Fitting FMA ARC Rail Adapters to MSA Sordin Supreme Pro X Headset Base Jump Helmet ZTactical
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- A tutorial showing how to fit FMA ARC Rail Adapters to a pair of MSA Sordin Supreme Pro-X to go onto a FMA BJ (Base Jump) helmet.
I’m not sure if the MSA Sordins are similar inside to the Z-Tactical replicas, please comment below if you’ve opened a pair up comment below. - กีฬา
Fantastic tutorial on doing this. At least they made them so they can actually be taken apart which is rare in modern electronics.
Very helpful.
I’d add
1. The circlip holes are small - 1mm. So you will need circlip pliers with correspondingly small tips. And yes the circlip pliers need to be good ones
2. The circlips are strong but brittle. If you break one, the replacements you’ll need are those sized for a 7mm shaft (the circlip is slightly smaller than 7mm)
3. Some adapter arms are strong spring steel and can’t be squashed with pliers as shown. However, if you heat just the end of the wire red hot with a small blowtorch (obviously not near the headset) it is then possible to bend it.
4. The torx screws are tiny - T9
Followed your tutorial to the letter and just got mine installed. It works perfectly. 7 years later!
This is the most detailed tutorial I've seen about headphones mounting. Thank you!
I recently opened up my Z Tac Sordins, only to discover that they look nothing like the MSA on the inside. I saw a comment about another Z Tac Sordins which looked the same as the MSA (Patrick Sannemann, further down in the comment section) but maybe there exists several different versions of the Z Tac Sordins. Like I said, mine however didn't look similiar to these demonstrated in this video.
So I put the earmuff-cover back and decided to go the wrong way and actually "cut" the original metal headband-arms in two and then just bend and squeeze them off, from the outside. A little tricky and you got to be a little rough to the headset but eventually they came off and I could just simply install the new arms of the ARC Rail adapters.
Well they're on now, so I don't think I'll be taking them off in the nearest future. Great instructional video, however.
Correction: the C-clips are there on the Z-Tac Sordins, just like these MSA's demonstrated in the video, but the electronics are a bit different, so I chose not to tinker around with it due to the fact that well for 1) they're quite cheap asian-made headset with uncertain quality to the solderings and such and 2) they have no warranty if anything should go wrong.
SO you COULD very well do the very same "correct" installation with the Z Tac Sordins, however be prepared that they are not as well suited for the installation as the MSA's.
I did it an alternative way, and it works.
How did you manage to bend the metal C holders? I couldn’t even do it with a plier
Thanks for the review on the Z-Tac Sordins. I just ordered a pair from Ali Express,only to find out, just after it was actually shipped out, that I wouldn't be able to attach it to my helmet... So, basically what you did was to apply some good old brute force to bend the original metal holders and then instal the the ARC adapter without having to open the muffs? Thanks once again!
This helped me a lot, I almost pulled out wires at random there were so few guides to this. Cheers!
Used this video to swap the plastic Liberator headband to the spring steel Peltor headband. Thanks a bunch.
Exactly the instruction I needed. Thanks a million mate! 👌🏻🇨🇦
Thanks for making this!
Crap! Now i need special plyers. Thanks 4 vid.
Do they have to be fully disassembled, or could it be done by just opening the loop a bit and hooking the adapters on instead?
ya from the looks of it, you could just do that. Im really glad you asked too because i completely over looked that.
Mine are Sordin Pro X's with the Sordin name on the sides instead of MSA.
The arms are quite hard to open up, I would suggest getting a pair of ring pliers which arent that exspensive from Lowes or Home Depot, and a cheap set of torx screw drivers.
Did same thing to the Liberator II. Thanks.
@AirsoftCamMan do you know what size circlet pillars you used and where you got them from, the Z Tactical ones have really small holes to get the pillars into?. Cheers mate. The MSA and Z Tactical’s look very similar but that Z ones have more wires inside.
great video man.
Cheers dude.
