@@mahdi2268 it's from 'solo leveling.' Honestly a pretty trash manhwa with a mediocre story and some anti-japan propaganda because the creator really hated Japan for some reason.
Did yall know, when you use ur ult near rocks, items etc, her ult gets cancelled. So if there is a box of crates in a Fatui camp and u try to defeat those Fatui u can’t even do that as her ult will get cancelled 😭
I think the reason as to why she feels so underwhelming is because even though her strong point is to be a defensive unit she fails to even do that because her resistance to interruption is not very good. For example in a burn melt ganyu team with Dayha as a 4th slot, what she provides when it comes to defense, in my opinion isnt enough to justify other things she brings in that team like instructor 4 peice, pyro reresonance etc. At that point you might as well go for Zhongli even if he might mess up reactions because using deyha will make you get hit which is a massive dps loss for ganyu.
The difference is you can get Deyha a lot easier than Zhongli since she will be on standard so she is a more f2p friendly option and she applies pyro in that scenario + pyro resonance
@@ladyliz0862 I agree on the point of Dehya being POTENTIALLY easier to obtain even though it doesn't have to be the case for everyone - I've been playing since day 1 and I don't have Qiqi or Mona so... yeah, that's that. And how is she more F2P friendly than Zhongli exactly? Zhongli can go with 0 ER and just full HP build with a 3* weapon and defend you against lvl 20 or lvl 90 enemies with his shield having 100% uptime
It’s killing me so badly that Moga is Kazuha bursting in the rotation and not letting dehya actually vape, you would usually do a tap E instead and also use Mona’s E after her burst
Kokomi doesn't prevent damage though, she just heals it, which is useless if a Kenki one shots you - and considering he has Hu Tao on the team, who's usually on low health, having Dehya take any hits is preferable.
@@peterbabicki8252 I get that, it's just that you can't really say in the situation that Dehya was the sole reason everyone alive when there was Kokomi to give Moga heals. If he wanted to properly showcase Dehya Moga probably should've had her be the only defensive unit.
@@dr.stabbinfaith8090 Yeah, Kokomi did most of the work, but I don't think Dehya was made to replace a healer, or even a shielder. She seems to be a middle ground, for situations where you have healing, but also require some damage mitigation for weaker characters against strong attacks.
@@peterbabicki8252 you either shield or heal, being in between that is the worse of both worlds. XQ can do what she does with way more utility, Diona can do what she does without your character taking any damage and has a heal for backup, Zhongli has the strongest shield and does more than she does. Why would I pick Dehya who can only take some damage, has a fcked up burst thats easily cancelled, and has lower damage output over some of the more easily obtainable 4 stars and some other 5 stars that does what she does but better? Literally the only reason would be cause she looks cool because her trying to be something between a healer or shielder doesnt work for me personally. All power to those who go for the waifu over the gameplay though,
Hey Moga, I just wanted to point out in your showcase comparing c0 and c1 damage there is a pretty huge oversight that might cause some people to think c1 solves Dehya's damage issues. In the showcase you have Dehya's signature weapon equipped, at 6:48 during the c0 test you proc'd a portion of the weapons passive by hitting an enemy with a skill way before you began your rotation and never recast before bursting which meant you lost out on 20% bonus atk%, the other 20% atk was triggered when kazuha took a hit from Masanori. While in the c1 showcase at 8:19 you begin with her skill and immediately continued the rotation where you get hit by Masanori while casting Kazuha burst allowing Dehya to gain the full 40% atk buff from Beacon making her burst deal 42k per hit. I feel like this might persuade some players to use more wishes or even spend to get her c1 or sig weapon and that doesnt sit right with me.
Yeah a damage showcase is a lot better if you use 4 star weapons because everyone knows weapon banner is a scam and many don't have the funds to get her weapon when shes so mid. For waifu players getting only her is more than enough for many people.
Would really love to see her "defensive capabilities" In a team without the best healer in team or any healer. Also the fact that hu tao team would be okay/way better without her💀
@@applyinggaming9529 that's what should have been the team. It's clear that the fear of dying was too high when they're repeatedly coping that dehya is a good defensive unit lmao
@@applyinggaming9529 Yeah is ok, since XQ covers the fact that you only have infinite reduction to interruption for 9 sec. The normal E interruption of Dehya + XQ swords is enough to be able to tank most hits without getting push (that's why in the official live stream used XQ swords in her interruption showcase LMAO)
I've been using her as my last slot in a Hu Tao double hydro team and she works great since that team has really high HP and her damage mitigation is more than enough to aid in survivability. Only ult when your Hu Tao E runs out tho and you get that crit bonus for the duration!
@@bang-naim but wouldnt it just be better to use a shielder like thoma and zhongli instead? Cus the shield follows your active character and completely negates/absorb damage with 100% uptime. With dehya you still get damaged, restricted in a certain area, and it has a bad uptime
@@jayvaldez9984 thing is I dont have Zhonlgli and as for Thoma, he tends to be worse offensively and defensively for that team, rather use him with Yoimiya
@@jayvaldez9984 thoma might steal vapes, that's why tankfei is pref... was prefer.. tankfei is better than thoma in hutao team. lol ^^' zhongli could crystallize and so remove the application and ruin some vapes aswell. zhongli+albedo was changed to double hydro when yelan came out as bis. i don't really know if dehya is an upgrade from tankfei, i didn't check with hutao mains since i don't really care, i don't use her :'3 all of this info was just casually read here and there when i was looking for something else :P
moga turning those dendro chunks into pyro broke my soul. they are still quite hard to get considering there are only 2 overworld bosses dropping those, and having 2 dendro characters next patch is gonna be annoying to raise😹😟
@@lechugster8648 ? Are chunks a problem? You farm a boss for a few days. You can also turn any chunk into any element with a little shop dust it's not a big deal
@@lechugster8648 it isn't... you should have a lot of the other dust you buy with stardust saved away for times like this, it's very cheap I recommend stocking some of it
Moga: "Wow that floor went pretty smoothly im pretty sure nobody get even close to diyng" Kokomi: "Yeah i think i did a good job there right?" Moga talks about dehya being more of a def support "like zhongli" instead of a dps Kokomi: "..."
