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I love the cases where they are out of body and come back with verifiable details of what was happening nearby that they would have no way of knowing about. ♥️👏great video.
Tim, you asked about the age. My late Mom appeared to me as a young woman, vibrant and in almost inhuman, brimming state of happiness. I am fortunate to have experienced the profound ineffable light. It is an irresistible pull of love. I have also had my life flash before my eyes, I have had foreboding dreams, often with passed loved ones and I receive a distinct pattern of communication through a particular number with my Mom. The coincidences that happen are inexplicable. I wonder if there is a genetic trait to being a receiver. I sometimes wonder why my friends or others do not have these experiences and I do. Thank you for this episode. Dr Greyson and you were brilliant. ❤
I really do not know. My thought by seeing this interview is that the parameter of NDE is the love that you experience. I hear that this is not always the case, so respect to those.
Love it. NDEs needs way more attention than they get. It fundamentally challenges our modern conceptions about reality, in just the way the world needs right now. Materialism and the square scientism is over. We need to keep an open mind - that's what science is about.
Good evening Tim and Bruce Twenty years ago was the beginning of my Psychiatric Nursing career. I worked within an acute Psychiatric assessment inpatient ward for my first five years of my professional mental health nurse career. On reflection, best days of my working life, had so many wonderful and fascinating conversations and experiences with people admitted to our hospital ward. In short. Interesting shared conversation. Thank you. 💜
Summary of the video (Powered by NEX, an AI tool which summarizes TH-cam videos) Key Points： 1. [Key Point 1]: Dr. Bruce Greyson, a skeptic, now believes in near-death experiences after 50 years. 2. [Key Point 2]: Over 1,000 near-death experiences documented, many with corroborated details. 3. [Key Point 3]: Near-death experiences often involve seeing deceased loved ones, out-of-body perceptions. 4. [Key Point 4]: Near-death experiences common, not linked to mental illness. 5. [Key Point 5]: Studies show brain activity changes during NDEs, but cause unclear. 6. [Key Point 6]: NDEs can lead to profound, lasting effects, both positive and negative. Important Details: Here's the timeline 00:00:00 Introduction to Near-Death Experiences • Dr. Greyson shares a patient's near-death experience verification. • Surgeon's unique behavior verified by the patient's account. 00:02:03 Early Life and Scientific Background • Dr. Greyson raised in a scientific, non-religious household. • Emphasized studying unknown phenomena for impact. 00:03:46 Transition to Psychiatry • Dr. Greyson found psychiatry intriguing due to unanswered questions. • Fascinated by extreme conditions like schizophrenia and manic depression. 00:05:39 First Near-Death Experience • Dr. Greyson's patient described a near-death experience. • Patient accurately described events and a stain on the doctor's tie. 00:09:32 Introduction to Near-Death Experiences Research • Dr. Greyson's interest sparked by Raymond Moody's book. • Began collecting cases and validating them over 50 years. 00:12:32 Near-Death Experience Scale Development • Scale developed through collaboration with researchers and experiencers. • Includes 16 common features like changes in thought processes. 00:17:05 Identifying True Near-Death Experiences • False positives identified through the scale and behavior. • Focus on people with less intense mental illness. 00:19:19 Verifiable Near-Death Experiences • Examples of deceased individuals encountered by near-death experiencers. • Cases like Jack's with verifiable deceased individuals. 00:23:30 Skepticism and Materialist Explanations • Discussion on rational materialist skepticism and its limitations. • Lack of oxygen and drugs not explaining near-death experiences. 00:30:43 Corroborated Near-Death Experiences • Examples of near-death experiences corroborated by third parties. • Surgeon's unique behavior verified by the patient. 00:32:33 Cultural and Historical Context • Near-death experiences reported similarly across cultures. • Metaphors used to describe phenomena vary by culture. 00:39:24 Materialist Explanations and Scientific Challenges • Discussion on materialist explanations and their limitations. • Promisory materialism not considered scientific by Dr. Greyson. 00:43:00 Aftereffects of Near-Death Experiences • Increased altruism and feelings of connectedness post-NDE. • Reduced suicidal tendencies in those who have attempted suicide. 00:43:37 Children's Near-Death Experiences • Children report similar phenomena but lack elaborate life reviews. • Often use artwork to explain their experiences. 00:44:49 Future Research and Technological Tools • Discussion on using brain imaging and psychedelics to study NDEs. • Challenges in studying brain function during cardiac arrest. 00:47:56 Analyzing Near-Death Experiences Studies • Dr. Greyson critiques flawed studies on near-death experiences. • He highlights discrepancies between animal and human NDEs. 00:51:05 Theories and Practical Applications of NDEs • Discussion on the age of deceased relatives in NDEs. • Exploration of practical applications and physician attitudes towards NDEs. 00:52:17 Studying NDEs and Practical Considerations • Dr. Greyson suggests researching NDEs and their aftereffects. • He emphasizes the need for cross-cultural and neurophysiological studies. 00:57:21 Challenges in Simulating NDEs • Discussion on the difficulty of replicating NDEs in controlled settings. • Comparison of NDEs to psychedelic experiences and their limitations. 01:02:07 Personal Experiences and Philosophical Questions • Dr. Greyson shares a personal experience with Salvia divinorum. • Reflections on the mind-brain relationship and the nature of consciousness. 01:11:50 Career Challenges and Future Directions • Dr. Greyson discusses the career challenges in studying NDEs. • He suggests future research directions, including genomic studies of NDEs. 01:18:27 Controlled Studies and Methodological Challenges • Discussion on the difficulty of conducting controlled studies on NDEs. • The importance of large-scale studies and the challenges of replication. 01:23:02 Open Questions and Future Research • Dr. Greyson highlights open questions in the field of NDEs. • Reflections on the nature of time and consciousness in NDEs. 01:29:52 Influential Researchers and Concluding Thoughts • Mention of influential researchers in the field of NDEs. • Dr. Greyson's recommendations for further reading and understanding NDEs.
