Tomy Tutor - Restoration and Review

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  • @piderman871
    @piderman871 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1823

    Since this thing is Japanese, I'm going to guess that 58.7.18 means July 18th, Shōwa 58, which corresponds to 1983.

    • @Good9tTo9t
      @Good9tTo9t 3 ปีที่แล้ว +58

      Email him about this if you haven't.

    • @tychobra1
      @tychobra1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +69

      Exactly. Interesting, that they do not start with year zero (in this case 1926 is year one, the start of Showa). See also en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_era_name

    • @mfaizsyahmi
      @mfaizsyahmi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      Whoa, you made me realize how long the Showa Era (i.e. the reigning period of said Emperor) really is

    • @christopherhanley507
      @christopherhanley507 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      Correct as I was born in Showa 49 (1974)

    • @erikawhelan4673
      @erikawhelan4673 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      That's my guess as well.

  • @chancelindsey
    @chancelindsey 3 ปีที่แล้ว +607

    This was my first computer. My grandmother found it on clearance for $25 for my Christmas gift in 1983 when I was in the second grade. The book that came with it was amazing and taught me a lot. Eventually to a Commodore 64 in the fourth grade and then IBM compatible (Amstrad 1512) in sixth grade. By junior high I was taking on paid programming jobs and had a real part-time job at age 14 doing dBase. All thanks to my grandmother and the Tomy Tutor!

    • @paco3523
      @paco3523 3 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      New computer every 2 years?

    • @hunterbeachcowkk7hqy786
      @hunterbeachcowkk7hqy786 3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      @@paco3523 lol he rich rich

    • @hurricane567
      @hurricane567 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      I think $25 would have been a good deal depending on your BASIC skills

    • @timsmith2525
      @timsmith2525 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      That's awesome! Never underestimate the power of any technology to motivate and inspire.

    • @christo930
      @christo930 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Look at the pictures of the kids on the marketing material. 95% of home computers were used by one demographic of kids, white boys. Utter fantasy that these were going to be widespread used as computers, even in the white boys demographic.

  • @ociemitchell
    @ociemitchell 3 ปีที่แล้ว +278

    "no parental guidance necessary" the kids were probably the ones explaining the computer to the adults.

    • @hashvolting
      @hashvolting 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      lmao true

    • @clemensgraetz
      @clemensgraetz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      *are still

    • @sneakyplays101
      @sneakyplays101 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      kids learn faster than adults

    • @danek_hren
      @danek_hren ปีที่แล้ว

      So true! 😂

    • @jamesslick4790
      @jamesslick4790 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@clemensgraetz Not really true today. Back then you had to know about HARWARE and SOFTWARE. Today everyone 8 to 80 really only needs to know about the apps they use. Outside of PC gamers (of all ages) whow build (or at leat customize) their own PCs, I think Generation X and early Millennials on average held the edge on knowing both the applications AND the "innards". Boomers had to learn it as adults, Xers (and early Millennials) learned it as kids and teens, in real time when this shit was all new and in great flux, and for the most part you HAD to code if you wanted software. I'm am in no way "dissing" younger folk, It's just that they were born and grew up in a time where thanks to advanced OSs and software, Shit just WORKS. An analogy: I am a late Boomer, I of course grew up with radio ALWAYS being around. My GRANDFATHER knew more ABOUT radio as he was there when it was born and you had to basically "roll your own". Sure, I knew more of the newer music and stations, but he knew how it ACTUALLY worked! My 20 something nieces and nephews still get me to do any hardware upgrades beyond anything plugged in via USB as they wouldn't "dare" open their PC! I go to THEM when I need advice on the latest app i'm trying to figure out.

  • @jptech57
    @jptech57 3 ปีที่แล้ว +200

    The date you see is of the old Japanese "Showa Era" format. They used to go by the year of the current dynasty, so in this case it is year 58 of the Showa dynasty, which started in 1926. The year in western terms is 1983, so the date listed is July 18, 1983.

    • @JustWasted3HoursHere
      @JustWasted3HoursHere 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Wouldn't that make it 1984 (1926 + 58)?

    • @haweater1555
      @haweater1555 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      @@JustWasted3HoursHere Emperor Hirohito started his reign on Dec. 25, 1926, so the first year (Showa 1), was very short, and the second year started Jan. 1, 1927. In practice, a certain Japanese symbol unique to the era preceded the year number to avoid confusion, but I guess it was unnecessary or the symbol was not supported by the date code printing machine.

    • @JustWasted3HoursHere
      @JustWasted3HoursHere 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@haweater1555 That's strange that the Emperor's reign goes by the calendar year rather than by the actual start of his reign. Thanks for the explanation, though.

    • @StormsandSaugeye
      @StormsandSaugeye ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Really glad someone else caught that it was Showa dating.

    • @Felice_Enellen
      @Felice_Enellen ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's simultaneously disappointing and a relief when someone else has already explained what I though I could explain for everyone. 😜

  • @JamesCoyle95
    @JamesCoyle95 3 ปีที่แล้ว +285

    Pretty sure the date is YY-M-DD with 58 meaning year 58 of the Showa era. That would make it 18th July 1983.