I don't understand defending Dehya by saying she is a support with defensive capabilities when you are showcasing her as a DPS first, and then doing an abyss run with Kokomi. I don't think such a test functions when you want to see if Dehya's fits as a Zhongli replacement, since normally people are not going to play Zhongli and Kokomi on the same team. At least you did not use Xingqiu, because then you would made Dehya's completely redundant, since he already offers a better resistance to interruption than her, while also giving some healing and all the other things that make Xingqiu so broken. Of course you are free to play as you wish, and make videos as you like, I just don't get how is this a showcase of Dehya's capabilities. Maybe it's just me being too cynical, or simply it's a case in which I just don't get the point of the video. In any case I appreciate your work.
@@ShadowsBBG the community and how loud they can be when you're just tryna find a guide for the new char kinda rlly tries to ruin that for some tho ngl
@@Relevart9169 and u literally normally use the 3 best supports in the game FOR A DANG SHOWCASE so why ppl keep feeling the need to call this out is beyond me
nice venti showcase :D i really liked this video, thanks for the Dehya showcase! she has replaced zhongli on my team, which, i thought was impossible but has made playing the overworld game pretty fun. I recommend an overload burgeon team with Dehya, Nahida, Barbara and Shinobu....lots of numbers. Unfortunately...I'm now forever tempted to get cons for a standard banner character, which, tends to be painful and I already main Kaeya lol.
@@Laguccia Yeah, i love how he calls it “Overload Burgeon”, literally any character would work in a hyperbloom team, and anyone besides Dehya works better. Even Eula would be better for more NA damage
Looking at the comment section in this video, people are REALLY hating on Dehya's kit just because "ShE's NoT DoInG hU tAo DaMaGe" or something like that. There are even people that commented like they haven't watched the entire video and just wants to join the hate bandwagon. Moga was actually ENJOYING Dehya throughout the video. Meanwhile, some comments are convinced that he's "high on copium" or something 🙄. I'm not saying you can't criticize Dehya's kit or anything, but a character not doing big damage doesn't equal bad kit, and it doesn't justify attempting to ruin someone else's enjoyment of that character. Also, unpopular opinion: I see Dehya as more of a defender than a fighter, so her kit makes sense to me.
I also think Dehya is more of a defender too. To me, she seems like the textbook definition of the “jack of all trades, master of none” saying. I’d argue that she’s not all that bad, but where she supposedly “shines” other characters are way better to use than her.
The copuim level in this video is through the roof 💀 Dude needed to review her in a vacuum with no comparisons to other characters THAT IS C1 AND A 5 STAR WEAPON like just say she is really bad are you really that scared of being canceled 💀
I believe anyone would be, and saying that he won't do a Raised and God Mode vid for that character because of it would likely cause the angry mob to start yelling
I'm aiming for C1 also. Hopefully I win my 50/50. Interesting that you thought 12-2 was the hardest. I actually think that was the easiest for me, 12-1 was needlessly hard but only because I was unaware of the electro infusion and refused to restart and pick a new team
The Abyss part was just a Hutao showcase he didn't even use hydro for Dehyas burst to do more than 14k a hit and says its bad, allthough before that he did arround 40k to massanori with some buffs active
I've been waiting for Dehya since Sumeru launched. I was bummed about how 'lackluster' her kit is. Despite that, I rolled for C6. My Dehya isn't fully built up yet since I am very behind on materials. She is currently lv80/80 waiting for the final uncap. Her talents are lv6. She has ZERO energy problems at C6. You burst, do a team rotation and she is ready to burst again. Good. Her damage is a little low right now because I don't use the Bennet or Mona or Kazuha combos, and her artifacts are currently trash. But even still, she is doing way better than I was expecting. Can't wait to properly have her finished.
well, let's be fair: I love yoi (mine's double crowned) but she's not that strong, and pretty much nothing changed that fact. theory crafters have had the same opinion about her pretty much from the start: decent single target pyro dps, inferior to hu tao, works. with dehya there really isn't much that can make her better - her kit is just bad. maybe a broken hydro support from fontaine? and even then that has a chance of backfiring and making hu tao/yoi/xiangling even stronger, so yeah.... I don't see our girl dehya becoming good all of a sudden. for now even diluc is better than she is.
the difference here is: Yoimiya still works the same as hu tao, only single target focused (hence they called her worse hu tao). *yoimiya owner here triple crowned* Dehya on the other hand doesn't have a good, or worse, at least a working gimmick that could've made her functional.
No, she wont. People that compare Dehya with Kazuha, Kokomi or Yoimiya aren't aware of how weak and bad Dehya is. None of those examples were weak, all fuction perfectly and got stronger with sets or units but they weren't WEAK at all. Dehya is weak already, her base dmg and defensive utility is bad, she lacks the uptime in her defensive buffs to make her decent and she lacks the multipliers to be a decent dps. That's why the only good comparasion is 1.1 Zhognli, he was so weak and people was so mad about it that they buffed him 2 patches later, pre buff Zhongli was weaker shielder than Diona and didn't give any buffs to dmg.
