Battle of the Modern Classics. Triumph T100 vs Moto Guzzi V7. Which Motorbike Should YOU go For?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 23 ธ.ค. 2023
- We put the Triumph Bonneville T100 head-to-head with the Moto Guzzi V7 Stone (substitute V7 Classic) to find out which bike has the X Factor.
Which has the character? The handling? The looks? The engine? The style?
The Triumph T100 has the 900cc engine which has a very similar amount of power and torque to the 850cc Moto Guzzi. Both bikes are perfect 'real world' motorcycles, in that they are not overpowered, and they both are a joy to ride, so the question is, are you James Bond or Frank Grillo? Watch to see what we mean!
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Guzzi!
Saw the V7 stone Guzzi, same colour in the showroom a couple of years back. It looked the business so I bought it. First bike ever bought without test ride...When I left the dealers and started going through the gears I thought " what have I done.!
" 😂 By the time I reached home, I was hooked😂 The V7 is a proper motorcycle with shed loads of character. Handles beautifully in all conditions, easy to maintain. 6000 miles later, I'm still smitten. Roll on spring..( a recycled teenager 😊) 11:40
Moto Guzzi is air cooled. This is why I bought one ❤
To me there is no doubt, give me the shaft drive, please. Chain drive just sucks, that's all there is to it. And the Moto Guzzi is the only somewhat affordable bike left on the market that doesn't have a dirty chain.
I went for the Guzzi.... mainly because of the 6 speed box (Trumpet is 5) and the shaft drive.... test rode both bikes, you were correct in saying there's nothing between them.... I certainly didn't regret buying the Guzzi....
Great choice 👍🏼
Currently there's a £2500 difference in the triumph and the guzzi, even more if you shop around.
I test road the Triumph and although a fantastic bike it did nothing for me emotionally while the V7 Is just "alive". I love my V7 and never stop laughing and smiling when I ride it.
Great review
Many thanks 😊
I like the air cooled, shaft drive of the Moto Guzzi. Also, easy valve checks. Probably can't go wrong with either bike, IMHO.
I bought a V7 Stone in September. Reason were -looks, ease of maintenance, shaft drive, large tank capacity and the brand. I’ve had a Bonneville and it was an excellent bike. But in recent years I’ve have two friends who have had serious issues with Triumphs with bad dealer back up. So far I am happy with the Guzzi. It isn’t getting a lot of use here in Wales in December but I love looking at my Italian beauty in the garage every day. I did a review of it on my channel and our opinions are pretty much identical. Merry Christmas to you and yours
Moto Guzzi V7 Special! I currently have a 2022 Kawasaki W800 and a 2022 Royal Enfield 650 Interceptor (along with a 2023 Street Glide) and they are both great bikes. I had a 2022 Moto Guzzi V85TT adventure and loved it, but got rid of it do to the high seat, too hard for a 71 year old man to get on and off. I owned a 2013 V7 a few years back and enjoyed it, a new V7 Special will be next.
Great comparison! I have the Moto Guzzi V7III Special but I think a Corsa is in my near future. One thing not noted, and it does matter to some, but the Triumphs are made in Thailand and the Guzzi's still in their factory in Italy. Agostini pipes are made a few hundred yards away. 70% of the local town is in the bike manufacturing industry! They are truly made by a craft/cottage manufacturer. Even the seat is hand sewn and embroidered with their name. How cool it that? And maintenance is an absolute breeze. Guzzi all the way!
I went with the Guzzi its beautiful and if I'm going to pay a premium for a bike Id rather that money go to workers earning a proper wage.
Awesome 👍🏼
Changing my bike next year and have been researching for a while and actually whittled it down to these two bikes !! I have decided on the Guzzi ( The 850 special with twin clocks) so hopefully by spring next year I should be on one 🤞☺️
great choice with the twin clocks! that bike is borderline flawless with that cluster.
Yes the V7 Special looks the goods ⭐️
I am considering the very same bike. I live in the US Virgin Islands and for several reasons it is inherently unsafe for two wheeled vehicles compared to 99% of the world. Looking for another place and a bike (most likely a MG that I can maintain myself) will be the one!
Guzzi seems like just the bike I need for weekend rides in the country. Low maintenance, easy riding.
I chose Moto Guzzi for several reasons. Shaft drive, air cooled, large tank, easy maintenance.
