Quick note: I did get the volume on the new cargo container wrong, as the two are not the same size. It is not the same as the large cargo. There are also 2 more ports on the prototech refinery. I forgot to include two minor parts from the update in the video: - Action blocks like sensors now support multiple toolbars. - There is a set and execute value for several blocks. So you can now push a button to for example: make a piston extend a specific distance. Hope you still enjoy the video!
The new container is NOT larger, volume-wise than the small grid large; the new one comes out to 13,125L . Which means it's still smaller than it should be, but not by a lot, Edit: as it's 3.5m x 2.5m x 1.5m, whereas the small grid large comes out to 15,625L at 2.5m x 2.5m x 2.5m. There's 2.5m³ difference between the two blocks
You're also incorrect about the Prototech Refinery (large grid) having only 2 conveyor ports. It has 4. The bottom is a mirror-image of the back, just as the top is a mirror of the front. This makes it handy to place a pair of them in symmetrical builds.
These encounters are extremely overpowered for a new saves. I started a new game on Pertam and within about 30 minutes a single blip appeared for a "damaged antenna" 6km away. I jetpacked over to it and found a ship with a functioning nuclear reactor + ingots, 10k iron ingots in loose loot, and a ship comprised of large grid heavy armor. Talk about an overpowered start....
I feel like that's pretty good actually, the slow early progression when starting on a planet feels really tedious, especially if it's not your first time
I guess I'm still waiting for the small-grid, large-conveyor piston. :sigh: The Modular cargo at 5x3x7 is 105 small-grid cubes, where the large cargo at 5x5x5 is 125 small-grid-cubes, so the 10k vs 15k storage works.
True. But the modular should still have a bit more volume than it does. Given its a lot closer in terms of blocks than 33%, which is how much difference in space there is.
I just finished my RV style rover with modded blocks for an interior, and then Keen goes and adds them all to a DLC. Welp, time to remake it for a no-mod version.
I Have a ship that i have been waiting to finnish since June cause i want the new Ion thrusters on it. Seems Im going to be redoing way more of that ship than just the thrusters as well 😄
The cargo containers have volume based on the size. 1 large grid is a 5x5x5 small grid block, so the small grid large cargo container amd the large grid small cargo container have the same volume. Each small grid block is half a meter wide, so a single large grid block uses 15kL, just like the amount shown on the blocks. The new container is 3x5x7, which is 105, but the small grid large container is 5x5x5, which is 125. So it is bigger
Further, the SG Small container has a volume of 125, same as the Engineer. Like many things in SE, it increases linearly in size. Don't know why this new container is different, though. It would make more sense by volume to be 3x4x7.
Not even commenting on what seems to me to be one of the best parts of the Prototech Gyros: More than one attachment point. It looks to be a full block rather than the "only the bottom can attach" of the standard model.
you should look up details on each block before recording, if not make a script. a lot of the things you weren't 100% sure on has been confirmed with numbers by others
I just wanted to mention the new small grid cargo container is smaller by area and volume so keen is correct. The old is 5x5x5=125, the new is 3x5x7=105, 20 block difference so 5,000 L difference seems about right. 🤓
As far as i checked more or less most prototech block are at least 2x stronger than vanila counterpart Thruster only has twice the power of hydrogen thruster.. battery is 4x stronger redinery 6x faster and 2x more yield so yeah pretty good
Well, x2 hydrogen thruster without needing fuel is pretty big. I can't be the only guy who frequently biulds an awesome ship, but then finds that it has insufficient engine power to fly(or only barely flies at a snail's pace). The Prototech thruster is probably getting used in every creative mode ship from now on...
just as a quick note, CIWS is pronounced see-wis due to CIWS not being pronounceable normally, that said good review on this! looking forward to your next video
So the update came out on the computer, adding only the little change to the factions and the prototech blocks. The whole PvE aspect hasn't changed when I updated, and the prototech faction doesn't even load in, and some of the blocks just don't work. I'm not sure wassup but it's kinda frustrating tbh
That's bc Keen decided to release the update to Microsoft the DAY OF the release. Not on MS this time, it's Keen. Bc this is the 1st update that has not released at the same time/day.
