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BETTER THAN CURRY?? | Reacting To The Best Larry Bird 3 Point Shooting Story Ever Told
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- BETTER THAN CURRY?? | Reacting To The Best Larry Bird 3 Point Shooting Story Ever Told
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Hes not blaming curry hes blaming the rules.. if bird played in todays game he'd dominate even more.
Not really.
The rules are made by the system. The refs follow the rules. It was ok to bump and grind in the old NBA. Nowadays you can't just have contact or trash talk without risk of fouls.
100 percent agreed
Couldn't agree more. Multiple years winning 3 point shootouts ...he " was money as one player said Bird was playing chess while the rest of us were playing checkers while always dealing with his back and still dominated all those pros who are now in the HOF
â@@Newportnews98ya,really he would.
Unlike Larry or MJ, Steph isn't rebounding or driving to the hole.... No Way!!!
What???? So how does he have 2 scoring titles with just 3s????
Curry has to be set to shoot his 3 pointers. I canât remember the last time, coming out of a time out Curry shot a 3 down by 2 points with less than 5 seconds left to win the game. Larry Bird and Reggie miller could be fighting for position without the ball catch it with 2 seconds left on the clock and sink the 3. That is the difference.
ðĪðð.... 1 thing most people forget, the 3 point shot wasn't a part of the game ð until Larry was a *Rookie* in the NBA!!! It didn't EXIST! Not only did Larry claim *"Rookie of the Year"* .... He *DOMINATED the 3 Point Game!!!* Especially with his pull back jumper or *ONE FOOTED SHOTS ððģðĪŊð*
Its the soft rules not the refs and that's the point
"Bro sounds like me when I'm defending Lebron" that had me weak and kudos to you for being self aware about it lol
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Steph and ray allen shot threes their whole life. The nba diidnt implement the 3 until the year before bird came into the league. So he literally developed the 3 during his playing time in the nba. Imagine how good bird would've been at 3's if hed practiced it his whole life like Steph and ray Allen. Hes one of the best to do it and literally was learning as hes doing it ðð
3 point line was introduced to the NBA 1979-80... Bird's rookie season. His teammate Chris Ford made the first one in NBA history (10/12/1979). Bird was on the floor when it happened
I'll take Larry Bird every day and twice on Sunday. Bird was savage.
If Larry played today and was healthy he would literally dominate 100% of every player in the league. This includes Curry and Lebron. ALL OF THEM. None of them are close to him.
Respect to Coop and Dominique for speaking facts. JJ Redick needs to get another job other than sports broadcasting. LOL.
see while Curry and Ray Allen are mOSTLY 3 points shooters, 3 point shooting was a SMALL part of Larry's game.
Thatâs a lie
@@Newportnews98 we can compare their stats? lol
Bird, 24 points, 10 REBOUNDS, 6.3 assists, 1.5 steals, .8 blocks..
lol NIETHER Curry Nor Ray Allen have THAT kind of production OUTSIDE of their shooting. oh my bad, Curry can drive (with contact) and can pass a lil. .lol SHOOTERS vs Bird, an ALL AROUND PLAYER.. LIES? no you are just BUTT hurt by REALITY.
@@Newportnews98 In 1976, the ABA and NBA merged. *The 3-point shot, at first, wasn't part of the package. The NBA stayed firm in the game's traditions. The league didn't adopt the 3-pointer until 1979--Magic Johnson and Larry Bird's rookie season.* While certain college basketball conferences experimented with it in the early '80s, the NCAA didn't universally implement a 3-point line until 1986, with high school basketball following suit a year later.
I do not understand how a man can state openly that Curry IS NOT a clutch three point shooter -
then go on to claim Curry is the greatest three point shooter.
Greatness REQUIRES clutchness.
Curry is Proficient. Even the Most Proficient All-time. That's not nothing. But Greatest All-time? Not for me.
Ray and Curry played high school and college ball with the 3-point shot in place. The 3-point shot didn't exist until Bird's first year in the NBA so threes were just another shot for him until then.
The refs call what the league tells them to call in the preseason. The calls mold the game as the owners want.
My family is a rodeo family. We own a bunch of horses. We have 2 that are high bred, high dollar and absolutely gorgeous. They win a lot. I own many more horses that are bred well, not as beautiful or striking, but they give you the same performance every time. Their work ethic and technical abilities will always get you in the top 5.
Thatâs the difference between a workhorse and a show pony. Some are just nice to have, a joy to behold and they earn their keep. But those workhorses are the backbone of our operation. Hands down.