To Vaporize Dehya Burst: 1) Use Benny burst, 2) Use Kazuha skill, swap off 3) drop Mona skill, burst, swap 4) Dehya burst, remember to spam skill for it to come out faster
I strongly disagree, unless you enjoy the gameplay she will be tilting to use even in overworld. Without very very good artifacts and weapons she will struggle in all content in the game. Is I think the only 5* with Alloy that I won't recommend to a new player or casual player without build characters.
lmao I cant stop laughing at how much moga emphasizes she's a defensive unit just for his venti to die while she's on the team. really goes to show how badly her kit was designed and executed
What's the point of building a national team... If you didn't use that team in the Abyss.. you literally just threw Yelan at her and expected damage.. and what's the point of bringing hu tao... If you wanted a "DPS" Dehya on floor 12.. like why even c1 her if that's the case..
So a pattern that I've noticed in Genshin is that the kit and talents are reflective of the character's personality and their story. Clear lines can be drawn between character traits and skills, and the devs tend to stick to this principle even at the expense of the meta (Xinyan doing physical damage as a pyro unit is in line with her theme of subverting expectations for instance). Dehya is a mercenary, who focuses on bodyguard work and is the kind of person who will secretly sell her claymore to help a cause she believes in. Thus her kit is designed around her providing added support and rounding out a party as a support-dps/damage reducer/reaction enabler. As a mercenary, she's a hired sword; and as a hired sword, she doesn't lead the charge, she just kinda helps where she can. Seriously, once your start looking at the talents as extensions of the personal story/lore, every single kit starts making so much more sense. Dehya adds survivability by being a good bodyguard and putting her life on the line hence her HP scaling.anyone who scales off HP in any capacity has a track record of putting their health/safety second btw... She increases resistance to interruption which is nice for the squishies but is especially great for the chibis and her trailer showed us she loves kids. Yaoyao driving a burgeon team with Dehya is actually a lot of fun. Finally, she has decent pyro application because she's fiery, duh. Her kit also makes more sense once you realize the pyro damage her skill provides is just meant to be auxiliary. Again she's not gonna be the main star because she's aiming to get the "most assists". Mechanically, she was given a version of Albedo's skill and Fischl's Burst so that she could support from behind the scenes and reposition herself while applying pyro to everything. Basically, she helps when you're not looking and you can use her to punch your way out of a tough spot if you find yourself cornered... kind of like a bodyguard, say whaaaaaatttt!? "Oh, her burst gets canceled if you jump" So? You can cancel Fischl's burst too. That only increases your options for gameplay. And all of this before you start fiddling with artifact sets and the various party buffs you can have her trigger. She's not bad so much as she doesn't have an obvious role to fill, and the reason for that is because as a mercenary her role is always changing. Feature, not a bug. This means you can build her in a lot of different ways and tailor the kind of support you want her to be. To cap it all off she literally asks you what her job is when she joins the party lol.
Ok, I get your point and I really am glad you found this out, it's truly beautiful But There are parts of Dehya's kit that are bad design, with no lore implication or anything For example, as you mentioned, her burst being cancelled when you jump You said it provides more options, but it absolutely does not. It just taxes any mobile player for mistapping, or any pc player for pressing the space bar one too many times once they got frozen It also adds nothing useful, and swapping out can also cancel her burst if you'd wanna do that for...some reason You also mentioned Fischl's burst and I honestly wish the two were simmilar, but there are two key differences that make Dehya's burst suck and fischl's not suck 1. Dehya's burst only recasts her skill if it was already active If fischl's oz ran out, you can burst and quickly swap out, and there he is again! If Dehya's skill ran out you have to wait. For the entire cooldown. 2. Dehya's burst *doesn't reset her skill's duration* If you read her burst description carefully, her burst recasts her skill with whatever duration it already had, so using it to refresh her skill simply. Doesn't. Work. Besides that, there's the fact that her burst doesn't trigger Xingqiu's, Yelan's, Beidou's, or Thoma's bursts, nor does it gain any advantage from normal attack buffs. This isn't atrocious necessairly, but it greatly removes a lot of her options and makes playing her a lot less fun None of the above have any lore implications, they are simply bad design I wish there was any artifact set or something that could help Dehya, but all artifacts can do is up her dmg or maybe slightly lessen her issues. The only thing that can make Dehya actually good is a total rework of her burst from hoyoverse, who have made continuous conscious choices that led to her being bad Sorry
The difference is Fischl burst is only one 20k hit while jump canceling Dehya's burst is 20-90% of your total dps. Not to mention mobile players which makes up the majority of the community always mistakenly press the jump button due to horrible design. Xingqiu who is a self proclaimed defender of justice has better defense than her. One of Morax's titles is a warrior god and yet his kit is all about shielding. Layla is a random ass student who somehow got an visison and still does her defensive utilities better than her. Do I even have to mention Diona who is an bartender and she heals and shields. What the hell does that has to do with anything in her story besides hating alcohol. These characters all have better Defensive capabilities than the character in lore that is more qualified than any of them. Let's not even talk about her dps. How the heck does a random ass Funeral director does more damage than one of the strongest mercs in Teyvat and the man who single handedly forced the harginbers to try to kill him themselves because of how much of a mess he made in snezhnaya. I understand your argument but it is pure copium. Sorry
You know you're actually supposed to use your character's skills to get energy and using Mona's skill and NOT Kazuha's burst is Integral to getting Dehya to Vape and do good damage. Her HP *was* actually 40k. It was 46k when you put her in a team due to weapon. She went to 50k after you C1'd her. Kokomi on a Hu Tao team...
I want Dehya but I can't muster the strength to summon her. If I summon for her and I lose my 50/50 trying to get a 50/50 character, it will destroy my soul.
@@escapetherace1943 I already have Ayaka and Shenhe so I'm not pulling for them. I will be pulling for Ayaka's weapon though since I didn't get it the first time. I don't really have any interest in Eula either. I think I'll just pass on Dehya for now and keep saving.
@@KamronA I want my first cryo character and it's gonna probably be Eula. Shame she doesn't do freeze comps but I'm willing to live with it because I like her the most out of the 3.
