Hi David, we are glad we were able to help with the Commodore PC-10 for your documentary. Thanks for visiting us and our warehouse. Next time you are in RI we can show you our Learning Lab, and our working PDP-9 minicomputer.
@@peterjohnson9438 definitely, David doing an overview of a minicomputer is top notch content right there. Heck, I don't think any well know retro-tech TH-camr ever done a review of a minicomputer from the 60s or 70s, guess that's because they're so rare and hard to come by, and have the size of a refrigerator or a kitchen stove not including the terminal unit.
The 5.25" floppy head issue might be because the heads mechanism rests on rubber stops when a disk is inserted... the rubber may have turned to goo and the head is therefore resting lower than it should be 💾
"[Removing a warranty sticker from a computer from the 1980s] I think it's safe to say Commodore won't be doing any warranty repairs on this." -- David "The 8-bit Guy" Murray
"Vobis Prüfsiegel" - it's a German warranty sticker - "Vobis" was one of the biggest computer seller during that time in West Germany - so the PC1 was sold in Germany orginaly
I noticed that too. But apparently someone must have converted it for 115V operation in the US. I don't think the power supplies back than had an adjustable input voltage, let alone having wide-range inputs that can be used witn any common mains voltage in the world. Btw, I was more of an Escom guy back then, instead of Vobis. (For those who don't know, there was a time when most of the PC market for private use was split up between these two companies in Germany.) None of those is active any more.
@@kpanic23 I wouldn't be surprised if someone changed the power supply (which is usually no big deal as long as you get the right replacement) but left the sticker as it was - getting the original sticker is probably quite complicated, and not everyone had a p-touch label printer back then. ;-) Not the most professional way to do it, but I think those computers were regularly modified by whoever knew which end of a screwdriver goes into the head of the screw. ;-)
Leda Ferreira As far as I know, he always does that. And if he wouldn’t, there are endless easy ways to convert it. Not trying to be mean here or anything
I wonder if the weird yellowing on the 386 is actually nicotine staining: you can imagine someone's ashtray sitting just at that corner of the machine when they were using it...
First we start to break out all your teeth and put them outside in the drive way to brighten up a bit. Right after that we glue them al back in place by using a little diagram to show were each one goes ; )
It's much appreciated in the rest of the world as well 😉 Less than 10 countries around the globe, exclusively, use fahrenheit. It's nearly as stupid as MPH and driving on the left side of the road 😁
Mr. Miss Driving on the left isn’t as big a deal as the temperature measurements. Driving on the left only affects those in that country, where everyone is used to driving on the left. Whereas with online and internationally available content (like this video), different temperature measurements cause confusion.
That really is awesome... you're doing good work bringing those machines back to life... My poor Apple IIgs is so badly yellowed, it doesn't know what color it used to be!
The copyright on that motherboard may be 1985 but the chip at 5:56 has 8640 on it. So the memory card was probably not an after-sale add-on. By the end of 1986, I'm pretty sure no-one wanted a PC with less than 640K anymore.
I remember there being a 286 with something like 128 or 256K of RAM back at my school around 1992-1993. It had EGA graphics and a relatively fast CPU for a 286, but the small amount of RAM was painful when we tried to run games on it. No modern games (for that era) ever ran on it due to that puny memory, only older games ran on that system, but we would still play those when the teachers weren't looking.
Hi, at work we had brand new 286 and 386SX new with 256K ram and amber screens, all the machines were basically full AT class machines but all booted of a floppy drive only and used a host / terminal emulator program to connect to mainframes, of the approx 80 machines on one floor, only about 4 of them were fitted with 40meg hard drives and word perfect and lotus When these machines were replaced about 3 to 4 years later, they were basically all destined for land fill, but we were able to take some home, and a few people were able to solder on the extra ram and get 512 and 640k Regards George
@@georgemaragos2378 My first PC was a computer my dad bought at the end of 1990. It was an IBM compatible with 16MHz 386, 4MB of RAM, both a 5.25" and a 3.5" floppy disk drives, VGA card, mouse and dot matrix printer, but no sound card, modem or most perplexing of all, no hard drive. All these extras were optional, and my dad didn't bother to order those. So I had to play VGA games with PC speaker sound for a while and had to swap floppies like crazy, because some games came with 7 or 8 of those.
Commodore was always focused on cost reduction and providing for the low end. The PC-10 was a *family* of machines based on the same motherboard. The PC-10-I came with only 512kb. The 10-II had the total 640kb via this expansion card.
RI Computer Museum after watching video: Er.... hey David.... Could you “assist” in the restoration in our other 2000+ or so computers? Don’t worry, we’ll pay you, “something”.....
