BUT WHAT WAS IN SMILING JACK'S LOCKER?! YOU NEVER OPENED IT! After you discussed the Terrible Shotgun, you immediately left the marketplace and headed for the strip club.
Preach. I'm currently working on a Fallout tabletop RPG. I'm currently typing out the actual guides and manuals at the moment and hearing Oxhorn talk about Fallout's lore is both inspiring as well as making me go "D'oh! I forgot that one thing!". I've been binging for the past few hours too.
Smiling Jack is a reference to Vampire the Masquerade: Bloodlines, which features a character also called Smiling Jack who warns the Player to watch out for people wielding shotguns.
yes but, that poor super mutant just wanted his teddy bear back XD I'm joking but I liketo think that teddy cage was the super mutant going. "Okay teddy bear gaurd our train while I bring back human to eat." XD Teddy freaks out and he's like "I sense a disturbance teddy bear needs me " lol (hope ya enjoyed that bs joke wish I could makea comic out of it lol)
I just thought it was a fun little headcanon. Lol you can always just toss your companion and let it take care of the mutant. Or just sneak around it all together XD
“This good karma character,” a quote from Oxhorn “Now he has outlived his usefulness so we should destroy this super mutant.” Also Oxhorn I enjoy some good irony
Raiders listening to Enclave radio makes more sense then if they were to listen to 3Dog. He actively tells people where raiders have been seen and to avoid them
Well, Three Dog would actually make tactical sense, if I was a raider. If I hear him telling people about hideouts, specifically my hideout, I’d probably know to change my strategy to accommodate the people knowing this information, and keep on raiding. But then again, most Raiders wouldn’t want to know that they’ve been found out, they aren’t exactly bright.
When you started walking towards the train cars then the teddy bear, I was like, "OMG PTSD ALL OVER AGAIN" LOL I was 12 when the game first came out and this was my 1st Behemoth I had run into.
Alyx Lust__Exe memories from fallout were great. Wish we could have joined the enclave though, they were my favorite faction. Fallout 3 is my second favorite fallout, right in front of new vegas and right before 2
When the game came out I watched my brother play it. Told him to investigate the swan pile in the middle of the pond. Never again. First time seeing a behemoth. We were both screaming as he took it down
Maybe they're disliking the horrible discovery in the video? Like its a knee jerk reaction to dislike something you find horrifying even if the video itself is excellent? Just my theory
"As you could see, the wild teddy bear is very territorial of their shopping cart cages. Watch as the Predator also know as Oxhorn startles it. When startled, teddys bears like this one calls upon their slaves, the mighty behemoth. But today, Oxhorn got away with the bear and killed the bear's slave. What will happen to this bear? Tune in next time for another Wastland wildlife episode."
I love "The Terrible Shotgun" One of my favorites in FO3. I always pick it up early on. Also the Lincolns Repeater. Those are 2 best guns in the game imo
Dear Oxhorn, I am a huge fallout fan and a total lore junkie and i have just recently discovered your channel and i just wanted you to know as far as i'm concerned you provide the the best and most consistent fallout content on TH-cam today BY FAR.
It's funny, I enjoy these videos so much, and he's so good I guess I lazily expect everything to be perfect. So then it really irritates me when he gets words wrong, I think he's so good it feels more like he's doing it on purpose, just to be snobby or something.
Vault tec had predicted bottle caps will be currency in the wasteland I don’t know how but in the special videos from fallout 4 you can see what I mean
Nice tactical thinking Ox. :) As to the kids toys, three possibilities. a) the prostitutes were kids when they were brought there and were used up and executed and the slavers hadn't found suitable replacements yet. b) the prostitutes had kids. Think about it, do you ever run into contraceptives in the wasteland? Condoms? As with per-contraceptive brothels kids are a cost of doing business. So those toys could have belonged to the prostitute's kids and the brats played in mommy's "work" area around the poles in between shows. c) it was a fetish thing. Like some guys who get off on school girls even if the "girl" in question got out of school 10 years ago. If I would hazard a guess, I'd say all the above at one time or another. This is the wasteland and a raider den. May they all be devoured by deathclaws.
Durnak the Zero That has nothing to do with the reason why they are morally wrong. You are basically concluding that killing raiders slowly is the same as killing settlers slowly.
I second that. I believe Fallout just didn't want to put dildos and butt plugs, so they put other types of "toys" as like placeholders. Hard to know what they do, because sometimes FO has things legit, and other times not. An example would be Teddy Bears in place of child skeletons. Many baby carriages or places baby skeletons would be have teddy bears in their place. That was actually confirmed. However, sometimes they are just meant to be regular teddy bears or easter eggs. You never truly know.
I definitely think the prospect of children being there is just an issue with the lack of effective birth control post-war. Its likely they were just the kids of the prostitutes who were then locked up to stop them from escaping... What happened to them however is a question i dont have an answer for.
I theorized it could also be maybe they were kidnapped at a young age, and with no one to really teach them to grow up, they just stayed in the childish mindset? If you have read World War Z, there is a a section about a girl who is about 19 with the mind of a 8 year old because she was on her own for the formative years. That could possibly be it? I theorized it could also be maybe they were kidnapped at a young age, and with no one to really teach them to grow up, they just stayed in the childish mindset? If you have read World War Z, there is a a section about a girl who is about 19 with the mind of a 8 year old because she was on her own for the formative years. That could possibly be it?
Three dog is hands down the greatest radio show host.....EVER! not just in fallout! Hey children, are you hungry for some 200 year old Salisbury steak, or are you hungry for some news? I'm guessin' news. Haha. Here it is.
Ox, I personally believe post war the use of proper birth control fell out of practice. Raider children were being raised there (even having their own room) after being born to the stripper/prostitutes. The amateur surgery room above possibly being a place where the mothers deliver before they go back to working. It may even be possible the children are sold as slaves as the bring a better price as shown at Shady Sands.
