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@@Vivi_Strike no no if your passion is not vague and practical enough you should defo go for it. In my case i first thought of getting psych degree but as i know now that it's one of worthless degrees out there,too hyped, plus it's like taking risk so I rather put efforts into getting a safe degree which won't limit me or is very diverse. If your degree is already in demand and it's practical go for it.
@Isa No dear I'm not from the us, plus taking up psychology as a degree is risky if you don't know what you're gonna go for, nevertheless be confident, maybe try getting into hr after doing psychology, the field is mainly related to human psychology lol. Even I'm thinking of persuing hr in future.
You should look into the PPE degree in the UK (politics, philosophy and econ) it’s a really good mix of liberal arts and is the degree taken by most of our Prime Ministers
I studied in the US in a school with PPE/PPL degrees, but I dropped it after a semester abroad in LSE. PPE is like dabbling in all areas but never quite know any of them in-depth. How can one claim to know philosophy without knowing systematic philosophy? How can one claim to know Econ without taking classes in econometrics? Double major and minor would be a much better way to learn.
Great video! I got an Econ degree and currently work in finance. I got some Econ specific job offers right out of school, but went with this finance job because I get free master’s level college credits as a perk of the job (studying economic development now). Highly recommend Econ degrees to anyone like me that didn’t have a very specific career path in mind, given that it’s a flexible degree and you learn a lot of skills and logic that are transferable to a variety of jobs.
I just discovered this channel like a week ago and I would recommend this channel to any high school student before they enter college. I also like how your videos add humor since it makes the video really creative, funny and original.
Woah cool to see urban planning mentioned considering it’s a lesser known field/profession. I majored in it (also double major in political science) and now I work for city government. So true what you said about first identifying a job you want, and then going backwards to see what degree will get you there. Best way to make sure you have a job when you graduate.
Binge watching your channel for 3 days and got my existential crisis figured out. I love the comment section too, learned a lot from this community : ) Love it!
Darkpaw1 Not really. That’s a generalized assumption. Being a liberal arts major doesn’t automatically make it a bad major. What makes it a bad major is “Can you find a job with it?” Political science and economics majors usually don’t have too many struggles finding a job
@@TimothyRichard12345 You're also making general assumptions. Yes they find a job, but is it a good job? Does it pay well? The average starting salary for college graduates in a liberal arts degree is less than 30k, that's about $15 an hour. And that's being a bit generous. I was a Criminal Justice major in my senior year. Did research over the Summer and found my degree had a very poor ROI. I switched over last minute back to Software Engineering. If you want to stay in the liberal arts, feel free. Just know you're taking a bigger risk than neccessary; can't say nobody didn't warn you. Edit: I'm going to be nice. Did some research for you: Economics is good if you're coming from a Ivy League school. It's more about connections than anything. Not a bad major overall, but still way more risky than it needs to be. The average guy with this degree starts between 31k-37k. Most Ecomic majors pair their degree with an Engineering degree, which obviously raises the starting salary by A Lot. But alone, it's a hit or miss. Political Science majors tend to work for non profits. Most of them apply for jobs outside their field for lesser pay. Ivy League schools don't seem to help too much here surprisingly. From the jobs they mentioned it's between unemployment - 25k. The only exception is the obvious luck or connections, which usually end up working outside their field.
Darkpaw1 I did my own research. Econ is actually listed as one of the majors that gets the most job offers. 62% of Economics majors already had a job offer lined up out of college and you are right about political science but I’m graduating college significantly earlier than most people and I was definitely not stop at my undergrad degree. I’m going up to my doctorate
Thanks for sharing your thoughts, but I would have to disagree when it comes to the Communications/Media/Journalism degree. As long as you have experience in the field, it doesn't hurt to have formal education as the industry itself it's becoming more and more mixed in terms of skillset. The degree teaches you the basics of each forms of communication which you can then apply to the market place. Moreover, if you are already in the industry, it's good to go back and freshen up on industry trends while picking up new skills and diverse thinking along the way. Not to mention the networking aspect of things. It all goes back to the main points that I've made previously; (1) Discover what you want to do at a very early age; at least 14-18 years old. Key point is to know what you will be doing, not where you will be doing it at. (2) Get into that field and start getting as much as experience in that field as possible and transition build on it through high school, college and beyond. (3) Don't go to grad school right after finishing undergrad for obvious reasons! A Master's Degree is worth more when you are already a Master in your field. (4) There's no set way to navigating through your career. It's ok to zigzag to get were you want to be. Lastly, Take what Shane says with a grain of salt. If you want to do something, do it. But don't think that just going to school is going to get you places, it takes years of patience and adapting to your environments/industries. Good Luck!
This actually helped me a lot because I rlly wanna go to college to learn about things I love but I know that I will eventually have to sell my labor and shit so ur point about marketable skills made me realize that I should just minor or double major
This one reminds me of an old joke... The science major asks "Why does it work?" The engineering major asks "How does it work?" The health major asks "How do I cure it?" The liberal arts major asks "Would you like to super size it?"
I’m studying English Language and Linguistics at the University of Amsterdam, and since I’m fluent in English, Dutch, and Spanish, my goal is to do a Masters in interpretation and translation.
@Shashi tharoor According to the bureau of labor statistics, "Employment of interpreters and translators is projected to grow 20 percent from 2019 to 2029, much faster than the average for all occupations". So I would say yes! It also helps if you have some experience with translating already, so I'd recommend trying to find little translation jobs to do here and there during your studies :)
@Shashi tharoor Translation jobs are where you work in translating written text from one language to another. Interpreting is when you translate what someone is saying, so spoken text. I think that by "working for a news channel" you mean people who interpret live on the news. But there are many other jobs other than working for a news channel. For example, there are court interpreters, community interpreters, conference interpreters, etc. It is the same for translation jobs: there is legal translation, medical translation, literary translation, and many others. I'd recommend you read up it, there are many resources available online!
@Shashi tharoor After I finish, I will do a Master's in translation and hopefully find a job at a publishing house as a literary translator, so translating Spanish or English books into Dutch.
I was about to go study liberal arts, but then after watching your previous videos, I decided to settle for a business degree, thank you for saving me from future debt 😅
Anthro/socio courses often include courses in research methods that involve learning r. Lots of people who did these degrees end up in UX research (which directly involved qualitative research methods taught in socio) and data science!
