Shock Therapy LIVE: A Trouble FREE Polaris RZR Pro XP
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- How to build a trouble free Polaris RZR Pro XP
Polaris RZR Pro XP Suspension Upgrades: shocktherapyst....
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I don’t have an Xp, i have a Can Am, I just like listening to Justin talk about UTVs and learning about everything. Thank you guys !
Thank you!
Are you guys going to make an PRO XP rundown? Would love to see it!
Ordered my sway bar links and frame supports today. Thank you for these videos! It’s so awesome to see a company investing in reaching out to the community and providing their expertise and knowledge.
Thank you
Wow! What a fantastic concept to create a video of having someone as knowledgeable as Justin outlining recommended changes to a vehicle to get it to where it needs to be. I can't stress enough how helpful something like this is to the general public! I could envision a series of "trouble free" vids produced by ST for each brand and model of UTV that's currently on the market. I'm located in Lake Havasu City AZ and I'm looking at buying a brand new 2021 KRX 1000 within the next few months and I would LOVE to hear from Justin as to what changes/upgrades he would recommend right out of the gate. My guess would be an ST spring kit with the silent crossovers. But I would love to hear what he has to say, especially since he owns a KRX. Thanks!
Thank You Team Shock Therapy for all the great intuitive information for our machines. I work downtown in Phoenix and saw one of your utility trucks going down Washington St. and got all pumped🤘
Dude is literally the SXS Dr! Lol “I would like to see upgraded ball joints” “I would like to see” I love it! Thank you for SOOOOOO much free information you give us. Insanely cool of you guys to take the time every week 👍🏼
Amazing technical information with no fluff that is presented in a very straight forward fashion using layman's terms. Your engineering background makes your videos so much more appealing to me than others merely sharing their opinions. I am buying a Pro XP Ultimate 2 seater today. Man am I stoked! I have appreciated the information on this car that you have shared with us over other videos. At the beginning of this video you said that you did not have enough mileage to be able to share maintenance information on the Pro XP. Please revisit this car specific maintenance follow up video for the Pro XP. Thank you!
Talon guys are probably loosing their minds right now!!!
Tip for another segment, how about an in-depth video about seats and harnesses. Different types, stock vs aftermarket, methods to properly secure them in machines etc.
I have followed Justin since his first video out in the black volcanic cinder trails. I always learn something from his shared knowledge, and I know everything. Ask my wife. 2021 will be the year to finally spend some big dough at S.T.
I agree with Jose Rubio. This is very informative about suspension. Should have schooling that people like us can attend to learn first hand.
These videos by far is the Best new series of videos out there. Learned a lot without all the. B.S. that other creators putout. Thank you
thank you
Can you post the list of upgrades being recommended in the more information area? It would make it easy to create a shopping list.
I would love to see some shows on budget machines like a Kawi teryx 800 or wolverine. I just purchased a 2018 teryx 2 . Giving us new to sxs riding ways to improve and really enjoy our machines on all conditions until we can upgrade. Thanks love your videos you guys are absolutely the top on info in this industry keep up the good work. Look forward to seeing if there is any way to improve travel and ride on my teryx so i can hang with my Talon friends.
We are working on those units. Will have a feed for you but it will be some time. I have to drive them all first.
Shock Therapy llc ok thanks for the response look forward to your input and recommendations on them.
Would like to hear more about your general xp 4 Justin. Ours would like any of your available upgrades
Another great need to know video,you guys are all over it💯#NO CHASE🙏🏻🤪
I have learned a lot from shock therapy it will help me on on buy a sxs thx
Love your videos. If I end up keeping my XX, I’m gonna head down to Phoenix for the Stage 3 RIS. If not, you’ll be seeing me with whatever 4 seater I buy
Good job getting on sxs blog. Will boost your sales for sure.
Hey man just saying thanks for the last weeks shock advice on the rebound an high low settings it helped a lot for myself an got my low speed setup a lot better now on my fox 2.0 commander 1000X after I lifted my springs to about half way down the shock threads and riding at 14” clearance but low speed was suffering bad thanks a bunch ✌️
Glad to help!
Great video thanks for dong them give us a lot of thing to look at on the cars to see what we need
I know your the guru but it’s funny to hear that a RZR is more reliable than a X3...its contrary to what I hear out in the dunes. But I know you know what your talking about...👍
I have a 2020 Xp turbo. Not the S. Is the stock front diff the stronger one like the S or should I upgrade it?
Did you ever figure it out? Interested on the same for the 19 xpt
Only rs1, turbo s, and pro have the good diff.