    • @st3sunusedacc
      @st3sunusedacc 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      The 𝙡𝙖𝙥𝙩𝙤𝙥 of 1983

    • @bf0189
      @bf0189 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Was going to say the same thing!

    • @allluckyseven
      @allluckyseven 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      So, it's a Showa, not a Growa.

    • @johnjoyce
      @johnjoyce 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      This is correct

    • @projectnerdvana2820
      @projectnerdvana2820 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lol showa era.

  • @wal
    @wal 3 ปีที่แล้ว +371

    Seeing the transition of cleaning and retro-brighting are almost as satisfying as seeing this almost 40yr old computer in action. Great vid as always!

    • @bonzainews
      @bonzainews 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I guess I'm not the only audio head to watch the 8 bit guy. 👍

    • @christo930
      @christo930 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      He did a terrible job! The cassette doesn't match the computer. That's the problem with retrobrite. It's just bleaching. Worse, it is a temporary fix at best. Only now it will never match because the computer has been bleached too white.

    • @bonzainews
      @bonzainews 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@christo930 cry me a river... it look 100x better than before...

    • @christo930
      @christo930 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@bonzainews It looked 1000 times better when it was only cleaned and not bleached. There was virtually no yellowing. It should not have been retrobrited. Basically retrobriting should never be done except under limited circumstances and especially NOT something so rare.

    • @DrWho2008t101
      @DrWho2008t101 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      This brings back memories. I remembered this as if it was yesterday.

  • @vwestlife
    @vwestlife 3 ปีที่แล้ว +238

    The noise on cassette playback is probably from a dirty record/play switch. Open it up and spray some contact cleaner in the switch (it's on the circuit board and mechanically linked to the Record button). Or a quick fix is to put in a blank tape and repeatedly press Record, then Stop, then Record, then Stop, etc. a bunch of times to try to scrape off the oxidation just by mechanically operating the switch.

    • @Renato-ix1nz
      @Renato-ix1nz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +46

      @Karl Jansen don't worry, I ask him

    • @Alpha-1-Omega
      @Alpha-1-Omega 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      @Karl Jansen Indeed don't worry, I also ask him.

    • @cfothough
      @cfothough 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      @Karl Jansen I asked

    • @doggerproductions
      @doggerproductions 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      @Karl Jansen I don't remember anyone asking for your opinion on his opinion 😁

    • @Michael_A_Lewis
      @Michael_A_Lewis 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @Karl Jansen I also ask him.

  • @WarpRulez
    @WarpRulez 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    In the 1980's some kids were playing with some toy guns that shoot plastic pellets. 35 years later some random guy finds one of the pellets.

  • @TristanSamuel
    @TristanSamuel 3 ปีที่แล้ว +265

    "I have been sent some Huggies!"
    -The 8-Bit Guy

    • @mfaizsyahmi
      @mfaizsyahmi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      YTP fodder right here

    • @strangejune
      @strangejune 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Hmm

    • @NathanChisholm041
      @NathanChisholm041 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      There are grown men that wear them and act as a baby! true story lol

    • @monotonehell
      @monotonehell 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Proceeds to open the box from the bottom...

    • @musashigundoh
      @musashigundoh 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@NathanChisholm041 Well this channel is about a grown man playing with toys so...

  • @pineappleroad
    @pineappleroad 3 ปีที่แล้ว +250

    "Maybe I just haven't found the any key yet"
    [Execute uncontrollable laughter]

    • @Honeydwarf85
      @Honeydwarf85 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Seinfeld laugh track ENGAGED

    • @livinlicious
      @livinlicious 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Maybe ctrl, or pig up?

    • @PAKTC
      @PAKTC 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      [click]

    • @inhex1603
      @inhex1603 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      >PowerOS.init.EXE.Drive8
      >PowerOS.initEXE2.2.execute.mode
      >PowerOS.execute.d8.uncontrollable_laughter
      >OUTPUT = >console<
      >console

    • @warmarin
      @warmarin 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      The Simpsons reference?

  • @enderlore1337
    @enderlore1337 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    0:11 the rarest computer of all time,
    the huggies diapers

  • @manuldepokas
    @manuldepokas 3 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    This was probably the 80's computer equivalent of Lee Carvallo's Putting Challenge. I can imagine how many kids got disappointed on the Christmas morning, 83.

  • @mfaizsyahmi
    @mfaizsyahmi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +72

    What surprises me most is that I owned a Tomy Tutor, an apparently rare computer that even the 8-bit guy has never heard of! Sadly it was now stashed somewhere, or already chucked away.

    • @compactflash
      @compactflash 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I still have mine, with all 10 North American games (plus seven of the Japan-only games)

    • @thejunkman
      @thejunkman 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I had one too. It went to the local Auction house with other junk during spring cleaning in the early 90s. I never had any carts for it or tape drive so I couldn't save anything.

    • @filipvanvooren9504
      @filipvanvooren9504 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      We have a section on the Atariage forum dedicated to the Tomy Tutor and comparable systems. If you are interested in technical details and homebrew multicarts then checkout: atariage.com/forums/forum/345-tomy-tutor-cc40-992-998-cortex-990-mini/

  • @jordanrhea1504
    @jordanrhea1504 3 ปีที่แล้ว +74

    8:00 "Now time for alcohol" I thought for a second this video was about to get crazy.