I've followed you for years, Tim. Glad to see you're getting around to explore the NDE phenomena. In 1975, my father reported an NDE while he was close to death in the hospital which later influenced my desire to read Raymond Moody's book back in 1976 and his sequel, among others. Dr. Greyson is interesting and informative, of course. I've seen many of his presentations. I appreciate you bringing it to those that follow you who might never have been exposed to this. I recognize your own interest in probing the effects of psychedelics as well. Wondering where your thinking is now after this interview?
It happened to me, and I've the 'bad' habit to tell all family, friends, and peoples on TH-cam that we, our soul, don't die. It's great news. I'm a climate activist, and life 'beyond earth' seems to be taboo to them. A dilemma. I share a LOT of your work, Dr. Greyson. And I appreciate your eagerness to tell. Thanks!
Dr Jeffrey Long is not "great", he is a wannabe-scientist. He even accepts anonymous NDE-account submitted to his website and uses them as his (imagined) "proof" of an afterlife. It's light years away from coming close to being scientific, let alone convincing.
DMT & NDEs - folks that have experienced both, I’d be all over that. I’ve experienced the tunnel, light and waiting room. All encompassing love and sense of familiarity as well
Studied this subject for years. Had a discussion with a gentleman 57 yrs ago who experienced it. Did not intellectually understand it then. Believed in it but what is the definitive proof is people blind at birth who experience NDEs can describe the landscape around them before entering the next relm in extreme detail.
I did intensive qigong meditation to finish my master's degree at U of Minnesota via qigong master Chunyi Lin. So I discovered that ghosts indeed are real and qigong master chunyi Lin shared without me asking him - that he does indeed heal ghosts regularly and that the ghosts come to him to get healed - they hover around him. I saw the yellow lights shaped as humans - float in from outside the room! They hovered around Chunyi Lin as he meditated in full lotus. If you read the free biography of Phra Acharn Mun - the most famous Buddhist meditation master of Thailand - he also explains healing ghosts regularly.
I tested my qigong full lotus meditation training against a strong dose of D.M.T. plant-based and also a strong dose of Salvia Divinorum. The Salvia TRIED to pull my spirit out of my body! It was stuck halfway out of my body but my 3rd eye electromagnetic force was stronger than the electrochemical power of the Salvia. So I laughed at the Salvia while I was "halfway" out of my body. I had friends who took ONE strong smoke of Salvia and they left their body and went into the floor - and completely freaked out, never to smoke it again. They had done strong psychedelics before.
Of course, humans all have a brain with the same functions. Medications tend to weaken the experience, why would that be the case unless it were a brain phenomenon?
@@mikaelmeyerhoffer5231 No that's not what I meant at all. I'm not talking about medicines "reducing fear", I'm saying that medicines tend to decrease the intensity of the experience (the white light, talking to deceased people, the tunnel, etc). The same goes for deathbed-visions. Why would this be the case unless it's a brain phenomenon? That strongly suggests that it's connected to the brain and not some ridiculous afterlife.
Tim, you should have done some reading on the material before the interview as you approached very skeptically. I've read many books over the years on this subject. Fascinating. See the documentary After Death, it is a must see.
Not gonna lie Tim, there was a significant portion of this podcast where i thought you had a giant painting of an E wok behind you, until you moved your head and i saw it that it’s a bear.
