Shade Post Installation
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ก.ค. 2013
- Shazeebo has made another Shade sail Installation video to help the DIYers with their shade sail project. This video shows that anyone can install a post by themselves for their shade sail. This video also shows a few tricks that may make the installation easier and faster like the 5 dollar cement mixer and diy pole brace. Hope you enjoy the video.
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Steel or wood, you never want the top of the concrete under dirt. Water will pool and eventually rust out that post. Leave it a little around and trowel it so it slopes away from the pole
Simple and just to add something positive, I've watched 20-30 videos of people cementing poles and she is the first to add the bolt at the bottom to prevent the pole from pulling out of the concrete, good job girl!!!
Great video, love the simplicity of it all..
Good video and helpful to show the drill kickback.
That's the first time I've seen cement mixed like that. Really cool! Thanks for the video
The tarp idea for mixing the concrete Is brilliant. You can pick up super cheap tarps at Harbor Freight. Adding the bolt to the pole which will be buried in the concrete is also a great idea. I think I may put two of them in at a 90° angle to each other to prevent tipping in any direction. Definitely going to use some of your ideas in my project, thank you!
Thank you! My poles are installed 100%, they look great!
Great to hear!
Drilling big holes in metal with a hand drill is dangerous. If no option, drill a small hole first, then bigger, then the final hole;) Also, literally the weight of the drill is sufficient pressure, if not, you need a sharper bit. Lube also helps. Everything will last longer, including you;)
My dad also told me about the bolt this is exactly what I have to do to put my shade sail up simple easy straight to the point good job good video dont listen to the negative comments if they can't do it themselves they should shut up
Great work. Thanks so much.
thansk fot the tip on the bolt inside the pole with the cement
Everybody needs Heavy Metal! Seriously though, great video
Nice video and informative. The problem in encasing the pole with concrete is eventually over time the chemicals in the concrete will react to the metal causing corrosion. Coat the pipe with some roofing tar/cement or wrap it in plastic.
great job!!👌
Thank you! 😃
I am going to use some old exploration drill rods for the very same purpose. This is the very video I am looking for. Thank you. If I may contribute my two cents worth. Regarding the drill grabs and twists near the end, what I usually do is lift the drill slightly off and then drop it down ever so gently, almost like touching the hole before it breaks through. If you are to keep the same pressure all the way through, the drill bit will bite into the wall and violently twist the drill, and possibly your wrist.
Yeah that pole's not going anywhere... good job guys.
good job..I just buy the quick crete post bags of concrete.. put the pole in the hole then add the bag and some water on top.. done.. but I will admit that tarp mixing thing was pretty clever..I like the bolt at the bottom of pole too...
How many bags of concrete did you use per hole and what size bag? Thanks.
Not enough concrete was added since it didn’t go to the surface of the ground
I love your video my question is have a 27ft round above ground pool I have a28ft triangle sun shade how far away from pool should the poles go also it came with rope should I purchase the wire cable Thanks
Hi Sam, the posts just need to be placed so that they avoid any pool equipment pipes and wiring. Consideration should also be made for easy walking around the pool (i.e. don't put a post right by the stairs into the pool). Rope will probably be fine, you just may need to replace it in a few years. Steel cable will last longer and be stronger, but does your sail come with a pocket around the perimeter to feed the cable into so it goes all the way around the sail?
@@SHAZEEBOShadeSails I’m not sure I will look I can purchase some wire Thanks
Hmmm? I didn’t hear any rude comments. Enjoyed the video and loved the cement mixer. Great workout 🏋️♀️. That’s a pretty big hole. How many bags did that take?? 80# bags right??
Generally, we use about 8, 60# bags per hole. It just depends on the size of the hole.
Saw for wood torch for metal. Weld scrap to the pipe.
Hey there Shazeebo ... what size pole are you using? Can you list out the specifics (diameter, what type of metal) and where to go to find those for purchase?
Hi Shannon, we always recommend a schedule 40 steel post for your shade sail projects. You can order custom made posts from your local fencing or metal supplier. Don't forget to get them powder-coated for a beautiful look and to resist rusting! The height and diameter of the post will vary depending on the size of your sail and other factors. Feel free to give us a call if you have questions about a shade sail project! (760)603-3269
@@SHAZEEBOShadeSails thank you for such a quick response! It is most appreciated.
Where did you get the pole? I have been looking for steel poles and can't find them anywhere.
Hi Mary, we source our steel posts from local metal or fence suppliers. Some places will also powder coat them for you.
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What are the specs on the steel? I'm going to do a 20X20 and need to know what steel to get and depth to keep the poles from pulling over sideways.
We are not engineers, but the general recommendation is to go with a minimum 4" diameter steel post with schedule 40 thickness. If your posts are taller than 11' out of the ground, we recommend a 6" diamter post. The general rule of thumb for footer depth is that about 1/3 of the post should be buried in a concrete footer that is 2' wide. So a 10' tall out of the ground post is 15' in length with 5' buried in the footer. This is a general recommendation because it will depend on your soil and other factors.
Did you lay plastic lining under the concrete first? Sorry if I’m ignorant, didn’t catch it
Hi Dave, we do not put plastic lining under the concrete.
What size/gauge metal pole are you using? Thanks
Disregard...I didn't search far enough down! Schedule 40. Thanks.
TIP: add a zinc or magnesium anode to your steel pole and it will extend the life of your steel pole.
where do we buy the galvanized poles? can anyone tell me?