LOL, the NBA today should qualify for Hollywood awards, no defense and great acting!
What it had to do with it is LeBron got his feelings hurt by a fan. Players today are too pampered. You can't breath on a shooter without getting a foul called. Looks like WWE out there, with all the bad acting looking for a foul. Just sayin'ð.
Heâs not blaming Curry, heâs stating a fact that Bird had people hanging on him anywhere on the floor, but still made the shots. Also, Curry grew up with the 3 while Bird NEVER shot or hit a 3 until he got to the NBA, yet dominated the 3.
Whoever edited the video rigged it to make it seem like Larry was hating on curry in that Dan Patrick interview and he wasnât. They clearly chopped pieces together to fit the agenda of Larry downplaying curry. Fake news.
I think you're missing the point. What if bird wouldve shot 30 3's a game he would've made 15 of them too lol so yes if you throw up a bunch you will make a bunch.
Best clutch player. Larry Bird. He was never my guy but give him his due. You never wanted to be close in score with a team Larry Bird was on.
They didnt ask Bird if Curry was the best three point shooter of all time. He was asked if he was the best shooter.of all time. Those are two separate questions I believe Curry is the best three ball shooter of all time. But, his 47% from mid range doesnt sit well for the best. Bird was 51% from mid range. Ive watched the NBA since 1972. Ive never seen anyone hit more clutch sots at all ranges than Bird. And I was lucky enough to be there when Bird hit that shot against the Suns. It was like midnight at the morgue when that ball popped the net.
Bird has more attempts at the mid range. And by your logic jordan is the greatest shooter.
I donât care. Call ANYONE the greatest shooter of all time. Curry? Fine. For anybody that watched Bird for his entire career, you just know. Talk is cheap. When your ENEMIES say youâre the best, youâre probably the best ð
You're misunderstanding what is being said. Most people do that intentionally because they want Curry to be the best shooter of all time. I don't think you're doing it intentionally but you can only judge a player by what they did in their era because you can't compare growing up shooting 3's your whole life with just getting a 3 point line your first year in the NBA. There has to be context taken into account.
Bird won on more last second 3 points than anybody. He missed one. Out of all of them
i guess lebron kicking a fan out shows how mentally weak he is? I remember back in the 90s at Mets games, SOME fans where known to throw double aa batteries at the opposing team.. the rules in the arenas are FAR more strict nowadays.. Shoot I remember Shea staduim had to get over 100 cops to ensure the saftey of John Rocker a pitcher for the Braves.. different times.. different times.
1986 NBA finals. Ask Ralph Sampson how he felt going into the Garden for that last game.
@@trekkiexb5 lol probably not good
Let's flip the question around. Would Curry be as great a 3 point shooter if he was playing Larry's era?
I'm inclined to say yes he would but that I don't think Larry and Curry would be taking anything away from each other. If anything it might drive them both to become even better than they were.
When Jordan was talking about 3 pointers, he broke finals record for 3's in the first half (6 3 pointers , 35 points in 1 half )
LET'S BE REAL MAN. YOU TAKE AWAY CURRY'S 3-POINT SHOT, AND HE'S NOT EVEN IN THE LEAGUE!
Heâs an elite finisher and playmaker so wrong. Plus, youâre taking away a skill which heâs spent countless hours on. Unlike height for example, if Giannis was curryâs height he wouldnât be in the league because heâs the worst shooter outside of the restricted area in the NBA.
They are not blaming Curry. How silly. This eraâs game is unarguably soft compared to Birdâs era. The 80âs refs werent calling it unless they saw blood. Now? Sneeze on someone and it is a foul.
Bird played in a man's league. Curry plays in a women's league. The end.
I am with the people who say that the 3 point shot has ruined the game...The NBA has to go back to the old school way...That way it will weed out the real players from the soft players like Lebron...Every time he has the ball and someone is close to him he acts like he just got shot...it's sad
Bird is the best CLUTCH shooter of all time,& Jordan is second.
LaBron was an example of how prima donna the players are. That wasn't about LaBron himself. That was the easiest and most high level version of what he was trying show. The difference? Watch the 1986 NBA finals. The Last game, where the Boston fans had blow up dolls dressed as Ralph Sampson (Rockets Center) hanging from the upper deck. People holding signs saying "Ralph I'm 5 foot, you'd hit me too!" and booing him every time he TOUCHED the ball. All because he slugged one of the Boston bench players during game 5 in Houston. Both the bench player and Sampson got ejected. Do you see that in ANY game today? No. And some of that is good, but some of that is bad.
