+Skooma Much Rome 1 is the best. Shogun maps are so small and restricted. The most manouvering you can do is going around this ridge or that ridge, this choke point or that choke point, this side of the lake or the other and that is as far as manouvering in Shoguns go.
I'm a little interested in why Rome 2 is bad. I know it had bugs but I heard a large amount were removed. Didn't they just improve on Shogun 2? I love shogun 2 and I wanted Rome 2 when it went on sale...
bakester17 They did not. No sir. Shogun 2 is an improvement on earlier titles and on rome 2. If you're not a fan of the series since rome 1 it won't hurt as bad. You won't even know anything's that bad if you're completely new. But they stripped many features that were core to the series, used an engine that turned infantry combat into a nightmare before your very eyes, and left a lot to be desired where improvements could have been abundant.
I just bought a laptop last week and I missed out on it being free but honestly I don't care. The game so far is like an insane samurai chess match it's incredible
That ending: him saying that this might be total war's last hurrah, that total war needed to do something fresh and that maybe going for a not so historical setting is a step in the right direction. That is a lot of predictions that came true.
MusketWalrus Hopefully they will make it at least enjoyable. I know Empire sucked at launch and it eventually became good a while later. I hope the same thing happens with rome 2 but it might be too late already.
Almighty Loaf I don't even understand how this franchise can have more than two time periods represented in it, considering there has only been TWO wars in all of human history: The Crimean War and Rome vs. Carthage
***** SectorOneAlpha Kingdoms was the last innovative TW expansion too, in my opinion. After that, the Warscape engine and the poor design decisions, on top of not properly Beta testing their games, CA has pretty much kicked the bucket with Rome II. But you know what? THEY DONT CARE. They got 40% more pre-orders from Rome 2 than ANY Total War game to date. They're just gonna continue to DLC whore and people will buy every little thing
wowsuchname verysurname Wait... you just said there are none, thus following it up by saying the ones that are there are horrible make it an oxymoronic sentence.
your obviously just a hater/troll because there are great cutsences in Shogun 2. Rome 2 however has almost none. Love you see keyboard warriors in forums they have no clue about.
I disagree, I think Shogun 2 while good is only middle of the road in the series. Rome 2, Empire and Medieval 2 are better imo. I say this based on the games as they are now not as they were at release. The biggest thing for Shogun 2 is its time period which rocks but everything else about it is pretty bad. Medieval 2 and Empire the AI cheats but the level at which the AI cheats in Shogun 2 is horrific, e.g im playing it atm on hard as Shimazu and I own all of Kyushu, ive invaded Shikoku owning the 2 provinces, the Chosokabe have the other 2 and they have 2 full banner armies made up exclusively of Samurai not a single Ashiguru on top of this they have 2 huge navies made up of Sengoku Bane, I can barely support this with 4 times the provinces, they dont even have any trade partners I have 4. The game is not that well optimized, I can have 4+ full banner armies on Rome 2 with settings maxed and running at triple speed, with 2 full banners on Shogun 2 i cant even run at triple speed without the frame rate tanking. The game after 20 turns is just 4-6 huge clans on my game there are 5 left after 38 turns with Chosakabe dead it will be 4! Diplomacy is horrible too i mean i offer Chosakabe peace and despite them having only 2 territory left they say no, but then again if I had unlimited money id say no too. Dont get me wrong its a decent game, but too many rose colored glasses are worn when talking about Shogun 2.
callum flude dude, you had some valid points, and then you mentioned rome 2. Come on, that game REQUIRES rose colored glasses to be considered worthwhile. For its time and even still to date Shogun 2 pulled almost everything together that the series is trying to do. You have to at least realize that it was the most polished of the franchise right?
RoboticApplesauce "Polished" is used in so many different ways by so many different people i dont tend to use the word if you can clarify what you yourself mean by polished I could answer your question a bit better. But fast battles, super agents, op archers, bad AI, bad diplomacy (all things ive seen people complain about Rome 2 for) are basically the exact same in Shogun 2, especially the fast battles and if anything archers in Shogun 2 are even stronger comparatively to their Rome 2 cousins Samurai Archers in numbers of 4-5 squads can pretty much take out a unit with one volley. The Ai gets a boost in Rome 2 sure in terms of economy but its a fixed amount of something like 800-1000 for the smaller factions its in the game files but in Shogun 2 the AI cheats like a mother fucker, the Chosokabe i mentioned in my earlier comment, literally one hour ago when i was playing (keep in mind they have 2 settlements left) I destroyed their 2 full banner armies (full of samurai) when they attacked a fort i own, I lost a lot of my troops but figured hey at least they take time to rebuild what they lost but nope before I had even recovered from that last attack another full stack of samurai attacked me lol needless to say I lost the town, unless they were somehow supporting 60 units of Samurai of off 2 towns then they just pulled that army out of their ass, but tbh this isnt new news people have known about the AI spawning armies for ages. People complained that Rome 2 had too fast battles but Shogun 2 has the exact same battles. example that 2 v 1 i mentioned a bit a go contained about 6000 troops and was over in about 10 mins. Sure Rome 2 has a worse interface especially when generals level up etc but it has so many thing which are better than Shogun 2, for example Rome 2 you get 2-4 cities= 1 province, control the province get a bonus (edict) this is without a doubt the best settlement system a total war game has had to date.
Playing Shogun 2 after Rome 2, and damn, its like a breath of fresh air. Yeah, while Emperor Edition fixes most of the bugs etc. its still medicore game.
callum flude Fair enough, by polished i simply mean implementing the games concepts in such a way that they work as intended. While some mechanics may be not fleshed out, or slightly unbalanced, the game is still what the developers envisioned. Shogun 2 might not be perfect but one cant deny that it is a finished game with many of its main and most side mechanics working fluidly enough that the majority of people who have played it can understand the difference in play-ability when comparing this game and Rome 2. The biggest problem is that even after the patches Rome 2 still does not behave like a complete game, with certain parts or sequences feeling rushed or incomplete. As Joe said in his Rome 2 video its a general problem in game development these days that developers are rushed for a final product. That said, we as a community don't have to accept that and in fact we should be calling out flaws. Rome 2 is a clear downgrade from Shogun 2, maybe not in technology but definitely in at least Combat AI, Menu design, and overall streamlining (waiting five minutes for the AI to finish their turns is absolutely exhausting). While i understand, and actually agree with many of your problems with game balancing, you cant compare them to the incredible glitchy marvel to unfinished game design that Rome 2 represents. Thank you for fleshing out the discussion, its nice to have a good TH-cam debate every now and then :)
GenericFakeName warring three kingdoms china would be great kinda like a dynasty warriors like setting with shu wu and wei with other factions like the yellow turban army, dong zhao, jin etc
No, he said he was worried about the future of CA's actual "creative assembly"and he was right the new total war has no good innovation and ugh. . don't get anyone started on this.