Omg thank you so much!! I'm literally applying to liberal art colleges right now 🥺🥺 I'm thinking of applying for an education degree, and I know it doesn't pay well at all but im really passionate about teaching so I think I'll be okay with the shitty pay haha
I'm getting a biology degree, I want to be a teacher as well but want to have some options. Km minoring in education and management. My end goal is to be a principle or end up on a school board but I'd have to get a grad degree anyways
@@valarie-kayeferguson1736 getting a high spot in the piramid is as valid as going outaside of it, try to meet people with influence in the área, maybe politicians
Something you missed with the Philosophy degree is what we call the "dialectic". It is the sharing of discourse between two or more in argumentation or debate in order to establish the core basis of truth. This is an art that can't be taught in a book, which is why you don't see too many undergraduate Philosophy degrees taught online. Respectfully, your categorization on this one is a bit off. Additionally, the reason why philosophy graduates make so much in the long-run is not just because the subject attracts smart people, but also because those people tend to score much better on the GRE, MCAT, and LSAT, and are much more likely to go to graduate school, medical school and law school. Philosophers are the type you commonly see getting a score of 5 on the analytical writing section of the GRE. You hit the nail on the head of criminal justice majors. In fact, I can only see such a degree adding something to a person who is already in a the profession. If you want to go into law enforcement, ANY degree is good. However, to make yourself more diversified and insured in your career prospects, you might be better off majoring in something like Business Management or Accounting. Most law enforcement agencies also need good business managers to run their executive leadership positions. Police stations and prison complexes run similar to large nonprofit businesses. If you get such an industry-focused degree, you won't find yourself "trapped" in a career in law enforcement should you later down the road change your mind. But, if you major in Criminal Justice, what else is there you can do apart from working in law enforcement? The CJ degree is much better as a master's degree than as a bachelor's or associate's, unless you are already a seasoned and dedicated professional with years of experience the area and looking to enhance your long-term ability to promote. I broke all of the "rules". I got a philosophy degree, went and took a job in criminal justice that only required a high school diploma. Worked overtime and paid for a master's degree in psychology, and now I make over $135K a year as an executive in the mental health unit of a prison. And, I didn't "waste" money on my philosophy degree like some may be thinking. I took it and researched this tiny field called "philosophical counseling", where this thing we call "practical philosophy" is flourishing. We apply this systematic process to our therapy and treatment of prisoners and those struggling with drug addiction.
Geography has the underlying skill of GIS which from what I understand includes database programming (python, R, etc). Many geography programs include GIS in the curriculum so it has a data science aspect to the field. I think the computer skills earned would bump it up a notch.
Hi from Salt Lake City, UT! I just wanted to say you're one of the best TH-camrs out there who actually help people like me at age 25. I'm going to show your content to my brother, because he wants to get a psychology degree, but the reality is, he's struggling to figure out what he wants from university. Thanks for your work man, it helps a lot and goes a long ways.
Since I am going into Anthropology/ Archaeology I know the risks thanks to other sources and your channel. From what I researched, I can use my GIS certificate and that degree to work with the military as a geographer. (79,000- 119,000 a year) From what I have seen geography is pretty rewarding.
Very Good Then do those plus Geography, and you’d be more likely guaranteed. But being honest, if the only jobs available are military geographers, it’s a degree with limited job opportunities.
Great video! Could you try ranking the best biosciences degrees (biomedicine, biochemistry, bioinformatics, biotechnology etc.)? Loving all of the information.
Another good video! I wonder have you did a video on double majors or dual degrees (BA and BS) ? That would be an interesting video idea. Also when I was applying for an internship at a police agency, the hiring manager told me do not major in Criminal Justice and major in Accounting or a Foreign Language, just not Criminal Justice. She told me Criminal Justice majors are a dime a dozen.
Finished my Econ degree and pursuing an MBA in Financial Management right now. THE BEST decision I have ever made in my life was stop listening to everyone saying get a CS or engineering degree (because I was barely getting by in these courses) and switch to Econ. It greatly helps me with the bills and it is a very interesting subject that I study continuously through the Internet which in turn helped me get skills and knowledge necessary to get hired.
you got an econ major degree. Okay. Can you sustain the demand if you increase the wages of everyone either by law or the market itself when inflation is rampant and does taxes affect your spending power after
You'd be surprised how true a lot of the things are that you cover, even outside the US. Your vids are valuable man. Currently doing my bachelors in social work. I want to go the clinical route and then specialize in high level trauma counselling. Here in NZ at mid career, that can land you an advisory role. We don't have interest on our student loans, in the US I'd be forced to go do something else. Godspeed to you all, no matter where you are in the world, we can do this.
Most rich people have their children go for liberal arts. It just helps you all around becoming a more intelligent person and can articulate your words and understand the world and people to start a business or understand how to move up in a career
5:11 you would think right LOL. now there's a market on the rise oriented around breathwork/meditation. imagine getting a degree in breathing management technology in the next 5 years...
I'm pretty happy with this as someone wanting to be a philosophy professor eventually. Hoping to go for my PhD in Philosophy to accomplish that as my final stage YAYYYYY job goal, lol. I first am currently about to get my B.A. in general elementary education, maybe the duel one and do special education too, then their M.A. for secondary English. All in all, nice, very surprised, ngl, might go back and get an economics degree eventually to work something part time, if possible, just to save up lots... who knows. Maybe i could manage that, if i have the desire to. Thanks for this though! I'm so happy i found WGU, it's making me so excited that i can go back anytime i want to get something else. Here's to hoping once done i can get into some LA college and get this PhD bois.
Not, it easy to find a job in education then in CS now days... so education degree is better. Only few get the cs of software enginering job now day, but anyone who ended the ed degree got a job. And that is the fact. And even few got a decent job with CS degree, so all talks about big money is a big lie, and that is the fact. Because anyone is going to CS today, the compatition is so high in this filed, you got alot alumani in this degree, that not muching the demand
@Ruslan Levin - There’s a finite number of education jobs and salaries are dependent on number of schools, municipalities, etc. There’s an infinite amount of tech projects. You need a software team to build these remote learning tools that educators use. Also, with CS, you can work any position on a dev team, and with some minor extra study, you can work on an infrastructure team or business team. Even if you don’t get in Google or Facebook, there’s plenty of work out there.