Another fascinating (and very well directed) conversation! I'm wondering, Tim: given your deep interest in the subjects discussed, along with your penchant for sci-fi and for writing, have you considered experimenting with fiction writing entertaining some of these concepts and ideas - to see where your "mind" takes you?
The near death experience is designed as a nudge to change a person's life direction. What people experience is going to be very personalised for them, as their guide has chosen the experience for a specific reason tailored to give them that new perspective, and therefore the option to choose a different path. A lot of related information can be found by reading into past life regression. From this perspective, the NDR experience of seeing past loved ones can be seen as meeting their soul. Essentially, we are all an individualised aspect of the origin with our own personalised sentience incarnating here on earth as a soul to learn experience and evolve. So leaving the body during an NDR for them to say hello sounds about right. I'd recommend the podcast by Dolores cannon or her convoluted universe books. In Michael Newton's book journey of souls he documented his discovery of past life regression and constantly verified the information received against historical records where possible. Also, those who experienced an NDR could do a past life regression and have the person ask as their guide on why they were shown the NDR experience
I’ve looked at several hundred NDE accounts at least, and you can finish their sentences before they tell you what they were told. It’s all about love. Religion doesn’t matter.
This is fascinating but I wonder (and maybe I missed something here) how is it that there have been thousands of clinical cases of NDE's and they have never been able to measure the brain matter or measure the brain itself for damage? It seems that if there were brain damage (in specific regions) then this would be an extremely promising avenue of understanding the phenomena. And it may have huge implications as to whether these experiences are being created by the brain as opposed to some other non-material avenue. I would like to see a study that measures the brain matter itself in those who have NDE's even pre-post or during would be really useful. I wonder what we will discover when more people have brain computer interfaces and undergo an NDE...
They’ve done a lot of studies over the years to determine who is more likely to have an NDE than who isn’t, and it’s pretty universal. Normal, everyday people with no brain dysfunction have NDEs. I think the only statistically significant predictor was age and a lack of drugs used during resuscitation and recovery (like morphine, etc.). Those two factors are thought to be predictors of if you will remember the experience after recovery. For example, Stephanie Arnold was able to remember her NDE (with verified OBE perceptual details) after regression therapy. It could be many people have the experience, but don’t remember it after recovery.
Is this the sixth sense, like the other five being interpreted by the brain? The difference being the sixth sense doesn’t have an organ or body part to be connected with?
question! can someone see relatives he hasnt met in life? because if no, that means people who have been for example abandoned by parents when they were little, can never see their relatives at all because they have never seen them?
Hi - There have been cases where some NDErs have met relatives they didn’t know were relatives at the time, but then recognized them from photos after the event. Eben Alexander, Vinny Tolman, and one anonymous incident where they met their birth Father who they had never met. Also there are a few with folks meeting deceased brothers or sisters that had died before they were born.
@@brebeaa thanks, i didnt know that! its good that its that way, because i was thinking in the extreme case scenario a person could simply have no one to see when dead, while others would have many. also 100-200 years ago families were much bigger, so people from then would see many more than now. this explains it
My hunch the OBE and ESP is real for me in years past. My life changing does not give time for the many hours of development o put myself through to be successful. It's exercises that are not talked or written about which may indicate a change of time. Turning of the zodiac affirming the mental age. The opposite of psychic times. The OBE has turned the page to NDE.
Thee single most important foundation of NDE studies, are those cases whereas the experiencer is proclaimed deaceased, and the body is no where near verified occurrences, conversations, etc... In these particular cases, there is no "sane, materialist (in the scientific sense) or physical world logic" that can explain said verified accounts of knowledge... These, specifically display consciousness beyond the physical body... All NDE research can move forward from these, as no one can claim the body's facilities were able to record such accounts in any as of yet unknown physical ways...
One has to question specifically WHY we are here, and then understand that we didn't create ourselves. In which case how are we to know unless intuition tells us? I will tell you that many people trying hallucinagenics suddenly get this epiohany, that "it all makes sense!". You see life from a more...macro level (like a wide angle lens pulling outward). You see the patterns of all the emotions, pain and joy and interaction with other living creatures and humans... And you realize that everything is EXACTLY as it should be. I also had this epiphany myself many years ago. And while it's hard to maintain the point of view, I will always remember it. Many say we are a perfect/omniscient being that split itself across time and space. Think about why that would happen... If a being knows and perceives all it has nothing to experience it simply...is. If it wishes to experience anything beyond such a seeming...pointless existence, it would split itself apart and each "individual" being ignorant, yearning, curious, imperfect...would be able to perceive the universe (itself) for the first time!