the dlc container is slightly smaller than to large small grid one : 5*5*5=125 cubes for the large, 5*3*7=105 for the DLC. DLC is slightly less efficient, with 95.24 l/cube against 125, but much easier to look nice with its irregular shape.
the prototech drill, 3x3x4 and does NOT come in small grid....... YET... i think modders will rectify this fairly quick, along with other proto blocks they think should also be small grid along with any blocks they think should have been proto'd as well..... just sayin, may take time, but i think it will happen....
Hi AliceDoesThings, I did everything on your video and the Ai radar does not work. I build the radar in small and large grid. And I am not sure on what I did wrong. (on a video for Ai Radar: How to make an AI RADAR - Space Engineers Automatons AI Update)
I was quite surprised, as I thought they were prototech turrets. Part of me is happy they aren't though, because they look so cool and won't be too expensive to make.
ive played SE since before conveyors even existed. played vanilla for a few years, then changed to modded. all this new stuff does not feel new, because ive played with the same stuff with mods basically lol.
So basically playing on xbox this felt more like a cash grab then a update especially since the update didn't feel like a update. I'm yapping right now because I'm lowkey salty
Acquire enough frame and parts on encounters and you could build the assembler... However i had an idea for a unique prototech block that makes the frames since the only two unable to be made are prototech frame and scrap. But it also would be barricaded behind an encounter
Check out rotors in actions menu( eg timer).... So much great options. Rotor Lock on and rotor Lock off. So now no guessing. Also. Set angel and reset. And rotate to angel.. I am grinding down timers left right and center. ...also for pistons.. Connectors in actions menus. Collect all on Collect all off.
"insanely" is over exaggerating, the refinery is only 50 over normal refinery with the modules thrusters are garbage pretty much same just different model
@@AliceDoesThings404 You are right about that but to me fills like a snails run for endgame things, modders will fix that. I think keen just pumped out end game blocks to slow down updates so they can focus on the new game engine
2:50 so basically the entire thing is just worse, does absolutely less than anything else, is useless, takes up more space, BUT atleast its "new" and "looks cool". pathetic company, honestly...
You're missing the part where the Prototech Assembler is the only way to craft the components needed to build other Prototech blocks. You can of course also scavenge those components and blocks.
Okay, nice hard surface modeling KEEN, but how about some gameplay changes? Just new encounters (like the old ones?...)? Meh. 10 years and still the same gameplay. OH WOW, PROTOTECH! Same blocks remodelled and reconfigured. Cosmetics dlc, how refreshing! Such a shame. Do something new, you lazy ... (772 hrs in-game since 2014, btw)
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Quick note: I did get the volume on the new cargo container wrong, as the two are not the same size. It is not the same as the large cargo. There are also 2 more ports on the prototech refinery.
I forgot to include two minor parts from the update in the video:
- Action blocks like sensors now support multiple toolbars.
- There is a set and execute value for several blocks. So you can now push a button to for example: make a piston extend a specific distance.
Hope you still enjoy the video!
The new container is NOT larger, volume-wise than the small grid large; the new one comes out to 13,125L . Which means it's still smaller than it should be, but not by a lot, Edit: as it's 3.5m x 2.5m x 1.5m, whereas the small grid large comes out to 15,625L at 2.5m x 2.5m x 2.5m. There's 2.5m³ difference between the two blocks
sup dawg what mods do you play with ?
You're also incorrect about the Prototech Refinery (large grid) having only 2 conveyor ports. It has 4. The bottom is a mirror-image of the back, just as the top is a mirror of the front. This makes it handy to place a pair of them in symmetrical builds.
I learned that afterwards. I was just so surprised the volume difference was so big when they are similarish in size.
I noticed that after it was done. I forgot to check it properly, guess I was a bit too excited.