I mean, it does make a lot of sense. After all, if the Raiders aren't procreating, how in the hell are their so many Raider gangs around? Sure, a few of them were probably folks that lost everything and had no choice, but that doesn't explain the sheer number of bloodthirsty psychopaths out there. Going from a down-on-his-luck survivor to mass-murdering raider doesn't happen over night. (As you can tell from some of the Raider Dialogue throughout the various games, with some of them saying things like "I hope they don't struggle...I hate it when they struggle..." in a despondent tone, as compared to most Raiders vicious dialogue.) I think it makes a lot of sense that Raider Children are out there, being raised on violence and degeneracy since the day they were born. The small kindnesses like the toys and teddy bears would reinforce their loyalty to the gang from a very young age. The only kindness they ever experience is from the prostitutes and such, so obviously they would grow up particularly loyal to them. Combine the debauchery of the Raider Lifestyle with a fierce dependency on the gang, and you've got some home-grown psychopaths in the making, ready to kill and die for their Gang Boss. The kids that show 'promise', aka a strong sense of loyalty and complete lack of empathy, are folded into the ranks. The kids that don't are either sold to slavers, forced into prostitution like their parents, or are just outright killed and fed to the Behemoth. (Or to the other kids...)
@@dwarfbunni Mom still has to entertain, and they probably don't have a dedicated babysitter. "Sit here and behave, little baby raider, while Mommy dances. Here's a toy car to play with."
As fucked as that it's, it's better than raiders using kids for various things I wish I didn't know could be done to humans. Thanks for saving my mind from what Ox predicted
I’m really glad that raiders got more personality in fo4, I loved hearing their stories (like Grenade guy) and hearing about their stories (Tom/red Tourette, zeller, Jarod, wire, slag etc)
As much as I love New Vegas, the fiends were laughably one dimensional. In 3 they at least said funny shit instead of 'YOU LIEK TEH SIGHT OF UR OWN BLOOD?!' Ad nauseum
This is one of my favorite spots to visit earlier in the game. If you free the behemoth it will kill many of the raiders, giving you free access to a ton of weapons, ammo and loot. You can easily play sniper from the cliff with the sniper rifle you find in the hollow rock behind Megaton. And the Terrible Shotgun is my favorite weapon of the base game, so I want to get that as soon as I can for head exploding fun. Normally I'm against killing merchants, but Smiling Jack is a raider, and he's a pain to get to... so it's well worth killing him for the shotgun. I don't think the raiders were slavers. I think they bought those slaves to throw into the behemoth pen for entertainment and probably betting. The whole place seems to be a raider vice den. Bars, trading posts, strip club and brothel... A fighting pit makes sense in context, and of course it is outside. No way they could get a behemoth inside through the normal sized doors. It's possible they bought child slaves for... well you know. If I remember there's a reference to that kind of thing in Paradise Falls. When I went there though, that's not the impression I got... I suppose the madame would give the children toys if they went along and didn't cause trouble... But even that small kindness seems out of character for raiders. I had always assumed one of the dancers/prostitutes had an age play fetish and used those kids toys in their routine.
Jack may be a merchant, but he's basically a joke in that regard. If you really don't want to kill him for roleplay purposes, reverse pickpocket a bigger gun into his inventory. Then steal Terrible Shotgun. The "age play" raider is available with this - www.nexusmods.com/fallout3/mods/2390
How many bears does one little girl need? I have a lil' one & the answer is a lot. Not sure if this is even possible. But you must have accrued hundreds of toys by now. What do you do with them? Maybe you could play Santa Claus? Delivering the bears to kids across the wastelands. It would bring joy to kids in an otherwise bleak existence. Maybe there's a mod for this? I'd enjoy watching the video of it. Yeah, I know its jusy a game. It still breaks my heart.
megansimplystitch I’ve actually done this a bunch of times. Been a few times I’d see a kid and would drop a teddy bear near them. Yeah gameplay wise they do nothing but in my head it makes me feel good
all the toys and such in the bazaar could be due to the strange raider infatuation with child-like amenities? I distinctly remember raiders in fallout 3 being particularly fucking nuts.
Did no one notice the spatula at 11:35? Or am I just reading to much into the idea that a spatula is in a bedroom... while two Raiders were doing the dirty deed. Bethesda and their innuendos. Also shining light on something like this is really disturbing, but it answers the exact question of there truly are no rules, laws nor morals in this universe and I really just hope it is a gross fetish for kids toys. In Fallout NV theres even a guy who used a teddy bear while with a prostitute in a brothel somewhere in Freeside with an entire mission based with it which is just as disturbing...
Okay, so my theories are as follows: The child slaves were sold or taken to Paradise Falls(after some heavy activity); The toys are rather old, and the children grew up into the female raiders, who most likely got drugged up and brainwashed to the point where they forgot about how they got there to begin with; Or, the toys are just junk that's there, or some weird fetish stuff the raiders take part in. Raiders are usually so drugged up, or so heavily withdrawing, that attempting to understand their rationale is pretty difficult.
Actually, Reshy just made me think of something. Maybe they aren't meant to be seen as children's toys, but as "toys". Maybe they are meant to be the closest equivalent of adult toys without creating or using anything blatantly inappropriate. Granted, this is Fallout, but you can only go so far.
You're certainly an expert on provoking conversation, Ox. I'm noticing a theme of most comments: either correcting your pronunciation, or speculating on your theories. Well done video, again. Cheers! (And I do hope you will take a moment to find my original limerick on S&S 428)
I went and looked it up. Thanks Paul, very clever! For those who are curious, his limerick is: "There once was a Tauren named Oxhorn, Who, to tell tales, was born, His suspenders did stun, His streams were all fun, And up on his head, a bowler worn."
Thank you, sir! I'm inclined to explain the limerick for those unfamiliar with Oxhorn's history: Way back in the good old days, Oxhorn was the name of a World of Warcraft character, a Tauren, or half man/ half bull creature. Ox, our friendly neighborhood Oxhorn, had posted a video featuring this character, and thus his TH-cam channel was born. I'm sure a little exploration of his oldest videos will result in the discovery of the video in question. Cheers all 🍻
In the Evergreen Mills Bazaar there is a trader named Smiling Jack and he has a unique combat shotgun named The Terrible Shotgun and a bobble head. The bobble head is a barter bobble head.
23:26 THE WAY HE DRAMATICALLY SAYS "These are... Stripper poles." ALWAYS GETS ME New merch idea? [Edit] Other merch ideas (feel free to add more!) "Bobby pins and booze" "Jeez Charon!"
In Fallout 3, Raiders are ‘known’ to have toys lying everywhere in there bases. I always thought that most of them had a child at heart because of their violent child-like tendencies.
