Shock Therapy LIVE: What UTV to Buy 2020?
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I know this is over a year old but as someone looking to get off bikes and into a SXS your experience and willingness to answer all these questions is greatly appreciated.
Thanks for posting. I’ll be looking for a more updates.
My brother-in-law was about to buy a Talon I said hold up and watch this first it’s a wealth of knowledge. He changed his mind.
Enjoy your belts and breakdowns.
You have such a great voice. No stammering or stuttering, perfect pitch. You should be making 10 million a year on NBC.
Appreciate the unbiased approach. Every other channel out there seems avoid the negatives because there trying to get or keep there sponsorship.
Exactly
Seriously the best, most honest reviews of these machines EVER!! you guys rock, please keep the reviews and no BS opinions coming!!
I have a Talon R that I bought in September. Three weeks ago, I was ready to get rid of it in favor of another Polaris (Ive had four). I decided to "roll the dice" with a shock and spring package from shock therapy, hoping I was not throwing good money after bad.
I picked it up a week ago from Shock Therapy but I was headed back to my home in Northern Nevada. I didn;t have a chance to give a test until yesterday...
I am once again happy with the ride. We do a lot of trail/dirt roads on ghost town trips and the slower speed stuff on the R was flat awful. My initial ride yesterday was positive. I'm going to keep it.
Good Job Shock Therapy.
Thank you for your report. I am super happy that you like the changes we made. Have fun with it!
Do you still have your Talon? What’s your opinion on that car,? I’m planning on getting one for the kids since I want it as reliable as possible and it will be their first sxs
I appreciate your professional opinion! I love my XX! Hope to bring it to you all to get shocks updated sometime. Thanks as always! You guys rock!!!
Holy Ads seriously, is it really necessary to have that many!
Wouldn't know. You tube premium
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Ya man get premium
a word of advice to anyone looking to buy a new rig drive them all I did and chose a yxz its awesome shifting gears is so fun but that's just my preference don't listen to me or this guy or anyone else drive them all and choose what you like
Best objective sxs video ever made, Thank you! Also thank you for emphasizing how much those YXZ guys are out of their minds.
Thank you. OMG!
Shock Therapy llc
Normal talon x vs live valve ?
Bought a new RZR RS1 last night. Cant wait to take it out this weekend.
Was it difficult to buy?
I’m sorry 😞
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I have watched this video now literally 10 times over last couple months. TONS OF GREAT INFO! Thank you all. One Choice FOR EAST COAST CAR - No whoops / Rocks-Trails-Mud-Hill Climbs Whats your choice 64" car and your choice 72" car?
Keep up the great work!
64. Lots of trails are restricted there. Also with tight terrain a narrow car would be ideal.
Finally!!! The video to end my search before pulling the trigger on buying a sxs! If only woods ridding was mentioned(will be doing alot of ridding at Hatfield and McCoy's) I still thank you for the information shared!
Anyone you can get. The local Polaris / Can Am dealer says so more orders for 2022 models. Waits for some popular models like the Pro-R are up to a year. Can Am’s are being shipped to dealers without critical components like the ECU.
As a suggestion for future topics, could you do a walk through and or overview of the race program side of the company? Chase trucks, race trailers, common parts and supplies carried etc. Thanks to you all, keep up the great work 👍
That is totally do able. We will get that done.
@@ShockTherapyllc Thank you
More videos with Justin please. You can just tell he is a kung fu master with how organized his thoughts are. Thank you for posting this.
This is what it means when someone says somebody is an expert in their field. The kind of guy that if you took your UTV in to have it worked on, you know he is going to tell you exactly what needs to be done, and it will work perfectly.
Glad to hear the positive Polaris General feedback. I have a g4 and shock therapy made it beyond awesome. Sold me that suspension should be the first mod hands down.
Sea stacker what shock or spring package did you purchase from shock therapy and do you think it would make a real improvement on Colorado trails? Thank you
Josh Hartman
I got the stage 2 with springs and internals. It was part of a bigger project for me, but for any future projects it will be in my top 3 mods. Never thought shocks could make a machine so much better.
I’ve never ridden Colorado, but I’ve ridden hatfield McCoy, Michigan and Tennessee (royal blue and windrock) and cant imagine a scenario where they wouldn’t make a huge improvement.
need to do an update video for the currently new 2022/23/24 models would be greatly appreciated by many your wisdom is very helpful
This is a valuable video for those in the market. Great unbiased information. Thank you!
This video really helped me make my decision on my first side-by-side purchase. I’ve been in rails and off-road most of my life but you guys should really make a video on beginner/entry-level stuff and recommendations for mods and set up on recommended cars.