Look. This video wasn't about Steph Curry or Larry Bird really. It was JJ Reddick mocking '80's basketball. In a couple of sentences he insulted an entire decade of basketball. Larry and Curry were just the instruments of the chaos.
FYI, Cooper was arguably one of the greatest defensive players of his era. Bird calls him the toughest defensive player he ever faced. Magic credited Coop with 1 to 2 of the Laker's rings.
Curry has never hit a game-winner ever! Bird hit 18. Bird was an assassin.
Larry was a better three point shooter. Larry was the best all around basketball player ever
Bro, do you actually think NBA refs have the power to call the game according to their own basketball beliefs???
A slip up happens. We are all human. As long as you clarifiy it, most people will let go. This is the SECOND time Reddick has insulted generations of players of the past. He said the plumbers and Firemen comment. And he didn't apologise for clarify it either. So yeah, older players were pissed.
Bird is the greatest clutch shooter in history
21 minutes of a man in denial.
Whatever your opinion of Curry or BirdâĶBird won the first three 3 point contests âĶand never entered another oneâĶCurry has been in 5 and didnât winâĶforget three pointsâĶBird was the founder of the 50-40-90 clubâĶtwo years in a rowâĶ50% from the floorâĶ40% from 3 point range and 90% from the free throw lineâĶplus he joined Bill Russell and Wilt Chamberlain as the only 3 to ever win MVP back to back to backâĶ3 in a rowâĶand as a coaching 1998..voted Coach of the YearâĶand as the front office guyâĶin 2012âĶvoted NBA Executive of the YearâĶhe may not be your best 3 point shooter but he was high in every category and one of the best passers of all timeâĶ25 points a game..10 rebounds..6 assistsâĶa couple of stealsâĶand 90% from the lineâĶand the 3 point line did not exist until the year after he signed his first contractâĶit did not existâĶand he sat out a year after double Achilles surgeryâĶin the Pacers playoff gameâĶgoing for a loose ball..his head smacked and bounced off the floorâĶafter the trainer looked him over, he came back out to play with a fractured right cheekâĶa concussion and double vision and scored 17 more pointsâĶ
Coop aint lyin
Bird was the GOAT hitting clutch shots and 3's i would pay to see them today shoot 3's
Yeah, the game has totally changed. They don't work for the win anymore. They would rather hit boring 3's rather than doing the hard work to make plays inside. It's not much of a true game. It's more of a show, and fans are getting tired. I am more impressed by watching earlier basketball than today's basketball. It's actually exciting to watch those older games.
Coop telling the truth
refs do what they are told to do
Basketball has become a game of prima donnas. I stopped watching it more than 10 years ago.
Larry Bird was the best all around player to grace the court.
JJ REDDICK ITS NOT EVEN CLOSE TO LARRY LEGEND BIRD IQ AND SHOOTING AND HIS HATES BIRD .PERIOD
i enjoyed the video but you need to watch a 76'ers vs Celtics game when Bobby Jones, Dr. J. Mo Cheeks Chocolate Thunder played. the game today is awful. i used to take the bus a train into Boston Garden as a jr, high student and see real basketball, Bill Russell, Clyd Fraiser Karrem, so many more
He ainât blaming anybody. Heâs telling Riddick or whoever he is to watch the tape of now and then and compare no calls and foul calls. Players flop and get the foul calls more today than in Birds era. No blame. Heâs responding to dudeâs stupid comments regarding Larry Bird. He opened his mouth and said some dumb things, and Cooper responded to his comments and argument concerning the league, fouls, Larry Bird, and 3 point shooting. Thatâs it. Heâs giving him a history lesson. The only blame is being put on Reddick for not knowing what the hell heâs talking about. Heâs either ignorant or trolling to get people talking about him. Bad press is better than none I guess.
If Curry played in the 80s & 90s he'd be MARK PRICE! Mark Price would avg more points and more assists than Curry;Price had more talent!
its not the refs fault dude...its the n.b.a fault they made the rule change and ruined the game.
Great job fem. J.J. Reddick is a total embarrassment. Larry is the most clutch player in NBA history! do I believe Bird & Curry are the best 3 pt. shooters of all time? YES. Do I think Larry cares? Not one bit.
Pat Riley once said: last shot to win a game Jordan last shot to live or die Bird!