Where Justin was pointing on the tranny, I had a bearing failure just under that next to the gear selector cable mount. Blew a hole out of the casing.
Would you guys recommend a S&B Separator like the one the Black RAZOR had?
I would. They work great. But a bit of advice. If you can route the intake for the air cleaner into the cab of the car or at least forward of the rear firewall you won't ever get a dirty filter.
I have a ‘14 XP1000 with your RIS stage 3. Everything but the front sway bar. When should I think about sending the walkers in for a rebuild?
I’m ordering a 2022 XP Pro ultimate, have you tested enough yet to have recommendations of what needs to be upgraded?
They should really add that this is west coast style riding. I want to know how the units hold up after being sunk a handful of times over 15 years, having a extra 50lbs of clay/mud stuck to the wheels for 8 hours. Having the radiator be completely jam packed full of mud, temp light flashing as the headers glow cherry red from a rip in the swamp, driving 2-3 feet under water. After a few months of that, run it at full throttle on the ice at -15F. That's what most midwest Hondas have been going the last 30 years. Show me a Polaris ATV from the 1980s. Edit: Forgot to add, all my Yamahas and Hondas do ride like crap, but at least they came from South Carolina and Georgia.
OK, I do not know anything about these machines ...yet. I just want to explore the desert and drive around town. I just want something reliable and versatile. So what machine should I research? Thank you for these videos !
Yall should do something like this for the xp generals!
In the what should you buy live video, why wasn’t the naturally aspirated XP 1000 mentioned? Just the turbo. And what’s the difference between the XX and the tracker? Looking to buy a SxS soon.
For a future episode an update on your new General XP 4 and what you have done to it, the improvements with suspension etc. And if anything needs to be upgraded as in this episode on the Rzr XP's and the one you did on the Can Am's.
Will do when we get that one done.
Good deal, thank you. Once I pick one up you guys will be one of the first performance upgrades, every review I watch on your products is extremely positive and the series you put out during the Covid crisis has been really great. I think everyone who has watched your series has learned a lot. Now if they would only introduce a General XP turbo for 2021... hey, one can wish lol
Awesome videos, thanks for the helpful insight. Any word if Kawasaki will be releasing a 4 seater sport anytime soon?
Which is better more reliable side x side a pro xp or a maverick x3 rr or a krx for trail riding hill climbing and durability
If you have a newer KRX with clutch updates it’s the best. No frame or suspension isdues
What is up with Polaris squeezing down completely the top springs in the rear? How should I set that spring up
these are great videos. sounds like the polaris is a great platform. Id love to watch a video on sand tires. I go to the dunes like once a year but i dont know what im looking for. seems like tires are a science.
Are these recommendations more towards the 4 seater or 2 seater? I just bought the xp1000 premium 2 seater and now I’m curious if I should keep these upgrades in mind or wait to swap them out when it’s necessary? Thanks!
On a side note, if Kawi puts some power in the KRX, they will be hard to beat.
Great episode.
Does an XPT need the front diff upgrade?
Hey guys, I got a 2016 rzr xp turbo 2 seater all stock except a front bumper, 4500lbs winch, rear hitch, AA STAGE 2 clutch kit and AA stage 3 tune and aftermarket exhaust. What upgrades do you recommend? I usually do trail riding very little sand riding and blast down lease roads.
Do I need to worry about the transmission bearing failure on my xpt 2018 dynamix if I run 32” tires? Mentioned in this video? Stock hp only clutch upgrade
Nope. The XP has the weak bearing. Not so much the turbo trans. But also if your car is a play car you will be fine.
When you say bearing upgrade to the transmission, can you give specifics on what a person would need to order & where to purchase them from?
The factory bearings are on the cheep side. Also one is under oiled. Contact Weddle, Cryo heat or sand craft for the bearing upgrades. Usually they upgrade the oiling system to help the under oiled bearing when they have the gear box apart. Good luck
@@ShockTherapyllc thank you
@@ShockTherapyllc did they fix in the pro xp transmission?
@@travisfeld97 yes. Completely upgraded in the Pro XP
I’m still waiting for a IQS System for a 2020 XP 1000 Turbo S.. when do you think they will come out? @shocktherapy
If it is a fox shock car we can do it. If it is a walker car we won't have something for some time.
What Clutch kit Do you suggest on my 2015 XP 1000 with 30 inch tires
When will the bullet proof pro xp video come out ($2000 and unlimited budgets)?
