One thing that always gets me: many people think the vintage rolex pieces that I wear are higher end than the modern rolex pieces. Blows my mind. They have a completely different shine, different presence on wrist... more delicate but also more of a delicacy? Great video, David.
An analogy is that it's look going from iPhone 14 to 15, incremental improvements. I tried on a modern sub and a two line 14060m, no date complications for a simple dial aesthetic, and the newer sub definitely was heavier, and because of this felt more solid, possibly premium. I walked out with the 20 year old model, because it just looked nicer to my eye. It keeps good time, and occasionally I mix it up with a leather strap, that really makes it look vintage, and is easy to do as the lug pins are visible and its 20mm. So it meets my needs. Vintage looking with a relatively modern movement. By the same token, I recently tried on the latest gmtII root beer. I preferred this aesthetic to the old one. Hopefully arrives soon. We should just remember how lucky we are to have these first world problems.😂 Enjoyed your discussion.
Great to see the REAL David back! I chanced upon your channel many years back for such content as i'm a passionate 5 digit Rolex collector. Along the way the channel deviated from the why it started. Very glad to see that you're back to do content like this, where you're most passionate about. Thank you for this great and wonderful video! Totally agree with you on the comparisons you've made in this video :)
David, thank you so much for answering my question, and going into the detail that you did. I appreciate you sharing your knowledge to enlighten me (and the other fans) as to how "different" the five digit references are to the six digit references, yet are essentially when it comes to accuracy & reliability. I now feel more comfortable in buying Rolex vintage from the information in this video.
Great video. I agree with you that the easy adjustment is useful on the new models. l have noticed that the lighter older ones don't bother me so much when my wrist swells in warmer conditions
Steel Reef do easy link extensions for 5-digit Rolex. They are a bit expensive but work. I have a mix of 5-digit and 6-digit. Depends on the watch, e.g. prefer 5-digit sub but then prefer the 6-digit 36mm Explorer.
I have both and they wear completely differently. The new one feels much more robust and draws attention. The older one is much more classy and is much more versatile, it's lighter and slips under a cuff easily and almost feels like your not wearing it. I prefer my 5 digit but the 6 is lovely.
personally l prefer the ceramic models over the pre ceramic, if your buying a ceramic Rolex it feels like your buying a watch that cost over £10k and not like a Seiko.
Nice video, however i disagree. All the minor changes you mentioned are true, but it makes the watch more robust, accurate and reliable which is the Rolex philosophy. The new references are much more solid overall. The flimsy bracelet and cheap clasp are nice for the era but can't even compare with the new references. I have all three references just saying...
Shame that you failed to mention rarity, and the effect that will have on future values (for when your watch is passed to your kids with your estate). The 5 digit references were not as mass produced as the 6 digit versions which are made in the millions. That root beer, which I don't personally like, is a very hard to find watch. Paul Thorpe's "find me another" test applies.... The 6 digit GMT can be found in almost every used rolex shop and is as common as a casio. It's a nice robust watch but you can't call it rare. Rarity matters to future value - thus the 16710 model will 20 years from now be considerably more valuable than the current generation. This is true of of most luxury goods from old Daytonas to old Porsche 911's.
Fair point, however the 16710 was produced from 1989 to 2007, granted in different variations. The 16713 yellow gold and steel until 2006. The long production cycle will undoubtably mean that rarity is less a feature of these particular models.
@@Father_Time They weren't produced in anything like the numbers they are today. Its not that they produced 1m watches in 1989 and 1m watches today. You can see this from Rolex profits over time, and also from the difficulty locating 5 digit GMTs. Looking on Chrono24 and selecting a random (non recession) year such as 1995 there are 25 GMTs for sale worldwide. Moving to ceramic GMTs when I look at 2018 there are 241 watches for sale. So 10x more 6 digit than 5 digit.
One thing that always gets me: many people think the vintage rolex pieces that I wear are higher end than the modern rolex pieces. Blows my mind. They have a completely different shine, different presence on wrist... more delicate but also more of a delicacy? Great video, David.
An analogy is that it's look going from iPhone 14 to 15, incremental improvements. I tried on a modern sub and a two line 14060m, no date complications for a simple dial aesthetic, and the newer sub definitely was heavier, and because of this felt more solid, possibly premium. I walked out with the 20 year old model, because it just looked nicer to my eye. It keeps good time, and occasionally I mix it up with a leather strap, that really makes it look vintage, and is easy to do as the lug pins are visible and its 20mm. So it meets my needs. Vintage looking with a relatively modern movement. By the same token, I recently tried on the latest gmtII root beer. I preferred this aesthetic to the old one. Hopefully arrives soon. We should just remember how lucky we are to have these first world problems.😂 Enjoyed your discussion.