Important tip with 5.25" drives: don't insert a disk unless the power's on! The reason for this is that when you close the latch, the cookie (the rotating bit) gets clamped to the spindle, and there's a centring mechanism to make sure that the cookie is centred --- that's the conical wedge you can see in the middle of the drive. But this only operates when the drive is spinning; there's a switch that will start the drive as you insert the disk. If you insert a disk while the drive isn't powered, then you may end up with the cookie clamped squint onto the spindle, which will lead to read errors because the tracks will move back and forth under the head as the cookie rotates. And, worse, if you try to _write_ to the disk you'll probably just corrupt it. This is unlikely to be the cause of the damage pictured in the video, though. No idea what's causing that.
They're fast and in normal city driving below about 30 mph, you don't need brakes because the DC motors slow you down. Other than that, they're overpriced. And then there's the Elon liability: www.nytimes.com/2018/09/17/business/elon-musk-sued-pedophilia-accusation.html
@@jimmybuffet4970 you posted on a year old video with 3 year old information (that was dropped) while being incorrect. Impressive. 9 years later and no one's beating the original Model S, much less the current ones.
Maybe it's time to cobble together an indoor retrobright rig? I think maybe a Clear tote, UV lamps all around and a Sous Vide immersion wand to maintain a stable temperature.
If UV is really needed (there is some debate), then cloud cover shouldn't affect it much because most UV passes through clouds (which is why you should wear sunglasses even on a cloudy day).
@@Nukle0n He has not had time to utilize it, there are a lot of things going on right now and it's just been very busy. Went from Planet X3 to the Commander 16 Prototype project.
According to the waranty sticker you removed from the PC-1, the machine actually is from Germany and was sold by Vobis, a chain with lots of stores all over Germany (similar to Escom, which might be more known in the US). Vobis (and Escom too) actually kind of went out of business the time Commodore fell as well. It is interesting to see it having made such a long way all over to Texas.
cherry is a german Company. and most of the devices of the commodore pc line were developed and produced in Germany...it would be more wierd if that three were NOT from Germany :)
Ahh~ yes, Vobis was quite the computer store chain in the 90's over here. We had a store right down the street when I was little but I barely remember anything :/ Love the PC1's compact design, it looks so nice.
That's OK, the Amiga 2500 I bought circa 1989 had a weird metal case deformity direct from the factory. Those computers are obvious derivatives of Commodore's PC clone machines featured in this video. My college roommate joked that my Amiga's metal case "looks like something is trying to get out." That computer was also made in West Germany, as was my Amiga 3000TUX which was a glorified Amiga 3000T with Amiga UNIX installed. We affectionately called that operating system "Amix." I also had an A2410 "University of Lowell High Resolution Graphics Display Card" but the lack of memory killed performance on that system.Trying to replicate a SPARCstation using an Amiga didn't work out in the long run.
Kris Rehberg The Amiga 2000’s case is a variant of that of the Commodore 900, a Unix workstation project that was dropped when the Amiga was purchased. The 900 was being built at Commodore West Germany, where the original Commodore PCs were also designed. Family pedigree shines through.
Finally, some restorations! I love this part of the channel more than the reviews being perfectly frank. Not that the reviews and history aren't interesting: this is just my personal favorite!
Agree. Seeing these computers getting restored from broken piece of crap, to almost factory original(not always) just brings me a sense of joy. Thank you 8-bit guy for the happiness you have brought me over the years.
I can't decide how I feel about that, part of me is "impressive collection" and part of me feels like it's hoarding and the reason I rarely see any for sale.
@@JoeUrbanYYC Every single one of those is a different model. Every one. Besides, when I got those machines in the 90s, people were tossing them out as fast as they could -- a great many of those wouldn't exist to be on the market today had someone not rescued them.
Yea was about to say the same, even the way you power it on to link to the PSU is the same, and not that common anywhere else. Same layout of the floppy drives as well.
dear david, i LOVE your channel! I saw one of your older episodes where i think you said you where related to Vinnie Paul, i am sorry for your loss. Keep up the 8 bit stuff, thanks.
Yknow, you do this kind of thing often enough that it's probably worth it to invest in a blacklight and heater for retrobrighting. It'd probably be more efficient anyway.
Actually i remember him talking about that in one of his videos, i think he mentioned it might of been too much money as well as lack of time that he had.
Commodore might not provide warranty any more, but Vobis most definitely will, 15:53 :) I wonder how many of these commodore PCs made it back to the US from Germany as they where more popular here. Thanks for the update!
Until I googled them just now I wasn't even aware they still exist. Vobis was where I bought most of my PC and Amiga related hardware and software in the late 80s and early 90s Until the branch in my hometown and most of them in the surrounding area went bankrupt.
