I played and coached UCSB Football during 1987-1991. I bleed Gaucho Blue And Gold. This program was killed by allowing graduate students to vote on the initiative. Please do another segment discussing some behind the scenes topics not raised in this wonderful program. Thanks for bringing the light and insight to an incredible piece of football history. Dirty Wade Wallace #10
I played on the last 1991 Gaucho football team. A lot of what is said in the video is correct, however a few big points that were inaccurate - Title IX is what impacted ALL the college football programs at all levels (D1-D3), not just UCSB and many California universities killed off their football programs including many D1 (CSUF, CSULB, Univ of Pacific). Football is an expensive sport - lot of coaches, players, equipment, insurance, etc. It was the easiest sport to cut costs and then use those funds for multiple women's sports. Also, the vote to keep Gaucho football at UCSB would have passed, if graduate students were excluded. The undergrad students overwhelmingly supported the vote (around 65-70% voted YES) but the grad students were included and they could have cared less and tipped the scales that lost the initiative from passing.
My mother went to UCSB at around the same time (‘87-‘91). She’s shared the love for the university and town with me, and I’ve always found it fascinating how they don’t have a football program. With the recent college football game release, I decided to create a custom UCSB team and add some other Big West/Big Sky schools. Hope someday NCAA football can return to UCSB, even if probably unrealistic
That 1991 NCAA ruling also had a big impact on college football in the New York City area as well. D-1 hoop schools like St. John's and Iona were playing D-3 football before that ruling and they both folded their football programs before the '90s were over.
You could build a ridiculously good FCS/D2 conference out of all the programs that no longer exist in California. UCSB, Cal State Northridge, Cal State Fullerton, Chico State, Sonoma State, Azusa Pacific, Humboldt State, St. Mary's, Cal State East Bay, Cal Poly Pomona...
Great video as always. Would love to see a video about Fordham Football. One of America's oldest and most storied teams, which was shut down by the university only to later be (successfully) restarted by students.
You have some of the most fascinating content on TH-cam. Stuff like this is so cool and I'm not gonna find it anywhere else in easily digestible video form.
As a life long resident of the Goleta valley and alumni, thanks for the breakdown and wonderful breakdown of the timeline of events, when I tell people of the origins of “Hader” stadium and football in my youth I’m often met with doubtful smirks. Fabulous presentation and research ! Thanks.
It takes some credibility from the video when University of San Diego is confused repeatedly with UC San Diego. UCSD is much bigger than USD. UCSD does not play football. Otherwise the video is interesting. Please note, UC Santa Barbara would not play the University of Redlands which many seem to call the university of California Redlands. It is real unfortunate so many schools have dropped their teams. The list is endless especially when the SCIAC schools play football with much smaller student bodies.
I arrived at UCSB as a student athlete from New York in 1993. I can only laugh at how unavailable information was back then. Football stadium was a relic of a recent past that was not discussed, Big West conference membership constantly shifting. World Wide Web was brand new that year. All I knew about my own program, being from so far away, was limited to conversation or what was in the brochures. 😂 Thanks so much for this video and for your efforts in creating great content for this channel. 👍🏽
Video was recommended on my feed while playing a UCSB dynasty in EA CFB 25. My mom went there, very cool spot. Wish they still had a football program in real life
All we have here is Santa Barbara City College football. Closest D-1 program is Cal Poly SLO and for the NFL, the Cowboys host their training camp in Oxnard. Central California college and pro football is…yeah it sucks.
Yeah it sucks but what's your distance that you are talking like Slo and SB county only. Ventura has some football and so does Hancock and some other small colleges. But yeah the sports scene for football is very small which is why not many Football players move on from the Central Coast.
@@robbie5138 Yeah if you really really need to see a football game or join a team you have several JC programs to choose from. The kids get 2 years. CPSLO is the only 4 year program nearby. Except he missed Cal Lutheran in the SCIAC. Interestingly I've directed TV coverage of all of them, including UCSB decades ago.
A timeline where Gaucho football sticks around probably would’ve been beneficial because they’d be a decent pioneer league side with a strong rivalry with USD. Not to mention UCSB would still be able to support other sports heavily with scholarships and the funding would eventually arrive for women’s sports (which is where the football money went). Enrollment would be hurt, but that’s about it.
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One little error, UC San Diego only had a team for 1 year it was 1968 and went 0-7. The team you reference and show a picture of is USD or University of San Diego a private Catholic school that still has a football team.
You can blame the students. They wouldn’t pay 9 per quarter for 4 but rather 9 for 3. 27 extra dollars per student is nothing crazy. Also UCSB’s largest rival is Cal Poly and every year they have to compete in soccer instead. Today they would be able to play in the Big Sky and could easily bring it back.
You’re confusing UCSD with the University of San Diego. They are two different institutions. The University of San Diego (with the football program) is a small, private Catholic school while UCSD is a large state school with no official football team.