As someone who has a bachelors in political science and a masters in economics, I would not recommend getting either one of these degrees. Finding a job is extremely difficult, near impossible (specially a gov job). If you are set on studying one of these, I would suggest on double majoring in stats or data science. That will most likely increase your chances of getting a job.
I made 42 Thousand in One year as a uncertified welder and Robotics operator. I had to learn each station and rewrote the work method and station setup to make it way more efficient/ productive. After practice MIG welding during lunch break for mounths when everyone's at lunch . I required minimal training welding. I got a $2,000 bonus on top of the $1,000 bonus and made a TS of my line for my contributions to the Power line. It improved to 30%. But a week later my new position drug test failed for a smidge of marijuana, losing my $22.h job. I have no idea how I got to this point in my comment but it probably has nothing to do with the video. Let me start watching again and see if I have to erase this rambling.
Liberal arts majors with exception of Economics can be good if you supplement them with income-producing skills. This could mean supplementing a minor or certificate in business, math, or technology-related courses. This can directly be added to your resume so you can appear more marketable. Also, graduate schools like law, MBA, Med school, etc can be another option. In this case, a liberal arts degree can be used as a stepping stone. Also, internships, externships, fellowships, or any relevant work experience would be great. Additionally, DO NOT double down on 'useless' degrees. This will lead to more debt and prolonged underemployment or a long streak as a transient adjunct professor.
I really enjoy your channel, it’s nice that you just give straight facts. I’ve watched your other videos and I’ve decided to switch my major to computer science.
I went the practical way and got my first degree in computer science. I made a decent living as a programmer for a few years, but I hated it so much that I went back to school and got a degree in English. I still work in IT out of necessity, but man do I wish I could do something else.
Hey :) Do you think you might make a video on if studying a PPE (Philosophy, Politics & Economics) degree is worth it, for job opportunities? I noticed that all of those individual subjects were the highest on the liberal arts list. Do you think the combination is a good idea? …Btw I'm so thankful I found your channel, its been very helpful as I'll be applying to university for next year.
Shane, I don't know why I watch these videos as I graduated a long time ago and have a successful career lol but it's fun and compelling for some reason. I have a couple of possible insights. The first is that a friend of mine is a political science major and he tells me poly sci jobs are very low pay. However, he said that STATISTICIANS hired to conduct polling and analyze political data are in very high demand and are paid very well, so my thought is that for those committed to politics who also like analyzing data, a double major in poly sci and stats might be a viable option. That is mere speculation on my part. The second thing about that econ degree is that I think I know why it starts low and goes high. Econ in the business world is like high level theory but practical application in nothing. As any finance professor will tell you, finance is applied economics. Thus, econ majors are attractive because you need business intelligence to get that degree and they do understand at a high level how the business world works but then when an econ majors tries to get a specific job in something employers are like, uhh, well, we don't know how well or where you will fit. But after an econ major gets any kind of work exp., he is off to the races.
I feel like education should be higher. True the pay isn't great (though an elite private school or another country it could be better) it does at least lead to a career in the field you studied. Teaching is difficult but if you can stick with it you are pretty much guaranteed a job for life.
*cries over my anthropology degree* I loved studying anthropology, but ended up moving to Japan after graduation and teaching English/managing a school. 🙈
I graduated archaeology and get what you’re talking about. On top, with not at all connection makes it more torture. Oh I’m sad though that linguistic would not so good either. Thanks for this, appreciated.
Tbh I've been thinking of double majoring in neuroscience and languages + taking a lot of math and research classes for my "practical" skills. A lot of my decisions have been influenced by this channel and while it's still not the best options out there it's a middle combination of what I want and what all these videos advise
Philosophy is getting pretty good treatment, based on sticking with only bachelor’s degrees. However, as they outscore everyone on graduate entrance exams, I would give it an S for aspiring MDs, JDs, MBAs, etc.
I wish you could make a tier list in IT major or CS major like: game design, and web development. I know both of these programs are very in demand, but I'm curious which majors stand the most or vice versa.
Graduates with a degree in math nowadays are very highly sought-after. There are so many positions out there for analysts and data mining people. You can pretty much write your own paycheck. My degree is in electrical engineering, and I've never worked in the field because I graduated during the tech bubble burst when nobody was hiring. But I use the math from that degree to work in data analysis and it pays well.
So basically, you wanna conclude that my biggest mistake was to take humanities in high school because there were no jobs for us. Of course, your videos are informative but exhaustive as well for an art student. I really want something that can help me choose a major that can make money in the future even if I made a mistake in the past. can you please consider my request?
Can you do STEM master's and doctorate degrees next? Like applied physics or applied mathematics vs the engineering majors (electrical, aerospace, mechanical, civil, industrial, etc)? Also, maybe how much a master's or doctorate in engineering management, systems engineering (more on the management side), or an MBA for an engineer or scientist would be worth? Thanks for the great content!
I'm from Argentina and I went to an internationl high school in China so I could get a scholarship in an American college. It was such a disappointment to know that most of the opportunities were for Liberal Arts. Most of my classmates got to Liberal Arts. I didn't have to do that much research to know that is pretty much useless to have that diploma, so I went back to my country where you can have high level education in any field for free and get an actual diploma haha
@@ShaneHummus Yes! We actually do have the best university in Latin America (www.archyde.com/ranking-universities-the-uba-and-unam-the-best-in-latin-america-and-one-peruvian-in-position-15/) and it's 100% free! So we're very lucky to have the same opportunities no matter our financial situation
I’m graduating with my associates in liberal arts & sciences in December, and then continuing on in a bachelors in either communications or general studies, cause you’re right, I (still) have no idea what I wanna do 🤷🏻♀️ thanks as always for the helpful info! -Kaylee
What about Classics? I was considering majoring in Philosophy, but now a double major with Econ or minor in Philosophy sounds better. I would try Physics or even statistics, but I already have taken four courses in Philosophy to count towards the major.
I went back to college in my thirties because I wanted to pursue my lifelong passion. It was for Anthropology/archaeology. I'm in my final week before graduation and despite having graduated summa cum laude, I'm staring at an empty job market while my barely passed their courses business friends are having to turn jobs down. Pursue your passion is a useless piece of advice meant to set people up for failure. I'm now having to do massive goal restructuring to make something with my useless bachelor's degree in grad school and beyond. Sigh.
