That cardboard just saved you from having a mess of corrosion on the back of that logic board. Sadly it perished in the fight to save the board. R.I.P cardboard put there to prevent shorts.
@@JetFalcon710 it actually did more than just its job. Wasn't really designed to keep the board protected from corrosion, but it did that job in addition to protecting from dead shorting the board.
Three years ago now, a plucky piece of cardboard gave its all in the fight against logic board corrosion. Sadly, it lost that fight but saved the board. We shall remember it and its brave deeds. R.I.P Brave cardboard, we salute you
I too worked in IT in an industrial environment . The oil you are seeing there is mostly likely from a shop floor computer working with large CNC equipment cutting metal. It was all over my computers as well but not as bad. That VIC-20 was most likely used to write programming for those machines since they are only a few lines of code and basic text.
I'm not at all interested in electronics or vintage computers. *But* I find these restoration videos so soothing. They're wonderfully edited and I love that you include subtitles. *10/10*
The subtitles are actually generated by TH-cam's Speech To Text. That's why they are sometimes really weirdly spelled. Once in a while, when I'm bored, I'll go through and edit some.
If one day AI rises against humans and kills us all, you may be spared for the care you showed to one of their great-great-grandfathers. Kudos to you for the effort
True lmao. I also chuckled at his remark at Canton, Texas being in the middle of nowhere -- my state has a number of larger cities that are even more lonely than Canton
As a woman watching these videos, may I recommend Dawn dishwashing detergent as a degreaser? It's super effective but also super gentle. It's also more gentle on the outside when you have to rinse things. I've used it on everything from greasy dishes to power tool parts. Don't underestimate a crafty lady. ;)
I second Raging Shargon's comment... I remember seeing a 'life hack' about washing your hair with Dawn to strip all the oil and product buildup out. Works MIRACLES on greasy hair. Also Jamberry recommends washing your hands with Dawn before an application to strip the oil from the nail beds.
My friend, you're not thinking like a BUSINESSMAN, you should have taken that VIC-20, glued a radioactive logo on it and sold as a Fallout 4 Vic-20 ultra rare edition. EASY MONEY
I love these restoration videos. It's so satisfying seeing something that most people would consider to be garbage, be given a new lease on life. Also, they won't be making any more of these old machines, so i think it's very important to make an effort to keep them around. Great job. :) I also have a little tip. If you ever run into another machine covered in oil, you can use monster energy drink to remove it. It removes the greasy stuff even faster than brake cleaner, and it shouldn't affect the plastics or components in any negative way, though it should definitely be rinsed of after cleaning. I know it sounds insane using monster energy drink to clean off grease, but it really does work a treat. Try it out on something like an oily table top or something else that's really greasy, you'll be amazed. :) As for the plunger, just file the broken one flat, and cut the top of one of those c64 plungers, and epoxy the 2 together. It'll be stronger than new. You've probably already fixed it, but just a tip for another time. :) Again, great job, i really love your videos, specially these restoration ones, as i mentioned before. Cheers!
*Christian* I'm half-terrified, half-amused by the idea that something people put inside themselves can be used to remove grease and oil. Then again, what things have people been able to do with Coca-Cola?
The monster energy thing is false please don’t do it. You’re better off trying dish soap, goo gone, or lava soap. The reason the oil is stubborn to remove it’s because it’s been dehydrated over the years.
Christian I couldn't agree more. Have you seen this Extreme C64 restoration? th-cam.com/video/nN6f0y8UalU/w-d-xo.html I can't take the credit I'm afraid, Pete did this.
Instead of jumping straight to organic solvents, try using dish soap. I've tried all kinds of solvents for cleaning all kinds of things because I have a degree in chemistry and a big ego, but it seems like concentrated dish soap is better than anything I can make. It's cheap too. When soap fails, then it's time to use rubbing alcohol (won't destroy plastic), WD40 (might destroy plastic), and acetone (will definitely damage the plastic). Apparently "brake cleaner" is about half acetone. That would explain why it dissolves/discolors the plastic.
3:28 "honestly, I don't want this thing touching any of my towels.." I'm pretty sure that is EXACTLY what my wife thinks about me using her seasonal decorative towels.
If this wasn't already suggested, Simple Green is a fantastic degreaser that would work wonders on any of your restorations. It also wouldn't harm any of the plastics. I highly recommend it!
For the plastic case instead of using peroxide and water use peroxide hair developer. Its peroxide mixed with cream so it doesn't dry out. Just wrap it in gladwrap or a plastic bag. It works on all yellowed plastics
@@danpowers3022He actually used to use that method and stopped because some of the pieces would come out uneven. The cream does actually dry out according to him and at least in Texas he'd have to reapply and massage the cream several times. The bath method achieves a more evenly distributed result more often.
I’ve just found your channel and I absolutely love it. I don’t know what it is, but these videos are so filled with facts and information, and they’re calming and bring me so much joy. Thank you.
Yeah, that won't work. The chips will likely have bits and pieces missing, the soldering might be scratched off, and mud. On another note, I once found an old computer chip next to my driveway.
Try Dawn dish detergent next time you end up with Jed Clampett's computer. It breaks up grease/ oil/ etc. Hot water, Dawn, and a good stiff scrub brush should clean up the case so it can be retrobrite'd. Hopefully, less work, too.
Agreed. Dish detergent should have worked. I had a kitchen stove-top hood with caked on grease from years of oil/frying exposure. I used Dawn dish detergent, and it effortlessly removed the built up grease.
That thing actually kinda looks like art, like a post-apocalyptic relic. I almost feel like it should just get put in a glass box and thrown on display, lol.
@Chris Puhara there is a playstation released around every 5 years, to reach the number you listed there would have to be multiple PlayStation consoles per year
Soaked overnight in a bath of Jizer (just the one Z, add another and this is completely a different natural product!) and then thrown in the dishwasher if I was doing this clean up.
The 8-Bit Guy: If you are curious about this Vic-20's history, the oil/grease contamination probably came from the computer being used in an automotive garage. Years ago, mechanics used a driveshaft re-balancing program on Commodores.
Actually she gets to say her dad develops video games, restores retro technology, is building a hobby computer product, built his own electric car, and makes a living documenting things like that on his extremely educational TH-cam channel.
At least it wasn't covered in raw sewage. ReviewtechUSA restored a top loader NES that was encrusted inside and out with what looked like dirt but later came to the realization that it was most likely raw sewage.
Wow good find, I would have done the same. With the proper PPE! I still need to clean out a 30+ year old NCR bank mainframe and tape drive that's infected with racoon poop. It actually gave the previous owner pink eye! Yuck. With that I must say ware gloves, wash your hands, wear goggles and for the love of god DONT TUCH YOUR EYES OR MOUTH!
@Pentti Kantanen Well, most of those chems were relatively mild. *Glass cleaner:* depends on the brand but it's usually a very mild solvent. *Alcohol:* pH neutral, like water. It can dry out the skin, but no worse than what a small dab of lotion can reverse. *WD-40:* my main concern would not be with his skin but with his breathing, since this is an aerosol. It's a petroleum product which means it's pretty toxic, but assuming he washed his hands afterwards, it shouldn't be any harm done. *Baking soda:* A mildly alkaline product, safe for both cooking and cleaning. *vinegar:* The mildly acidic counterpart to Baking soda, safe for both cooking and cleaning. *Deoxit:* This is unfamiliar chem for me, but after googling, it seems it will irritate the skin "after repeated or prolonged contact". Though at least he didn't slap his hand all over this one. *sos pad:* Seems to be some kind of American counterpart to Svinto. I can say from experience that foregoing gloves on this one is no big deal. *hydrogen peroxide:* Not safe, but there seem to be very limited skin contact. *bräkleen:* Is a strong degreaser, but assuming he didn't touch it while applying and hosed it off afterwards it should be fine. *electronics cleaning stuff:* No idea what this actually was, but he applied it outdoors and hosed it off so little to n skin contact regardless. As someone who deals with strong chems in my daily work, I do applaud any and all use of gloves since even water will break down your skin with prolonged use. However, I'll admit that I've been careless myself quite a number of times, and it's usually fine as long as you wash the chem off thoroughly afterwards and soothe the skin with a good hand cream at the end of the work.
