacking if you're going to pretend you're Valentino Rossi. 3) Guzzi run a V7 only competition series in Italy on race tracks, and there's a suspension and engine upgrade you can get to turn it into a track bike. So, yes, if aggressive riding is your thing, then this bike will let you keep up with your mates on much faster tackle. Having said that, I agree with the old man's philosophy, there's so much more to riding than getting past that next corner as fast as possible.
The scenery in your video is stunning, that's one of the reasons I like to follow you guys. I may well take a trip back to the UK on the bike next summer, when it's too hot to put your helmet on in Spain!
Awesome great to hear your comments 👍🏼
Nailed it. The clocks must have those double ones from the classic AND spoke wheels. I got this as soon as it came out. Had to get downpipes replaced due to bad paint and right side switch gear due to ignition issues. All resolved. Brilliant bike, sweet engine. This is the bike you get when you want hand made heritage, Guzzi still made in the same factory over 100 years. The side to side rumble character is pure joy. More recently got a Kawasaki W650 2001. Similar charachter. All the electronic nonsense has taken away the charachter of modern bikes. Big resurgence in raw motorcycling. Get one :) Add Minstrel pipes, big improvement over standard.
Splendid review, of course analog dials for me too! I had a V7 Stone Special Edition for three days and fell in love with it. I was looking for excuse to take it out for a spin. It really feels great riding this beauty. I would buy the Special or retro fit the analog dials on a plain V7 Stone if it would be possible.
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Loved the review and love the old man! His take on motorbikes is unique and interesting and he seems like a person full of character himself so maybe that's why he likes his bikes the same way. 🙂
I also find the style of your videos very interesting, they are a blend of a review, a vlog and a short film (cool music selection btw). The scenery was gorgeous!
I have always loved Moto Guzzis but I've yet to ride one. Maybe someday..
As for the dial.. Difficult to say from the video but it doesn't look too bad.. But yeah I think the analogs suit it better.
Cheers! ☺
Awesome many thanks 😊
Hope you get to try a Guzzi soon 👍🏼
That view at 6:06 was unbelievable; it looked like a painting. I think I prefer the V7 Special.
Wonderful review.❤There is a lot of love in it: landscape, photography, the perfect description in an extremely pleasant way. Especially your opinion about what is beautiful and special about motorcycling. I have a v7 stone since 2021: character, style and an (almost) living being ;) And even people without a motorcycle background enjoy this Italian bella outside the mainstream. Thank you very much - greetings from Berlin
Great to hear 👍🏼
Thank you. You get a lot of information across in a pleasant and interesting way. Your surrounding countryside is stunning, something to compensate for your abysmal weather.
Yes it is raining 🌧 so much!
Ah, great to see you finally get a ride on a Guzzi. I have the v7iii stone in green and love it. It’s less powerful than this new version but to be honest if I had more power I would just be tempted to ride it too hard or fast and that’s really not the point with this bike. First Guzzi I have owned and they definitely get under you skin. I run it down to Swanage or Sandbanks for coffee runs, bit of commuting and now getting into touring having visited your beautiful part of the UK over last 2 summers. Btw I have analogue clock on mine which is great but it’s still offset, which looks a little strange. Anyway Keep up the good work and stay safe out there brother…
You are so right about the mudguard! I'm still looking for a decent extension for my Moto Guzzi Audace 1400. What I can tell You is that Guzzi engines don't like to be lag down low. There is no point keeping it below 2500rpm the sweet spot is 3000-3500rpm. You can ride the torque from 3000-4400rpm or keep it spinning and ride the power curve from 4500-7000rpm. Guzzis take a long time to break in. The gearbox will become a peach after 8000miles. Sadly they are fuled very lean from the factory. So, if You change the exhaust a Vtwin boost plug will do the trick. Especially if You gonna change the exhaust! I did and well the sound they make is just epick! They are handling beautifully and they stop better than they should. The other thing is tyres. The OEM aren't great but put a pair of Avon Cobra Chromes on it and they will grip for days and the turn I will be so much quicker. Plus they last much longer. If You're ever gonna be in the south of England and You will like to ride the Italian version of Your R18 give us a shout @audace_rider
Check through the comments as quite a few people recommending mud guard options 👍🏼
I put a Pyramid fenda extenda on my front mudguard. Makes a big difference and only cost £21.
My next cafe racer project!!! I love this bike. Remove rear fender install Fleda tail light. Motodemic headlight woodcraft clipons and handlebars remove mirrors
This motorcycle review video has the most pleasant background music of all. Came here curious about the motorcycle, but am left ruminating on how pleasant is the video/music.
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I have the exact same bike as a first and only bike and done about 10000km. I have only my Kawasaki learning bike to compare it with and I have no regrets buying the V7 stone 850 and can’t imagine ever swapping this bike! I got used to the digital dial, it shows me clear info on a glance. There are brackets available to mount it in the middle at ‘Reverso Moto’.
Awesome to hear you are enjoying yours 👍🏼
Thanks for telling us about that bracket .
And letting your your iPHONE or GPS blocking the dash after moving the current dash. The bike is desiged for how we (usually younger "we's") use tech.
@@Rower30-ye6qn my phone is mounted central with quad lock and not blocking my view on my centrally mounted dash
The Special edition is the winner for me. The only downside the tubed tyres. If they fix this in the future it is going to be the ultimate motorcycle. Great review Ol Man. You give us the feeling of riding this machine.
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What a great review! Agree in everything. I knew you would like it. Cheers man
Yes , the gauge is a thorn in the eye.I'd like to see this bike offered in more color variations.It's still a beauty.
You are right: stunning machine, indeed. I prefer it to the V7 Special. Put a flap on the front mudguard. Offset single dial: perfect. I like the wheels. Who wants a clonky gearbox? 21-litre tank. Wow. I have never sat on a horse. Will a donkey do? Your enthusiasm for this bike shines through. Nick J
The cast wheels are lovely as is the exhaust note. Very nice, and good review. Best middle-sized bike in my opinion.
I bought one in late 22. Have put just under 20000km on it and I concur with ALL your remarks. Only mod I've done is a set of mistrals which let a more true engine note through and seems to have improved fuel economy. It does sacrifice the smooth low revs round town running slightly. Thought I'd get used to the "instrument" but yeah nah....its a dog. Difficult to see in some lights. Mag wheels are easy to clean though compared to spokes and I bought it to ride, not polish. Be good if if the other instrument cluster was available for the stone imo.
Nice review, I have a V7 2016. Bought 6 months ago. Agree that twin dials are a must to go with the classic look. Absolutely love my bike.
Pleased to hear you are loving it 👍🏼
I like it and you are right about the gauges
I don’t get the offset position motorcycle companies seem to do with them lately
I looks weird to me
Nice video
Moto Guzzi is something truly special.
Loved the horse analogy, so true!