I sold my 2020 turbo s. Just got the KRX so much happier. I dont race so that isnt a factor. Comfort, room, looks, shifting into gear way smoother, throttle response for rock crawler way better, passenger seat adjustable, bead locks. I love this thing. Which I would have done this fromt he start would have saved 10k. If I want more power they have a turbo that brings it to 174 hp which is more the the rzr.
"the talon ,bone stock, is the stiffest, harshest riding SXS on the market" .. I have heard that at least a hundred times
Live Valve Talon owner here. I concur with this statement.
@@bcfmef good friend you are , when you cant wait to have one of your personal friends being disappointed.
Josh Owens, would you still buy a Talon, knowing what you know now?
stiff suspicion keeps you planted blazing through tails its a give and take I think
@@dustinfields2055 Yes, the DCT is great and the power gets put to the ground pretty good. Its a family cruiser that I wanted to be built well and reliable. Only change I've made is 30" tires.
Great video ! I own a 2020 Talon X and love it . We knew the ride was iffy but for a majority of our riding trails and exploring we are fine with it . We inadvertently solved the issue with our Back Roads tailgate and spare tire mount . Would love to have the shocks reworked in time when money allows .
The gen 2 YXZ1000R SS SE is probably the best out of the box unit you can buy. For instance, it's the only car built with the radiator in back where it belongs, and the dual spring shock package is GTG for most trail use. Don't want your rubber band breaking contantly? Your looking aat Honda or Yamaha right now, and Yamaha is set to announce a new car this summer. If you were making a living selling UTV parts & service, it may be hard to recommend the car that needs the least work... ;) Thanks for having the spine to offer an opinion...most won't even do that, for fear of alienating the fanboys...If you want to spend $25K+ on a new car, plus another $10K in parts to keep it from falling apart, you need a Canam....My '20 YXZ is on day 3 at Texplex, and has seen hard use in the desert and dunes. Pipe, tune, winch, harnesses, and a extra set of wheels/tires. All she does is rip and beg for more :)
MERICA..... thanks for sliding in the comments with common sense. I've been eyeballing the yamaha for 2yrs. Waiting until this summer to make my decision and you pretty much made my mind.... there is no turning back now damnit. Thank you
One of the best videos for what a good machine is on the type of terrain people ride and what can be done with suspension.
I just found this channel and video trying to figure out what UTV I want and it turns out your shop is 10 minutes from my house. Awesome!!
Stop by some time!
This guys brain works flawlessly. Great video. Makes me wish I had lots of money to spend
Outstanding gentlemen! To have the advantage of your knowledge and the years it took to accumulate, is priceless! You have generously given a continent of knowledge sparing the bs. This is the most real, direct and educational video I've seen. Well done sir! Thank you for your kindness and vast knowledge in your field of expertise.
You sir are too kind. Thank you and we are glad to help!
btw the krx does have a after market turbo system for it so would love to see that on the krx I’m a big Kawasaki fan
I have a topic for you: Best safe and cushy ride for older couples who want to switch off driving. Must be able to capably handle the occasional drop off, rock, or puddle. If the machine can’t handle the unknown problems ahead, then speed must be reduced and fun with it! Not everyone can take the risks that young guys can.
Love it. We will try to get that done. Thank you.
Good to see that Chase dude still behind the lense lol!
I do love this video watched a couple times but I’m hoping shock therapy can do a new one with the newer machines.
Really nice getting the straight info on the machines like that. It also pretty well aligns with my experience in the machines I have driven on that list. A suggestion for topics- Must have items for X3, Pro XP. Also another topic would be building a race car (desert style, XC style and Short course style) what is needed /what is different?
great ideas. We will work on those. Thank you
Thank you guys I appreciate all your help. 🙏🏿
any time! Thank you
I'm a die hard Kawasaki fan, have a family of four, bought a Kawasaki teryx 4, it's slow and loud but works flawless, just want it a bit faster than 50
Love the informative videos! I watch and revert back to your videos all the time. So much good information for those that aren't just the weekend cruiser!
OMG finally I wanted a tech savvy guy in the industry to confirm my average General plans and he did. Done deed that will be my purchase.
Everybody I know that has a general has to work on them all the time
YES great narration for sure!!! Yes I saw the out come.....I own a KTM 200XC-W, Polaris Razor 1000XP Highlifter, and Skidoo MXZ X-RS 850. Snowmobiles have so much power and they weigh less than 500 lbs. Acceleration is just incredible....In a drag race they pretty much beat everything else because they hook up so well. Yes great video!