Vic-20 was my first computer I got in 5th December 1981 and I still love the machine today and watching you lovingly bring one back to life is so heart warming :)
I gave David your tooth brush to clean that vic 20 after he was done he gave it back so here you go you can still use it to brush your teeth with it just ignore the dirt in the bristles
I work as an electric engineer and I can relate going into the shop and seeing nasty machines. A lot were recently replaced but an IBM GL remains and boy has it been better days. The whole system is smothered with grease and dark oil mixed with heavy dusting and grime. It's kind of like a horror scene but I plan on giving it some love when they retire it
I know this is unrelated, but I didn't know that system existed, and now I want to use the horizontal form factor case for whenever I decide to build my next computer. So thank you for introducing me to that beauty! (Yes I know it would be tricky and require mods.)
I have a Idea for your key problem. Use a piece from Lego technic Lego Partnumber 32062. then drill a hole in your broken pice and glue it or plastic solder it.
I used to watch you literally everyday.. eventually i got out of my old electronics phase and slowly drifted away from your channel. this is the first video ive seen of yours in a year or so. thank you for being the youtuber that helped me through my obsesstions.
OMG that's how my son started. It was the Vic 20 then the 64, then the big jump to the 128. I later bought a IBM PC jr, then IBM something I forget. My son is now 44 and is the tech guy for the City, PD, fire dept and whatever makes the city run. I remember sitting up in bed while he typed code into the computer, then we would run to the computer and plug in the disk and the program would run until it hit a glitch. We were copying the program out of a PC magazine. I would read the code from the magazine then he would say stop, that's the glitch, and back to the computer. I think my son was ten at the time. We formed a great son father relationship we enjoy today. I am now 80 years old and he is my go to guy when I have a computer program. His first question is usually "Dad, did you re-boot" ? oops and sure enough, if not, he logs onto my computer and types, Dad step away from the keyboard. Love those old Commadore Computers. My wristwatch does more than those old computers :-) .
oh how I remember copying all those DATA 54323, 957432, 123512,. 532880. 8589320 so on and so on from the computer magazine. Page after page, after page... Then going back thru and double checking all the entries. and then .... the moment of truth.. I nervously type RUN. (it works!!!) my 2 days of data entry works!!! My dad is 76 now (I'm 45), he got me my 1st computer a Texas Instruments TI-994a in 1982, I had the speech synthesizer for it also. Hunt the Wumpus! next was the Christmas to trump all Christmases for a 14 year old boy - December 25, 1986/ The gift wrap half off torn off.... .. is it? .... is it really???? a COMMODORE 64 !!!!! HOLY COW...... THUD (passed out in excitement). Come back to consciousness. kinda blurry ...and a MODEM!! a 300 baud modem??? THUD. BEST CHRISTMAS EVER! That computer was a big part of my early teens.... and my introduction to computers. unreal everything that little 64K machine could do. The SID chip was amazing (the audio chip). Get SID PLAYER for Android in Google Play. They have the ENTIRE audio offerings that were ever made for the C64 and a SID Chip emulator program. Your phone becomes a little C64 music player. There are also a couple of C64 emulator programs available on Google Play too. They will run C64 programs just like the computer did. Blue screen and blinking cursor and all. Thanks for the stroll down memory lane! PS. I still have my C64... and it still works like a charm. Some of my floppy disks have stopped working though (not my drive, the actual disk... probably oxidation of the magnetic media. But most of them work still. including my disks of the programs I wrote in Basic copied out of the magazines just like you and your son used to do.
Dude, my Commodore 64 and 1541 drive looked exactly the same way when I pulled them from a friend's shed after they were sitting outside a box for 20+ years. (There just wasn't any oil and the connectors were ok.) After heavy cosmetic cleaning mostly on the exterior, it fired right up and is still working fine now.
@@Emily-kd2zv You can submerge motherboards in water as long as you let it dry for a couple of days after. It should be fine. Did the same with my PC motherboard as a test 2 years ago and its still going
You clearly don't know how oxidation works. To damage the board with water you need to let it wet for days, or turn it on while wet or submerged. Actually, we clean almost every super dirty/dusty PCB with water at repair shops, it just need to be dried out.
The two nastiest computers I've ever worked on: 1. A college student's laptop that had been "water damaged." Only after I got it apart, did I find it had been urinated in. 2. A PC that was in the DJ booth of a strip club. In addition to smoking, they burned incense right next to this PC for years. The inside was coated in a thick, black reeky soot, that somehow managed to also be greasy. I still can't say which was worse, but the memories of these machines haunt me to this day.
I would have used some dawn dish soap diluted in water and a soft scrub brush as my first attempt (staying clear of any labels) and just using diluted dawn and a finger on the decals. Dawn would have cleaned that oil right off.
Seeing your interesting video i remembered when i came to usa for my studies. I bought a vic-20 and when i finished my studies i brought it back home to cyprus.Last time i saw it was about 20 years ago with the manual and schematic diagram along with some cassetes in almost mind condition.I searched the house for a while but i did not locate it. I hope i will find it soon.
christakis kalisperides απάντηση απο Ελλάδα, καλα ρε φιλε, τι κάνει αυτός ο David, το κάθε ξεχωριστό και μοναδικό θα το βρεις μόνο εδω, εχε χάρη που εχουμε αυτόν για κομπιουτερ 1980-1989 και τον Clint που ειναι το καναλι LGR ( Lazy Game Reviews ) που πρεπει να κάνεις subscribe, εκείνος κάνει review απο υπολογιστές 1990- αρχές 2000, ειναι καλός και αυτός , τέλος παντων, χάρηκα που ειδα έναν έλληνα τουλάχιστον εδω μεσα, νόμιζα πως ήμουν ο μόνος, αλλα τελικά φαίνεται πως παρακολουθούν και αλλοι, και θα ήθελα να σου πω συγχαριτηρια γι αυτο
This brings back memories. I maintained computers for a factory. They were using 80s era DOS PCs, connected to tape readers from the 70s. Much of it was proprietary hardware, no longer made. So whenever one failed, I'd have to take apart the filthy, nasty machine.
In cases of "critical gunk" like this, I use a 3M citrus based cleaner. Is basically lemon oil. And the best of all: Is water soluble. Is a little expensive but really worth the money.
Looks exactly like the computers in the machine shop where I used to work. The cutting/cooling fluid would vaporize into the air and PCs would fill up with with the oily sludge. Once, I put a PC on its side and over the weekend the fluid oozed down into the corners of the case.
I've recently restored two C64's in almost identical condition, but with hardened cement between the keys. It was pretty challenging and now they both work fine ^^
i agree.. if you want to restore 50 C64's, you definitely should do it! It's a labor of love! Just.... i disagree with the last sentiment. Don't hoard them! They're not only collectible, they're things people love and which can spark their dreams! If you have this many stashed away, and no one's buying them - consider giving them away to fellow enthusiasts - people who would appreciate the value!
@Cris Angelo D.C Nope. No one has any idea what you are talking about. Please tell us more. Does this magic you speak of reverse time to prevent toxic chemicals from affecting your hands the way gloves prevent toxic chemicals from touching your hands do?