My problem with TW Warhammer is when I first started a siege battle against the dwarves I.was expecting this awesome imposing fortress crafted by the best dwarves, and well...uh...I ended up pouring bleach all over.my computer and then drinking it. Siege battles are so fun and how the new "battles," if they can even be called that, have utterly shat on them. *sigh* they pissed me.off with warhammer so much it's just not a TW game imo. No formations, no good sieges, and no naval battles. Oh and for.some reason neither my dwarven or orcish campaigns were able to get past turn 100 not sure if it's a bug but it was my last straw.
I'm somewhat concerned that Joe's suggestions at the end of this video were the launching points for the Rome 2 Abortion. They had a good thing going... If it's not broken, dont' fix it.'
11:05 i only watched this after watching your rome 2 review. too bad. you are right though, the options are limitless. As long as they stick with swords and spears. I do not think they should do WWII total war. Some disagree with me on this.
It would have been cool if they got the interns to do the peasant soldier animations, and the professionals for the samurai. Then we could see a difference between the two.
Well, in that period the ashigaru were often times professional soldiers, sometimes even better in single combat than samurai. Some of them even had better Armour than lesser Samurai.
thank you for your review. I played the older version of total war and this is light years away!!. I started playing total war 2. I was quite versed in the older version. Very impressed with the graphics of the present game . I am disappointed though that no matter how low the difficulty level I am unable to make any progress. I am always stuck with poor economy, hunger and no allies no matter how hard and early I try. Never make a harbor quick enough to secure a trading rout. Its like I am playing at the most difficult level , yet I am at "normal". Can you suggest what I am doing wrong??
Xevan yeah. and i love how the units plays out. they don't look fake and they don't pushed against each other and ending up in a moshpit, and l like how the campaign and battle map plays out, rome 2, attila and warhammer looks so off.
I have watched this about four times in the last six hours, I have no plans to stop watching this. Honestly, the Geisha moment might be my favorite thing on youtube, I genuinely laughed at that. This is one of my favorite games of all time. I have played thousands of hours of it and I have never been bored once. Each time I am able to strategically play the game with enough distinction that even if I played the Takeda a hundred times I would be satisfied that I hadn't played the game the same way twice.
What movie was that at the beginning? At first I thought it was the Battle of Nagashino where the Takeda Cavalry was wiped out by Oda muskets, but then it looked like the main character was Masamune Date. I is teh confus.
Try checking movies done by Akira Kurosawa like "Heaven and Earth" or "Kagemusha". Although all the works by Akira Kurosawa on samurai are really good especially the Seven Samurai....and don't forget the tv series Fuurin Kazan.
Shogun 2 is still my third favorite behind Rome 1 and Medieval 2... an EXTREMELY close third. Gameplay-wise it is by far the best and most polished.. I'm just a bigger fan of the Roman and Medieval time periods so that's my own bias. However, Shogun 2 is an absolutely gorgeous and well-made game that I could tell was made with passion by the developers, especially Fall of the Samurai. FOS was essentially Creative Assembly saying "yeah, about Empire... that was our bad."
Mostly bad AI, poor scripting, numerous glitches in the map/terrain, not to mention the campaign AI was EXTREMELY forgiving, much like Dawn of War Soulstorm, you have it on any difficulty and the AI just does nothing...
***** It's because the warscape engine is terrible and doesn't compliment melee combat, even here in Shogun 2. I don't like this 1v1 scripted bullshit, it rustles my jimmies badly. What's worse is Rome II doesn't care about fixing bugs, just DLC whoring.
Lot's of things were wrong but IMO the thing which did not get enough attention were the siege battles. Empire and Napoleon's siege battles are the worst in the series and a complete joke. In previous games a fort could allow a much smaller army survive an attack by a much larger one and at the very least force you to play differently and think carefully and forts in different parts of the world were different maps entirely and also depended on how the settlement was upgraded . In Napoleon and Empire it's just two forts, the Star forts from Renaissance Italy, just fantastic. Yes the ME factions had different forts but they were still the same thing just different skins. The main issue though was on the one hand every fort was the same, it didn't matter if you were attacking Paris or Innsbruck the forts were the same, no city streets, no buildings, just the same walls surrounding a couple of military houses. On top of this forts gave little advantage to the defender, every infantry unit can climb up the walls without needing a ladder because they had grappling hooks, so there goes the strategy behind siege towers and ladders and hello to having to defend every single spot on the fort removing any advantage it could've had. The fort walls provide cannons for infantry on them, but they can't shift left and right so all the attacker has to do is attack the corner. On top of this once the enemy has taken the walls it was over because there was nothing inside the fort, in Medieval 2 that could very well have only been the first step and then even more intense fighting awaited the enemy inside. On top of this attacking a settlement was very dumbed down to the point that there was no longer any difference between attacking a settlement and attacking out in the open unless the player or the AI invested the money into building a fort, which they rarely did, for the AI because it doesn't like to invest the money in that and the player because most players hated playing siege battles. It sucked because what really would've made the game better would've been unique maps to settlements so that attacking Constantinople had a realistic map which well mirrored the real Constantinople, a city surrounded by water and with thick levels of walls surrounding it. A map like that would require naval and land units so Medieval 2 couldn't do it. The forts in Empire/Napoleon would've been great and made alot of sense if they were some frontier fort like at the border or in the America's, but it doesn't make any sense for anything else, not even for a tiny city. Empire/Napoleon could've at least created a unique siege battle for Vienna, Berlin, Paris, Moscow and London. But instead attacking one of them was the same as attacking the other, the factions were different but there was no unique units that came to play, the King himself wouldn't be on the battlefield to protect his capital (ok Moscow was the not the capital of Russia at the time). The worst part is is that they were rare, so the game knows how much they suck and avoids siege battles as much as possible meaning even CA knew how much they sucked.
I'm having trouble playing it. it crashes whenever I try to start a game or tutorial. I've had this game for over a year. I really want to play it, but it keeps crashing once I go to play a campaign. any ideas?
I started with Medieval 2 , played some Rome, Napoleon is really AWESOME and Empire, but Rome 2...I'm thinking about buying Shogun 2 instead, I have limited budget, so, does any1 still play Shogun 2 ?
On Shogun 2 I generally play with one large army and my settlement defended with a garrison for my buildings to save money, then use ninjas and geisha to halt armies, on rise of the samurai this is easier due to junatsuchi being able to ask for the allegiance of enemy provinces if they support your clan, this can be done by simply having your junatsuchi in their territory.
This is the only Total War game that makes me totally submerged into the world. I played like 200+ hours on Rome 2 and Attila, but 1500+ hours on Shogun 2.