Hi - Depersonalization is feeling disconnected from the self, having the sensation of floating, persistent forgetfulness and memory issues, and feelings of unreality. An OBE is a sensory experience of leaving the body. According to NDErs, it’s a lucid, clear experience in which they witness events from above, oftentimes with corroborative details.
@@brebeaa thanks for your reply. I was just wondering because twice in my life I have had the view of being above my body and watching myself as I did what I was doing. These were not traumatic events. I do have a chronic mental illness. I’ve heard of people leaving their bodies and watching from above as they endured traumatic events. My experiences were not born from trauma in those moments though.
A fascinating & well-presented podcast. Thanks for this. I wonder about NDE-like experiences & if there are any studies on it. I can explain by a personal example. Many years ago I was in a car wreck that I don’t think would have caused a fatality. I saw the car that would t-bone mine coming, didn’t feel the impact nor see it happening from outside my body. I felt myself slowly spinning in a slow dance with an unseen partner then gently moving forward for a very warm & tender embrace. What actually happened was my car spinning around quickly from the impact and me going through the windshield on the passenger side of the car & bouncing back to the gear shift up a place where the sun don’t shine. 😊. No injuries aside from cons iderable bruising on my butt. Also, theCarpeting glued to the floorboards was ripped up from bracing my feet, yet it was all experienced as a slow dance and embrace. What the heck was that? I didn’t leave my body, but both mind and body had a lovely experience. As to telepathic communication, yep, got that covered with my now-adult daughter. We don’t know how, why, or when it will happen, and it’s never anything of great significance. Most recently I sent her a text of a cat litter cabinet I thought was a unique piece of furniture. She shot back a text of the unique cat litter furniture she bought from a different retailer a few days earlier. Lots of little things like that have happened between us since she was a little kid. Now, if we could just nail the lotto numbers…😊
I have had depersonalization since my late teens, I'm now in my mid 40's. I've learned to live with it. The difference is that you feel as if the mind and body are detached and not one unit. You are not observing yourself from above or behind like with OBEs, you're only watching your body parts normally but feel as if they do not belong to you, like you are watching someone elses body. The same goes for when you are watching yourself in the mirror, you know logically that it's you but you can't identify with the reflection in the mirror and it's not a pleasant feeling. There is a huge difference between OBEs and depersonalization. With depersonalization you never (at least I never have) feel as if you are floating up or away from your body and watching you from an external point , it's just the feeling of being a stranger in your own skin kind of feeling. Like you're "borrowing" or is a guest in another persons body. The funny thing is the feeling of detachment is totally gone in dreams for example. The same goes with derealization which is the same type of phenomenon but revolves around the outside world and environment in relation to yourself. It's considered a symtom of dissociation, and you are aware, always, that it's a subjective feeling, NOT the objective reality and that's what's so frightening about it especially when it's new to you. The symtom, for me, often (but not always) starts with some sort of deja-vu type feeling.
@@Macceee thank you for this clarification. This makes the definitions make sense. I am still puzzled over what I experienced though. I was clearly above my body and watching as if it was someone else. The first memory has stayed with me for 40 years as it was so different. I wasn’t scared at all and as I’ve said in previous comment, it wasn’t a traumatic event. I was at junior high school and walking down the hall.
Anesthesia was not fully settled in, that’s how he could have seen it. Has happened to many patients, and most surgeons point with elbows it’s very common while w sterile hands
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Good to see Bruce Greyson’s villain arc is developing nicely.
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I love the cases where they are out of body and come back with verifiable details of what was happening nearby that they would have no way of knowing about. ♥️👏great video.
Great guest. Very interesting content. Thanks brother!
Tim, you asked about the age. My late Mom appeared to me as a young woman, vibrant and in almost inhuman, brimming state of happiness. I am fortunate to have experienced the profound ineffable light. It is an irresistible pull of love. I have also had my life flash before my eyes, I have had foreboding dreams, often with passed loved ones and I receive a distinct pattern of communication through a particular number with my Mom. The coincidences that happen are inexplicable. I wonder if there is a genetic trait to being a receiver. I sometimes wonder why my friends or others do not have these experiences and I do. Thank you for this episode. Dr Greyson and you were brilliant. ❤
I really do not know. My thought by seeing this interview is that the parameter of NDE is the love that you experience. I hear that this is not always the case, so respect to those.
@@elisabethdevyt8256 well, the parts I did not tell you is that part of the news was not always desirable
Love it. NDEs needs way more attention than they get. It fundamentally challenges our modern conceptions about reality, in just the way the world needs right now. Materialism and the square scientism is over. We need to keep an open mind - that's what science is about.