I used to work at a factory with molding machines, four of the machines had Commodore PCs in them (though I'm not sure what kind, most likely the Vic 20 since the machines were built in 1985). The other machines has Microsoft PCs in them, some with Windows 3.1 and the newest ones with Windows XP. It was...yeah, it was messy. Haha.
Restoration? Commodore computer? Worst condition ever? You've got my attention. Instant click. :) I just love seeing other people restoring oldschool stuff against all odds. Why? Because I've done it sometimes and It's just pleasantly relaxing to see someone else do it now. :D
CJWarlock I've been restoring a PS3 that was about 90% dust. It also has a ton of corrosion on the metal over the blu-ray drive and some of the shielding. Unbelievably, it was fully operational before I took it apart. The sole issue was that it would sound like a jet taking off after about 5 minutes of gameplay. Luckily I did buy it as faulty as the hard drive needed reformatting.
I love the shirt! My fiancee and I are currently watching Rick & Morty while we wait for Ghost of Tsushima to update on our PSPRO's. Man, watching your show is such a blast. It's like viewing the past through a tiny window (smartphone) and seeing how far we've come. Can you imagine going back in time when this microcomputer was brand new and slapping a gaming PC in Bill Gates lap?! Something in the I7 or I9 Extreme line. I think his head would quite literally explode. Multi cored processor's, at least 16 gb of matching DDR4 RAM registered and buffered, GDDR5 GPU, water cooled or refrigerated, Blue Tooth laser mouse, and a standard Xbox One controller. This is what you helped to create Bill. We could also pre-smack him in the head for Windows Millennium....BAD BILL, BAD! I'm not a Mac fan....but that almost drove me to one. Addendum- The Vic 20 predates me by quite a bit. That poor micro looks like it had a very hard life. I have never seen one in person before. My only experience with the micro's is a Commodore 128 and an old Colecovision turned into a full blown ADAM computer. I didn't really start messing with computers until late 1994 with the 486DX2.
True, but I think the reason he used a slot screwdriver is because the edge is not as sharp. That way he could scrape off the gunk (whatever it was) on the outside of the case with less chance of damaging the plastic.
We had a Vic-20 as one of our first gaming computers. We had a full kit for it with the tape deck, several game cartridges, and a dot matrix printer with word processor software.
Reminds me of when I was doing some cleanup work after Hurricane Katrina. The floods washed out a local oil refinery, causing the oil to mix with the floodwaters. It had soaked into the carpets of the house we worked on. I guess it wouldn't surprise me too much if someone had tried to salvage this from a Katrina house, although it's less likely that they would have let it sit around for a whole decade after that.
Don't ever use mag wheel cleaner as it contains caustic soda which eats the metals of the motherboard. Not good for electronics. And never use water for the same reason. My advice would be to soak the entire motherboard in benzine as it's totally inert. It dries very fast and won't damage the electronics. If that doesn't do the trick use automotive spray carb cleaner as the oil and dirt will just spray off instantly, without any rubbing. Then rinse the residue off with benzine. By the way, if you ever drop your cellphone in water, put your entire phone into a jar/flask of benzine, shake it around and take it out to dry which only takes a few minutes. I've never lost a cellphone that way, but using water or caustic soda on any electronic circuit is asking for trouble. I hope you found this useful.
@@evilkillerwhale7078 It depends on the components. Most can handle a water wash and many can't. It's safest to use be benzine as it's inert. Most cellphones won't work if they're dropped in water.
Most TH-camrs think they can be just like real tv. They try, but fail epically. The only way to reach TH-cam success is to be yourself in the fullest of that definition. No script, no jump cuts, and treat your audience with senior top commander war veteran levels of respect.
This is my favorite type of video on your channel. I believe the "vibe" I like in something like this is due to the fact that it wasn't really "planned in advance" as you said in the beginning and possibly because it was such a complete mess that getting it to work would be an AMAZING accomplishment. I love the "get your hands REALLY dirty" and the experimental "follow along as I succeed by failing" aspect. I do find it HYSTERICALLY FUNNY how averse you are to getting your hands dirty touching that "mystery oil". :) It would be interesting to figure out what causes the discoloration of plastic with the break cleaner. Is it a "permenant" discoloration? Does it seep into the plastic? Or is it something that could be "fixed" after with the retro-brite technique? I have some old yellow-y computer crap in a storage unit I might test it out just for my own curiosity. One thing that has happened to modern computing is the complete inability to "fix" our computerized devices. Everything is glued together. Even Apple won't fix a lot of their devices as it's cheaper and easier to simply replace the entire thing. I really really miss the old days when I could disassemble a bunch of macs where I worked in a graphic design studio. Swapping out video cards or ram (Sorry Steve, but Joe really needs that video card and ram more than you because he's doing 3D. You will get the next upgrade promise). I remember those horrible analog mice with hard rubber balls and rollers that had to be cleaned regularly. Now, forget about it. If I COULD pry apart my macbook pro without destroying it, there really isn't much I can do with it anyway.
Next time, try Dawn dishwashing detergent. Another option is either Simple Green or Mean Green degreasers. All of these should work well for this type of cleaning.
Was going to say the same thing. I wonder what Dave has against using dish detergents. Just leave to soak in a plastic tub. I use that to clean all my thrift/ebay stuff and it works well. The damage to the plastic caused by the brake cleaner made me cringe.
I can second using Simple Green. I used to use Simple Green when working at a local manufacturer. I ran a CNC there, and they would get covered in a sludge made of fiberglass dust, coolant from the machines, grease, and dirt blown in from outside. The CNCs would be black with grime at the end of each day. We used Simple Green to clean everything, and at the end of each day, I'd spend a good chunk of time just cleaning the machine I was running that day. It worked very well, made those CNCs look like new.
Definitivamente este hombre es el santo patrón de las computadoras antiguas, su canal es genial!!, siempre lo veo, un abrazo fuerte desde Bolivia mi hermano.
i agree.. if you want to restore 50 C64's, you definitely should do it! It's a labor of love! Just.... i disagree with the last sentiment. Don't hoard them! They're not only collectible, they're things people love and which can spark their dreams! If you have this many stashed away, and no one's buying them - consider giving them away to fellow enthusiasts - people who would appreciate the value!
The C64 still stands as the best-selling home computer of all time and is in use even today for a variety of things by it's enthusiasts. It's truly timeless. :)
I said this years ago, but I cant find it now - theres foam spray for car uphostery - car stain remover foam, its got a tiny bit of ammonia in it, it's as good as benzene for cleaning stuff but about as toxic as washing machine powder.
I come back and watch this video occasionally because I find it just so indescribably satisfying.
same
Same
Mmhmm
Yep
Yup.
That cardboard just saved you from having a mess of corrosion on the back of that logic board.
Sadly it perished in the fight to save the board.
R.I.P cardboard put there to prevent shorts.
The cardboard had one job, and it did it pretty damn well
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@@JetFalcon710 it actually did more than just its job. Wasn't really designed to keep the board protected from corrosion, but it did that job in addition to protecting from dead shorting the board.
Three years ago now, a plucky piece of cardboard gave its all in the fight against logic board corrosion.
Sadly, it lost that fight but saved the board.
We shall remember it and its brave deeds.
R.I.P Brave cardboard,
we salute you
f in the chat lol
Hey honey, our neighbour is bathing computer cases in water again.
naptha or lighter fluid will clean that shit up
:D
That must look weird to his neighbors
Jackson Mandle lol
Jackson Mandle they’re probably used to it at this point tbh
I too worked in IT in an industrial environment . The oil you are seeing there is mostly likely from a shop floor computer working with large CNC equipment cutting metal. It was all over my computers as well but not as bad. That VIC-20 was most likely used to write programming for those machines since they are only a few lines of code and basic text.