What were promised in the trailer and the "magical flags" we got now are 2 completely different thing: In that Cartharge seige trailer for R2, they promised us a capture points system so each capture means something (bonuses, morale boosts, etc. which were already in custom battles in S2), and all we got a random magical flags out of nowhere thing instead. R2TW is unfinished game and we are paid 60$ to beta-test.
Will it run well enough on my MacBook, i know they released a mac version and that my specs do meet the min req. Processor 2.26 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo Memory 4 GB 1067 MHz DDR3
Who's this angryjoe guy? Good review, i've never played but i accidentally bought the entire total war collection on sale hahah trying this game now, great review! Subscribed!
Reasons why Angry Joe is my favorite reviewer 1: His reviews are honest and trustworthy 2: He doesn't have to kiss anyone's ass and have to give dishonest reviews 3: his reviews are funny and extremely interesting 4: You can tell the amount of time and effort he puts into reviews because they are fun to watch.
Okay so, i've only played this Total War and I thought it did a really good job (with the exception of the diplomacy AI and... well the AI in general at times). Why exactly do other people think this game sucks in comparison to games like Rome 1 Total War or Medieval II: Total War, what do they offer and do well that this game doesn't?
Mostly complaints that it offers less unit and faction variety. I guess also the more streamlined family tree, although you get so few generals that it makes them more valuable. Then there are the fringe contingent who says that Total War should always stay European because....I don't know.
Because a lot of people consider Rome 1 or Medieval 1/2 as the apex of the series, also, because the majority of Total War has been set in European theaters or had a big focus on them (Empire and Nappy).
I actually went back and played a domination campaign on legendary mode in Shogun II due to how bad Rome II sucked. Let's see if CA can fix that mess, since the idea and direction isn't bad (except for that damn flag), but the game is just too buggy and the ai too stupid.
Indeed, the game is great. I started out with getting the game on sale with all DLC (best choice I ever made, great game for a great price), and as I played and even modded the game, I fell in love with it, and now I have the Fall of the Samurai DLC and the DLC for said DLC (Yes, it is one of those weird things where a DLC has its own DLC) and I am about to see if the DLC is just as great as the main game and the Rise of the Samurai DLC.
Looks Like Total Lag II to me. Wanting to play but wondering how my i5 4210u 2.4 ghz will fare on this. I have gtx 850m but I hear game is pretty demanding on CPU ?
+Alfred Ashford I liked it too. I guess the release version was a mess, but when I got it... I liked it. Only thing I would complain is the artillery not being able to hit anything.
Everywhere I go there is no hard copy available which is a big disappointment. It would be cool to control each individual and be more fused with open world/rpg/mature/online as well as be able to choose ninja. I might buy the game today to try it out after I complete my research. Do they have regular updates to clear any bugs? Is Fall and Rise different versions or something? Expansion pack (buy/install shogun 2 and than have to buy/install Rise as an extension)? I called Best Buy and other stores and I cannot seem to get a good answer.
I got the Gold edition (which you can still get on Gamestop.com) where you download it once and i get Fall and Rise without downloading separately, and yes, Rise is before normal so there are different units along with some different clans, and Fall is when there are 2 factions (Shogunate vs Empire) where you can choose clans inside of them, Shogunate is more of a sword and bow type that are great in close combat, and Empire implements guns and cannons. No there are no longer any updates because the series has moved on to Rome 2, but right after you download it, you will have to update it, for they sent them out while this was the newest, and I have never seen any bugs because they were practically all removed with the old updates. Hope this helps!
Just out of curiosity, how good is Total war Attila? Is it a step up from Rome 2 or a step down? I never played it and reviews weren't really... reviews, so I need community opinions :)
I bought Empire Total War on steam recently and I'm really enjoying it. A huge patch was released in 2012 I think that fixed a lot of the games bugs. Also, if you do get the game now. Download the darthmod as it improves a lot on the games features.
"allies" and backstabbing or just having your allies watch as you get slaughtered, may not actually be a lack in the ai but rather a realistic way of showing that you can't trust any other clan really. e.g. i had conquered 3 or 4 enemy factions together with the uesugi and shortly after they stabbed me in the back where it hurt most. so generally the best tactic is to betray your allies before they can do the same to you :)
You probably activated Realm Divide which means diplomacy is impossible. All the clans are now against you and in favor of the Shogun for the sake of status quo. Your allies won't turn against you, not right away but if pay attention to their relation status with you, you will notice it going down fast to Hostile. You will also notice your ally or allies dragging their feet more and being less willing to help you. Basically, think of it this way: everyone wants to be Shogun and that means they won't help someone else get it.
I haven't played shogun 2 yet, although I do remember in medieval that if you wanted to ask someone to attack someone else, you sent a diplomat to them and used 'Attack faction'. just a thought on what Joe said in the video.
Hey guys I have a question, I like games like Rome Total War (the first one) and Civilization 5. So my question is.... would I like this game? Just based on other games I like?
Honestly get Rome 1 and it's expansion Barbarian Invasion, MEdieval 2 and Kingdoms, and Shogun 2 and the dlc if you want. These games are probably the best in the series.
Merland5 Napoleon is actually also a very well made, rounded game - it takes what was good about Empire but without all the issues - it's a really fun, strategic period of history to play in and you find yourself using actual Napoleonic tactics to achieve your goals - True it isn't a groundbreaking game like the original Rome but it's very polished and I would highly recommend it.
+Iam Cleaver Idk about Attila but shogun 2 is far better than rome 2, GRAPHICS: I don't have a really good gaming rig but i can still play shogun 2 on ultra with at least 4000 units on each side, all while above 30 fps rome 2 if i put it on ultra i get 23 fps and it won't even look that good. only thing about rome 2 that i like is that on med to low the game can have massive armies attack each other and the animations won't lag to all hell
Am I the only one who thinks Medieval 2 is the best totalwar game up to now? It IS followed by shogun 2 in my eyes but i like medieval 2 more, i know it sounds odd but i like medieval 2's graphics more, it's like CS:S or CS 1.6 vs CS:GO to me, a lot of people like both but most agree that old is gold :D
I own Rome: Total War and suggest you go for that. There are a lot of different combat tactics such as a Shield Wall and Phalanx, and you will never feel more badass than when you first order your Roman Cohorts with full units on max settings to form a Testuedo. I am currently addicted however so be warned. I currently own almost the whole franchise. At worse it is always something you can fall back on if you don't like it, as it is a unique time period.
I've played Total War for god knows how long, and while I'm not saying Rome is bad, Shogun 2 is just.. so amazing. My favorite, in my opinion. I could list tons of reasons but honestly its your choice. The vote in the comments here seems to be 3 Shogun, 2 Rome, so again it's your choice. Both are great though, I don't think you'll be disappointed either way :)
"My gripe is that you have to kill or break every single unit. no capture the flag modes"
Be careful what you wish for
Lol
Nonce
Rome 2 launch really bit him in the ass there, eh?
