Thank you for the excellent videos on your site. I am on Day 2 with the Oticon Real 1's. They are making a dramatic difference with word clarity, and I can't believe just how much I was not hearing before.
I'm being fitted for mine tomorrow! First time hearing aids purchase and have been listening to and watching your videos for a couple of months now. You've helped me quite a bit in questions to ask and my doctor and she watches your videos as well. I'm looking forward to seeing oops hearing them in real world application. I'm going to ask her about that custom ear mold as well. Thanks again Dr. Cliff
I appreciate you bringing in the “geek” and the personal trial-ing of these! It’s been the most helpful video by far. It seems like most videos on hearing aids is just repeating the manufacturer’s brochure wording … which helps exactly no one! Lol, thank you doc!
Thanks very much for the review! Your videos have been extremely helpful to me. I'm a first-time hearing aid user with mild High-Frequency hearing loss. I recently completed around 30 days of a trial with the More 1. I'm now on day 9 of a trial of the Real 1. My audiologist follows Best Practices and uses Real Ear Measurement. Concerning the new features of the Real 1: - Very surprisingly, handling is more sensitive with the Real 1 causing me to hear more static, which is triggered more easily in both the right and left hearing aids. I take my glasses off and on many times throughout the day, which is one reason I notice this. For me, the new handling feature clearly does not work at all. I wonder if the handling feature is perhaps not turned on. I've informed my audiologist about this problem, but since her practice does not allow remote changes, she'll have to check this out when I next see her in 2 weeks. - In my limited exposure to wind conditions, I was easily able to carry on a conversation outside without being bothered by wind noise. I believe this is an improvement over the More 1, but I really can't say for sure. I don't know if this is related, but from inside the house, I seem to hear more of the outside wind and rustling tree noise than with the More 1. - So far, I can't tell if the Sudden Noise reduction feature is working or not. I think I would have to do a side-by-side comparison to know. All that said, I really like both the More 1 and Real 1. The improved sounds I hear with both are very natural.
Glad to hear you are having good results with your hearing aids. I’m trialing the More 1right now and I am wondering if it is worth upgrading it to the Real 1? Did you notice an improvement with clarity? I would appreciate any input you could provide.
@@sandyscott2150 Hi Sandy. For me, I'm planning to go with the Real 1 even though there's an increased cost of $220 ($80 because Oticon raised their prices plus $140 for the Real 1 fitting fee). One reason that influenced me is because the Real 1 has the latest technology. And although the Real 1 improved handling feature is not currently working for me, I think that can be corrected. Also, I feel like the Sudden Noise is reduced a bit and wind handling seems better. To verify, I wish I could do a side-by-side comparison of the new features, but I trust that those new features are an actual improvement and not my imagination. As for improved clarity, I believe the Real 1 has better clarity than the More 1 overall, but that could very well be due to some minor tweaking that my audiologist did when I went from the More 1 to the Real 1. By far the biggest change that I noticed with the Real 1 is that I'm clearly hearing more sounds, but again, that's probably as a result of the minor tweaks my audiologist made. At first, it was like the first time I put on hearing aids, but I quickly adapted after a couple of days. Overall, I believe I hear better with the Real 1 and I like the clarity of more sounds, which sound very natural. I don't think you can go wrong with either the More 1 or Real 1. If the Real 1 wasn't available, I would have bought the More 1. I hope this helps!
@@barney9997 Yes, it helps. Thank you very much for the detailed description! I think I’m leaning toward the Real 1 even though it’s going to be a hassle to return the others.
@@sandyscott2150 You're very welcome. Sorry to hear returning the More 1 will be a hassle for you. I guess I'm very fortunate that my audiologist made it completely hassle-free to switch from the More 1 to the Real 1.
Today for the first time I wore the Real 1 while playing pickleball outdoors in fairly windy conditions. They performed really well. Very natural with great clarity. I didn't really even hear the wind, even though the wind was greatly affecting the pickleball. At worst the wind was very, very minimal background noise, if I heard it at all. Also, I thought the loud (some say obnoxious) sound of the pickleball hitting the paddle would be heightened, but that wasn't the case at all. The sounds all seemed proportionately correct, natural, and very clear. I was very impressed.
Getting hearing aids for the first time. 59 years old. Mild to moderate hearing loss. Tilted heavily toward loss at high frequency. Going to an audiologist for advice, purchase and all around assistance. Question: Generally is it better to get newest model ( example Oticon Real ) at lowest level offered OR lower model ( Ex Oticon Zircon 1 ) at highest level. Probably not as simple as that I realize but wondered what you might say. Sean O'D
It has been several years since I got my Oticon Agil Pro HAs and they have worked well for me. On this I noticed with the Oticon Streamer is it is not Stereo. There is no separation to one ear or the other when I stream to the HAs by Bluetooth through the Streamer. I proved this by streaming from a WEB site which tests for this. I found the Phonak Paradise Life versions did provide stereo separation, but found the sound would drift over time to one side. I would like to know if the new Oticon Real and the Phonak Lumity provide stereo and don't have drifting to one side issues. This was very evident when listening to streamed audio books. Thank you very much for providing a great TH-cam learning site!!!
Thanks Cliff. The Real gives me hope for my future devices. I ride bikes a lot, usually 3 plus times a week. I listen to music streaming through my current Oticons when riding but the wind noise often forces me to mute aids which makes it difficult when meeting another person on the trail. AND of course I have an Android so location of my phone on my person and "talking to Google" for commands is an ongoing struggle.
I tried these out in the audiologist's office, but not in a noisy environment or outside. The difference in my hearing was instantly noticeable. But, I still haven't committed to buying them because $6,000.00 a pair is so expensive. I was floored by the price. Now I'm wondering if it's worth trying something less expensive first. This is a very frustrating product to research and shop.
I am also discovering the very high prices of such devices, after all apart from miniaturization there is nothing technologically outstanding in hearing aids. I feel very frustrated by the possible high mark up these manufacturers , shame on them.
Can't get nerdy enough for me. I love the Real 1s. Really happy with them. I can also identify the slight sound artefact sometimes. I think it's when the chip doesn't really know what to do so it starts to modulate. Anyway. Really good video. Stay nerdy 🤓
I had the pleasure to meet you, You happen to be Sitted next to me with your lovely wife during the AAA last year. You are a real nice person, and I had a lovely chat doc. Keep up the good work
Both my current and previous hearing aids do this and I find it really helpful! Even if it’s possible to fix this with more technology I wouldn’t want to.
Hey Dr Cliff! Love your videos! Question: would the custom ear mold that is available with the Oticon Real aids allow for a stethoscope to be used? I’m a nurse and typically have to take my aids out to use a stethoscope so I’m trying to find a way around that. Thanks so much!
Yes, there is the capability of using a stethoscope, however, the low frequency beats usually require closing off the ear canal to hear. You may be able to accomplish this with a small vent on a MicroShell earmold.
@@DrCliffAuD What about using a stethoscope with the domes? fyi, your video's helped me make a truly educated decision about aids; AND my audiologist let me trade in my brand new More BTE for the Real BTE!