You should do a story on Cal State Fullerton‘s football team. In 1983, they won what was then called the Pacific Coast Athletic Association’s championship. For years, the team had to play home games at various venues. They even played home games at a Jerry rigged facility on campus that players and coaches themselves built! Finally, there was enough funding to build a new athletic complex, which included a football stadium, along with a hotel that would help pay for the complex.the stadium opened in 1992. Fullerton played one season at its new stadium, then dropped football because it couldn’t afford the program.
The Groucho’s were the charismatic, highly skilled, Spanish cowboys of the early 1800’s .the name was a fitting reflection of the Hispanic heritage of early Santa Barbara and the original Santa Barbara college. Fittingly an assortment of regional team names still proliferate, “Chargers” “conquistadors” “Dons”,”Royals”, “Aztecs”, “Lancers”, “Vacaros”, all early California warriors on horseback. Over the last 5 years the UCSB student bodies continually petition to change the name, out of political correctness. (Thankfully unsuccessfully to the raccoons)
Steely Dan made an album entitled Gaucho which included the song "Gaucho". The best part was being a UCSB senior in 1980 when the album came out.The arcane lyrics of Steely Dan's many songs (including "Who is the Gaucho, amigo") is part of the fun! Ole
University of Dayton was smart to drop from Division I to III in the late 70’s, and was a national contender for about 15 years. The Dayton rule was real, but Dayton was grandfathered in for another decade or so. Games were fun, and we had a few I-AA opponents in those years. I would like to see a football division with limited substitutions, so players play both offense and defense.
I played and coached UCSB Football during 1987-1991. I bleed Gaucho Blue And Gold. This program was killed by allowing graduate students to vote on the initiative. Please do another segment discussing some behind the scenes topics not raised in this wonderful program. Thanks for bringing the light and insight to an incredible piece of football history.
Dirty Wade Wallace #10
Like Wade. I played for UCSB (in 1986). Bleeding Gaucho Blue and Golf is a thing! Such pride and passion for what we did back then!
Gauchos4Life!!
I played on the last 1991 Gaucho football team. A lot of what is said in the video is correct, however a few big points that were inaccurate - Title IX is what impacted ALL the college football programs at all levels (D1-D3), not just UCSB and many California universities killed off their football programs including many D1 (CSUF, CSULB, Univ of Pacific). Football is an expensive sport - lot of coaches, players, equipment, insurance, etc. It was the easiest sport to cut costs and then use those funds for multiple women's sports. Also, the vote to keep Gaucho football at UCSB would have passed, if graduate students were excluded. The undergrad students overwhelmingly supported the vote (around 65-70% voted YES) but the grad students were included and they could have cared less and tipped the scales that lost the initiative from passing.
Exactly!...I'm looking at the '91 team photo on the wall now. I'm #32 sitting in front of you.
@@jackdunagan331 I would love to see that! Are you in the Gaucho football FB group?
My mother went to UCSB at around the same time (‘87-‘91). She’s shared the love for the university and town with me, and I’ve always found it fascinating how they don’t have a football program.
With the recent college football game release, I decided to create a custom UCSB team and add some other Big West/Big Sky schools. Hope someday NCAA football can return to UCSB, even if probably unrealistic
That 1991 NCAA ruling also had a big impact on college football in the New York City area as well. D-1 hoop schools like St. John's and Iona were playing D-3 football before that ruling and they both folded their football programs before the '90s were over.
Iona was D1 for hoops? Well, spank my arse and call me Nancy Kerrigan.
You could build a ridiculously good FCS/D2 conference out of all the programs that no longer exist in California. UCSB, Cal State Northridge, Cal State Fullerton, Chico State, Sonoma State, Azusa Pacific, Humboldt State, St. Mary's, Cal State East Bay, Cal Poly Pomona...
University of San Francisco too?
So weird that schools like Long Beach state, CSU Fullerton had football teams go defunct around this time
It was the beginning of Wokeism.at Universities
As a result of Title IX, which lead to the demise of MANY football programs across all Divisions.
Great video as always. Would love to see a video about Fordham Football. One of America's oldest and most storied teams, which was shut down by the university only to later be (successfully) restarted by students.
Unfortunate but the current FCS Division Pioneer Conference would likely have been a good fit
You have some of the most fascinating content on TH-cam. Stuff like this is so cool and I'm not gonna find it anywhere else in easily digestible video form.
As a life long resident of the Goleta valley and alumni, thanks for the breakdown and wonderful breakdown of the timeline of events, when I tell people of the origins of “Hader” stadium and football in my youth I’m often met with doubtful smirks.
Fabulous presentation and research ! Thanks.
UC San Diego is not the same as the university of San Diego. U of SD have the football team that Josh Johnson played on.
This is my bad. I constantly get the Tritons and Toreros mixed up.
The California university system is wildly confusing as a whole.