Its not very hard to break them just have to hit them on their flank
"...Best Total War game to date"
it still is
+Skooma Much Totally agree with that.
+Skooma Much Rome 1 is the best. Shogun maps are so small and restricted. The most manouvering you can do is going around this ridge or that ridge, this choke point or that choke point, this side of the lake or the other and that is as far as manouvering in Shoguns go.
Mr.Cows
SHHHAMMMMMEFRUUU DISPRAY!
Better than Attila as well as Rome!
*****
"hope is a dangerous thing, it can drive a man insane" - Red
"Can't wait to see what Total war has for us next"...... Ahhhh poor past Joe, he never saw the future coming....
crying.
Freaking sucks mane ;-;
Be afraid....be veeerrryyyyy afraid.
I'm a little interested in why Rome 2 is bad. I know it had bugs but I heard a large amount were removed. Didn't they just improve on Shogun 2? I love shogun 2 and I wanted Rome 2 when it went on sale...
bakester17 They did not. No sir. Shogun 2 is an improvement on earlier titles and on rome 2. If you're not a fan of the series since rome 1 it won't hurt as bad. You won't even know anything's that bad if you're completely new. But they stripped many features that were core to the series, used an engine that turned infantry combat into a nightmare before your very eyes, and left a lot to be desired where improvements could have been abundant.
Oh my god, Its a thin Angry Joe. LOL
StNico but less healthy lol
Oh my god, a body-shamer
Jacob Wells calling a thin person thin is body shaming?
@@mijaco999 That's an sjw for you
@Fat Hibiki I thought they where gone
Whos watching this in 2019? So much rewatch values...
Lavender Ocean 2020 here. Middle of the quarantine. Still one of the better titles in the series....
Its free now hehe
Ha ki I know! Literally playing it right now 😂
I just bought a laptop last week and I missed out on it being free but honestly I don't care. The game so far is like an insane samurai chess match it's incredible
Just so funny to watch this and read the comments asking for China in 2020
Angry Joe made me a Shogun 2 addict.
Is it better than being a prison addict?
Cody Hines of course
+Badass Elite Good to hear. :)
Do you think its still good to start today? Ive never played
Nikola Milutinovic It's a good game. If you like strategy games you should get it.
11:11 Damn Joe predicted Rome 2
George Zhang what movie is it
Heh. "My gripe is that you have to kill or break every unit. No capture the point modes"
Well, that sure got "fixed" in Rome 2, didn't it?
I wonder how many costumes Joe has...
COUPLEAHUNDREDOFTHEM
Jontron Refrence?
Cody Hines Yep
I ain't havin' that shit.
+Cody Hines He hires most of them, he would own some though.
2021, still one of the best total war games ever
2023, still one of the best total war games, and will be for quite a long time.
@@p_pattedd5477 Quite literally the best (ok Rome 1 is pretty great, too).
That ending: him saying that this might be total war's last hurrah, that total war needed to do something fresh and that maybe going for a not so historical setting is a step in the right direction.
That is a lot of predictions that came true.
well not the last one
warhammer was and is abysmal
@@GodofToast blub dud nub
Warhammer and Troy are just terrible. Everything after FotS has been garbage. No unit collision, weightless projectiles, good lord.
@@TheSmokeyDawn spitting fact after fact after fact
@@TheSmokeyDawn nah, Warhammer is a goat total war game.
He predicted Rome II at 11:11 and Total War Warhammer at 11:37 :o
Ajsa=illuminati confirmed
he didnt tho.
He did because Rome 2 sucks balls.
Rome was shit at release, but aint bad now
Im here from the future of 2022.
Total War Shogun 2, was unfortunately the best and the last real Total War game in the series. Sad, but true.
so it wasn't a shamefur dispray?
No...Rome II (dare I say its name) was a truly shamefur dispray.
agreed
MusketWalrus Hopefully they will make it at least enjoyable. I know Empire sucked at launch and it eventually became good a while later. I hope the same thing happens with rome 2 but it might be too late already.
"I can not wait to see what total war has for us next" *watches Total war: Rome Review
Almighty Loaf If he would ever read your comment, he'd kill you. Total War Rome TWOOO!!! TWOOO!!! ONE IS PERFECT
jol666aaa
was talking about 2 my bad
Almighty Loaf Looking forward to seeing what Warhammer has to offer
warriorfire8103 I thought Attila was pretty good.
Almighty Loaf I don't even understand how this franchise can have more than two time periods represented in it, considering there has only been TWO wars in all of human history:
The Crimean War and Rome vs. Carthage
I prefer this over Rome 2 any day.
Medieval Total War 2?
***** The last true Total War.
***** SectorOneAlpha Kingdoms was the last innovative TW expansion too, in my opinion. After that, the Warscape engine and the poor design decisions, on top of not properly Beta testing their games, CA has pretty much kicked the bucket with Rome II. But you know what?
THEY DONT CARE. They got 40% more pre-orders from Rome 2 than ANY Total War game to date. They're just gonna continue to DLC whore and people will buy every little thing
Merland5 Wait wait wait... what!?
*****
yop
I honestly really liked the CGI cutscenes in the games actually >.
theres none you fuckhead, and the ones that are in there are shit
wowsuchname verysurname Wait... you just said there are none, thus following it up by saying the ones that are there are horrible make it an oxymoronic sentence.
your obviously just a hater/troll because there are great cutsences in Shogun 2. Rome 2 however has almost none. Love you see keyboard warriors in forums they have no clue about.
LordVader1094 well theres obviously ones in there but the ones in there could hardly be called cutscenes. Thats sorta what I was getting at
wowsuchname verysurname You shouldn't of said there were none then :P Plus it was rather rude insulting me just for my opinion on the cutscenes.
who’s watching after 10 years?
We all are 👍
Same as I doing
The intro always kills me. " P U S S I E E E E E "
Shogun 2 is still by far the best Total War game.
I disagree, I think Shogun 2 while good is only middle of the road in the series. Rome 2, Empire and Medieval 2 are better imo. I say this based on the games as they are now not as they were at release. The biggest thing for Shogun 2 is its time period which rocks but everything else about it is pretty bad. Medieval 2 and Empire the AI cheats but the level at which the AI cheats in Shogun 2 is horrific, e.g im playing it atm on hard as Shimazu and I own all of Kyushu, ive invaded Shikoku owning the 2 provinces, the Chosokabe have the other 2 and they have 2 full banner armies made up exclusively of Samurai not a single Ashiguru on top of this they have 2 huge navies made up of Sengoku Bane, I can barely support this with 4 times the provinces, they dont even have any trade partners I have 4. The game is not that well optimized, I can have 4+ full banner armies on Rome 2 with settings maxed and running at triple speed, with 2 full banners on Shogun 2 i cant even run at triple speed without the frame rate tanking. The game after 20 turns is just 4-6 huge clans on my game there are 5 left after 38 turns with Chosakabe dead it will be 4! Diplomacy is horrible too i mean i offer Chosakabe peace and despite them having only 2 territory left they say no, but then again if I had unlimited money id say no too. Dont get me wrong its a decent game, but too many rose colored glasses are worn when talking about Shogun 2.
callum flude dude, you had some valid points, and then you mentioned rome 2. Come on, that game REQUIRES rose colored glasses to be considered worthwhile. For its time and even still to date Shogun 2 pulled almost everything together that the series is trying to do. You have to at least realize that it was the most polished of the franchise right?