Thanks for the review. Does the choice between the minitRITE and MiniBTE depend on the hearing loss level, or is it more of a choice, that the MiniRITE has a thinner tube, and the receiver looks to be smaller? I can't tell much of a difference from the website's description, or the pictures of them. Thanks.
Thank you so much for all the info on your videos. I have been watching for awhile as I am in the search for new hearing aids. I am leaning towards these new Oticon Reals and desperately want to get rid of the batteries and of course hear better. My lowest hearing score is 60 and it just fits according to your charts. I wonder why no one (two technicians) do not do a hearing test once they set up your hearing aids. My tech has a someone loud and very clear voice so I cannot tell how the hearing aids are working in her office. What is the reason for not going back into the box and do a hearing test to make sure the hearing aids are doing a good job? I have two people that I cannot hear, a husband (and I know there is a joke there) and a grandson. They both have low tone voices.
I actually have the first ones my audi got in. I just lucked out and needed to replace my old Gen 1 Oticon Opens and walked in at the right time. Didn't even know these were out. I have had them for a little over 2 weeks now. I have to say the difference is absolutely stunning. I know there have been several updates from my old pair, but still, wow! The quality of speech recognition is so much better. Additionally I was sensitive to soft sharp sounds. Computer keyboards and dishes being put away were the worst. No issues at all now. The only question I have at this point is if the ConnectClip would work well on my Teams calls at work from my PC. Not cheap to find out. But yes, a happy, happy user here.
Hello Dr. Cliff: I've been enjoying your videos, and have liked and subscribed. They're very informative and detailed. However one very important thing (to me) that you don't cover is: How do these sound when listening to music ?? (not Streaming but listening to speakers in a high-quality home audio system)? Are they clear, clean and distortion-free doing that ? I have been wearing Phonak Audeo Paradise HAs fror the past 9 years, and with them enjoying my high-quality audio system - I hear full range (to 8Khz), clean and distortion-free with the HAs. I have heavy mid & HF loss, and the HAs bring back the midrange and treble in the music nicely and lets me continue to enjoy my music. But now they are starting to go bad, so I need to replace them. I understand that Widex Moments are highly regarded for music - but what about these Oticons? They interest me because I prefer a 312 battery, and it doesn't look like the Widex have that option. Thank you...
Thanks for your very informative detailed review! Will the sudden sound stabilizer feature help hearing conversations in noisy settings like restaurants/bars even though the deep neural network technology has not been upgraded?
I got Oticon Real from the VA replacing Oticon On’s. I previously had Oticon More’s. The biggest negative I have in the Reals is in a group of people and lots of talking noise. Just like the More’s… they amplify the noise and mute people close by and make it very difficult to understand them. Really bothersome
So they updated the model and rather than just make it a firmware update for the More, they priced it out as an entire new product? I think I’m just done with Oticon. No Bluetooth, no new features, same problems as before. Oh well. Thanks for the great videos! These are so helpful when shopping for new HAs and keeping up with the industry!
@@DrCliffAuD That's really interesting you say that as Oticon suggested to me that More was compatible with auracast with a firmware update. How much of the difference between bluetooth 5.0 and 5.2 is software protocols vs hardware?
@@DrCliffAuD you’re right, I meant a general Bluetooth protocol that can connect to standard devices. It’s disappointing to see Oticon just update their ML model and not just roll it out as a fw update.
Dear dr. Cliff. Thank you for this good video. I can really do something with this. I have 2 favorites, the Signia Silk 7 x and the Oticon Real 1 minirite T. I have significant hearing loss. My first choice goes for the Silk 7 because it is invisible and has good reviews. This video got me thinking...
I just turned 73. Ihave had near total hearing loss in my right ear nearly all of my life, I also have a lot of loss in my right ear. A few days ago I went to a dealer that has a few different makes of aids. After doing a hearing test he suggested the top of the line Odicon a d now I am trying the oticon real 1 but I am having trouble with the right one being intermittent and the soun vanishing and disconecting from bluetooth. It will be a few days before i will be able to talk with the guy who fitted my aids. I am still in my first week of wareing them. Do you have any sugestions ? These are my very first hearing aid in my life.
Thank you for sharing the review. Do you have video of Oticon Real MiniBTE. I have not seen one video of showing the miniBTE. I am thinking of purchase of real MiniBTE. I wanted to know is the hearing aid similar size to RIC? Is the tube smaller? This probably first time I''ll see the MiniBTE tube will have smaller tube unlike another other standard BTE
Cliff - I am in the UK. Flying to Phoenix for hearing aids seems a bit excessive which is a HUGH shame 😢. Can you open a branch in London ? Failing that, do you have a recommendation for a hearing aid specialist in the UK?
I really appreciate your videos, Thankyou. ?, these micoshell, how do I get them with the oticon real 1? Or can they be ordered separate and do they have to be professionally installed?
binaural squelch was also present on epoq XW, since then they had that feature. I think I have the white paper and Im almost 100% sure. But I believe now it is done in 4 channels and of course better detection etc. I believe there was a tweak with the alta pro or Agil. Yes I agree it's important. The white paper explains inter aural level differences and how this is also important feature for localization. Which is something you should have mention. Good video doc
Dr. Cliff: Please help me out. I live in Los Angeles area, and today I got a quote from a local audiologist for the Oticon Real 3 mRITE/mBTE for $4800 a pair. Upon returning home and did some online search for the price, I found the price is about $3200 a pair. I understand that the price depends on various factors, but could the "various factors" make a $1600 difference? Am I being scammed? Could iot be the online quote does not include something that the $4800 do? In other words, is it normal for a quote from an audiologist to be higher than any price online? Thank you for your time.
Thanks for the very informative video. I am testing the More 2 now and my main concern is that background noise in restaurants , hockey rinks etc makes it very difficult to hear speech. .I am prepared to go to the Real 1 or 2 ,will either of these help with some control of background noise ? Will Real 1 be qualitatively better than Real 2 ? can this problem will dealt with by skillful programming Or are there other brands which are better for background noise ? Thanks for this
Did you decide to go with the Oticon Real hearing aids? If so, which model did you go with? How do you like it compared to More 2? I am currently trying out Oticon More 2 and I have some issues with it, mainly, the robotic, unnatural sounds coming from it. My previous hearing aids were Oticon Opn 1 and I absolutely LOVE the way these hearing aids sounded. They were by far the most realistic sounding hearing aids I've ever worn. (I've been wearing hearing aids since I was 3 years old. I'm now 57). Thank you in advance!!
Thank you for the video. Could anyone advise on adjusting the beep volume on the Oticon Real 1? When I change programs, the beeps are very loud and can be heard by those nearby. Unfortunately, my audiologist hasn’t been able to reduce their volume.
Hello, just ordered the real version with replaceable batteries. I have ringing in the ears and thought I could wear them longer. I’m a white mail and got the dark grey because I liked the look. Now I’m wondering if I should of gotten more skin color. Is the battery ones as good?