I'm not at all interested in electronics or vintage computers.
*But* I find these restoration videos so soothing. They're wonderfully edited and I love that you include subtitles.
*10/10*
Same but I’m interested in old Macs though
Even better if you like them.
If 11/10 was a thing, I’d rate it that.
The subtitles are actually generated by TH-cam's Speech To Text. That's why they are sometimes really weirdly spelled.
Once in a while, when I'm bored, I'll go through and edit some.
im a mechanic and barely use a computer, other than my phone, but i do agree. I love watching these videos once in a while
He says that this is the worst VIC-20 he had ever seen but to be honest this is the only VIC-20 i have ever seen
Dio Kakouris lol
You can spend days cleaning that VIC-20, but it will take months to fix his hairline
Dio Kakouris what is a VIC-20?
Tsholofelo Monamodi who knows, not me :D
Tsholofelo Monamodi The computer
this keyboard looks like what Gordon Ramsay would find under a stove in kitchen nightmares
It's... Not a keyboard. It's a computer.
Lol🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂
Nick Noti yes so true
IT’S FUCKIN RAW!!!!!
He would be like
“WHY THE FUCK IS THERE A POOR VIC 20 IN THERE?”
Hey I restore cars for a living. There are some cleaners like Spray nine and citrus based cleaners that will take oil off without damaging plastic
lmao I read that as
I restore cats for a living
"Spray Nine"... Reminded me of the song "Nine While Nine" by The Sisters of Mercy :D
Tóth Vince pffft
@@MonoChorMe ikr it's a good song
hoarders special
If one day AI rises against humans and kills us all, you may be spared for the care you showed to one of their great-great-grandfathers. Kudos to you for the effort
They'll hire him as a Doctor.
Gum Skyloard or have him run a robo-salon or something. Or both.
Gum Skyloard yeah ai should probably keep some people around so they can repair them if the ai cant
Who says kudos anymore?
@@moadot720 me
WD-40 Fixes everything. If it doesn't. You're not using enough.
Can it fix a broken marriage?
The same with duct tape
But It's not a good lube
Have you tried?
"man, i sure am thirsty"
“I don’t want this touching any of my towels”
But you DO want it to touch your hands?
Jakepops
It’s easier to clean your hands than to clean towels.
@@PhantomHavok Gloves, man, gloves.
XD
@@Lumaah same problem
@Farhan Tbs disposable gloves?
"I consider it in the middle of nowhere"
*shows a flea market that takes up more land area than the town I live in*
TEXAS!
💀💀 same
True lmao. I also chuckled at his remark at Canton, Texas being in the middle of nowhere -- my state has a number of larger cities that are even more lonely than Canton
That computer has so much oil in it the US is trying to invade it.
Oooooooof
someone already made that joke. Nice try tho.,
your mom is a joke already made!
@@Mutiny960
You did his mom?
I thought you had standards dude.
Nope, sure don't. My dick don't have eyes, and don't have regrets either lol.
As a woman watching these videos, may I recommend Dawn dishwashing detergent as a degreaser? It's super effective but also super gentle. It's also more gentle on the outside when you have to rinse things. I've used it on everything from greasy dishes to power tool parts.
Don't underestimate a crafty lady. ;)
I second Raging Shargon's comment... I remember seeing a 'life hack' about washing your hair with Dawn to strip all the oil and product buildup out. Works MIRACLES on greasy hair.
Also Jamberry recommends washing your hands with Dawn before an application to strip the oil from the nail beds.
I personally use break cleaner to wash my hair.
I was gonna comment the same!
Its a trap!
nobody cares or needed to know your a woman.
It looks like it survived fallout
"survived"
Good Joke, when I saw this keyboard it reminded me from Fallout xD
Oh shit it does
HIGHWATER TROUSERS
Looks like it's the first computer from the first Vault.
This remains my favorite 8-Bit Guy episode. It's the one that got me hooked on your restoration series.
My friend, you're not thinking like a BUSINESSMAN, you should have taken that VIC-20, glued a radioactive logo on it and sold as a Fallout 4 Vic-20 ultra rare edition.
EASY MONEY
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I'll be not surprised if this one was already used in a post apocaliptic movie.
Roberto Ventilii , more like used in a post apocalyptic war
hugs . That's kind of what I was thinking it looks like a prop from a postapocalypse 1980s movie called crash and burn.
He is like the brother hood of steel trying to preserve old technology
Huzzah! A man of quality!
"We don't let outsiders talk about the brother hood of steel in public"
**Shoots fat man**
So thats how they save old tech.... Watching this guy.
Ad Victoriam!
BoS bad faction
It's like those dawn commercials where they clean a duck covered in oil.
Honestly I would have tried Dawn first.
@@coffee115 thats what i do before trying any other product when im cleaning something like this
I bet dawn would've taken it right out
The Vic-20 when it’s found by Rob:
“Father? Is that you?? (horrific coughing noises) take me away from these awful people!”
Keep in mind he has a daughter. “My daddy is a fireman” “My daddy tests products” “My daddy records himself fixing old computers”
TAWOG Rob?
@Sixto ReWired Ah.
I love these restoration videos. It's so satisfying seeing something that most people would consider to be garbage, be given a new lease on life. Also, they won't be making any more of these old machines, so i think it's very important to make an effort to keep them around.
Great job. :) I also have a little tip. If you ever run into another machine covered in oil, you can use monster energy drink to remove it. It removes the greasy stuff even faster than brake cleaner, and it shouldn't affect the plastics or components in any negative way, though it should definitely be rinsed of after cleaning. I know it sounds insane using monster energy drink to clean off grease, but it really does work a treat. Try it out on something like an oily table top or something else that's really greasy, you'll be amazed. :)
As for the plunger, just file the broken one flat, and cut the top of one of those c64 plungers, and epoxy the 2 together. It'll be stronger than new. You've probably already fixed it, but just a tip for another time. :)
Again, great job, i really love your videos, specially these restoration ones, as i mentioned before.
Cheers!
I wonder if it works with the halal-iefed version I can get here too....
People actually are making reproduction Commodore 64s, at least. Hopefully somebody starts doing the same for the VIC 20.
*Christian*
I'm half-terrified, half-amused by the idea that something people put inside themselves can be used to remove grease and oil.
Then again, what things have people been able to do with Coca-Cola?
The monster energy thing is false please don’t do it. You’re better off trying dish soap, goo gone, or lava soap. The reason the oil is stubborn to remove it’s because it’s been dehydrated over the years.
Christian I couldn't agree more. Have you seen this Extreme C64 restoration? th-cam.com/video/nN6f0y8UalU/w-d-xo.html I can't take the credit I'm afraid, Pete did this.
"Well, after an alcohol it look pretty good now". One universal wisdom :)
I've known a few women who that relates to.
Hellwyck true story bro :)
Мандибрики і Цирупопики im smashed right now and one honest drunk typing on a filthy keyboards opinion... it looks fine!
What the problem is?
Ham Sandwich ever been told you're lacking_sense_of_humor_dude?
What do you expect, its a ham sandwich! lol
Instead of jumping straight to organic solvents, try using dish soap. I've tried all kinds of solvents for cleaning all kinds of things because I have a degree in chemistry and a big ego, but it seems like concentrated dish soap is better than anything I can make. It's cheap too. When soap fails, then it's time to use rubbing alcohol (won't destroy plastic), WD40 (might destroy plastic), and acetone (will definitely damage the plastic).
Apparently "brake cleaner" is about half acetone. That would explain why it dissolves/discolors the plastic.
Keyword: Big ego.
Yeah, that really sells the facts..
I was about to comment that (the soap part).
In my experience brake cleaner is often ether and toluene or xylene, rarely acetone.