@@bakakafka4428 Vobis was bought by Metro (as in Saturn/MediaMarkt) at some point, and over time, they just kind of disappeared from most places. It seems some branches are still left though. There's supposed to be a branch in Berlin, although I've never run across it. Remember their competitor Escom? They actually filed bankruptcy in the mid 90s.
12:00 The way that sound resonates after striking, I like that a lot, lol Hopefully you'll be able to show off the PC-10 working fully in the documentary.
Any chance of a video about the Tesla in the future? Since you posted about the Volt and the I-3, it would be interesting to hear your point of view about the Model 3 too.
So excited to see this video! My first PC compatible was a Commodore PC 10-2 (640k RAM, 2 floppies, Hercules monochrome graphics with CGA emulation on an amber monitor) in 1987. I added a 20 MB hard drive later. That was the first computer I ever earned money with, writing dBase programs. I sold it in 1993. Can't find a used one ANYWHERE nowadays. :-)
Its a slim line version of the same terrible bits of metal and plastic that is the A4000 desktop case. Commodore originally planned to use it for PCs but decided to package the A4000 in it instead.
I had a Commodore PC 20 -III On the PC-1 was a sticker from the company VOBIS from germany, i have been worked for it, until it was bankrupt. i can´t wait for the Commodore video. :)
The amount of time you put in to these is just pure dedication. Your restorations are always an inspiration to me and my own projects. Retrobright worked FANTASTICALLY on my IBM 122 Key Terminal keyboard (aka the "IBM Battleship"). I bought original color keys to update to a modern keyboard layout (with the help of a Soarer's cable) and I just couldn't stop looking at the color difference between the new keys and the keyboard. So, I Retrobrighted the original keys and the chassis of the keyboard. This worked great and led me to two conclusions: 1) Retrobright is AWESOME and works well to get the ORIGINAL color back 2) Unicomp has done an AMAZING job color matching the original IBM keyboard colors. I could have a mix of old and new keys and you could barely tell the difference. Love the video and THANK YOU for sharing with us.
Thanks for giving a shoutout to RI and the RI Computer Museum! I live near there and that’s a great place to walk around in! Commodore collector/enthusiast myself!
I don't know much about computer not mentioning vintage ones,but your videos are overall very soothing,so I save them before I go to sleep,so relaxing...
He has not had time to utilize it, there are a lot of things going on right now and it's just been very busy. Went from Planet X3 to the Commander 16 Prototype project.
I've seen him heat keys on the stove and if heat is the most important factor I feel like he could just attempt to use the machine in his buckets. If I remember from his previous tests he wouldnt even need UV.
@@AscendedBeyondif i remember right, he made a retro-brite video in which he objectively ruled sous vide to be the best way to retro-brite, then did it maybe once then forgot about it.
He has not had time to utilize it, there are a lot of things going on right now and it's just been very busy. Went from Planet X3 to the Commander 16 Prototype project.
Alex chan If the ark movie or the start of the crystal skull movie, that was a warehouse with no shells or visible items, only large numbered wooden crates, making it near impossible for anyone not in the know to find anything.
Me in the future: "Hello kids! When I was your age, we moved our mouse cursor with a mouse. We had to physically move our arms to control our computers! We didn't have neural input devices. Just wait 'till I get going about *keyboards* for text entry!"
I had a couple of PC hardware that was damaged beyond repair shipped through FedUp or United Parcel Smashers years ago, even though, the packaging was put together well. The postal service does a better job.
Hi David, we are glad we were able to help with the Commodore PC-10 for your documentary. Thanks for visiting us and our warehouse. Next time you are in RI we can show you our Learning Lab, and our working PDP-9 minicomputer.
I'd love to see David make a video about the PDP-9 or perhaps DEC machines in general
You should probably get your channel verified.
@@peterjohnson9438 definitely, David doing an overview of a minicomputer is top notch content right there. Heck, I don't think any well know retro-tech TH-camr ever done a review of a minicomputer from the 60s or 70s, guess that's because they're so rare and hard to come by, and have the size of a refrigerator or a kitchen stove not including the terminal unit.
He never reads TH-cam comments
@ He does, he simply never replies.
The 5.25" floppy head issue might be because the heads mechanism rests on rubber stops when a disk is inserted... the rubber may have turned to goo and the head is therefore resting lower than it should be 💾
8 bit guy should notice this and that is very good skills of floppy drives... i has good grammar
AL!
yes, hon?!
that neighbour is out in his driveway again cleaning them old computers
He's sunbathing his computers again!
r/UsernameCheckOut
5:03 "I think it'll be ok" (piece of plastic from the pins that hold it in falls to the bottom of the case)
"I have exactly one day of sunny weather left to retrobrite this thing"
*tense music starts*
18:47 "Why'd you put the power button on the power supply?"