Great to see the REAL David back! I chanced upon your channel many years back for such content as i'm a passionate 5 digit Rolex collector. Along the way the channel deviated from the why it started. Very glad to see that you're back to do content like this, where you're most passionate about. Thank you for this great and wonderful video! Totally agree with you on the comparisons you've made in this video :)
The 6 digits Rolex are very robust but that is really the only advantage. 5 digits are classic, elegant, thin and much less visible.
What a great video. Love the detailed explanation. And i really love the 'older' GMT watches, so much style and class.
David, thank you so much for answering my question, and going into the detail that you did. I appreciate you sharing your knowledge to enlighten me (and the other fans) as to how "different" the five digit references are to the six digit references, yet are essentially when it comes to accuracy & reliability. I now feel more comfortable in buying Rolex vintage from the information in this video.
My pleasure, glad you found it useful.
Great video. I agree with you that the easy adjustment is useful on the new models. l have noticed that the lighter older ones don't bother me so much when my wrist swells in warmer conditions
Very informative and thought provoking video, definitely changed my point of view on buying older watches. Thank you David.
Steel Reef do easy link extensions for 5-digit Rolex. They are a bit expensive but work. I have a mix of 5-digit and 6-digit. Depends on the watch, e.g. prefer 5-digit sub but then prefer the 6-digit 36mm Explorer.
Good video and history of the two watchs, I like the older one.
Happy to hand over my 10K to David, got a great deal and a Rolex thar was even better than described.
I have both and they wear completely differently. The new one feels much more robust and draws attention. The older one is much more classy and is much more versatile, it's lighter and slips under a cuff easily and almost feels like your not wearing it. I prefer my 5 digit but the 6 is lovely.
Great video. You have me reconsidering my future purchases!
I wonder if the early watch is a bit more handmade than the later one. I prefer the vintage piece. Nice video, thank you.
This video is brilliant my friend!!
Thank you 🙏
Comparing a current versus old Root beer would have been interesting - I’m finding myself drawn more to the older version…
That would have been great but unfortunately I don’t have one at the moment.
@@Mr.Khalil08 Shame, great video nonetheless
personally l prefer the ceramic models over the pre ceramic, if your buying a ceramic Rolex it feels like your buying a watch that cost over £10k and not like a Seiko.
To me the older gen of 6 digit references are old caliber technology in super cases. absolutely not worth price offset.
Nice video, however i disagree. All the minor changes you mentioned are true, but it makes the watch more robust, accurate and reliable which is the Rolex philosophy. The new references are much more solid overall. The flimsy bracelet and cheap clasp are nice for the era but can't even compare with the new references. I have all three references just saying...
Thanks 🙏 valid points too. I guess preference is a decider aswell.
Hello Mr. kahalil
sounds very much like a vintage watch seller XDD
Shame that you failed to mention rarity, and the effect that will have on future values (for when your watch is passed to your kids with your estate). The 5 digit references were not as mass produced as the 6 digit versions which are made in the millions. That root beer, which I don't personally like, is a very hard to find watch. Paul Thorpe's "find me another" test applies.... The 6 digit GMT can be found in almost every used rolex shop and is as common as a casio. It's a nice robust watch but you can't call it rare. Rarity matters to future value - thus the 16710 model will 20 years from now be considerably more valuable than the current generation. This is true of of most luxury goods from old Daytonas to old Porsche 911's.
Fair point, however the 16710 was produced from 1989 to 2007, granted in different variations. The 16713 yellow gold and steel until 2006. The long production cycle will undoubtably mean that rarity is less a feature of these particular models.
@@Father_Time They weren't produced in anything like the numbers they are today. Its not that they produced 1m watches in 1989 and 1m watches today. You can see this from Rolex profits over time, and also from the difficulty locating 5 digit GMTs. Looking on Chrono24 and selecting a random (non recession) year such as 1995 there are 25 GMTs for sale worldwide. Moving to ceramic GMTs when I look at 2018 there are 241 watches for sale. So 10x more 6 digit than 5 digit.
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9:17 he has that watch still because the rootbeer has a fat scratch on the crystal lol
I hope you’re still not using a pager or old gsm phone - you know they are watching you / only a matter of time before it’s 💥