I have watched the Fallout 3 and New Vegas playlists twice in its entirety. The way you narrate your videos is so enticing and helps me through every work day. Thank you Oxhorn
Dear god, I thought paradise falls was bad because you hypnotized people to go there with the mesmetron, but this place is far worse. If I had the game and my character found this place, he probably would have fake vomited at the inhumanity of this. Survival doesn't go to these things at all and thus can't excuse this. The charges for these raiders a are prostitution, rape, kidnapping, and endangering the welfare of a child. They freaking deserved the one punishment for all these crimes: death!
Dragonborn Express in my opinion, (although, I have a "death note" way of thinking.) Death should be the punishment for ALL crimes, well, not things like speeding, or something mundane like that, but if criminals were killed, people would be afraid to break the law, therefore making a significant decrease in crime rates.
@ 0:40, I was freaking out so bad knowing that you were entering the Behemoth trap! but as soon as you pulled the out a Gauss rifle, I thought "oh never mind... he's safe" lol
My thought on the brothel with the toys is a gross fetish for the raiders,I mean they're chem addicts and drunk as a skunk,so it wouldn't surprise me with the toys. God I hope that's all it is. Also during the earlier part,you shouldn't have interrupted their private time,that wasn't very nice! Lmao😂😂😂Just Kidding. Man,I've missed the shotgun Smiling Jack had. I need to do another play through where I actually get all of the bobbleheads.
Bro I seriously love your videos because I don’t know everything about fallout lore, but I love playing the games while listening to you so I become more immersed
the youtube loading circle and the reticle on the Gauss rifle line up perfectly. just got lucky enough to get a loading pause while you had the gause rifle up.
The Terrible Shotgun...Hnnnngh...So good, even if you don't spec into a Critical Build. I suck at Stealth, so the few times I used it, I used a Sniper Rifle to minimize the risk. I never use Critical Builds, either, as it just isn't the way I like to play...Even so, just the crazy base-damage of the thing quickly made it my go-to weapon for any and all close-range encounters! There are few things as satisfying as unloading half a dozen Terrible Buckshot Blasts into the closest thing that dares exist in your presence! A pleasure I'm sure Charon agrees with, considering his particularly...trigger-happy usage of his shotgun!
As I saw with how it decimated those poor Deathclaws...and here I was, still scared of the darn things when I had a Portable Death Cannon in my back pocket the whole time! I should really look into playing a close-range Stealth Build one of these days...
Replaying the game & listening to lore, great combo when you get a little tired of music. Love how Charon is like: 'Where?!' 'Where?!" while attacking enemies& even after they're dead XD
My discovery was pretty different from yours. In my game, the behemoth teleports (someone confirmed this for me) Smiling Jack tells you the reason why he gives his services to you, and the brothel had naked raiders.
I always found it funny that you gained Karma with killing certain human enemies in the Fallout games. Yeah, Slavers are explainable given their profession, but knowing that Raiders have forcibly conscripted wastelanders into their ranks, under threat of death to them and/or their families no less, makes me wonder if gaining Karma through kills is realisitic. Just my thoughts.
Jeremy Hayer You gain Karma for killing certain enemies like bandits and Fiends because it’s implied they have terrorized innocents across the Wasteland, and you’re doing a service by removing them from the world.
I discovered this place early on in the game. At about level 4. The Terrible Shotgun helped me out so much since I didn't any companions. (LOL I got killed several times.)
WILL GILLIES Could be that Slaves were in that camp were Pre American citizens. Maybe they wanted to listen to there own Lost government after the war. It's what I think.
Dark theory... the Raiders are not raiders. They are Enclave agents, tasked with the mission of spreading horror in the wasteland to garner support for the Enclave.
Ox I don't comment much just because most of the time it feels worthless, however, in your case, your content needs to be commented on! it's amazing what I've always wanted out of lore videos. You tell us a fascinating invigorating story every time I see a video and I absolutely am in love with it. I started watching right before you started working on fallout new vegas and fallout 3. just know I watch your videos as soon as I can every day and I am extremely grateful for your content you are a blessing for lore nuts like myself and I just love your community and content and just want you to keep doing you man because its amazing and I cannot emphasize that enough. Thank you, Ox I wish I had money to give you cuz I would man.
It's odd to have this huge, interesting area and basically nothing going on in it for you to really interact with aside from Smiling Jack other than just clearing it out. I can't help but feel Bethesda had some ideas for this to be a town for an evil character or neutral or such but failed to implement it.
BadlanderOutsider That’s what I love about NV, not every raider group tried to kill you. Even if he faction was useless, at least they were if some importance.
Judging from the broken terminals with custom error messages, a lot of content got dummied out because some suit got cold feet. If I had to guess there was a slave ring with children and sex-slaves, possibly both at once. But since this would increase the esrb rating in the US, they got rid of it.
Greenhouse Fallout doesn't allow you to kill children it would make sense that they didn't show you any children and I think you may be right didn't notice it the first time I went there I really was only looking for and loot
Interesting enough, in the original fallout game you can kill children, even giving you a perk for it. Though apparently at the time it caused a lot of controversy, so that's probably why they make children immortal in all future games, with a few expectations of course.
15:44 The 8-Ball, the Med-X, and the spoon are references to Heroin. Most common form of doing Heroin is boiling it in a spoon and shooting it up with syringes. Often sold in an 8-Ball, or 3.5 grams.
If you want to keep Smiling Jack alive and get the Terrible Shotgun just use VATS to shoot the gun off. He will pick it up and it will be in his inventory, then pickpocket him.
Completed it using a Flamer, a Plasma Pistol, and Dogmeat. I have a pretty powerful character in Fallout 3 but still, it wasn't as hard as I thought it would be.
I think what they were doing was raising children to become girls for the brothel. Or they were just really sick and used the toys as....additional objects of pleasure.
i wish I could really take in the detail of the wasteland when playing fallout like this guy does. like i see skellingtons ,for example ,laying on the ground when exploring and dont think anything of it, but he sees how every little thing ties into something much bigger, I would love to be able to do that.
BUT WHAT WAS IN SMILING JACK'S LOCKER?! YOU NEVER OPENED IT! After you discussed the Terrible Shotgun, you immediately left the marketplace and headed for the strip club.
its his shop inv
TheSkunkrocker I checked that locker and there wasnt much in there.. chems ammunation and scrap + cnucles and chinese assaultrifle
Sorry, I forgot. Inside was just a tidy stash of ammo, weapons, and grenades.