  • @HornetKingOfficial
    @HornetKingOfficial 3 ปีที่แล้ว +116

    I love your videos, man!

    • @davidofficial5690
      @davidofficial5690 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Me too

    • @qoqqoqoqoqow
      @qoqqoqoqoqow 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      + that means me 2

    • @peeweesbigadventure1109
      @peeweesbigadventure1109 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @Derek can't agree more

    • @oliversakic5907
      @oliversakic5907 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @Derek he didn’t destroy any computer. This is destroying a computer: th-cam.com/video/ptFTEQZBXr8/w-d-xo.html
      What he did was just a attempt to restore it but accidentally broke it (from the inside, from the outside it still looks perfectly fine.) and that also doesn’t change the fact that it was already broken so it really didn’t matter that he made it even worse. It’s just like breaking a already broken glass and then getting a lot of people mad about it.

    • @MrCalldean
      @MrCalldean 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Derek th-cam.com/video/SYopBjwhF1M/w-d-xo.html comments open on this one. Quite a bullish response from him in here.

  • @privatehand
    @privatehand 3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    I was a heavy TI-99 4A user back in the day and found one of these Tomy Tutors on close-out at a local mall somewhere around 1986-87. I paid under $30 for the computer and a handful of carts. I was fascinated by its similarity to the TI-99 and hoped I could make it perform a few tricks for the user group but lack of storage put the kibosh on anything more than just a demo. I sold it to a lucky new owner a few years later. Thanks for sharing this VERY niche machine with your audience.

  • @override7486
    @override7486 3 ปีที่แล้ว +86

    I love this zoom-in timelapses of cleaning. Weirdly satisfying...

    • @jason_a_smith_gb
      @jason_a_smith_gb 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wish I could clean that fast! Guess this is The 8-Bit Guy’s first To-my! :D. Interesting video as always. Looking forward to My Second Studio.

    • @nataliekate2176
      @nataliekate2176 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The retro brighting process is my fave bit lol. So satisfying!

  • @MontieMongoose
    @MontieMongoose 3 ปีที่แล้ว +173

    When is Planet X4 coming out for the Tomy Tutor?

  • @gregx5096
    @gregx5096 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    It's so satisfying to watch 8-Bit Guy clean, I can only imagine how satisfying it must be for him to actually put in the work and get the results he does.

  • @simsanutiy
    @simsanutiy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    "Strange use o that connector"
    All of the soviet audio equipment: Am I a joke to you?

    • @Lexilove2016
      @Lexilove2016 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      (to David) "you have bee accused of anti Soviet behavior"

    • @sisconhimejoshi
      @sisconhimejoshi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      and not only soviet, i've seen quite a bit of west german hifi stuff equipped only with DIN and no RCA. The standart lived a bit longer in europe, seems like it. But damn right, it stuck around in post-soviet space for way too long. We still keep a 1993 boombox my granma recieved as payment (she worked at resistor factory and in the early 90s it didn't have money for wages but stocked goods had to go somewhere) and it has nothing but those DIN connectors. I ended up soldering a DIN to 3,5 mm cable for transfering stuff and boy, those connectors are such a pain to solder.

  • @dwaynezilla
    @dwaynezilla 3 ปีที่แล้ว +263

    "Now time for alcohol"
    Me too, thanks

    • @slipcurve1410
      @slipcurve1410 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      that's me at friday afternoon

    • @aptiveviennapro
      @aptiveviennapro 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I think he meant isopropyl alcohol.

    • @Skylizard-vb7wl
      @Skylizard-vb7wl 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      When I get home from work

    • @kolgax2064
      @kolgax2064 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      When it's that dirty you definitely need some alcohols

    • @PAKTC
      @PAKTC 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I don't trink alcoholololoa shhdhsa

  • @MrEightThreeOne
    @MrEightThreeOne 3 ปีที่แล้ว +70

    When I first looked at this I actually thought it was a toy rather than a full-fledged computer. Having "tutor" in the name and it appearing to have a very education-oriented type of advertising didn't exactly help matters in that. In fact, the set as a whole makes me think of a worn out 1st grade classroom set piece, the kind that the teacher's been using for a few years and looks completely ravaged (the cartridge being marked on in crayon especially). That said, with how dirty it looked it came out great once it was all restored. This was an interesting thing to learn about considering I hadn't heard of it before you made the video. Good stuff!

    • @SpearM3064
      @SpearM3064 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @TutorialsByKevin Patreon early release. They get to watch the video a few hours before everybody else.

    • @ClayMann
      @ClayMann 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I felt the same. I was really wondering why he would even bother restoring this but it turns out its not a bad little machine at all. Little kid me back when this came out would have hated it. I was such a computer snob from the earliest 8bits believing only Commodore and Sinclair could make something worth owning.

    • @haweater1555
      @haweater1555 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      When I first saw the thumbnail for this video, I thought this "educational computer-thing" was something that V-TECH typically made. The high retail price surprised me, thought it would be some cheap thing sold at Sears.