Way over 2k haha just replace everything
Y’all should do a trouble free can am maverick sport next! Thinking about buying a four seat
Hey guys these videos are awesome information, would it be possible to do a similar segment for the Wildcat XX, I love mine just looking for small improvements..... and yes a spring kit is one of the first things I want to do :)
What's your website to order parts i have a 2021 xp 4 1000 and need all this upgrades??
Any possibility of getting a recommended upgrade kit added to the site? So that one could one click purchase the recommended items from your shop. Instead of going part by part and adding them to the cart so we don't mess with your metrics on sales in the digital cart.
Good idea. I will work on that.
What fire extinguisher would you recommend? Is an abc fine or should halon or Co² be an option?
I have never used a halon system on a car so I can't offer any advice there. But, all BITD or SCORE rules require ABC style systems if that helps.
You talked about clutching for the xp turbo. What is your go to clutch kit for the xpt. And your recommendations on belt temps
dynojet. Every belt temp gauge is different so hard to say. Our race car blows up belts at 260. I know guys that blow them at 230. Just a gauge difference really
@@ShockTherapyllc What type of gauge do you run? Brand?
@@rolandhintzman9750 I have a razor back in my pre runner because we don't care too much about that car. It isn't raced and does not have belt issues. We run a wide band IR sensor from AIM that can measure belt temps on the sides and center of the belt. It is run to the AEM dash and displayed digitally.
are u all going to do anything in the future for four wheelers specifically outlander
What sxs would you guys recommend for koh chocolate thunder??
Would this apply with the general XP as well
Would like to hear your thoughts on 2019 and newer yxz paddle shift cars?
Check out our what utv to buy feed about 12 videos back.
I have seen 35s on the KRX. Looks awesome. I'm curious about a serious test of the KRX with 35s and long term term durability.
Good question. I probably won't be the guy for you though. I just don't think I am ever putting 35's on our car. I foresee a lot of front diff, axle, hub bearing issues. Maybe rack too.
Shock Therapy llc I figure that was coming soon. Can you guys give your early thoughts on the KRX. I know you probably don’t have a lot of time in the car yet but maybe some tech talk?
Jamey Arthurhultz actually we have over 2500 miles on our KRX. I love it. If it was Turbo’d it might be my top pic. Check out our what UTV to buy video
Canam X3 question, Is paying for Canam x3 RC worth it over the RS? Great videos.
For me, off road racing or desert or dunes, mountain trials it isn't worth it. We just don't use or need some of those options.
@@ShockTherapyllc Thank you. I was asking for a friend since he is in the market for a new UTV. I told him to go with the KRX, with all the great comments you have made about the suspension. I own a YXZ (I know, I know) will be sending my suspension to you guys in a few months.
Is the Turbo transmission upgraded like the turbo S. Or does the XP Turbo need upgraded transmission bearings as well?
No. The turbo trans needs bearings. The turbo s and pro do not
I have an XP4 1000. What tire size would you recommend for trail riding like Ocotillo Wells? I plan on putting 32”s but I’m not too sure.
32-33 is perfect. Not 35 s. Too much stress
@@ShockTherapyllc thank you for helping me make the decision. Everything else can stay stock except it’s preferred to add a clutch kit I’m guessing? Next is buying the shocks from you guys!
Please spend some time giving a detailed explanation of the Talon R geometry issue, even if it's just on the white board.
Will do that on Tuesday for you. I will include the YXZ in that as well since the same geometry issue affects both cars.
How's the front diff on the 2021 xp 4 door ? Same issue? Fixed?
All XPs are the same. Turbo S and Pro have huge new diffs.
@@ShockTherapyllc thanks 👍
When switching away bars on a budget. Would you recommend the front or rear on a 2020 XP4 Turbo?
If all you do is the dunes then I would do the rear bar. If you do desert and trail with a bit of dunes I would suggest a front bar. It would balance the car the best with all terrains considered.
Also do you guys have a deal with any whip companies??
Are these also suggested for a 2020 model?
What sport UTV has the least amount of weak links or parts that can easily fail, especially when upgraded with more power and bigger tires?
turbo S or XP pro
How do you tune a clutch????
where are u guys located im in west phx & im trying to upgrade lots of suspension components?
On the turbo s rack install video you guys state that the dynamix shocks on a turbo s are right and left side specific. I marked mine and sent them in to you guys for the internals (rebuild/revalve). They came back with new stickers and no markings for which side is which. What should I do?
The front shocks reservoirs are angled toward the firewall. If standing behind the turbo S the rear shocks reservoirs are angled towards the outside of the car or away from the engine. If you get it wrong the shocks actually can’t be installed at all so you will get it right no matter what 👍
@@ShockTherapyllc rock on..thank you guys! Can't wait to try these things out!!
