Relevant Stuff about the new 1.12 update! Sacred Order glitch STILL WORKS, oddly enough. Thought that would be patched. Jellyfish Shield nerfed from 20% > 12.5% Terra Magicus nerfed from 35% > 22.5% Black Flame Protection is seemingly unchanged, but based on the patch notes it could be referring to stamina damage when blocking, not negation itself. Flaming strike's buff is unchanged but the skill has reduced damage now. Cerulean Hidden tear was nerfed in Duration from 15s > 10s. Still not a problem for any well-made magic build to One-shot with. I've made a video about that. Various other buffs and weapons were nerfed in terms of status buildup, including bloodflame blade. This part doesn't affect the tables because I don't list exact status buildups anyway Buff Tables and Calculator are currently updated for 1.12, but NOT for DLC yet. I'm doing a blind DLC run for another video, so it will take time before the tables/calculator include those.
@@AlphaSeagull is the jellyfish and terra magicka overall or just PVP? Kinda disappointing in the sense that the shield is heavy and takes up a slot until the buff runs out, and Terra Magicka takes time to cast and then it's stationary, especially as a caster where you might want to run out of it to get further from the boss after they approach you. Plus I find it's really easy to NOT be overpowered in the DLC so having things that are maybe a LITTLE overpowered seems like a good compromise as an optional feature for anyone struggling.
Also it seems a little sketchy to "nerf status buildup" when that's one of the only things used in a true arcane build, but I haven't made an arcane status build yet and some of them ARE pretty easy to proc so I can't say for certain. But I don't thing poison for example should take too long to trigger since it's something you kinda need working ASAP so the damage has time to play out. Also if nerfing the cerulean tear still allows one-shot builds if you research, it seems like it's not really a nerf to it being OP and just nerfs regular players trying to save some FP. Like I might use it to add some buffs or summon a spirit but even just a few buffs and a spirit I'll run out of time and still spend a chunk of FP, just kinda makes it more of a chore to decide what's faster/slower and what takes more FP and is worth getting free. Idk though 'cause again I haven't done a magic one shot build. FP is easy enough to come by for me that it's fine if I don't even use the tear but I'm certainly WAY less likely to use on my faith build if it's just 10 seconds, makes other tears seem much more worthwhile.
@@Redart15 so Sacred Order (not to be confused with SHARED order) is a weapon buff, and weapon buffs typically ONLY affect the weapon you cast it on, and go away the moment you swap out the weapon. Sacred Order, for some reason, doesn't do the first part. If you cast Sacred Order on one weapon and do something with the other, it'll be affected by Sacred Order. Not just weapons either, everything you can deal damage with. So the idea is that you cast Last Rites (an aura buff that gives +100% undead damage), Sacred Order on left hand (+100% undead damage weapon buff, but affecting everything) and finally Sacred Blade (+100% undead damage weapon buff with an attack) for a total of 8x undead damage.
@@JS-lx1kr you played ds on release ? Wow i bet ur such a incredible human being wit a lean aethethic build a girlfriend and a bright future ahead of you right
@@thatboylookcold8961 you can also get the same using any of the free mods that let you get items, lol. P2W mentality is rotting your brain on a mostly single player, 0 microtransactions game.
@@thatboylookcold8961 scam or not, buying buying resources in any game that lets you farm them infinitely is an objectively bad idea. Not only are you just better off using cheat engine to get the things you want (there's ways to do this without getting banned), but as I've already stated, there's almost always a skill or spell that gives a similar buff, so even if you're not on PC there's little to no reason to do this. Doesn't matter how low the cost is or how legitimate the business is. The last thing we need in the gaming community is adding microtransactions to games that don't have microtransactions
From the book of the Tarnished; " If done correctly, buffing up for the fight should take longer than the actual fight." Your videos are really good. Fun to watch and great that you show step by step what to do.
“Use buffs… but not as many” really describes what I’m looking for here 😂 I think the big stack setups are still good to know for your average player so you don’t try something out and have them conflict
Don’t shit on your own creations, especially if they’re for others benefit. Your calculator idea is perfect, it’s hard to get artistic with something that’s a utilitarian use. No one should expect that and I appreciate you putting it out there for everyone. Thank you man!
I've been playing this game since release and have only been buffing since Bayle. I messed up stacking by not knowing there can only be one per category rule or whatever. This is really helpful, basically giving people like me a whole new game to play essentially
As a Souls newb, Elden Ring was my intro, first playthru was a sorcerer (I know now) no buffs, no summons. When I found out about Buffs, I almost procked madness. lol. Love the depth you can add or not in your gameplay.
Just if you get I mean a really good build. I mean a build that is good for not just attack power but attack speed and buffs with status build-up plus extremely good hit-boxes then plus it being a non dlc item. You should probably keep quiet otherwise miyazaki might patch it. That way you can have a bit more fun if the game patches the dlc items.
i was so into the video and that snif at 7:45 PULLED ME OUT. I could feel that snot going down my nose and throat. Hope you feel better! Great video, ill use all of ur teaching to one shot radahn Came back to say i used half the build, switched the bleed for poison and used the rot dagger super jump dive (forgot the name) it does massive damage after you poison him Thanks man
That screen you put up for the holy based damage works great when paired with the Sacred Relic Sword, once I finished the buff rotation I switched to the Sacred Relic Sword in the off-hand and killed the Death Rite Bird in Charo's Hidden Grave on NG+7 in 2 hits, first hit did about 32.5k damage with a Wave of Gold Ash. Great guide, will be looking into more fun combinations with your supporting links.