It can't have been that important or it would have been included.
hey oxhorn just wanted to say i love your vids so much i watch them when ever i see you post a new one
Oxhorn is the king of binge-able videos, I've been using them as background noise for 5 hours straight working on my homework.
Preach.
I'm currently working on a Fallout tabletop RPG. I'm currently typing out the actual guides and manuals at the moment and hearing Oxhorn talk about Fallout's lore is both inspiring as well as making me go "D'oh! I forgot that one thing!".
I've been binging for the past few hours too.
Klutz yes
I watch him while I play fallout nv
Klutz same I was downloading stuff and I caught up with his episodes
Homework is bad for you
Smiling Jack is a reference to Vampire the Masquerade: Bloodlines, which features a character also called Smiling Jack who warns the Player to watch out for people wielding shotguns.
Voiced by Bender.
How funny. I’m playing Vampire Bloodlines while listening to this
1:42 when your gun can make a giant do a freaking backflip, you know that shit is a keeper
yes but, that poor super mutant just wanted his teddy bear back XD I'm joking but I liketo think that teddy cage was the super mutant going. "Okay teddy bear gaurd our train while I bring back human to eat." XD Teddy freaks out and he's like "I sense a disturbance teddy bear needs me " lol (hope ya enjoyed that bs joke wish I could makea comic out of it lol)
SymbolicSky Hey, Super Mutants in D.C. are that crazy lol
lol I just thought that my little theory was cute so i stuck with it lol XD
SymbolicSky that idea is adorable and now is some weird headcanon for me XD “Teddy the Terrible. Guard here.”
Now I can never hurt the behemoth XD
I just thought it was a fun little headcanon. Lol you can always just toss your companion and let it take care of the mutant. Or just sneak around it all together XD
Games like Fallout make me glad that smellovision never caught on. Just imagine what a supermutant hideout smells like.
oh god probably blood mold feces body oder and vomit
I’m surprised there aren’t a lot of dialogue types from the character and Mocs that says anything like this
mr deathclaw992 ~ not to mention ghoul breath. No mouthwash in 100 plus years and necrotic flesh. Can you imagine what that would be like?
Wasteland Seven Radiation would kill bacteria.
Wasteland Seven me in the morning
“This good karma character,” a quote from Oxhorn
“Now he has outlived his usefulness so we should destroy this super mutant.” Also Oxhorn
I enjoy some good irony
It's a Mercy killing
>Good Karma Character
>Literally bullies a Behemoth to death
Murder is fun when it's the right people
Oxhorn : 'Every now and then'
Me: Without flinching 'I get a little bit lonely And you're never coming round'
turn around
(Hope to god this is the song I think it is)
Every now and then I get a little bit tired of listening to the sound of my (tuuuurn aroooooooouuuuuuuuund)
James Brownson turn around bright eyes
@joseph racca One of the ones from Diamond City radio
Raiders listening to Enclave radio makes more sense then if they were to listen to 3Dog. He actively tells people where raiders have been seen and to avoid them
Well, Three Dog would actually make tactical sense, if I was a raider. If I hear him telling people about hideouts, specifically my hideout, I’d probably know to change my strategy to accommodate the people knowing this information, and keep on raiding. But then again, most Raiders wouldn’t want to know that they’ve been found out, they aren’t exactly bright.
@@a-cell4564 yeah, if i was a raider i wouldn't want anyone knowing my base/location.
Listening to the best radio station and having a "good time" and oxhorn comes in and ruins everything
Yeah
not to mention him doxxing your enemies for free
When you started walking towards the train cars then the teddy bear, I was like, "OMG PTSD ALL OVER AGAIN" LOL I was 12 when the game first came out and this was my 1st Behemoth I had run into.
alleyrat1476 oh me too. It is honestly probably my favorite game I have played.
Alyx Lust__Exe Me too but I had t-51b armor, mirv, and tri beam laser rifle
kronie homie I think I freaked out and just mini nuked it to death! Lol
Alyx Lust__Exe memories from fallout were great. Wish we could have joined the enclave though, they were my favorite faction. Fallout 3 is my second favorite fallout, right in front of new vegas and right before 2
When the game came out I watched my brother play it. Told him to investigate the swan pile in the middle of the pond. Never again. First time seeing a behemoth. We were both screaming as he took it down
4:45 "You don't shoot a guy in the dick, that's not cool Butters!" - Eric Cartman
But its funny af
it absolutely baffles me that people dislike these videos, these are my favourite. I watch them everyday and I always end up playing fallout
Luke Adamson same
Maybe they're disliking the horrible discovery in the video? Like its a knee jerk reaction to dislike something you find horrifying even if the video itself is excellent?
Just my theory
BOWIESENSEI haters gnna hate
"Where there are shells there should be a shotgun"
Says this while looking at the shotgun literally mounted on his back.
That plan of attack at the beginning was genius I never would have thought of that 👏👏👏
How? Its so god damn simple lmao
Does your brain have higher cognitive fucntion?
@@red_menace1829 Hello very smort man
Sometimes simplicity is the smartest method.
@@red_menace1829 Why are you an asshole?
"As you could see, the wild teddy bear is very territorial of their shopping cart cages. Watch as the Predator also know as Oxhorn startles it. When startled, teddys bears like this one calls upon their slaves, the mighty behemoth. But today, Oxhorn got away with the bear and killed the bear's slave. What will happen to this bear? Tune in next time for another Wastland wildlife episode."
Kai B. I just read this in the voice of David Attenborough....
Voodoo Baby XD
Lol
Yeah the teddy bear actually did make that noise!
Lol i love it!!
I immediately recognized the train car and went oh yeah. I found it in a play through around level 2 and all I had was a 10m pistol and a .32 pistol.
I love "The Terrible Shotgun" One of my favorites in FO3. I always pick it up early on. Also the Lincolns Repeater. Those are 2 best guns in the game imo
Yesss love the Lincoln repeater lol
Dear Oxhorn, I am a huge fallout fan and a total lore junkie and i have just recently discovered your channel and i just wanted you to know as far as i'm concerned you provide the the best and most consistent fallout content on TH-cam today BY FAR.
the way you say bazaar... I wasn't watching, only listening, and was like, "a raider what?"
viziroth Oxhorn, reforming pronunciation since 2011.