Instead of always using masanori for showcases, you should think about doing the vermillion and echoes Doman. 3 decently tanky enemies that if positioned right stay close together
She's just feel like all 4 star sumeru, really-really constellation dependant, C2 is bare minimum for her to feel like how C0 5 star look like. That's why this feel sucks when slowly 5 star became constellation dependant
These comments regurgitating the same shit everyone else is saying if it's not about her jump cancelling her burst, it's a joke abut her rarity, her damage or her kit like..can we think of something else.
MiHoYo needs to stop it with the constellation bait. Most of us can't pull copies of a 5 star and gimping their kit/dmg to make you shell out 200 dollars for a constellation is beyond insane. They already make bookoo tier $$ and still give us the same running animations for each character model, like Nahida.... Hoyo please.....
dehya is such a cool character but her c1 SHOUYLD have just been part of her normal kit. shes weak otherwise. also she should have a lower energy cost considering it lasts four seconds. also she would be much better if her uptime for skill was better considering the interuption res is only amazing for nine seconds. im excited to loose fifty fifty to her tho !!
27k is good but that is until you look at other pyro 5 stars like yoimaiya or hutao or diluc compared to their dmg 27k is not good but if you like her then you go ig and even 40k for c1 or for c0 is not that strong it is good but not strong like other characters at c0 or c1
If they made her c1 a part of her kit, and decreased her burst cost as well as it’s cooldown, she honestly could’ve been a strong burst dps
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@@mahdi2268 it's from 'solo leveling.'
Honestly a pretty trash manhwa with a mediocre story and some anti-japan propaganda because the creator really hated Japan for some reason.
@@escapetherace1943 who asked
@@akramahmed201 ur mom, tvoja keva, deine mutter
@@escapetherace1943 this guy sounds salty about korea
Did yall know, when you use ur ult near rocks, items etc, her ult gets cancelled. So if there is a box of crates in a Fatui camp and u try to defeat those Fatui u can’t even do that as her ult will get cancelled 😭
Wait wha- every day i find something which makes me feel relieved that i got tighnari at 6 and not dehya🙂
And her ult doesnt target azhdaha tail when he is underground
@@goodfriend4059 i feel like people are having more fun finding every little bug with her kit than actually using the character cause wth is that 😭
Her E also cant proc burgeon if the enemy is too tall cause her small AOE cant hit the ground
@@goodfriend4059 bruh.... Y'all just giving more and more bad facts about dehya.... And I'm stunned kol
5:42 lvl 12 circlet, let's go
I think the reason as to why she feels so underwhelming is because even though her strong point is to be a defensive unit she fails to even do that because her resistance to interruption is not very good. For example in a burn melt ganyu team with Dayha as a 4th slot, what she provides when it comes to defense, in my opinion isnt enough to justify other things she brings in that team like instructor 4 peice, pyro reresonance etc. At that point you might as well go for Zhongli even if he might mess up reactions because using deyha will make you get hit which is a massive dps loss for ganyu.
The difference is you can get Deyha a lot easier than Zhongli since she will be on standard so she is a more f2p friendly option and she applies pyro in that scenario + pyro resonance
Her skill
1- doesnt generate enough energy
2- doesnt do any dmg
3- bad pyro application
4- bad uptime
5- isnt really good defensive option
@@ladyliz0862 just because a character is on standard banner doesnt mean they are f2p friendly . Dehya at C0 with 4 star weapons doesnt even function
@@ladyliz0862 I do not own a jean or tighnari. Standard is unreliable.
@@ladyliz0862 I agree on the point of Dehya being POTENTIALLY easier to obtain even though it doesn't have to be the case for everyone - I've been playing since day 1 and I don't have Qiqi or Mona so... yeah, that's that.
And how is she more F2P friendly than Zhongli exactly? Zhongli can go with 0 ER and just full HP build with a 3* weapon and defend you against lvl 20 or lvl 90 enemies with his shield having 100% uptime
It’s killing me so badly that Moga is Kazuha bursting in the rotation and not letting dehya actually vape, you would usually do a tap E instead and also use Mona’s E after her burst
He has C2 Kazuha I think so that's probably why
@@StanTwiceZ this 250em does nothing if you don't vape, so there is no reason to do it even with c2
right it bothers me so bad, just tap kazuha's E, its enough to swirl, no need for Q
Yeah he’s not really known for his vast game knowledge so yeah
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"They survived pretty well with Dehya" Kokomi in the team💀
They both had a roll in it. Kokomi provided healing, and dehya provided resistance and reduced dmg
Kokomi doesn't prevent damage though, she just heals it, which is useless if a Kenki one shots you - and considering he has Hu Tao on the team, who's usually on low health, having Dehya take any hits is preferable.
@@peterbabicki8252 I get that, it's just that you can't really say in the situation that Dehya was the sole reason everyone alive when there was Kokomi to give Moga heals. If he wanted to properly showcase Dehya Moga probably should've had her be the only defensive unit.
@@dr.stabbinfaith8090 Yeah, Kokomi did most of the work, but I don't think Dehya was made to replace a healer, or even a shielder. She seems to be a middle ground, for situations where you have healing, but also require some damage mitigation for weaker characters against strong attacks.
@@peterbabicki8252 you either shield or heal, being in between that is the worse of both worlds. XQ can do what she does with way more utility, Diona can do what she does without your character taking any damage and has a heal for backup, Zhongli has the strongest shield and does more than she does.
Why would I pick Dehya who can only take some damage, has a fcked up burst thats easily cancelled, and has lower damage output over some of the more easily obtainable 4 stars and some other 5 stars that does what she does but better?