Yeah I was gonna suggest just straight up Dawn. If it’s gentle enough for sea birds I imagine it’s fine on plastics
This video even 3 years later is still one of my top favorite videos of yours. Anyone else agree?
3:28 "honestly, I don't want this thing touching any of my towels.."
I'm pretty sure that is EXACTLY what my wife thinks about me using her seasonal decorative towels.
Women and their decoration, you can't do anything in the house out of fear disturbing the decorations (and their shouting afterwards).
As a girl myself, that isn't true. Everybody's different.
@@bassboostedmoonchao Very true! Well said.
My nan is like that. If it's on a towel rack, I will use it.
@@Dumb_Killjoy 😆 I hear you 👍🏻
When you dump a gallon of oil on a Vic 20 and let it sit for 20 years
If this wasn't already suggested, Simple Green is a fantastic degreaser that would work wonders on any of your restorations. It also wouldn't harm any of the plastics. I highly recommend it!
For the plastic case instead of using peroxide and water use peroxide hair developer. Its peroxide mixed with cream so it doesn't dry out. Just wrap it in gladwrap or a plastic bag. It works on all yellowed plastics
Stop watching TH-cam and finish the fiero lol, keep up the good work
@@danpowers3022He actually used to use that method and stopped because some of the pieces would come out uneven. The cream does actually dry out according to him and at least in Texas he'd have to reapply and massage the cream several times. The bath method achieves a more evenly distributed result more often.
I’ve just found your channel and I absolutely love it. I don’t know what it is, but these videos are so filled with facts and information, and they’re calming and bring me so much joy. Thank you.
tada oil to the rescue it saved the computer from corrosion and scared cleaners away because it was that nasty
Fallout 4 condition vic-20
damit i was just goin to say that
fallout 1 pls
let's just agree on fallout in general
War, war never changes...
Xidexs True
"So I just covered the entire computer in WD-40" -8-Bit Guy
Bet you never thought you'd say that XD
Why?
If you don't want it to move, duct tape.
If you do want it to move, WD-40
@@cherrypepsi2815 Gorilla glue works good too (if you don't want it to move)
@@lordevyl8317 gorilla glue is dogshit. It puffs up so much.
@@cherrypepsi2815 Krazy Glue is so much better, and it's also much cheaper than overrated Gorilla Glue
I found one of these computers in my backyard, and it contained a centipede, a colony of ants, and a salamander
@@ladybug-w7l No, I'm pretty new to electronics, so I decided the best course of action was to salvage some of the parts.
Yeah, that won't work. The chips will likely have bits and pieces missing, the soldering might be scratched off, and mud. On another note, I once found an old computer chip next to my driveway.
That is 😢 restore it to new condition
Wee🐸🐜🐛
@@chrisbrasher6177 🦅 mmm a snack
I like how often you say "on the bright side". Don't stop doing that, it makes the video feel really optimistic. Thanks for saving this old Commodore!
Pro tip: Don't store your computers in vats of chocolate and melted bubble gum.
Smaakjeks K
why is there hair in your vats of chocolate and gum
+Necluda
FDA regulations allow for 3 or fewer rat-sized clumps of hair per vat.
Smaakjeks K yes
Computer came from the Wonka Chocolate Factory, and there was an “incident” with some visitors a while back.
fun fact, gum was a kind of tree sap, and some gum brands such as Glee Gum, still use the same tree sap! 🤓
Try Dawn dish detergent next time you end up with Jed Clampett's computer. It breaks up grease/ oil/ etc. Hot water, Dawn, and a good stiff scrub brush should clean up the case so it can be retrobrite'd. Hopefully, less work, too.
Brian M: Dawn dish detergent is my preferred de-greaser/de-oiler as well. And it is safe for plastics.
For something this tough just let it sit submerged in a bucket of dawn and water for a few hours and it should come right off.
I was thinking the same thing. Dawn works on everything, ducks, penguins, dishes, computers, whatever you got.
Agreed. Dish detergent should have worked. I had a kitchen stove-top hood with caked on grease from years of oil/frying exposure. I used Dawn dish detergent, and it effortlessly removed the built up grease.
You beat me to it... The whole video I was like 'just use Dawn'.
That thing actually kinda looks like art, like a post-apocalyptic relic. I almost feel like it should just get put in a glass box and thrown on display, lol.
The moment I saw this thing, it reminds me of Fallout.
Philip Kwok same
@@spika5872 same
that style of 80-90s techno rubik's cube-esque stuff should be its own style
20 years later: Restoration - The Worst Nintendo Switch I've ever seen
@Chris Puhara there is a playstation released around every 5 years, to reach the number you listed there would have to be multiple PlayStation consoles per year
@Chris Puhara woah woah calm down, I don't think I am the one with no life here buddy
Guy that doesn't get the joke: Has a serious explanation
The guy that made the joke: *REEEEEEEEEEE*
Seriously, godspeed you two.
@@marblebongos2794. I got the joke the whole time, just made a simple observation and this guy went apeshit
@Chris Puhara Man why saying fuck you to the dude? it was just a joke calm down
Your neighbors are soooo wondering what you are cooking in your garage.
Martin Kronström I also know that he has a family. I wonder if his wife and daughter have become nerdy ever since he started his channel.
elma rcianito He is the one who POKEs.
i also wonders what his neighbors think when hi set black plastic box on sunny day in front of his garage
meth
We need to get you a huge ultrasonic cleaner.
Snazzy Labs!
Or a Dremel.
Other rotary tools are available.
Soaked overnight in a bath of Jizer (just the one Z, add another and this is completely a different natural product!) and then thrown in the dishwasher if I was doing this clean up.
Chevron with Tecron gasoline, or plain Dawn dish washing soap is a great degreaser
Hi Snazzy Labs, I didn't know you were interested in retro stuff...
The 8-Bit Guy: If you are curious about this Vic-20's history, the oil/grease contamination probably came from the computer being used in an automotive garage. Years ago, mechanics used a driveshaft re-balancing program on Commodores.
999thenewman don't forget wheel alignment programs and dynamometers
i would NEVER have guessed they were used in automotive garages. that's pretty cool!
what about a oil rig - Texas, early 80s?
I was curious about that. It makes much sense.
Can he go fix my zippy keyborad
Keep in mind he has a daughter. “My daddy is a fireman” “My daddy tests products” “My daddy records himself fixing old computers”
Dušan Xmetov Yeah
I'd be proud as fuck if my father had the knowledge and such to fix computers AND has his own TH-cam 🤷🏻♀️
My daughter: my daddy watches other daddies fixing old computers
Gg
Actually she gets to say her dad develops video games, restores retro technology, is building a hobby computer product, built his own electric car, and makes a living documenting things like that on his extremely educational TH-cam channel.
At least it wasn't covered in raw sewage. ReviewtechUSA restored a top loader NES that was encrusted inside and out with what looked like dirt but later came to the realization that it was most likely raw sewage.
Damn lol
Must be avgn's nes
You mean GameTechUSA . I don't think ReviewtechUSA does any kind of restoration work.
eww, gross, disgusting :S
Wow good find, I would have done the same. With the proper PPE!
I still need to clean out a 30+ year old NCR bank mainframe and tape drive that's infected with racoon poop. It actually gave the previous owner pink eye! Yuck. With that I must say ware gloves, wash your hands, wear goggles and for the love of god DONT TUCH YOUR EYES OR MOUTH!
The dirt was so bad, I have to shower myself...
GLOVES MAN!! GLOVES!!!
Forreal... Pretty sure that was dip spit out that was the gunk
If he does not mind the dirt. Just let him be.
If it is for safety im sure he would take nessecary precautions.
