Delboy's Garage, Priming an Empty Hydraulic System !
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this entire video is actually the most important part that every other video forgets to mention about bleeding brakes
You’re a life saver. I’ve done a lot of bleeding, not so much priming. I guess I’ve always just been a bit lucky up until this new build. You’re the man 🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻
Can I just add my little extra tip.
Don't rush.
I mean, after you've bled, and are sure there are no micro-bubbles, go out on the bike if you have to, but take it steady.
Then 24 hours or more later (if you have a remote reservoir) remove the reservoir cap, carefully squeeze the rubber connecting tube, or agitate the lever careful not to spill any fluid if it's an integral reservoir, and I can almost guarantee you will see a nice little bubble rise from the hole at the bottom.
Let physics bring any remaining air to the highest point of the system (master cylinder).
I changed my GSX-R 750K2 front brake master cylinder on Tuesday, it had a firm lever, and on Wednesday ran some more fluid through to be sure the calipers were bled after settling, then today (Friday morning), I popped the reservoir top off, and squeezed the pipe, and there it was, the final bubble.
I just hate to admit it... but yes ,,even as I am over 60 and been riding since I was 13 years old ,I have been that man bleeding brakes all day ,,lol now I know ,,thanks a mill Delboy,,never to late to learn.
I just bought the biggest syringe I could find, a piece of 6mm fuel hose and just applied vacuum to the last bleed valve on the system :) worked like a charm, just remember to top off the fluid to not to suck air from the other side ;)
Good tips
I worked for many years in a pneudraulic workshop on military aircraft components. Some of the first rules I was taught are that air always wants to up the way…sometimes tapping with a soft faced hammer can help dislodge air bubbles and sometimes you need to take the component off so you can prime it properly by hand. Messy business but works.
Failing all that plumb it into a system than delivers flow of 100ltrs per minute at 4000 psi…that’ll sort out any air bubbles 😛
However I do like a syringe from the bottom on my bikes as air likes to go up the way 👍
Got a subscriber now
Awesome! Here we go 👌
What a useful guide, thank you.
Just about to fit new stainless lines, after a calliper rebuild on my old Kawasaki Gt 550.
This video has probably saved me a lot of head scratching during the bleed process. 👍
Most welcome buddy. Glad it helped.
I have been there. Bleeding brakes over several days. I wish I'd had this knowledge then. Better luck next time. Cheers mate. Regards to you both.
Thanks for posting this one. I just had to redo front brakes on an old Virago from sitting. Took some time working on it and with your good video (not rushing through it), was able to tackle the entire rebuild, prime and bleeding to get them back in shape. Thanks very much
Thank you, your channel is really a gold mine for this beginner.
You're very welcome!
Just used this method to prime the dry front lines on my brake upgrade and it worked a treat! Many thanks for all the great tutorials 👍🏻
Most welcome buddy, it's a little car mechanic's trick I picked up from my Dad!
Excellent vid, thanks for that. Plenty of good information, good safety stuff.
Hi Del and Penny.
Love the educational videos as much as the build videos. Keep them coming!👍
Have a great weekend 😀
Good evening Harold, Thank you for your kind support as ever my friend, have a great weekend too.. D&Pxx
Nice and easy tip, thanks for the info about dot 4 and 5, I wasn't aware of the potential problems. Have a great weekend and see you next week.
Thanks Andy, it's a very important issue not to mix silicone brake fluid with anything else, I'll cover a few more tips about in following videos... it's also not good for ABD systems either as it tends to foam in the module on some bikes.
Just got my calipers rebuilt. Picking them up tomorrow. Pistons pushed back in, so this video is perfect! Thanks
Awesome video. As usual, you passed on another trick of the trade!
I am about to rebuild both front and rear calipers on my "new" k2 gsx14 I got from my cousin!
Rear brake isn't too bad, but the front end is a mess. Brakes are grabbing too much, so dangerous. I have cleaned them, but I suspect it is even worst.