Got rid of my XX for a maverick sport xrc and it's a way better machine and I'm hoping you make springs for the 2.5 fox shocks...keep up the good work
Cory Lee just curious on what you didn’t like about your xx I went from a 900s which is a bit under your xrc but similar in comparison
For trails and light track usage I pick the honda talon x. For dunes, jumps, and big open areas I go x3. Rock crawling goes to the kawasaki. And constant breakdowns and poor build quality belong to polaris.
Based upon your credible knowledge and logical professionalism two items have come to my concern on my 19 X3 XRC. 1. To have your company tweak my suspension and 2. Get to modifying the single shear points. Looks like this ain't yer first rodeo!Thank you for the unbiased honesty. BTW.. saw you guys at KOH 2020. Nice display.
Thank you sir. I appreciate your input and tuning in. We will be doing a feed on the list of items to put on your X3 to make it reliable next week.
@@ShockTherapyllc Is / Are there any of the mods that need immediate attention? I really dislike being stranded. 🙃
Very thorough talk about side by side's and associated equipment. Extremely impressed!
I would love if you guys did a video discussing driving. Tire pressures and styles for different conditions as well as when and if you shift into 4wd and low range. Specifically for desert, dunes and maybe cinders. Thanks!
MIKE SCHULIK good idea. We will work on that one. Thank you.
I love the facts without opinion👍 Really knowledgeable. You didn't have to wonder or decide on anything,you already knew, awsome info!
You guys should do this again on 2022s. It’s a fun video to watch
Why wasn't the can am maverick sport included?? Withh 100 HP naturally aspirated and how light they are, I expected this to be a contender
I agree!
It's the riding that they do. It doesn't handle woops and high speed stuff. I do like the sport though!
The Mav Sport is the East Coast Special !
I was curious too. I live in the South and I'm about to get one for the mud and trails down here.
Just watched this thank you. Making me feel great in my pro XP choice!
Reno6.7 - they’re great cars
i’ve been thinking of getting a pro xp but i feel like they are gonna make a 72in model of it soon and i’d rather have that
Awesome video. I have a Can-Am X3 XRS Turbo. I don't know if you have created a video that identifies all of the weak places on the X3. Can you guys do a video that identifies all of the weak places on the X3 and your recommended replacement parts?
I just recently started thinking of 4 wheeling again, I used to ride with a club for a tiny while in 2003-2004, but I didn't have the money for the Jeep or Truck. I'd love to own a UTV, and I know for a fact it will never happen, but it's a nice daydream. I like the Polaris RZR XP 4 Turbo: 2 seater.
I’d love to have a video similar to this but just for 4 seaters. We just rented 2, rzr 1000 stock vehicles in Ouray Colorado and did Imogene pass, Yankee boy basin and Governor basin. We fell in love with the concept and it is so much better than exploring in our Toyota landcruiser. Family of 5, mom and dad are adrenaline junkies. Thanks! Just found your channel and you guys are awesome!!
What about the rzr xp 1000 without turbo? Or did I miss that part?
See vid at 14:02
Wow you guys are awesome . So much knowledge , very interesting .
I am an atv guy , but you had my attention the whole way because of the honesty . Great work and good luck where ever you go .
I've never heard of a UTV like these referred to as a car, but okay, why not?
My '18 Turbo XP is a beast for woods riding.....but that is all we do in East texas.....out West is a whole different world.......
Time to do this video again withe current sxs selections and updated vehicles 🎉
We'd like to, just tough to get every model in at the same time.
a wide PRO XP would be amazing. one thing you dont really talk about much is the creature features, storage and tech. its not all about the performance potential on hard core riding.
Agreed. I think those creature features are mostly personal. So I just stick with what I know. Not trying to leave it out though.
I would like to go take a tour and learn more about this fun activity I come from quads and sport bikes this is the 1st time I ever owned a side-by-side and I love the XP pro and this is coming from somebody that's Kawasaki kid all the time I always rode callus saki till his day I still represented
Engine reliability, longevity and overall abuse factor? Please help my brain decide....Great viedo and explanation of most of my concerns....Thank you for your time....
Honda Talon
I live 5 minutes from the oregon dunes. Never had a sxs before and decided to get a yxz because I was going to be dunning mostly. I was also not impressed with belt drives. Fast forward 10 months, love my yxz but my initial ideas were incorrect. On the weekends my friends go to the woods I sit it out because my tall geared yxz doesn't like tight, slow trail riding. On the dunes the polaris machines are everywhere I am and if not in front of me they are right behind me. Belts... seen one belt fail on a friends rzr in 10 months. He said his belt was bad and didn't expect it would last the weekend. Inside of 20 minutes he had the new one installed. My yxz suspension is too stiff, it does soak up big hits. Whoops it bucks and porpoises. Ive tried adjusting and it just needs progressive springs. Im not spending more money on it. Im buying a 2021 turbo S, bone stock the turbo s spanks my yxz. The suspension is better for my needs. I will be able to trail ride. I wasted a bunch of money being ignorant about my needs.
