CHAINSAW SHARPENING... WHEN? - A WOODCAST WITH TONY!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 8 ก.ย. 2024
- Today we talk about the ways to sharpen chainsaws and it is sure to cause a lot of anger from people who think it can only be done one way...they all work and some are faster and some are more expensive to do. Hand filing, bench grinding, rotary tools with stones, a rock...what ever you like... We are sitting down with @TonysCoolTools and talking about Chainsaw sharpening.
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Always great to see Brooks & Dunn back together!
Ha! Thanks, tomorrow is another one!
First off, glad to see another woodcast, informative and entertaining. I think you fellas explained it spot on.
Thanks Bobby!
I tried the Stihl 2 in 1 tool and that's all I use now. I have been really impressed with the results...it is easy, quick and cuts like a brand new chain.
I had the same experience and results. 👍🏻
Great to hear!
Can you spell PFERD ? The Pferd Chainsharp ( used by Stihl 2in1 with official orange.white and more $$$ ). I've tried to get these guys ( Chris & Tony) to use it..butt. No power. Does edge AND raker with each pass. NOT for skip chains. Sized for the 3 most common chain sizes. Used it for years. Oh yes, the Pferd is a lovely blue. It's elegant "hand" filing. JMNSHO
For many years, I could get chains from Bailey's for $9 and they would cut 9 truck loads. Around here, the shop was charging $6 for sharpening, so I was buying 10 new chains every spring. I found a friend that had a bench grinder and now he sharpens them for me once a year. I had 90 chains that had never been sharpened. Recently, I started sharpening with the Dremel after watching Chris do it. I love it and it is nice using a sharp chain every day. I touch them up at the end of each day. I was never able to get my chains sharp until I used the Dremel. Love your videos and seeing you at places like the hysteria.
Thanks James!
Great discussion! I learnt a lot! Thank you both!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Good morning Chris and Tony!!
Nice to see both of you guys together!!
Take care my friends!!😀😀💚💚
Logger Al
Good morning Al!
Good to see the two of you and your comedy routine again. Good topic today. I use several different methods of sharpening, it depends where I am, how much time I have . Everyone is right and everyone is wrong. Love watching .
Thanks!
On a rainy day here in the northeast you guys were hilarious today.
Thanks !!
You guys put the no guts no glory in perspective! As awesome as hard work pays and no nonsense approach to sharping what is best “FOR YOU” is best advice!!
Wow, thank you!
Nothing better than a sharp chain!👍👍
They are nice but I can think of a few things better!
NAILS ! My arch enemy.
Found 16 of em in just 2 rounds of soft Maple.
My poor dremel needs a vacation.
OUCH!
You guys do a comedy skit along the way with both channels 😮😊❤
Thanks! We do have fun!
Good morning Chris and Tony nice to see you together again in Kapuskasing we change thy angle in the winter time / to | like that ( ty Ron
Yup, frozen hard maple is nasty stuff!
WAIT ! Not knowing how to sharpen is like being almost pregnant ( add this to the comedy routine ). For this very aging non pro harvesting the 6-8 real cords plus trail clearing each year, the ONLY sharpener I use on the 3 saws is the PFERD CHAINSHARP for each chain variety ( it's the same bought by the Stihl 2in1 , butt blue ). NO power needed. It does the edge AND raker with each pass. And furthermore, with a stump vise, I can always sharpen out there. Yes, I save old chains, and bring an extra chain (s) out with me for the occasional rock or round in a tree. Great chat and info as usual from you two buddies. THX.
Yup, sharp is good!
Friggen awesome vid
Thanks!
Good work Chris, good to see To y on the channel again. Great information from 2 full sticks of gum. GNI
Thanks 👍
For mods or stock to-each-your-own, as for me i went n got the bark box n clutch cover. The reason(s) for that is 1. More power is always nice, 2. The sound(my preference). 3 I do occasionally rip(did today)n wanted a non-clogging chip discharge. I dont look back at buying both he bark box n church cover good purchase n my opinion n no i don't cut alot of wood but wen i need it i have it. Can't wait for more wood(pod)casts
okay!
Bring back the woodcast!!
We just did.
Great to see you guys enjoying it. Treat for us.