RoboticApplesauce "Polished" is used in so many different ways by so many different people i dont tend to use the word if you can clarify what you yourself mean by polished I could answer your question a bit better. But fast battles, super agents, op archers, bad AI, bad diplomacy (all things ive seen people complain about Rome 2 for) are basically the exact same in Shogun 2, especially the fast battles and if anything archers in Shogun 2 are even stronger comparatively to their Rome 2 cousins Samurai Archers in numbers of 4-5 squads can pretty much take out a unit with one volley. The Ai gets a boost in Rome 2 sure in terms of economy but its a fixed amount of something like 800-1000 for the smaller factions its in the game files but in Shogun 2 the AI cheats like a mother fucker, the Chosokabe i mentioned in my earlier comment, literally one hour ago when i was playing (keep in mind they have 2 settlements left) I destroyed their 2 full banner armies (full of samurai) when they attacked a fort i own, I lost a lot of my troops but figured hey at least they take time to rebuild what they lost but nope before I had even recovered from that last attack another full stack of samurai attacked me lol needless to say I lost the town, unless they were somehow supporting 60 units of Samurai of off 2 towns then they just pulled that army out of their ass, but tbh this isnt new news people have known about the AI spawning armies for ages. People complained that Rome 2 had too fast battles but Shogun 2 has the exact same battles. example that 2 v 1 i mentioned a bit a go contained about 6000 troops and was over in about 10 mins. Sure Rome 2 has a worse interface especially when generals level up etc but it has so many thing which are better than Shogun 2, for example Rome 2 you get 2-4 cities= 1 province, control the province get a bonus (edict) this is without a doubt the best settlement system a total war game has had to date.
Playing Shogun 2 after Rome 2, and damn, its like a breath of fresh air. Yeah, while Emperor Edition fixes most of the bugs etc. its still medicore game.
callum flude Fair enough, by polished i simply mean implementing the games concepts in such a way that they work as intended. While some mechanics may be not fleshed out, or slightly unbalanced, the game is still what the developers envisioned.
Shogun 2 might not be perfect but one cant deny that it is a finished game with many of its main and most side mechanics working fluidly enough that the majority of people who have played it can understand the difference in play-ability when comparing this game and Rome 2.
The biggest problem is that even after the patches Rome 2 still does not behave like a complete game, with certain parts or sequences feeling rushed or incomplete. As Joe said in his Rome 2 video its a general problem in game development these days that developers are rushed for a final product. That said, we as a community don't have to accept that and in fact we should be calling out flaws.
Rome 2 is a clear downgrade from Shogun 2, maybe not in technology but definitely in at least Combat AI, Menu design, and overall streamlining (waiting five minutes for the AI to finish their turns is absolutely exhausting). While i understand, and actually agree with many of your problems with game balancing, you cant compare them to the incredible glitchy marvel to unfinished game design that Rome 2 represents.
Thank you for fleshing out the discussion, its nice to have a good TH-cam debate every now and then :)
A total war game set in ancient China would be awesome.
except its just crushing revolts for 60% of the time, playing CK2 for 30% of the time, and watching your dynasty die to mongols 10% of the time
Yea, but commanding ancient chinese armies and running the factories would be awesome
GenericFakeName warring three kingdoms china would be great kinda like a dynasty warriors like setting with shu wu and wei with other factions like the yellow turban army, dong zhao, jin etc
GenericFakeName A China: Total War is the biggest miss oppurtunity ever. Creative Assembly needs to get on it.
I think one with the whole region of East Asia would be awsome like Korea, Vietnam, Japan, China, Taiwan Mongolia
As a Total War TH-camr, I miss Shogun 2. I really do.
Oh gamerdudester surprised noones noticed you yet, i love your videos :D
GamerDudester Your content's awesome. Don't stop what you're doing! :-)
GamerDudester Hi man your videos are amazing ^_^
GamerDudester then play it :)
he anticipated greatness after this game.
then rome 2 happened.
Still sat here trying to get my moneysworth out of Rome 2, having it crash and then loading Shogun 2 back up. The cycle of life continues.
:D
No, he said he was worried about the future of CA's actual "creative assembly"and he was right the new total war has no good innovation and ugh. . don't get anyone started on this.
All i gotta say is Sega,
Is Rome 2 emperor edition better than Shogun 2? It's on sale in steam so was wondering if I should get it
Rome 1, Medieval 2, Shogun 2 and Warhammer are the best. My only problem with Warhammer is that battles are way too short.
For War hammer it depends on what faction you are facing eg vampire counts and green skins which have the lowest base morale.
i heard there are mods to fix in workshop
+happy duckyyy for seige
My problem with TW Warhammer is when I first started a siege battle against the dwarves I.was expecting this awesome imposing fortress crafted by the best dwarves, and well...uh...I ended up pouring bleach all over.my computer and then drinking it. Siege battles are so fun and how the new "battles," if they can even be called that, have utterly shat on them. *sigh* they pissed me.off with warhammer so much it's just not a TW game imo. No formations, no good sieges, and no naval battles. Oh and for.some reason neither my dwarven or orcish campaigns were able to get past turn 100 not sure if it's a bug but it was my last straw.
LOVE Rome 1
"can't wait to see what Total War has for us next"... Lol
"My only gripe is... no capture the points." The answered him in Rome II, in the must infuriating way possible.
Thank you Joe, for giving me yet another introduction to a great series. Thanks to you, I got into XCOM, and Total War! :D
I love how Joe wears the armor throughout the review. It really shows how much he likes the game.
Joe suggests more RPG Elements for next game, Rome II comes with stripped Immersion and a pointless Politics system... *Sigh* CA just doesn't listen.
Imagine, Mount and Blade: Shogun
TheMinecraftDragon97 There is a very good mod for Mount and Blade that recreates the Sengoku Jidai Japan
Gekokujo mod
TheMinecraftDragon97 there is a mod for mount and blade warband set in Japan called Gekokujo.
+TheMinecraftDragon97 I would play it to death
Nadhif Bhagawanta There is a gekokujo mod, go check it out, you would love it!
Anyone know where Joe gets those prop swords? They look really good
I'm somewhat concerned that Joe's suggestions at the end of this video were the launching points for the Rome 2 Abortion. They had a good thing going... If it's not broken, dont' fix it.'