These encounters are extremely overpowered for a new saves. I started a new game on Pertam and within about 30 minutes a single blip appeared for a "damaged antenna" 6km away. I jetpacked over to it and found a ship with a functioning nuclear reactor + ingots, 10k iron ingots in loose loot, and a ship comprised of large grid heavy armor. Talk about an overpowered start....
Yeeouch. Guess you are speedrunning now. But yeah, that sounds a bit overpowered, especially if it was poorly defended.
Meh, I would love to find easy starts like that. 😅
Depends, because 3 ingots of uranium isn't going to make you a lot of missiles
8 hours and I havent found a single encounter in space. New save, But constant two factorum gps icons in my hud.
I feel like that's pretty good actually, the slow early progression when starting on a planet feels really tedious, especially if it's not your first time
I would love a small easter egg, that when you put for example magnessium into microwave it would "explode"
I guess I'm still waiting for the small-grid, large-conveyor piston. :sigh:
The Modular cargo at 5x3x7 is 105 small-grid cubes, where the large cargo at 5x5x5 is 125 small-grid-cubes, so the 10k vs 15k storage works.
True. But the modular should still have a bit more volume than it does. Given its a lot closer in terms of blocks than 33%, which is how much difference in space there is.
@@AliceDoesThings404for me, the look, 4 large conveyor ports, and the convenience of its shape for small grid designs make up for it
I just finished my RV style rover with modded blocks for an interior, and then Keen goes and adds them all to a DLC. Welp, time to remake it for a no-mod version.
I Have a ship that i have been waiting to finnish since June cause i want the new Ion thrusters on it. Seems Im going to be redoing way more of that ship than just the thrusters as well 😄
I just finished a small grid NX-01 Enterprise with the new kitchen and bed blocks and it turned out really well, is your RV on the steam workshop?
The cargo containers have volume based on the size. 1 large grid is a 5x5x5 small grid block, so the small grid large cargo container amd the large grid small cargo container have the same volume. Each small grid block is half a meter wide, so a single large grid block uses 15kL, just like the amount shown on the blocks. The new container is 3x5x7, which is 105, but the small grid large container is 5x5x5, which is 125. So it is bigger
Further, the SG Small container has a volume of 125, same as the Engineer. Like many things in SE, it increases linearly in size. Don't know why this new container is different, though. It would make more sense by volume to be 3x4x7.
@@Zephandolf I almost didn't notice that. It carries less than it should, right?
@@nomekop777 it does. It's like it's missing half a block of width along the long axis on both sides. Volume matches 3x4x7.
Realized that after the fact. But there is still a bigger volume difference than there should be.
Not even commenting on what seems to me to be one of the best parts of the Prototech Gyros: More than one attachment point. It looks to be a full block rather than the "only the bottom can attach" of the standard model.
I already see it now: they're gonna have to make inverted corners for those bridge windows.
These new bridge/window blocks are a god send. I’m going to have to redesign a lot of my ships now
another thing about the inset connector is that its airtight
ClangSmiths everywhere are gonna have a field day with that new thruster
Flood lights at full power during the night will blind you when you look at em as well! xD
Also
5x5x5=125 (Large Cargo)
5x3x7=105 (Modular Cargo)
which is 16% smaller but has like 35% less capacity
@@pokeface119 yup, which is strange to me but oh well.
Thank you for doing a proper showcase of the new blocks. I'm away from the PC but I've been looking for this very thing for hours.
I’d like to point out that the auto cannons look like the C-RAM that the military uses
Ooooh my Star Wars ships will be getting a massive upgrade
you should look up details on each block before recording, if not make a script. a lot of the things you weren't 100% sure on has been confirmed with numbers by others
Yeah that is a fair point. Guess I got a bit too excited about the update-
I would still like to mention the video is still great, just coupd be better
@FutureDragon Thank you, and I appriciate it.
Excellent video for its completeness. Also, things are really improving at Keen ;0)
Was worth the wait. They outdid themselves with this one. I am excited now
Oh man! I have a long weekend starting on thursday. Ill be be playing SE 3 days straight this stuff looks great!