@@davenn7597 You see him douse his skin in every chemical found from his house and then say that?
@Pentti Kantanen
Well, most of those chems were relatively mild.
*Glass cleaner:* depends on the brand but it's usually a very mild solvent.
*Alcohol:* pH neutral, like water. It can dry out the skin, but no worse than what a small dab of lotion can reverse.
*WD-40:* my main concern would not be with his skin but with his breathing, since this is an aerosol. It's a petroleum product which means it's pretty toxic, but assuming he washed his hands afterwards, it shouldn't be any harm done.
*Baking soda:* A mildly alkaline product, safe for both cooking and cleaning.
*vinegar:* The mildly acidic counterpart to Baking soda, safe for both cooking and cleaning.
*Deoxit:* This is unfamiliar chem for me, but after googling, it seems it will irritate the skin "after repeated or prolonged contact". Though at least he didn't slap his hand all over this one.
*sos pad:* Seems to be some kind of American counterpart to Svinto. I can say from experience that foregoing gloves on this one is no big deal.
*hydrogen peroxide:* Not safe, but there seem to be very limited skin contact.
*bräkleen:* Is a strong degreaser, but assuming he didn't touch it while applying and hosed it off afterwards it should be fine.
*electronics cleaning stuff:* No idea what this actually was, but he applied it outdoors and hosed it off so little to n skin contact regardless.
As someone who deals with strong chems in my daily work, I do applaud any and all use of gloves since even water will break down your skin with prolonged use. However, I'll admit that I've been careless myself quite a number of times, and it's usually fine as long as you wash the chem off thoroughly afterwards and soothe the skin with a good hand cream at the end of the work.
Wearing plastic gloves is toxic to your hands
Vic-20 was my first computer I got in 5th December 1981 and I still love the machine today and watching you lovingly bring one back to life is so heart warming :)
You found SCP-106's VIC-20
RetroGamer7200 lol
Larry climbs up floor
Larry:I want my computer please or face my dimension
Kevin Xie ok
RetroGamer7200 also thats 079 but the ai has been terminated
I gave David your tooth brush to clean that vic 20 after he was done he gave it back so here you go you can still use it to brush your teeth with it just ignore the dirt in the bristles
Sounds like you need a decent degreaser in your arsenal.
You need something in your arse
+Handsome_Hero That's quite the proposition.
He has brake cleaner, which is a mixture of solvents, so should act as a reasonable degreaser in most circumstances.
Grease me up woman!
Yeah, auto degreaser is much milder than carb cleaner and works the same without the risk of solvents on delicate parts.
I'm impressed that the seller had the balls to ask $5 for that.
If anything it's still got some salvageable parts. You can't just browse ebay and buy a vic20 set of keys for $5.
I wouldn't have paid more than $2 for it
14:07 "The return key still looks pretty dirty, so I'll follow it up with some alcohol. [...] OK, so after the alcohol it looks pretty good now."
If you listen to that without context it's a chuckler.
That VIC-20 looks like it was recovered and owned by MAD MAX.
ÆMEROX Humongous and Wez played Tetris on it together...picture that.
I work as an electric engineer and I can relate going into the shop and seeing nasty machines. A lot were recently replaced but an IBM GL remains and boy has it been better days. The whole system is smothered with grease and dark oil mixed with heavy dusting and grime. It's kind of like a horror scene but I plan on giving it some love when they retire it
I know this is unrelated, but I didn't know that system existed, and now I want to use the horizontal form factor case for whenever I decide to build my next computer. So thank you for introducing me to that beauty!
(Yes I know it would be tricky and require mods.)
Cubester64 cool stuff!
I loved how your framed your shot at 11:29!
Timothé Dorez me too
Great Facebook cover photo material!
lmao perfect!
This is my favorite of your videos. I come to back to watch it every now and then.
Same here
I have a Idea for your key problem. Use a piece from Lego technic Lego Partnumber 32062. then drill a hole in your broken pice and glue it or plastic solder it.
there are stores like bricklings, so there you can browse
32062 is a Technick Axle in size 2 with two notches
MentalmenteFDD
There are tons of reference sites for that like Bricklink or Rebrickable as well as Bricklings.
Funny coincidence;
The LEGO axle shims fit on the C64 plunger. So It's probably a fit on the VIC-20.
Let me guess, Retro Recipies?
None of the ports seem to have been occupied when it got coated in oil so I don’t think that happened while it was in use.
Emmett Turner
Looks like it's had oil spilt on it, perhaps in a garage or shed.
Leakage over-time might be it...or being stored in a generally greasy atmosphere
Retro-Forensics ;D
(Good job)
Thanks Sherlock lol
I used to watch you literally everyday.. eventually i got out of my old electronics phase and slowly drifted away from your channel. this is the first video ive seen of yours in a year or so. thank you for being the youtuber that helped me through my obsesstions.
Dawn.
Dawn.
DAWN.
Use DAWN. The whole point of the stuff is to break down oil for cleaning.
That and Goo Gone. Not Goof Off, Goo Gone specifically.
Agreed. I think that whenever I need to get grease or any oil off my hands, that's what I go for.
I bet it never DAWNed on him
@@jeffsabados8075 Get out.
Jeffrey Sabados Bu dum tsssss
@@LesKing72 woooosh
That Vig20 was in process of fossilization and you will turn it into a Diamond. 💎
True xD
Martin Kronström I would make the machine replacement parts
Whatever computer he gets his hands on it, it turns pristine xD
🎵Shine bright like a diamond🎵
VIC-20*
OMG that's how my son started. It was the Vic 20 then the 64, then the big jump to the 128. I later bought a IBM PC jr, then IBM something I forget. My son is now 44 and is the tech guy for the City, PD, fire dept and whatever makes the city run. I remember sitting up in bed while he typed code into the computer, then we would run to the computer and plug in the disk and the program would run until it hit a glitch. We were copying the program out of a PC magazine. I would read the code from the magazine then he would say stop, that's the glitch, and back to the computer. I think my son was ten at the time. We formed a great son father relationship we enjoy today. I am now 80 years old and he is my go to guy when I have a computer program. His first question is usually "Dad, did you re-boot" ? oops and sure enough, if not, he logs onto my computer and types, Dad step away from the keyboard. Love those old Commadore Computers. My wristwatch does more than those old computers :-) .
Kenneth Bartlett
This comment makes me confused. You said you were 80 years old which isn’t possible, and then after you said you were 23?
Well Jack let me help you get un confused . I said I am now 80 years old, I was born in 1938 OK ? and where do I say I am 23 ?
very recognizable real story. I'm the son in this case ! My dad is also 80
oh how I remember copying all those DATA 54323, 957432, 123512,. 532880. 8589320 so on and so on from the computer magazine. Page after page, after page... Then going back thru and double checking all the entries. and then .... the moment of truth..
I nervously type RUN.
(it works!!!) my 2 days of data entry works!!!
My dad is 76 now (I'm 45), he got me my 1st computer a Texas Instruments TI-994a in 1982, I had the speech synthesizer for it also. Hunt the Wumpus!
next was the Christmas to trump all Christmases for a 14 year old boy -
December 25, 1986/
The gift wrap half off torn off.... .. is it? .... is it really????
a COMMODORE 64 !!!!! HOLY COW...... THUD (passed out in excitement). Come back to consciousness. kinda blurry ...and a MODEM!! a 300 baud modem??? THUD.
BEST CHRISTMAS EVER! That computer was a big part of my early teens.... and my introduction to computers. unreal everything that little 64K machine could do. The SID chip was amazing (the audio chip). Get SID PLAYER for Android in Google Play. They have the ENTIRE audio offerings that were ever made for the C64 and a SID Chip emulator program. Your phone becomes a little C64 music player. There are also a couple of C64 emulator programs available on Google Play too. They will run C64 programs just like the computer did. Blue screen and blinking cursor and all.