***** 2 games a year? Maybe 1 every 1-2 year(s).
***** Other games release DLC as-well. That means 6 Payday games are released each year.
11:05 i only watched this after watching your rome 2 review. too bad. you are right though, the options are limitless. As long as they stick with swords and spears. I do not think they should do WWII total war. Some disagree with me on this.
I'd say after Attila, CA should go for Empire 2.
*****
or midieval 3, that would rock
***** Its still too soon for Empire 2, I'm guessing either something new or most likely medieval 3.
You are right WW2 total war doesn't make sense.
Alex Coulthard china dynasty should be next
It would have been cool if they got the interns to do the peasant soldier animations, and the professionals for the samurai. Then we could see a difference between the two.
***** That is quite a good idea:D I would rather have it in medieval 2 though:P
Well, in that period the ashigaru were often times professional soldiers, sometimes even better in single combat than samurai. Some of them even had better Armour than lesser Samurai.
Ashigaru werent shit soldiers
Shogun 2 could have done with some actual peasant levies
thank you for your review. I played the older version of total war and this is light years away!!. I started playing total war 2. I was quite versed in the older version. Very impressed with the graphics of the present game . I am disappointed though that no matter how low the difficulty level I am unable to make any progress. I am always stuck with poor economy, hunger and no allies no matter how hard and early I try. Never make a harbor quick enough to secure a trading rout. Its like I am playing at the most difficult level , yet I am at "normal". Can you suggest what I am doing wrong??
I've been watching this show for years. How have I never seen this review? 🤣
Total War: Shogun 2 is still the best total war game in my opinion
i agree
i especially love you can take part in 3 timelines from early to pre-modern era japan :)
they did very good work at it
Xevan yeah. and i love how the units plays out. they don't look fake and they don't pushed against each other and ending up in a moshpit, and l like how the campaign and battle map plays out, rome 2, attila and warhammer looks so off.
.....you really like that shit when they don't have fighting animations do you.....?
Βασίλης Τσαβαλιάς IT''S A MOD TO MEDIEVAL 2 TOTAL WAR AND THEY HAVE THE SAME FIGHTING ANIMATIONS THAT LOOK SHIT AS FUCK
Victor Johnson you know what looks shit as fuck? tgis japanese bullshit with 0 storyline/retarded storyline degenerate campaing and china shit
After i watched this i've installed it, still rocks after nearly 4 years! :D
I have watched this about four times in the last six hours, I have no plans to stop watching this. Honestly, the Geisha moment might be my favorite thing on youtube, I genuinely laughed at that.
This is one of my favorite games of all time. I have played thousands of hours of it and I have never been bored once. Each time I am able to strategically play the game with enough distinction that even if I played the Takeda a hundred times I would be satisfied that I hadn't played the game the same way twice.
What was that clip from?
Cant wait to see what total war has next!
-Joe last words before dieyng of heart attack while playing rome 2
Two years later, Rome 2 came out, and Angry Joe was pissed.
You could attack his hair with a pickax and NOTHING WOULD MOVE.
What movie was that at the beginning? At first I thought it was the Battle of Nagashino where the Takeda Cavalry was wiped out by Oda muskets, but then it looked like the main character was Masamune Date. I is teh confus.
Does anyone know what movie those clips were from towards the beginning? It looks right up my alley, I'd love to watch it. Maybe Hulu has it!
Try checking movies done by Akira Kurosawa like "Heaven and Earth" or "Kagemusha". Although all the works by Akira Kurosawa on samurai are really good especially the Seven Samurai....and don't forget the tv series Fuurin Kazan.
MrArthoz I have never heard of any of them but will check them all out. Thanks a bunch! :)
MrArthoz from my research I think the movie was "RAN" by Akira as you said. Oooooh boy I'm gonna be spoiled rotten tonight, I can already tell! :D
Darth Malak it was yes
Johnny Fairfax-Lucy ty
Shogun 2 is still my third favorite behind Rome 1 and Medieval 2... an EXTREMELY close third. Gameplay-wise it is by far the best and most polished.. I'm just a bigger fan of the Roman and Medieval time periods so that's my own bias. However, Shogun 2 is an absolutely gorgeous and well-made game that I could tell was made with passion by the developers, especially Fall of the Samurai. FOS was essentially Creative Assembly saying "yeah, about Empire... that was our bad."
For me first place is three kingdoms and shogun 2 at 2nd place
what was ever wrong with empire total war? there wernt any bugs in the 30 hours i played.
AI mostly
Because it has been patched after years?
Mostly bad AI, poor scripting, numerous glitches in the map/terrain, not to mention the campaign AI was EXTREMELY forgiving, much like Dawn of War Soulstorm, you have it on any difficulty and the AI just does nothing...
***** It's because the warscape engine is terrible and doesn't compliment melee combat, even here in Shogun 2. I don't like this 1v1 scripted bullshit, it rustles my jimmies badly.
What's worse is Rome II doesn't care about fixing bugs, just DLC whoring.
Lot's of things were wrong but IMO the thing which did not get enough attention were the siege battles. Empire and Napoleon's siege battles are the worst in the series and a complete joke. In previous games a fort could allow a much smaller army survive an attack by a much larger one and at the very least force you to play differently and think carefully and forts in different parts of the world were different maps entirely and also depended on how the settlement was upgraded . In Napoleon and Empire it's just two forts, the Star forts from Renaissance Italy, just fantastic. Yes the ME factions had different forts but they were still the same thing just different skins. The main issue though was on the one hand every fort was the same, it didn't matter if you were attacking Paris or Innsbruck the forts were the same, no city streets, no buildings, just the same walls surrounding a couple of military houses. On top of this forts gave little advantage to the defender, every infantry unit can climb up the walls without needing a ladder because they had grappling hooks, so there goes the strategy behind siege towers and ladders and hello to having to defend every single spot on the fort removing any advantage it could've had. The fort walls provide cannons for infantry on them, but they can't shift left and right so all the attacker has to do is attack the corner. On top of this once the enemy has taken the walls it was over because there was nothing inside the fort, in Medieval 2 that could very well have only been the first step and then even more intense fighting awaited the enemy inside. On top of this attacking a settlement was very dumbed down to the point that there was no longer any difference between attacking a settlement and attacking out in the open unless the player or the AI invested the money into building a fort, which they rarely did, for the AI because it doesn't like to invest the money in that and the player because most players hated playing siege battles.