"Dude, it's fine, just use a giant stick as the power button"
You should make a shirt that says "I was Retrobrighted by 8-Bit Guy"
works perfectly if you’re pale
wait wtf did i just say
maybe a sticker!
(If you know what I mean)
@@scythal I'd also find it cool
✌️->✌🏻
"[Removing a warranty sticker from a computer from the 1980s]
I think it's safe to say Commodore won't be doing any warranty repairs on this." -- David "The 8-bit Guy" Murray
Happy Fakeboulder i dont understand, its logic
@@mi.janLuna What do you not understand
@@mi.janLuna scythal explains the joke: commodore doesnt exist anymore
@@mi.janLuna it's a real video not made up
"Vobis Prüfsiegel" - it's a German warranty sticker - "Vobis" was one of the biggest computer seller during that time in West Germany - so the PC1 was sold in Germany orginaly
I noticed that too. But apparently someone must have converted it for 115V operation in the US. I don't think the power supplies back than had an adjustable input voltage, let alone having wide-range inputs that can be used witn any common mains voltage in the world.
Btw, I was more of an Escom guy back then, instead of Vobis. (For those who don't know, there was a time when most of the PC market for private use was split up between these two companies in Germany.) None of those is active any more.
Yeah I noticed that too, especially because my dad used to work for them
Actually my AT back in 1992 had a switch on the back for 110/220V. It was not unheard of for PSUs.
@@Colaholiker Well, If someone did convert the power supply, he didn't bother to change the sticker on the back side. It clearly says 220-240V 50 Hz.
@@kpanic23 I wouldn't be surprised if someone changed the power supply (which is usually no big deal as long as you get the right replacement) but left the sticker as it was - getting the original sticker is probably quite complicated, and not everyone had a p-touch label printer back then. ;-)
Not the most professional way to do it, but I think those computers were regularly modified by whoever knew which end of a screwdriver goes into the head of the screw. ;-)
5:00 *snaps a piece of the lock off* I think it'll be okay :D
... So rough handling. I wouldn't trust him with any vintage stuff. Man. It hurts to see.
Well, to be honest that pin had already been damaged, so it would have broken anyway. It's just weird that he didn't notice
:D
I barely even noticed that after seeing this comment.
Though it does appear as if it was already snapped from prior damage.
@@ToTheGAMES Send him your vintage computers, he'll buy a Tesla.
"I think this will be okay" as he snaps off the plastic. Lmao
Futilizer just noticed that lol
LOL I noticed that too.
Kid: gets tan
8-bit guy: time for retrobrite
endy and co. this is the greatest comment i’ll ever see
*drowns kid In his driveway*
LOL
Gonna need foil
Great results 9-Bit, and no ozone in sight! Lovely seeing these beautiful machines restored. 👍🕹️
i understood that reference
9-bit?
@@randybob275 is because in the apple 2 pi project, when he presented the 8bit guy he accidentaly said "the 9 bit guy"
@@randybob275 Check his last video : 1 bit for parity ! XD
you should let David know that he may want to figure out an indoor retrobriting solution as well. ;-)
Thanks for translating the temperature into Celsius ^^
Leda Ferreira As far as I know, he always does that. And if he wouldn’t, there are endless easy ways to convert it. Not trying to be mean here or anything
@@bastiro03 not everyone opens a new tab and take time to convert one number. Some videos are full of it
Those cowboys and their funny units...who cares if 7.9 billion people use metric, right?
mojoblues66 The US just doesn’t want to be anything like Britain.
@@alexc8992 I think that's why we *mostly* still use Imperial units, to distance ourselves from Britain back when SI was coming into vogue.
I wonder if the weird yellowing on the 386 is actually nicotine staining: you can imagine someone's ashtray sitting just at that corner of the machine when they were using it...
You have a point there :p
I was thinking tar. Its in areas that would be touched all the time.
I bet on it. I used to smoke in the 90s.. And 2000s, and until 2016. All my machines, and gear, and alls and roofs would stain yellow/brown.
Nearby lamp is another option.
Could have been sitting next to a window.
"Mommy, what's that sound?"
"Daddy is just beating computers with a hammer, honey.."
His daughter isn't that young...
8bit-guy auditioning for one of the dwarves in "Snow-white" 😊
@@sfs2040 My dad still calls his parents Mommy and Daddy, Don't know why they never switched to Mom and Dad. he never says anything of it for respect.
Next up on 8-bit guy: Human Teeth Restoration.
David: "Okay, first off we're going to use some hydrogen peroxide..."