Ahh I gotta thank you Shane. First semester of college and I was already questioning sticking with mass comm. but you really got me to switch. A lot of this stuff I am learning just does not feel useful. Wish me luck in switching to econ lol.
Thinking about doing the same. Was majoring in liberal studies in hopes of becoming a teacher but now I'm not so sure about teaching. And shoot later in the future i could teach economics 😋
I wish you had mentioned the job prospects for all of them. I wanted to know the job prospects for linguistics 🤔🤔🤔. Although I am going for a business degree, I am an incredible writer as well and quite curious about job prospects in linguistics? 🤔🤔🤔
It's going to be very difficult to get jobs in some of these fields with only a bachelor's degree. Take philosophy. Aside from the personal enrichment it might offer, philosophy is a field that one will never find a career in unless one goes to graduate school and gets a Ph.D. Much the same is true of many of the other majors discussed in this video. No one who works in these fields thinks, e.g., that someone with a bachelor's degree in philosophy is a philosopher, that someone with a bachelor's degree in anthropology is an anthropologist, etc., any more than, turning to the natural sciences, anyone thinks that someone with an undergraduate degree in physics is a physicist.
frame: a person applies to police force with a CJ degree, another person applies without any degree at all. One person has an associate degree in science. All three get the police job. Do you really think the person with no degree is on equal footing with the CJ degree officer? Barring very wild circumstances? At some point we have to say, that knowledge is power. And perhaps learning about the marginalized groups you will be working with in a non-cursory way will be beneifical to your job. All three officers will make the same. But come on, really. Do you honestly think that people should avoid college to become Officers? That's like saying people should avoid Medical School to become doctors because "they can just learn it on their own from videos and textbooks"
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Wait so if my passion is to become a operations manager I shouldn't get a degree for Business operations management?
@@Vivi_Strike no no if your passion is not vague and practical enough you should defo go for it. In my case i first thought of getting psych degree but as i know now that it's one of worthless degrees out there,too hyped, plus it's like taking risk so I rather put efforts into getting a safe degree which won't limit me or is very diverse. If your degree is already in demand and it's practical go for it.
@Isa Ba programme most probably, i wonder if you know bout this one hehe
@Isa No dear I'm not from the us, plus taking up psychology as a degree is risky if you don't know what you're gonna go for, nevertheless be confident, maybe try getting into hr after doing psychology, the field is mainly related to human psychology lol. Even I'm thinking of persuing hr in future.
I’m putting this video in S tier. S for Shane’s videos are a pretty good distraction from my stressful life.
Thanks man! I'll put your comment on S.. S for thanks for the like, but have you Subbed? 🤣
I don't even live in america and i love them
I’m sorry, God can remove stress in your life
Good thing my recent PHD in procrastination is not on the list, that means it is on the infinity tier, Infinitely useful.
Excellent!
So basically degrees that require a fundamental understanding of the human condition and allows for deep personal growth are the least important. 😬
Depends. If you can learn that without going in to debt that would change a lot of things
How do you make money from that though?
Not the least important. The least likely to have a successfully paying career in it. Not the same measurements.
No. They are the least paid.
@Darth Nox it's not
You should look into the PPE degree in the UK (politics, philosophy and econ) it’s a really good mix of liberal arts and is the degree taken by most of our Prime Ministers
Would love to have smth similar here, in Poland...
I studied in the US in a school with PPE/PPL degrees, but I dropped it after a semester abroad in LSE. PPE is like dabbling in all areas but never quite know any of them in-depth. How can one claim to know philosophy without knowing systematic philosophy? How can one claim to know Econ without taking classes in econometrics? Double major and minor would be a much better way to learn.
Boris Johnson, nah classics lmao
Yes... and there is 1 prime minister while the rest is unemployed LMAO
Sad they don't offer PPE for masters, though!
Double major, history and philosophy
Well I'm screwed
Try changing one of those to Businesse or something like that.
Good luck!
Change one to something STEM.
physics and philosophy gogo
Auxins you could shit in your hands and clap good sir
Great video! I got an Econ degree and currently work in finance. I got some Econ specific job offers right out of school, but went with this finance job because I get free master’s level college credits as a perk of the job (studying economic development now). Highly recommend Econ degrees to anyone like me that didn’t have a very specific career path in mind, given that it’s a flexible degree and you learn a lot of skills and logic that are transferable to a variety of jobs.
That is awesome! Thanks for sharing that Ryan
Great advice!! Thanks for sharing
Cool. I was just thinking about doing an econ major as a 2nd major within my health degree.
Hi! If Im doing a major in liberal arts i can do a master in economic? It is a good idea?
The most underappreciated youtuber and I have no idea why. You, Graham, and Alux are my top 3.
I appreciate that Jacob
Agreed. It's guys like him I reccomend to my friends to save them from choosing a Liberal Arts degree.
I just discovered this channel like a week ago and I would recommend this channel to any high school student before they enter college. I also like how your videos add humor since it makes the video really creative, funny and original.
Wow, thanks!
Woah cool to see urban planning mentioned considering it’s a lesser known field/profession. I majored in it (also double major in political science) and now I work for city government.
So true what you said about first identifying a job you want, and then going backwards to see what degree will get you there. Best way to make sure you have a job when you graduate.
Spot on. Cheers!
Binge watching your channel for 3 days and got my existential crisis figured out. I love the comment section too, learned a lot from this community : ) Love it!
Welcome aboard!
What are you doing now
I just clicked on the video and I'm betting that Economics and Poltical Sciene are at the top of the teir list while everything else is in F teir 😶
Before anyone bashes me I'm jk lol
You were pretty damn close tho lmao
Haha that's still a good guess though Rico
But he didn't include international relations and that degree shouldn't be on ftier..
You were right, sorta. Economics is a great degree, Accounting and Finance are far better, though.
Me looking to see what my degree will be ranked: 😐
Me when he says Political Science is A-Tier: 😁
Haha cheers to that Timothy!
Remind you this is a list of the "best of the worst".
That's basically saying Criminal Justice is the shiniest turd in the crap pile.