It sucked because what really would've made the game better would've been unique maps to settlements so that attacking Constantinople had a realistic map which well mirrored the real Constantinople, a city surrounded by water and with thick levels of walls surrounding it. A map like that would require naval and land units so Medieval 2 couldn't do it. The forts in Empire/Napoleon would've been great and made alot of sense if they were some frontier fort like at the border or in the America's, but it doesn't make any sense for anything else, not even for a tiny city. Empire/Napoleon could've at least created a unique siege battle for Vienna, Berlin, Paris, Moscow and London. But instead attacking one of them was the same as attacking the other, the factions were different but there was no unique units that came to play, the King himself wouldn't be on the battlefield to protect his capital (ok Moscow was the not the capital of Russia at the time).
The worst part is is that they were rare, so the game knows how much they suck and avoids siege battles as much as possible meaning even CA knew how much they sucked.
I'm having trouble playing it. it crashes whenever I try to start a game or tutorial. I've had this game for over a year. I really want to play it, but it keeps crashing once I go to play a campaign. any ideas?
I started with Medieval 2 , played some Rome, Napoleon is really AWESOME and Empire, but Rome 2...I'm thinking about buying Shogun 2 instead, I have limited budget, so, does any1 still play Shogun 2 ?
If you act quick, Shogun 2 is in this weeks Humble Bundle for $15 with a load of other games ends in 3 hours
I must first collect the money, I don't live in a rich country and by summer I will have some budget, now I couldn't afford even that.
I couldn't find any players in this game , only 3-4 room in host .. but can find some one make room chat so may be ask them to play ..hah
The little Videos are what makes the Total War games fun. I disliked it when they are removed them. I loved watching the outcome of each.
On Shogun 2 I generally play with one large army and my settlement defended with a garrison for my buildings to save money, then use ninjas and geisha to halt armies, on rise of the samurai this is easier due to junatsuchi being able to ask for the allegiance of enemy provinces if they support your clan, this can be done by simply having your junatsuchi in their territory.
What movie is that scene at the beginning from?
@Oversama the title of the movie is "Ran" by Akira Kurosawa.
This is the only Total War game that makes me totally submerged into the world. I played like 200+ hours on Rome 2 and Attila, but 1500+ hours on Shogun 2.
Holy shit, Joe was so trim here.
What were promised in the trailer and the "magical flags" we got now are 2 completely different thing:
In that Cartharge seige trailer for R2, they promised us a capture points system so each capture means something (bonuses, morale boosts, etc. which were already in custom battles in S2), and all we got a random magical flags out of nowhere thing instead.
R2TW is unfinished game and we are paid 60$ to beta-test.
Will it run well enough on my MacBook, i know they released a mac version and that my specs do meet the min req.
Processor 2.26 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
Memory 4 GB 1067 MHz DDR3
I'm still playing this, this game was and still is excellent.
What is that movie angry joe uses?! So epic...
+Brady Stevens Ran
HankRutherford Hill thks
8:18 "I can't imagine what a battle like this would be LIFE in real life".
Who's this angryjoe guy? Good review, i've never played but i accidentally bought the entire total war collection on sale hahah
trying this game now, great review!
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Reasons why Angry Joe is my favorite reviewer 1: His reviews are honest and trustworthy 2: He doesn't have to kiss anyone's ass and have to give dishonest reviews 3: his reviews are funny and extremely interesting 4: You can tell the amount of time and effort he puts into reviews because they are fun to watch.
DarthMod solves all problems. It made Empire awesome!
yeah it made empire playable, but turned shogun 2 into a Fucking Masterpiece
link please to the one you use
What is the name of the movie in the intro??
You should do a review of Rise of the Samurai, and Fall of the Samurai.
Okay so, i've only played this Total War and I thought it did a really good job (with the exception of the diplomacy AI and... well the AI in general at times). Why exactly do other people think this game sucks in comparison to games like Rome 1 Total War or Medieval II: Total War, what do they offer and do well that this game doesn't?
Mostly complaints that it offers less unit and faction variety. I guess also the more streamlined family tree, although you get so few generals that it makes them more valuable. Then there are the fringe contingent who says that Total War should always stay European because....I don't know.
Because they all try hard to be retrospective hippie poser. Ooooh nothing beats the original mannnn. Pfft.
Xander Magne
Why would that be? The very first Total War game was Shogun: Total War.
Because a lot of people consider Rome 1 or Medieval 1/2 as the apex of the series, also, because the majority of Total War has been set in European theaters or had a big focus on them (Empire and Nappy).
I actually went back and played a domination campaign on legendary mode in Shogun II due to how bad Rome II sucked.
Let's see if CA can fix that mess, since the idea and direction isn't bad (except for that damn flag), but the game is just too buggy and the ai too stupid.
I went playing rome 1
boyke bojke Rome 1 is awesome!!!!
D3ATHBYVENOMZ Medieval 2 (or even 1 ) for me!
yep, another 50+ hrs on shogun2 because ROME2 GAMING EXPERIENCE SUCKKKK SO HARD
why on just shogun 2? I'm playing medieval 2 with some mods I never used like Third Earth or whatever its called. Not half bad!
Indeed, the game is great. I started out with getting the game on sale with all DLC (best choice I ever made, great game for a great price), and as I played and even modded the game, I fell in love with it, and now I have the Fall of the Samurai DLC and the DLC for said DLC (Yes, it is one of those weird things where a DLC has its own DLC) and I am about to see if the DLC is just as great as the main game and the Rise of the Samurai DLC.
Looks Like Total Lag II to me. Wanting to play but wondering how my i5 4210u 2.4 ghz will fare on this. I have gtx 850m but I hear game is pretty demanding on CPU ?
Would anyone else recommend the Blood Pack DLC?
nah it sucks
TheUnholyHandGrenade if you're dedicated to the game and want to support the developers, sure. I got it.
Am I the only one who loved Empire: Total War?
it's one of my top 3 favorite Total war games. I honestly would give it a 8.4/10 (if I was a game reviewer)
It's really good in my opinion
+Alfred Ashford I liked it too. I guess the release version was a mess, but when I got it... I liked it. Only thing I would complain is the artillery not being able to hit anything.
+Alfred Ashford I got like 200+ hours in that game on steam.
No I love that game and it's the one that introduced me to the series
Everywhere I go there is no hard copy available which is a big disappointment. It would be cool to control each individual and be more fused with open world/rpg/mature/online as well as be able to choose ninja. I might buy the game today to try it out after I complete my research. Do they have regular updates to clear any bugs? Is Fall and Rise different versions or something? Expansion pack (buy/install shogun 2 and than have to buy/install Rise as an extension)? I called Best Buy and other stores and I cannot seem to get a good answer.
I got the Gold edition (which you can still get on Gamestop.com) where you download it once and i get Fall and Rise without downloading separately, and yes, Rise is before normal so there are different units along with some different clans, and Fall is when there are 2 factions (Shogunate vs Empire) where you can choose clans inside of them, Shogunate is more of a sword and bow type that are great in close combat, and Empire implements guns and cannons. No there are no longer any updates because the series has moved on to Rome 2, but right after you download it, you will have to update it, for they sent them out while this was the newest, and I have never seen any bugs because they were practically all removed with the old updates. Hope this helps!
id say get steam its one of the best was to get games on your PC
I have a hard copy from target, but either way, you still need to get steam to play it on your PC.