Thanks for the stroll down memory lane!
PS. I still have my C64... and it still works like a charm. Some of my floppy disks have stopped working though (not my drive, the actual disk... probably oxidation of the magnetic media. But most of them work still. including my disks of the programs I wrote in Basic copied out of the magazines just like you and your son used to do.
YES ! my son loved it....thanks
Finally! Someone who understands that skin grows back, towels and such do not.
the dark souls of computer restoration
Dude, my Commodore 64 and 1541 drive looked exactly the same way when I pulled them from a friend's shed after they were sitting outside a box for 20+ years. (There just wasn't any oil and the connectors were ok.) After heavy cosmetic cleaning mostly on the exterior, it fired right up and is still working fine now.
Sprays motherboard with a water hose, "and as you guessed I had some problems with the motherboard".
"The oil actually protects the motherboard from moisture, which can be harmful." *blitzkriegs the motherboard with water*
@@Emily-kd2zv You can submerge motherboards in water as long as you let it dry for a couple of days after. It should be fine. Did the same with my PC motherboard as a test 2 years ago and its still going
You clearly don't know how oxidation works. To damage the board with water you need to let it wet for days, or turn it on while wet or submerged. Actually, we clean almost every super dirty/dusty PCB with water at repair shops, it just need to be dried out.
@@lauratiso still funny tho
Marcus Tiso Putting boards in a dishwasher? No problem! (of course without detergent)
The 8-Bit Guy: All old computers deserve to be restored 13:20
Also The 8-Bit Guy: "Having a commodore 64 for spare parts"
Unfortunately, 3D printed parts weren't really an option yet.
The two nastiest computers I've ever worked on:
1. A college student's laptop that had been "water damaged." Only after I got it apart, did I find it had been urinated in.
2. A PC that was in the DJ booth of a strip club. In addition to smoking, they burned incense right next to this PC for years. The inside was coated in a thick, black reeky soot, that somehow managed to also be greasy.
I still can't say which was worse, but the memories of these machines haunt me to this day.
But why would someone piss on a laptop?
Mudkip The Godly Who knows? I figure someone was really plastered and/or thought it would be funny.
Cats do that all of the time.
t0dmacher “$20 and ill fucking piss on this laptop bro.”
Easiest $20 of my life
- Greek freak
As someone who burns incense probably more often than they should, I understand the reeking gunk you speak of.
I would have used some dawn dish soap diluted in water and a soft scrub brush as my first attempt (staying clear of any labels) and just using diluted dawn and a finger on the decals. Dawn would have cleaned that oil right off.
madmax2069 Can I use Cascade?
use piss its faster
Teaze don't know, just go to a store and buy a small bottle of dawn
madmax2069 Don’t know why dawn tho
Are you sponsored?
Teaze dawns just very good at removing oil
Seeing your interesting video i remembered when i came to usa for my studies. I bought a vic-20 and when i finished my studies i brought it back home to cyprus.Last time i saw it was about 20 years ago with the manual and schematic diagram along with some cassetes in almost mind condition.I searched the house for a while but i did not locate it. I hope i will find it soon.
christakis kalisperides απάντηση απο Ελλάδα, καλα ρε φιλε, τι κάνει αυτός ο David, το κάθε ξεχωριστό και μοναδικό θα το βρεις μόνο εδω, εχε χάρη που εχουμε αυτόν για κομπιουτερ 1980-1989 και τον Clint που ειναι το καναλι LGR ( Lazy Game Reviews ) που πρεπει να κάνεις subscribe, εκείνος κάνει review απο υπολογιστές 1990- αρχές 2000, ειναι καλός και αυτός , τέλος παντων, χάρηκα που ειδα έναν έλληνα τουλάχιστον εδω μεσα, νόμιζα πως ήμουν ο μόνος, αλλα τελικά φαίνεται πως παρακολουθούν και αλλοι, και θα ήθελα να σου πω συγχαριτηρια γι αυτο
This video may have been unplanned, but seriously it has been one of your very best.
This brings back memories. I maintained computers for a factory. They were using 80s era DOS PCs, connected to tape readers from the 70s. Much of it was proprietary hardware, no longer made. So whenever one failed, I'd have to take apart the filthy, nasty machine.
In cases of "critical gunk" like this, I use a 3M citrus based cleaner. Is basically lemon oil. And the best of all: Is water soluble. Is a little expensive but really worth the money.
There's cleaners available in Australia branded "Orange Power" which sound like they're made by someone with the same idea.
Looks exactly like the computers in the machine shop where I used to work. The cutting/cooling fluid would vaporize into the air and PCs would fill up with with the oily sludge. Once, I put a PC on its side and over the weekend the fluid oozed down into the corners of the case.
man your restoration videos help me so much with my insomnia, thank you
I've recently restored two C64's in almost identical condition, but with hardened cement between the keys. It was pretty challenging and now they both work fine ^^
How did you remove the cement?
i agree.. if you want to restore 50 C64's, you definitely should do it! It's a labor of love! Just.... i disagree with the last sentiment. Don't hoard them! They're not only collectible, they're things people love and which can spark their dreams! If you have this many stashed away, and no one's buying them - consider giving them away to fellow enthusiasts - people who would appreciate the value!
Carefully breaking the cement into pieces and lots of water (electronics removed).
Am I the only one stressing abt how he’s NOT WEARING GLOVES AHHH
BarryDennen12 😂😂😂
More like... are you the only one NOT stressing about no gloves.
@Cris Angelo D.C Nope. No one has any idea what you are talking about. Please tell us more. Does this magic you speak of reverse time to prevent toxic chemicals from affecting your hands the way gloves prevent toxic chemicals from touching your hands do?
I used to work at a factory with molding machines, four of the machines had Commodore PCs in them (though I'm not sure what kind, most likely the Vic 20 since the machines were built in 1985).
The other machines has Microsoft PCs in them, some with Windows 3.1 and the newest ones with Windows XP. It was...yeah, it was messy. Haha.
Makayla Serniotti Wouldn't doubt they'd be powered by them. Interesting what a home computer could do for industrial purposes.
Gg
Anyone else fall asleep to these videos? Maybe it me but David’s demeanor and voice are so relaxing. Love this channel better than 99% of TV.
David, I hope your tetanus shot is current.
The Obsolete Geek
Ughhh god
You made this difficult
The Obsolete Geek
When will you make more videos?
Gloves please!
Pretty amazing what you can find at a flea market :-)
lol
YESS 20 minute restoration video!! yay!!
Restoration? Commodore computer? Worst condition ever? You've got my attention. Instant click. :)
I just love seeing other people restoring oldschool stuff against all odds. Why? Because I've done it sometimes and It's just pleasantly relaxing to see someone else do it now. :D
CJWarlock I've been restoring a PS3 that was about 90% dust. It also has a ton of corrosion on the metal over the blu-ray drive and some of the shielding. Unbelievably, it was fully operational before I took it apart. The sole issue was that it would sound like a jet taking off after about 5 minutes of gameplay. Luckily I did buy it as faulty as the hard drive needed reformatting.
Congrats on the achievement! And on the working condition of that PS3 bought as faulty :)
Thanks
I love the shirt! My fiancee and I are currently watching Rick & Morty while we wait for Ghost of Tsushima to update on our PSPRO's. Man, watching your show is such a blast. It's like viewing the past through a tiny window (smartphone) and seeing how far we've come.