I did not make a perfect job of cleaning them, they were so dirty. 4 hours scrubing that black stuff, not all of it came out. with new pads pistons went in. Even if 5 piston work great and one is block, that is enough. And that is waht happened to me, so I decided to make a rebuilt.
Thanks for sharing Del
Your videos are so clean and professional that you are giving your community and the world a gift. I do almost all services on my bikes but if i lived in Usa and closer to your shop, i would be glad to make you my mechanic of choice because your work and your teaching must be valued!
Wow, thank you so much for your kind words of support. Im not in the USA though, we're located in England, so maybe closer than you think.. Thank you again and have a great weekend.
@@Moonfleet41 Closer to Portugal but still far! 😀
I'm a frequent watcher of your videos and love the work you do.
I was recently replacing brake fluid and accidentally left the bleeder screw open and sucked air into the master cylinder. As hard as I tried, I couldn't get any pressure at the lever; I watched this video, disconnected the line and let it gravity bleed. I had to re-bleed the caliper, but with line pressure it was done in short order.
Thank you for all the information and entertainment you provide.
Most welcome Sir, glad it worked for you, there's no denying that brake hydraulics can be a real challenge!
Doing a complete rebuild of the calipers with new lines; this information saves me time and frustration. Thank you.
I just used your video to prime my new brake system on a restoration project! Worked perfectly well!!! Thank you so much.
Most welcome mate, enjoy the project!
Worked a treat today on my ZXR750 H1 clutch. Really great instruction
Nice how to video Del. This one will help a lot of people for years to come. Penny and you have a relaxing weekend and stay warm over there mate. Cheers
Thanks mate, you too, have a wonderful weekend, and thank you as ever for your support, ride safe, D&Px
Thanks Del. Very useful tip!
You sir are a life saver. Liked and subscribed.
Thanks for the sub mate, welcome aboard!
Perfect timing. Just purchased new hoses for my tiger to remove the up and over pipes on the front. There is always a Delboy video when you need one!!! Cheers Del.
Thanks mate, good to hear from you, good luck with the job, hope it goes well, and have a great weekend mate!
Man u hv so much patience.I gave my mechanic a brand new master cylinder with the brake hose, the guy opened the master cylinder and damaged one rubber ring then he removed the old one from the old assembly and put it on the new piston in the master cylinder still not working properly even when the lever reaches the end the wheel barely stops.
You are a born teacher with excellent communication habits. But your real brilliance is here: You speak to just one person--me--instead of "hello all you guys out there." This is a profound difference. It's as if you are in my shop, chatting with me, instead of standing on a stage and performing. The result? Your information is better received. I feel a connection with you. I will subscribe. There are ten billion YT people who do not understand this simple concept. You are the best YT presenter I have ever come across. Stand tall. And thanks for the help with my pirated Yamaha caliper on my cycle kart.
Nice one Del, your videos are brilliant in giving me the confidence to crack on with the maintenance of my bikes, cheers dude
No problem mate👍, thanks for your feedback.
This helped me a lot. I was just trying to bleed my front brake after I cleaned my caliper and replaced some o-rings and wasn’t getting anywhere and I found your video on priming the dry system and fixed me right up! Thanks for the video.
Most welcome buddy, glad it worked for you!
Thank you! Just what I needed, and you're the only place I have found it.
A lot of other videos: "Oh, this will be a waste of my time."
A Delboy video: "This guy knows what he's talking about, I'm sure the right information will be in here and easy to understand."
You're the man.
You are welcome, glad I could help!
Get a mytivac! Also ditch the 6 pots for a radial conversation 2 finger braking 👍
Thanks. Well done. This will help me as I just swapped master cylinder and caliper from parts bike to my running '78 xs750 Yamaha. Cheers!
Great video mate, thanks very much I learned something here before putting on new hoses.
Thanks so much, new master and dryish system and couldn't figure this out having little brake experience. Your video was super clear and was complete and braking strong in 10 minutes. Cheers!
You're most welcome, am glad it helped you!
Mate... you literally save my life... I have been struggling for the past few days to figure that out.... First video on youtube regarding this problem. Thanks a lot
Most welcome mate, glad I could help.. priming a dry line can be tricky, but once you get it, you'll be able to do it every time.