    • @MrDuncl
      @MrDuncl 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ClayMann Just don't watch the 8 Bit Guys Sinclair review. Of course the best things about the two computers you mention were the affordable price and the huge Games Catalogue. @Haweater Somehow I doubt if they sold many of these at full price. Back around 1983 every toy company thought they had to produce a computer. Mattel and Mettoy I'm looking at you.

  • @heathwellsNZ
    @heathwellsNZ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    7:59... "now time for alcohol" - oh, you meant for the case... oh well...

    • @TheMetalIsNeon
      @TheMetalIsNeon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It's the only way to deal with Techmoan stalking you

  • @mattnde
    @mattnde 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I'm waiting for the 8 Bit Guy branded (or at least endorsed) range of brushes, wipes, cleaning tools and of course, solvents

  • @RandiRain
    @RandiRain 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I've been waiting for you to do this video. The Tomy Tutor was my very first computer. I got it for Christmas as a kid. All I had was the computer. No tape deck, no games. But it is how I learned to program, because that's all I could do with it, and then lose it all when powered off.

  • @TonyPadgett
    @TonyPadgett 3 ปีที่แล้ว +134

    I lived in Japan for 15 years so I took a look at the name "Tomy". In Japanese it is "トミー" or in Roman letters Tomii. My guess is that that would look too weird so they "Westernized" the name to Tomy (same as with the pronunciation and spelling of Sony rather than Sonii).

    • @lsylsy2
      @lsylsy2 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @TutorialsByKevin Maybe patreon supporters can get the link earlier

    • @marinacelada3246
      @marinacelada3246 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yes, I know the Romanji names are sometimes different from the actual Western-languages Latin-alphabet names.

    • @OrloxPhoenix
      @OrloxPhoenix 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Can someone tell me what are the 2 pronunciations? I heard the same word

    • @TonyPadgett
      @TonyPadgett 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@OrloxPhoenix Toe Mee

    • @SinKillerJ
      @SinKillerJ 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      In the modern TakaraTomy ad's (there was a merger) they say it like Tommy.

  • @jordancobb509
    @jordancobb509 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I actually had this thing for a while. I didn't have any cartridges for it, and when I showed my mom that all it could do was the built in graphics program she took it back.

  • @alexmcd378
    @alexmcd378 3 ปีที่แล้ว +85

    On the off chance you haven't gotten this comment and weren't aware, the methanol in denatured alcohol can be absorbed through skin and will cause vision deterioration over time. Might be a concern since you are exposed more than average it seems. Might want to wear gloves. Apologies for the probable repeated comment.

    • @luansm
      @luansm 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      wow, I didn't know this

    • @TechBench
      @TechBench 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      But is he using _denatured_ alcohol? Ethanol (grain alcohol) and Isopropyl alcohol are perfectly safe to use for cleaning in any concentration. Of course, methanol is terribly bad for you.

    • @alexmcd378
      @alexmcd378 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@TechBench He is. You can see the label briefly, and he uses it on other videos as well. It could also be that he has a brand that uses something other than methanol for the denaturing which doesn't soak through skin.

    • @luansm
      @luansm 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@alexmcd378 it has always bugged me. Like, everyone else uses isopropyl alcohol (including myself). I don't know why he uses denatured alcohol, IPA works much better for his needs

    • @alexmcd378
      @alexmcd378 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@luansm Well, I'm using denatured as well right now, because IPA is hard to find during the pandemic, and when you do find it you can usually only buy one bottle. But it's temporary for me.

  • @20windfisch11
    @20windfisch11 3 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    The 5-pin DIN connector was not that unpopular for tape devices. It was the standard for reel-to-reel and cassette decks in East Germany and our own KC85 computer line used that connector for the tape drive as well.

    • @jordanhazen7761
      @jordanhazen7761 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Early microcomputers often used a DIN-5 for cassette I/O (e.g. most TRS-80s, original IBM PC), but its pinout was not compatible with the DIN-5 on European audio equipment. With no need for stereo, some pins were used to control the cassette motor (remote pause), and the computer supplied microphone-level rather than line-level audio, intended to connect via a breakout cable to Ear/Mic/Remote jacks on a typical shoebox cassette deck.

    • @guerrillaradio9953
      @guerrillaradio9953 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jordanhazen7761 Haha, beat me to the TRS-80. My model 3 has one. Still works. It would probably survive a nuclear EMP.

    • @bobblum5973
      @bobblum5973 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      My '70s era Sansui stereo amplifier has a 5-pin DIN jack for connecting to a tape deck, one cable for left and right line-level inputs and outputs. Obviously the Tomy Tutor wouldn't use that pinout, but I'm curious what it is set up to use. As others have said, other computers used it in some fashion.

    • @Light-DelaBlue
      @Light-DelaBlue ปีที่แล้ว

      my Sony reel to reel and most cassette deck got it. is realy superior to RCA one cable for do alls. super handy.