Size matters:Bird was 6'9 to Curry's 6'3(Maybe)....Much harder to block a 6'9 shooter than a 6'3 shooter! Today's game=LOL NOT ALLOWED TO PLAY DEFENSE!!! In the 80s & 90s Curry couldn't take the punishment;He'd be out of the league in 5 or 6 yrs with injuries.
I agree. JJ Reddick was decent. Curry is FAR better than him. Heck, I don't even like LaBron but I know LaBron is an amazing shooter compared to Reddick and even compared to Curry. And yeah, Cooper would have locked him up and probably sent him crying on the bench. Larry Bird thinks Cooper was the best defender he had to go against.
Way to insult an entire generation
i'll say Curry is the better VOLUME 3 point shooter. he'll shoot MORE threes for you, but if the game is on the line and I need a 3, im going Larry Bird every single time
ðĪĄðĪĄðĪĄðĪĄðĪĄso instead of look at facts you go for media narrative
@@Newportnews98 actually STATS will tell you that Bird is a BETTER clutch performer.. we can EVEN FIND VIDEO that Steph DOESNT come through in the clutch.. while we CAN find video of BIRD coming in the clutch.. it doesnt matter what YOU THINK REMEMBER THAT.. REALITY is NOT what YOU MAKE IT...
NOBODY calls Curry clutch.. he LOST 5 3 POINT CONTESTS.. im the clown? seems like YOU are fitting that role really RE3ALLY well.. lol
@@Newportnews98 lol.. just lol..
@@Newportnews98 ive been watching basketball since the knicks had BOTH Mark Jackson AND Rod Strickland at the point. I watched the BEFORE they had Charles Oakley.. I SAW Magic, Kareem AND I SAW BIRD PLAY.. media narrative? lol just lol..
Today's society is SOFT,& that is reflected in our sports;Basketball is SOFT!!!
da-bird had game ð
I don't get this need to rank all time greats. Curry is great, Bird is great. It's impossible to rank players from different eras and make lists and why should you. It's a team sport. If I remember correctly when MJ was asked if he's the best of all time he responded they had the best team ever.
Bird didn't need to do DELIBERATE 3 pointers. Curry was not a good clutch 3 point shooter. 0-12 last season.
Don't forget Reggie Miller.. Boom Baby !
Blame the refs? Think that one all the way thru. When did refs start making the rules?
Bird wins all day
Chuck person would be a god in todays basketball. Basketball is a joke nowadays. I find it unwatchable.
Bird everyday. All day. Over anyone. Best all around player ever. If I'm making a team. My 1st pick is Larry fade away bucket Bird baby.
Every god level player is different. Each has their âabilitiesâ. Bird didnât shoot a ton of 3âs. He had to feed McHale and Parish in the post.
Larry Bird one Greatest 3 point shooters he The Greatest 3 pointer of all time he original 40 60 90 club 3 3 point contest winner in a role 86 87 88 plus against Washington hit a winner to die the game hit 3 in first over time off one foot which waved away due a time out was called. Then after time hit from same to win it for real.
The statement of the slightest bump of a player shooting a 3 has nothing to do with the refs. It has everything to do with the rules of today. Michael Cooper is trying to say the rules are different from today to back in the 80s. The rules allowed for a more physical game back in the 80s and have changed for player safety. Curry happens to play in a different era. Bird played in an era where Papa Curry hit Bird so hard that it almost knocked him out of the game.
reggie miller and larry bird can shoot the 3 ball as good as any player that's ever played the game but in there era the 3 ball was a last option back then...back then the 1st option was get the ball down low in the low post 1st for the high percentage shot and if players back then would jack up 3balls like today they would be on the bench. facts
Flopping is on the players...not the refs. It's cowardice. Not a single 80s player to even think about doing that.
NBA'S highest winning percentage belongs to Magic. 2nd. belongs to Bird.
You missedthe point, bro.
Larry's more Clutch. I mean, Jerry West and MJ are the only ones who could touch that. Maybe DJ. Curry is a better three point shooter. But he doesn't really do anything else. Is he a great player? yes, but Curry isn't in Larry's league. I mean Micheal Cooper was a decent 3 point shooter. But he was a BETTER defender. Larry had an all around game. Curry doesn't This is why many people defend Larry so hard. He wasn't at the top ten of everything, but he was excellent top 50 or higher at EVERYTHING. Nobody today does that. NO ONE. Heck, in the eighties, no one was doing that. He's not the GOAT, he's a UNICORN in a class by himself and always talked about WITH whomever you have as the GOAT.
I'm just a casual fan so my opinion may not matter. Bird really did seem to be a great team player. He tried to get everyone involved. But in clutch situations he wanted the ball because he wanted the team to win. He probably is a unicorn with amazing basketball IQ and endless confidence.