Bleeding good educational video Del👌🏻
Thanks for the video I bled the master cylinder and it worked like a charm.
Thank you Del this is going to help me a lot when i install my new break system on my Hayabusa 😁👍👍👍👍
Hi mate, top top, every day's a school day.. Never stop learning. I've rebuilt calipers and bled brakes changed hoses etc, but I'm no expert I've just learnt as I've gone along, and I like learning new skills and ideas.Cheers Del as always have a top weekend and ride safe, thanks mate.. 👍👍😎
Thanks mate, I feel exactly the same way, learn as much as I can from everything I take on, have a good weekend yourself!
Thank you for the tutorial bro !!! So logical and easy ... wasted my time watching others but still not having any results on my new master cylinder. Thanks a million ! Liked, shared, and subsribed done 👍👍👍
Your video just saved me from a lot of head scratching, again!!! Thanks 👍🏻
You're welcome!
Thanks for making this video, mate. It really helped me. I thought I'd let you and others know that it took about an hour of tiny brake lever action until no more bubbles were showing up. Then I just when to the callipers and started bleeding them, and presto I have working brakes!
You almost certainly saved me a trip to a mechanic or buying something new I didn't need, so thank you :-)
Most welcome mate.. glad the video could help you out.
Thank you, very clear explanation...
Brilliant an informative.....certainly saved me a Ton of money.....Thank you
LIFE SEVER...I DIDN'T KNOW HOW TO FIX THIS PROBLEM IN MY BIKE,, THANK'S
you one of the greatest people worked on bikes thanks much keep up the good work
Thank you Sarmad, im glad you like the videos..
Thanks so much . I couldn’t bleed my Bonniville brakes . Did what you said on one of your videos, let the fluid gravity feed down , then took of rear callipers and pushed the pistons all the way in , instantly had brakes 🤯 weeks of struggling and endless TH-cam videos. Thanks 💜🍻🙏
Most welcome mate. Glad it helped you out.!
Nice vid of tips for the DIYr. May have to make use of the tips when I decide to upgrade to braided lines.
Excellent video as all of yours are. Thanks for the tips makes perfect sense.
Much appreciated Mort. Thanks for watching!
excellent video brother, presented perfectly.. many thanks and 🍻 to your hard work 😎🤙
Thank you so much Michael. So nice of you to say.
Every day is a learning day. Cheers Del
Huge help, just set up my new front end and never don’t hydraulic anything before and you just solved all my problems 🤙🏻
Most welcome, glad it helped you Sir.
Thank you!! Trying to get my zzr 1100 ready for its mot .. my master cylinder was broke so I replaced it with another one and couldn't get it to bleed for love nor money. . Took that pipe off the caliper.. let it drain through, put it back on & she's mint 🤙
Good going mate, glad it worked for you!
Delboy,
You certainly showed this old "motorcycling brother" what a Plonker, brothers can be!
I am a Brit, who's been living in the USA for 30+ years and my common sense got diluted by pure time and geography. You straightened me out.
I've been hours trying to bleed the front disc after fitting a speed bleeder and a new caliper on my old Harley. I'd forgotten that gravity is not just a cool idea, but simply the 'kin law!
Thankyou Sir. It took less than 2 minutes; remove the banjo joint, draining the pipe, refit it and pumping the new stopping juice through the Speed Bleeder!
Speed Bleeder: 3/8" x 24 thread. Goodrich or Russell on Amazon. $15-ish a pair.
I had a cold one in your honor Del!
Thanyou.
Thanks mate, I appreciate the credit, simple task my ol' man taught me when working on cars, gravity bleeding works every time! Great to hear you're enjoying the good life and living the dream, whereabouts in the States are you brother?
@@Moonfleet41
Here's the story:
I retired from being a military contractor, (only child, no family) to never travelling anymore for work...(🙆♂️). Now renting a place in the sticks on a 2000 acre Brahma cattle farm, in East Texas, with pastures all around. Me, a old 190k mile V8 Dodge pickup, a Husky mix, a Belgian Malinois....AND A BIG GARAGE!!!