  • @Lexilove2016
    @Lexilove2016 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    0:20 damn I was getting ready for a diaper review

  • @josephjester4917
    @josephjester4917 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I love how when you speed up the video while you're scrubbing components with the brush that it immediately sounds like you're using a power tool instead of doing it by hand. lol

  • @michaelrains6731
    @michaelrains6731 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love this channel, cant wait to see how the new studio turns out. Keep up the great work.

  • @bsharpmajorscale
    @bsharpmajorscale 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Yes, but the system being new to you means you're the best to review it, since you don't have nostalgia for it. :P

  • @johneygd
    @johneygd 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    That fast forward cleaning was the absolute coolest part

  • @plok7533
    @plok7533 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Watching your videos is like resetting my nervous system and my mind just focuses 100% of its attention to the video. Not only are your videos educational and entertaining, they're also therapeutic and relaxing. Thank you for what you do! I have been watching you for years now and I just wanted you to know how much you have helped me.

  • @MyChannel-rf8ic
    @MyChannel-rf8ic 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Really enjoyed this. Looking forward to seeing more about your new studio and field trips! Thanks for sharing your entertaining videos.

  • @Nick_1911
    @Nick_1911 3 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    5:17 ... i know that as standart din 5 connector , it was used mostly(and not only) in audio equipment in Eastern Europe in the 70s 80s eaven in the early 90s

    • @theseob
      @theseob 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Also normal audio connection in western europe

    • @ScreaminJoeBlade
      @ScreaminJoeBlade 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Yup pretty standard cassette port for MSX computers and the TRS80 if I recall.

    • @BrainSlugs83
      @BrainSlugs83 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      All of my TRS-80 stuff used that connector. Also the early IBM PC.

    • @user-jw9hf3hw2f
      @user-jw9hf3hw2f 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      That DIN-5 is even used in my 1968 USSR radio as AUX port

    • @johndododoe1411
      @johndododoe1411 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@user-jw9hf3hw2f Standard DIN tape/aux ports are in/out with the middle pin being ground, one side in, the other out. So it allows both recording from the radio and playback through the radio speakers. 5-pin uses the two extra pins for the other stereo channel. Everything is line level, except microphone and record player connections, which are straight from the physical sensor.

  • @Tivian_
    @Tivian_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    17:25 As someone in my early 20s I can tell you that you forgot to cut out the high pitched noise in pretty much every shot with CRT in it :D

  • @jokebone1
    @jokebone1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you for the repair and review! My mom bought me one of those on one of those late night home shopping shows. I am almost positive it was sold for a lot cheaper than $300. Now I know one of the reasons! Good memories though. It was my first experience with programming. Thanks 👍

  • @Spinker1
    @Spinker1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your videos are a bright spot. Thank you for your labor of love.

  • @BrianRRenfro
    @BrianRRenfro 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    "99 percent sure it will short something out" I love how David is taking that one in stride while most dudes on youtube would be crying about the comments on the net. WE LOVE YOU DAVID!

    • @ryballs4569
      @ryballs4569 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Disabling comments was not exactly taking it in his stride..

    • @retrojacksgamingtunes2459
      @retrojacksgamingtunes2459 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ryballs4569 Also true.

    • @KasumiKenshirou
      @KasumiKenshirou 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ryballs4569 Do you really want the comments flooded with idiots that didn't even watch the video ranting about how he destroyed an already broken computer that they didn't even know existed until some crazy person on twitter told them to be mad about it?

    • @PhilScudella
      @PhilScudella 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I love David , Am I the only one brainstorming cartridge adapter with fusible traces for each pin to test other carts

    • @willsofer3679
      @willsofer3679 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      He didn't take it well, initially. Like, at all. But he's taking the right approach now.
      And it's addressing one of the more reasonable things he did in that video.
      Honestly, there are going to be dremel jokes for the rest of his TH-cam career. It's unavoidable. And those are even partly tongue in cheek, as it's directed toward his audience, not him. Might as well try to take it stride.

  • @th3WhiteKnight
    @th3WhiteKnight 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Honestly, the sound of the intro alone brings so much joy to me. I love this show.

    • @pauligrossinoz
      @pauligrossinoz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      If the intro music ever changes ... I will break down and cry! 😞
      Then I'll start on online petition to have it put back to its rightful place at the start of these videos. 😁

    • @LittleDancerByGrace
      @LittleDancerByGrace 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sometimes I go back and play the intro again because it just makes me so happy.

    • @Tom2404
      @Tom2404 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I like the old into more. Almost nostalgic.

  • @bobbobson4069
    @bobbobson4069 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    It is the highlight of my day to watch a new episode from the 8 Bit Guy! He's got a wonderful personality, always curious and adventurous. The videos are professionally produced and I appreciate his beautiful commentary during the sections where he handles the equipment. To call him a "TH-camr" is a disservice to his content. These are documentaries. Brilliant!

  • @vanrose9857
    @vanrose9857 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great preview of upcoming content. Looks like a lot of great videos coming up!

  • @RCAvhstape
    @RCAvhstape 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I always love a good retro-brighting episode.

  • @ferrellsl
    @ferrellsl 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I had one of these in college and wish I had kept it, but at the time it was near impossible to find peripherals for it so i sold it. It was being sold at a Radio Shack in one of the malls in the Tampa Bay area. I ended up getting a C64 and then an Amiga later on. The Amiga was years ahead of its time and served me well.