Always! Thanks!
You guys did a great job.
Thanks!
I cut firewood covered in sand for years went through so many chains & files! Great videos Chris & Tony!
Yup, sand can get ya dull fast!
Lol you got that right Chris. I won't run my wallenstein processor and 592xp cutting unless I wear my radio ear muffs. The big husk is loud.
Yup, my hearing is important!
You are dead on.A sharp chain is your best friend. I learned to hand sharpen a chain out of nesity because nobody else could.I can sharpen a chain cat claw sharp.I will usually touch up my chain as needed. I have been trying a dremel some and there is a learning curve. I will get as good as Chris with a little more practice. Keep up the good work fellows
Yup, sharp is good no matter how you do it!
Excellent content. Thoroughly enjoyed listening to that discussion. At the end of the day, the correct way to sharpen a chain is what works for the individual. The timber I am cutting in eastern Australia demolishes normal steel chains. So I’m using Tungsten tip chain, usually on a 18” or 20” bar. The only issue is when you hit something like rocks, it rips the teeth clean off. I usually have 6 or more chains and every 2-3 tanks (592XP) I swap out the chain and flip or swap the bar.
Wow tough wood!
Great to see you both together again , I was thinking more Laurel & Hardy🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣. And Tony with a Husky cap on.
That hat helps his looks!
If you don't hit anything, a dull chain sneaks up on you. Sometimes I check the sharpness of the chain between tanks just to see if I hit something that I didn't notice. I learned so much on chain sharpness from your channel. I didn't know how bad it was for a saw to run a dull chain until watching your early videos explaining the consequences of running a dull chain.
Yup, it can dull slowly and then when you sharpen it's like ...wow!
WOW, YOU GUYS NAILED IT. Nice job. Your yesterdays video finally showed me why you like the 24 inch bar. I use only use 24 and 28. You have a lighter saw than me and when I use my 28 I notice I keep my saw closer to my side where as I saw you stretch out farther than me, but I am very comfortable with the 24. Thanks for mentioning the files wear out.
Glad to help!
We had an event one year at our Columbus Day Woods Man competition where we built an open topped trough out of beach planks. The inside of the trough was twelve inches. The beachwood trough was filled with beach sand. Each on the stand had to make two cuts down through the sand, drawing the sand through the beach plank.
He could then file. He then ah a white oak can't marked out at one inch intervals. He had one inch to cut down through the white oak can't, then up through, then bore through with the chain he had resharpened from dull.
This was a timed event.
Nice one...I like it!
G’morning GentleDudes. Great conversation and sage like advice. I use a bench mounted for my 5 chains. Sharpen allll of them at once, and switch out as needed. Thanks Fer Da show !!
GoodNightIrene
Right on...I like it!
Love these manly informational talks.
Thanks, girls are welcome too! They look better!
Awesome to see you two back together !
Thanks!
Nice job Chris & Tony. What I’ve learned is that sharpening a chain is a moving target. Things just don’t stay consistent with tooth hardness, file/grinder wheel quality,etc. Seeing,hearing and feeling what the file is telling you helps but adapting your sharpening to the conditions is at least as important. GNI
Yup, it is very touchy topic for some.
I’ve cut for quite a few years but I’m willing to try other methods to see if it works better of if it’s faster. I’m all for doing something easier or faster.
Go for it!
I sharpen chains for a couple neighbors as well...I find it more difficult to do theirs because of not knowing how it was cutting before they removed it. Nothing is more exhausting then a dull chain!
Yup, I bet they don't worry about rocks or nails if you will sharpen for them.
🤘
Thanks!
Good talk and full of experience, knowledge, wisdom.... Thanks Tony, Chris!! GNI
Glad you enjoyed it!
Tony and Chris, very good video. Great talk with the right amount of humor. Thanks guys.
Glad you enjoyed it!
I learned how to file from you guys and @BuckinBillyRaySmith but once you learn about the angles, the gullet and the burr, you can easily get what you need for most bucking and felling with a Dremel and it is a LOT faster. I do make an effort to not let the tooth get red hot. The only time I hand file now is if I had to go somewhere with my saw but it was too far to bring the cordless Dremel along. Nothing against the guys who want to go the extra mile with the hand file, it is an art, and I appreciate it. Tony, it might be worth your while to just drive separately when you're with Chris. 🤣🤢
Yup it is good to know when your saw is sharp!