We have seasons here too! I was previously based in Ft. Lauderdale, South Florida, for geographical reasons. (A never ending sticky sauna, with too many Neeyoo Yawkers with; no off switch, no volume control, no filter and no manners). I had to behave and bit my lip for too long. Now I live around polite folk.
Many quiet deserted twisties here too, but at my age, (I started riding onroad in 1970), my 1000 ricers, crazies and Buells are behind me. A 2006 Rat Softail (Bitsa bike) with solid mechanicals, rather scruffy, and with very little chrome, is this lads steed. Two new Pirelli Night Dragons are being fitted this week.
I just rebuilt the cam chest and entire fuel system from a new tank, (new to me anyway, good used from Ebay), ALL tank interlals; pump, reg, filter, pipes, to efi unit over the past cooler months.
Never having fitted a completely new, dry, clean brake system before, your video info proved invaluable. Normal bleeding is easy, initial priming? Wotta bitch! Thanks.
Next ride? - likely to Monterrey, California to see an old military "brother" and wife.
Having subscribed, I'm sure I'll pick up many more usefull tips!
@@Dodger2879 Thank you for sharing the glorious story of your wonderful life.. i love the part about Neeyoo Yawkers... i think we have our version of those here too, pretty world side stereotype i guess..! Have a great ride to Monterrey and go safely out there brother..
holding my finger on the master cylinder while pumping just solved my issue THANKS!
OMG if only I'd have known this a while back when I fitted braided lines to my RF 900 , it tuck me two days to do and I was going to give up . I got some extra length on my hoses as I want to put riser's on soon ,but I was convinced the extra length had made it impossible to bleed. I even tuck off the calipers and let them hang so the hoses where in a straight line . Anyway I finally got them . Cheers pal . I was thinking of putting braided hoses on my gsxs 1000 but after what iv been reading here on ABS systems I might give it a miss 😁 . Great stuff
Mate can I firstly say this vid saved my insanity trying to prime a bone-dry system. I have a 1995 VN800 turned into a bobber and in the final stages of the recent rebuild which included new bars and controls all in black. The last job which was frustrating me was the front brake, it had only a new MC and braded hose but certainly the system was empty and your vid was exceptional in its delivery and explanation so bravo. As a tip from me using your method to quicken the process for an empty hose fill it using a large plastic syringe (minus the needle which you can get from a chemist/pharmacist) this removed most of the air and was easily done. Made the job a bit quicker. Again many thanks for this vid would be at the local mechanics shop by now.
Most welcome Anthony, im glad it helped you.
Would have never thought of that!
Nice one!
Great video, on my Honda there is a fitting on the caliper so that's the end of the system and I was able to bleed all the air.
brilliant, as i´m probably about to do this, and never thought about priming first.
Thaaaaaaank you sooooo much!
I've been on this B for 2 days now. 20 minutes after this video it's done 👍 you rock 👊
Glad it helped buddy, doesn't it feel good when it finally works!
Second time I’ve watched this one. Ironically my TH-cam home page algorithm seems to know when I’m about to do a job in the garage now. Rebuilt calipers last night (pistons aren’t necessarily perfect but nothing was leaking before) and new braided hoses arriving today. Master cylinder rebuild this weekend also. Wouldn’t have ever attempted this build without your help Del.
Hi buddy, great to hear from you, am really glad this can help you, it's great to hear you're getting stuck i and doing the jobs yourself... glad the videos help, and do let us know how you get on! Have a great weekend, stay well, D&Px
Proper old school mechanic, I use dot 5.1 fluid as I live in very hilly part of the country, lots of long downhill braking works for me,
Brilliant !, Just put new hoses on, wish i saw this before i pit them on !.
Will give this a go when my braided lines arrive. I thought the fluid would run out fast but clearly not. For this reason I guess there’s not much mess when reconnecting the hose.
Thanks so so much for this video. Cheers from Australia
Most welcome mate, hope things are getting back to normal for you down there in Oz, what a terrible time you've had.