Best Buy doesn't have a hard copy. At least not at the few I went to.
Nobody else catch the "Crossing the Rubicon 8-bit" at the beginning? I geeked over that, thanks haha
I miss that old menu...
I don't because I still play it :D
Ahh... Back in the day where Joe wasn't fat
Just out of curiosity, how good is Total war Attila? Is it a step up from Rome 2 or a step down? I never played it and reviews weren't really... reviews, so I need community opinions :)
I bought Empire Total War on steam recently and I'm really enjoying it. A huge patch was released in 2012 I think that fixed a lot of the games bugs.
Also, if you do get the game now. Download the darthmod as it improves a lot on the games features.
"allies" and backstabbing or just having your allies watch as you get slaughtered, may not actually be a lack in the ai but rather a realistic way of showing that you can't trust any other clan really. e.g. i had conquered 3 or 4 enemy factions together with the uesugi and shortly after they stabbed me in the back where it hurt most. so generally the best tactic is to betray your allies before they can do the same to you :)
Thats sure always the best tactic! (y)
Michelle Bucher smartass
Or maybe it's just bad ai.
You probably activated Realm Divide which means diplomacy is impossible. All the clans are now against you and in favor of the Shogun for the sake of status quo. Your allies won't turn against you, not right away but if pay attention to their relation status with you, you will notice it going down fast to Hostile. You will also notice your ally or allies dragging their feet more and being less willing to help you. Basically, think of it this way: everyone wants to be Shogun and that means they won't help someone else get it.
Pretends to speak Japanese - sounds Chinese.
Ahhh Americans.
How do you remove the fog when you are on the battlefield?
How come my game doesn't show the little videos in the campaign map?
Medieval 3 skrubs.
I want fall of the samurai so bad, but is it better than my precious shogun 2? Angry Joe pls review FOTS
its basically the beginning of this video where its regular/semimodern samurai armies vs modern armies
Steam sale ends tomorrow! 4.97
I bought it :D
LOVE IT !!!!
mooppy himura I need someone to play co op long campaign with if you interested let me know
Yah but on one condition. I get choshu or tosa
Joe! you said you were worried about what to come next, seems like you're spot on!
I haven't played shogun 2 yet, although I do remember in medieval that if you wanted to ask someone to attack someone else, you sent a diplomat to them and used 'Attack faction'. just a thought on what Joe said in the video.
In Shogun 2, diplomats are gone. All diplomacy is done through a "diplomacy" screen. And that option is also avaliable. ;D
thanks, :)
Star wars total war
Yes. Hell yes.
Joshua Phillips no hell no
Fuck no
:c....just saying u.u
lol, ok, my bad guys sorry!! XD
"Hundreds of thousands of soldiers" lol the most i've had is 15k, and thats heavily modded
Your own problem lol
Cyanid Indeed
AngryJoe is by far my favorite reviewer. That and his good reviews can't be bought.
I've loved the "Yo-hoho-yo-ho" track ever since the first game. It always gets me pumped before battles.
is it me or Joe's Samurai Voices Sound Like Chinese
just bought shogun 2
you wont be disappointing, its challenging and plays and (in my opinion) looks even better than Rome 2. great game.
i remember when this vid was stuck at around 900k, finally reached 1m
Where is that clip from that Joe used from 0:38-1:11? I've been trying to find it for ages. xD
The movie is called 'Ran'
Sligo K9 Thank you! :)
I will wait for CA to remake this masterpiece , even if i have to wait for 20 years .
Hey guys I have a question, I like games like Rome Total War (the first one) and Civilization 5. So my question is.... would I like this game? Just based on other games I like?
You will *love* Total War: Shogun 2. I was never a total war fan myself, but Shogun 2 completely changed that. Worth every penny like Angry Joe says.
It is the best Total War game untill now. It is awesome. I spend 700 hours in that game and I don't regret it a single bit.
Honestly get Rome 1 and it's expansion Barbarian Invasion, MEdieval 2 and Kingdoms, and Shogun 2 and the dlc if you want. These games are probably the best in the series.
Merland5 Napoleon is actually also a very well made, rounded game - it takes what was good about Empire but without all the issues - it's a really fun, strategic period of history to play in and you find yourself using actual Napoleonic tactics to achieve your goals - True it isn't a groundbreaking game like the original Rome but it's very polished and I would highly recommend it.
I did
Is Attila worth playing? How good is it compared to shogun and Rome 2?
+Iam Cleaver Idk about Attila but shogun 2 is far better than rome 2,
GRAPHICS: I don't have a really good gaming rig but i can still play shogun 2 on ultra with at least 4000 units on each side, all while above 30 fps
rome 2 if i put it on ultra i get 23 fps and it won't even look that good. only thing about rome 2 that i like is that on med to low the game can have massive armies attack each other and the animations won't lag to all hell
Love the review. Especially how they incorporated the film "RAN" on it. love that film.
Am I the only one who thinks Medieval 2 is the best totalwar game up to now? It IS followed by shogun 2 in my eyes but i like medieval 2 more, i know it sounds odd but i like medieval 2's graphics more, it's like CS:S or CS 1.6 vs CS:GO to me, a lot of people like both but most agree that old is gold :D
+Batuhan dağlı Yeah i absolutely love MTW2, especially with Stainless Steel. It is also the last one to be fully moddable : /
Medieval 2 and Rome 1 are the best, and then comes Shogun
Eh, personally not a fan of Medieval 2
Nathaniel White oh its ok, everyone has the thing they like I personally like Rome 1 and M2TW
Shogun 2 or Rome 2?? Keep in mind that Im new to the strategy genre
shogun get all the dlcs
Both are superb, I would go for Shogun 2 with all expansions ;)
Although, it really depends on which time period you prefer!
I own Rome: Total War and suggest you go for that. There are a lot of different combat tactics such as a Shield Wall and Phalanx, and you will never feel more badass than when you first order your Roman Cohorts with full units on max settings to form a Testuedo. I am currently addicted however so be warned. I currently own almost the whole franchise. At worse it is always something you can fall back on if you don't like it, as it is a unique time period.
I've played Total War for god knows how long, and while I'm not saying Rome is bad, Shogun 2 is just.. so amazing. My favorite, in my opinion. I could list tons of reasons but honestly its your choice. The vote in the comments here seems to be 3 Shogun, 2 Rome, so again it's your choice. Both are great though, I don't think you'll be disappointed either way :)
5 years ago and i still come back just for that intro ^^
I don't suppose anybody can tell me the intro 8-bit song he uses? It has elements of Metal.
They listened to you with Warhammer Total war! :)