Good evening Tim and Bruce
Twenty years ago was the beginning of my Psychiatric Nursing career. I worked within an acute Psychiatric assessment inpatient ward for my first five years of my professional mental health nurse career. On reflection, best days of my working life, had so many wonderful and fascinating conversations and experiences with people admitted to our hospital ward. In short.
Interesting shared conversation.
Thank you.
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Summary of the video (Powered by NEX, an AI tool which summarizes TH-cam videos)
Key Points：
1. [Key Point 1]: Dr. Bruce Greyson, a skeptic, now believes in near-death experiences after 50 years.
2. [Key Point 2]: Over 1,000 near-death experiences documented, many with corroborated details.
3. [Key Point 3]: Near-death experiences often involve seeing deceased loved ones, out-of-body perceptions.
4. [Key Point 4]: Near-death experiences common, not linked to mental illness.
5. [Key Point 5]: Studies show brain activity changes during NDEs, but cause unclear.
6. [Key Point 6]: NDEs can lead to profound, lasting effects, both positive and negative.
Important Details:
Here's the timeline
00:00:00 Introduction to Near-Death Experiences
• Dr. Greyson shares a patient's near-death experience verification.
• Surgeon's unique behavior verified by the patient's account.
00:02:03 Early Life and Scientific Background
• Dr. Greyson raised in a scientific, non-religious household.
• Emphasized studying unknown phenomena for impact.
00:03:46 Transition to Psychiatry
• Dr. Greyson found psychiatry intriguing due to unanswered questions.
• Fascinated by extreme conditions like schizophrenia and manic depression.
00:05:39 First Near-Death Experience
• Dr. Greyson's patient described a near-death experience.
• Patient accurately described events and a stain on the doctor's tie.
00:09:32 Introduction to Near-Death Experiences Research
• Dr. Greyson's interest sparked by Raymond Moody's book.
• Began collecting cases and validating them over 50 years.
00:12:32 Near-Death Experience Scale Development
• Scale developed through collaboration with researchers and experiencers.
• Includes 16 common features like changes in thought processes.
00:17:05 Identifying True Near-Death Experiences
• False positives identified through the scale and behavior.
• Focus on people with less intense mental illness.
00:19:19 Verifiable Near-Death Experiences
• Examples of deceased individuals encountered by near-death experiencers.
• Cases like Jack's with verifiable deceased individuals.
00:23:30 Skepticism and Materialist Explanations
• Discussion on rational materialist skepticism and its limitations.
• Lack of oxygen and drugs not explaining near-death experiences.
00:30:43 Corroborated Near-Death Experiences
• Examples of near-death experiences corroborated by third parties.
• Surgeon's unique behavior verified by the patient.
00:32:33 Cultural and Historical Context
• Near-death experiences reported similarly across cultures.
• Metaphors used to describe phenomena vary by culture.
00:39:24 Materialist Explanations and Scientific Challenges
• Discussion on materialist explanations and their limitations.
• Promisory materialism not considered scientific by Dr. Greyson.
00:43:00 Aftereffects of Near-Death Experiences
• Increased altruism and feelings of connectedness post-NDE.
• Reduced suicidal tendencies in those who have attempted suicide.
00:43:37 Children's Near-Death Experiences
• Children report similar phenomena but lack elaborate life reviews.
• Often use artwork to explain their experiences.
00:44:49 Future Research and Technological Tools
• Discussion on using brain imaging and psychedelics to study NDEs.
• Challenges in studying brain function during cardiac arrest.
00:47:56 Analyzing Near-Death Experiences Studies
• Dr. Greyson critiques flawed studies on near-death experiences.
• He highlights discrepancies between animal and human NDEs.
00:51:05 Theories and Practical Applications of NDEs
• Discussion on the age of deceased relatives in NDEs.
• Exploration of practical applications and physician attitudes towards NDEs.
00:52:17 Studying NDEs and Practical Considerations
• Dr. Greyson suggests researching NDEs and their aftereffects.
• He emphasizes the need for cross-cultural and neurophysiological studies.
00:57:21 Challenges in Simulating NDEs
• Discussion on the difficulty of replicating NDEs in controlled settings.
• Comparison of NDEs to psychedelic experiences and their limitations.
01:02:07 Personal Experiences and Philosophical Questions
• Dr. Greyson shares a personal experience with Salvia divinorum.
• Reflections on the mind-brain relationship and the nature of consciousness.
01:11:50 Career Challenges and Future Directions
• Dr. Greyson discusses the career challenges in studying NDEs.
• He suggests future research directions, including genomic studies of NDEs.
01:18:27 Controlled Studies and Methodological Challenges
• Discussion on the difficulty of conducting controlled studies on NDEs.
• The importance of large-scale studies and the challenges of replication.