Alcohol seems to work well for this
"I think this tooth's out of alignment"
*starts pounding with a hammer and block of wood*
First we start to break out all your teeth and put them outside in the drive way to brighten up a bit. Right after that we glue them al back in place by using a little diagram to show were each one goes ; )
Because of your joke, is it safe to compare him to Sethbling now? Cause all his fans make the exact same joke
Thanks for the Celsius conversion on the temps. Much appreciated up here in Canada.
It's much appreciated in the rest of the world as well 😉
Less than 10 countries around the globe, exclusively, use fahrenheit.
It's nearly as stupid as MPH and driving on the left side of the road 😁
Mr. Miss
Driving on the left isn’t as big a deal as the temperature measurements. Driving on the left only affects those in that country, where everyone is used to driving on the left. Whereas with online and internationally available content (like this video), different temperature measurements cause confusion.
Spooky Lemon thank you for saving me from death
@@MrMiss-cp9bw Driving on the left is the _normal_ way to drive, thank you very much 😁
Hey! I thought the same thing! Because I'm also in Canada!
"it is missing a nut,which is one of my pet peeves" let me tell you about this one Austrian fellow...
That really is awesome... you're doing good work bringing those machines back to life...
My poor Apple IIgs is so badly yellowed, it doesn't know what color it used to be!
The copyright on that motherboard may be 1985 but the chip at 5:56 has 8640 on it. So the memory card was probably not an after-sale add-on. By the end of 1986, I'm pretty sure no-one wanted a PC with less than 640K anymore.
I remember there being a 286 with something like 128 or 256K of RAM back at my school around 1992-1993. It had EGA graphics and a relatively fast CPU for a 286, but the small amount of RAM was painful when we tried to run games on it. No modern games (for that era) ever ran on it due to that puny memory, only older games ran on that system, but we would still play those when the teachers weren't looking.
Hi, at work we had brand new 286 and 386SX new with 256K ram and amber screens, all the machines were basically full AT class machines but all booted of a floppy drive only and used a host / terminal emulator program to connect to mainframes, of the approx 80 machines on one floor, only about 4 of them were fitted with 40meg hard drives and word perfect and lotus
When these machines were replaced about 3 to 4 years later, they were basically all destined for land fill, but we were able to take some home, and a few people were able to solder on the extra ram and get 512 and 640k
Regards
George
@@georgemaragos2378 My first PC was a computer my dad bought at the end of 1990. It was an IBM compatible with 16MHz 386, 4MB of RAM, both a 5.25" and a 3.5" floppy disk drives, VGA card, mouse and dot matrix printer, but no sound card, modem or most perplexing of all, no hard drive. All these extras were optional, and my dad didn't bother to order those. So I had to play VGA games with PC speaker sound for a while and had to swap floppies like crazy, because some games came with 7 or 8 of those.
Commodore was always focused on cost reduction and providing for the low end. The PC-10 was a *family* of machines based on the same motherboard. The PC-10-I came with only 512kb. The 10-II had the total 640kb via this expansion card.
Yep Joe Cassara 512k was a pretty standard amount and even 384k.
RI Computer Museum after watching video:
Er.... hey David.... Could you “assist” in the restoration in our other 2000+ or so computers? Don’t worry, we’ll pay you, “something”.....
25 cents a computer.
R/choosingbeagers
@@yodathegreatandpowerful3104 beggers*
Important tip with 5.25" drives: don't insert a disk unless the power's on!
The reason for this is that when you close the latch, the cookie (the rotating bit) gets clamped to the spindle, and there's a centring mechanism to make sure that the cookie is centred --- that's the conical wedge you can see in the middle of the drive. But this only operates when the drive is spinning; there's a switch that will start the drive as you insert the disk. If you insert a disk while the drive isn't powered, then you may end up with the cookie clamped squint onto the spindle, which will lead to read errors because the tracks will move back and forth under the head as the cookie rotates. And, worse, if you try to _write_ to the disk you'll probably just corrupt it.
This is unlikely to be the cause of the damage pictured in the video, though. No idea what's causing that.
I would love to see a review of the Tesla, similar to what you did with your bmw.
#unrelated
They're fast and in normal city driving below about 30 mph, you don't need brakes because the DC motors slow you down. Other than that, they're overpriced. And then there's the Elon liability:
www.nytimes.com/2018/09/17/business/elon-musk-sued-pedophilia-accusation.html
@@jimmybuffet4970 you posted on a year old video with 3 year old information (that was dropped) while being incorrect. Impressive. 9 years later and no one's beating the original Model S, much less the current ones.