Literally the only reason would be cause she looks cool because her trying to be something between a healer or shielder doesnt work for me personally. All power to those who go for the waifu over the gameplay though,
Hey Moga, I just wanted to point out in your showcase comparing c0 and c1 damage there is a pretty huge oversight that might cause some people to think c1 solves Dehya's damage issues. In the showcase you have Dehya's signature weapon equipped, at 6:48 during the c0 test you proc'd a portion of the weapons passive by hitting an enemy with a skill way before you began your rotation and never recast before bursting which meant you lost out on 20% bonus atk%, the other 20% atk was triggered when kazuha took a hit from Masanori. While in the c1 showcase at 8:19 you begin with her skill and immediately continued the rotation where you get hit by Masanori while casting Kazuha burst allowing Dehya to gain the full 40% atk buff from Beacon making her burst deal 42k per hit. I feel like this might persuade some players to use more wishes or even spend to get her c1 or sig weapon and that doesnt sit right with me.
and also hp sands is less damage than atk sands at c0
Yeah a damage showcase is a lot better if you use 4 star weapons because everyone knows weapon banner is a scam and many don't have the funds to get her weapon when shes so mid. For waifu players getting only her is more than enough for many people.
@@MuhHeadHurt then it probably wouldn't be a "god mode" video tho
@@MuhHeadHurt but not everyone is f2p loser
@@mandolen3317 I... I don't think thats something to be proud of...
That 400k damage was pretty nice, but good luck getting burst on the next rotation 😢
Would really love to see her "defensive capabilities" In a team without the best healer in team or any healer. Also the fact that hu tao team would be okay/way better without her💀
Wow, really showing a lot of trust in dehya's damage mitigation by resorting to putting a kokomi in a hutao team 😂
Tbh xingqiu + dehya damage mitigation might have been enough already
@@applyinggaming9529 that's what should have been the team. It's clear that the fear of dying was too high when they're repeatedly coping that dehya is a good defensive unit lmao
@@applyinggaming9529 Yeah is ok, since XQ covers the fact that you only have infinite reduction to interruption for 9 sec. The normal E interruption of Dehya + XQ swords is enough to be able to tank most hits without getting push (that's why in the official live stream used XQ swords in her interruption showcase LMAO)
I've been using her as my last slot in a Hu Tao double hydro team and she works great since that team has really high HP and her damage mitigation is more than enough to aid in survivability. Only ult when your Hu Tao E runs out tho and you get that crit bonus for the duration!
Nice, and with Hu Tao + Dehya you probably won't need any healer
@@bang-naim but wouldnt it just be better to use a shielder like thoma and zhongli instead? Cus the shield follows your active character and completely negates/absorb damage with 100% uptime. With dehya you still get damaged, restricted in a certain area, and it has a bad uptime
@@jayvaldez9984 thing is I dont have Zhonlgli and as for Thoma, he tends to be worse offensively and defensively for that team, rather use him with Yoimiya
@@jayvaldez9984 thoma might steal vapes, that's why tankfei is pref... was prefer.. tankfei is better than thoma in hutao team. lol ^^' zhongli could crystallize and so remove the application and ruin some vapes aswell.
zhongli+albedo was changed to double hydro when yelan came out as bis. i don't really know if dehya is an upgrade from tankfei, i didn't check with hutao mains since i don't really care, i don't use her :'3 all of this info was just casually read here and there when i was looking for something else :P
I would say you would even be able to run funerational with xiangling as a last slot instead of dehya as you are clearly skilled enough for that
moga turning those dendro chunks into pyro broke my soul. they are still quite hard to get considering there are only 2 overworld bosses dropping those, and having 2 dendro characters next patch is gonna be annoying to raise😹😟
but it takes literally 15 seconds to kill those bosses......
@@escapetherace1943 resin
@@lechugster8648 ? Are chunks a problem? You farm a boss for a few days. You can also turn any chunk into any element with a little shop dust it's not a big deal
@@escapetherace1943 Seems like a problem when you wanna raise a character right now and lack stardust 😒
@@lechugster8648 it isn't... you should have a lot of the other dust you buy with stardust saved away for times like this, it's very cheap I recommend stocking some of it
Seeing her do decently well is so satisfying. Mine will never lololl
Moga: "Wow that floor went pretty smoothly im pretty sure nobody get even close to diyng"
Kokomi: "Yeah i think i did a good job there right?"
Moga talks about dehya being more of a def support "like zhongli" instead of a dps
Kokomi: "..."
Yeah brother was smoking some wild shit this vid that's for sure lol
@@xMobius i mean he is not wrong about her being better as a def support than a dps but that support kit of hers feels like xingqiu downgrade
poor kokomi :(
Ofc no one died, there was Kokomi
Moga blink twice if youre being held hostage by HYV to make a video about dehya being 'good'😳😳
I don't understand defending Dehya by saying she is a support with defensive capabilities when you are showcasing her as a DPS first, and then doing an abyss run with Kokomi. I don't think such a test functions when you want to see if Dehya's fits as a Zhongli replacement, since normally people are not going to play Zhongli and Kokomi on the same team.
At least you did not use Xingqiu, because then you would made Dehya's completely redundant, since he already offers a better resistance to interruption than her, while also giving some healing and all the other things that make Xingqiu so broken.
Of course you are free to play as you wish, and make videos as you like, I just don't get how is this a showcase of Dehya's capabilities. Maybe it's just me being too cynical, or simply it's a case in which I just don't get the point of the video. In any case I appreciate your work.
He never rlly does research on chars before showcasing them so im not surprised
I'm pretty sure he's just trying to enjoy the game dude. People can have fun without adhering to the Meta or making broken characters
@@ShadowsBBG the community and how loud they can be when you're just tryna find a guide for the new char kinda rlly tries to ruin that for some tho ngl
He was stressing the triple Kenki fight. While using Kokomi with Dehya. Which just meant the real stars of the fight was kokomi,, yelan, and hu Tao.