Hello Dr. Cliff. In your opinion would I be better off with Phonak Lumity or Oticon Real? One of my ears has high frequency loss and the other ear has low frequency loss. And I have an Android phone which doesn't sound as compatible with Oticon as Apple.
I find it really interesting that you rate Oticon highly for achieving high-frequency gain. This isn't something they've been known for in the past due to substandard feedback management. I'm guessing all the additional gain handles in the high-frequencies and new feedback management technology has made a difference. I really wanted to hear more about their impulse noise reduction as their whitepaper promised much better performance than competitors and for people working in trades it can be the difference between hearing aids being worn or not. If you could a demo of this, it'd be appreciated.
The High Frequency amplification has been good since the More hearing aids. Nothing to do with extra gain handles. I've been able to measure this consistently with Real Ear Measurement. The SuddenSound stabilizer seems to be very similar to other impulse noise reduction programs I've tested.
I have the Oticon Real and have severe hearing loss in 1 ear so I only wear 1 on my left ear. Hearing is perfect in my right ear. I was wondering if anyone has any issues with background noise. The scenario I'm describing is when I'm sitting in a restaurant and I'm trying to talk to the person in front of me, but it feels like it's picking up so much noise that I have trouble interpreting speech. 2nd scenario is if I'm in a grocery store and it's picking up a lot of noise as well. Even turning up the volume the background noise will just drown out any speech.
I definitely have those issues. When in a restaurant and I don’t have hearing aids on I can not hear anyone to the right of me and those to the left sometimes are a jumble if it’s really noisy. Just got my Real so I’m working on this issue. I can’t go to the coffee shop because all I hear is a loud whooshing sound from the coffee machines. ☹️the first time in a restaurant with the hearing aid did not go well. All I was getting was a lot of background noise. Hoping to adjust the 5hing so this proves. Honestly, I’m kind of disappointed. I was hoping for a life changing improvement.
Yup. Safe to say I will be returning my hearing aid. I also wear one in my left ear, I struggle to hear and it understand people who talk to me, I have so much feedback and noise coming in I’d rather just not wear it. Even with the speech enhancement mode turned on.
Hi Doc- Enjoy the information that you provide. Very Helpful. On your comments about costs of the HA's. Maybe you can just provide a cost of the units alone. At lease then we as consumers have a base price. Thx- MrBob
Thanks for another great review. Quick question... How can one tell if a new hearing aid IS forward compatible with Auracast? Getting ready to start looking for a new pair and might be nice to consider ones that are future compatible, if they're starting tho make their way onto the market...just not sure what specs to keep an eye out for that would indicate that? Thanks for any intel!
I really enjoyed the video on Oticon Real - including the geek elements as I am a retired physicist. The Spatial Noise Management Feature (binaural squelch) must mean the hearing aids communicate with each other. I use a CROS. Does that feature work with a CROS where the one "good" hearing aid must process both inputs?
I have the miniRITE and i despise the sound stabilizer to the core of my being. It's only been two weeks, but talking too loudly or enthusiastically causes an awful glitch sound because it's trying to flatten the levels. Listening to music makes everything sound flat, or wildly oscillate because it's trying so hard to compensate. Being in a noisy bar was actual torture because the hearing aids essentially freaked out
Yes it is. I have the Oticon Real 1 miniRITE R along with the Oticon CROS PX miniRITE R. I'm profoundly deaf on the right side and now I can hear people to my right speaking to me.
Got my Oticon More through USVA. Loved them for 1st four months, but hardly use them now. Was tired of tech and maintenance. Frankly, they are not comfortable. Am i respecting too much?
Actually the old style Phonak domes, which are soft and a thinner material compared to Oticon domes, fits fine on the Oticon speakers. Newer phonak domes are a different story haha
You mention deep neural network. What if you no longer have an auditory nerve on one side---(from a previous acoustic neuroma). Would this new neural network processing be of benefit to BICROS Oticon users (if it is even available in BICROS)?
Oticon CROS is available for use with Oticon More at certain technology levels. I don't know about Oticon Real compatibility. Talk to your local hearing care provider.
I wonder if that wind filtering feature would help with the problem I have indoors -- every time the A/C kicks on, I can't hear anything else. So annoying!
Hi Dr Cliff, I'm trying to get a new Oticon hearing aid. Would the health care insurance give you top quality aids? Or do I have to settle for what I can get?
I know with United Healthcare Insurance, they only pay for Level 2 or 3 Oticon hearing aids. If you choose Tier 1 hearing aids, you have to pay for it out of your own pocket. That's what I had to do with my Opn 1 hearing aids. I'm currently trying out the Oticon More 2 so I can take advantage of the insurance. However, it seems like the sound quality isn't as good as the Tier 1 levels. I may try out the Oticon Real hearing aids and see if there's a difference between the More and Real models. Good luck!
Not sure if mine is defective or if they’re all like this but I struggle to hear and or understand what people are saying most of the time. Being that the microphones are behind the ear, they really only pick up the sound that’s really loud or behind me well, even with the speech enhancement mode turned on. If someone is standing next to or behind me I can usually hear them but if they’re in front of me it’s very difficult. I also get a TREMENDOUS amount of feedback and background noise that just makes me rather not wear a hearing aid and to top it off it always sounds like a tin can. I can barely hear my phone calls or music, even with the microphones turned off and my media volume all the way up in my iPhone, the low mid high frequency decibel controls in the app are useless because they don’t change anything. My opinion on this hearing aid is that it’s inconsistent and for $3400 I would expect the sound quality to at least be up to par with an apple air pod. Not to mention it is incredibly uncomfortable to wear with glasses. I will be returning this hearing aid and going with an in the ear model that will work better with my glasses and hopefully perform better. I have mild to severe hearing loss in my left ear and suffer from tinnitus. I wear one hearing aid, in my left ear. Anyone with similar results or experiences?
I tried them for single side hearing loss. Indeed the quality is appalling: could not understand people in noisy environments. And noise cancellation did not seem to work at all. Returned them after the trial period.
Is it possible to connect my Oticon Ruby 1 miniRITE hearing aids to two devices simultaneously? For example, my iPhone & my iPad? Or do I need to disconnect them from the iPhone before connecting to the iPad?
It appears that you will have to connect and disconnect which in itself is a dealbreaker for me. Unless of course you buy the streamer. Apple has the settings to have the HAs connect to both the iPhone and iPad but it seems these hearing aids are not compatible with this technology.
What brand of hearing aid or hearing aids give the best wind noise control? the hearing aids I have now do not do a very good job And looking for a better brand that does control wind noise.
@@DrCliffAuD Starkey sucks actually, widex is actually the number one for musicians, especially being that not only do they have the best input dynamic range but the best frequency bandwidth as well
This is a comment on a different hearing aid. My sister’s audiologist didn’t ask what brand phone or watch she has. She has new Apple Watch and phone. The audiologist talked her into the phonak paradise hearing aids.. they will not pair through her accessibility in settings. By reading I told her most the brands tru hearing in her insurance works with are made to work with Apple phones except phonak. I’m not even sure the phonak will pair with an Apple Watch. The phonak uses a different kind of Bluetooth. It will pair to her phone but she has problems with the phonak app .