the sniff at 7:45 made sub to the channel cuz I was like is that me because ain't no way he edited his vid and left that in but it seems you're just like me fr fr
I'm never gonna understand the "dOn'T uSe X iTeM/sTrAtEgY iN a SiNgLePlAyEr ExPeRiEnCe ThAt'S nOt HoW yOu PlAy ThE gAmE" perspective. Like brother YOU AREN'T EVEN IN THE SAME GAME AS ME
This goes for spirit ashes too. Especially in the DLC where they're really encouraged. It's okay to do no ashes as a challenge, just like it's okay to do no shields, or level 1, or no upgrades, etc. But as far as just avoiding "easy" mode and not trying to do "hard mode" like a level 1 run, people forget there's a "normal mode". If the mimic tear with rivers of blood and the most optimised stats and buffs feels too easy, instead of playing without spirit ashes to make the game "normal mode", you can just use the worse ashes. If you genuinely want a "hard mode" then don't use any ashes, and/or limit your levels or upgrades or allowed types of equipment, etc. Also people will say spirit ashes are easy mode but then use ashes of war, and even the less powerful ashes of war are often really strong compared to just R1 spam, so why does nobody ever say using ashes of war is "easy mode"? Just because they don't use rivers of blood, ashes of war in general are fine, but even if you don't use mimic tear or Tiche, spirit ashes are considered OP just because people assume everyone will use only the best ones.
Like for Malenia I tried Latenna who can be pretty good, but it didn't help even slightly, she did a little damage, distracted Malenia briefly for me to hit her, then got the crap beaten out of her bringing Malenia all the way back to full HP, so she just wasted time. Not nearly as strong as the people equipping crazy gear and rotten meatballs and summoning mimic tear, who do objectively have an easier time in the fight.
I carry around an unleveled Stormhawk Deenh for the same reason, low FP req and gives a really good buff when it screams ( I think its +20% physical, stamina, and poise dmg that stacks with other buffs). Has little impact on the fight outside of the buff he gets off once usually and maybe 1 "free" heal
@@Heowolf that sounds about right for the buff. I think it DOES overlap some buffs like it's an aura buff or something maybe? Not one of the unique buffs that stacks with everything. But yeah, that one, Therolina, I think it's the other perfumer that gives you an opaline bubble thing occasionally? Maybe something like Aurelia or rot dogs to aid with status build in the start or distract the enemy/boss. Lots of good options to just get creative or have fun.
@@concerninghobbits5536 Oh yeah mb, it's def an aura buff. It overwriting uplifting just looked like multiplicative scaling since it's a better buff in general lol.
A programmer here with too much time on their hands and love for elden ring.. if you need help with such things like the table ( even if making it look/behave nicer ) I'd be happy to help, thanks for the vid 🤟🏻
Most games I play I love the paladin type characters. A big bonk plus a few buffs. Haven’t tried the super one shot builds, but using a weapon and body buff feels right in a fromsoft game.
@@jdbly5934 Yeah that's gonna perform alright, but it's worth noting Howl of Shabriri doesn't proc the dumpling helmet unless you completely build up madness with it. Your setup would perform the same if it was just Physick > Vow > Ironjar (both fgms and howl are body buffs, so they get overriden by Ironjar)
I'm honestly really surprised how popular that doc got lmao. I'm actually planning on making a quick-start guide video that goes over a very similar build, so that's gonna be fun when I get around to it
@@actuallyfungi1384I forget how well it's aged cuz it's been a while since I read the document but here it is docs.google.com/document/d/1nknMNkH_8Ix9YoMvYiQndd5rBWBpAEN2tMBWH88nC2g/edit?usp=drivesdk Basically the context was that somebody in early 2023 was asking for a recommendation for a sword and shield type build, and my reply was so long it turned into a Google doc. People really liked it.
- starts duel - opponent buff stacks for 5 mins like a dweeb - opponent gets hit with leda sword AOW after last buff - opponent gets one shotted, cries
@@FranciscoCamacho-lb9bx Nope! I've tried this and it doesn't work. Neither does Spiked Cracked Tear. However, both of those DO work on all the roar-type weapon buffs that affect your charge attack. Those aren't affected by shard or godfrey icon, but they are also affected by Roar Medallion and Highland Axe. Haven't tested if two-handed talisman works on either Dark Moon nor Roar buffs yet (I've noticed it doesn't typically work on skills) but I should test that eventually
@@AlphaSeagull It doesn't affect the projectile, but it does affect the melee hit part of the R2, which also has a hitbox. So you can pretty much treat it as a normal charged attack during fights and do massive damage if you hit with both.
Godfrey icon only works on certain charged skills and spells \incantations it's so difficult finding the inns and outs with how much misinformation there is on the topic of elden ring even the fextrawiki is wrong a lot
NGL I was trying to kill Radahn with a Dark Souls build but I got so tired of it. I eventually caved and changed to an Elden Ring build. Then he died on the first try. I smiled and then I blew up the Erdtree.
“That’s a boring way to play” ur gonna need to take that up with fromsoft brother cuz it is also easily the most optimal way which means objectively the game heavily incentives u to play in this way off of its mechanics if u think this is boring tell that to fromsoft and tell them they shouldn’t make it by a landslide the strongest way to build a character
"some might argue that's a boring way to play" ≠ "I think that's a boring way to play and care enough to complain about it" Personally, I have more fun breaking videogames than playing them so I have no issues playing like this. It's almost like I said that in my intro. And I think a big reason people find it boring is BECAUSE it's strong. It's not that the game is promoting an optimal way that's boring, it's just that playing optimally is often inherently boring in any game you play. The goal of the "optimal" build in any RPG is to actually have to play as little as possible. This isn't really an issue with Elden Ring, it's an issue with any videogame with a complex build system, so "telling that to FromSoft" would change basically nothing.
Well now with the new DLC stuff you can have poison hand in off-hand, mushroom crown and kindred of rot exultation. Use the skill of deadly poison perform to poison yourself, all 3 activate and buff you for about 41% damage/20sec. The rest your build would depend on the attack you're actually using
Isn’t the twinblade build a lot worse since the powerstance status nerfs? I don’t know a ton about this game but I’d like to hear your thoughts on double weapon status buildup since it’s only gotten more confusing for me
Yes that's why I recommended dual seppuku instead of the bleed/frost combo. The damage is still fantastic, you're just not as likely anymore to land both bleed and frost before the boss dies so you might as well use double bleed
Can you recreate the tank rust Rosen ring all hit run vs radahan video with your buff routine and commentary on the build properly and the great tune you would recommend
Let's say hypothetically you're missing a couple items like Shard of Alexander, Magic Scorpion, Dark Moon Greatsword, and all of spellblade armour set, what would be some valid replacements for those?