Anyone else notice when she was c0 he was using a level 12 circlet? And then for the scara showcase he changed it to a leveled piece lol
I like how you give her a fair chance seems like you are enjoying her very much 😊
Seeing Moga turn 21 Dendro gems into pyros with 2 Dendro characters coming out next patch
Not that it's anything major... But still 💀
He can fodder other gems into Dendro i think that may be why he did it with no hesitation
@@quantumtheabyssalwolf950 yeah he can
Quick question why is the crit dmg circlet on dehya still lvl 12 and not 20?
My toxic trait is that I think I can pull of the numbers he’ll prolly get in this vid 💀
You are right gouba is better😉
@@realrayyankhan all hail the stove god
Using the 3 best supports in the game will give u higher numbers with any other character so
@@Relevart9169 and u literally normally use the 3 best supports in the game FOR A DANG SHOWCASE so why ppl keep feeling the need to call this out is beyond me
@@quantumtheabyssalwolf950 because she's doing nothing WHILE using them
the next spiral abyss you should do a randomizer nuzlocke
The fact Moga was using a +12 Circlet at the start hurts my soul. 😭
5:49 NO ONE IS TALKING ABOUT THE LEVEL 12 CIRCLET???
nice venti showcase :D i really liked this video, thanks for the Dehya showcase! she has replaced zhongli on my team, which, i thought was impossible but has made playing the overworld game pretty fun. I recommend an overload burgeon team with Dehya, Nahida, Barbara and Shinobu....lots of numbers. Unfortunately...I'm now forever tempted to get cons for a standard banner character, which, tends to be painful and I already main Kaeya lol.
if you slot anyone else instead of dehya you will still see lots of numbers, that's a core hyperbloom team you got there lol ^^'
@@Laguccia Yeah, i love how he calls it “Overload Burgeon”, literally any character would work in a hyperbloom team, and anyone besides Dehya works better. Even Eula would be better for more NA damage
Looking at the comment section in this video, people are REALLY hating on Dehya's kit just because "ShE's NoT DoInG hU tAo DaMaGe" or something like that. There are even people that commented like they haven't watched the entire video and just wants to join the hate bandwagon. Moga was actually ENJOYING Dehya throughout the video. Meanwhile, some comments are convinced that he's "high on copium" or something 🙄.
I'm not saying you can't criticize Dehya's kit or anything, but a character not doing big damage doesn't equal bad kit, and it doesn't justify attempting to ruin someone else's enjoyment of that character.
Also, unpopular opinion: I see Dehya as more of a defender than a fighter, so her kit makes sense to me.
I also think Dehya is more of a defender too. To me, she seems like the textbook definition of the “jack of all trades, master of none” saying. I’d argue that she’s not all that bad, but where she supposedly “shines” other characters are way better to use than her.
She takes "if you die you don't do damage" to a whole new level
titled "dps dehya" but gameplay test in abyss as support. why did you even upload this?
The copuim level in this video is through the roof 💀
Dude needed to review her in a vacuum with no comparisons to other characters THAT IS C1 AND A 5 STAR WEAPON
like just say she is really bad are you really that scared of being canceled 💀
I believe anyone would be, and saying that he won't do a Raised and God Mode vid for that character because of it would likely cause the angry mob to start yelling
I'm aiming for C1 also. Hopefully I win my 50/50. Interesting that you thought 12-2 was the hardest. I actually think that was the easiest for me, 12-1 was needlessly hard but only because I was unaware of the electro infusion and refused to restart and pick a new team
i really REALLY wish you used emblem on her
The Abyss part was just a Hutao showcase he didn't even use hydro for Dehyas burst to do more than 14k a hit and says its bad, allthough before that he did arround 40k to massanori with some buffs active
I've heard Nilou's E ring works for a vape Dehya team
Tbh she’s just like itto but it’s just that dehya’s burst just cancels when she jumps.
Is like itto in gameplay but in dmg is like Itto having a level 1 weapon.
I've been waiting for Dehya since Sumeru launched. I was bummed about how 'lackluster' her kit is. Despite that, I rolled for C6.
My Dehya isn't fully built up yet since I am very behind on materials. She is currently lv80/80 waiting for the final uncap. Her talents are lv6.
She has ZERO energy problems at C6. You burst, do a team rotation and she is ready to burst again. Good.
Her damage is a little low right now because I don't use the Bennet or Mona or Kazuha combos, and her artifacts are currently trash. But even still, she is doing way better than I was expecting. Can't wait to properly have her finished.
This video gave me hope, thank you!
It was nice to actually see some damage in there!
i really hopre she is in the same spot Yoimiya was in when she came out, where people discover how strong she actually is a few patches later.
well, let's be fair: I love yoi (mine's double crowned) but she's not that strong, and pretty much nothing changed that fact. theory crafters have had the same opinion about her pretty much from the start: decent single target pyro dps, inferior to hu tao, works. with dehya there really isn't much that can make her better - her kit is just bad. maybe a broken hydro support from fontaine? and even then that has a chance of backfiring and making hu tao/yoi/xiangling even stronger, so yeah.... I don't see our girl dehya becoming good all of a sudden. for now even diluc is better than she is.
the difference here is:
Yoimiya still works the same as hu tao, only single target focused (hence they called her worse hu tao).
*yoimiya owner here triple crowned*
Dehya on the other hand doesn't have a good, or worse, at least a working gimmick that could've made her functional.
No, she wont. People that compare Dehya with Kazuha, Kokomi or Yoimiya aren't aware of how weak and bad Dehya is. None of those examples were weak, all fuction perfectly and got stronger with sets or units but they weren't WEAK at all. Dehya is weak already, her base dmg and defensive utility is bad, she lacks the uptime in her defensive buffs to make her decent and she lacks the multipliers to be a decent dps. That's why the only good comparasion is 1.1 Zhognli, he was so weak and people was so mad about it that they buffed him 2 patches later, pre buff Zhongli was weaker shielder than Diona and didn't give any buffs to dmg.