Why don't you just bend the metal hook rather than disassemble, risking destroying them?
i dont know if this is normal but i have the exact same adapters but the space between the helmet and the ear pro seems a bit big what results in the ear pro sitting way to low
Do you need to adjust the screw in the FMA Arc Rail Adapters for it to rotate/tilt?
How well do the adapters and Sordin headset fit on a full cut helmet? Anyone know or have tried?
Thanks for help :D
Спасибо мужик 👍 то, что нужно🔥
is that possible to get the cable connecting both half? main is a bit worn out....
What size C clip pliers did you use?
Thanks for uploading this, planning on setting this up with my set of Sordins on my FMA Maritime helmet this weekend.
Could you possibly link your radio and your setup, I'm looking to use the same setup or similar to yours on my Sordin Supreme Pro X's, as mine doesn't have the boom mic either.
Liked and Subbed :)
Thanks for watching and glad it helped. The radio I use is a Kenwood TK3301 with a Kenwood KMC-45609 mic. I then got a 3.5mm to 2.5mm adapter from eBay allow the cabble to plug into the Kenwood mic.
The Radio and Mic are cheap, but are waterproof and extremely durable, and the Lithium-ion battery will last up to 2 days on a charge.
KingSix did you manage to find a way to hook up your radio to your sordins as I have the same set
@@conorwalker4412 Yeah I use a Baofeng UV-5R, into an retevis ptt. The PTT has a 3.5mm jack which you run into the 3.5mm on the headset. Be advised, it's only a mono signal, so you'll only hear radio transmissions into the earcup you're plugging into. Hope that helps bud.
@@K1ngSix thank you so much for that mate ive been searching for the longest time trying different things to no success. proper happy now weekend game will be fun
@@conorwalker4412 no problem mate, have fun!
may i ask what kind of tool is that? when you remove last part of metal piece? whatever your video is great for me :)
Good Video - please could you specify the brand and Size of the Cir-clip Pliers you are using as need to get some, thanks
I used these but not sure if you're in the UK? www.halfords.com/workshop-tools/tools/hand-tools/halfords-internal-external-circlip-pliers
+Airsoft CamMan Yeah i am in Uk - thanks for the link -Just getting my first helmet at Christmas (already run real Sordins) - recognised the AI500 2015 Patch some issues there this year from what i read on facebook. Have some of these Arc Rail Adaptors coming from HK - Can these FMA'S hinge and Stay back off your ears ? Was looking at the Iron Forged Concepts SARA's too ? ?
+Carlo Tai Yes, this years Ai500 was a fiasco to say the least. Shame, because it had real potential.
These FMA ones do hinge 360 degrees, only limited by the wiring. So can be placed out of the way above the helmet if needed.
does anyone else have the issue of the headphones sitting too low? Im having this issue. I cant get the sordins to completely surround my ears
how would you rate that hearing protection and besides comtac n those are their other type I can try this with
Sordins make some of the best hearing pro.
What is the number of circlips ?
pushing the C clips on is a bitch even with that tool. my gma arc rail adapters won't allow this cuz the gap now that I've closed the u shaped hinges is to thick to push those all the way on.
So they do in fact work with an external PTT and mic set-up and you can receive incoming transmissions through the head set? I know it says in the video but just for clarification. Great video by the way =) also with the kenwood radio you're using. its a 2 pin connection. I assume the cables and ptt and other bits are easy to find. I'd be very grateful for your help ;)
Yes, in a way. The headset has a 3.5mm plug, so you can input any external sound into them you like. I use an external Kenwood Mic with PTT (yes it's 2 pin) and the PTT Mic has a 2.5mm out on it. So I just purchased a cable with 2.5mm male one end and 3.5mm the other from ebay and that provides transmission sound from the radio to the headset. Hope this helps.
Sorry, should have said the headset has a 3.5mm socket (not plug)
+Airsoft CamMan thanks mate. much obliged 😉
fyi, msa's are identical from the inside with z tactical (source: i own a pair)
+Patrik Sannemann Many thanks Patrik
to specify the clips are, a bit more electronics but the disassembly function is same, btw do you have any issue with the adapter getting off too easily?, mine bounce off randomly
+Patrik Sannemann If I'd left them standard there may have been issue, but because I bent them to shape they seem ok.