So as a ranged caster (who cant get the scorpion talisman right now as selvenus is dead). I should at least use jelly fish shield, the correct armor pieces to increase magic skill damage, boiled crab meat, and what else? Golden vow
Ok so this mostly depends on your main spell of choice. I usually go for Night Comet on INT builds cuz they're pretty strong. If you're on NG+ or have a friend willing to trade one with you, it's best to have 2 staves of loss because you can have one in each hand and double stack the buffs from them. Otherwise you can use staff of Loss in left hand and the best spell scaling staff you have on the right (usually this is Lusat staff). There's no harm in using jellyfish Shield and casting with Staff of Loss, especially if you care about FP consumption, but either combining Lusat+Loss or Loss+Loss will result in more damage than jellyfish would give you, even before the recent nerf As for armor, you should only be using spell-blade set if you're using magic SKILLS specifically, as it doesn't work on spells. If you're going full caster no weapon, you don't have to use that armor. For talismans you probably want both school-graven and mass-graven talisman, which are stackable for some reason, as well as Godfrey Icon (you can charge each shot) and where magic scorpion would typically go, you can put something defensive like Dragoncrest Greatshield Talisman. If you wanna go even more defensive you can swap school-graven with basically anything else that helps you tank better since it's only a 4% boost. From here, your other buffs are boiled crab (good choice) and golden vow (skill on a dagger), then physicks should be Magic-shrouding tear and any other tear of choice (I recommend opaline hardtear) and, if the boss allows it, you should try pulling off a terra magica and/or a couple Ranni's Dark Moons. If you only have time for one, pick the dark moon. Not only is it a relatively strong spell, but it's also already a -10% magic negation debuff, and if frost procs, it's -20% on everything, stacking with the initial debuff for 32% more damage. Main stats should be Vigor and INT of course, only getting what you need for the rest. Armor should be as strong as you can realistically manage without heavy rolling. If you wanna go full glass cannon, not only would you need the scorpion charm, but there's also ways of fitting in the low HP buffs and bleed buffs with seppuku, then you'd need 80+ INT and 33FTH to use Howl of Shabriri snd the golden vow spell which is stronger than the skill. That said I don't think a build like that is gonna work in the DLC for most people lol
@@jmg24bad It it makes you feel better, in the DLC I've stopped using the scorpion talisman because I needed more defense (swapped it for Dragoncrest Greatshield). I only put it on if while exploring I need slightly more damage for either DMGS waves or Loretta's Greatbow to kill in one attack instead of leaving the enemy with a sliver, but for boss fights I always take it off now. (ng+ with 80 int for context)
Wait, the damage boost from uplifting aromatic is an aura buff? I thought it was a body buff since it didn't stack with bloodboil aromatic. I will have to test this!
Are these buffs ok Dumpling mask Flask (bloodsucking tear/ thorny cracked tear) Howl of shabriri Golden vow Commanders standard Or Lord of blood exultation instead of millicents prothesis _________ Flask (bloodsucking tear/ thorny cracked tear) Howl of shabriri Golden vow Commanders standard Sepuku
@@AlphaSeagull or can I do Dumplng mask with *aged ones exultation talisman which increases dmg when proc madness Flask (blood sucking/thorny cracked tears) Proc madness (Howl Of Shabriri) Golden Vow Switch to white mask Switch to lord of bloods exultation Sepuku ;)
@@DM_MD_DMyes, as I've talked about at 3:50 the buffs stick around after removing the item, so you can do hardswapping strats like this. I don't like hardswaps personally but they definitely work.
It's on the later half of this video th-cam.com/video/Lb0fRDaXGtc/w-d-xo.html just swap the bloodboil for FGMS, and swap the frost twinblade for another seppuku one, and you're golden
Wait, Shard of Alexander actually works with Dark Moon Blade? I never use it on that build because my initial testing showed it doing exact similar numbers. Have I been nerfing myself or does it still not work with Dark Moon Blade?
Bro the wight mask give you 10% bleed and the talisman of bleed give you 20% in elden ring wiki .. so if i wear the mask and the talisman is it give me 30% ? Or just one of them work ?
@@Nioh193 even better. Not only can you stack both of them, but they stack Multiplicatively (as everything does in the game) so you can have on both and get 32% more damage. With poison you can stack mushroom crown + kindred of rot + poisoned hand the same way, and with madness you can stack Black Dumpling + Aged One's Exultation + Madding Hand as well
@@1SlyGuy yeah the bubble effect from Uplifting Aromatic (the part that negates 90% for one hit) is considered a unique buff, but the 10% physical attack is considered an aura buff. That one's a bit confusing
quick question. i see in a lot of run videos that sometimes people apply their buffs before entering the boss arena and apply the rest after they are in the arena. what is the reason for that? sorry if i missed it in the video
Usually the reason for someone to do this is that the buffs that they're applying in the arena have such short durations that they have to do it this way so it doesn't run out before the fight is over
@@AlphaSeagull Ahh ok i had a feeling that was the case. I was thinking that certain buffs gets erased by the fog wall before entering so people wait till they are inside. This game gets so confusing so quick i swear smh
@@stevenprice5681 I'm sure they're around somewhere, but what a lot of people don't talk about is the fact that a good level 300+ build is just a slightly stronger or more versatile level 150 build. You're still gonna be using almost all the same stuff aside from maybe a stronger buff you have the FTH for, or a different weapon/affinity that gives you better scaling for your stats. Neither of these are gonna massively change the effectiveness of your build, so just use your best judgement for those extra levels and you'll be fine
Anything you can deal damage with actually. Consumables, spells, skills being used by the other weapon, everything. Now, you're probably asking this so you can try holy pots. It DOES work, but it's not gonna give you as much damage as Sacred Blade will, at least when the weapon's upgraded.