  • @Pau_Pau9
    @Pau_Pau9 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome as always,
    Very excited about the new 8-bit Studio David!

  • @TheHylianBatman
    @TheHylianBatman 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Well, what a machine.
    So much out there. Always interesting to dive into the history of these things.

  • @GELTONZ
    @GELTONZ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    THEY HAVE MR.DO! ON THIS THING?! Crap now I need one. I'm a Mr.Do! collector. I thought I knew about all the versions of that game. No one ever said "Oh yeah there's also a Tomy Tutor version"!

  • @MichaelObsieger
    @MichaelObsieger 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great video! nice to see this rare and underrated computer here. There are now good multi cards, including adapters for the expansion port. A small scene too. I am currently developing some games

    • @johndododoe1411
      @johndododoe1411 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      How much does it internally differ from the 99/4 ? Does it still treat the address lines of the 8-bit memories as a memory mapped I/O port?

    • @MichaelObsieger
      @MichaelObsieger 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@johndododoe1411 Yes, still 8-bit. But the better cpu the tms9995 has build in ram useful for the WP, also the onchip timer are cool. Not forget the new instructions

  • @akvammen
    @akvammen 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your restoration videos brings me calmness in difficult times. Thank you!

  • @tsimmons12
    @tsimmons12 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow, big stuff coming up soon. Thanks for the preview, I'm very excited for these upcoming videos.

  • @theannoyedmrfloyd3998
    @theannoyedmrfloyd3998 3 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    Sarah Purcell, rhymes with Duracell. pur SELL not 'pursle.'
    In Japan, the company is known as Takara Tomy.

    • @SonOfFurzehatt
      @SonOfFurzehatt 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I can't speak for Sarah Purcell, but the correct pronunciation of the English classical composer is 'Pursle'.

    • @Gappasaurus
      @Gappasaurus 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      It’s only been Takara-Tomy since the two companies merged in 2006 😉

    • @chrisfreemesser5707
      @chrisfreemesser5707 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@SonOfFurzehatt In Sarah's case it's definitely pur-SELL...I'm old enough to have watched Real People back in the late 1970s (don't judge, we only had 4 channels back then, lol)

    • @theannoyedmrfloyd3998
      @theannoyedmrfloyd3998 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@chrisfreemesser5707 Real People was the TH-cam of the 1970s.

    • @kennybiel9688
      @kennybiel9688 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Give David a break. Like me, he only speaks Texan.

  • @rome0610
    @rome0610 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    5:13 Here in Europe this type of connector was very common for audio, so no big surprise to see it here...

  • @james2175
    @james2175 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love the sound effects for the cleaning segments. Such dedication!

  • @josehereter4062
    @josehereter4062 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Always waiting for the Next episode! Thank you 8bit guy.

  • @leokimvideo
    @leokimvideo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    There is hope, TH-cam has you on my homepage

  • @jakobcallsen540
    @jakobcallsen540 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The connector for the tape recorder was actually pretty standard for connecting tape machines! Also often used in hifi equipment

  • @yuchong1704
    @yuchong1704 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love your cleaning videos. Strangely satisfying. Your resilience is commendable.

  • @Swapzter
    @Swapzter 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I really love watching those restauration videos in this channel. So satisfying :)

  • @thejunkman
    @thejunkman 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I had one of these back in the day. TOMY now has all of Ertls diecast toys and all made in China versus Iowa :(

  • @matt_b...
    @matt_b... 3 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    8 bit guy:"lets go ahead and start disassembling"
    Johnny 5:"NO DISSASSEMBLE!!"

    • @Christopher-N
      @Christopher-N 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Awesome reference... but fortunately, these machines _can_ be disassembled for cleaning and repair. Given Johnny 5's limited hardware, I suspect his sentience could possibly be attributed to tin whiskers acting as neurons (see _Whisker (metallurgy)_ on Wikipedia), but that's just a hypothesis.

    • @elizabethandrews3714
      @elizabethandrews3714 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Disassemble??!? Dead!!

    • @MonoChorMe
      @MonoChorMe 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      or... like the French pantomime guy:
      "Ohhh noo! I am ehh dammajjjjj" 😂

    • @jsmythib
      @jsmythib 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Johnny would be really happy to have an qualified friend refurbish after a few decades!

    • @hc130radio
      @hc130radio 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      After the hack job from the last video? You bet.

  • @xyz2112zyx
    @xyz2112zyx 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the new video. We were expecting this for a while!

  • @PaulinesPastimes
    @PaulinesPastimes 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice clean up, looks as good as new. Looking forward to all the progress with the studio. Cheers

  • @aaronjamt
    @aaronjamt 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Adrian Black from Adrian's Digital Basement would be proud of your use of deoxit

    • @bobblum5973
      @bobblum5973 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Note that the carbon contact restorer he _didn't_ end up using is also a CAIG product, like DeoxIT. Back in the early 80s at work we used their Cramolin product, which contained TF solvents, now banned. DeoxIT is actually multiple products, they have one that is safe for conductive plastic controls.