I just wanted to mention the new small grid cargo container is smaller by area and volume so keen is correct. The old is 5x5x5=125, the new is 3x5x7=105, 20 block difference so 5,000 L difference seems about right. 🤓
I am surprised by that. Given it is
this will be awesome love the new connectors this update will be a game changer for players the protech items are really cool thanks for the review
@23:00 The large one is about 20% bigger than the new one.
5x5x5 = 125
5x3x7 = 105
New control seat and windows giving me ideas for a stealth bomber.
Space engineers needs infantry around encounters so the game ain't boring
This is the first step towards making much larger ships viable
13:05 did you forget to cut or did you just not talk for a few seconds?
I probably did. Was using some new software to edit, do it must have slipped by
As far as i checked more or less most prototech block are at least 2x stronger than vanila counterpart
Thruster only has twice the power of hydrogen thruster.. battery is 4x stronger redinery 6x faster and 2x more yield so yeah pretty good
Well, x2 hydrogen thruster without needing fuel is pretty big.
I can't be the only guy who frequently biulds an awesome ship, but then finds that it has insufficient engine power to fly(or only barely flies at a snail's pace). The Prototech thruster is probably getting used in every creative mode ship from now on...
just as a quick note, CIWS is pronounced see-wis due to CIWS not being pronounceable normally, that said good review on this! looking forward to your next video
The cargo is indeed has less volume
5 x 5 x 5 = 125 block volume
3 x 5 x 7 = 105 block volume
It's 17% less volume and has 30% less capacity.
No 3x3 piston is criminal but the small grid decorations more than make up for it for til next upsate
I want to sleep in the small grid bed. It looks soo nice.
I THOUGHT I WOULD NOT SEE IT IN MY LIFE TIME .
refinery has two more ports on the bottom
Noticed that after it was uploaded-
23:15 no, 5*3*7=105. 5*5*5=125, the big is larger and the medium is smaller
thx for the video!! may i ask... wich mod are you using to see the live, o2, h, battery...etc like this???
welcome back my dude.
Good to be back!
all the odd sized blocks My OCD is insane
Are the new pistons more clang friendly? One can hope at least.
Hope
@@PhrooberCZ hopes the word
You wish
If u do the math 5x5x5 is 125 and 5x3x7 is 105 so the vanilla one is bigger volume
The refinery have 4 ports, 2 behind, 2 under.
Interesting!
So the update came out on the computer, adding only the little change to the factions and the prototech blocks. The whole PvE aspect hasn't changed when I updated, and the prototech faction doesn't even load in, and some of the blocks just don't work. I'm not sure wassup but it's kinda frustrating tbh
Do I have to start a new Home System, or will they appear in old Home World? (Talking about the new encounter)
Thanks for the vid. Sad its not on the xbone
DELAYED ON XBOX! Bought the Contract Pack & Installed not showing up on XBOX. There was also no warning of the product being delayed B4 purchase.
Yeah thats annoying, i scooped up the contact dlc abd the update hasn't reached us yet...
That's bc Keen decided to release the update to Microsoft the DAY OF the release. Not on MS this time, it's Keen. Bc this is the 1st update that has not released at the same time/day.
Yea only PC and PS
@@PhrooberCZ Hopefully they release it today 0ct 15. I was really looking forward to upgrading my Ships.
There was in the announcement and in the stream. I hate it because I'm on Xbox too. It should come out in the next few weeks for us.
the dlc container is slightly smaller than to large small grid one : 5*5*5=125 cubes for the large, 5*3*7=105 for the DLC. DLC is slightly less efficient, with 95.24 l/cube against 125, but much easier to look nice with its irregular shape.
the prototech drill, 3x3x4 and does NOT come in small grid....... YET... i think modders will rectify this fairly quick, along with other proto blocks they think should also be small grid along with any blocks they think should have been proto'd as well..... just sayin, may take time, but i think it will happen....
would the new cargo be lighter as well?
@12:12 The question is: Is it directional? (As the design might suggest.)