Excellent reasons, plus it’s Italian!
A couple of months back I went out shopping for a Triumph. Had always wanted one. Went to the local Triumph dealer and looked over all their various models. Then we wondered into the Moto Guzzi dealer.
Went back home, spent a month researching on line. Ended up buying the V7 Stone Special Edition. The looks, the character of the bike, the shaft drive, alloy wheels, the choice was easy.
Awesome enjoy your Guzzi 👍🏼
I also own a Guzzi V7 Special Edition (along with a few other bikes), and I genuinely love it! Tons of character!!!
Very proud of how good the Old man pronounces Moto Guzzi ❤️💪
I have the earlier v7iii and when I bought it I was in the market for a used one and comparing against the triumph street twin. I was going to buy the Triumph (after a test ride) but a test ride on the v7 changed my mind, the character element won me over. Now these 2 models you have compared are next generation on but I guess it probably comes down to that personal preference of how each one makes you feel. My v7iii had 3k miles on when purchased 2 years ago and it’s now on 11k. The motors on the Guzzi’s definitely loosen up once they have 10k miles under their belts and the shaft drive is such a blessing for an easy life. Servicing these is pretty simple as it’s a pushrod motor with everything easily accessible. I love my v7iii and wouldn’t part with it… Great video btw very balanced review as always. Keep up the good work and hope you guys have a peaceful Xmas.
Great to hear 👍🏼
They’re both great bikes, but as an r nine t owner, the Guzzi gets my vote.
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I have an R nine t and I love it! I was also looking at the T100 and the T120 so my question is why the Guzzi ? I do think the Guzzi is a nice bike though
When I was looking to buy a new bike in 2022 it came down to the Triumph Street 900 and the Moto Guzzi V7 Special. I absolutely loved the Gold Line Street 900 and decided I wanted that, but unfortunately there were none to be had in the entire western US, they'd all sold out. So, I bought the beautiful blue Moto Guzzi V7 Special and I absolutely love it. I don't think anyone can go wrong with either of these bikes, they are both fantastic. It comes down to styling preference and model choice Bonneville T100/Speed 900, V7 Stone/V7 Special. I think the Guzzi would appeal more to Harley owners with its industrial gear box and pushrod V-Twin and the Triumph more to the Japanese motorcycle owner with its parallel twin and slick gear box. But you can't miss with either of these fantastic bikes.
The Triumph is a modern bike made to look old. The Guzzi is an old bike that's been modernised. They're both great but very different to ride.
I’ve bought the V7 Stone Special in black and red….because
1. Looks, sounds and feels more characterful than the T100
2. Cheaper
3. Proper time served legacy classic brand rather than a resurrected classic (like triumph)
Its the Guzzi for me, but not with blacked out pipes, it's got character by the bucket load.
The Moto Guzzi looks better ,it has shaft drive, 21 liter fuel tank.. The Guzzi is definitely the winner
V7, but the Special version.
I recently sold my 2020 V7III. Loved the bike. I purchased a 2016 T100. The MG is a visceral experience. The Triumph is like driving a Cadillac.
I might be biased because i own a v85, but you just got to love the look of that guzzi engine 😍😍😍😍😍
Had a Bonneville.
Didn't like the blandness or sky high service costs.
Love my Guzzi V7 and can service it myself.
Amen brother! Testify...!
Ive got a v7 stone and its great.Tubeless wheels,six speed gearbox,easy to read speedo and shaft drive.I usually get around 65 miles to a gallon and you can buy brand new on the road for 7k .
Just bought a v7 special in white/grey. It is the most beautiful bike I have owned so far.
I'll have more to say about it in a few weeks.
Great to hear, enjoy your new Guzzi 👍🏼
I did this comparison a few years back. Went for the V7. Never regretted it.
The Guzzi because of the shaft drive
Much larger fuel tank also.
I’d go for the Guzzi vs the Triumph for one key reason, shaft drive so no chain maintenance!
Used to own a v7 III Stone, 2019 model year. Sold it when I moved countries. It is a fantastic bike. Loved it. I miss it a whole heap.
I loved how you did the seating comparison. Well done!
(Now if we could only have the fuel consumption back in liters as well please 😉 )
Great video and a good comparison. I prefer the look and character of the Guzzi 👍🏼
Many thanks 😊
Hard to choose they are both very very apealing motorcycles.