When someone asked why he played hurt and gave 100%, he supposedly said something like, "I owe it to the Celtics. I owe it to basketball. I owe it to fans who may have saved for months to pay for tickets and transportation to the games."
Michael Cooper.... would destroy JJ Reddick...they don't play defense today
... Ray Charles could hit a three in today's league
the statement that larry only shot about 37 1/2 % from 3 point line in his career is correct. actually his first 5 years he was under i think 30% or very low 30's? But when he got into the 3 point contest he really started practicing more so his last 7 years he average 41% and that was with 1 year at 33%, you can't prove it but i feel if he practiced more he might have increased it maybe another 1% and then maybe not we will never know. Oh in playoffs an champioship games it was (42.2%)
Yeah Jordan wasn't known as a 3-point shooter but he busted in your eye when every time he needed one so I would just shut up why he is the goat and Larry is a top-five we're LeBron's not even top 20 facts
Currys the greater 3 point shooter. Birds the better mid range shooter. Currys better free throw. Birds much better clutch. Theyre both great.
Bird was the man would avg 30 10 10 today
Larry Bird is better than Stephen Curry ..
Have you ever watch LeBron's games he stands out there like he's camping he just stands there not being part of the office cuz he sucks that bad
It's not moving the goal post. The real argument is what does "the best 3 point shooter" mean? The person that makes the most 3 pointers? The person with the highest percentage of successful 3 pointers? The person who makes the most clutch 3 pointers? The person who won the most 3 point contests? You had some good insight but I think you were quick to shoot down the arguments. Good reaction though made me think.
Larry!!!!!
When the reffs don't call it the players throw a fit like a 4 year old
HE NEEDS TO WATCH THE VIDEOS AND STORY HOW TOUGH THE 80'S ALSO MARK PRICE FROM CLEVELAND CAVALIER IS MORE ACCURATE SHOOTER THAN HIM AND STILL CAN BEAT HIM ANYTIME.
Curry would miss with game on the line
By no means that Curry is not great. It just that Bird is better than Curry.
The current NBA is Powder Puff, the guys fall around and scream like toddlers do different than the soccer players to, I can't even watch the game anymore but then again I grew up watching the Celtics and Lakers battle it out
Bird in his first season didn't even have a 3 point line. Even after it was initiated, it wasn't practiced that much until the 90s.....and definitely not for big men of the 80s...unless you're Larry. Comparing those of today that practice it as guards for 90% of their shooting vs then? It's silly.
its way more than the refs, it's the nba and money, the nba realizes that points equal money, the game has evolved and the nba has followed with it, that doesn't make it right or wrong, it is what it is
JJ Reddick just comes off as such a know it all jerk. Not a fan.
He's an idiot and even todays generation of players are starting to realize this and calling him out on his moronic statements. Pretty sure curry called him out on shit he said on bird.
You know I blame the players because they're the ones that are flopping and accentuating the foul they know the rules to just like double dribbling and traveling but that doesn't stop them from doing it how you get a travel and double dribble take like 10 steps and then slam and act like you're good plus nobody's guarding him I don't see that as being a great or any kind of good in the NBA that's why people are not watching it boring traveling flopping whiny babies self-entitled a-holes getting paid more than anybody on this planet to not play that's why there's no fans are just you young new people that Don't Know Jack about basketball
And of course Curry he's going to have a higher percentage because he shoots that many in Jordan and Larry only shot a couple so who's the greater shooter it isn't Steph Curry when it takes them 43 to make the half I don't consider that great I consider that camping love that was exaggeration but you know what I mean don't take it out of context like all the Lebron fans do
Is and is not a goal post when it's not moving it's just that's how sucking today's generation is because LeBron fans are moving at goalposts when it's not even necessary because he's not that guy my bad lowering the goalposts for LeBron
No blame it on the soft rules compared to the physical play of the 80s
wake up.
Although these comparisons are fun to think about, there is no real way to compare players in different eras except stats. All the players you talk about were the cream of players in their era. When it comes to physical abilities, all you need to do it look at ANY record set in any sport 50 yrs ago and almost every record was broken. Athletes are faster, stronger and jump higher than athletes 5 decades ago. Medicine has advanced greatly and career ending injuries 50yrs ago may not be so now. Until somebody invents a time machine so players and teams of different eras can play, all this talk of GOAT is just hot air once you disregard statistics.
Gonna stick with The Fucking Legend