How do the Oticon Real 1's compare with the relatively new ReSound Custom ITC's, particularly technology wise? I'm researching my first hearing aids. Thanks!
I only sell RITC because an ITC causes a hearing loss in and of itself by physically blocking your ear canal. The RITC uses domes which allow natural as well as amplified sound into your ear so less occlusion and better clarity. The new REAL has faster ''Attack and Release '' times which makes listening in background noise less tiresome. When you have a hearing loss, less tiresome is much better.
@@iainnorquay5371 um it's been proven that in the ear hearing aids wouldn't cause hearing loss that doesn't make any sense because they're pretty smart you're forgetting tech has evolved over the many many many years since hearing aids were invented
Both are very modern hearing aids that are impressive in their own ways. If you're debating between the two, I typically recommend you go with the one that your provider is better with.
Wow. I liked it but so expensive here in Sydney, Australia the Oticon Real 1 worth $8,000 pair for delivery only w/o reprogramming. $10,000 in store hearing aid including Audiologist, cleaning, fitting earmold & 3 yrs warranty only. Too expensive for me. I will wait this after 1-2yrs to buy just a little used / like new so it will be cheaper in buying online international. I just bought now the More 1 pair for $1,240 AUD from Ukraine & I have to wait for 5 weeks to deliver. 😊
The Oticon Terms and Conditions of Sale Article 2 Prices :"The parties agree that it is not their intent that any payments made under the Sales Agreement be in return for the the purchasing or ordering of any products or services other than the specific Products or services described in the Sales Agreement." Bundling services by an audiologist with the price of the hearing aid appears to be counter to this policy.
Testing Oticon Real 1 with Cros transmitter at the moment. Not impressed at all: noise handling from the Cros transmitter just does not work. Will return them after the test.
I’m torn between Phonak Lumity 90 Life and Oticon Real 1. I love streaming a lot. I hear Oticon is very good with streaming and Phonak losses connection a lot. Debates!!!
One of the features you never address is the excellent quality of the sound, especially music, when listening from my phone on Oticon On and More hearing aids. I can't compare it to other brands. Maybe you can?
My experience with Oticon More and Real. I first got the More version about 6 weeks ago, I have had 3 different pairs of these, and have to say that I have to re pair them with my Samsung s23ultra which I was told before I bought this phone would be compatible from Oticon, my last change was to the Oticon Real version , these I've had for 3/4 days , and to date perform no better having to re pair them several times a day!!!
@@iamcrownvetch hi, I paid almost €7000 for them including a TV box and a drying thing which I put them in every night, to be fair they are performing much better since an update from Samsung to the phone and the latest visit to shop who have been extremely helpful, but from past experience I feel it's too early to say wether the problems have finally gone away ! lol
@@tonywilkes1781 my audiologist want to charge me 7200 dollars. I wanted to know if this is a fair price. Otherwise I will choose under 2000 one in Costco. I wish someone can tell me how big of difference between them.
@@iamcrownvetch They are slowly improving the connectivity on them from the shop , the factory and an upgrade from Samsung , as for the sound quality I have to say they are far superior to an older model of Phonax that I have except these do not connect WiFi which is the reason for spending the extra on the Oticon ones
I'd suggest that people pass on the Oticon Real. I bought a set of Real 2s six months ago, and one of them just started triple-blinking in the charger. This means "System error" which means "You don't get to hear anymore". This is absolutely rage-inducing given how incredibly expensive these things are. I'm so angry about this.
Please, please, add some more 'rest' moments in your videos. All the sentences seem to be stuck together. Incredibly tiring! I already have bad hearing and English is not my mother tongue. And it's not a contest where you have to fire off as many words as possible in a minute.
Sorry, I have a naturally fast rate of speech. An easy trick is to slow down the playback speed on TH-cam. This will make all videos easier to understand.
That's a good tip! Playing videos at a slightly slower speed also works well with other You-Tube videos and channels. I myself am severely hearing impaired and benefit from it. Good luck with these excellent videos! Greetings from the Netherlands. @@DrCliffAuD
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Since there are three version of the Oticon Real, I think a video on what each level does would be of interest to those deciding which model to buy.
Thank you for the excellent videos on your site. I am on Day 2 with the Oticon Real 1's. They are making a dramatic difference with word clarity, and I can't believe just how much I was not hearing before.
I'm being fitted for mine tomorrow! First time hearing aids purchase and have been listening to and watching your videos for a couple of months now. You've helped me quite a bit in questions to ask and my doctor and she watches your videos as well. I'm looking forward to seeing oops hearing them in real world application. I'm going to ask her about that custom ear mold as well. Thanks again Dr. Cliff
Hey! Which ones did you get? I had my first consultation today and I kinda fell in love with oricon more1.
How did it go, Dave?
I appreciate you bringing in the “geek” and the personal trial-ing of these! It’s been the most helpful video by far. It seems like most videos on hearing aids is just repeating the manufacturer’s brochure wording … which helps exactly no one! Lol, thank you doc!
Thanks very much for the review! Your videos have been extremely helpful to me.
I'm a first-time hearing aid user with mild High-Frequency hearing loss. I recently completed around 30 days of a trial with the More 1. I'm now on day 9 of a trial of the Real 1. My audiologist follows Best Practices and uses Real Ear Measurement.
Concerning the new features of the Real 1:
- Very surprisingly, handling is more sensitive with the Real 1 causing me to hear more static, which is triggered more easily in both the right and left hearing aids. I take my glasses off and on many times throughout the day, which is one reason I notice this. For me, the new handling feature clearly does not work at all. I wonder if the handling feature is perhaps not turned on. I've informed my audiologist about this problem, but since her practice does not allow remote changes, she'll have to check this out when I next see her in 2 weeks.
- In my limited exposure to wind conditions, I was easily able to carry on a conversation outside without being bothered by wind noise. I believe this is an improvement over the More 1, but I really can't say for sure. I don't know if this is related, but from inside the house, I seem to hear more of the outside wind and rustling tree noise than with the More 1.
- So far, I can't tell if the Sudden Noise reduction feature is working or not. I think I would have to do a side-by-side comparison to know.
All that said, I really like both the More 1 and Real 1. The improved sounds I hear with both are very natural.
Glad to hear you are having good results with your hearing aids. I’m trialing the More 1right now and I am wondering if it is worth upgrading it to the Real 1? Did you notice an improvement with clarity? I would appreciate any input you could provide.
@@sandyscott2150 Hi Sandy. For me, I'm planning to go with the Real 1 even though there's an increased cost of $220 ($80 because Oticon raised their prices plus $140 for the Real 1 fitting fee). One reason that influenced me is because the Real 1 has the latest technology. And although the Real 1 improved handling feature is not currently working for me, I think that can be corrected. Also, I feel like the Sudden Noise is reduced a bit and wind handling seems better. To verify, I wish I could do a side-by-side comparison of the new features, but I trust that those new features are an actual improvement and not my imagination.
As for improved clarity, I believe the Real 1 has better clarity than the More 1 overall, but that could very well be due to some minor tweaking that my audiologist did when I went from the More 1 to the Real 1.