I always took for granted my father sharpening my saws , and I never learned myself.
I would swap to new and save the dull ones to be sharpened by the shop. .
But the price for then to sharpen kept going up and I jokingly told the owner if the price kept going up , I would have to learn how to sharpen!
Let's just say now I got it !
Awesome, being able to sharpen your own chains is a great skill to have!
Here a video cut fir and cedar look 👀 up A toast TO THE LOGGER by Marcel Levesque . Shane Nicholson hand falling tree falling . Chris & tony back in my young day in western coast Canada 🇨🇦. 😊
Thanks Leonard!
I bought one of the sharpeners that you clamp on and crank it in. It was supposed to be the best thing sense sliced bread. It was garbage. The dremmel is my favorite. A file next.
Good to know! Thanks!
Great advice guys! Keep up the great work.
Thank you! Will do!
Good topic today. I know when I have to sharpen as it's like cutting stuff with kindergarten scissors and not momms good fabric scissors.
Exactly!I like that one...I will use that!
Always good to see you guys together, Good information for people of all sharpening skill levels!
Glad you enjoyed it!
I had to laugh when you talked about rocks near the bottom which reminded me of a couple obstacles I ran into,
a 5 ft steal fence post with no wire hooked to it that had grown upright about 4 inches into the tree,
another was an electric fence porcelain about 10 ft off the ground that had grown into the tree also about 4 inches.
Makes a person very leary to cut anywhere close to any fields or property lines that may have had fences that the farmer may have used trees for fence posts
Yup...fence lines are danger zones for wire, nails, staples, bolts, hinges, metal posts, rebar and other goodies!
Lots ways to sharpen. I can hand sharpen but I don’t most time. I use the rotary tool for couple touch ups. Then when get a pile of chains I bring back to life with bench grinder and take rakers down. How did ya get Tony to were that nice hat 😂
Yup, good system you have! The hat helps his looks...a little.
You two are pretty sharp! 😂Good stuff Tony and Chris! 👍🏻👍🏻GNI
Thanks 👍!
Good morning tony and Chris great little video. Sharpen a chainsaw right is a personal trade in life . Got to know your wood 🪵 hard or soft to sharpen your chain right . I work with logging guys from 289 to 410 guys on chainsaw. Everyone got there own logging tricks in sharpen with a hand file . Good files and chain come with a name , don’t buy junk like for less money 💴. Hard wood got a different angle and cutting soft for sure . If you don’t get a 100 cords on a chain something is not right on hardwood. Rake come down to the type of wood 🪵 you are cutting to work right . If your a good hand filer your chips are long and curl with length with different woods . If you look 👀 on U tube there own 2% that are true logger. The other 98 % think 🤔 there logger keep dream 🛌 in my 2 cent about sharpen chainsaw. Long bar in my life time was 42” on 15 feet around in soft or hard tree . In my height my favourite is 32” bar use all life . Chris 562 XP two yrs ago took down 52” pine with a 18” bar . There tricks of the trade who holding the chainsaw . Just show guy with a 562 XP it can be done . He words with No BULL SH…T I can sharpen a chainsaw and use it pine scale out 3100 board feet at the saw mills . Cut any tree with a chainsaw if it’s sharpen right bottom line Chris & Tony. 😊
Yup, sharp matters!
Awesome video guys you really got to the meat of the subject not just how to but also why and the do's and dont's
Thanks!
He's like used gum 😂
Yup, hard to get rid of!
👍👍👍
Thanks!
I find hand filing relaxing much like hand loading ammo. If you start getting close to the witness mark move down a file size. Cuts great. I’ve found that the Husky raker gauge works nicely. Too bad chains are not like sawzall blades where can get “wood with nails” versions. Fun show thanks.
Yup, the fastest way to find a nail or wire in you wood is to put a new chain on!
I use a Harbor freight bench grinder to get them close and then hit them with the hand file and check the rakers.
Nice!
Do you sell any merch? I’d love to get a T-shirt for my husband who’s retiring soon and can’t wait to spend more time doing “wood management” on our property. He loves your channel and has learned a lot!