Sorry this reply is a little late, but you should be able to get galvanized poles from your local steel or fence suppliers.
definitely get galvanized not raw steel
Over kill on cement ...unless you have constant 40+ mph winds..should have put rebar thru pipe..but hey great job
Thanks, this was one of our earlier jobs and we are glad that it was still helpful.
Bom dia tudo bem? Olha eu estou adorando seus videos soa incrives mais eu tenho dificudade pra entender ingles esses vedeos pode ser traduzidos em português?
Bom dia, desculpem pela demora na resposta. Não temos ninguém aqui que fale português, mas se você conhece alguém que gostaria de fazer uma versão traduzida, ficarei feliz em trabalhar com eles. (Estou usando o google tradutor para esta resposta, então peço desculpas se parece estranho.)
What size and type of steel did you use
We recommend schedule 40 steel, at least 4" in diameter.
whole lot of info missing from this tutorial
Yeah, for one, is that angle going away from the shade cloth and why should it be at an angle?
I don't understand having concrete not at the same level as the adjacent ground. The dirt that you put around the base of the pole is going to cause rusting at the base of the pole. It seems better to put concrete higher than the adjacent ground, or at least coating the pole with a robust protective coating.
Hi Oregon Phototrekker! I apologize for the delayed response, it's getting busy over here as we enter the summer months. We do recommend that you have your posts powder coated, not only do they look better but they also protect the post from rust. I cannot recall the reason for not having the posts powder coated for this particular customer. As far as the dirt, some customers don't like to see the concrete footing and would prefer a more seamless look with the rest of their yard.
You can wrap a little felt/tar paper or any other type of material like that around it then put in the dirt.
galvanized poles take a dam long time to rust.. nothing to worry about..
A TWO MAN CEMENT MIXER ON A TARP 🤓 WELL GOLLY I AINT NEVER SHIZAM ❗
two women, I believe
Where did you purchase the pole?
Posts can be purchased from local metal or fencing suppliers.
I’ve been looking everywhere. Where can I buy a pole for a shade sail
Same!
Posts can be purchased from local metal or fencing suppliers. We recommend schedule-40 steel, 4 inches in diameter.
@@SHAZEEBOShadeSails thanks for the type and width, but how long is the pole?
@@acousteau6529 I believe this post was about 9' out of the ground, so the total length of the post was 11.5' (so that we could bury 2.5' of the post in the concrete footer). If you have questions about how tall your posts should be, feel free to email our office at info@shazeebo.com or call us at 760-603-3269.
Could you please tell me what to search for in order to find a company to install the posts for me? I’m having a difficult time finding a business that’s willing to do it. Thank you
Hi Allen, I'm sorry you're having so much trouble finding a company to install. You may want to try a local landscaper or a general contractor. Feel free to email or call us if you have any questions about doing it yourself, info@shazeebo.com or 760-603-3269.
SHAZEEBO Shade Sails thank you!
where do you buy these poles
Hi Dennis, sorry for the delayed response! You can find steel posts at your local metal or fence supplier.
Can you tell me what size & width steel polls you used for this project?
Our rule of thumb for posts is to use schedule 40 steel, 4x4 is usually a good width. Of course, every project is a little different. Feel free to give us a call if you would like to discuss your shade sail project. 1-760-603-3269
@@SHAZEEBOShadeSails perfect thank you.
Why is the pole not set plumb?
Hi M C, great question! The shade sail, when installed and pulled tight with cable and turnbuckles, will put a lot of pressure on the post. Unless you have an incredibly deep footer, the post will pull inwards a tiny bit. If you start with the post tilting outwards, the pull from the sail will stand it up straight.
Why not leveled?
Angle away from the direction it will be pulled for stability
dont you think the pole is very ugly...?
uhhhhhhh, paint it then.....
Buy a galvanized one. Problem solved.
Must hate using a shovel to mix concrete... honestly its less labor intensive to do it by shovel than the tarp
Hi Kim, we admit, the tarp is a more labor intensive method for mixing concrete, however, it is also probably the cheapest! If you're looking for a less labor intensive option, we use a MudMixer on almost all of our projects these days. Of course, this is a bit more costly!
This ain't a genuine shade sail post project...I hope ! Seriously crappy 250 grade ungalvanised steel will rust out all too quickly.
I've been doing shade sails for 20 years and have yet to see a post "pull up and out of the ground" ... The bit of allthread or bolt at the post bottom is a waste of time and effort. If the hole, concrete, soil and post height are not properly "engineered the post is likely to pull OVER but not up.
+John Simmonds I've been doing research to install my own shade sail and I must say this video is pretty poor quality work. They spent $5 on a tarp but for $13 you can buy a concrete mixing tub at Home Depot. One reason why there is so much kick back on the drill is because they are drilling way to fast. Drilling through steel it should only be a couple of hundred RPMs. The cost of getting a custom shade sail, buying a schedule 40 galvanized pole, you're already spending maybe $800 bucks... I don't see why they couldn't spend an additional $8 to buy a concrete mixing tub.
Other than galvanized, anything else about the pole or depth of the hole that you would recommend? I am doing this in my backyard this summer.
Not only is the pole going to rust but they are making it rot even quicker by putting dirt on top of the concrete that touches the pole and holds the water in place.
The area I live in has 140 mile per hour winds for days on end every spring, yes hurricane force winds. SO yeah I've seen all kind stuff get sucked up into the air including my stick built garage.
I want to install a 30x35' shade sale over a kids playground. how deep should poles be? I think they need to be 10' off the ground to clear the playground slide. what diameter shoudl I use and how much cement? charlotte NC, residential wind load is 120mph for this area.