Just saw your video, thats crazy, damn. I wanting to make a rellana build, since i love these weapons from the dlc a lot, but i'm not sure if you can really break the game with them in a way other weapons can do it? They scale with 4 different stats but i'm not quite sure what i should pick there exactly
I actually started using Rellana's swords a lot in the DLC! I noticed it pairs pretty well when combined with FGMS, Golden Vow, Fire Scorpion Charm, Shard of Alexander, Milicent's Prosthesis and Rotten Wing Sword insignia. For Physicks, use Flaming-Shroud tear and Thorny Cracked Tear. The idea is that you can either use the Fire attack and combo R1s off it, or use a bunch of R1s and combo into Fire attack. Definitely not as game-breaking as other strats and there's probably more you can do with it, but it's pretty reliable and fun. That's how I beat Blackgoal Knight. As for scaling, you just ignore INT past 20 and go all in on FTH for this strat
@@AlphaSeagull oh thats sick, thank you so much! that actually helps me a lot for my Build. Rn i thought i gonna pick around 60 vigor, 30 Endurance, 20 strength, 50 dex, 20 INT and 30 faith Tho i think i should maybe put more into faith instead of dex for this to work properly? I was thinking about golden vow and maybe the commander's Standard, sadly i dont have rotten sword insignia, just the normal one, but i'm currently about to finish the alexander questline to get his shard haha
@@Derdaida Just a heads up, how Rellana's swords work is that the right one scales off str/dex and Int, while the left one scales off str/dex and Faith. This is because the right sword does physical and magic damage, while the left does physical and fire damage. You can almost think of it like powerstancing two differently infused weapons.
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Relevant Stuff about the new 1.12 update!
Sacred Order glitch STILL WORKS, oddly enough. Thought that would be patched.
Jellyfish Shield nerfed from 20% > 12.5%
Terra Magicus nerfed from 35% > 22.5%
Black Flame Protection is seemingly unchanged, but based on the patch notes it could be referring to stamina damage when blocking, not negation itself.
Flaming strike's buff is unchanged but the skill has reduced damage now.
Cerulean Hidden tear was nerfed in Duration from 15s > 10s. Still not a problem for any well-made magic build to One-shot with. I've made a video about that.
Various other buffs and weapons were nerfed in terms of status buildup, including bloodflame blade. This part doesn't affect the tables because I don't list exact status buildups anyway
Buff Tables and Calculator are currently updated for 1.12, but NOT for DLC yet. I'm doing a blind DLC run for another video, so it will take time before the tables/calculator include those.
@@AlphaSeagull is the jellyfish and terra magicka overall or just PVP? Kinda disappointing in the sense that the shield is heavy and takes up a slot until the buff runs out, and Terra Magicka takes time to cast and then it's stationary, especially as a caster where you might want to run out of it to get further from the boss after they approach you. Plus I find it's really easy to NOT be overpowered in the DLC so having things that are maybe a LITTLE overpowered seems like a good compromise as an optional feature for anyone struggling.
Also it seems a little sketchy to "nerf status buildup" when that's one of the only things used in a true arcane build, but I haven't made an arcane status build yet and some of them ARE pretty easy to proc so I can't say for certain. But I don't thing poison for example should take too long to trigger since it's something you kinda need working ASAP so the damage has time to play out.
Also if nerfing the cerulean tear still allows one-shot builds if you research, it seems like it's not really a nerf to it being OP and just nerfs regular players trying to save some FP. Like I might use it to add some buffs or summon a spirit but even just a few buffs and a spirit I'll run out of time and still spend a chunk of FP, just kinda makes it more of a chore to decide what's faster/slower and what takes more FP and is worth getting free. Idk though 'cause again I haven't done a magic one shot build. FP is easy enough to come by for me that it's fine if I don't even use the tear but I'm certainly WAY less likely to use on my faith build if it's just 10 seconds, makes other tears seem much more worthwhile.
How does the Sacred Order glitch even work? Like I couldn't reproduce it.
@@Redart15 so Sacred Order (not to be confused with SHARED order) is a weapon buff, and weapon buffs typically ONLY affect the weapon you cast it on, and go away the moment you swap out the weapon. Sacred Order, for some reason, doesn't do the first part. If you cast Sacred Order on one weapon and do something with the other, it'll be affected by Sacred Order. Not just weapons either, everything you can deal damage with. So the idea is that you cast Last Rites (an aura buff that gives +100% undead damage), Sacred Order on left hand (+100% undead damage weapon buff, but affecting everything) and finally Sacred Blade (+100% undead damage weapon buff with an attack) for a total of 8x undead damage.
@@AlphaSeagull Would love to see an updated video with all the new stuff added in the DLC and an updated calculator.
remember in dark souls when you were tryhard if you infused a weapon
@@JS-lx1kr what does that have to do with anything lol
@@JS-lx1kr damn bro youre right youre so cool im so bad youre so awesome
@@JS-lx1kr wrong channel for this kinda toxicity buddy. We're all "noobs" here
@@JS-lx1kryou got to be a little kid or something.
@@JS-lx1kr you played ds on release ? Wow i bet ur such a incredible human being wit a lean aethethic build a girlfriend and a bright future ahead of you right
Me casually "stacking" 4 buffs from the same group for the whole 90 hour first playthrough. At least the placebo helped
Mans tricked himself into believing he's better, thus making him better
Me, a melee only player who hoards every single consumable and never uses any watching this video: interesting
I still hoard consumables lmao. Like 9/10 times if there's a skill/spell that can give a similar buff as the consumable, I'll just use the skill/spell
@@thatboylookcold8961 that’s a scam
@@thatboylookcold8961 you can also get the same using any of the free mods that let you get items, lol. P2W mentality is rotting your brain on a mostly single player, 0 microtransactions game.
@@thatboylookcold8961 stop advertising a scam, how pathetic could you be?