I never really got into stickers or shirts yet. Email me at chrisinthewoodyard@gmail.com and I will see if I have any shirts left..
Really enjoyed this video. I sharpen every time I fill gas tank. And people think I'm wasting chains? I don't get it, chains aren't that expensive. Thanks again. New Hampshire wood cutter.
Exactly!
Good info for Newbies.
We all had to learn, and if you are too old to learn, you're probably dead!
Yup!
Great video!! Understand y'all are busy, but these type of videos are necessary!! Stay Hydrated and Have a Safe Day
Thanks! You too!
Are local shop, cowlitz river rigging. Makes a custom made square sharpener stone.
Id send bert one, but at near $350 with base shipping.
its a little out of my budget.
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A box of 12 square files goes for near $200
Anything made decent anymore, is just dumb dumb expensive.
That is stupid expensive!
And no Fiskars tools were spared in this clip, good review
Thanks!
2 woodhound icons..😊
Thanks, just two guys with saws that like to talk.
I use a Stihl 261 with a standard chain that uses 3/16" file. I have heard of some people who will use 7/32" with good results. I have done a "touchup" with 7/32" stone on Dremel and seem to get better cutting. What is you recommendation on using a slightly oversize file or grinder?
It depends on the tooth length and your sharpening skill. I like the 7/32 stones the best.
Hey Chris, I'm prolly wasting my breath as I got the ol "OK" pfo the last time I mentioned this about the last 1/3 of the tooth life from a chain but if you take a swipe or 2 off the side of the raker & she'll cut fast....
I will try it sometime! Thanks!
Agree, Even more so on stihl hexa.
Three score and ten, and more depending on strength. And, maybe if you invented a chainsaw muffler!
okay.
Hahahahahah. Excellent video. I sharpen, until the bloody thing is sharp. It ain't sharp? It won't cut.
The biggest thing that helped me hand filing. $2 file handle. Around the 4th sharpening, I will use a jig, to straighten the angle out. I cut primarily hard wood. Usually a dead fall or dead standing. Chain has gotta be sharp.
yup!
Good Morning Woodhounds!!(-:
Morning!
Most ported saws make more noise, so I understand that aspect of the debate, If a ported saws cuts say 10% faster and you cant make more time how is saving time not making time🤔? 1%💩😁 Maybe you could do a companion video of a Bert grind on a new chain vs a Bert grind taken down to a nub and compare times?
Yup, I agree but I value my hearing WAY more than more wood faster. Ported saws are VERY loud even with plugs and muffs.
@@InTheWoodyard The porting does not make it noisier, it is the modification of the exhaust to get the full benefits of the port work modest gains can be made without going crazy on the exhaust. Main reason the 592 is loud is the lack of internal baffles in the exhaust ie open exhaust.
Why is Tony wearing the funny hat?
I helps his looks a lot!
Hello Chris and Tony✋
Did you say Chris’s Wood is Hard😁
Just watch Bert Sharpened his sons saw
Haaa!
Do you ever use the Dremel to turn Down the rakers?
Yes I have... but found it hard to be consistent in the amount of material removed.
for a chainsaw virgin who just got his first saw a few months ago .... am i fine sticking with the stihl 2n1 sharpener ?
Yup, the 2 in one is a good tool.
Do you have any particular brand of chain that you favor.
They all cut but some might cut a little better and longer like the Husqvarna, Stihl and Oregon chains. Keeping it sharp is the challenge.
I’ve cut a shit tonne of wood and there are still things I won’t try
ok
Tony! Great!
Well...maybe good...great??? Haaaa!
@@InTheWoodyard 😲😂🤣
You guys are great together ... just saying.
Billy RAY says ... get the gullet :)
Yup, it's his thing.
Was there any gum exchanges?
Yup, I found a used hard sandy piece on the ground for him!
I was thinking of getting a bench grinder do you think it takes more or less material then other methods
They do work well!
It depends on the operator but it's easy to take off excessive amount. Also be careful not to overheat the tooth.
Dull...again..like T-paper.
Yup, it happens!
Tony you hat 😱🤢😂😂
Yup, he is non denominational!