Thanks mine need doing so that's a bit of motivation 👍
Excellent Thanks!
What a video!
Well explained, was scratching my head at other peoples videos and this has given me confidence to get out and bleed my freshly rebuilt calipers 👌
Thanks mate, glad it helped, good luck with yours!
@@Moonfleet41 No luck, dont seem to have any pressure at all as the pistons are compressed still, letting it sit for a bit and then im going to bleed it again and hope for the best.
@@jzawadzki2000 Time is never really a remedy to trapped air.. letting it sit for a bit won't make much difference. Try reverse purging it from the bleed valve upwards with a syringe.. literally forcing the fluid into the caliper and upwards.. that will work !
@Moonfleet41 rebled it and its nice and firm 👌
:-) brilliant tips as always Del
Great stuff Delboy, thank you..
Glad you enjoyed it mate!
@@Moonfleet41 it’s
Your videos a nightly fix for me! Learning! I’m Still not well but your video’s are carrying me through for when I’m fit enough to service my bike, thank you
@@PaulR387 Thank you so much for such kind support Paul, it's an honour that our videos are of use and that you enjoy them.. We hope you're fit and well soon, and of course, please drop us a line if we can be of any help.. D&Px
Brilliant video, saved me so much time!
You're welcome!
Thank you!! Thank you!! Thank you!! I needed this.
You are so welcome!
Very helpful video/tutorial. I do DIY work on my bike and car and I know how to bleed brakes - but I've struggled with a bleed on my Triumph Sprint with rebuilt calipers, master cylinder and braided lines. Very frustrating trying to pump fluid through a dry system - I've not tried it tbh, but I am revitalised and feel a little daft that I hadn't thought through what now seems 'obvious'
Glad to help buddy, hope you can sort it out!
Thank you sir.
Extremely helpful thank you
Glad it helped, you're welcome!
Thanks, now I have a better idea why my brakes are still mush after putting in new hoses. I did reverse fill them, but still nothing. I will try the gravity feed method and if that doesn't work, will take a better look at my pistons and their position.
I just wanted you to know, I was having big issues bleeding these calipers, I swapped them and the master cylinder from a Busa to a Triumph sprint 1050, talk about a pain in the arse to bleed. I watched your video and it worked, thank you so much, I watch all your videos, very entertaining, Mark!
Awesome Mark, it's great news it worked for you... and now you have a new skill you can pass on buddy! Have a great weekend.
Fairing kit mounting will be one useful video, basics how to mount🤔 now siting in my garage and don't know where to start
As always good tips!
Cheers from deep in the Mtns of New York, My Brother!!! Have successfully bled brakes all my life, on countless cars > until now. I mean WTF I just put new Powerstop drilled/slotted rotors on my Genesis just this past weekend and it all went superb. Working on a 1988 Suzuki Quad whos front brakes were bone dry. You just saved me a probable day. 🦾 Thank You
Most welcome Sir, thank you for your kind words of support, am glad we could help!
Best video yet on this subject,, Having probs bleeding quad brakes, think I started with the pistons half out. Try again tonight lol
Dry or not, occasionally I use a vacuum tool ( Mity Vac for example ) from the top. I made a small aluminum plate to cover the master cylinder which has a bleed nipple on top, two mounting screw holes in my case, and rubber gasket on the bottom. Put the plate over the master cylinder, screw it down if you can, attached the vacuum hose, and pump several times on the vacuum pump. At the same time, active the brake lever several times. My brake levers are well and truly hard as a rock if done right.
Oh dude. Thankyou so much for this video. I changed my handlebars so I needed to change my front brake line for a longer one. So I thought you bleed like normal, and I pumped amd pumped, bled and bled but could not get any pressure in the line. I tried for days and days and even bought a new brake cylinder and still the same thing. So I gave up and said oh well I’ve got my back brakes. Then I thought I’ll see if anything on TH-cam and chose your because I seemed straight forward. And what do you know it worked after 20 min. Then bled the nipples with 2 bleeds and my grip is so firm now. Thanks buddy cheers
You are most welcome mate, im glad the video could help you out and get the job done.. Now you have another skill and can deal with this quickly in the future, take care and ride safe.. Del.