01:23:02 Open Questions and Future Research
• Dr. Greyson highlights open questions in the field of NDEs.
• Reflections on the nature of time and consciousness in NDEs.
01:29:52 Influential Researchers and Concluding Thoughts
• Mention of influential researchers in the field of NDEs.
• Dr. Greyson's recommendations for further reading and understanding NDEs.
I've followed you for years, Tim. Glad to see you're getting around to explore the NDE phenomena. In 1975, my father reported an NDE while he was close to death in the hospital which later influenced my desire to read Raymond Moody's book back in 1976 and his sequel, among others. Dr. Greyson is interesting and informative, of course. I've seen many of his presentations. I appreciate you bringing it to those that follow you who might never have been exposed to this. I recognize your own interest in probing the effects of psychedelics as well. Wondering where your thinking is now after this interview?
It happened to me, and I've the 'bad' habit to tell all family, friends, and peoples on TH-cam that we, our soul, don't die. It's great news. I'm a climate activist, and life 'beyond earth' seems to be taboo to them. A dilemma. I share a LOT of your work, Dr. Greyson. And I appreciate your eagerness to tell. Thanks!
Wonderful and what a voice Dr Greyson has, too
He is very articulate! 😊
@@towerofresonance4877 yes, and so warm and 'comforting'🙂
Really enjoyed this thanks Tom 👏
“Thank you Tom”
As someone who has had an NDE I found this very helpful, as I always wonder what other people go through
Put together your background and your experience, and maybe you can get on a channel! Or channels!
This is WILD
Dr. Bruce ❤
Love this ❤
Amazing stuff
Over an hour in and you have not let him discuss his main interest: "How are the subjects' lives changed afterward?" Listen, listen, then talk!
Too much talk from the interviewer, for me.
Interesting topic, Tom!
Thank you for this interview!
Dr Jeffrey long is another great. researcher.and Dr Raymond moody that discusses shared death experiences that blows this away
Dr Jeffrey Long is not "great", he is a wannabe-scientist. He even accepts anonymous NDE-account submitted to his website and uses them as his (imagined) "proof" of an afterlife. It's light years away from coming close to being scientific, let alone convincing.
Life between lives is a great book and Michael Newton had many videos on this topic
Very cool, thank you Tim!
DMT & NDEs - folks that have experienced both, I’d be all over that. I’ve experienced the tunnel, light and waiting room. All encompassing love and sense of familiarity as well
Like Strasmann book!!!
I’ve had both and I have also had many foretelling dreams.
Studied this subject for years. Had a discussion with a gentleman 57 yrs ago who experienced it. Did not intellectually understand it then.
Believed in it but what is the definitive proof is people blind at birth who experience NDEs can describe the landscape around them before entering the next relm in extreme detail.
..THANK YOU SOO MUCH TIM 🙂🙂
I did intensive qigong meditation to finish my master's degree at U of Minnesota via qigong master Chunyi Lin. So I discovered that ghosts indeed are real and qigong master chunyi Lin shared without me asking him - that he does indeed heal ghosts regularly and that the ghosts come to him to get healed - they hover around him. I saw the yellow lights shaped as humans - float in from outside the room! They hovered around Chunyi Lin as he meditated in full lotus. If you read the free biography of Phra Acharn Mun - the most famous Buddhist meditation master of Thailand - he also explains healing ghosts regularly.
Thank you both!❤
I tested my qigong full lotus meditation training against a strong dose of D.M.T. plant-based and also a strong dose of Salvia Divinorum. The Salvia TRIED to pull my spirit out of my body! It was stuck halfway out of my body but my 3rd eye electromagnetic force was stronger than the electrochemical power of the Salvia. So I laughed at the Salvia while I was "halfway" out of my body. I had friends who took ONE strong smoke of Salvia and they left their body and went into the floor - and completely freaked out, never to smoke it again. They had done strong psychedelics before.
The more nde's you read the more plausible they become because there are so many similarities.
True, but also so many contradictions.
After watching hundred of these, I'm left confused
Of course, humans all have a brain with the same functions.
Medications tend to weaken the experience, why would that be the case unless it were a brain phenomenon?
Is it bound to fear of death. I mean if medication lessens the feeling of fear.
@@mikaelmeyerhoffer5231 No that's not what I meant at all. I'm not talking about medicines "reducing fear", I'm saying that medicines tend to decrease the intensity of the experience (the white light, talking to deceased people, the tunnel, etc). The same goes for deathbed-visions. Why would this be the case unless it's a brain phenomenon? That strongly suggests that it's connected to the brain and not some ridiculous afterlife.