@@thatboylookcold8961 scam or not, buying buying resources in any game that lets you farm them infinitely is an objectively bad idea. Not only are you just better off using cheat engine to get the things you want (there's ways to do this without getting banned), but as I've already stated, there's almost always a skill or spell that gives a similar buff, so even if you're not on PC there's little to no reason to do this. Doesn't matter how low the cost is or how legitimate the business is. The last thing we need in the gaming community is adding microtransactions to games that don't have microtransactions
From the book of the Tarnished; " If done correctly, buffing up for the fight should take longer than the actual fight." Your videos are really good. Fun to watch and great that you show step by step what to do.
Vigor doesnt rhyme with tiger, it rhymes with bigger
I got in the habit of pronouncing it this way because twitch got obsessed with a different word it rhymes with
Yeh came here to say the same
@@AlphaSeagull lol if you have to mispronounce words to keep twitch chat from dropping the N word, there's something very wrong
It adds to channel lore
More like 'ogre' right ? I call it "Vi-gore"
Glad I found this. Been using black protection and crab. Didn't know they were in the same category
I hate when I undo the dark blessing of the god slayers by eating a crab afterwards 😢
god bless you man coding a calculator for us is insane effort
thanks!
Love seeing someone explain this in a way that's actually understandable, and also discussing how the durations overlap. Great video!
“Use buffs… but not as many” really describes what I’m looking for here 😂 I think the big stack setups are still good to know for your average player so you don’t try something out and have them conflict
Don’t shit on your own creations, especially if they’re for others benefit. Your calculator idea is perfect, it’s hard to get artistic with something that’s a utilitarian use. No one should expect that and I appreciate you putting it out there for everyone. Thank you man!
I've been playing this game since release and have only been buffing since Bayle. I messed up stacking by not knowing there can only be one per category rule or whatever. This is really helpful, basically giving people like me a whole new game to play essentially
ayo perfect timing i was just watching the old guide and realized a lot of buffs/nerfs happened since then so this is much needed thanks :D
As a Souls newb, Elden Ring was my intro, first playthru was a sorcerer (I know now) no buffs, no summons. When I found out about Buffs, I almost procked madness. lol. Love the depth you can add or not in your gameplay.
Bro, i was just discovering your old buff videos westerday and you upload this one, what a timing (sorry my english is bad)
Your english is good dude. Just thought you should know lol
your english is better than some people I know
Just if you get I mean a really good build. I mean a build that is good for not just attack power but attack speed and buffs with status build-up plus extremely good hit-boxes then plus it being a non dlc item. You should probably keep quiet otherwise miyazaki might patch it. That way you can have a bit more fun if the game patches the dlc items.
I love westerday (your english is fine)
i was so into the video and that snif at 7:45 PULLED ME OUT. I could feel that snot going down my nose and throat. Hope you feel better! Great video, ill use all of ur teaching to one shot radahn
Came back to say i used half the build, switched the bleed for poison and used the rot dagger super jump dive (forgot the name) it does massive damage after you poison him
Thanks man
LOL same! instantly felt it going down my throat and had to click off video! disgusting bro. learn to edit
@@DeathstarsEG damn i thought it was funny 😭
Gawddaaaamn i didnt know this was a DarkSydePhil channel
This is my first time looking something like this up only because of rahdan
Ok glad to hear I’m not alone.
Radahn who is vulnerable to a cheese so easy you don’t take damage? Weird
I was just watching your buff guide from a year ago & clicked on your channel & saw this new one from only 2 weeks ago, sick dawg thank you.
So much great resource! Might be the best Elden ring buff video I’ve seen, thanks AlphaSeagull! ❤
This was interesting to know. I was only using Golden Vow and Fire Buff. Thanks brother!
Watching this reminds me of how if I didn't see a video of someone grabbing the physick I would have no clue what buffing is
the intro aged well lol
That screen you put up for the holy based damage works great when paired with the Sacred Relic Sword, once I finished the buff rotation I switched to the Sacred Relic Sword in the off-hand and killed the Death Rite Bird in Charo's Hidden Grave on NG+7 in 2 hits, first hit did about 32.5k damage with a Wave of Gold Ash. Great guide, will be looking into more fun combinations with your supporting links.
Thank god for this guide. I had no idea what I could or could not stack
I’m not gonna be using this but it is pretty enjoyable watching you essentially breaking the game. It’s very fun. You got a subscriber.
I will never even considder to use it. Not even in ng+6 but thanks for the video. Really a great video to educate
thanks a pillar in any community you are apart I know God will bless your soul 1000 times over
“Yeah I’m learning how to get buff.”
the sniff at 7:45 made sub to the channel cuz I was like is that me because ain't no way he edited his vid and left that in but it seems you're just like me fr fr
I'm never gonna understand the "dOn'T uSe X iTeM/sTrAtEgY iN a SiNgLePlAyEr ExPeRiEnCe ThAt'S nOt HoW yOu PlAy ThE gAmE" perspective. Like brother YOU AREN'T EVEN IN THE SAME GAME AS ME
Here’s me already knowing how to dodge and still using Rob cuz it’s the coolest weapon in game
bro u uploaded ts at the perfect time😭
This goes for spirit ashes too. Especially in the DLC where they're really encouraged. It's okay to do no ashes as a challenge, just like it's okay to do no shields, or level 1, or no upgrades, etc. But as far as just avoiding "easy" mode and not trying to do "hard mode" like a level 1 run, people forget there's a "normal mode". If the mimic tear with rivers of blood and the most optimised stats and buffs feels too easy, instead of playing without spirit ashes to make the game "normal mode", you can just use the worse ashes. If you genuinely want a "hard mode" then don't use any ashes, and/or limit your levels or upgrades or allowed types of equipment, etc. Also people will say spirit ashes are easy mode but then use ashes of war, and even the less powerful ashes of war are often really strong compared to just R1 spam, so why does nobody ever say using ashes of war is "easy mode"? Just because they don't use rivers of blood, ashes of war in general are fine, but even if you don't use mimic tear or Tiche, spirit ashes are considered OP just because people assume everyone will use only the best ones.