Darkpaw1 Not really. That’s a generalized assumption. Being a liberal arts major doesn’t automatically make it a bad major. What makes it a bad major is “Can you find a job with it?” Political science and economics majors usually don’t have too many struggles finding a job
@@TimothyRichard12345 You're also making general assumptions. Yes they find a job, but is it a good job? Does it pay well?
The average starting salary for college graduates in a liberal arts degree is less than 30k, that's about $15 an hour. And that's being a bit generous.
I was a Criminal Justice major in my senior year. Did research over the Summer and found my degree had a very poor ROI. I switched over last minute back to Software Engineering. If you want to stay in the liberal arts, feel free. Just know you're taking a bigger risk than neccessary; can't say nobody didn't warn you.
Edit:
I'm going to be nice. Did some research for you:
Economics is good if you're coming from a Ivy League school. It's more about connections than anything. Not a bad major overall, but still way more risky than it needs to be. The average guy with this degree starts between 31k-37k. Most Ecomic majors pair their degree with an Engineering degree, which obviously raises the starting salary by A Lot. But alone, it's a hit or miss.
Political Science majors tend to work for non profits. Most of them apply for jobs outside their field for lesser pay. Ivy League schools don't seem to help too much here surprisingly. From the jobs they mentioned it's between unemployment - 25k. The only exception is the obvious luck or connections, which usually end up working outside their field.
Darkpaw1 I did my own research. Econ is actually listed as one of the majors that gets the most job offers. 62% of Economics majors already had a job offer lined up out of college and you are right about political science but I’m graduating college significantly earlier than most people and I was definitely not stop at my undergrad degree. I’m going up to my doctorate
Thanks for sharing your thoughts, but I would have to disagree when it comes to the Communications/Media/Journalism degree. As long as you have experience in the field, it doesn't hurt to have formal education as the industry itself it's becoming more and more mixed in terms of skillset. The degree teaches you the basics of each forms of communication which you can then apply to the market place.
Moreover, if you are already in the industry, it's good to go back and freshen up on industry trends while picking up new skills and diverse thinking along the way. Not to mention the networking aspect of things.
It all goes back to the main points that I've made previously; (1) Discover what you want to do at a very early age; at least 14-18 years old. Key point is to know what you will be doing, not where you will be doing it at. (2) Get into that field and start getting as much as experience in that field as possible and transition build on it through high school, college and beyond. (3) Don't go to grad school right after finishing undergrad for obvious reasons! A Master's Degree is worth more when you are already a Master in your field. (4) There's no set way to navigating through your career. It's ok to zigzag to get were you want to be.
Lastly, Take what Shane says with a grain of salt. If you want to do something, do it. But don't think that just going to school is going to get you places, it takes years of patience and adapting to your environments/industries.
Good Luck!
I respect what you said Christian
Well said
This actually helped me a lot because I rlly wanna go to college to learn about things I love but I know that I will eventually have to sell my labor and shit so ur point about marketable skills made me realize that I should just minor or double major
Thanks for watching Alejandra
This one reminds me of an old joke...
The science major asks "Why does it work?"
The engineering major asks "How does it work?"
The health major asks "How do I cure it?"
The liberal arts major asks "Would you like to super size it?"
I like that 🤣
Business?
@@ShaneHummus money is not always key i understand debt but depends
@@nultyjack8219 - I don't remember a business degree in the joke. Was there one? It's been years since I heard it.
@@nultyjack8219 how can I sell it?
"C for England is my city" 😂😂 Subscribed 👍
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I’m studying English Language and Linguistics at the University of Amsterdam, and since I’m fluent in English, Dutch, and Spanish, my goal is to do a Masters in interpretation and translation.
@Shashi tharoor According to the bureau of labor statistics, "Employment of interpreters and translators is projected to grow 20 percent from 2019 to 2029, much faster than the average for all occupations". So I would say yes! It also helps if you have some experience with translating already, so I'd recommend trying to find little translation jobs to do here and there during your studies :)
@Shashi tharoor Translation jobs are where you work in translating written text from one language to another. Interpreting is when you translate what someone is saying, so spoken text. I think that by "working for a news channel" you mean people who interpret live on the news. But there are many other jobs other than working for a news channel. For example, there are court interpreters, community interpreters, conference interpreters, etc. It is the same for translation jobs: there is legal translation, medical translation, literary translation, and many others. I'd recommend you read up it, there are many resources available online!
@Shashi tharoor After I finish, I will do a Master's in translation and hopefully find a job at a publishing house as a literary translator, so translating Spanish or English books into Dutch.
I'm getting a masters into economics. Yay! :) I'm going to international development
Best of luck!
I was about to go study liberal arts, but then after watching your previous videos, I decided to settle for a business degree, thank you for saving me from future debt 😅
Glad to hear that Dame.. Good luck in your chosen career!
I hope you went into Accounting or at least an MBA in Econ.
Wish I had been able to watch your videos when I finished high school in 1996. Great work.
Anthro/socio courses often include courses in research methods that involve learning r. Lots of people who did these degrees end up in UX research (which directly involved qualitative research methods taught in socio) and data science!
I'm glad i came across your channel. Ty for all the knowledge. ✨️
Welcome Mandeep!
I wish that you went over linguistics more-I think there’s a lot more there. I really like your videos, thanks for posting!
Omg thank you so much!! I'm literally applying to liberal art colleges right now 🥺🥺
I'm thinking of applying for an education degree, and I know it doesn't pay well at all but im really passionate about teaching so I think I'll be okay with the shitty pay haha
Good luck Aura. Which one did you go for?
Just get a minor in computer science, get yourself some options out there, maybe double jobs
I'm getting a biology degree, I want to be a teacher as well but want to have some options. Km minoring in education and management. My end goal is to be a principle or end up on a school board but I'd have to get a grad degree anyways
@@valarie-kayeferguson1736 getting a high spot in the piramid is as valid as going outaside of it, try to meet people with influence in the área, maybe politicians
Wish you'd talked more about urban planning, great video nonetheless!
What other factors about it do you want to hear?