TOP MAN EXCELLENT INFORMATION!!!!!!!!!
Great video and excellent tip! Just replaced a master cylinder and after two hrs of fighting with it, went in the house and looked up your channel. Problem solved.
Glad it helped you my friend, have a good Sunday!
More videos for me to recall when needed del awsome 👍👍👍
Cheers Gav, stick in your saved box buddy!
Brilliant!
Awesome :)
Cheers mate..
Great tip may fond 8t quicker . Ove done oldschool way at lever and nipple . I spent ten quid on a one way bleed valve with hose . Works a treat used on my car too one man job
Another great video, still learning at 72....
I found on a couple of kawasakis there was air trapped in the master cylinder and cracking that top nut helped. I find "back bleeding" quite therapeutic. Thanks for the upload. Russ
Too true buddy, in fact, Wemoto sell a double banjo bolt for the master cylinder (if you're running twin lines), and it has a bleed nipple in the end of it.. so you can crack that last little void really easily and if you're back bleeding, just open that and it's a lot easier than pushing it through the master cylinder..! Hope life is good mate, and business is brisk..! ride safe,, Del.
I had high spots in the middle so it didn't work, I ended up using a hose attached to the bleeder and to a bottle then bottle to vacuum cleaner haha. Worked in seconds, I was committed to getting it done without spending any money haha
Loved that Del, it's something I'll never do myself (I'll just monumentally cock it up like I do anything requiring manual dexterity) but it's good to know how these things are done and of course I find your videos very relaxing to watch...great stuff! P.S I've got a braking issue on my beemer at the moment (rear gets stuck on as soon as I use it, rock hard pedal...I guess under use??)....been riding it using the front brake only...maybe I should pop down to Del's to get it sorted??
Hey buddy.. sounds like the rear caliper jamming up maybe?. does it 'bind' at all, do you notice the disc being hot even if you haven't used the back brake?.. give us a call mate, i can give you a couple of home tip's you can do to free it off and at least confirm if it needs anything more invasive..! be good to chat too.. D&Pxx
exactly the VIDEO I needed! replaced a brake line and the previously simple bleed process has become crazy.... Im pushing the pistons back and gravity bleeding initially... then trying speed bleeders - tmrw
If you get in that position mate, then grab yourself a Brake Fluid Syringe and just inject it in through the bleed valve until it fills up the reservoir at the top, here's a link... www.spanner-monkey.co.uk/oil-and-brake-fluid-inspection-syringe-200ml-120826?search=vs404&description=true
Great Video Del 👏👌🏻👍
Great video, thanks. I would like to you if you have ever seen anyone use vacuum on the reservoir to remove air? I saw a video once where a guy just filled the reservoir, set a cap with a nipple on it on top and applied vacuum to that, which pulled the air out. When the reservoir got low, he filled it and applied vacuum. He did that until the oil level remained constant.
Ive ALWAYS primed everything i can be it a car or a bike, ive actually just rebuilt, today the 6 pot tokico's from my TL1000r, i use a syringe to fill both calipers thru' the banjo bolt hole, finger over hole, move it about so it gets into the space, then top up, have banjos n bolts ready, pour fluid into res', wait until it starts to piss out, fit bolts n tighten pull lever in+out...let go, loadsa bubbles, few more times, job done....but...if EVER stuck...try using a large syringe and start from bleed nipple and fill it 'backwards'...they can be a bastard to bleed if your inexperienced....this is also a good tip delboy 👍
Good advice indeed mate, i use a syringe a lot these days, often to backfill all the way to the top, then a quick bleed down to firm up the lever.. You need a decent quality heavy duty syringe to apply enough force, so the usual "chemist shop off the shelf item won't do... i use one of these, works really well, :- www.spanner-monkey.co.uk/oil-and-brake-fluid-inspection-syringe-200ml-120826?search=VS404&description=true
Just replaced the clutch hose on my T'bird 900. Was wondering how to fill the sysyem....now I know. Cheers Del.