Can you imagine going back in time when this microcomputer was brand new and slapping a gaming PC in Bill Gates lap?! Something in the I7 or I9 Extreme line. I think his head would quite literally explode. Multi cored processor's, at least 16 gb of matching DDR4 RAM registered and buffered, GDDR5 GPU, water cooled or refrigerated, Blue Tooth laser mouse, and a standard Xbox One controller. This is what you helped to create Bill. We could also pre-smack him in the head for Windows Millennium....BAD BILL, BAD! I'm not a Mac fan....but that almost drove me to one.
Addendum- The Vic 20 predates me by quite a bit. That poor micro looks like it had a very hard life. I have never seen one in person before. My only experience with the micro's is a Commodore 128 and an old Colecovision turned into a full blown ADAM computer. I didn't really start messing with computers until late 1994 with the 486DX2.
looks like the previous owner got this out of a lake
More like the oil sump of their car!
Out of my plugged up toilet!
Like Excalibur ...
d2factotum LMAO
Or an oil pool.
Worst cliffhanger since Walking Dead episode with Negan
Diamond Snake no, ALF!
Since JR got shot!
George R R Martin dies before completing GOT
yes!!! Cliff Barnes and JR. The oil baron's ball. lol.
You preferred literal Force Awakens cliffhanger?
You can't say it in terrible condition unless you've see a dead rat inside the computer
And they say the gameboy was the only commercial electronic device to survive an explosion.
Formerly owned by British Petroleum.
computer: be full of oil
us government: 🤔
Get THAT 🅱OYE
Bob Emrich 🤣
This computer need DEMOCRACY !
This computer needs some freedom.
dId I hEaR OiL?
Consider a razor blade for scraping gunk off next time. Same concept as the screwdriver but you can finesse it more.
True, but I think the reason he used a slot screwdriver is because the edge is not as sharp. That way he could scrape off the gunk (whatever it was) on the outside of the case with less chance of damaging the plastic.
Bobby Horton ok but dawn is made to use on dishes?
@I Live In A Van Down By The River would likely break off too much of the plastic tbh
@@deepfriedwafflesStill the same concept. Oil is oil.
We had a Vic-20 as one of our first gaming computers. We had a full kit for it with the tape deck, several game cartridges, and a dot matrix printer with word processor software.
those were the days
looks like water damage. perhaps it survived a flood?
an oily flood
probably wwii
Reminds me of when I was doing some cleanup work after Hurricane Katrina. The floods washed out a local oil refinery, causing the oil to mix with the floodwaters. It had soaked into the carpets of the house we worked on. I guess it wouldn't surprise me too much if someone had tried to salvage this from a Katrina house, although it's less likely that they would have let it sit around for a whole decade after that.
My guess is it coukd have been near a fire where sprinklers went off. Smoke can be very oily.
Or mabye it was used in a oil refinery
YES! finally another restoration! haven’t even watched the video yet but i know it’s gonna be good!
you should really invest in a 3d printer for those plunger issues :)
He own one
Not a bad idea. But, if there is not an existing model out there, you do need some CAD experience.
In a more recent video, he 3d prints one but doesn't like how it "bobbles".
@@mahna_mahna wouldn't that be an issue of the 3d model/plastic used instead of printing itself
Don't ever use mag wheel cleaner as it contains caustic soda which eats the metals of the motherboard. Not good for electronics. And never use water for the same reason. My advice would be to soak the entire motherboard in benzine as it's totally inert. It dries very fast and won't damage the electronics. If that doesn't do the trick use automotive spray carb cleaner as the oil and dirt will just spray off instantly, without any rubbing. Then rinse the residue off with benzine.
By the way, if you ever drop your cellphone in water, put your entire phone into a jar/flask of benzine, shake it around and take it out to dry which only takes a few minutes. I've never lost a cellphone that way, but using water or caustic soda on any electronic circuit is asking for trouble. I hope you found this useful.
Water will do nothing to any circuit that's not powered. They literally wash motherboards in the factories. Where do people get this crap?
@@evilkillerwhale7078 It depends on the components. Most can handle a water wash and many can't. It's safest to use be benzine as it's inert. Most cellphones won't work if they're dropped in water.
I like the Un-scripted dialogue, it felt more personal to listen to, thanks!
Most TH-camrs think they can be just like real tv. They try, but fail epically. The only way to reach TH-cam success is to be yourself in the fullest of that definition. No script, no jump cuts, and treat your audience with senior top commander war veteran levels of respect.
This is my favorite type of video on your channel. I believe the "vibe" I like in something like this is due to the fact that it wasn't really "planned in advance" as you said in the beginning and possibly because it was such a complete mess that getting it to work would be an AMAZING accomplishment. I love the "get your hands REALLY dirty" and the experimental "follow along as I succeed by failing" aspect. I do find it HYSTERICALLY FUNNY how averse you are to getting your hands dirty touching that "mystery oil". :)
It would be interesting to figure out what causes the discoloration of plastic with the break cleaner. Is it a "permenant" discoloration? Does it seep into the plastic? Or is it something that could be "fixed" after with the retro-brite technique? I have some old yellow-y computer crap in a storage unit I might test it out just for my own curiosity.
One thing that has happened to modern computing is the complete inability to "fix" our computerized devices. Everything is glued together. Even Apple won't fix a lot of their devices as it's cheaper and easier to simply replace the entire thing. I really really miss the old days when I could disassemble a bunch of macs where I worked in a graphic design studio. Swapping out video cards or ram (Sorry Steve, but Joe really needs that video card and ram more than you because he's doing 3D. You will get the next upgrade promise). I remember those horrible analog mice with hard rubber balls and rollers that had to be cleaned regularly. Now, forget about it. If I COULD pry apart my macbook pro without destroying it, there really isn't much I can do with it anyway.
Next time, try Dawn dishwashing detergent. Another option is either Simple Green or Mean Green degreasers. All of these should work well for this type of cleaning.
Was going to say the same thing. I wonder what Dave has against using dish detergents. Just leave to soak in a plastic tub. I use that to clean all my thrift/ebay stuff and it works well. The damage to the plastic caused by the brake cleaner made me cringe.
I can second using Simple Green. I used to use Simple Green when working at a local manufacturer. I ran a CNC there, and they would get covered in a sludge made of fiberglass dust, coolant from the machines, grease, and dirt blown in from outside. The CNCs would be black with grime at the end of each day. We used Simple Green to clean everything, and at the end of each day, I'd spend a good chunk of time just cleaning the machine I was running that day. It worked very well, made those CNCs look like new.
Dave D simple green also removes corrosion.
to clean oil stains you use "heavy-duty hand cleaning paste" or just "CIF Cream" which is in any household
14:14 everything looks pretty good after some alcohol.
Definitivamente este hombre es el santo patrón de las computadoras antiguas, su canal es genial!!, siempre lo veo, un abrazo fuerte desde Bolivia mi hermano.
i agree.. if you want to restore 50 C64's, you definitely should do it! It's a labor of love! Just.... i disagree with the last sentiment. Don't hoard them! They're not only collectible, they're things people love and which can spark their dreams! If you have this many stashed away, and no one's buying them - consider giving them away to fellow enthusiasts - people who would appreciate the value!
The C64 still stands as the best-selling home computer of all time and is in use even today for a variety of things by it's enthusiasts. It's truly timeless. :)
@15:08 it got the hose again, so it must have put the lotion on its skin.
It rubs the lotion on its skin *or else* it gets the hose again. XOR.
Yeah, I got my hose -> lotion mapping wrong.
Shaik Corso It does tend to put the lotion on pretty much everything.
Robert Baruch
It's because you forgot to put the line break in when writing the code.
A movie thin. So samrt
I said this years ago, but I cant find it now - theres foam spray for car uphostery - car stain remover foam, its got a tiny bit of ammonia in it, it's as good as benzene for cleaning stuff but about as toxic as washing machine powder.