Like for Malenia I tried Latenna who can be pretty good, but it didn't help even slightly, she did a little damage, distracted Malenia briefly for me to hit her, then got the crap beaten out of her bringing Malenia all the way back to full HP, so she just wasted time. Not nearly as strong as the people equipping crazy gear and rotten meatballs and summoning mimic tear, who do objectively have an easier time in the fight.
Couldn't agree more my friend
I carry around an unleveled Stormhawk Deenh for the same reason, low FP req and gives a really good buff when it screams ( I think its +20% physical, stamina, and poise dmg that stacks with other buffs). Has little impact on the fight outside of the buff he gets off once usually and maybe 1 "free" heal
@@Heowolf that sounds about right for the buff. I think it DOES overlap some buffs like it's an aura buff or something maybe? Not one of the unique buffs that stacks with everything. But yeah, that one, Therolina, I think it's the other perfumer that gives you an opaline bubble thing occasionally? Maybe something like Aurelia or rot dogs to aid with status build in the start or distract the enemy/boss. Lots of good options to just get creative or have fun.
@@concerninghobbits5536 Oh yeah mb, it's def an aura buff. It overwriting uplifting just looked like multiplicative scaling since it's a better buff in general lol.
“You lil gremlin, clutching onto your rivers of blood”
Almost got me to sub right away
Amazing work. It makes my min/max powers tingle.
We playing SHIN MEGAMI TENSEI with this one!
Thank you for the screenshot of your RL1 build! Would love to see a video of it! And maybe what's possible without a rune arc!
New to this game and knew about certain things working at a time. This is helpful. 🎉
Very nice content bro, keep it up. The idea of a site is really good, i wish you good luck and i really belive in this site's potential !!
7:48 did you get affected by your own frost buildup?
A programmer here with too much time on their hands and love for elden ring.. if you need help with such things like the table ( even if making it look/behave nicer ) I'd be happy to help, thanks for the vid 🤟🏻
Most games I play I love the paladin type characters. A big bonk plus a few buffs. Haven’t tried the super one shot builds, but using a weapon and body buff feels right in a fromsoft game.
I really enjoy watching videos about how to build in Elden Ring.
But when I play the game, I just having fun without doing the buff. 😂
A really informative video and a pleasure to watch! I don’t sub or like everything, but you deserve it I’ll be watching more of your content 😻
Thanks for the info! Hope you get more subs, you definitely deserve them 😊
W ,i don't know about buffs like i got 0 knowledge about them but this vid... W man!
This is so good but my adhd is so strong that I just unga bunga bosses.
My knowledge about buffs : wonderous physik
Spend all this yime buffing the Consort Radahn smacks me up 😂
Only thing I’d suggest for magic skills or sorcerers: use Terra Magica. Even in this fight, that would have made a noticeable difference
Absolute champion, thank you for this!
its so funny seeing incantations that were horrible for my character one shot bosses for others
You literally deserve a billion subs
Hero’s don’t always wear capes
I use the same buff routine for every boss: Physick, Golden Vow, FGMS, Howl of Shabriri (with Dumpling helmet), and lastly Ironjar Aromatic.
@@jdbly5934 Yeah that's gonna perform alright, but it's worth noting Howl of Shabriri doesn't proc the dumpling helmet unless you completely build up madness with it. Your setup would perform the same if it was just Physick > Vow > Ironjar (both fgms and howl are body buffs, so they get overriden by Ironjar)
Tarnished, I give you the gift of golden grace. Go forth... and earn your PhD in buff stacking then become Elden Lord.
Great Vid, also I'm pretty sure you're the same guy who made that Sword and Shield Build Docs TY for that.
I'm honestly really surprised how popular that doc got lmao. I'm actually planning on making a quick-start guide video that goes over a very similar build, so that's gonna be fun when I get around to it
Where's the docs?
@@actuallyfungi1384I forget how well it's aged cuz it's been a while since I read the document but here it is
docs.google.com/document/d/1nknMNkH_8Ix9YoMvYiQndd5rBWBpAEN2tMBWH88nC2g/edit?usp=drivesdk
Basically the context was that somebody in early 2023 was asking for a recommendation for a sword and shield type build, and my reply was so long it turned into a Google doc. People really liked it.
@@AlphaSeagull this is sick thank you for posting the link
This is super helpful for me. Thank you!!!
- starts duel
- opponent buff stacks for 5 mins like a dweeb
- opponent gets hit with leda sword AOW after last buff
- opponent gets one shotted, cries
I'm such a hug fan
Same I love hugs 😅
On dark moon greatsword you can use axe talisman to boost the ash of war as it comes from a charged atack
@@FranciscoCamacho-lb9bx Nope! I've tried this and it doesn't work. Neither does Spiked Cracked Tear. However, both of those DO work on all the roar-type weapon buffs that affect your charge attack. Those aren't affected by shard or godfrey icon, but they are also affected by Roar Medallion and Highland Axe. Haven't tested if two-handed talisman works on either Dark Moon nor Roar buffs yet (I've noticed it doesn't typically work on skills) but I should test that eventually
@@AlphaSeagull It doesn't affect the projectile, but it does affect the melee hit part of the R2, which also has a hitbox. So you can pretty much treat it as a normal charged attack during fights and do massive damage if you hit with both.
Godfrey icon only works on certain charged skills and spells \incantations it's so difficult finding the inns and outs with how much misinformation there is on the topic of elden ring even the fextrawiki is wrong a lot
@@Ecliptor. That's a great point, but I think if you were going close-range melee with this build in the first place, better melee options exist
Good work man, this info is soo helpful to know
Earned a sub from me. Love the buffing in ER
Glad i found this video. Thanks ya
Hey that's what I'm doing rn, looking for that fun in the grey
NGL I was trying to kill Radahn with a Dark Souls build but I got so tired of it. I eventually caved and changed to an Elden Ring build. Then he died on the first try. I smiled and then I blew up the Erdtree.