By far the biggest change that I noticed with the Real 1 is that I'm clearly hearing more sounds, but again, that's probably as a result of the minor tweaks my audiologist made. At first, it was like the first time I put on hearing aids, but I quickly adapted after a couple of days. Overall, I believe I hear better with the Real 1 and I like the clarity of more sounds, which sound very natural.
I don't think you can go wrong with either the More 1 or Real 1. If the Real 1 wasn't available, I would have bought the More 1.
I hope this helps!
@@barney9997 Yes, it helps. Thank you very much for the detailed description! I think I’m leaning toward the Real 1 even though it’s going to be a hassle to return the others.
@@sandyscott2150 You're very welcome. Sorry to hear returning the More 1 will be a hassle for you. I guess I'm very fortunate that my audiologist made it completely hassle-free to switch from the More 1 to the Real 1.
Today for the first time I wore the Real 1 while playing pickleball outdoors in fairly windy conditions. They performed really well. Very natural with great clarity. I didn't really even hear the wind, even though the wind was greatly affecting the pickleball. At worst the wind was very, very minimal background noise, if I heard it at all. Also, I thought the loud (some say obnoxious) sound of the pickleball hitting the paddle would be heightened, but that wasn't the case at all. The sounds all seemed proportionately correct, natural, and very clear. I was very impressed.
Getting hearing aids for the first time. 59 years old. Mild to moderate hearing loss. Tilted heavily toward loss at high frequency. Going to an audiologist for advice, purchase and all around assistance. Question: Generally is it better to get newest model ( example Oticon Real ) at lowest level offered OR lower model ( Ex Oticon Zircon 1 ) at highest level. Probably not as simple as that I realize but wondered what you might say. Sean O'D
It has been several years since I got my Oticon Agil Pro HAs and they have worked well for me. On this I noticed with the Oticon Streamer is it is not Stereo. There is no separation to one ear or the other when I stream to the HAs by Bluetooth through the Streamer. I proved this by streaming from a WEB site which tests for this. I found the Phonak Paradise Life versions did provide stereo separation, but found the sound would drift over time to one side. I would like to know if the new Oticon Real and the Phonak Lumity provide stereo and don't have drifting to one side issues. This was very evident when listening to streamed audio books.
Thank you very much for providing a great TH-cam learning site!!!
So grateful for being educated by you.
Thanks Cliff. The Real gives me hope for my future devices. I ride bikes a lot, usually 3 plus times a week. I listen to music streaming through my current Oticons when riding but the wind noise often forces me to mute aids which makes it difficult when meeting another person on the trail. AND of course I have an Android so location of my phone on my person and "talking to Google" for commands is an ongoing struggle.
I tried these out in the audiologist's office, but not in a noisy environment or outside. The difference in my hearing was instantly noticeable. But, I still haven't committed to buying them because $6,000.00 a pair is so expensive. I was floored by the price. Now I'm wondering if it's worth trying something less expensive first. This is a very frustrating product to research and shop.
I am also discovering the very high prices of such devices, after all apart from miniaturization there is nothing technologically outstanding in hearing aids.
I feel very frustrated by the possible high mark up these manufacturers , shame on them.
Can't get nerdy enough for me. I love the Real 1s. Really happy with them. I can also identify the slight sound artefact sometimes. I think it's when the chip doesn't really know what to do so it starts to modulate. Anyway. Really good video. Stay nerdy 🤓
I had the pleasure to meet you, You happen to be Sitted next to me with your lovely wife during the AAA last year. You are a real nice person, and I had a lovely chat doc. Keep up the good work
I had Signia Stilettos for a 45 day trial and I liked that I could touch them and hear the scratching noise, that way I new they were actually on.
Both my current and previous hearing aids do this and I find it really helpful! Even if it’s possible to fix this with more technology I wouldn’t want to.
You actually liked hearing the scratching noise? 🙀
@@meric12131415 yes
It was a little awkward wearing glasses with them though. I guess others have that experience too.
@@freevin51 🤣 oh yeah I can definitely imagine I'd imagine you had thick glasses
I'll be getting the Oticon Real next month. I'm looking forward to see how it works.
Hey Dr Cliff! Love your videos! Question: would the custom ear mold that is available with the Oticon Real aids allow for a stethoscope to be used? I’m a nurse and typically have to take my aids out to use a stethoscope so I’m trying to find a way around that. Thanks so much!
Yes, there is the capability of using a stethoscope, however, the low frequency beats usually require closing off the ear canal to hear. You may be able to accomplish this with a small vent on a MicroShell earmold.
@@DrCliffAuD What about using a stethoscope with the domes? fyi, your video's helped me make a truly educated decision about aids; AND my audiologist let me trade in my brand new More BTE for the Real BTE!
Thanks for the review. Does the choice between the minitRITE and MiniBTE depend on the hearing loss level, or is it more of a choice, that the MiniRITE has a thinner tube, and the receiver looks to be smaller? I can't tell much of a difference from the website's description, or the pictures of them. Thanks.
Thank you so much for all the info on your videos. I have been watching for awhile as I am in the search for new hearing aids. I am leaning towards these new Oticon Reals and desperately want to get rid of the batteries and of course hear better. My lowest hearing score is 60 and it just fits according to your charts. I wonder why no one (two technicians) do not do a hearing test once they set up your hearing aids. My tech has a someone loud and very clear voice so I cannot tell how the hearing aids are working in her office. What is the reason for not going back into the box and do a hearing test to make sure the hearing aids are doing a good job? I have two people that I cannot hear, a husband (and I know there is a joke there) and a grandson. They both have low tone voices.
I actually have the first ones my audi got in. I just lucked out and needed to replace my old Gen 1 Oticon Opens and walked in at the right time. Didn't even know these were out. I have had them for a little over 2 weeks now. I have to say the difference is absolutely stunning. I know there have been several updates from my old pair, but still, wow! The quality of speech recognition is so much better. Additionally I was sensitive to soft sharp sounds. Computer keyboards and dishes being put away were the worst. No issues at all now. The only question I have at this point is if the ConnectClip would work well on my Teams calls at work from my PC. Not cheap to find out. But yes, a happy, happy user here.
Yes, the ConnectClips should give you 2-way audio access to Teams calls on a PC.
@@DrCliffAuD Thanks Doc!
What is the price? Thanks
So do they sound better than the More 1 and are they worth an upgrade?
They both sound good. It really depends on if you want the new features I mentioned in the video.
In Ontario at hearlife Canada the real tier 1 is 3200, tier 2 2800, tier 3 2100. As of December 11, 2023. All include 3 year warranty and audio care.
Are those prices for the pair or for each aid individually? thanks.
I got to wait about 2 weeks until i get my Real 2s, last hearing aids were starkey X series 70 from 2011! So....... cannot wait!!
Hello Dr. Cliff:
I've been enjoying your videos, and have liked and subscribed. They're very informative and detailed.
However one very important thing (to me) that you don't cover is:
How do these sound when listening to music ??