Something you missed with the Philosophy degree is what we call the "dialectic". It is the sharing of discourse between two or more in argumentation or debate in order to establish the core basis of truth. This is an art that can't be taught in a book, which is why you don't see too many undergraduate Philosophy degrees taught online. Respectfully, your categorization on this one is a bit off. Additionally, the reason why philosophy graduates make so much in the long-run is not just because the subject attracts smart people, but also because those people tend to score much better on the GRE, MCAT, and LSAT, and are much more likely to go to graduate school, medical school and law school. Philosophers are the type you commonly see getting a score of 5 on the analytical writing section of the GRE.
You hit the nail on the head of criminal justice majors. In fact, I can only see such a degree adding something to a person who is already in a the profession. If you want to go into law enforcement, ANY degree is good. However, to make yourself more diversified and insured in your career prospects, you might be better off majoring in something like Business Management or Accounting. Most law enforcement agencies also need good business managers to run their executive leadership positions. Police stations and prison complexes run similar to large nonprofit businesses. If you get such an industry-focused degree, you won't find yourself "trapped" in a career in law enforcement should you later down the road change your mind. But, if you major in Criminal Justice, what else is there you can do apart from working in law enforcement? The CJ degree is much better as a master's degree than as a bachelor's or associate's, unless you are already a seasoned and dedicated professional with years of experience the area and looking to enhance your long-term ability to promote.
I broke all of the "rules". I got a philosophy degree, went and took a job in criminal justice that only required a high school diploma. Worked overtime and paid for a master's degree in psychology, and now I make over $135K a year as an executive in the mental health unit of a prison. And, I didn't "waste" money on my philosophy degree like some may be thinking. I took it and researched this tiny field called "philosophical counseling", where this thing we call "practical philosophy" is flourishing. We apply this systematic process to our therapy and treatment of prisoners and those struggling with drug addiction.
Philosophy > psychology any day
@Drake I wish you were in my class lmao. Keep making comments on the youtube comment section buddy
@@Naruto_Ed1tsok naruto edits
@@Luka_Tim.I wish 135k a year was minimum pay
Can I have a latte?
Geography has the underlying skill of GIS which from what I understand includes database programming (python, R, etc). Many geography programs include GIS in the curriculum so it has a data science aspect to the field. I think the computer skills earned would bump it up a notch.
If it's Entry level pay is still crap it hardly matters.
Hi from Salt Lake City, UT! I just wanted to say you're one of the best TH-camrs out there who actually help people like me at age 25. I'm going to show your content to my brother, because he wants to get a psychology degree, but the reality is, he's struggling to figure out what he wants from university. Thanks for your work man, it helps a lot and goes a long ways.
Since I am going into Anthropology/ Archaeology I know the risks thanks to other sources and your channel. From what I researched, I can use my GIS certificate and that degree to work with the military as a geographer. (79,000- 119,000 a year) From what I have seen geography is pretty rewarding.
good luck!
Very Good Then do those plus Geography, and you’d be more likely guaranteed. But being honest, if the only jobs available are military geographers, it’s a degree with limited job opportunities.
@@wow-oq6jc Yea this is old. I changed it to political science with a focus on IR
Great video! Could you try ranking the best biosciences degrees (biomedicine, biochemistry, bioinformatics, biotechnology etc.)? Loving all of the information.
Noted Roha.. Maybe in the future
Another good video! I wonder have you did a video on double majors or dual degrees (BA and BS) ? That would be an interesting video idea.
Also when I was applying for an internship at a police agency, the hiring manager told me do not major in Criminal Justice and major in Accounting or a Foreign Language, just not Criminal Justice. She told me Criminal Justice majors are a dime a dozen.
I might make one in the future
Finished my Econ degree and pursuing an MBA in Financial Management right now.
THE BEST decision I have ever made in my life was stop listening to everyone saying get a CS or engineering degree (because I was barely getting by in these courses) and switch to Econ. It greatly helps me with the bills and it is a very interesting subject that I study continuously through the Internet which in turn helped me get skills and knowledge necessary to get hired.
you got an econ major degree. Okay. Can you sustain the demand if you increase the wages of everyone either by law or the market itself when inflation is rampant and does taxes affect your spending power after
@@trackingthecoreofstuffandm2310 whats econ
With every video uploaded, Shane’s beard is getting there!
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His beard is consuming the likes and watch time
History is actually a good major if you intend to go into law. Linguistics is also good if you pair it with CS and AI
Thanks for your input
You'd be surprised how true a lot of the things are that you cover, even outside the US. Your vids are valuable man. Currently doing my bachelors in social work. I want to go the clinical route and then specialize in high level trauma counselling. Here in NZ at mid career, that can land you an advisory role. We don't have interest on our student loans, in the US I'd be forced to go do something else. Godspeed to you all, no matter where you are in the world, we can do this.
Thanks for your input
So glad I found these videos while I'm still in high school
Nice.. So plan it well
Thanks! this is a good discussion about Liberal Arts.
Enjoy!
''some of you may be in class right now and supposed to be listening to the teacher''
I'VE BEEN CALLED OUT.
Most rich people have their children go for liberal arts. It just helps you all around becoming a more intelligent person and can articulate your words and understand the world and people to start a business or understand how to move up in a career
5:11 you would think right LOL. now there's a market on the rise oriented around breathwork/meditation. imagine getting a degree in breathing management technology in the next 5 years...
haha right David
I'm pretty happy with this as someone wanting to be a philosophy professor eventually. Hoping to go for my PhD in Philosophy to accomplish that as my final stage YAYYYYY job goal, lol. I first am currently about to get my B.A. in general elementary education, maybe the duel one and do special education too, then their M.A. for secondary English. All in all, nice, very surprised, ngl, might go back and get an economics degree eventually to work something part time, if possible, just to save up lots... who knows. Maybe i could manage that, if i have the desire to. Thanks for this though! I'm so happy i found WGU, it's making me so excited that i can go back anytime i want to get something else. Here's to hoping once done i can get into some LA college and get this PhD bois.
Good job on the video! I appreciate the respect shown towards the subject of philosophy.
All these sound fun and interesting ... if I were a trust fund baby, or a top tier athlete. For the rest of us it’s CS or Engineering or bust.