However, while the T100 has a more refined paint scheme and finish, the Guzzi base model is cheaper than a T100.
The bonus with the Guzzi is a 15kg lighter machine and a marvellous maintenancce free shaft drive.
I had this doubt but in the end the Triumph T100 took the win and came home with me
Both are great bikes… the V7 special and the T 100 … we have the T100 already and looking for a second one and the V7 special is a possibility… but there’s a 3rd one which could be a great option in my opinion… that would be the Kawasaki W800 , little less capacity maybe but the engine is a real beauty… would love to see and hear your opinion on that one 😊
Both are great bikes,but in that green the T100 looks absolutely fantastic.
Never ridden a MG but the Triumph takes it for me on looks alone. The MG has a lot of character, the transverse twin is really cool looking, but the Bonneville is just so put together, motorcycle perfection in my eyes.
Guzzi for me, picked up a Stone Centenario two years ago and love it. A Pyramid fender extender helps keep some (but not all) of the muck off the bike in the wet. The clock's not to everyone's taste but is easy to read and functional. Merry Christmas!
Merry xmas 🤶
Bonnie every time, Those looks are great, but then the Guzzi has shaft, and we all like a good shaft
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The sound and grunt of the Bonnie are addictive. I tried both and bought the Trumpet.
The Guzzi would be my choice especially the special.
Triumph Bonneville for me ever since I bought my first T120R way back when. Can't beat the thrill of riding British Heritage and chatting with wistful old men recalling their youth when you park.
Happy Christmas. Both brilliant bikes, for me, the Moto Guzzi gets my vote. Shaft drive a plus and just has that more appealing style to me.
Happy xmas 🤶
I prefer the Guzzi - cool brand ,more characterful engine , shaft drive, decent sized tank , no tubes. However, I prefer the look of the 750 ( previous model)and would forgo the extra horsepower to lose 25kgs in weight No moustache on the clock either 😂 Meantime I’ll continue with my love affair with my 1979 v50 Keep up the good work on the channel 👍
I have a 2021 Moto Guzzi V7 Special and love it. For me its the perfect motorcycle. As a bonus I almost never see another on the road where I live.
The Triumph is a retro classic from a new company. The Moto Guzzi is a true classic from a 100+ year old company.
I mean 'New' is a bit of a stretch, they've been running in their current guise for 40 years
@@xu10j4rs1 That is good to hear. I hope Triumph thrives
Prefer the sound of the Triumph from what I hear now though… but I love the rougher look of the guzzi i most say.
Triumph is older than moto guzzi
@@slipknot5037 The original Triumph went out of business decades ago. The new Triumph is Triumph in name only. MotoGuzzi has been in continuous motorcycle production for over 100 years in the same factory even.
I mentioned once before that I bought a V7 Special around 6 months ago & I absolutely love it. I bought it primarily to ride to work on & thrash through the lovely Adelaide hills on sunny Sunday mornings, 2 things it is perfectly suited to thanks to it's shaft drive & screw & lock nut valve adjustment, stable handling & predictable power delivery. High miles without costly servicing are what make Guzzis perfect for this scenario.
What I didn't mention is that I rode a T100 & fully intend to buy one to drag a sidecar. I suspect they would be ideal for this purpose due to their low down torque & slightly steeper fork angle. Constantly adjusting the chain won't be too much of an issue either since it probably won't be ridden much (until I get too old & frail to get the Harley or the Guzzi off their side stand) & the rather small tank shouldn't be too much of a headache for the same reason. Plus, you can always carry more fuel in the sidecar.
And nothing in this video seems to indicate I made the wrong choice...
Thanks for all your efforts gentlemen. Have a safe & merry Xmas. Can't wait to see what you have in store for us next year!
Awesome to hear you are loving your Guzzi and a Merry xmas to you also 👍🏼
I have the Guzzi as mentioned before. It’s at 600 miles now. It feels smoother than when with one mile. I suspect it will become even more so as it ages (like fine wine) and after the 900 mile service.
Great city bike for me. I replaced the heavy AGM battery with a 1.3 pound lithium battery. Overall, the bike now seems very light and “flickable,” inspiring confidence in tight city traffic for quick stops and avoidance.