For anyone wondering, it's pronounced like "Bizarre"
JakeTakesTheCakes or even Buh-zar
I was wonder if anyone else heard that :P poor Ox, he speaks so well but does this a lot with words. Its kinda cute
It's funny, I enjoy these videos so much, and he's so good I guess I lazily expect everything to be perfect. So then it really irritates me when he gets words wrong, I think he's so good it feels more like he's doing it on purpose, just to be snobby or something.
Does anyone find it weird that the bobblehead is holding a cap?
Hmmm. Yeah that is weird.
well maybe it used to hold a coin but after the many years it dropped of, and a clever wastelander then put a cap on it
+Logan R My thoughts exactly; should be holding something like a coin or a bag of money or something that would have been recognized as money pre-war.
Vault tec had predicted bottle caps will be currency in the wasteland I don’t know how but in the special videos from fallout 4 you can see what I mean
Huh, I actually never noticed that. Maybe it was originally a Nuka Cola promotional item before the bombs dropped?
Nice tactical thinking Ox. :)
As to the kids toys, three possibilities.
a) the prostitutes were kids when they were brought there and were used up and executed and the slavers hadn't found suitable replacements yet.
b) the prostitutes had kids. Think about it, do you ever run into contraceptives in the wasteland? Condoms? As with per-contraceptive brothels kids are a cost of doing business. So those toys could have belonged to the prostitute's kids and the brats played in mommy's "work" area around the poles in between shows.
c) it was a fetish thing. Like some guys who get off on school girls even if the "girl" in question got out of school 10 years ago.
If I would hazard a guess, I'd say all the above at one time or another. This is the wasteland and a raider den.
May they all be devoured by deathclaws.
Wasteland Seven Wouldn't a death by deathclaws (perhaps there's a pun intended) be a little too fast for those raiders?
Other possibilities could be that they used mentally disabled women, which I know, is horrible, but we can’t ignore possibles
Gamerman 375 If you kill them slowly you’re no better than they are, only through merciful justice can you elevate yourself above them
Durnak the Zero That has nothing to do with the reason why they are morally wrong. You are basically concluding that killing raiders slowly is the same as killing settlers slowly.
Well I was thinking of them being eaten alive. Kind of like wolves do with a hamstrung bison. They don't wait till its dead. They just start feeding.
I was always under the impression that the toys were euphemisms for more adult toys
It probably is.
I sorta wish it did but that teddy bear cage place seems like it's set up to capture children
I second that. I believe Fallout just didn't want to put dildos and butt plugs, so they put other types of "toys" as like placeholders. Hard to know what they do, because sometimes FO has things legit, and other times not.
An example would be Teddy Bears in place of child skeletons. Many baby carriages or places baby skeletons would be have teddy bears in their place. That was actually confirmed.
However, sometimes they are just meant to be regular teddy bears or easter eggs. You never truly know.
that or the raiders have some weird kinks
I definitely think the prospect of children being there is just an issue with the lack of effective birth control post-war. Its likely they were just the kids of the prostitutes who were then locked up to stop them from escaping... What happened to them however is a question i dont have an answer for.
I theorized it could also be maybe they were kidnapped at a young age, and with no one to really teach them to grow up, they just stayed in the childish mindset? If you have read World War Z, there is a a section about a girl who is about 19 with the mind of a 8 year old because she was on her own for the formative years. That could possibly be it?
I theorized it could also be maybe they were kidnapped at a young age, and with no one to really teach them to grow up, they just stayed in the childish mindset? If you have read World War Z, there is a a section about a girl who is about 19 with the mind of a 8 year old because she was on her own for the formative years. That could possibly be it?
Hamakaze
They probably bolted before the player got down to the Bazaar. There IS a back entrace around where Smiling Jack was set up.
Maybe they were the food for the super mutant
I'd rather not find out
The kids obviously because more prostitutes and little raiders! Or they were killed for complaining...
I will have a squad of paladins eradicate those raiders
Arthur Maxson your my hero maxson
who are you and what have you done to the real Maxson?
Asher Tirona I'm the real one
ian moon I'm honored you feel that way
AD VICTORIAM brother
can you stop stealing from farms? If not I may have to intervene
Crap it's been almost 8 years since I've heard three dog and I've still got his lines stuck in my head.....
Oh bong bonga bonga bonga i dont wanna leave the conga lodododododo
Chiiiiildren!
Three dog is hands down the greatest radio show host.....EVER! not just in fallout! Hey children, are you hungry for some 200 year old Salisbury steak, or are you hungry for some news? I'm guessin' news. Haha. Here it is.
Three Dog made the whole game ... Gave it a feeling of being live...
Helooooo wasteland Its your host ,three dog,hows everybody doing?
Ox, I personally believe post war the use of proper birth control fell out of practice. Raider children were being raised there (even having their own room) after being born to the stripper/prostitutes. The amateur surgery room above possibly being a place where the mothers deliver before they go back to working. It may even be possible the children are sold as slaves as the bring a better price as shown at Shady Sands.
Reminds me of the bit in the Omega Man when they laugh at a pack of morning after pills XD
I mean, it does make a lot of sense. After all, if the Raiders aren't procreating, how in the hell are their so many Raider gangs around? Sure, a few of them were probably folks that lost everything and had no choice, but that doesn't explain the sheer number of bloodthirsty psychopaths out there. Going from a down-on-his-luck survivor to mass-murdering raider doesn't happen over night. (As you can tell from some of the Raider Dialogue throughout the various games, with some of them saying things like "I hope they don't struggle...I hate it when they struggle..." in a despondent tone, as compared to most Raiders vicious dialogue.)
I think it makes a lot of sense that Raider Children are out there, being raised on violence and degeneracy since the day they were born. The small kindnesses like the toys and teddy bears would reinforce their loyalty to the gang from a very young age. The only kindness they ever experience is from the prostitutes and such, so obviously they would grow up particularly loyal to them. Combine the debauchery of the Raider Lifestyle with a fierce dependency on the gang, and you've got some home-grown psychopaths in the making, ready to kill and die for their Gang Boss.
The kids that show 'promise', aka a strong sense of loyalty and complete lack of empathy, are folded into the ranks. The kids that don't are either sold to slavers, forced into prostitution like their parents, or are just outright killed and fed to the Behemoth. (Or to the other kids...)
ugh, I was thinking something similar but the only thing I cant explain in that scenario would be ...why were the toys on the "dance floor"
@@dwarfbunni Mom still has to entertain, and they probably don't have a dedicated babysitter. "Sit here and behave, little baby raider, while Mommy dances. Here's a toy car to play with."