True
Not, it easy to find a job in education then in CS now days... so education degree is better. Only few get the cs of software enginering job now day, but anyone who ended the ed degree got a job. And that is the fact. And even few got a decent job with CS degree, so all talks about big money is a big lie, and that is the fact. Because anyone is going to CS today, the compatition is so high in this filed, you got alot alumani in this degree, that not muching the demand
@Ruslan Levin - There’s a finite number of education jobs and salaries are dependent on number of schools, municipalities, etc. There’s an infinite amount of tech projects. You need a software team to build these remote learning tools that educators use. Also, with CS, you can work any position on a dev team, and with some minor extra study, you can work on an infrastructure team or business team. Even if you don’t get in Google or Facebook, there’s plenty of work out there.
@@UnDark1 "there's an infinite amount of tech projects" What are you talking about?
@@jameshowlett2694 😒
As someone who has a bachelors in political science and a masters in economics, I would not recommend getting either one of these degrees. Finding a job is extremely difficult, near impossible (specially a gov job). If you are set on studying one of these, I would suggest on double majoring in stats or data science. That will most likely increase your chances of getting a job.
How about Economics bachelors and ISDS minor
I made 42 Thousand in One year as a uncertified welder and Robotics operator. I had to learn each station and rewrote the work method and station setup to make it way more efficient/ productive. After practice MIG welding during lunch break for mounths when everyone's at lunch . I required minimal training welding. I got a $2,000 bonus on top of the $1,000 bonus and made a TS of my line for my contributions to the Power line. It improved to 30%. But a week later my new position drug test failed for a smidge of marijuana, losing my $22.h job. I have no idea how I got to this point in my comment but it probably has nothing to do with the video. Let me start watching again and see if I have to erase this rambling.
I was Political Science and Geography, and then I got a JD. Graduated during a deep recession. Now I work in a chemical factory.
Liberal arts majors with exception of Economics can be good if you supplement them with income-producing skills. This could mean supplementing a minor or certificate in business, math, or technology-related courses. This can directly be added to your resume so you can appear more marketable. Also, graduate schools like law, MBA, Med school, etc can be another option. In this case, a liberal arts degree can be used as a stepping stone.
Also, internships, externships, fellowships, or any relevant work experience would be great. Additionally, DO NOT double down on 'useless' degrees. This will lead to more debt and prolonged underemployment or a long streak as a transient adjunct professor.
I really enjoy your channel, it’s nice that you just give straight facts. I’ve watched your other videos and I’ve decided to switch my major to computer science.
Solid choice Bosley.. Good luck!
A good rule of thumb: If it doesn't require *Calculus II,* it isn't worth it.
Doesn't catch all, but will filter out 85% of all the bad degrees.
Hmm that's a good one
I went the practical way and got my first degree in computer science. I made a decent living as a programmer for a few years, but I hated it so much that I went back to school and got a degree in English. I still work in IT out of necessity, but man do I wish I could do something else.
Thanks for sharing Al
I really like your content because it's a harsh reality which I'd like to know before actually opting for the subject.
Felt better when you said political science is in A tier! Still considering getting an MBA but at least my undergrad degree isn't "worthless".
Thanks for watching
Hey :) Do you think you might make a video on if studying a PPE (Philosophy, Politics & Economics) degree is worth it, for job opportunities? I noticed that all of those individual subjects were the highest on the liberal arts list. Do you think the combination is a good idea? …Btw I'm so thankful I found your channel, its been very helpful as I'll be applying to university for next year.
Shane, I don't know why I watch these videos as I graduated a long time ago and have a successful career lol but it's fun and compelling for some reason. I have a couple of possible insights. The first is that a friend of mine is a political science major and he tells me poly sci jobs are very low pay. However, he said that STATISTICIANS hired to conduct polling and analyze political data are in very high demand and are paid very well, so my thought is that for those committed to politics who also like analyzing data, a double major in poly sci and stats might be a viable option. That is mere speculation on my part. The second thing about that econ degree is that I think I know why it starts low and goes high. Econ in the business world is like high level theory but practical application in nothing. As any finance professor will tell you, finance is applied economics. Thus, econ majors are attractive because you need business intelligence to get that degree and they do understand at a high level how the business world works but then when an econ majors tries to get a specific job in something employers are like, uhh, well, we don't know how well or where you will fit. But after an econ major gets any kind of work exp., he is off to the races.
Thanks a lot for watching Mark and for leaving an insightful comment. Cheers!
I feel like education should be higher. True the pay isn't great (though an elite private school or another country it could be better) it does at least lead to a career in the field you studied. Teaching is difficult but if you can stick with it you are pretty much guaranteed a job for life.
*cries over my anthropology degree* I loved studying anthropology, but ended up moving to Japan after graduation and teaching English/managing a school. 🙈
@isabel z. it is at first but it’s not easy to advance in this profession, so hoping to change in the future
My boy Shane leaving no degrees untouched
haha just the truth
For economics, it should be said that economics major in the business department is the route, not in the liberal arts department
Thanks for watching
I graduated archaeology and get what you’re talking about. On top, with not at all connection makes it more torture. Oh I’m sad though that linguistic would not so good either. Thanks for this, appreciated.
Economics major here and I was glad to see it high up. Never get why its not a business related degree but oh well
Tbh I've been thinking of double majoring in neuroscience and languages + taking a lot of math and research classes for my "practical" skills. A lot of my decisions have been influenced by this channel and while it's still not the best options out there it's a middle combination of what I want and what all these videos advise
As long as you have a plan Jovana. You know what to do with it and you know what to expect. By all means, go for it. I wish you good luck. 😊
@@ShaneHummus tysm for both the response and for these videos!
You helped me so much in choosing my major. I'm very thankful to you! I hope this channel keeps growing !!✨✨
I'm so glad to hear that. Good luck!
Have you thought of doing a vid on minors, double majors, etc.
I might do that in the future
Philosophy is getting pretty good treatment, based on sticking with only bachelor’s degrees. However, as they outscore everyone on graduate entrance exams, I would give it an S for aspiring MDs, JDs, MBAs, etc.
Great video Shane! Could you make a video on supply chain management? Thanks for the great content
Great suggestion!
Shane hummus is the career and degree best TH-camr, but I was going say Shane hummus can u pls make a photographer career tier list
These days I’m more surprised when Starbucks spells my name correctly.
How do you not have a million subscribers already lol
Only 921,800 subs away from target 😂
I wish you could make a tier list in IT major or CS major like: game design, and web development. I know both of these programs are very in demand, but I'm curious which majors stand the most or vice versa.