@@jimmybuffet4970 Elon hater
Maybe it's time to cobble together an indoor retrobright rig? I think maybe a Clear tote, UV lamps all around and a Sous Vide immersion wand to maintain a stable temperature.
He even has a sous vide but he's never taken it into use.
If UV is really needed (there is some debate), then cloud cover shouldn't affect it much because most UV passes through clouds (which is why you should wear sunglasses even on a cloudy day).
@@Nukle0n He has not had time to utilize it, there are a lot of things going on right now and it's just been very busy. Went from Planet X3 to the Commander 16 Prototype project.
@@MrTBoneSF UV is absolutely needed to generate the radical ions that run the reaction.
Good idea, but the sun gives us all the free UV and heat we want. Why create a tech. solution to s/t that isn't a problem?
Yes, finally a video again! Don't care if it's a filler or not :)
Nice dinosaur picture
@@friendlyjapanesebusinesswoman *pony
@@friendlyjapanesebusinesswoman lol dinosaur xd
restorations are the best
Ikr?
Hi 8-bit guy! Just want to let you know.. I found a Commodore 232 number 31..!! What a great find!
Thank you for including temperatures in °C as well :)
According to the waranty sticker you removed from the PC-1, the machine actually is from Germany and was sold by Vobis, a chain with lots of stores all over Germany (similar to Escom, which might be more known in the US). Vobis (and Escom too) actually kind of went out of business the time Commodore fell as well. It is interesting to see it having made such a long way all over to Texas.
i notice it too - and have the the same in mind. :-) - West Germany to be exact during that time :-)
Escom bought Commodore in 1995. And then promptly went bankrupt in 1996.
Not only the Cherry Keyboard was from Germany, also the PC-I was. It had a Vobis Sticker on it, a German Computer Store from that time
cherry is a german Company.
and most of the devices of the commodore pc line were developed and produced in Germany...it would be more wierd if that three were NOT from Germany :)
Hey David, love your videos bud. Just wanted to say, I do metal work and yes that's basically the correct way to straighten that metal 😂😂
Ahh~ yes, Vobis was quite the computer store chain in the 90's over here.
We had a store right down the street when I was little but I barely remember anything :/
Love the PC1's compact design, it looks so nice.
That's OK, the Amiga 2500 I bought circa 1989 had a weird metal case deformity direct from the factory. Those computers are obvious derivatives of Commodore's PC clone machines featured in this video. My college roommate joked that my Amiga's metal case "looks like something is trying to get out." That computer was also made in West Germany, as was my Amiga 3000TUX which was a glorified Amiga 3000T with Amiga UNIX installed. We affectionately called that operating system "Amix." I also had an A2410 "University of Lowell High Resolution Graphics Display Card" but the lack of memory killed performance on that system.Trying to replicate a SPARCstation using an Amiga didn't work out in the long run.
Kris Rehberg The Amiga 2000’s case is a variant of that of the Commodore 900, a Unix workstation project that was dropped when the Amiga was purchased. The 900 was being built at Commodore West Germany, where the original Commodore PCs were also designed. Family pedigree shines through.
Finally, some restorations! I love this part of the channel more than the reviews being perfectly frank. Not that the reviews and history aren't interesting: this is just my personal favorite!
Same
Agree. Seeing these computers getting restored from broken piece of crap, to almost factory original(not always) just brings me a sense of joy. Thank you 8-bit guy for the happiness you have brought me over the years.
2:27 I also have never seen so many commodore PETS!
I can't decide how I feel about that, part of me is "impressive collection" and part of me feels like it's hoarding and the reason I rarely see any for sale.
@@JoeUrbanYYC That's exactly what I thought of it too.
@@JoeUrbanYYC Every single one of those is a different model. Every one. Besides, when I got those machines in the 90s, people were tossing them out as fast as they could -- a great many of those wouldn't exist to be on the market today had someone not rescued them.
3 restorations in one video?! Wow you've spoiled us today David!
The PC-1 is soooo beautiful
The 386 case is just like an Amiga 4000, but low profile.
Even the internal layout is the same.
Yea was about to say the same, even the way you power it on to link to the PSU is the same, and not that common anywhere else. Same layout of the floppy drives as well.
dear david, i LOVE
your channel! I saw one of your older episodes where i think you said you where related to Vinnie Paul, i am sorry for your loss. Keep up the 8 bit stuff, thanks.
dude! you got me through quarantine; I love your voice, your cadence, and your videos. Relaxing and soothing...you are my buddah.
Yknow, you do this kind of thing often enough that it's probably worth it to invest in a blacklight and heater for retrobrighting. It'd probably be more efficient anyway.
Actually i remember him talking about that in one of his videos, i think he mentioned it might of been too much money as well as lack of time that he had.