As fucked as that it's, it's better than raiders using kids for various things I wish I didn't know could be done to humans.
Thanks for saving my mind from what Ox predicted
I’m really glad that raiders got more personality in fo4, I loved hearing their stories (like Grenade guy) and hearing about their stories (Tom/red Tourette, zeller, Jarod, wire, slag etc)
My fav was Slag from the iron workshop as his armour was badass!
listening to them banter while sneaking around is so entertaining
In fo4 Bosco was my favourite raider
As much as I love New Vegas, the fiends were laughably one dimensional. In 3 they at least said funny shit instead of 'YOU LIEK TEH SIGHT OF UR OWN BLOOD?!' Ad nauseum
SixPack Shakur (Rep5281) read my comment again, fella :) 👍✌
I always discover Evergreen Mills on my way to Tranquility Lane. ( I forget the name of the vault you find the lane in)
Edit: Oh My God he noticed me!
DeathSlayer Dude vault 112
Issac Arellano thanks
Robots animals and ferals they don't know what their doing but raiders know what they do
This is one of my favorite spots to visit earlier in the game. If you free the behemoth it will kill many of the raiders, giving you free access to a ton of weapons, ammo and loot. You can easily play sniper from the cliff with the sniper rifle you find in the hollow rock behind Megaton. And the Terrible Shotgun is my favorite weapon of the base game, so I want to get that as soon as I can for head exploding fun. Normally I'm against killing merchants, but Smiling Jack is a raider, and he's a pain to get to... so it's well worth killing him for the shotgun.
I don't think the raiders were slavers. I think they bought those slaves to throw into the behemoth pen for entertainment and probably betting. The whole place seems to be a raider vice den. Bars, trading posts, strip club and brothel... A fighting pit makes sense in context, and of course it is outside. No way they could get a behemoth inside through the normal sized doors.
It's possible they bought child slaves for... well you know. If I remember there's a reference to that kind of thing in Paradise Falls. When I went there though, that's not the impression I got... I suppose the madame would give the children toys if they went along and didn't cause trouble... But even that small kindness seems out of character for raiders. I had always assumed one of the dancers/prostitutes had an age play fetish and used those kids toys in their routine.
I had a similar impression. I felt the age play was put in to emphasize the amorality of raider culture.
the 'age play' angle is reinforced by what the raider in the cage at the brothel was wearing.
Jack may be a merchant, but he's basically a joke in that regard. If you really don't want to kill him for roleplay purposes, reverse pickpocket a bigger gun into his inventory. Then steal Terrible Shotgun.
The "age play" raider is available with this - www.nexusmods.com/fallout3/mods/2390
I have never heard the word “bazaar” pronounced that way.
Omg, I thought I was having a stroke for a second.
Pronounced like laser
Gwesty33 96tears I always pronounce like “bizarre”
Black-Op345Gaming buh tsar
I know im like 3 years late, but i love this dude's videos, but sometimes the way he pronounces shit makes me disproportionately angry.
1:20 had No Idea you had a companion, Charon scared the Fuck outta me!
Oxhorn, idea for your next shirt. A pile of ash with a finger sticking out. XD That would be awesome.
The Wondering Storyteller Yes
The Wondering Storyteller your dream came true
Kinda fucked up to think you aren't getting paid for your idea
Tap that ash
Marie is going to have more teddy bears than every child in the world combined by the time you're done with this playthrough Ox. Great episode!
How many bears does one little girl need? I have a lil' one & the answer is a lot.
Not sure if this is even possible. But you must have accrued hundreds of toys by now. What do you do with them?
Maybe you could play Santa Claus? Delivering the bears to kids across the wastelands. It would bring joy to kids in an otherwise bleak existence.
Maybe there's a mod for this? I'd enjoy watching the video of it. Yeah, I know its jusy a game. It still breaks my heart.
I'm just imagining a little girl in a whole giant room filled to the ceiling with teddy bears. "I AM THE TEDDY QUEEN!"
Marie must eat them.
megansimplystitch I’ve actually done this a bunch of times. Been a few times I’d see a kid and would drop a teddy bear near them. Yeah gameplay wise they do nothing but in my head it makes me feel good
all the toys and such in the bazaar could be due to the strange raider infatuation with child-like amenities? I distinctly remember raiders in fallout 3 being particularly fucking nuts.
That's what I was thinking. Fallout 3 raiders are into really kinky stuff.
Idk if I’m right but in order to make myself feel better I’m gonna say the toys and teddy bears are a part of a weird raider fetish
Did no one notice the spatula at 11:35? Or am I just reading to much into the idea that a spatula is in a bedroom... while two Raiders were doing the dirty deed. Bethesda and their innuendos.
Also shining light on something like this is really disturbing, but it answers the exact question of there truly are no rules, laws nor morals in this universe and I really just hope it is a gross fetish for kids toys. In Fallout NV theres even a guy who used a teddy bear while with a prostitute in a brothel somewhere in Freeside with an entire mission based with it which is just as disturbing...
The terrible shotgun was probably broken because your shot him while it was on his back.
HOW DARE YOU TAKE THAT BEHEMOTHS TEDDY BEAR
just completely uncalled for
Okay, so my theories are as follows:
The child slaves were sold or taken to Paradise Falls(after some heavy activity);
The toys are rather old, and the children grew up into the female raiders, who most likely got drugged up and brainwashed to the point where they forgot about how they got there to begin with;
Or, the toys are just junk that's there, or some weird fetish stuff the raiders take part in. Raiders are usually so drugged up, or so heavily withdrawing, that attempting to understand their rationale is pretty difficult.
Having toys there for strippers (etc) to 'play' with while they perform seems pretty reasonable to me.
Reshy Poo, still, it's disgusting!
Actually, Reshy just made me think of something. Maybe they aren't meant to be seen as children's toys, but as "toys". Maybe they are meant to be the closest equivalent of adult toys without creating or using anything blatantly inappropriate. Granted, this is Fallout, but you can only go so far.
J. Lee Tillery makes sense
*Shoots ash pile twice* "What's the matter, can't stand the sight of your own blood?"
10:08 Oh this is gonna be fun, RRRAAGGH Kickas-" ded
Some of these arent even appealing to me but you do this very well and even if it wasnt before, you always find someway to make it interesting.