(not Streaming but listening to speakers in a high-quality home audio system)? Are they clear, clean and distortion-free doing that ?
I have been wearing Phonak Audeo Paradise HAs fror the past 9 years, and with them enjoying my high-quality audio system - I hear full range (to 8Khz), clean and distortion-free with the HAs. I have heavy mid & HF loss, and the HAs bring back the midrange and treble in the music nicely and lets me continue to enjoy my music.
But now they are starting to go bad, so I need to replace them. I understand that Widex Moments are highly regarded for music - but what about these Oticons? They interest me because I prefer a 312 battery, and it doesn't look like the Widex have that option.
Thank you...
Thanks for your very informative detailed review! Will the sudden sound stabilizer feature help hearing conversations in noisy settings like restaurants/bars even though the deep neural network technology has not been upgraded?
I have the Real 1 and had More 1 and I think they definitely improve hearing in noisy settings.
No, the SuddenSound Stabilizer would help reduce impulse noises, but not help you understand speech better in noise.
Cool to hear about the manual handling thing
Dr. Cliff,
Wow, so much knowledge! Thank you so much for your energetic and informative videos!👏🏽
I got Oticon Real from the VA replacing Oticon On’s. I previously had Oticon More’s. The biggest negative I have in the Reals is in a group of people and lots of talking noise. Just like the More’s… they amplify the noise and mute people close by and make it very difficult to understand them. Really bothersome
So they updated the model and rather than just make it a firmware update for the More, they priced it out as an entire new product? I think I’m just done with Oticon. No Bluetooth, no new features, same problems as before. Oh well.
Thanks for the great videos! These are so helpful when shopping for new HAs and keeping up with the industry!
Just for clarity, they do have Bluetooth just not an Auracast forward compatible Bluetooth v 5.2
@@DrCliffAuD That's really interesting you say that as Oticon suggested to me that More was compatible with auracast with a firmware update. How much of the difference between bluetooth 5.0 and 5.2 is software protocols vs hardware?
@@christopherradford1320 I'm hoping to speak with someone from the Bluetooth SIG to get this definitely answered.
I agree - this should have been more of a firmware update rather than a new product.
@@DrCliffAuD you’re right, I meant a general Bluetooth protocol that can connect to standard devices. It’s disappointing to see Oticon just update their ML model and not just roll it out as a fw update.
Dear dr. Cliff. Thank you for this good video. I can really do something with this.
I have 2 favorites, the Signia Silk 7 x and the Oticon Real 1 minirite T.
I have significant hearing loss. My first choice goes for the Silk 7 because it is invisible and has good reviews.
This video got me thinking...
I just turned 73. Ihave had near total hearing loss in my right ear nearly all of my life, I also have a lot of loss in my right ear. A few days ago I went to a dealer that has a few different makes of aids. After doing a hearing test he suggested the top of the line Odicon a d now I am trying the oticon real 1 but I am having trouble with the right one being intermittent and the soun vanishing and disconecting from bluetooth. It will be a few days before i will be able to talk with the guy who fitted my aids. I am still in my first week of wareing them. Do you have any sugestions ? These are my very first hearing aid in my life.
Thank you for sharing the review. Do you have video of Oticon Real MiniBTE. I have not seen one video of showing the miniBTE. I am thinking of purchase of real MiniBTE. I wanted to know is the hearing aid similar size to RIC? Is the tube smaller? This probably first time I''ll see the MiniBTE tube will have smaller tube unlike another other standard BTE
Cliff - I am in the UK. Flying to Phoenix for hearing aids seems a bit excessive which is a HUGH shame 😢. Can you open a branch in London ? Failing that, do you have a recommendation for a hearing aid specialist in the UK?
I really appreciate your videos, Thankyou. ?, these micoshell, how do I get them with the oticon real 1? Or can they be ordered separate and do they have to be professionally installed?
binaural squelch was also present on epoq XW, since then they had that feature. I think I have the white paper and Im almost 100% sure. But I believe now it is done in 4 channels and of course better detection etc. I believe there was a tweak with the alta pro or Agil. Yes I agree it's important. The white paper explains inter aural level differences and how this is also important feature for localization. Which is something you should have mention. Good video doc
Dr. Cliff: Please help me out. I live in Los Angeles area, and today I got a quote from a local audiologist for the Oticon Real 3 mRITE/mBTE for $4800 a pair. Upon returning home and did some online search for the price, I found the price is about $3200 a pair. I understand that the price depends on various factors, but could the "various factors" make a $1600 difference?
Am I being scammed? Could iot be the online quote does not include something that the $4800 do? In other words, is it normal for a quote from an audiologist to be higher than any price online? Thank you for your time.
Thanks for the very informative video. I am testing the More 2 now and my main concern is that background noise in restaurants , hockey rinks etc makes it very difficult to hear speech. .I am prepared to go to the Real 1 or 2 ,will either of these help with some control of background noise ? Will Real 1 be qualitatively better than Real 2 ? can this problem will dealt with by skillful programming Or are there other brands which are better for background noise ? Thanks for this
Did you decide to go with the Oticon Real hearing aids? If so, which model did you go with? How do you like it compared to More 2? I am currently trying out Oticon More 2 and I have some issues with it, mainly, the robotic, unnatural sounds coming from it. My previous hearing aids were Oticon Opn 1 and I absolutely LOVE the way these hearing aids sounded. They were by far the most realistic sounding hearing aids I've ever worn. (I've been wearing hearing aids since I was 3 years old. I'm now 57). Thank you in advance!!
Thank you for the video. Could anyone advise on adjusting the beep volume on the Oticon Real 1? When I change programs, the beeps are very loud and can be heard by those nearby. Unfortunately, my audiologist hasn’t been able to reduce their volume.
Hello, just ordered the real version with replaceable batteries. I have ringing in the ears and thought I could wear them longer. I’m a white mail and got the dark grey because I liked the look. Now I’m wondering if I should of gotten more skin color. Is the battery ones as good?
Hello Dr. Cliff. In your opinion would I be better off with Phonak Lumity or Oticon Real? One of my ears has high frequency loss and the other ear has low frequency loss. And I have an Android phone which doesn't sound as compatible with Oticon as Apple.
I find it really interesting that you rate Oticon highly for achieving high-frequency gain. This isn't something they've been known for in the past due to substandard feedback management. I'm guessing all the additional gain handles in the high-frequencies and new feedback management technology has made a difference. I really wanted to hear more about their impulse noise reduction as their whitepaper promised much better performance than competitors and for people working in trades it can be the difference between hearing aids being worn or not. If you could a demo of this, it'd be appreciated.
The High Frequency amplification has been good since the More hearing aids. Nothing to do with extra gain handles. I've been able to measure this consistently with Real Ear Measurement. The SuddenSound stabilizer seems to be very similar to other impulse noise reduction programs I've tested.
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I have the OPN S1 for a few years now. Will the charger for those also charge these hearing aids?