Thanks for the tip, Billy Mays. Any product to order for this?
Commodore might not provide warranty any more, but Vobis most definitely will, 15:53 :)
I wonder how many of these commodore PCs made it back to the US from Germany as they where more popular here. Thanks for the update!
Until I googled them just now I wasn't even aware they still exist. Vobis was where I bought most of my PC and Amiga related hardware and software in the late 80s and early 90s Until the branch in my hometown and most of them in the surrounding area went bankrupt.
ah thanks:) nun weis ich warum es in Deutsch steht
No kidding, these guys survived? I was sure they went bankrupt a long time ago. What happened, someone bought the brand?
@@bakakafka4428 Vobis was bought by Metro (as in Saturn/MediaMarkt) at some point, and over time, they just kind of disappeared from most places. It seems some branches are still left though. There's supposed to be a branch in Berlin, although I've never run across it. Remember their competitor Escom? They actually filed bankruptcy in the mid 90s.
I quite enjoyed your Chevy Volt video from a few years ago... hope you do a Tesla vs Volt video at some point?
Wordsnwood (Art Mulder) His Channel is about Vintage PCs, not Cars, so It‘s not impossible, just unlikely
And there are already 7 car-related videos on his channel, so I think it was a fair question.
12:00 The way that sound resonates after striking, I like that a lot, lol
Hopefully you'll be able to show off the PC-10 working fully in the documentary.
You seem to like sounds.
I'm always up for some retro technology. :) Greetings from Poland!
5:01 Rip plastic.
I missed that lol
Holy shoot, I missed that to.
every time you do these repairs it reminds me of that one scene from toy story 2 especially when you fix little details like the rubber feet
I love the restoration videos.
I love Commodore videos.
Great to see a new one!
The PC-I sticker said "Vobis..." on it. That was a german shop and brings back some (mixed) memories.
Any chance of a video about the Tesla in the future? Since you posted about the Volt and the I-3, it would be interesting to hear your point of view about the Model 3 too.
Marco Pontello Yes, I second that tremendously! 🚗
Love your work...started with a 128 Commodore and hey presto a life in IT, i learn so much watching you!
So excited to see this video! My first PC compatible was a Commodore PC 10-2 (640k RAM, 2 floppies, Hercules monochrome graphics with CGA emulation on an amber monitor) in 1987. I added a 20 MB hard drive later. That was the first computer I ever earned money with, writing dBase programs. I sold it in 1993. Can't find a used one ANYWHERE nowadays. :-)
That 386 looks like it’s in a similar case to the Amiga A4000 desktop.
Its a slim line version of the same terrible bits of metal and plastic that is the A4000 desktop case. Commodore originally planned to use it for PCs but decided to package the A4000 in it instead.
@@NJRoadfan was the a4000 really that bad?
9:53 Instead of using a black crate, why not find a clear/transparent crate which the sunlight can pass through?
Or line the inside with reflective material, like aluminium foil!
AleX Dark He uses the black crate to trap heat inside the crate because the reaction is caused mainly by heat.
@@joshpires8312 Heat lamp maybe?
Rotate the crate for 90 degrees.
@ All the water would fall out
Thank you so much David for making TH-cam videos. I love watching every single one. They are always so interesting!
I could watch you restore old tech all day! Love the commentary as well!!!
You have 900K subs... Good luck getting the Gold Play Button and 1M subs!
And we look forward to the inevitable video clip of David retrobrighting the Gold Play Button on his front walk! :)
It’sa me! Sry, i just had to
@@Raguleader weather permitting
13 minutes for the first computer, 3 minutes for the second, and 30 seconds for the last one. David, David.
Like kid in school writing on the board. Starts with big letters then towards the end letters becoming smaller
With practice he gets faster...
It’s always a treat when you post a new video. Thanks.
great video as always!! be glad you went when you did, I-35 in Waco is now beginning construction.
I had a Commodore PC 20 -III On the PC-1 was a sticker from the company VOBIS from germany, i have been worked for it, until it was bankrupt. i can´t wait for the Commodore video. :)
Love these restoration videos. Never gets old seeing these machines brought back to their prime.
Man, I just dig David using synthwave as his tracks. It makes his show so relaxing.
The amount of time you put in to these is just pure dedication. Your restorations are always an inspiration to me and my own projects. Retrobright worked FANTASTICALLY on my IBM 122 Key Terminal keyboard (aka the "IBM Battleship").
I bought original color keys to update to a modern keyboard layout (with the help of a Soarer's cable) and I just couldn't stop looking at the color difference between the new keys and the keyboard. So, I Retrobrighted the original keys and the chassis of the keyboard.