    • @aaronjamt
      @aaronjamt 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@bobblum5973 TIL

  • @dan_loup
    @dan_loup 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Ah the 9918, can do many, many things. hardware sprites, tiles, refresh DRAM so you don't need extra circuitry... but the color red aint one.

    • @dan_loup
      @dan_loup 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @referral madness You would need to ask nvidia for that. But it does save a lot of time on the CPU side, as you need to update a tilemap instead of individual pixels, and give you sprites (albeit only 4 per scanline) for essentially free.

    • @jecelassumpcaojr890
      @jecelassumpcaojr890 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @referral madness It doesn't execute any code, so it would be best to just call it a screen buffer with sprites. There were similar circuits back then like the VIC II or the NES PPU. But it isn't always easy to tell the difference - the Atari 800 chips handled fancy display lists that almost felt like code while the Amiga chips they evolved into actually could execute limited code.

  • @CZPC
    @CZPC 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Haven't seen one of your videos in a good bit (thanks youtube recommendations). Great to see your still active.

  • @Mr_Top_Hat_Jones
    @Mr_Top_Hat_Jones 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks, David. I had to go watch the music video for ‘Another Night’ before I could finish the video. I haven’t heard that in years. What a banger!

  • @ericsills6484
    @ericsills6484 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    In 8-Bit Unboxing from September 2017, you got a strange cartridge that was actually for an educational kids' computer from 1984 called the Teach-a-tron. You should get ahold of that computer and do an episode about it. As I write this, there actually is one on eBay.

  • @bigfatpieceofpoo
    @bigfatpieceofpoo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Favorite quote "Now time for alcohol" Amen

  • @TinkersKustomPaintball
    @TinkersKustomPaintball 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    TH-cam for some reason recommended your channel to me despite me not knowing anything about computers or anything discussed here but I still enjoyed watching the restoration!

  • @thomashartwig5059
    @thomashartwig5059 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for this "Back To The Roots" Episode. It is sometimes good to know, that looking back to the beginning brings warm memories. Now I am looking forward to your new studio! Greetings from Northern Germany.

  • @allluckyseven
    @allluckyseven 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    When you're retrobrighting some piece of plastic that starts floating like the case for the tape recorder, I believe a shot glass or something equally heavy and transparent would work better.

    • @h2o2go141
      @h2o2go141 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I thought of this too, however it likely wouldn't make much of a difference because glass is fairly opaque to UV light. A better solution would be to hot glue or tie a heavy nut to the part with a length of thin fishing line.

    • @allluckyseven
      @allluckyseven 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@h2o2go141 Yeah, that sounds like a good option.

  • @MrZenerTech
    @MrZenerTech 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Regarding the polarity of an adapter:
    If you cannot find an adapter with the correct polarity, then pick the best possible match for an adapter..
    And..
    Cut the cord on the output side of the adapter.
    Splice the output cord in reverse of how it was originally; i.e. positive to negative and vice versa.
    Some solder, shrink tubing, & skill will result in a cable looking really good an most importantly, a perfectly functional adapter.

    • @vhfgamer
      @vhfgamer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I did that for my mother's casio keyboard.

    • @serpent77
      @serpent77 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Or better yet, if you can find a power brick that isn't welded closed, open it, desolder the cable, flip it, resolder it, and snap the case back together, and have something that looks pretty much stock without shrink wrap on the cable 👍

    • @muf1772
      @muf1772 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      A lot of eighties stuff (if not all) uses centre negative DC plugs. Surprised that 8 bit guy doesn't have a stack of compatible adapters.

  • @WillayG
    @WillayG 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have no idea why but when I'm anxious or down, just watching this channel really helps.

  • @adityasanthanam1945
    @adityasanthanam1945 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Happy to see you back with another great video. Thank you for sharing with us a cool computer most of us have not seen.

  • @gavinthecrafter
    @gavinthecrafter 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    11:46 I'd love to hear the backstory behind this

  • @Pawxboxpc126
    @Pawxboxpc126 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    "I have been sent some huggies."
    -David Murrey "The 8-Bit Guy" 2020

  • @Schimnesthai
    @Schimnesthai 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I can't wait for what you have in store, good video as always David, thanks.

  • @sachinkainth9508
    @sachinkainth9508 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I don't know why, but these videos are so satisfying to watch.

  • @douro20
    @douro20 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Don't forget that the Intellivision had a 16-bit CPU- the General Instrument CP-1600. It was probably the only consumer product to use that CPU.

  • @Spottedfeather
    @Spottedfeather 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Never knew Tomy Tutor was an actual computer. I had, and still have, a little kid's toy, Tomy Tutor Play Computer.

  • @macdaniel6029
    @macdaniel6029 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    17:32 "I will not even think of powering it on because I´m 99% sure something will short out" Nice :)

  • @trudel669
    @trudel669 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I missed those restoration videos so much! Thanks David.

  • @TheTerminalRaptor
    @TheTerminalRaptor 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    So I take it there's a TI-99/4a video coming soon, or have I missed the video where he perviously showed off the footage in this one?

  • @theantithesis1
    @theantithesis1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    "pur-SELL"
    That's just going to keep happening.