I have the Oticon Real and have severe hearing loss in 1 ear so I only wear 1 on my left ear. Hearing is perfect in my right ear. I was wondering if anyone has any issues with background noise. The scenario I'm describing is when I'm sitting in a restaurant and I'm trying to talk to the person in front of me, but it feels like it's picking up so much noise that I have trouble interpreting speech. 2nd scenario is if I'm in a grocery store and it's picking up a lot of noise as well. Even turning up the volume the background noise will just drown out any speech.
I definitely have those issues. When in a restaurant and I don’t have hearing aids on I can not hear anyone to the right of me and those to the left sometimes are a jumble if it’s really noisy. Just got my Real so I’m working on this issue. I can’t go to the coffee shop because all I hear is a loud whooshing sound from the coffee machines. ☹️the first time in a restaurant with the hearing aid did not go well. All I was getting was a lot of background noise. Hoping to adjust the 5hing so this proves. Honestly, I’m kind of disappointed. I was hoping for a life changing improvement.
Yup. Safe to say I will be returning my hearing aid. I also wear one in my left ear, I struggle to hear and it understand people who talk to me, I have so much feedback and noise coming in I’d rather just not wear it. Even with the speech enhancement mode turned on.
Also I can barely hear my phone calls or music through the Bluetooth connection, with the volume all the way up
Hi Doc- Enjoy the information that you provide. Very Helpful. On your comments about costs of the HA's. Maybe you can just provide a cost of the units alone. At lease then we as consumers have a base price. Thx- MrBob
Thanks for another great review. Quick question... How can one tell if a new hearing aid IS forward compatible with Auracast? Getting ready to start looking for a new pair and might be nice to consider ones that are future compatible, if they're starting tho make their way onto the market...just not sure what specs to keep an eye out for that would indicate that? Thanks for any intel!
Bluetooth version 5.2 or newer.
I really enjoyed the video on Oticon Real - including the geek elements as I am a retired physicist. The Spatial Noise Management Feature (binaural squelch) must mean the hearing aids communicate with each other. I use a CROS. Does that feature work with a CROS where the one "good" hearing aid must process both inputs?
I have the miniRITE and i despise the sound stabilizer to the core of my being. It's only been two weeks, but talking too loudly or enthusiastically causes an awful glitch sound because it's trying to flatten the levels. Listening to music makes everything sound flat, or wildly oscillate because it's trying so hard to compensate. Being in a noisy bar was actual torture because the hearing aids essentially freaked out
thank you. Just received the Oticon Real. Doesn’t fit well perhaps I need to see about micro shell custom
fits.
Is the new Companion App backward compatible with the Oticon More 1?
Hello, Doctor! Thank you for your vídeo. May I ask you if Oticon Real is compatible with CROS?
Yes it is. I have the Oticon Real 1 miniRITE R along with the Oticon CROS PX miniRITE R. I'm profoundly deaf on the right side and now I can hear people to my right speaking to me.
Got my Oticon More through USVA. Loved them for 1st four months, but hardly use them now. Was tired of tech and maintenance. Frankly, they are not comfortable. Am i respecting too much?
Is the general hearing on the Real 1 as good as the general hearing on the More 1?Thanks for your help.
This is a comparison of the More and the Real models.
I was hoping to see a comparison of the Real 1. 2, and 3 models.
Actually the old style Phonak domes, which are soft and a thinner material compared to Oticon domes, fits fine on the Oticon speakers. Newer phonak domes are a different story haha
Please tell me which hearing aids are batter Resound omnia 9 or Oticon real 1 for university students
You mention deep neural network. What if you no longer have an auditory nerve on one side---(from a previous acoustic neuroma). Would this new neural network processing be of benefit to BICROS Oticon users (if it is even available in BICROS)?
I'm sure it's possible
Oticon CROS is available for use with Oticon More at certain technology levels. I don't know about Oticon Real compatibility. Talk to your local hearing care provider.
@@christopherradford1320 cool 😁
I wonder if that wind filtering feature would help with the problem I have indoors -- every time the A/C kicks on, I can't hear anything else. So annoying!
I took your advice and found Evolution Hearing. Which closed up shop without a word. So what do I do now?
My Oticon real 1 plus an Oticon transmitter for other ear was $7600. Luckily my ins paid 70%. I’m in San Diego where everything is expensive
Hi Dr Cliff, I'm trying to get a new Oticon hearing aid. Would the health care insurance give you top quality aids? Or do I have to settle for what I can get?
I know with United Healthcare Insurance, they only pay for Level 2 or 3 Oticon hearing aids. If you choose Tier 1 hearing aids, you have to pay for it out of your own pocket. That's what I had to do with my Opn 1 hearing aids. I'm currently trying out the Oticon More 2 so I can take advantage of the insurance. However, it seems like the sound quality isn't as good as the Tier 1 levels. I may try out the Oticon Real hearing aids and see if there's a difference between the More and Real models. Good luck!
Not sure if mine is defective or if they’re all like this but I struggle to hear and or understand what people are saying most of the time. Being that the microphones are behind the ear, they really only pick up the sound that’s really loud or behind me well, even with the speech enhancement mode turned on. If someone is standing next to or behind me I can usually hear them but if they’re in front of me it’s very difficult. I also get a TREMENDOUS amount of feedback and background noise that just makes me rather not wear a hearing aid and to top it off it always sounds like a tin can. I can barely hear my phone calls or music, even with the microphones turned off and my media volume all the way up in my iPhone, the low mid high frequency decibel controls in the app are useless because they don’t change anything. My opinion on this hearing aid is that it’s inconsistent and for $3400 I would expect the sound quality to at least be up to par with an apple air pod. Not to mention it is incredibly uncomfortable to wear with glasses. I will be returning this hearing aid and going with an in the ear model that will work better with my glasses and hopefully perform better.
I have mild to severe hearing loss in my left ear and suffer from tinnitus. I wear one hearing aid, in my left ear.
Anyone with similar results or experiences?
I tried them for single side hearing loss. Indeed the quality is appalling: could not understand people in noisy environments. And noise cancellation did not seem to work at all.
Returned them after the trial period.
do the oticon hearing aids work for reverse slope?
Is it possible to connect my Oticon Ruby 1 miniRITE hearing aids to two devices simultaneously? For example, my iPhone & my iPad? Or do I need to disconnect them from the iPhone before connecting to the iPad?
It appears that you will have to connect and disconnect which in itself is a dealbreaker for me. Unless of course you buy the streamer. Apple has the settings to have the HAs connect to both the iPhone and iPad but it seems these hearing aids are not compatible with this technology.
hi guys, can i allow my hearing deafness to use this OTICON REAL hearing aid and in severe to profound hearing loss? please answer me!
Yes, you can use a very powerful receiver on an Oticon Real hearing aid for Profound levels of hearing loss.
What brand of hearing aid or hearing aids give the best wind noise control? the hearing aids I have now do not do a very good job And looking for a better brand that does control wind noise.
I have Rexton hearing aids from Costco and they hardly ever have wind noise. Neither did the previous Kirkland (Costco brand) ones I had.
Which ones do you have?
How do i receive a good hearing aid
Is the Real compatible with the CROS PX and/or do you think there will be a new CROS coming out (in matching olive green)?