This worked great and led me to two conclusions:
1) Retrobright is AWESOME and works well to get the ORIGINAL color back
2) Unicomp has done an AMAZING job color matching the original IBM keyboard colors. I could have a mix of old and new keys and you could barely tell the difference.
Love the video and THANK YOU for sharing with us.
david fixing computer videos are always the best 8 bit guy videos! thanks this is awesome
Thanks David for these rare finds! Looking forward to the Commodore History video. 😄👍🏻
Awesome as always !! Great to watch another restoration project
Thanks for giving a shoutout to RI and the RI Computer Museum! I live near there and that’s a great place to walk around in! Commodore collector/enthusiast myself!
This has to be the best ASMR channel! His voice is so soothing and the footages are so nostalgic!
he sounds like the guy from the movie "Office Space".
"yeeeah, what's happening"
I could watch you all day take these machines apart! Fascinating!
I don't know much about computer not mentioning vintage ones,but your videos are overall very soothing,so I save them before I go to sleep,so relaxing...
Dat frking cheesy 80's music intro...... love it
I have never heard you sound any more Texan than when you compared the inside of the first PC-1 to the outside.
Love these videos :) Great production. Appreciate the time and effort you put in.
Always great to see PCs from Commodore ;) Great vid!
Hey David I remember you got a sous vide machine awhile ago but I havent seen you try it for retrobrite. Is there a reason?
He has not had time to utilize it, there are a lot of things going on right now and it's just been very busy. Went from Planet X3 to the Commander 16 Prototype project.
I've seen him heat keys on the stove and if heat is the most important factor I feel like he could just attempt to use the machine in his buckets. If I remember from his previous tests he wouldnt even need UV.
@@AscendedBeyondif i remember right, he made a retro-brite video in which he objectively ruled sous vide to be the best way to retro-brite, then did it maybe once then forgot about it.
Why arent you using the sous vide technique? You already got a Joule in one of your unboxings.
He has not had time to utilize it, there are a lot of things going on right now and it's just been very busy. Went from Planet X3 to the Commander 16 Prototype project.
@Retroboi Yep, forgot the X in that puppy. I should know better, I'm an admin on that project. :D
Someone needs to build David a custom retrobrighting cabinet with appropriate shallow tray, place to hang sous vide and hinged bank of UV lights.
@@RickBoat We'd need to find a place to put it in his house. ROFL. May have to go into the garage (if we can spare some room with the new Tesla).
@@ChrisKewl two foot by three foot by one foot tall including the light cover. Lean it up against the wall in the garage except when you need it.
I was quite overwhelmed the first time I went to the RICM warehouse. Glad you got to see it while you were here!
Another nice restoration!! Thank you for preserving these pieces of Commodore history
When you’re depressed and your wife left you 17:10 “alcohol seems to work well for this.”
You're such a huge nerd and I love it
Hope to see the Amiga history video soon! Enjoy your content, thanks for taking the time to do it.
Bo Zimmerman ! , a legend of Commodore 64 Scene , nice video , hard to find Commodore PC
I was wondering when you'd pick up a Tesla. Congrats on the new car! I've been driving a Model S for over 5 years and love it.
Cool story bro.
that warehouse looks like that warehouse in Indiana Jones !
=
Alex chan If the ark movie or the start of the crystal skull movie, that was a warehouse with no shells or visible items, only large numbered wooden crates, making it near impossible for anyone not in the know to find anything.
Yes! Restoration episodes are by far my favorites
I have family living in Arlington! We were so close! Keep the good work!
Would love to see a video on that Model 3!
That yellowing on the 386 might be tobacco staining
Impressive restoration keep up the great work!
First time seeing a new video of one of these! So excited lol, these videos are always so satisfying
Me in the future: "Hello kids! When I was your age, we moved our mouse cursor with a mouse. We had to physically move our arms to control our computers! We didn't have neural input devices. Just wait 'till I get going about *keyboards* for text entry!"
Shipping in the US really seems pretty bad- with all my ebay and amazon orders I had ONE package with damaged content in my whole life (in Germany)
I had a couple of PC hardware that was damaged beyond repair shipped through FedUp or United Parcel Smashers years ago, even though, the packaging was put together well. The postal service does a better job.
Retro PC User yeah i tend to ship everything with the postal service
Very nice video, i am looking forward to see the documentary. And that PC-1 is definitely i loved most, what an amazing design.
That PC-1 just looks so cool! Minimalistic and to the point! Great video, man. I did not know Commodore PCs were a thing.
This is some commodore epicness right now.
17:10 When you try to forget your life
Your comment deserves many likes.
Always love watching your videos! Cheers!
I love your videos really good information on pc keep it up I got two off my brother's following you and my dad loves seeing his childhood pc again.