I can’t believe I like it so much at this price point. So much fun, while feeling like I’m riding something of value.
I will be taking it to Tampa from Miami to see mother for Christmas for five days. I’ll then see how it is as a long distance tourer at highway speed for five hours.
I added a fender extender and Rizoma glass/aluminum mirrors. Also, SW Motech racks and lightweight “Urban” saddlebags.
Excellent! And thanks for signing up 👍🏼👍🏼❤️
I’ve been waiting for this one! Settling in for the show.
I sooooooo agree with your comment on proper mudguards. Brands listen to the Ol‘ Man!!!! …. at min put proper mudguards in your accessories catalogs.
Moto Guzzi do have front and rear brushed aluminium "long" mudguards available as an accessory. However, they want about US$800 for the pair! Standard short ones must be a cost saving exercise as well as a fashion statement?
I think the T100 is a nicer looking bike in terms of style.
I think the v7 special would be a better comparison to the t100. Never the less the Guzzi wins for me, although the t100 is gorgeous.
I had 3 Guzzis back in the 80's. The V50 and Mk 2 and 3 LeMans (sp). I loved the character of them when the torque of the shaft drive lifted the backend as you pulled away.
I own both. The triumph is more refined and reliable in my opinion. The v7 is a fun bike with character but its way less refined and rough to ride. Also good to note the v7 doesnt hold its value as well as Triumph. You wouldnt believe how many issues those v7s have after the fact thats why they've got v7 v1 v2 v3, etc. Always issues with the shaft drive or motors.
Please share what particular issues. The motor itself is designed to be easily maintained and worked on. The bike has been around since 1967. The modern Bonneville is nice but it hardly owes much to its predecessor.
@ripsramblin I don't have time to go down the list, but feel free to google moto guzzi v7 engine issues and you'll see results for multiple forums where hundreds of issues are reported. Me and 2 of my mates also encountered some of these issues. All bike brands have issues but guzzis specifically are nothing but headaches as of the past 8 years or so. I wouldn't buy another other than for the looks. The triumph on the other than has a solid engine but definitely some recalls and mirrior bits that were covered hider warranty like a wire harness
Thanks for the info@@FunWithAJ
I Have a guzzi v7II, and had some problems, with the cylinders and now the abs. In 8 years. The cylinder one was still in guarantee període, but this one will be expensive to fix. The Main problem with guzzi is that belongs to Piaggio, and they are a pain in the ass to send pieces and with the costumer service... Now I'm thinking to go for a triumph...
Both great bikes for sure, maybe not so much for a British winter though!, another excellent review, merry Christmas to you and the family and thankyou for your vlogs across 2023, hers looking forward to more in 24
I love them both. But the Guzzi with its air cooled, 90 degree L twin and shaft drive would be my choice. Even better is the V7 Special with decent clocks, spoked wheels and chromed exhausts. The V7 is very authentic.
Guzzi all the way
Also, i'd go for the Guzzi. It shows a lot more beauty and my mom just moved to the bottom of France while we're from Belgium. So I'm thinking a lot more trips requires a lot more maintenance unless I go for the Guzzi.
I owned a Kawasaki Concours for 14 years. I now have a Meteor 350. I really miss that shaft drive. On the Concours it requires removing the "Pumkin" when changing the rear tire and I would do a fluid change at the same time. Ran a synthetic 75w90 gear oil. Never an issue in over 70k miles.
Very good comparison video! I like the side by sides!
For me Triumph every time, looks, quality, ride and sound. I own the T 100 ‘s big brother the T 120, both awesome IMHO.
I'm really strongly considering either one of these, or possibly a RE INT650. The Guzzi is my current favourite for its extra weirdness, I love cars and bikes with strange engines.
Buy a Guzzi, unless you hate strangers coming up to you & saying, "Nice bike! What is it?" 😉
Mr Darcy is considering a Guzzi 👍🏼
@@viennapalacesomeone asked me a few hours ago this question. He said, really nice bike. What is it? Is it Japanese?
@@edwardsenesac 😆😅😂🤣
I was hoping you'd do this video after reviewing both if them lately.
Triumph 900 suit me with it's lower down torque but the Motoguzzi V7 is stunning to look at & that Italian character of the transverse motor.V7 has the enormous 21Liter tank & if you tour alot be the best choice.V7 is a air-cooled V-twin & shaft drive which will be a winning factor with alot of people.