Yes it is compatible, however, I doubt they will have a matching olive color any time soon.
how do i know which hearing aid i am getting as there are 3 real OTICON models
I am testing out the Oticon REal and notice quite significant handling noise - my hair rubbing on them, my hat rubbing on them while walking.
What do you think of the oticon xceed
OKAY, Dr. Cliff,
I liked your video and subscribed.
Is better than more1?
Are these over the counter or do you need a prescription?
These require a propper fitting (prescription)
They are prescription only.
@@DrCliffAuD thank you
Prescription of course
Oticon has decided not to enter the OTC market.
Thanks for video, do u know best hearing aid for classical guitar musicians thx.
Oticon, Starkey, Widex. All have good input dynamic range.
@@DrCliffAuD Starkey sucks actually, widex is actually the number one for musicians, especially being that not only do they have the best input dynamic range but the best frequency bandwidth as well
Can you please review the Philips Hear?? Compare to Oticon please?
Hang on Philips still makes hearing aids?
Costco sells Philips Hearlink 9030.
@@sandiemfromcalif8455 really? That's cool
The Philips product in Costco is made by Oticon. Oticon have purchased the rights to use the Philips brand. It is the same product as the Oticon More
@@abala0 are they?
This is a comment on a different hearing aid. My sister’s audiologist didn’t ask what brand phone or watch she has. She has new Apple Watch and phone. The audiologist talked her into the phonak paradise hearing aids.. they will not pair through her accessibility in settings. By reading I told her most the brands tru hearing in her insurance works with are made to work with Apple phones except phonak. I’m not even sure the phonak will pair with an Apple Watch. The phonak uses a different kind of Bluetooth. It will pair to her phone but she has problems with the phonak app .
How do the Oticon Real 1's compare with the relatively new ReSound Custom ITC's, particularly technology wise? I'm researching my first hearing aids. Thanks!
I only sell RITC because an ITC causes a hearing loss in and of itself by physically blocking your ear canal. The RITC uses domes which allow natural as well as amplified sound into your ear so less occlusion and better clarity. The new REAL has faster ''Attack and Release '' times which makes listening in background noise less tiresome. When you have a hearing loss, less tiresome is much better.
@@iainnorquay5371 um it's been proven that in the ear hearing aids wouldn't cause hearing loss that doesn't make any sense because they're pretty smart you're forgetting tech has evolved over the many many many years since hearing aids were invented
Both are very modern hearing aids that are impressive in their own ways. If you're debating between the two, I typically recommend you go with the one that your provider is better with.
@@DrCliffAuD I might just second that one plus I'll add to that it's best to do your own research as well
What’s the best new hearing aid for listening to music at concerts, loud venues and has good streaming?
Wow. I liked it but so expensive here in Sydney, Australia the Oticon Real 1 worth $8,000 pair for delivery only w/o reprogramming. $10,000 in store hearing aid including Audiologist, cleaning, fitting earmold & 3 yrs warranty only. Too expensive for me. I will wait this after 1-2yrs to buy just a little used / like new so it will be cheaper in buying online international. I just bought now the More 1 pair for $1,240 AUD from Ukraine & I have to wait for 5 weeks to deliver. 😊
The Oticon Terms and Conditions of Sale Article 2 Prices :"The parties agree that it is not their intent that any payments made under the Sales Agreement be in return for the the purchasing or ordering of any products or services other than the specific Products or services described in the Sales Agreement." Bundling services by an audiologist with the price of the hearing aid appears to be counter to this policy.
Excellent review
Hi doctor, How you compare these vs the phonak lumity?
They are both great in different ways. Might make a comparison video.
@@DrCliffAuD thank you
@@DrCliffAuD do the phonaks allow connecting to an iPhone and iPad at the same time..an important feature for me.
can i ask u Q
what about ur Neuro Calm Pro product
Testing Oticon Real 1 with Cros transmitter at the moment. Not impressed at all: noise handling from the Cros transmitter just does not work. Will return them after the test.
I’m torn between Phonak Lumity 90 Life and Oticon Real 1. I love streaming a lot. I hear Oticon is very good with streaming and Phonak losses connection a lot. Debates!!!
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Thanks doc!
One of the features you never address is the excellent quality of the sound, especially music, when listening from my phone on Oticon On and More hearing aids. I can't compare it to other brands. Maybe you can?
Widex is the best, it beats all manufactures when it comes to sound
Something tells me oticon might make an in ear version of the real no question
How far can you be away from an iPhone can you be to hear Bluetooth?
approximately 30 feet
Thanks!
My experience with Oticon More and Real.
I first got the More version about 6 weeks ago, I have had 3 different pairs of these, and have to say that I have to re pair them with my Samsung s23ultra which I was told before I bought this phone would be compatible from Oticon, my last change was to the Oticon Real version , these I've had for 3/4 days , and to date perform no better having to re pair them several times a day!!!
What is the Oticon price?
@@iamcrownvetch hi, I paid almost €7000 for them including a TV box and a drying thing which I put them in every night, to be fair they are performing much better since an update from Samsung to the phone and the latest visit to shop who have been extremely helpful, but from past experience I feel it's too early to say wether the problems have finally gone away ! lol
@@tonywilkes1781 my audiologist want to charge me 7200 dollars. I wanted to know if this is a fair price. Otherwise I will choose under 2000 one in Costco. I wish someone can tell me how big of difference between them.
@@iamcrownvetch They are slowly improving the connectivity on them from the shop , the factory and an upgrade from Samsung , as for the sound quality I have to say they are far superior to an older model of Phonax that I have except these do not connect WiFi which is the reason for spending the extra on the Oticon ones
Disappointing that this doesn't come in a 105dB BTE option
You can get a 105dB receiver with the RICs.
Having to turn Bluetooth on and off is a dealbreaker for me.
Marine option SIR!!!
I'd suggest that people pass on the Oticon Real. I bought a set of Real 2s six months ago, and one of them just started triple-blinking in the charger. This means "System error" which means "You don't get to hear anymore". This is absolutely rage-inducing given how incredibly expensive these things are. I'm so angry about this.
That could literally happen with any hearing aid. It's a very rare thing to happen. Can't your provider fix that quickly for you?
Video looses focus around the 18 min mark
I think they rushed this to market a bit fast. The mic noise/static is loud
🤣 ah the ol' retention wire hurts like hell and kept poking my ear
The new Oticon companies n app is unstable and they should allow an i individual to choose!
I have the Oticon real and the windnoisereduction is crap does not work at all
Please, please, add some more 'rest' moments in your videos. All the sentences seem to be stuck together. Incredibly tiring! I already have bad hearing and English is not my mother tongue.
And it's not a contest where you have to fire off as many words as possible in a minute.
Sorry, I have a naturally fast rate of speech. An easy trick is to slow down the playback speed on TH-cam. This will make all videos easier to understand.
That's a good tip! Playing videos at a slightly slower speed also works well with other You-Tube videos and channels. I myself am severely hearing impaired and benefit from it.
Good luck with these excellent videos!
Greetings from the Netherlands. @@DrCliffAuD