I did this and then smirked and said, heh guess your not getting the elden ring 😂😂
“That’s a boring way to play” ur gonna need to take that up with fromsoft brother cuz it is also easily the most optimal way which means objectively the game heavily incentives u to play in this way off of its mechanics if u think this is boring tell that to fromsoft and tell them they shouldn’t make it by a landslide the strongest way to build a character
"some might argue that's a boring way to play" ≠ "I think that's a boring way to play and care enough to complain about it" Personally, I have more fun breaking videogames than playing them so I have no issues playing like this. It's almost like I said that in my intro.
And I think a big reason people find it boring is BECAUSE it's strong. It's not that the game is promoting an optimal way that's boring, it's just that playing optimally is often inherently boring in any game you play. The goal of the "optimal" build in any RPG is to actually have to play as little as possible. This isn't really an issue with Elden Ring, it's an issue with any videogame with a complex build system, so "telling that to FromSoft" would change basically nothing.
Exactly, who's gonna actually let you do all those buffs. This ain't an anime
@@TortillaBill only every boss with a fog wall lmao
DLC give us some new buffs, some are consumables. Hopes you update soon.
bro missing the dodges due to the amount of algebra he's currently doing mid fight
I’ll work on your front end with you seems fun
this whole time i’ve been using flame grant strength golden vow and howl of shabriri 💀
same 😂
Damn that’s a big buff
I love you alphaseagull
We need new buff stacking guides for the dlc because of the new tailsman
Already on it 😉
Say Fig... now replace the F with a V.. Vig.... now add Or to the end... Vig-Or....
Bro stop you are scaring the arcane & dex stans
is there any notable buffing to be done for faith builds except for the regular flask+vow+shabriri ?
Well now with the new DLC stuff you can have poison hand in off-hand, mushroom crown and kindred of rot exultation. Use the skill of deadly poison perform to poison yourself, all 3 activate and buff you for about 41% damage/20sec. The rest your build would depend on the attack you're actually using
@@AlphaSeagullwould it be just as good if you use an item to induce poison?
Anyone who still think comet azur does more dps than ADLS just has not used or seen anyone use ADLS
my advice is to just use two rusty anchors always fun. and op as fck.
Isn’t the twinblade build a lot worse since the powerstance status nerfs? I don’t know a ton about this game but I’d like to hear your thoughts on double weapon status buildup since it’s only gotten more confusing for me
Yes that's why I recommended dual seppuku instead of the bleed/frost combo. The damage is still fantastic, you're just not as likely anymore to land both bleed and frost before the boss dies so you might as well use double bleed
@@AlphaSeagull thanks! :)
Can you recreate the tank rust Rosen ring all hit run vs radahan video with your buff routine and commentary on the build properly and the great tune you would recommend
I am not going to recreate another TH-camr's content as a video lol, sorry. Thanks for the suggestion though
Let's say hypothetically you're missing a couple items like Shard of Alexander, Magic Scorpion, Dark Moon Greatsword, and all of spellblade armour set, what would be some valid replacements for those?
A different build lmao
oh so I've been over writing my fkame grant me strength with black flame this entire time?
So as a ranged caster (who cant get the scorpion talisman right now as selvenus is dead). I should at least use jelly fish shield, the correct armor pieces to increase magic skill damage, boiled crab meat, and what else?
Golden vow
Ok so this mostly depends on your main spell of choice. I usually go for Night Comet on INT builds cuz they're pretty strong.
If you're on NG+ or have a friend willing to trade one with you, it's best to have 2 staves of loss because you can have one in each hand and double stack the buffs from them. Otherwise you can use staff of Loss in left hand and the best spell scaling staff you have on the right (usually this is Lusat staff). There's no harm in using jellyfish Shield and casting with Staff of Loss, especially if you care about FP consumption, but either combining Lusat+Loss or Loss+Loss will result in more damage than jellyfish would give you, even before the recent nerf
As for armor, you should only be using spell-blade set if you're using magic SKILLS specifically, as it doesn't work on spells. If you're going full caster no weapon, you don't have to use that armor.
For talismans you probably want both school-graven and mass-graven talisman, which are stackable for some reason, as well as Godfrey Icon (you can charge each shot) and where magic scorpion would typically go, you can put something defensive like Dragoncrest Greatshield Talisman. If you wanna go even more defensive you can swap school-graven with basically anything else that helps you tank better since it's only a 4% boost.
From here, your other buffs are boiled crab (good choice) and golden vow (skill on a dagger), then physicks should be Magic-shrouding tear and any other tear of choice (I recommend opaline hardtear) and, if the boss allows it, you should try pulling off a terra magica and/or a couple Ranni's Dark Moons. If you only have time for one, pick the dark moon. Not only is it a relatively strong spell, but it's also already a -10% magic negation debuff, and if frost procs, it's -20% on everything, stacking with the initial debuff for 32% more damage.
Main stats should be Vigor and INT of course, only getting what you need for the rest. Armor should be as strong as you can realistically manage without heavy rolling. If you wanna go full glass cannon, not only would you need the scorpion charm, but there's also ways of fitting in the low HP buffs and bleed buffs with seppuku, then you'd need 80+ INT and 33FTH to use Howl of Shabriri snd the golden vow spell which is stronger than the skill. That said I don't think a build like that is gonna work in the DLC for most people lol
@AlphaSeagull this is really thought out and I'll read through this and come back to let you know how I fare!
@@jmg24bad It it makes you feel better, in the DLC I've stopped using the scorpion talisman because I needed more defense (swapped it for Dragoncrest Greatshield). I only put it on if while exploring I need slightly more damage for either DMGS waves or Loretta's Greatbow to kill in one attack instead of leaving the enemy with a sliver, but for boss fights I always take it off now. (ng+ with 80 int for context)
@AlphaSeagull your advice did work for me and as I get stronger it's easier to do massive damage to bosses
7:48 swallows mucus
Wait, the damage boost from uplifting aromatic is an aura buff? I thought it was a body buff since it didn't stack with bloodboil aromatic. I will have to test this!