Tech Degree Tier List (Best Technology Majors Ranked)
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Nice video, that covers a lot of majors / fields
Yes, thanks
You bring so much value Shane! Glad I am subbed
Thanks man!
Graduates with a degree in math nowadays are very highly sought-after. There are so many positions out there for analysts and data mining people. You can pretty much write your own paycheck. My degree is in electrical engineering, and I've never worked in the field because I graduated during the tech bubble burst when nobody was hiring. But I use the math from that degree to work in data analysis and it pays well.
Many people choose psychology to help understand their own issues. So the probability that they have issues that you don't want in an employee.
This was very helpful, thx!
So basically, you wanna conclude that my biggest mistake was to take humanities in high school because there were no jobs for us. Of course, your videos are informative but exhaustive as well for an art student. I really want something that can help me choose a major that can make money in the future even if I made a mistake in the past. can you please consider my request?
Can you do STEM master's and doctorate degrees next? Like applied physics or applied mathematics vs the engineering majors (electrical, aerospace, mechanical, civil, industrial, etc)? Also, maybe how much a master's or doctorate in engineering management, systems engineering (more on the management side), or an MBA for an engineer or scientist would be worth? Thanks for the great content!
Thanks for watching Oscar and for leaving a suggestion. Noted your request
I'm from Argentina and I went to an internationl high school in China so I could get a scholarship in an American college. It was such a disappointment to know that most of the opportunities were for Liberal Arts. Most of my classmates got to Liberal Arts. I didn't have to do that much research to know that is pretty much useless to have that diploma, so I went back to my country where you can have high level education in any field for free and get an actual diploma haha
Wow
@@ShaneHummus Yes! We actually do have the best university in Latin America (www.archyde.com/ranking-universities-the-uba-and-unam-the-best-in-latin-america-and-one-peruvian-in-position-15/) and it's 100% free! So we're very lucky to have the same opportunities no matter our financial situation
Good for you, enjoy the inflation 👍
Honestly if you're smart about planning out your career path you can be successful in most of S tier lib arts majors Shane mentioned
Agreed
Thanks for making these videos Shane!. Love it!!!
My pleasure!
I’m graduating with my associates in liberal arts & sciences in December, and then continuing on in a bachelors in either communications or general studies, cause you’re right, I (still) have no idea what I wanna do 🤷🏻♀️ thanks as always for the helpful info! -Kaylee
Good luck Ethan
Just do general studies.you can. Join the military as officer and one day and fine your calling.
Never heard of liberal arts and science before.
Shane out here looking good with a beard
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LACs also teach Physics, Mathematics, Biology and Chemistry. These were covered.
I still haven't seen any information on sociology 🙁 I know it isn't amazing but I know there's gotta be some good outcomes or pros to it
Same here! I am literally spamming Shane's comment box for doing a video in Sociology..haha!!
Stay tuned for that guys
From Economics to Communications to Psychology. So...what does Liberal Arts even mean?
Don't worry I might make an in depth video
What about Classics? I was considering majoring in Philosophy, but now a double major with Econ or minor in Philosophy sounds better. I would try Physics or even statistics, but I already have taken four courses in Philosophy to count towards the major.
I went back to college in my thirties because I wanted to pursue my lifelong passion. It was for Anthropology/archaeology. I'm in my final week before graduation and despite having graduated summa cum laude, I'm staring at an empty job market while my barely passed their courses business friends are having to turn jobs down. Pursue your passion is a useless piece of advice meant to set people up for failure. I'm now having to do massive goal restructuring to make something with my useless bachelor's degree in grad school and beyond. Sigh.
💀💀 my high school was big on passion and purpose…it only works when the career you choose is valuable
Hey man! Love all of your videos. Thanks for covering Liberal Arts.
My pleasure!
Ahh I gotta thank you Shane. First semester of college and I was already questioning sticking with mass comm. but you really got me to switch. A lot of this stuff I am learning just does not feel useful. Wish me luck in switching to econ lol.
You got this!
Thinking about doing the same. Was majoring in liberal studies in hopes of becoming a teacher but now I'm not so sure about teaching. And shoot later in the future i could teach economics 😋
I wish you had mentioned the job prospects for all of them. I wanted to know the job prospects for linguistics 🤔🤔🤔. Although I am going for a business degree, I am an incredible writer as well and quite curious about job prospects in linguistics? 🤔🤔🤔
I might cover that in the future. Stay tuned
It's going to be very difficult to get jobs in some of these fields with only a bachelor's degree. Take philosophy. Aside from the personal enrichment it might offer, philosophy is a field that one will never find a career in unless one goes to graduate school and gets a Ph.D. Much the same is true of many of the other majors discussed in this video. No one who works in these fields thinks, e.g., that someone with a bachelor's degree in philosophy is a philosopher, that someone with a bachelor's degree in anthropology is an anthropologist, etc., any more than, turning to the natural sciences, anyone thinks that someone with an undergraduate degree in physics is a physicist.
Hi Shane, I like your content. I love watching your videos.
Awesome, thank you!
What about Political Philosophy? I think you discussed Philosophy and Political Science, but nothing on this L.A. major. What do you think?
Urban planning I thought was good, something I had in mind since I look at maps and directions all the time
You should do a tier list on communication degrees
Which ones?
Public relations, marketing which is the degree I got. Journalism which is overrated. Etc... where would you put marketing on the tier list?
frame: a person applies to police force with a CJ degree, another person applies without any degree at all. One person has an associate degree in science. All three get the police job. Do you really think the person with no degree is on equal footing with the CJ degree officer? Barring very wild circumstances? At some point we have to say, that knowledge is power. And perhaps learning about the marginalized groups you will be working with in a non-cursory way will be beneifical to your job.
All three officers will make the same. But come on, really. Do you honestly think that people should avoid college to become Officers? That's like saying people should avoid Medical School to become doctors because "they can just learn it on their own from videos and textbooks"
We all know the one degree that’s going into S tier
Which one? lol
Economics obv
Advait Patil Surprisingly it was Gender Studies Engineering.
econ gang- currently getting masters in quantitative econ
Cheers!
Noice!!!!
Oof finally philosophy is my major as medical ethics and also how long was I gone you grew a beard 🧔
Fine I'm shavin it 😂