Tim, you should have done some reading on the material before the interview as you approached very skeptically. I've read many books over the years on this subject. Fascinating. See the documentary After Death, it is a must see.
You are back dude!
Thanks!!
Not gonna lie Tim, there was a significant portion of this podcast where i thought you had a giant painting of an E wok behind you, until you moved your head and i saw it that it’s a bear.
Another fascinating (and very well directed) conversation! I'm wondering, Tim: given your deep interest in the subjects discussed, along with your penchant for sci-fi and for writing, have you considered experimenting with fiction writing entertaining some of these concepts and ideas - to see where your "mind" takes you?
A chronic NDE experiencer needs to be found and enlisted!
The near death experience is designed as a nudge to change a person's life direction. What people experience is going to be very personalised for them, as their guide has chosen the experience for a specific reason tailored to give them that new perspective, and therefore the option to choose a different path.
A lot of related information can be found by reading into past life regression. From this perspective, the NDR experience of seeing past loved ones can be seen as meeting their soul. Essentially, we are all an individualised aspect of the origin with our own personalised sentience incarnating here on earth as a soul to learn experience and evolve. So leaving the body during an NDR for them to say hello sounds about right.
I'd recommend the podcast by Dolores cannon or her convoluted universe books. In Michael Newton's book journey of souls he documented his discovery of past life regression and constantly verified the information received against historical records where possible. Also, those who experienced an NDR could do a past life regression and have the person ask as their guide on why they were shown the NDR experience
Liked it tim 🎉
Wow. I never knew about the intern Raymond Moody. I have listened to Doctor Greyson before. Him and Raymond Moody are a gift to atheists
I’ve looked at several hundred NDE accounts at least, and you can finish their sentences before they tell you what they were told. It’s all about love. Religion doesn’t matter.
Good job!!!
This is fascinating but I wonder (and maybe I missed something here) how is it that there have been thousands of clinical cases of NDE's and they have never been able to measure the brain matter or measure the brain itself for damage? It seems that if there were brain damage (in specific regions) then this would be an extremely promising avenue of understanding the phenomena. And it may have huge implications as to whether these experiences are being created by the brain as opposed to some other non-material avenue. I would like to see a study that measures the brain matter itself in those who have NDE's even pre-post or during would be really useful.
I wonder what we will discover when more people have brain computer interfaces and undergo an NDE...
They’ve done a lot of studies over the years to determine who is more likely to have an NDE than who isn’t, and it’s pretty universal. Normal, everyday people with no brain dysfunction have NDEs. I think the only statistically significant predictor was age and a lack of drugs used during resuscitation and recovery (like morphine, etc.). Those two factors are thought to be predictors of if you will remember the experience after recovery. For example, Stephanie Arnold was able to remember her NDE (with verified OBE perceptual details) after regression therapy. It could be many people have the experience, but don’t remember it after recovery.
@@brebeaa That is fascinating if true.
Love it, algoboost
I love Tom Ferriss
Here for the Tom comments
Is this the sixth sense, like the other five being interpreted by the brain? The difference being the sixth sense doesn’t have an organ or body part to be connected with?
question! can someone see relatives he hasnt met in life? because if no, that means people who have been for example abandoned by parents when they were little, can never see their relatives at all because they have never seen them?
I think your soul would know
@@christmasneverends5423 wholesome answer, i like it! makes sense too
Hi - There have been cases where some NDErs have met relatives they didn’t know were relatives at the time, but then recognized them from photos after the event. Eben Alexander, Vinny Tolman, and one anonymous incident where they met their birth Father who they had never met. Also there are a few with folks meeting deceased brothers or sisters that had died before they were born.
@@brebeaa thanks, i didnt know that! its good that its that way, because i was thinking in the extreme case scenario a person could simply have no one to see when dead, while others would have many. also 100-200 years ago families were much bigger, so people from then would see many more than now. this explains it
My hunch the OBE and ESP is real for me in years past. My life changing does not give time for the many hours of development o put myself through to be successful.
It's exercises that are not talked or written about which may indicate a change of time. Turning of the zodiac affirming the mental age. The opposite of psychic times. The OBE has turned the page to NDE.
Thee single most important foundation of NDE studies, are those cases whereas the experiencer is proclaimed deaceased, and the body is no where near verified occurrences, conversations, etc... In these particular cases, there is no "sane, materialist (in the scientific sense) or physical world logic" that can explain said verified accounts of knowledge... These, specifically display consciousness beyond the physical body... All NDE research can move forward from these, as no one can claim the body's facilities were able to record such accounts in any as of yet unknown physical ways...
Why is 'Tom' laughing and then hiding it?