The teddy bears and trike could be having the slaves acting childlike in a "sexy" way without the depravity of actually having child slaves.
Maybe the toys are stand ins for sex toys. You know, a metaphor
Exactly!! Just like dirty water in side a tub.
I have to agree with you they may be in a post-apocalyptic world but no one messes with that shit or even mentions it being a possibility.
Hope you continue the story where you play the main mission.
You're certainly an expert on provoking conversation, Ox. I'm noticing a theme of most comments: either correcting your pronunciation, or speculating on your theories. Well done video, again. Cheers! (And I do hope you will take a moment to find my original limerick on S&S 428)
I went and looked it up. Thanks Paul, very clever!
For those who are curious, his limerick is:
"There once was a Tauren named Oxhorn,
Who, to tell tales, was born,
His suspenders did stun,
His streams were all fun,
And up on his head, a bowler worn."
Paul Belanger i like the limerick
Thank you, sir! I'm inclined to explain the limerick for those unfamiliar with Oxhorn's history: Way back in the good old days, Oxhorn was the name of a World of Warcraft character, a Tauren, or half man/ half bull creature. Ox, our friendly neighborhood Oxhorn, had posted a video featuring this character, and thus his TH-cam channel was born. I'm sure a little exploration of his oldest videos will result in the discovery of the video in question. Cheers all 🍻
Clever, very clever
Looks to me like the "S" fell off the sign, even the game refers to it as "Mills"
1:08 I love how you just pick up the posessed teddy bear without a second thought XD
In the Evergreen Mills Bazaar there is a trader named Smiling Jack and he has a unique combat shotgun named The Terrible Shotgun and a bobble head. The bobble head is a barter bobble head.
thanks for stating the obvious
1:27 I thought Oxhorn went straight savage and one shoted a behemoth. lol
I'm just going by voice here.. but I think Three Dog is starting to turn ghoul.
23:26 THE WAY HE DRAMATICALLY SAYS "These are... Stripper poles." ALWAYS GETS ME
New merch idea?
[Edit] Other merch ideas (feel free to add more!)
"Bobby pins and booze"
"Jeez Charon!"
Phew. That was intense. Great video. Thanks Oxhorn! 👏
milinm dick.
24:17
"let's see if we can find any enemies"
*raider comes out
"Oh"
*Raiders body explodes
Raiders are the hipsters of the wasteland. They listen to the radio ironically.
In Fallout 3, Raiders are ‘known’ to have toys lying everywhere in there bases. I always thought that most of them had a child at heart because of their violent child-like tendencies.
I used this place as a player home on every play through
I have watched the Fallout 3 and New Vegas playlists twice in its entirety. The way you narrate your videos is so enticing and helps me through every work day. Thank you Oxhorn
Dear god, I thought paradise falls was bad because you hypnotized people to go there with the mesmetron, but this place is far worse. If I had the game and my character found this place, he probably would have fake vomited at the inhumanity of this. Survival doesn't go to these things at all and thus can't excuse this. The charges for these raiders a are prostitution, rape, kidnapping, and endangering the welfare of a child. They freaking deserved the one punishment for all these crimes: death!
Dragonborn Express in my opinion, (although, I have a "death note" way of thinking.) Death should be the punishment for ALL crimes, well, not things like speeding, or something mundane like that, but if criminals were killed, people would be afraid to break the law, therefore making a significant decrease in crime rates.
Every veteran fallout 3 player screamed "DONT TOUCH IT" @ 1:15 lol
These videos are made with absolute perfection
@ 0:40, I was freaking out so bad knowing that you were entering the Behemoth trap! but as soon as you pulled the out a Gauss rifle, I thought "oh never mind... he's safe" lol
My thought on the brothel with the toys is a gross fetish for the raiders,I mean they're chem addicts and drunk as a skunk,so it wouldn't surprise me with the toys. God I hope that's all it is. Also during the earlier part,you shouldn't have interrupted their private time,that wasn't very nice!
Lmao😂😂😂Just Kidding.
Man,I've missed the shotgun Smiling Jack had. I need to do another play through where I actually get all of the bobbleheads.
Bro I seriously love your videos because I don’t know everything about fallout lore, but I love playing the games while listening to you so I become more immersed
your fallout 3 looks better then my fallout 4.....
Norman praise the lord for mods lol
Elder Jaxon
Yeah unfortunately those mods aren't able to be put on my Fallout New Vegas Ultimate Edition. :-/
Grim Gamer tbh there are some better mods on Fallout New Vegas than Fallout 3.
Dude same my fallout 4 sucks ass lmao but my fallout 3 runs so much smoother than fallout 4
Still watching your fallout lore videos in 2024. Please never take these down...they are my comfort!
The reason the shotgun was broken was because you shot it twice when you were killing Smiling Jack!
the youtube loading circle and the reticle on the Gauss rifle line up perfectly. just got lucky enough to get a loading pause while you had the gause rifle up.
The Terrible Shotgun...Hnnnngh...So good, even if you don't spec into a Critical Build. I suck at Stealth, so the few times I used it, I used a Sniper Rifle to minimize the risk. I never use Critical Builds, either, as it just isn't the way I like to play...Even so, just the crazy base-damage of the thing quickly made it my go-to weapon for any and all close-range encounters! There are few things as satisfying as unloading half a dozen Terrible Buckshot Blasts into the closest thing that dares exist in your presence! A pleasure I'm sure Charon agrees with, considering his particularly...trigger-happy usage of his shotgun!
Sneak Attack Crits with The Terrible are absolutely monstrous.
As I saw with how it decimated those poor Deathclaws...and here I was, still scared of the darn things when I had a Portable Death Cannon in my back pocket the whole time! I should really look into playing a close-range Stealth Build one of these days...
Replaying the game & listening to lore, great combo when you get a little tired of music.
Love how Charon is like: 'Where?!' 'Where?!" while attacking enemies& even after they're dead XD
What mods are you using? The scenery looks crisp and more detailed and the colors are brighter, and I really like that.
My discovery was pretty different from yours. In my game, the behemoth teleports (someone confirmed this for me) Smiling Jack tells you the reason why he gives his services to you, and the brothel had naked raiders.