Triumph sounds awesome has 5gears looks great & for a 900cc bike is quite economical.T100 more pillion friendly,more Dealerships.
My type of riding is better suited to the T100 with alot more torque low down & rides more aggressively.
I love both these bikes & if a Motoguzzi Dealership closer to me could swing that way especially being shaft drive.If I did alot more touring & lived in a huge country V7 for sure but I live in NZ 🇳🇿 a 12-14.5L tank is adequate as long as you can get 200km per tank of gas as the Speedtwin 900 & T100 can.I still can't decide but the fact that Guzzi Dealership is 3hrs away compared to Triumphs 75mins away is a major win for Triumph as is the shaft drive for Guzzi.I will most likely get one of these bikes in a year's time & considering I already own a Triumph trade for another is a option🤔🤔🤔.
@ruahinesrider great to hear 👍🏼
My vote goes to the Triumph, very pretty bike. If it looks right, it normally is and it looks just right to me. Merry Christmas to you all and thank you for keeping us entertained in 23. Best wishes for 24 and I hope you reach that 100k subs.
Good job Ol' Man! I love Moto Guzzi, the Special version actually! Thanks for share!
Great fair review. All the best to you n Darcy for Xmas and the New Year.
Same to you!
Your reviews r the best
I go with t100 because of the vintage look,,the beautiful exhaust shape and the engine of course,,, greetings from Egypt.
No problem with this decision! I'm fortunate to have both a 2020 T120 and a 2023 V7 850 SE. Both very good fit for 6ft +200lbs.
The nearest dealer is over 1500km away. I've done my own service, repairs and mods for years.
Is it possible to service a v7 without having a dealer?
Where I live, there is no Triumph or Moto Guzzi dealer. Not to be rude, but if you have a little mechanical aptitude and a few tools, then you can perform pretty much all the maintenance required. If you're concerned about warranty, etc., then keep records and receipts. If you have issues with the ECU (or whatever it's called) re: fueling ... then you may need a dealer.
For sure, if you live a great distance from the dealership, then, I guess, it's your/our problem.
Don't forget there are lots of other motorcyclists out there as well as forums and TH-cam.
BTW... My T120 still has the "wrench" icon on the speedo after 44k kms!
P.S. I'm in NW Canada
Hope this helps...?
@@stevet599 Thank you for your reply! There are no problems in terms of maintenance, I was more interested in the question of the software, namely, whether the bike can enter emergency mode. I read somewhere that there are craftsmen who rewire the fuel card.
Now you've got me!
I've had several "EFI" bikes with ECU's.... never had an issue.
Check out the various Guzzi forums
(Not really the right place here)
Cheers
@@stevet599 Thank you friend! In fact, why do I lean more towards the v7, ease of maintenance, gimbal, design and a huge fuel tank, which in the conditions of my huge country (Kazakhstan) is a big plus, because at a distance of 300-400 kilometers there is a high probability of not meeting a single gas station.
thank you for a year of excellent reviews fellas.
merry Christmas and a prosperous new year to you and yours.
Many thanks and happy xmas and New year 👍🏼
Great and timely review. Thankfully no need to choose as my ol’ man’s got the T100 and I the V7 Stone. Merry Christmas 🎄
Good choice! Merry Christmas 🎄
Both beautiful bikes. I'd probably choose the T100 due to the styling and the pillion position. I could be persuaded to purchase the Moto Pizza, if part of the deal was that I received assurances that the psychopaths that designed, and worse still, APPROVED, that horrible offset digital monstrosity that ruins an otherwise stunning bike are dealt with appropriately. Nice review; thanks.
You could buy the model with the dual clocks.
I have a V7III with the offset speedo. I mounted my GPS on the handlebar cross brace so it occupies the right side.
If the Speedo had been on center the GPS would look awkward. 😬
So Triumph T(hai) 100 'Green Curry' or Moto Pizza.
Saving jobs in the far East or Europe that is the question.
I would go Guzzi because of larger tank and engine characteristics. I would only change the exhaust because there is something I don't like in the exhaust aesthetic. Of course I would go duel clock and spoke wheels.
As you have said, guzzi V7 has character, T100 is more refined.