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He hasn't studied the Hameroff-Penrose microtubule research? That explains the mind-brain interaction
So much of life is suffering, then over. It's over before it starts. We all are just waiting to die. What are we here for? We are We going?
One has to question specifically WHY we are here, and then understand that we didn't create ourselves. In which case how are we to know unless intuition tells us?
I will tell you that many people trying hallucinagenics suddenly get this epiohany, that "it all makes sense!". You see life from a more...macro level (like a wide angle lens pulling outward). You see the patterns of all the emotions, pain and joy and interaction with other living creatures and humans...
And you realize that everything is EXACTLY as it should be.
I also had this epiphany myself many years ago. And while it's hard to maintain the point of view, I will always remember it.
Many say we are a perfect/omniscient being that split itself across time and space. Think about why that would happen...
If a being knows and perceives all it has nothing to experience it simply...is.
If it wishes to experience anything beyond such a seeming...pointless existence, it would split itself apart and each "individual" being ignorant, yearning, curious, imperfect...would be able to perceive the universe (itself) for the first time!
Just two farmers Farming
I know these researchers mean well... But c'mon bro. There is no heaven. Life isn't a magic show.
What is the difference between OBEs and depersonalization?
Hi - Depersonalization is feeling disconnected from the self, having the sensation of floating, persistent forgetfulness and memory issues, and feelings of unreality. An OBE is a sensory experience of leaving the body. According to NDErs, it’s a lucid, clear experience in which they witness events from above, oftentimes with corroborative details.
@@brebeaa thanks for your reply. I was just wondering because twice in my life I have had the view of being above my body and watching myself as I did what I was doing. These were not traumatic events. I do have a chronic mental illness. I’ve heard of people leaving their bodies and watching from above as they endured traumatic events. My experiences were not born from trauma in those moments though.
A fascinating & well-presented podcast. Thanks for this. I wonder about NDE-like experiences & if there are any studies on it. I can explain by a personal example. Many years ago I was in a car wreck that I don’t think would have caused a fatality. I saw the car that would t-bone mine coming, didn’t feel the impact nor see it happening from outside my body. I felt myself slowly spinning in a slow dance with an unseen partner then gently moving forward for a very warm & tender embrace. What actually happened was my car spinning around quickly from the impact and me going through the windshield on the passenger side of the car & bouncing back to the gear shift up a place where the sun don’t shine. 😊. No injuries aside from cons iderable bruising on my butt. Also, theCarpeting glued to the floorboards was ripped up from bracing my feet, yet it was all experienced as a slow dance and embrace. What the heck was that? I didn’t leave my body, but both mind and body had a lovely experience.
As to telepathic communication, yep, got that covered with my now-adult daughter. We don’t know how, why, or when it will happen, and it’s never anything of great significance. Most recently I sent her a text of a cat litter cabinet I thought was a unique piece of furniture. She shot back a text of the unique cat litter furniture she bought from a different retailer a few days earlier. Lots of little things like that have happened between us since she was a little kid. Now, if we could just nail the lotto numbers…😊
I have had depersonalization since my late teens, I'm now in my mid 40's. I've learned to live with it. The difference is that you feel as if the mind and body are detached and not one unit. You are not observing yourself from above or behind like with OBEs, you're only watching your body parts normally but feel as if they do not belong to you, like you are watching someone elses body. The same goes for when you are watching yourself in the mirror, you know logically that it's you but you can't identify with the reflection in the mirror and it's not a pleasant feeling. There is a huge difference between OBEs and depersonalization. With depersonalization you never (at least I never have) feel as if you are floating up or away from your body and watching you from an external point , it's just the feeling of being a stranger in your own skin kind of feeling. Like you're "borrowing" or is a guest in another persons body. The funny thing is the feeling of detachment is totally gone in dreams for example.
The same goes with derealization which is the same type of phenomenon but revolves around the outside world and environment in relation to yourself. It's considered a symtom of dissociation, and you are aware, always, that it's a subjective feeling, NOT the objective reality and that's what's so frightening about it especially when it's new to you. The symtom, for me, often (but not always) starts with some sort of deja-vu type feeling.
@@Macceee thank you for this clarification. This makes the definitions make sense. I am still puzzled over what I experienced though. I was clearly above my body and watching as if it was someone else. The first memory has stayed with me for 40 years as it was so different. I wasn’t scared at all and as I’ve said in previous comment, it wasn’t a traumatic event. I was at junior high school and walking down the hall.
Anesthesia was not fully settled in, that’s how he could have seen it. Has happened to many patients, and most surgeons point with elbows it’s very common while w sterile hands
Please answer why people blind at birth who have NDE can describe the events occuring around them?
This is possible but there are thousands of reported cases of NDEs, all with many similarities between them.