Airsoft CamMan sorry i meant the adapters hopping off my arc rails. but in the end this is a good buy, holds my set firmly against my ears with only minor leak
+Patrik Sannemann At present they are a good fit, but over time I can see they may come loose.
Can I know the name for tools( red one )please thanks
+Poming Chan circlip pliers
this vid is outdated. you can just clip/slide the clips on now instead of opening it up.
Rob _ could you please explain? Just got a pair and that sounds much easierb
you never have to open the headset up
Rob _ but what do u do lol
in your box with the adapters your follow the instructions. They are actually very good. Doing what camMan does now can actually break your headset.
Thanks man!
I'm not judging one bit, and excuse me, because I am an active duty soldier with no airsoft experience. But, what is the need for a headset rated for actual gunshots and explosions in an airsoft game?
Good quality radio comms
@@LSFD7 good point, but I run Earmor M32s and they work fantastic for actual combat and comms, and they are a fraction of the price of comtacs or amps.
@@MsSteven120 Well the reason why I'm looking into Sordin/Peltor is because I have been running Earmor M32 (helmet version) and I'm already at two dead headsets within one year of practice, and I take care of my stuff. I don't know what is wrong with me and my M32s but if it keeps going, soon it will be more expensive for me to keep renewing the M32s than investing in some real deal.
@@LSFD7 Good point, I would get a set of comtac VIs but they are stupid expensive
I'm out (so I'm not going to Ukraine thankfully) and don't do airsoft. However, a coming collapse is heading our way. IF it gets bad instead of having gear I collected and never will use again I am interested in Mounting my OG MSA's to my rails. I figure an extra already setup gear ready to go if the shooting starts. I usually use Bowman style and only figure the helmet config is a better option because IF things get bad I will run NOD's too for a PVS 7 or 14. I rather have a sturdy helmet to mount this. IF NOTHING happens then the setup will be for Nature night walks and amplification of the MSA to listen to nature sounds. BTW since the MSA integrates with a radio it's matched to a U90 PTT to a K1 which runs into my radio. Areas are remote so I always take a radio as cell service is sporadic. I'm a Extra Class so can run radio repeater comms legally along with simplex in the event a med emergency comes along. With that said I'd rather buy a less priced $50 rail set for Larpers than a $250 original NSN version Uncle Sucker pays. unless there is a huge issue with the quality, So this is a reason why some others are here, looking at Alts for better pricing and setups for our gear.
The circlips are absolute dogshit on the sordins, I actually found it easier to get them out with a flathead although I needed circlip pliers to put em back on
O vídeo ensina bem, mas não vale a pena aventurar. Antes comprar o ideal.
to be fair it's kind of stupid what you did there, it's enough to only use pliers to untie mount and replace for helmet adapters. This way you can swap mounts either you want to use helmet or not.
Can you tell me how to untie the C metal mount with pliers? I tried doing it, didn’t work, Its too thick.
@@briawansembilantujuh It was quite hard indeed, took me some effort. I simply catched the end of this metal "C" at the end and slowly straightened this thin metal rod until it was straightened enough to push the headphone out of it. If you want I can share photos of that just give me e-mail
Or I simply make of video of how does they look now and upload it so you could see.
I've opened up a pair of zrac sordins. Never again. will I do it. and those fma arc rail adapters for zsordin suck. they are u shaped on the hinge which means the headsets comes unhooked all the fucking time. if u want ur headset mounted like this either spend tons of money getting the sara arc adapters for ur sordins or simply buy comtac 2s cuz there arc rails simply clip on to the hinges of the headsets. or just rake the padding out of ur helmet and run it with the headsets still attached ur sordins or comtacs, that way if ur outside u can have the option of just wearing ur headset without a helemt.
They are not that similar tbh
That is too much hard work. Why don't you just buy the MSA Sordin Supreme Pro X with green cups - Neckband. It fits perfectly under the helmet
I'll give you a big tip brother quit chewing while you're recording with no background music it f****** sound like s***