I've tested both, and I fell in love with the italian.
Like with women😂
Thanks for doing this.. it’s really changed my perception of Moto Guzzi. I’d agree all it needs is an analog dial to make the choice really tough between the two.. I think now you’d need to keep an open ride and ride them both before you could possibly decide..
Both are beautiful bikes, but I prefer low maintenance. Shaft drive, easy to adjust valves, no cooling system maintenance. Guzzi 4 me.
For aesthetics alone, you should have compared the special to the Bonnie, stone would be better compared to street twin given clocks and wheel differences etc.
V7 850 special is the winner!
I like very much the 270 degree sound of my T100 gold line from 2022!
After some thousand kilometers the stainless steel exhaust sounds a little bit like an old Ducati from the seventies! 😂👍
Best wishes for 2024 from Germany! 🙏
I work as a mechanic at a Triumph dealer. so plenty of opportunity to test drive. I find the T120 too clumsy, but the T100 is much more fun to drive for me. With my driving style on country roads t120 consumption not below 4.5l/100km t100 4.0l/100km. Royal Enfield Interceptor, personally a bad buy for me for rides 300+ km per day not really suitable for 2 from an ergonomic point of view while the engine can easily handle it. Consumption 4.0l/100km. I also started driving a Guzzi and it fits better for me. Maintenance is simple to do yourself, even the valve clearance (bolt and counter nut enfield also). Triumph is equipped with shims. Triumph immediately drives very well.moto guzzi, think after 30,000km, fully broken-in gearbox and engine. it keeps getting more and more fun, but it needs time. my v7iii 750cc stone average consumption drops to 3.6l/100km with an average speed of 48km/h, I always drive with duo mg claims 4.9l/100km. I started driving the 850 stone the day before yesterday. with duo motorcycle is a new demo. average fuel consumption 3.3l/100km. this is the consumption of a 300cc scooter. So ordered a new 850 special. I think fuel consumption and maintenance costs are important these days. Another important tip: never hold the clutch at traffic lights with a Guzzi. This works with a pushrod that runs in greas it will get hot the greas melts and eventually it becomes dry.runs in over time you get a poorly functioning clutch and have to continuously adjust it. Just like old English motorcycles, for example BSA Golden Flash. People who know English motorcycles know what I'm talking about Nothing against this, I have a few myself, it just depends on how you use them.. And ultimately a clutch. which drags and slips after 20,000 km.(triumph and other motorcycles geabox and engine are a unit the pushrod is in the engine, engine oil cools and lubricates it. can handle it well, but I don't think it is healthy in the long term).sorry for my bad English.Greetings from Belgium
Hi could you share what you meant by the T120 being clumsy? I got to test ride it and really loved the ride granted I did not get to ride the T100. I have rodrle a speed twin, liked the T120 better. I want to try riding a z900rs before I make decision.
@@sidharthpalakkode5509 where I live we have many hairpin bends in the mountains that follow each other quickly in steep slopes or descents and the roads are in poor condition and are narrow max +- 1 and a half cars wide sometimes only 1 car wide. On these roads I prefer the T100 Enfield or V7, they are more agile at low speeds max 60 km/h or 38mph and less tiring if you drive all day on these roads. My old BMW 1100GS is much better on this but not comparable to the others. motorcycles. If you are talking about highway use and main roads with higher speeds and wider bends, the T120 will probably be better, but the T100 also does this with ease. you should actually test drive the t100 and the t120 one after the other. You cannot compare the speed twin, it has a different wheel diameter and suspension is adjusted differently and it steers more nervously and wants to fall more into the bend compared to the T100/T120. When it comes to appearance, I think the T120 is nicer than the T100. Construction quality is the same on both models and both can run more than 100,000 km, 62,000 miles. We have a female customer with a T100, which now has 140,000 km, 86,900 miles, without any problems when properly maintained. She does put new oil and filter every 10,000 km, 6,200 miles instead of the Triumph. prescribed 16000km 9900 miles does this have anything to do with it? A salesperson will steer you towards the T120 (more profit). The best advice I can give you is to drive the one's on your wish list and see which one suits your use best and which appearance you like. otherwise you will never be satisfied. The worst for me can be the best for you.