    • @paco3523
      @paco3523 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What does that mean?

    • @jbucata
      @jbucata 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@paco3523 He misprounounced the last name of the advertising spokeswoman. (I was about to make the same comment since I remember seeing her on TV back in the 80's also.)
      It seems that it's going to be a thing that he accidentally mispronounces names that he's only ever seen in print before. :D

    • @rjonzun5828
      @rjonzun5828 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same. I used to love that show when i was a kid. :/

  • @BigboiiTone
    @BigboiiTone 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The time lapse of the case cleaning might be the most satisfying thing I've seen on you tube

  • @PartyDude_19
    @PartyDude_19 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Tomy Tutor looks like such a cool computer and this is one of if not the best video on it on TH-cam.

    • @compactflash
      @compactflash 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It is a cool little system.

  • @ericnishi685
    @ericnishi685 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The "58" in the date of manufacture on the sticker is the Japanese era number.
    It is not the (Christian Era)AD.
    The "58" is the year Showa 58.
    In other words, it refers to the year 1983.
    Even Japanese people sometimes get confused between the Japanese era number and the(Christian Era) AD.

    • @ericnishi685
      @ericnishi685 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      estern calendar year→ AD

  • @RobotJeeg
    @RobotJeeg 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    It's fun that when you say "Tomy" in two different pronunciations I only listen one! In my language we don't care too much about two sounds so similar. So I listen you saying "I say Tomy but they told me I should say Tomy"...eh eh...so weird...I just ear the same sounds. Stupid comment I know but funny for me...

    • @yeet8957
      @yeet8957 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      May I ask which language you speak because that sounds quite interesting 😅

    • @TheRyujinLP
      @TheRyujinLP 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Not stupid at all, it's always interesting to learn about how other cultures do things especially when they have a different way of doing something we just take for granted.

    • @MattiasKesti
      @MattiasKesti 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@yeet8957 Judging from Koutetsu Jeeg's uploaded videos, I would say Italian. This might be a tad insensitive, but try saying "It's a-me, Tomy" and "It's a-me, Tommy" with a Mario voice. Sounds pretty similar in my head. 😅

    • @Curt_Sampson
      @Curt_Sampson 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Japanese has that exact issue with some phonemes, such as English's "r" and "l" sounds. The initial consonant of らりるれろ(ra ri ru re ro) is somewhere between "r" and "l", and substitutes for both when bringing English words into Japanese.

    • @MattiasKesti
      @MattiasKesti 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Curt_Sampson Yeah, as a Swede I have to make a very conscious effort to not pronounce chip as ship, joke as yoke or booze as boos as most Swedish dialects consider the sounds in the beginning of those word pairs as variants of the same sound. On the other hand I have to remember that English doesn't make any difference between Tommy and Tommi/Tommie, while Swedish has a distinct y sound.

  • @Clozof
    @Clozof 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video Dave! We missed you!

  • @charlesbaldo
    @charlesbaldo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I worked at Leons in Rochester NY a HUGE computer and typewriter store. Leon sold everything, Apple, Atari, commodore, Sinclair, Kaypro, TI. He bought a dozen of these and we never sold one. Sent them back to the distributor.

  • @Benzene265
    @Benzene265 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    3:00 I can’t believe the plague of reality TV has been around since the early 80s.

    • @stevethepocket
      @stevethepocket 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      It's been around much longer than that. _Candid Camera_ started airing in the '40s.

  • @QunMang
    @QunMang 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Several people holding a grudge from the semi-recent rare (potentially) computer video judging by the downvotes. At least, I don't see what's in this particular video that would generate downvotes {shrug}.
    Anyway, I've never actually encountered this computer before though I am well aware of the Tomy brand (and did know how to pronounce it- I guess unlike David I must have heard the name spoken in my youth).

  • @falxie_
    @falxie_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really looking forward to seeing the progress on your new studio

  • @danestegman155
    @danestegman155 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good video! I do remember this system! It is so much like the TI-99 4/A. I don't remember seeing them in the stores, back in the 80's!

  • @NeilHodges
    @NeilHodges 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Since the topic of future videos was brought up, are there still plans to cover the Amiga in your Commodore History series? I hope this isn't asked too often.

    • @BertGrink
      @BertGrink 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Speaking of which, we're also still waiting for the follow-up to the ZX81/Timex-Sinclair 1000 video, which he promised ages ago.

    • @kimkimpa5150
      @kimkimpa5150 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@BertGrink And also episode 2 of Apple and Steve Jobs' biggest mistakes :)

    • @QunMang
      @QunMang 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Well, he is known as *8* - bit guy after all... kidding- I would be interested in this as well. I seem to remember mention of a Laser computer video as well once he got more Laser brand computers. I was interested to hear what he had to say about the Laser 3000, a cheap Apple ][ clone that wasn't 100% compatible I used to own.

  • @anotheruser9876
    @anotheruser9876 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Time to show the Tomy Tutone (A.k.a. The Jenny) on 8-Bit Keys.

  • @jama211
    @jama211 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Much better restoration work in this one, you were very careful with everything. Props.

  • @persian2uk
    @persian2uk 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good to have you back 😊