Are these buffs ok
Dumpling mask
Flask (bloodsucking tear/ thorny cracked tear)
Howl of shabriri
Golden vow
Commanders standard
Or
Lord of blood exultation instead of millicents prothesis
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Flask (bloodsucking tear/ thorny cracked tear)
Howl of shabriri
Golden vow
Commanders standard
Sepuku
@@DM_MD_DM Golden Vow can't stack with Commander standard as they're both Aura buffs, but otherwise it looks fine
@@AlphaSeagull or can I do Dumplng mask with *aged ones exultation talisman which increases dmg when proc madness
Flask (blood sucking/thorny cracked tears)
Proc madness (Howl Of Shabriri)
Golden Vow
Switch to white mask
Switch to lord of bloods exultation
Sepuku
;)
@@DM_MD_DMyes, as I've talked about at 3:50 the buffs stick around after removing the item, so you can do hardswapping strats like this. I don't like hardswaps personally but they definitely work.
I might be dumb but can you link me your bleed twinblade build? Couldnt find it in your vids 😂 anw great vid 👍🏻
It's on the later half of this video th-cam.com/video/Lb0fRDaXGtc/w-d-xo.html just swap the bloodboil for FGMS, and swap the frost twinblade for another seppuku one, and you're golden
Thank you so much!
The only and truly op builds are buffs😂❤
Did he just "Hey hey people" us?! 😅
Wait, Shard of Alexander actually works with Dark Moon Blade? I never use it on that build because my initial testing showed it doing exact similar numbers. Have I been nerfing myself or does it still not work with Dark Moon Blade?
Apparently it works on the beam but not the actual blade
Bro the wight mask give you 10% bleed and the talisman of bleed give you 20% in elden ring wiki .. so if i wear the mask and the talisman is it give me 30% ? Or just one of them work ?
@@Nioh193 even better. Not only can you stack both of them, but they stack Multiplicatively (as everything does in the game) so you can have on both and get 32% more damage.
With poison you can stack mushroom crown + kindred of rot + poisoned hand the same way, and with madness you can stack Black Dumpling + Aged One's Exultation + Madding Hand as well
Does golden vow not stack with uplifting aromatic? I saw uplifting on the unlimited chart but also on the body aura chart
@@1SlyGuy yeah the bubble effect from Uplifting Aromatic (the part that negates 90% for one hit) is considered a unique buff, but the 10% physical attack is considered an aura buff. That one's a bit confusing
quick question. i see in a lot of run videos that sometimes people apply their buffs before entering the boss arena and apply the rest after they are in the arena. what is the reason for that? sorry if i missed it in the video
Usually the reason for someone to do this is that the buffs that they're applying in the arena have such short durations that they have to do it this way so it doesn't run out before the fight is over
@@AlphaSeagull Ahh ok i had a feeling that was the case. I was thinking that certain buffs gets erased by the fog wall before entering so people wait till they are inside. This game gets so confusing so quick i swear smh
Are there videos on builds with higher levels like 350 and up?
@@stevenprice5681 I'm sure they're around somewhere, but what a lot of people don't talk about is the fact that a good level 300+ build is just a slightly stronger or more versatile level 150 build. You're still gonna be using almost all the same stuff aside from maybe a stronger buff you have the FTH for, or a different weapon/affinity that gives you better scaling for your stats. Neither of these are gonna massively change the effectiveness of your build, so just use your best judgement for those extra levels and you'll be fine
@@AlphaSeagull I’m looking for the sacred black great hammer setup that is similar to blasphemous blade
what about rune arcs. are they part of the special or are they an aura buff or a body buff
They're part of the special category, almost like a passive effect from your gear.
2:47 Gearter Barriers
Lmaoo
Btw how does the sacred order glitch work does it work on all weapons or is it used for consumables
Anything you can deal damage with actually. Consumables, spells, skills being used by the other weapon, everything.
Now, you're probably asking this so you can try holy pots. It DOES work, but it's not gonna give you as much damage as Sacred Blade will, at least when the weapon's upgraded.
Just saw your video, thats crazy, damn.
I wanting to make a rellana build, since i love these weapons from the dlc a lot, but i'm not sure if you can really break the game with them in a way other weapons can do it? They scale with 4 different stats but i'm not quite sure what i should pick there exactly
I actually started using Rellana's swords a lot in the DLC!
I noticed it pairs pretty well when combined with FGMS, Golden Vow, Fire Scorpion Charm, Shard of Alexander, Milicent's Prosthesis and Rotten Wing Sword insignia. For Physicks, use Flaming-Shroud tear and Thorny Cracked Tear. The idea is that you can either use the Fire attack and combo R1s off it, or use a bunch of R1s and combo into Fire attack. Definitely not as game-breaking as other strats and there's probably more you can do with it, but it's pretty reliable and fun. That's how I beat Blackgoal Knight.
As for scaling, you just ignore INT past 20 and go all in on FTH for this strat
@@AlphaSeagull oh thats sick, thank you so much! that actually helps me a lot for my Build.
Rn i thought i gonna pick around 60 vigor, 30 Endurance, 20 strength, 50 dex, 20 INT and 30 faith
Tho i think i should maybe put more into faith instead of dex for this to work properly?
I was thinking about golden vow and maybe the commander's Standard, sadly i dont have rotten sword insignia, just the normal one, but i'm currently about to finish the alexander questline to get his shard haha
@@Derdaida Just a heads up, how Rellana's swords work is that the right one scales off str/dex and Int, while the left one scales off str/dex and Faith. This is because the right sword does physical and magic damage, while the left does physical and fire damage.
You can almost think of it like powerstancing two differently infused weapons.
700 hours in never buff stacked I wanna learn just beacuse it looks cool asf
The real pros lobotomize themselves prior to every new game.
@@jellydamgood the only true souls experience is brain damage