@@aeowinh everyone said they were weak
Dehya Godmode!
28k damage...
She does 28k each 🤦♀️
12 lvl circlet very pog indeed
You need Mona, Kazuha, and Bennett to make her that strong. My Xiao does that kind of damage without any team buff.
27k with c1, signature weapon, bennet, kazuha and mona xDDDD
Its so funny that a 1/4 of deyha dmg at the start was bennet
You had a lvl 12 circlet in the first part of testing
But everything else was good
I would hate to lose 50/50 to a standard banner character for a character that will be standard banner soon...
Okay Moga, how much did they pay you?
To Vaporize Dehya Burst:
1) Use Benny burst,
2) Use Kazuha skill, swap off
3) drop Mona skill, burst, swap
4) Dehya burst, remember to spam skill for it to come out faster
You can use Kazuha ult in her downtime to still get the dmg
Dehya is a 3* xinyan is what they said look at her now
5* c1 looking stronger than a c0 4*
She has the best design in the game too bad she’s ass unless you invest an arm and a leg
im sure not the best
But your opinion 👍
and yeah they hate claymores
@@EpicCoolUsername ok I was exaggerating a bit but my point is that she’s hot
My dehya sitting at 195% energy recharge XD
I need a mona... I still don't have her 😢
I think most of us will be like Moga.
Casual/Daily players who's not so much into min-maxing theory crafting so Dehya is fine for us in this way.
I strongly disagree, unless you enjoy the gameplay she will be tilting to use even in overworld. Without very very good artifacts and weapons she will struggle in all content in the game. Is I think the only 5* with Alloy that I won't recommend to a new player or casual player without build characters.
lmao I cant stop laughing at how much moga emphasizes she's a defensive unit just for his venti to die while she's on the team. really goes to show how badly her kit was designed and executed
Does whaling from week one this game came out mean you've donated over a thousand dollars now to genshin impact lol, not being mean just curious
Doesn’t Dehya want Atk sands over Hp sands?
at c0 yes on c1 it's more like 50/50 with atk and hp
Dehya is good
Plain and simple
me when i lie
@@abdelrahmantarek7929 then don't lie
turning the dendro shards into pyro lmao, hes gonna regret that one later for sure
What's the point of building a national team... If you didn't use that team in the Abyss.. you literally just threw Yelan at her and expected damage.. and what's the point of bringing hu tao... If you wanted a "DPS" Dehya on floor 12.. like why even c1 her if that's the case..
People are coping hard trying to make her good for pulling her,as so far they feel like they lost on winning the 50/50
Moga, try giving her good/decent Clam set and try auto-beating any world boss.
My yoimiya does more damage with no buffs (and no vape)
but yet copium players will still say "Dehya is good"
Dehya's ult's weakness is jumping.... yes jumping 🤧🤧🤧. Any Dehya owners here try jumping while on your ult, it will get canceled
She has a new meme build with the clam set full HP she can afk a boss given enough time
Dehya's burst is just a Musou attack from Dynasty Warriors
I waiting for Shenhe but if all the stuff i hear on Dehya was false would of tried getting her ngl.
The level 12 circlet😂
It’s so crazy to me that literally all Moga’s characters are level 90 and I can’t even level up my supports lol!!
No need to rush, every one of us (that don't expend or only very little) were like that when characters were only 60 and maybe your main dps at 80 lol
@@aeowinh I’m ar 55 lol
Moga u need to do kazuha E swirled with pyro then swirl mona with kazuha Q it will increase yor vaporize damage
um are we gonna ignore the lvl 12 circlet at the start
moga no fucking way, i went for c1 dehya and got mona too
why not emblem ?
So a pattern that I've noticed in Genshin is that the kit and talents are reflective of the character's personality and their story. Clear lines can be drawn between character traits and skills, and the devs tend to stick to this principle even at the expense of the meta (Xinyan doing physical damage as a pyro unit is in line with her theme of subverting expectations for instance). Dehya is a mercenary, who focuses on bodyguard work and is the kind of person who will secretly sell her claymore to help a cause she believes in. Thus her kit is designed around her providing added support and rounding out a party as a support-dps/damage reducer/reaction enabler. As a mercenary, she's a hired sword; and as a hired sword, she doesn't lead the charge, she just kinda helps where she can.
Seriously, once your start looking at the talents as extensions of the personal story/lore, every single kit starts making so much more sense. Dehya adds survivability by being a good bodyguard and putting her life on the line hence her HP scaling.anyone who scales off HP in any capacity has a track record of putting their health/safety second btw... She increases resistance to interruption which is nice for the squishies but is especially great for the chibis and her trailer showed us she loves kids. Yaoyao driving a burgeon team with Dehya is actually a lot of fun. Finally, she has decent pyro application because she's fiery, duh.
Her kit also makes more sense once you realize the pyro damage her skill provides is just meant to be auxiliary. Again she's not gonna be the main star because she's aiming to get the "most assists". Mechanically, she was given a version of Albedo's skill and Fischl's Burst so that she could support from behind the scenes and reposition herself while applying pyro to everything. Basically, she helps when you're not looking and you can use her to punch your way out of a tough spot if you find yourself cornered... kind of like a bodyguard, say whaaaaaatttt!?
"Oh, her burst gets canceled if you jump"
So?
You can cancel Fischl's burst too. That only increases your options for gameplay. And all of this before you start fiddling with artifact sets and the various party buffs you can have her trigger.
She's not bad so much as she doesn't have an obvious role to fill, and the reason for that is because as a mercenary her role is always changing. Feature, not a bug. This means you can build her in a lot of different ways and tailor the kind of support you want her to be. To cap it all off she literally asks you what her job is when she joins the party lol.