It takes some credibility from the video when University of San Diego is confused repeatedly with UC San Diego. UCSD is much bigger than USD. UCSD does not play football. Otherwise the video is interesting. Please note, UC Santa Barbara would not play the University of Redlands which many seem to call the university of California Redlands. It is real unfortunate so many schools have dropped their teams. The list is endless especially when the SCIAC schools play football with much smaller student bodies.
UCSD = University of California, San Diego
USD = University of San Diego, private Catholic
@@sasquatchhunter86 U$D is very fitting for a Catholic scam org.
I arrived at UCSB as a student athlete from New York in 1993. I can only laugh at how unavailable information was back then. Football stadium was a relic of a recent past that was not discussed, Big West conference membership constantly shifting. World Wide Web was brand new that year. All I knew about my own program, being from so far away, was limited to conversation or what was in the brochures. 😂 Thanks so much for this video and for your efforts in creating great content for this channel. 👍🏽
1:49 That is THE most California thing I’ve ever heard. Wow.
Video was recommended on my feed while playing a UCSB dynasty in EA CFB 25. My mom went there, very cool spot. Wish they still had a football program in real life
Great video. Thanks
All we have here is Santa Barbara City College football. Closest D-1 program is Cal Poly SLO and for the NFL, the Cowboys host their training camp in Oxnard. Central California college and pro football is…yeah it sucks.
Yeah it sucks but what's your distance that you are talking like Slo and SB county only. Ventura has some football and so does Hancock and some other small colleges. But yeah the sports scene for football is very small which is why not many Football players move on from the Central Coast.
@@robbie5138 Yeah if you really really need to see a football game or join a team you have several JC programs to choose from. The kids get 2 years. CPSLO is the only 4 year program nearby. Except he missed Cal Lutheran in the SCIAC. Interestingly I've directed TV coverage of all of them, including UCSB decades ago.
A timeline where Gaucho football sticks around probably would’ve been beneficial because they’d be a decent pioneer league side with a strong rivalry with USD.
Not to mention UCSB would still be able to support other sports heavily with scholarships and the funding would eventually arrive for women’s sports (which is where the football money went). Enrollment would be hurt, but that’s about it.
One little error, UC San Diego only had a team for 1 year it was 1968 and went 0-7. The team you reference and show a picture of is USD or University of San Diego a private Catholic school that still has a football team.
UCSD didn’t have D1 sports back then and they didn’t have football.
You can blame the students. They wouldn’t pay 9 per quarter for 4 but rather 9 for 3. 27 extra dollars per student is nothing crazy. Also UCSB’s largest rival is Cal Poly and every year they have to compete in soccer instead. Today they would be able to play in the Big Sky and could easily bring it back.
You’re confusing UCSD with the University of San Diego. They are two different institutions. The University of San Diego (with the football program) is a small, private Catholic school while UCSD is a large state school with no official football team.
You should do a story on Cal State Fullerton‘s football team. In 1983, they won what was then called the Pacific Coast Athletic Association’s championship. For years, the team had to play home games at various venues. They even played home games at a Jerry rigged facility on campus that players and coaches themselves built! Finally, there was enough funding to build a new athletic complex, which included a football stadium, along with a hotel that would help pay for the complex.the stadium opened in 1992. Fullerton played one season at its new stadium, then dropped football because it couldn’t afford the program.
"Jerry" rigged?! I'm 1/69 German and highly offended. I'm calling Rev. Al Sharpton and his daughter to sic you.
UC San Diego had only one season of football, in 1968. In the 90’s UCSD was still D3. They finally moved to D1 in 2020! They are now a full D1 school!
The play 8:13 was NUTS btw
who are these gauchos, amigo?
The Groucho’s were the charismatic, highly skilled, Spanish cowboys of the early 1800’s .the name was a fitting reflection of the Hispanic heritage of early Santa Barbara and the original Santa Barbara college. Fittingly an assortment of regional team names still proliferate, “Chargers” “conquistadors” “Dons”,”Royals”, “Aztecs”, “Lancers”, “Vacaros”, all early California warriors on horseback.
Over the last 5 years the UCSB student bodies continually petition to change the name, out of political correctness. (Thankfully unsuccessfully to the raccoons)
Steely Dan made an album entitled Gaucho which included the song "Gaucho". The best part was being a UCSB senior in 1980 when the album came out.The arcane lyrics of Steely Dan's many songs (including "Who is the Gaucho, amigo") is part of the fun! Ole
UCSD and USD are not the same school.
Schools could be D1 in name only for football! They instead just dropped football! Patriot League is D1, but they are non-scholarship!
Thought they were banana slugs
That is UC Santa Cruz.
Title IX.. So empowering
Amazingly, UCSB, girls basketball, volleyball, waterpolo, field hockey, and soccer all immediately flourished in the early 90’s
University of Dayton was smart to drop from Division I to III in the late 70’s, and was a national contender for about 15 years. The Dayton rule was real, but Dayton was grandfathered in for another decade or so. Games were fun, and we had a few I-AA opponents in those years.
I would like to see a football division with limited substitutions, so players play both offense and defense.
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