I don t know if you ever saw this but my xp turbo 2019, 5 months old, rub the main electrical harness near the top of the belt aluminum casing. I was wondering if it happened to someone else...
Have not seen that.
Do you have sway bar links that fit the polaris general?
Not yet. Working on it
has there been any improvements to the 2021 RZR XP turbos over other years? I have a 4 seater coming in October is why I ask. Thanks
Following have the same car
I own a 2020 Honda Talon 1000X-4
With the Fox Live Valve.
What improvement rate is doing a revolve and spring job or whatever on it? Is it worth the money
Springs help 25%. Shock internals help another 50% better than it is stock
Shock Therapy llc
Thank you since I live in Gilbert and shipping will be cheaper what the total price including tax for both springs and revalve. Oh and can I have the new springs powder coated to match my orange again? Thank you.
Looks like your putting your billet xp pro radius rods on the xpt? Are they the same?
Different length.
Does this go for 2020 turbo xp for upgrades?
Is it same on northstar
When you say the Turbo S and XP Pro don't need the same front diff and rear trans upgrade as the XP does that statement include the XPT? It's mechanically the same as the Turbo S (minus the suspension) correct?
No. The XPT has an older weaker front diff than the new turbo s abd pro
Me im from canada i want to buy a rzr 900s or 1000xp not for drag is for trail and mud and do you think is a good choice or im better with can am i dont no wath to buy i want someting im not gona be broken to offen and cheap to ride tanks for your help
I caught some pictures of guys at king of hammers changing the rear suspension geometry on the yxz.
Have you guys ever thought about doing anything like thism if there was ever a car that needed suspension upgrades it is the yxz
yes but we will never build long travel or A arms or trailing arms. It needs to be someone in the industry that does this already.
What's up guys! When mentioned early XP what years are yall referring to?
All XP1000 and XP turbo. . Just not XP 900 or Turbo S
@@ShockTherapyllc Thanks guys!!
Does your race car weight of 2500 to 2600 lbs include the driver and a passenger?
That is race ready no driver or passenger.
Love these videos! I'm looking to get back in next year and it's a toss up between the KRX or RZR-S Velocity. KRX cause it's built so well. It seems it needs nothing done to it out of the box. Yes it's a little under powered (has 3x what my long travel rhino had) but thinking I'd add a turbo down the road. I love the wheel base, ease of maintenance, width, cab room, visibility, belt temp sensor, oil window, comes with bead locks and I do about 90% trails, 10% dunes. The RZR-S Velocity would only be if I want to do more duning, but I'm worried about QC from Polaris, and I wish the wheel base was longer than 90". Thoughts...
Oh and I asked this cause you may have swayed me on the RZR-S if all it needs is sway bar link. You drive all this stuff so your input is greatly appreciated...thanks for putting these videos out.
@@71dbart between those two cars I feel that the KRX is a much more capable UTV. The power is similar and they will both trail very well, but if it gets really rough or you want to high speed some whoops or desert the KRX is much better for that without sacrificing anything in the trail stuff. IMHO
@@ShockTherapyllc Ooops, I meant the RZR Turbo S-Velocity.
@@71dbart Well dam. That changes everything. I love horse power and you can't compete with the Turbo S. But if your trail riding won't you have issues with the width? Also, do you need the power? If your comparing smaller UTVs that are non turbo I will still say the KRX. But comparing the KRX with the Turbo S I will go Turbo S.
@@ShockTherapyllc LOL, We do Barstow, El Mirage, Gorman, Calico, Dumont and Glamis. I know how well the KRX is built but also under powered. I wasn't sure if the new RZR Turbo S is better built than previous RZR models. If all it really needs is sway bar mount right off the bat, well I'll order them from you the day I get it LOL. Like I stated earlier, I just wish it had longer wheel base like the KRX. As for the width, my buddy has a Can Am XRS-72" wide and goes everywhere we go.
DAMN! seven commercials to watch this show. Ridiculous youtube!
Make it 9 commercials.
What would you upgrade on a 2020 RZR turbo S. Alot of rattle from rear door is one annoying thing.
Turbo S is pretty solid. I would spend a lot of time tuning the clutch perfectly. Rack and pinion maybe. Tie rods, radius rods but that is about it. I never care much about rattles honestly. I should but I usually have a helmet, clean air and intercom on so it's a none issue for me.