Ok, I get your point and I really am glad you found this out, it's truly beautiful
But
There are parts of Dehya's kit that are bad design, with no lore implication or anything
For example, as you mentioned, her burst being cancelled when you jump
You said it provides more options, but it absolutely does not. It just taxes any mobile player for mistapping, or any pc player for pressing the space bar one too many times once they got frozen
It also adds nothing useful, and swapping out can also cancel her burst if you'd wanna do that for...some reason
You also mentioned Fischl's burst and I honestly wish the two were simmilar, but there are two key differences that make Dehya's burst suck and fischl's not suck
1. Dehya's burst only recasts her skill if it was already active
If fischl's oz ran out, you can burst and quickly swap out, and there he is again! If Dehya's skill ran out you have to wait. For the entire cooldown.
2. Dehya's burst *doesn't reset her skill's duration*
If you read her burst description carefully, her burst recasts her skill with whatever duration it already had, so using it to refresh her skill simply. Doesn't. Work.
Besides that, there's the fact that her burst doesn't trigger Xingqiu's, Yelan's, Beidou's, or Thoma's bursts, nor does it gain any advantage from normal attack buffs. This isn't atrocious necessairly, but it greatly removes a lot of her options and makes playing her a lot less fun
None of the above have any lore implications, they are simply bad design
I wish there was any artifact set or something that could help Dehya, but all artifacts can do is up her dmg or maybe slightly lessen her issues. The only thing that can make Dehya actually good is a total rework of her burst from hoyoverse, who have made continuous conscious choices that led to her being bad
Sorry
Step 3: Bargaining
Too much copium, how embarrassing
I legitimately can’t tell if this essay was satire or the purest form of copium I’ve ever seen.
The difference is Fischl burst is only one 20k hit while jump canceling Dehya's burst is 20-90% of your total dps. Not to mention mobile players which makes up the majority of the community always mistakenly press the jump button due to horrible design.
Xingqiu who is a self proclaimed defender of justice has better defense than her. One of Morax's titles is a warrior god and yet his kit is all about shielding. Layla is a random ass student who somehow got an visison and still does her defensive utilities better than her. Do I even have to mention Diona who is an bartender and she heals and shields. What the hell does that has to do with anything in her story besides hating alcohol. These characters all have better Defensive capabilities than the character in lore that is more qualified than any of them. Let's not even talk about her dps. How the heck does a random ass Funeral director does more damage than one of the strongest mercs in Teyvat and the man who single handedly forced the harginbers to try to kill him themselves because of how much of a mess he made in snezhnaya.
I understand your argument but it is pure copium. Sorry
Nilous is prob the best way to vape most of dehya's hits
18:38 kokomis octopus HELPPPPP 💀💀💀💀
I dream for the day I have the amount of artifacts as moga
You know you're actually supposed to use your character's skills to get energy and using Mona's skill and NOT Kazuha's burst is Integral to getting Dehya to Vape and do good damage.
Her HP *was* actually 40k. It was 46k when you put her in a team due to weapon. She went to 50k after you C1'd her.
Kokomi on a Hu Tao team...
I want Dehya but I can't muster the strength to summon her. If I summon for her and I lose my 50/50 trying to get a 50/50 character, it will destroy my soul.
but the cryo goddesses Ayaka, Shenhe, and Eula are all going to have their turns next so what's losing a 50/50 really but guaranteeing one of them 😉
@@escapetherace1943 I already have Ayaka and Shenhe so I'm not pulling for them. I will be pulling for Ayaka's weapon though since I didn't get it the first time. I don't really have any interest in Eula either. I think I'll just pass on Dehya for now and keep saving.
@@KamronA I want my first cryo character and it's gonna probably be Eula. Shame she doesn't do freeze comps but I'm willing to live with it because I like her the most out of the 3.
@@escapetherace1943 Eula is very good. She's just not my play style but she is very good.
Instead of always using masanori for showcases, you should think about doing the vermillion and echoes Doman. 3 decently tanky enemies that if positioned right stay close together
Am i the only one who realized his criclet is level 12
I want her so badddd
She's just feel like all 4 star sumeru, really-really constellation dependant, C2 is bare minimum for her to feel like how C0 5 star look like.
That's why this feel sucks when slowly 5 star became constellation dependant
is there a reason the circlet he’s using isn’t fully raised?
am i the only who noticed the lvl 12 circlet...
idk how ppl are hating on her after this video i see she is fun and good if uyou build her
she is terrible lmaoo
Wooo dehya does fmg for 4 seconds and then she has no burst for a really long time so you better one shot
did no one notice that her circlet is lvl 12?
Moga should try deyha rosaria reverse melt
why not emblem of severed fate?
These comments regurgitating the same shit everyone else is saying if it's not about her jump cancelling her burst, it's a joke abut her rarity, her damage or her kit like..can we think of something else.
MiHoYo needs to stop it with the constellation bait. Most of us can't pull copies of a 5 star and gimping their kit/dmg to make you shell out 200 dollars for a constellation is beyond insane. They already make bookoo tier $$ and still give us the same running animations for each character model, like Nahida.... Hoyo please.....
dehya is such a cool character but her c1 SHOUYLD have just been part of her normal kit. shes weak otherwise. also she should have a lower energy cost considering it lasts four seconds. also she would be much better if her uptime for skill was better considering the interuption res is only amazing for nine seconds. im excited to loose fifty fifty to her tho !!
Just for this video, I'll try 2 multies to get her c1
Edit: OMG i got her in the first multi 😂😂🔥🔥
More Dehya cope. Fix Dehya's kit.
Hello moga
"Dehya works as intended. Just don't use her at all."
Revisit Dehya please
27k is good but that is until you look at other pyro 5 stars like yoimaiya or hutao or diluc compared to their dmg 27k is not good but if you like her then you go ig and even 40k for c1 or for c0 is not that strong it is good but not strong like other characters at c0 or c1
dehya is such a queen ❤
Dehya is love Dehya is life💆🏽♀