@@riathijs7577 Thanks for your detailed response.. I live in Florida and the roads are flat and wide, probably why I couldnt tell a big difference between the speedtwin and 120.. I did feel the T120 had necessary power for the roads here. I'm probably going to try find one used, first got to give the Kawi Z900RS a shot.
@@sidharthpalakkode5509 Unfortunately I can't say anything about the kawa, I haven't driven it yet. Finding Moto Guzzi dealers in the US is apparently a disaster, but if you have one in your area, give it a try. I have fallen in love with the total concept of the Guzzi. In terms of looks, the t120 wins for me every time. Guzzi less beautiful, but the feeling of riding and the feedback from the motorcycle gives me a smile from ear to ear all day long. He's not the best at anything, but the whole concept is just well balanced. The guzzi gives me a different driving experience and a relaxing feeling. enjoy riding in a completely different way and more of a hangback lazy cruiser kind of feeling. Other naked bikes or retros don't give me this feeling and I ride them much faster to get the same fun factor.Just try and you will gain another experience even if it is not for you, the only thing you lose is time.
"...don't hold the clutch in" LOL ...great if you can get the bike into neutral before the traffic lights change! My V7 850 SE is still very new (
I test rode both bikes earlier this year. The MG was nice to ride but a bit vibby, it definitely had character but the single offset clock was horrible and it wasn't the quality of the T100.
Shaft drive was attractive but in my opinion the Triumph was all around nicer to ride so I bought one.
Informative and entertaining at the same time, just like these bikes you have so much character! I like the new production techniques used during this video, looks very proffesional and fresh, Merry Christmas Ol' Man.
Thank you and Merry xmas to you also 👍🏼
Great Video, I can only assume arranging to have both at the same time is not easy! But this is a really informative format for these Videos. Really enjoying the channel, thanks for your hard work.
Many thanks 😊
Top review thanks. I love the look of the Bonneville from sitting on one at motorcycle live, but there is something about the look and exclusivity of the v twin. Your vids have definitely put it on my radar..
Great to hear 👍🏼
Both on my list for next year, along with th RE Interceptor. Currently leaning towards the Guzzi for the larger fuel tank, shaft drive and relative exclusivity.
Great review. MG V7 Special for me.
The black and red V7 is gorgeous!
Oh!! Cheers! And merry Xmas!🎉
Merry xmas 🎄
Here in Australia i do very long rides covering a few days and i prefer the shaft drive it is just better as you said with no cleaning of chains , my last bike was belt drive too and got nearly 100,000 klm out of that belt
Merry Christmas to you Old Man and to Mr Darcy as well! wishing your families a wonderful holiday :)
You sure do live in a beautiful part of the world, l am most envious!
Whichever you went with, the nearest decent dealership (for either model) might be the deciding factor. For me, the 900 Triumph engine is a peach, smooth with plenty of low end-just how I like it.
Good info, thanks!
I just bought a 2022 T100. So, that is my answer. Both are lovely bikes
T100 all day n all night, love mine 😎👍🏻💪🏻
Great review Sir.
I owned several reiterations of the Bonneville over the decades (1973,2005,2013) and currently own the 2023 Moto Guzzi V7Stone Special Edition
There’s just something about have an old school style motor cycle in the garage for days that you want to slow down and enjoy a machine in its simple form.
All wonderful motor cycles.
I own both the T100 and V7 Special. I would say however that the Guzzi feels more nimble than the T100. I also test rode the T120 and found that bike to be very sluggish, in fact more so than any other of the many bikes that I have owned, hence also more than the T100 (TAYM, The All Year Motorcyclist youtuber, had the same experience and traded his T120 for a T100). Also at very low revs, e.g. in 2nd before a sharp bend, the T100 looses its refinement a bit. That said they both really are great bikes and I would not know which one to choose if I had to (although I do hate chain maintenance..).
Awesome, great to own both 👍🏼
I couldn’t buy the Guzzi with cast wheels or those clocks and headlight… I just couldn’t. The Special I could consider… but not that one. I agree about mudguards..!
I have owned two Bonnies, lovely bikes, no complaints. Always wanted a Guzzi and hopefully one day I will. If I had to choose between I would go for the Guzzi for one main reason! I have a 40 year old BMW and I have never had to adjust, clean, lube or change the chain and sprockets 😂 not to mention how easy it is to clean the rear wheel.