My next one will be based on whats available with turf mode. I had to buy a second set of non aggressive tires for my wolverine x2 xtr so we could use it around our property. That locked rear axle is fine for a trail toy but I really am not a fan overall in the grass. I don't like the tire scrubbing for every tight turn (you have to cut pretty wide to prevent it). My want list is a selectable front and rear locker. Also i really dislike the CVT. Lots of people said the wolverine was quite but I don't get that. Quite is when I run one of my hondas down the trail in a higher gear where it can lug around and sip gas. I hate having to run mid throttle just to back up or get going. Everything you want to do its always rev'd up. I knew it would be like that coming into the purchase but thought maybe I could live with it. Time will tell.
I’m surprised Can Am and Polaris we’re not mentioned in none turbo. Their suspension is awesome. They are the top 2 sold units.
I have a Honda Talon R and know the suspension is better on a Can-Am and Polaris. But I just like the CDC transmission cause I want to build a Rock crawler unit.
McDonalds sells the most burgers, doesnt mean there the best burgers.
Josh Owens I don’t eat McDonalds so I wouldn’t know.
@@stgraves260 You totally missed the point. Just because something is a "best seller" doesn't mean its the best.
stgraves260 Never had McDonald’s? Yeah that’s BS.
hey im in australia, we dont have the following here like you guys there, but i have myself the older commander. im looking to upgrade and watching your video is very helpful as there is no bias. thanks for your insite.
Make a video explaining what makes geometry terrible ie , talon & yxz . And what makes geometry great . Awsome video, most informative hands down, was close to pulling the trigger on a x3 rs rr , but sounds like it's a good idea to wait for the speed or just see what canams new transmission is going to do. Thanks !
Recommendations for an older 4 seat family vehicle that works for all terrain moderately well (rock crawling-Rubicon Trail, woods, Baja-just touring, dunes-ability to get to the tops). What mods to look for in a ride selling under$15k?
That was great, is there a current opinion from this well versed gent on all the rides? 2023
Your very knowledgeable...I’ve driven them all...and your not getting me out of my YXZ! Lol
That is due to your out of your mind status. contrarian...
Same here. My wife owns a x3 and I know the yxzs shortcomings. I still have more fun in my yxz
Thomas Blais 👍👍
M K Lol! I am a contrarian!
I’ve driven one out of all but the talon and the KRX, can’t get me out of my Turbo S!
Wow that was great info - but disappointing since I was going to by a yxz 2019 SESS as my first UTV - coming from a WR450F. I still plan to buy it but will have to seriously reconsider CANAM. Prefer the standard shifting of the YXZ. With a spare tire and trail riding on the east coast (no whoops) I think it will be fine for me. Now I need to figure out which CANAM might suit my riding which is Hatfield McCoy and Michigan sandy trails/ I see the comment from Ty below. I am sticking with my gut and bleeding blue most likely
So what did you get? I have a 2016 yxz1000r only ever needed tougher skid plated for rocks. We baja run it rock crawl it. Take it to dunes. Go to the snow and mountains. No major issues. Granted ive (Blown quite a few tires and bent stock tie rod)
Also surprised on the Polaris turbo you said was the most reliable. I see those thangs literary on fire all most every time I go riding.
stgraves260 a majority of the Polaris cars that caught on fire came from a lot of people with gas cans in the bed of the car over the motor. Yes, they did have some issues with some stuff and they corrected the problems. As far as the build quality of the car, the Polaris is put together more soundly than the can am
Shock Therapy llc I’ll take that under consideration because I haven’t owned a Polaris. I didn’t really pay attention to what they had in the bed of their SxS either. So that’s on me. I’ll start paying more attention to that. It’s just the fires seam to be happening under the dash and under the seat from what I can tell. Thank you.
Shock Therapy llc I’ll take that under consideration because I haven’t owned a Polaris. I didn’t really pay attention to what they had in the bed of their SxS either. So that’s on me. I’ll start paying more attention to that. It’s just the fires seam to be happening under the dash and under the seat from what I can tell. Thank you.
Subject suggestion. Krx has great suspension for a sort while after purchasing new. But just like most, the springs go to shit fast.