Asher Tirona
Maybe he had a mod activated that prevented the raider part. After all, if he wants this monetized he can’t do it without that mod.
they weren't really naked, they just had no armor and was wearing the standard underwear
I always found it funny that you gained Karma with killing certain human enemies in the Fallout games. Yeah, Slavers are explainable given their profession, but knowing that Raiders have forcibly conscripted wastelanders into their ranks, under threat of death to them and/or their families no less, makes me wonder if gaining Karma through kills is realisitic. Just my thoughts.
you dont gain karma every time you kill a raider
Jeremy Hayer You gain Karma for killing certain enemies like bandits and Fiends because it’s implied they have terrorized innocents across the Wasteland, and you’re doing a service by removing them from the world.
My best memory of Evergreen Mills was when Dogmeat opened the Super Mutant Bahemoth cage, scared and confused me.
Holy shit I had the same thing happen 😂😂
I remember screaming and being like wtf 😂😂
Whether or not all of these degenerate Raiders had an interest in particularly slaves a particular ages is a tartan makes me physically sick
"What's the matter, can't stand the sight of your own blood?"
your videos are nostalgic keep up the good work ;)
The Terrible shotgun is poorly named and I love it so much its amazing
I've killed a loooot of Raiders but even I never took on Paradise Falls. Ugh! Plus it was good money for those Chinese rifles.
gmjr30 you never taken paradise falls down
gmjr30 i have killed every raider in paradise falls and i had 5 stimpaks with no companion
But i did that years ago tho
I'm greedy. I wanted to sell those chinese rifles.
With my good Karma character I brought the holy crusade down on that place. No survivors 😏
I discovered this place early on in the game. At about level 4. The Terrible Shotgun
helped me out so much since I didn't any companions. (LOL I got killed several times.)
as a proud resident of McLean Virgina i think thats so cool were in the game. btw its pronounced Mc (mick) Clean (clain)
"Bay-zar"? I've only heard it as "buh-zar"...
24:18
-Oxhorn: Oh
-Raider: Fresh blood!
-Dink
-BOOM!
That's a moment to remember XD
Why would Raiders listen to Enclave Radio? Your right, IT NO MAKE-A SENSE-A.
What a mistake-a to make-a
Alternatively the could view it like my characters do. It's a comedy show!
WILL GILLIES Could be that Slaves were in that camp were Pre American citizens. Maybe they wanted to listen to there own Lost government after the war. It's what I think.
Dark theory... the Raiders are not raiders. They are Enclave agents, tasked with the mission of spreading horror in the wasteland to garner support for the Enclave.
Ox I don't comment much just because most of the time it feels worthless, however, in your case, your content needs to be commented on! it's amazing what I've always wanted out of lore videos. You tell us a fascinating invigorating story every time I see a video and I absolutely am in love with it. I started watching right before you started working on fallout new vegas and fallout 3. just know I watch your videos as soon as I can every day and I am extremely grateful for your content you are a blessing for lore nuts like myself and I just love your community and content and just want you to keep doing you man because its amazing and I cannot emphasize that enough. Thank you, Ox I wish I had money to give you cuz I would man.
It's odd to have this huge, interesting area and basically nothing going on in it for you to really interact with aside from Smiling Jack other than just clearing it out. I can't help but feel Bethesda had some ideas for this to be a town for an evil character or neutral or such but failed to implement it.
BadlanderOutsider
That’s what I love about NV, not every raider group tried to kill you. Even if he faction was useless, at least they were if some importance.
Judging from the broken terminals with custom error messages, a lot of content got dummied out because some suit got cold feet. If I had to guess there was a slave ring with children and sex-slaves, possibly both at once. But since this would increase the esrb rating in the US, they got rid of it.
I think Bethesda intends us to think for our selves in this situation. They are the environmental storytelling type
Super Mutant Behemoth: "Oh my god is that Oxhorn?! Hey Oxhorn, I love your vide..." BAM!!! Ox: Just another day cleaning the wasteland>
Greenhouse Fallout doesn't allow you to kill children it would make sense that they didn't show you any children and I think you may be right didn't notice it the first time I went there I really was only looking for and loot
Beginning of that supposed to say considering Fallout Greenhouse damn autocorrect and I didn't catch it
Interesting enough, in the original fallout game you can kill children, even giving you a perk for it. Though apparently at the time it caused a lot of controversy, so that's probably why they make children immortal in all future games, with a few expectations of course.
15:44 The 8-Ball, the Med-X, and the spoon are references to Heroin. Most common form of doing Heroin is boiling it in a spoon and shooting it up with syringes. Often sold in an 8-Ball, or 3.5 grams.
They could have been for the raiders children my money’s on raiders don’t pull out
If you want to keep Smiling Jack alive and get the Terrible Shotgun just use VATS to shoot the gun off. He will pick it up and it will be in his inventory, then pickpocket him.
Can you do deathclaw santuary
Yes I will eventually
Oxhorn good luck walked in with Tesla armor walked out with a broken helmet and nearly destroyed body armor
Completed it using a Flamer, a Plasma Pistol, and Dogmeat. I have a pretty powerful character in Fallout 3 but still, it wasn't as hard as I thought it would be.
Philo Sophysh dogmeat he always dies for me
Oxhorn ok thanks
"Bay-zar"? You feeling okay, Ox?
I think what they were doing was raising children to become girls for the brothel. Or they were just really sick and used the toys as....additional objects of pleasure.
The Wondering Storyteller When you can't use the paddle use the bear and when you can't use the dildo use the fucking car
lron Templar
Anything is fuckable I guess.
I would assume ''raising children to become girls for the brothel'' includes sexual child slavery as part of the ''training''.
Omg ,I saw the teddy bear and was like "NOOOOOO don't do it" . Brought back memories of getting owned by that behemoth lol.
why didnt u open the smiling jacks locker? :(((
24:18
"Fresh blood!"
Violence, followed by Charon sprinting to bathe in the blood fountain.
"Where?!"
Either evergreen mills IS that dark or these raiders are mentally unsound...probably the former
i wish I could really take in the detail of the wasteland when playing fallout like this guy does. like i see skellingtons ,for example ,laying on the ground when exploring and dont think anything of it, but he sees how every little thing ties into something much bigger, I would love to be able to do that.
Why can’t I like videos more than once?? 😤
In terms of that behemoth wanting his teddy back at the beginning... He always spawned right by the tipped car for me. On different saves too.
Let's hope I don't miss this first shot...
I though that was so funny for some reason