Hi AliceDoesThings, I did everything on your video and the Ai radar does not work. I build the radar in small and large grid. And I am not sure on what I did wrong. (on a video for Ai Radar: How to make an AI RADAR - Space Engineers Automatons AI Update)
Is the update not on council yet because my version says it’s 1.204 not 1.205????
They changed the connector blocks by washing machine?
Is it just me that is dissapointed that turrets are dlc and not new types of turrets?
I was quite surprised, as I thought they were prototech turrets. Part of me is happy they aren't though, because they look so cool and won't be too expensive to make.
whats the hud mod you use
battery are not 4x stronger, they are 2x stronger because the block is twice as big
48mwh output is 4x 12mwh.
Also, prototech battery has 90% charge efficiency vs standard’s 80%
GREAT! Now my girlfriend actually has something to do in this game! 13:55
Need single block Solar Panels ...
ITS A MICROWAVEEEEEE
You never went back to the small grid jump drive 😢
Crap, I might have accidentally deleted that part when editing. Because I did go back to it.
Aw man now I gotta get another dlc
Luckily they are cheap!
I gladly pay the couple of bucks it takes to also support future updates.
I haz a question does anyone know if its been released on xbox yet? Im super hyped to play but i had to go to work before the update went live on xbox
Nah its been delayed a bit due to certification. That's what xocliw said in the livestream. Sucks you're going to have to wait a bit. :(
They have yet to post a release date for the Xbox/Windows Store update according to the release blog post
Ahhhhh now im sad
I feel ya, I’m on Xbox too.
ahh, why does the gyroscope turn all over the place, thats not how thats supposed to work ;D
ive played SE since before conveyors even existed. played vanilla for a few years, then changed to modded. all this new stuff does not feel new, because ive played with the same stuff with mods basically lol.
I can build a Space Truck!
So basically playing on xbox this felt more like a cash grab then a update especially since the update didn't feel like a update. I'm yapping right now because I'm lowkey salty
I wish the game, and the world I pick, loaded faster 😢
Please add food and cooking and farming I'm begging here😢
Still nothing for Xbox ?
I’m sorry but prototech is not it, u can’t reverse engineer them cmon, let us go on missions to get the blueprints fighting AI to unlock prototech
Give it a week there will be a mod lmao
Acquire enough frame and parts on encounters and you could build the assembler...
However i had an idea for a unique prototech block that makes the frames since the only two unable to be made are prototech frame and scrap. But it also would be barricaded behind an encounter
@@wanderingaceminecraftandmo8034 sounds perfect
Check out rotors in actions menu( eg timer).... So much great options.
Rotor Lock on and rotor Lock off. So now no guessing.
Also. Set angel and reset. And rotate to angel..
I am grinding down timers left right and center. ...also for pistons..
Connectors in actions menus.
Collect all on
Collect all off.
Q-tech mod still better
"insanely" is over exaggerating, the refinery is only 50 over normal refinery with the modules
thrusters are garbage pretty much same just different model
Well, you are forgetting that you can't have full yield and speed at the same time. The prototech refinery gets both basically.
@@AliceDoesThings404 You are right about that but to me fills like a snails run for endgame things,
modders will fix that.
I think keen just pumped out end game blocks to slow down updates so they can focus on the new game engine
Ermm
2:50 so basically the entire thing is just worse, does absolutely less than anything else, is useless, takes up more space, BUT atleast its "new" and "looks cool". pathetic company, honestly...
You're missing the part where the Prototech Assembler is the only way to craft the components needed to build other Prototech blocks. You can of course also scavenge those components and blocks.
Okay, nice hard surface modeling KEEN, but how about some gameplay changes? Just new encounters (like the old ones?...)? Meh. 10 years and still the same gameplay.
OH WOW, PROTOTECH!
Same blocks remodelled and reconfigured. Cosmetics dlc, how refreshing!
Such a shame.
Do something new, you lazy ...
(772 hrs in-game since 2014, btw)
Say interesting more please. i dont think 1000 times per sentence is enough/
I love your profile name
Interesting.