Jamey Arthurhultz that’s why we have spring kits for them, that tends to be the story with just about every UTV
I didn’t know you’re in Phoenix I will see you soon.
awesome vid. Looking into a smaller sxs. Maybe a trail or up to a 64"W at most. Was hoping to find some info there but given that you guys don't do much for woods/tight trails...I'll just appreciate the useful facts I got watching this, regardless. Thank you.
Just picked up a turbo s velocity and don’t regret it one bit. So built
Does the information/advice/opinions in this video still apply to 2023?
in our small town in the northwoods of Wisconsin the city now allows UTV and ATV owners to ride on city streets, as long as they are a speed limit of 35 or less. I wonder if driving a UTV would be more economical on gas and insurance if I just do errands on one of those? maybe great for getting thru the snow up here to?
Thanks for the good info .my wife said she's never seen me take notes before .😁
Yeah,no discrimination here lol. So the xp isn't included, but every other brand is? You say because its a trail machine but so isn't the others you mentioned 🤔
No shit, what a joke he decides to not include it.
I appreciate the honest input. Just ordered my 2020 RZR XP 4 Turbo S and will looking for more great advise from you and the Shock Therapy Team!
Just my opinion. I thank King Shocks are best for full size vehicles. On utv it would be ELKA stage 5 all the way.
Best 4 seater with a decent size box or dump box? Do a lot of trails and work around the house. Need best of power, work, and durability.
impressed by Justins knowledge and professionalism.
Lots of yami trans problems around here, surprised to hear you say it's a good trans
Here too. Weak clutch. Motorcycle gearbox.
YXZ transmission problem? We have four with high miles...no issue
I beat the hell out of my trans. I've launched it at 10.5 on dry asphalt in 4wd quite a few times. Still holding strong
@@thomasblais3612 launching isn't near as hard on them as landing on the throttle, or bouncing over rocks
@@ACatKrom I've landed on the rev limiter also. I don't do the rock bouncing thing though. I did blow a front cv doing doughnuts with the diff lock on though
That was an awesome video. I just got a new KRX.
I used to live in Ca. and duned Glamis all the time but Ca. sucks so bad I had to move to America, I now live in the Rockies in Co. so my riding is trails and rocks not sand. I would like to do some stuff to my KRX and hopefully you guys get into building products for that car.
What about can am maverick sport?
Interesting take on the Talon! I noticed that was an R, do you have the same opinions on the X as well? The sxsblog guys here in Michigan have been loving both of them
This was a very insightful video. I have watched the follow up regarding the benefits of and what makes the KRX suspension better than most out of the box (geometry). I am shopping for my first SxS, a significant purchase, and I am torn between Polaris, Can-Am and the Kawasaki. Each model I am drawn to is very attractive for certain features.
I like the low profile, power and sound from the X3. I like the accessories of the Polaris and their General model. I like the look of the KRX and your point that it has a very good suspension without need for much work. I like the plug and play capability for lighting, options that Polaris and Can-Am have... Kawasaki not so much. I like a roomier seat, a more reclined seating position and comfort in a unit that is fun as well as one that I will not have to mod out in order to make it reliable.
In my area, trails, wooded areas, hunting etc are part of recreation life as well as a small amount of utility. I'm also interested in something that I can put an complete enclosure on for Fall temps... would prefer that I could buy it from factory that way.
Thanks for the great information, I am nowhere close to deciding what to buy however. ;)
Sorry, I wish I could have known this was a race channel, a go fast , test suspension channel, brag and spend money to keep up with or surpass my buddies... I am into exploring, seeing the trail, seeing the scenery .etc. Have fun !
Love this dude. I’m early in the process of shopping so super helpful
Awesome job love your honesty about all the cars and you knowledge on the cars.
Drinking game: Take a shot every time he says car
Im going to be getting a KRX 1000. I want to trail ride and do some rock krawling
Can we get an updated version of this video? I am interested in your opinion about the Maverick sport max dps
I had two xp 1000s a d switched to the krx, its so much better than my rzrs!
Great video! Did the Fox Live Valve shocks help the Talon stiffness issues?
I think I'm hearing wait for the gen2 CanAm X3
Gen 2? Which would be when?
(and what?)
Great video. Here’s my suggestion for topics, you may have covered this. I’m new to this and haven’t purchased my first car yet. What is a great car that I can but and drive that is dependable, a joy to drive busy doesn’t need anything extra to get going? Mostly trails in Arkansas and Colorado.
Great video. I’ve had nothing but problems with Polaris. I’ll stick with Japanese brands from now on.
Thanks for the informative video..i was on the fence between YXZ and X3..Now I see that X3 more bang for your buck...
Are walker evans shocks any good?