Take some black tape and put a couple rounds on the door striker on the body side at the front of the door. Also remove the 2 door pins and put a small piece under the flat head end of the pin
then re-inistall. That solved all the door rattles on my 2020 xpt4.
How much applies to XPT 2018 model???......... :-)
The real question is how do you put AC in the Polaris general? thanks
Buy all the AC parts for an ac in a ranger and make it work.
What has been done to your XX for race durability?
Nothing. Just the better axles they have developed. Could use a rack tho
Shock Therapy llc how critical do you guys think it is to race prep a trans and front diff on and xx I don’t race but I do run it hard
Is the main shaft bearing better in the 2021 turbo s
Yes. Turbo S is a completely different and upgraded trans
@@ShockTherapyllc is there a promo code I can use?I'm buying the sway links and radius rods.thanks in advance!!
@@benjaminm7857 sorry but you will have to call the shop Monday to see what they may have for you. I don’t do that stuff
I got the 2021 xp 1000 sport, did they upgrade the front diff on it or not, also I had a buddy give me 32" tires to try on it I have not even tried to go anywhere with them on I don't plan on pushing it too hard I just wana ride with my friends I would like to know if I will be fine running 32" tires with no other upgrades the stock tires are 29". Also would like your opinion on the 2021 xp 1000 did they upgrade anything over previous years or so.
do you have an XP 1000 or do you have a Trail sport?
@@ShockTherapyllc it's the xp 1000 that has the white lightning white/black/green not very many videos on it other than dealerships trying to sell it. Not very much info on it at all because everyone seems to skip over it for the premium or pro or turbo hopefully not because it is a bad machine I hope, got it as my first sxs Sept of last year. I got it brand new. Reason I added sport at the end of the name is because I saw a dealer label it exactly as that.
@@deathby1hpgaming485 So the XP 1000 does not have any updates. All the things in the video apply to your car as well. The Turbo S and Pro are the only ones with big diffs, arm bolts, tabs and transmission improvements
@@ShockTherapyllc to my original question though, I just rode around the yard with the 32" tires on they are the stock coyotes off a turbo s velocity, in the short term like one ride at top trails do you think they would mess up anything or should I stick with the bighorns that came with it for this ride and buy some things to make the 32s safe to run?
@@deathby1hpgaming485 The longer you spend on 32's the sooner the parts will wear out. If your foot is in it a lot then it will happen soon. If your foot is out of it then you can make it just fine for a few trips before you structure up all the important parts.
Can you guys make a trouble free YXZ video?
Justin said that he "used to have" and RS1. Why did he get rid of it? I though he loved RS1's. I'm curious because I love my RS1. I'd sell everything else before it.
Was the RS1 the one that caught fire? If so, he should go ahead and get him another before they stop making them.
Is there anyone local you would suggest to do RZR Turbo clutch tuning and modifications?
Local where.
@@ShockTherapyllc Phoenix
Good information
Do you guys offer financing?
No sir
Krx 1000 testing video, feedback. Etc.....
Almost done with that. coming soon
I’ve got a 2019 XP4 1K on 2” offset Method wheels with 30” tires. It’s a family car so I’m not adding power to the engine... Based on that do you guys think I’ll still need clutch tuning? I’m at 800miles and haven’t had belt issues yet, but I also blow out the clutch w/ air regularly.
Thanks for this video and the others. They’re strait to the point and answer the questions I’ve been wondering. 👍👍
Hi
With 30's your good with the stock clutch tune. Just make sure your replacing clutch parts that wear out as needed. They will cause belt issues often. Thank you
Bought my xp 8 hrs ago
Ok just having some fun but does the Honda Hater look exactly like a pale version of Jeffery Epstein? I'm not wrong...lol.
So the title was click bait :(
I'm guessing that people really drive the UTV's that are seen in the background of all your videos. However, everyone of them looks like a trailer queen...WTH...is going on?
If it has our name on it it gets massively flogged. If not then I can't speak for our customers.
@@ShockTherapyllc Well within a few months...if my planning works out...mine will be there; I need the R.I.S. put on it. I already have the front and rear sway bar/links....night and day difference. The coils go on tomorrow...at Marana Auto Body. The frame supports will be something done near the first of the month.
I have watched a number of your videos and taken a lot of notes on the improvements needed for my 2021 Polaris XP 1000 4. I noticed that everyone seems to be using the turbo…good for mid to highs; so I’m considering Kraftwork’s Supercharger; good for stop to mid, and programmed by Victor at Marana Auto Body. In either case, when it gets in your shop…know I run it everyday…and rubbing…is fucking racing.
Want a trouble free x3 dont buy one.